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07:18.14znfDoes it fuckin' look like I'm moving? http://i.imgur.com/btJWSHT.png
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07:32.30znfhttp://i.imgur.com/bigt9dh.png
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09:35.19Gnarfozznf: why are your fonts such a mess?
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09:56.50TorhalI believe that's called IDGAF Chic, Gnarfoz.
09:57.14Gnarfozis he known for NGAF?
09:57.55GnarfozIIRC, he GAF about even the weirdest tiny things, so I'm concerned! :D
09:58.54TorhalUsually esoteric technical matters of his own making, and How Shadowpriests Got Fucked Again™
10:04.03Gnarfozdefinitely fucked
10:04.12Gnarfozall day, every day
10:11.53znfGnarfoz: I have 2 fonts
10:12.43znfDefine mess
10:13.11znfOne pixel font
10:13.20znfAnd one that is the  same across the whole ui
10:13.46znfOh! Actually I think there's a 3rd for nameplates
10:14.05znfBut that's Kesava's fault
10:17.02Gnarfozmess: mixing ugly pixel fonts with others
10:17.03Gnarfoz:P
10:18.19nevcairielmore like using ugly pixel fonts in general
10:18.39Gnarfozthat's probably it ^^
10:22.39Gnarfozhttps://gchq.github.io/CyberChef/ :D
10:25.01Gnarfoz(GCHQ is probably logging all of that. somehow.)
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10:51.05nevcairielits rather funny how mmo-c quotes the bluepost where they expalin that some class buffs are hidden in passives, but then they don't actually post the changes to those passives .. had to go to wowhead to find those out. really lacking lately
10:51.25nebulafuckin Simca
10:56.51nevcairielalso no wonder this community is garbage, they cant even math
10:57.14nevcairielmastery scaling goes from 16% to 18%, everyone is screaming they got buffed by only 2%
10:57.16nevcairiell2math
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11:06.15VIadI remember a time where db.mmo-champion.com was a thing, and it contained also datamined and hidden data that wowhead usually hid from the users
11:06.23VIadwas fun to look around for fun. but no longer.
11:07.35nevcairielthat is http://www.wowdb.com/ now =p
11:07.52VIadbut it didnt look like it contained "hidden" data like before
11:12.24VIadnevcairiel: 7.1.5 coming out early january+
11:13.02nebulawonder if they'll just combine it with unlocking nighthold
11:14.39VIadwell they said it would be a patch before 7.2 and that nighthold was coming out like mid/end january, but at this pace it seems like it will be bundled :P
11:20.48nevcairiel7.2 is not nighthold
11:20.52nevcairielso your statements make no sense
11:21.45nevcairiel7.1.5 will likely be two weeks or so before nighthold unlock to give people time to adjust and them to iron out any issues
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11:29.12_Keewasn't we doing quest right near Nighthold entrance this week? I bet we're close.
11:29.40_KeeI suspect about 1.5 month to open Nighthold live.
11:30.31nevcairielthe previously announced timeframe was mid to end of january, personally i think its more like end of jan to early feb at this point
11:30.55nevcairiel(which is fine with me since i'm on vacation in january and would hate to miss the opening week :P)
11:41.55nevcairiel(and for the quest, there is two more steps af ter this week)
12:21.00VIadsorry nevcairiel, I forgot 7.2 was tier3 raiding
12:21.24VIadbut okay, it means I get to gather 30 more boxes so I can open 60 boxes in 7.1.5 :d
12:29.17Gnarfozwhat's in the bawwwks
12:30.44Gnarfozalso, our parent company apparently just made a deal with the devil
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12:31.57VIadwhat did activison do?
12:32.18GnarfozActivision Blizzard is a customer of ours, not our parent :D
12:32.48VIadthought activision was the parent of blizzard, not that I really care
12:37.07Gnarfozthat'd make sense if I worked at Blizzard :D
12:38.48Gnarfoz(and Activision Blizzard is Blizzard Entertainment's parent, not Activision, which is also a subsidiary of Activision Blizzard; corporate structure ssuck)
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12:51.15GnarfozSimca: is wowdb missing this http://www.wowdb.com/objects/175775 http://www.wowhead.com/object=175775/ferren-marcus because it was removed (probably when SM was split up) before wowdb was tracking stuff like that? and/or was wowdb never fed old version info?
12:51.39Gnarfoza) I forgot to press enter. b) in the meantime, I found http://www.wowdb.com/objects/210488-ferren-marcus :)
12:55.16Gnarfoz(and why are comments made on the live site today marked as made during Patch 7.1.5?)
12:56.04GnarfozHm, the object is missing the inscription text. Did Wowhead add that manually?
12:58.39Simcawowdb doesn't have gameobject data from before it was launched; not possible since it relies on user uploads for that via their cache
12:59.03Simcanot sure why comments are dated as wrong patch #, can ask about that
12:59.26Simcawe have the text data (from addon .lua file uploads) but for some reason don't display it
13:01.58Gnarfozah. I wasn't quite sure when wowdb went operational (or if db.mmo-c days count as opertional, or sigrie days or whatever)
13:02.58Simcabeginning of MoP I think. db.mmo-c was beginning of cata, but it didn't rely on user uploads, so it had no gameobject data
13:03.22Gnarfozit's part of stuff that's only server side? I see
13:03.42Gnarfoz(so it'd be missing on something like a sandbox?)
13:04.03Simcayeah, only way client gets exposed to it is through the server
13:04.28Simcayeah they'd be missing on a sandbox
13:06.48Gnarfozin a similar vein, then, out of curiosity: was wowdb ever fed with whatever data is available from just client files from old versions before it was launched?
13:07.17Gnarfoz(i.e. 0.5.3 up to whatever was live when wowdb went live, 5.0-ish, then)
13:08.18Gnarfozversioned information (if it exists) doesn't seem to exposed anyway, so I guess the question is moot
13:11.57Simcaiirc: somewhat, but not as far back as 0.5.3, just backwards a bit into cata
13:12.40Alrami have all the major versions since 0.5.3 but cba finishing my db site
13:12.50Alrammostly because too many damn structure/format changes
13:12.56Simcayeah, that is the huge hurdle
13:13.09Simcaand why wowhead didn't back-import from before their launch either
13:13.15Simca(1.12)
13:14.29Alramalso my database dies with only a handful of builds imported so i should probably sit down to do some proper database design
13:15.00Gnarfoz(of course I was thinking of Alram when I wrote that question <3)
13:15.04Alramim sure
13:15.20Gnarfozstill seeding that torrent ;)
13:15.25Alram:D
13:15.39Gnarfozwas it actually complete? I don't recall if there were gaps or stuff you were still missing
13:15.42Simcai'm pretty proud of my db reader now, it supports any format from 0.5.3 to 7.1.5 in theory
13:15.53Alramexcept those that dont have id fields Simca
13:15.58Alramstruct wise
13:16.02Alramand no Gnarfoz it was not :(
13:16.10Simca?
13:16.12Alramim not sure which were missing because i can no longer remove to home
13:16.21Alramremote*
13:16.46Alrami'll check when im home Simca
13:17.09Simcai could work around lack of an ID field probably
13:17.25Simcamy code technically requires it right now, but it doesn't care if you lie about it
13:17.43Alrami guess pebkac in that case then
13:18.01Gnarfoz<PROTECTED>
13:18.03Simcamaybe not
13:18.19Simcai haven't put a ton of effort into testing
13:18.32Alramlmk if you need some test dbcs!
13:18.35Simcai just load every db2 since 7.0.3 build 21691 and call it done
13:18.51Simca(the build before layoutHash)
13:19.27GnarfozI wish I was more into that than vaguely knowing what you're talking about from random IRC and Twitter snippets, but there's only so much time in a day :D
13:20.29Alramif only i finished my download functionality
13:21.09Alramhttp://marlamin.com/wowdiff/cache/a8/19/a8195df0ed0315861f56384779fd4283 this is 0.5.3.3368 areatable
13:21.13Gnarfoz"if only I finished X" -- everyone, ever
13:21.19Alramyeah :(
13:21.51Alramdont go to /wowdiff/ pls unless you like causing mysql to have an aneurysm
13:25.38Phixionshouldnt have said that
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13:25.48karl_w_whttps://i.redd.it/p96q24c4g92y.jpg
13:25.55Alramthere is mostly nice people here Phixion it'll be ok
13:26.02Phixionnods
13:26.06Alramyou being the exception ofc
13:26.06Alram<3
13:26.11Phixionw o w
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13:26.33Alrami think i just had it cache things
13:26.37Alrammight be doable now!
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