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| 02:27.59 | WrathTECH | Does anybody know how to block or disable the script/function that shows the main action bar background borders when you pick up a spell icon? I'm trying to show a border permanently but picking up an icon resets it and deletes it.. plus shows the image UI-QuckSlot2 which makes things worse. |
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| 03:55.36 | ScratchMonkey | lua isn't my native language :P What does the L and bracket mean in a string constant? like p = L['foo'] |
| 03:56.49 | Simca | so, in that example, it would look up the key "foo" in the table called L |
| 03:57.11 | Simca | and p would be set equal to that |
| 03:57.12 | ScratchMonkey | aha, ty |
| 03:57.26 | ScratchMonkey | so typically for localization |
| 03:58.00 | mckenziemc | L is just a convention for naming a localization table |
| 03:58.14 | mckenziemc | for WoW addons at least, idk if it's broader than that |
| 03:58.17 | Simca | if you're getting a bunch of errors in localization files, it is a known issue with CurseForge's new packager |
| 03:58.31 | Simca | I think they will fix it when they get back from holidays tomorrow |
| 03:58.35 | Simca | (i hope anyway) |
| 03:58.55 | ScratchMonkey | I'm writing a new plugin for adibags based on an existing one, and forgot what that idiom does. Now I see it's a localization idiom. |
| 03:59.02 | Simca | ah, yeah |
| 03:59.26 | sylvanaar | Noshei: want to try the lastest alpha of Prat? |
| 03:59.53 | Simca | like you said, it's an idiom mainly, just used because it is a short variable name (1 letter) |
| 04:00.08 | sylvanaar | fewyn: if you have time also |
| 04:00.21 | Simca | if you have thousands of localization strings, typing out Localization every time you wanted to reference the table would be awfulu |
| 04:00.24 | Simca | awful* |
| 04:01.21 | mckenziemc | should call it x |
| 04:02.39 | Noshei | sylvanaar: sure |
| 04:06.03 | Noshei | sylvanaar: no initial errors when I login, but I get this when I do /prat or go to most of the prat options in the interface panel |
| 04:06.03 | Noshei | http://pastebin.com/t7Ef4Z8H |
| 04:06.28 | sylvanaar | Thats a new one |
| 04:06.36 | ScratchMonkey | In C/C++ it's common to use the _T() idiom around a string to do something similar. The toolchain has stuff to deal with that macro and look up localization strings. |
| 04:07.17 | ScratchMonkey | I'm extending adibags to know about artifact power so it will land in a different section of the virtual bag. |
| 04:08.47 | sylvanaar | You have the debug module enabled Noshei |
| 04:11.03 | Noshei | i dont know |
| 04:15.37 | tz | _T() is to preferentially convert to wchar_t, not to provide localisation |
| 04:15.58 | tz | and it's useful only for character literals, not that localisation is any different here though |
| 04:43.31 | sylvanaar | Noshei: There is another build cooking, if you feel like helping some more |
| 04:44.02 | Noshei | ok, ill grad it as soon as i see it |
| 04:44.52 | sylvanaar | Wait for the file to say 1.39 MB before downloading - that |
| 04:45.07 | sylvanaar | is the only way to know the localizations are done |
| 04:48.10 | sylvanaar | Noshei: here's the link https://www.wowace.com/projects/prat-3-0/files/2350137 |
| 04:48.10 | Stanzilla | that system is so stupid, it hurts |
| 04:48.33 | sylvanaar | Localization? |
| 04:48.35 | Noshei | not sure if this is expected or not, but I got an error when I clicked [Reload] in chat after setting a prat module to don't load |
| 04:48.54 | sylvanaar | havent treied Noshei |
| 04:50.02 | Noshei | well heres the error if you want it: http://pastebin.com/syuV3Xnr I doubt its a new error though |
| 04:50.05 | sylvanaar | Reload is protected |
| 04:50.11 | Stanzilla | ¯_(ã)_/¯ |
| 04:50.17 | sylvanaar | What else is newq |
| 04:50.23 | sylvanaar | You interacted |
| 04:50.29 | Noshei | i did |
| 04:50.29 | sylvanaar | You clicked |
| 04:50.35 | Noshei | yup |
| 04:51.40 | Noshei | everything seems to be working just fine |
| 04:52.45 | Noshei | gonna try different language real fast though |
| 04:55.48 | Noshei | sylvanaar: what should be localized in prat and is Espanol (EU) a supported language? |
| 04:57.35 | Noshei | the only settings that I'm seeing get localized is the Profiles settings. All other settings remained in english |
| 05:00.03 | sylvanaar | Prat supports all localizations |
| 05:00.34 | sylvanaar | Noshei: I think german is one of the more complete ones |
| 05:00.52 | Noshei | well I went with spanish |
| 05:01.01 | Noshei | so that should be simpler |
| 05:02.11 | Noshei | no errors, just not everything seemed to be localized. Not sure if that is due to lack of translations or an error. |
| 05:07.27 | sylvanaar | Probably a lack of translations |
| 05:08.20 | sylvanaar | Noshei: you localize in EsEs for EU spanish |
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| 08:57.43 | VIad | znf: hotix inc, soon it gives 21 strenght :p |
| 08:57.55 | VIad | or even 2 strenght, dunno itemization at level 70 |
| 09:00.05 | znf | 7 |
| 09:00.06 | znf | :P |
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| 09:19.59 | VIad | we got illgynoth to 3% yesterday, last raid we were wiping on the first phase :p |
| 09:20.22 | VIad | got to p3 several times, just had to work on the cleanup |
| 09:21.42 | znf | mythic? |
| 09:21.49 | znf | wait, there's a p3? |
| 09:22.32 | Shockah|Work | think he means second p1 |
| 09:23.07 | VIad | yes |
| 09:23.28 | VIad | the last phase 1 sounds weird to say :p |
| 09:24.06 | VIad | yeah doing mythic progress |
| 09:24.18 | VIad | expecting to be drake tanking once we get to cenarius |
| 09:24.25 | VIad | just offtanking dragons all fight :p |
| 09:24.59 | VIad | or we get our 3rd tank in to do it, if we got to swap on spears, or maybe a druid with bear affinity will do the taunt bit when needed, and keep dpsing otherwise |
| 09:25.33 | VIad | we can't do illgynoth without a shaman btw, we need their totem to even out health |
| 09:25.37 | VIad | when we aoe blobs :p |
| 09:25.53 | Shockah|Work | wonder if there are any EU Ghostlands/Dragonblight guilds looking to fill their mythic EN slots |
| 09:25.55 | VIad | saves a lot of time at pull, and when going in p3 |
| 09:26.08 | Shockah|Work | don't think my guild will ever bother |
| 09:29.08 | VIad | it is fun though |
| 09:29.13 | VIad | working as team and improving |
| 09:29.22 | VIad | what else is there to do? :p |
| 09:29.25 | VIad | m+ spam? |
| 09:29.30 | Shockah|Work | sure, but they don't care enough to even try mythic |
| 09:29.44 | VIad | TOV is overtuned so we cba to push that with EN still not cleared |
| 09:30.12 | VIad | I was lucky with this guild, they seem to want a bit of challenge |
| 09:30.13 | Shockah|Work | we got Xavius H down last week, but... that's it |
| 09:31.34 | VIad | he has been farm material for a while now |
| 09:32.08 | VIad | on normal we dont even mechanics anymore, we cleared normal on some alts and such, for some AP and maybe titanx3 procs |
| 09:32.08 | Shockah|Work | well, it's still curve :P |
| 09:32.33 | VIad | nice thing about normal is you can have tank on one end of boss, all melee dps on the other, and tank can just not move all p1 :p |
| 09:32.51 | VIad | can even tank the add at the same time, ez |
| 09:33.16 | VIad | in lfr you cant even get corruption |
| 09:33.25 | VIad | I wonder if you can techically wipe to getting MC in lfr :p |
| 09:36.28 | VIad | I remember trying for the life of me but struggling to get it high |
| 09:44.03 | VIad | Shockah|Work: you can join my guild on darksorrow/genjuro/neptulon :d |
| 09:44.21 | Shockah|Work | i don't really want to realm change |
| 09:44.33 | VIad | I didn't want either |
| 09:44.43 | VIad | but I found nice players while pugging, so I had to :/ |
| 09:44.51 | VIad | 80% swedes |
| 09:44.59 | Shockah|Work | i just want to find another group that would actually do mythic content, but still do the rest with my old guild |
| 09:45.07 | VIad | its hard |
| 09:45.23 | Shockah|Work | if mythic difficulty was cross-realm - sure :P |
| 09:45.39 | VIad | like, I started doing m+ with the guild I pugged with and they wanted me in their guild for mythic raiding since its locked behind realm |
| 09:46.03 | VIad | they had some bad luck with tanks and since I play tank they wanted me in :p |
| 09:46.34 | VIad | I thought tanks are like hardest to find guilds since you only need a handful |
| 09:49.22 | Shockah|Work | doesn't help i'm a hunter |
| 09:49.30 | Shockah|Work | sure, i'd heal... if you give me a hunter healing spec |
| 09:49.34 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 09:51.47 | VIad | :p |
| 09:51.51 | VIad | dps are a bit easier |
| 09:51.58 | VIad | you need many for raids |
| 09:52.16 | VIad | usually more movement there, can get a chance to raid and prove yourself |
| 09:57.05 | Shockah|Work | > hunter |
| 09:57.17 | Shockah|Work | doubt many guilds need this kind of dps |
| 09:57.38 | Shockah|Work | sure, i don't care about movement requirements, since i don't have any casts lol |
| 09:57.42 | Shockah|Work | but still |
| 09:58.08 | Shockah|Work | also reminds me i should try to stop using pet's Dash ability on auto-use |
| 09:58.13 | Shockah|Work | and instead cast it manually when needed |
| 09:58.53 | VIad | you are MM? |
| 09:58.58 | VIad | BM* |
| 09:59.08 | Shockah|Work | yeah i'm BM |
| 09:59.12 | Shockah|Work | outdpsing our MM hunter |
| 09:59.24 | VIad | only tip I have is setup like macros for easy combatres/bloodlust :p |
| 09:59.47 | Shockah|Work | i have my pets on an OPie ring |
| 09:59.50 | VIad | like regardless what pet you have out or not, that you can push one button to get the right pet out and cast the spell on a target |
| 10:00.09 | VIad | if you need to manually click dismiss, then call, thenclick the spell, its too slow in many cases |
| 10:00.20 | VIad | you often want a CR up asap, especially in m+ dungeons |
| 10:00.29 | Shockah|Work | don't think you can instantly call pet AND use its ability, can you |
| 10:00.45 | VIad | you can make the macro so you can at least "spam" it to make it cast the spells in sequence |
| 10:00.46 | Shockah|Work | and dismiss pet is literally the only ability i have to cast in place |
| 10:01.01 | VIad | like start with /use [pet] Dismiss Pet |
| 10:01.15 | VIad | or like add checks pet:Quillen |
| 10:01.17 | VIad | or whatever ;d |
| 10:01.33 | Shockah|Work | i'm not a fan of /castsequence, because i tend to spam my keys a lot |
| 10:01.43 | VIad | nono |
| 10:01.55 | VIad | you can add /use cases that fail silently when conditions arent met |
| 10:01.58 | VIad | you dont need to use a sequence |
| 10:04.05 | Shockah|Work | i guess i'll look into it when i decide to redo my UI again |
| 10:04.32 | Shockah|Work | i didn't do that in a while, so it probably won't be long until that happens |
| 10:04.35 | karl_w_w | https://i.imgur.com/NeniMdS.jpg |
| 10:04.46 | Shockah|Work | ...spiders? |
| 10:05.12 | VIad | yes, it's spiders. |
| 10:05.16 | Shockah|Work | is that between 2 pieces of glass or what |
| 10:05.25 | VIad | no just hanging from the powerlines/trees |
| 10:05.47 | Shockah|Work | ...either these are enormous or i can't figure out their size |
| 10:06.45 | karl_w_w | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_silk_orb-weaver |
| 10:07.32 | VIad | one more reason I will never live in australia |
| 10:07.37 | Shockah|Work | welp |
| 10:07.39 | Shockah|Work | agreed |
| 10:07.39 | VIad | or any warm country for that mater, I hate insects |
| 10:07.45 | Shockah|Work | agreed again |
| 10:08.04 | VIad | flying everywhere shitting eggs and making babies in your walls, thats warm climate for you |
| 10:08.11 | VIad | rather have my cold concrete walls |
| 10:08.23 | Shockah|Work | on the other hand snow sucks too |
| 10:08.43 | VIad | can live like mid way to the equator :p |
| 10:08.47 | VIad | not too warm, not too cold |
| 10:08.50 | znf | VIad, best place ever |
| 10:09.00 | znf | I would like to live somewhere where there's only 2 seasons |
| 10:09.05 | znf | spring and autumn |
| 10:09.13 | Shockah|Work | yes |
| 10:09.14 | FireSiku | That would be great. |
| 10:09.17 | znf | we could throw in 2 weeks of summer, if you insist |
| 10:09.17 | Shockah|Work | that |
| 10:09.34 | znf | and 0 of winter |
| 10:09.40 | znf | because fuck that monstery white crap |
| 10:10.44 | karl_w_w | lunatics |
| 10:11.03 | karl_w_w | 50/40/10 split of autumn winter spring |
| 10:11.19 | karl_w_w | summer can go die in a fire of its own creation |
| 10:11.23 | VIad | Shockah|Work: I meant a macro like this one: |
| 10:11.23 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:11.23 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:11.23 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:11.46 | VIad | I split it up in lines for a more logical view :p |
| 10:12.03 | VIad | point is the dismiss has a criteria that will fail in one circumstance, making it defer to the next line, then last line |
| 10:12.48 | VIad | thats just a scribble, havent tested it :p |
| 10:13.05 | VIad | but you can make similar macros for your core hound |
| 10:13.06 | Shockah|Work | yeah sure, but i still need to redo my UI and find a keybind for it |
| 10:13.17 | VIad | redo your UI might be a bit of a stretch |
| 10:13.19 | Shockah|Work | and tbh i have 6 keybinds i should start using but can't be bothered, because UI |
| 10:13.24 | Shockah|Work | and lazy |
| 10:13.37 | Shockah|Work | got a new keyboard with L1-L6 keys on the left side of it |
| 10:13.41 | VIad | if you want to get into mythic raiding guilds you have to work on your toolkit |
| 10:13.46 | Shockah|Work | so might be worth finally putting them to use |
| 10:14.01 | VIad | its important to be a flexible person, it will show and people will want to get you in groups :p |
| 10:14.20 | znf | <Shockah|Work> got a new keyboard with L1-L6 keys on the left side of it |
| 10:14.21 | VIad | like if you have a healer druid that only heals in your m+ runs, you won't bring him for your >m+10 runs |
| 10:14.23 | znf | extra keys on the left side? |
| 10:14.25 | znf | burn the witch. |
| 10:14.41 | VIad | I have some extra keys on the side I never use :p |
| 10:14.48 | VIad | keyboard hardware macro things |
| 10:15.00 | znf | if my keyboard had extra keys on the left side, I'd throw it in the fire |
| 10:15.13 | VIad | it's a good way for me to realign my hand when I slip |
| 10:15.17 | Shockah|Work | i didn't get the keyboard specifically for the keys |
| 10:15.25 | znf | I had one of those once |
| 10:15.29 | znf | lasted 2 hours with it |
| 10:15.51 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 10:15.53 | znf | whoever designs such crap is literally satan |
| 10:16.03 | Shockah|Work | i tend to just ignore these keys |
| 10:16.14 | Shockah|Work | not sure why you'd have any problems with them |
| 10:16.24 | znf | the left-most keys must be esc/tab/shift/ctrl |
| 10:16.33 | znf | if there's anything else there, the designer fucked up |
| 10:16.59 | znf | http://images.anandtech.com/doci/8614/SSAPEX_04.JPG literally satan |
| 10:17.00 | Shockah|Work | they're far enough to not be a pain when trying to hit Esc/Tab/Shfit/Ctrl/Tilde |
| 10:17.14 | Shockah|Work | god the M1-12 keys |
| 10:17.18 | Shockah|Work | THAT'S satan |
| 10:18.33 | Shockah|Work | https://en-b2b.megabajt.com.pl/gfx-base/files/TRA/KLA/43931/hire_43931.jpg |
| 10:18.35 | VIad | keys are too flat for my taste |
| 10:18.40 | VIad | I prefer the old school keys :p |
| 10:18.41 | znf | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/n148tvpI/20161128_121744_HDR.jpg |
| 10:18.42 | znf | my hand needs to rest like this ^ |
| 10:18.43 | Shockah|Work | that's mine |
| 10:18.51 | znf | Shockah|Work, yup, satan's work |
| 10:19.00 | VIad | znf thats a horrible keyboard |
| 10:19.03 | VIad | thin keys :( |
| 10:19.04 | Shockah|Work | i literally got it because it was the only one that had a cable and multimedia keys |
| 10:19.10 | znf | VIad, I like my chiclet keys :) |
| 10:19.19 | VIad | I miss multimedia keys |
| 10:19.26 | VIad | I got to use FN+F1 key combosfor it now |
| 10:19.30 | VIad | a bit slower |
| 10:19.38 | znf | I really don't use them |
| 10:19.48 | Shockah|Work | i'm pretty much always playing music in background |
| 10:19.48 | VIad | handy for quick mute unmute volume updown |
| 10:19.59 | znf | ah, yeah |
| 10:20.03 | znf | that's pretty much the only ones I need |
| 10:20.08 | Shockah|Work | well i'm mostly using it for pause / next |
| 10:20.08 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 10:20.31 | znf | mine's http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71SigQtc50L._SL1500_.jpg |
| 10:20.46 | Shockah|Work | thin keys :C |
| 10:20.54 | znf | yup, I like them slim |
| 10:21.21 | Shockah|Work | also the key layout... |
| 10:21.41 | Shockah|Work | what the hell is going on above the arrows |
| 10:22.12 | znf | you get used to that pretty fast :P |
| 10:22.24 | znf | it's laptop-ish |
| 10:22.34 | znf | I used laptops for a long time, like 6-7 years, exclusively |
| 10:22.44 | znf | so I needed/wanted a keyboard that is chiclet-style like laptops |
| 10:22.50 | znf | and not too wide |
| 10:22.56 | Shockah|Work | i'm only using my laptop when needed |
| 10:23.10 | znf | so do I now :P |
| 10:23.11 | Shockah|Work | as in, when i'm taking it to college etc |
| 10:23.17 | znf | but there was a time I was always on the move |
| 10:23.32 | znf | moving a desktop every few months was a pain |
| 10:23.36 | znf | so I just stuck with the work laptop |
| 10:23.43 | znf | Shipping: $63.15 USPS Priority Mail International | See details |
| 10:23.47 | znf | oh come the fuck on, ebay |
| 10:23.49 | znf | wtf is wrong with you |
| 10:24.26 | znf | $18 for the keyboard, $60 for the shipping :-| |
| 10:24.39 | znf | my keyboard is damn hard to find in Romania |
| 10:24.47 | znf | last time I scoured all the online shops when my previous one just died |
| 10:24.54 | znf | and the previous one I had to ask friends to buy it from belgium |
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| 10:56.21 | Kinesia | I wanted to buy my kid a christmas present, but it's only from the us and even with $50 shipping it wont get here before christmas, totally useless |
| 10:58.09 | Kinesia | international shopping is a great idea, but shipping really needs an overhaul (For a lot of different reasons, not all related0 |
| 10:58.30 | mitch0 | or, just order your overseas presents well before time? |
| 10:59.02 | nevcairiel | i typically get like 7 day shipping from the US at worst |
| 10:59.12 | Kinesia | grin. it's a good idea, but not always practical... there a lot of things you can reasonably expect to have local distributors though |
| 10:59.13 | nevcairiel | say a month shipping would be from china =p |
| 10:59.38 | Kinesia | I get ebay from china within a week, US is a month |
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| 11:27.10 | VIad | I once got a shipment sent by boat from the states, like 3 months time :d |
| 11:27.35 | VIad | was some water damage on the outer box, but it was fine, was like wrapped in plastic inside many times over |
| 12:29.47 | VIad | sylvanaar: that was an amazing fix for the locale issue in prat :D |
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| 14:29.54 | sylvanaar | Vlad I am sure there are tons of poeple on here that could do it |
| 14:30.16 | sylvanaar | s/do/done/ |
| 14:34.41 | VIad | it was difficult to link corpse loot and rolls together, so I had to generate a table for lookup and make like a "guid" for loot on corpses based on sourceGUID+itemLink to avoid duplicates |
| 14:35.10 | VIad | but it worked quite well. with ML enabled I could click a corpse and there would be group loot popups for everyone, then when results were in (or timeout) the item was handed out to highest roller |
| 14:35.19 | VIad | overall I'd say it was a success. |
| 14:42.52 | Infus | TheDanW: can you forward this to someone that can take a look at it? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54859 |
| 14:46.50 | Infus | I'm assumimg that's not for the ui team |
| 14:48.05 | foxlit | Infus: have you accidentially discovered why people don't store entire addons in their savedvariables directory? :) |
| 14:50.26 | Simca | happens with smaller addons too |
| 14:51.09 | Simca | I have lost vuhdo settings after a BSOD three times out of about 40 BSODs |
| 14:51.33 | nevcairiel | i basically throw my PC away and build a new one on one bsod, how do you not kill yourself |
| 14:52.35 | Kalroth | BSOD = excuse to buy new hardware |
| 14:52.37 | Simca | this was over the course of maybe 5 years |
| 14:52.43 | VIad | bsod can be driver fault too |
| 14:52.48 | Simca | these weren't |
| 14:52.54 | Kalroth | doesn't matter, need new hardware |
| 14:52.56 | Simca | i lost the silicon lottery |
| 14:53.09 | VIad | but on the infus subject, I agree it's odd the game would writefile so many times :P |
| 14:53.17 | Simca | system would stay stable pretty long if i underclocked one of the cores |
| 14:53.23 | VIad | shouldn't the game just do one writefile operation at the appropriate moments anyway? |
| 14:53.35 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.49 | nevcairiel | writes are buffered anyway, one or 4000 calls makes no big difference to your chances of data loss =p |
| 14:55.47 | Infus | the longer it takes the higher the chances though, and 4000 calls do take longer than one call |
| 14:55.52 | VIad | thought infus was making a post about too many write calls to the drive, that it took too much performance than needed |
| 14:56.23 | nevcairiel | if you have to plan for your system to BSOD while you close wow, you lost already anyway |
| 14:56.39 | nevcairiel | i dont remember a single case of my settings going boom |
| 14:57.04 | VIad | I have had one experience with a HD issue |
| 14:57.08 | VIad | winxp mind you :p |
| 14:57.22 | foxlit | write to something else+move would be better anyway, and should be relatively cheap. |
| 14:57.26 | VIad | lost a lot of settings. and one time I lost like all day worth of coding on an addon, the file became null filled. :( |
| 14:57.47 | nevcairiel | foxlit: they should just fix the damn backup system to actually write new bak files everytime, not just the first time |
| 14:57.49 | Infus | we get frequent reports of people that loose all their existing settings due to wow crashing |
| 14:58.18 | VIad | Infus: thats because when you login to the game and discover the issue, you logout and overwrite the .bak with the corrupt/empty files :P |
| 14:58.32 | VIad | because you need to know in advance that your files are wrong and manually restore the .bak :D |
| 14:58.36 | nevcairiel | nah the bak system doesnt work anyway |
| 14:58.41 | VIad | doesnt it? |
| 14:58.53 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:58.55 | VIad | thought it keeps the last .lua file as a .bak until next time it writes to the drive at /logout/reload/exit |
| 14:59.03 | nevcairiel | it only creates the bak file when it doesnt exist |
| 14:59.07 | VIad | wtf |
| 14:59.10 | nevcairiel | if it does exist, its never refreshed |
| 14:59.18 | VIad | well thats totally retarded |
| 14:59.38 | VIad | tbh I havent had issues like this since I started to do cron backup jobs :p |
| 15:00.00 | VIad | if a issue arises I have a copy of my files in a 7z for me to restore, got tired of struggling with lack of versioning |
| 15:02.20 | VIad | maybe addon engine rewrite for 8.0? |
| 15:02.31 | VIad | like I see the game writing to wrong places sometimes :p |
| 15:02.47 | VIad | my wtf\account\savedvariables makes no sense |
| 15:03.17 | VIad | think it does that by itself, something is weird |
| 15:03.38 | mckenziemc | overwrites Viad. |
| 15:15.41 | Simca | yeah it's been broken for many years |
| 15:15.55 | Simca | to their credit, they did make it a little better |
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| 15:16.22 | Simca | it used to create even more empty folders with no purpose, like ones called '(null)' |
| 15:17.10 | Simca | they cut down drastically on the bugged folders in Legion (or maybe WoD, I forget) |
| 15:17.23 | Simca | but i guess they gave up after a while or something |
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| 16:23.59 | karl_w_w | couple of days left if you bought a 970 in the US https://www.gtx970settlement.com/Home.aspx |
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| 16:36.12 | VIad | Simca: did you ever release your bnet trimmer program? |
| 16:36.58 | Simca | nah, legion took a lot of my free time away actually playing the game again |
| 16:37.25 | Simca | plan to finish it over the holidays, who knows, might even happen, i should certainly have the time |
| 16:37.58 | Fisker | But then agdq |
| 16:49.44 | mckenziemc | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Opiliones_20100626.jpg not spiders |
| 16:52.20 | Trela | Spiders. |
| 16:53.43 | mckenziemc | arachnids* |
| 16:55.11 | mckenziemc | specifically harvestmen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opiliones |
| 16:57.20 | mckenziemc | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pseudo-ara%C3%B1a_nocturna_(opilion).jpg o.o |
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| 17:28.44 | TheDanW | Gnarfoz: i figured, i might be able to put in a new event for 7.2, but no promises |
| 17:29.05 | TheDanW | foxlit: i fixed the ClearClampedTextureRotation call for 7.2 |
| 17:29.55 | TheDanW | Infus: best work-around for clipping would probably to see if clipChildren exhibits similar behavior, if not use that instead |
| 17:30.05 | nevcairiel | foxlit: you own him a salami now |
| 17:30.07 | nevcairiel | owe* |
| 17:30.26 | Infus | TheDanW: can't really modify that, it's in a library |
| 17:31.13 | Semlar | you can see if it works |
| 17:31.21 | TheDanW | probably have to wait for 7.2 then |
| 17:31.29 | Fisker | I wanted a salami |
| 17:32.20 | TheDanW | the WriteFile thing, i don't think it was ever expected to write that much data into savedvars |
| 17:33.05 | Infus | well, I don't want to know how much auctioneer saves |
| 17:33.07 | TheDanW | it uses unbuffered writes for simplicity, i'll add it to the list to take a look at |
| 17:33.18 | Gnarfoz | WeakAuras isn't even the worst offender, TSM and other auction addons are probably way worse |
| 17:33.58 | Infus | TheDanW: and the broken .bak file saving? did that make your list too? |
| 17:34.10 | TheDanW | haven't read that |
| 17:34.52 | Infus | last coment on that, or read a few lines see just below my ping today |
| 17:35.05 | Semlar | do you want it saving a backup every time it writes to the sv file? |
| 17:35.28 | Infus | well, I don't know what it should do, but currently it just doesn't do anything |
| 17:35.36 | nevcairiel | TheDanW: the jist of it is that it only writes a .bak file when it doesnt exist yet, if it exists it never gets replaced with any newer data |
| 17:36.02 | nevcairiel | so after the first run of the client you get a bak file, and then for years and years nothing :D |
| 17:37.32 | Semlar | hard to say what the best way to do it would be without overwriting it before the user can take advantage of a backup |
| 17:39.16 | TheDanW | hrm, not sure what changed |
| 17:39.23 | nevcairiel | (that never worked) |
| 17:39.43 | TheDanW | its never worked? |
| 17:39.49 | Semlar | yeah the .bak behavior hasn't changed ever as far as i know |
| 17:39.54 | nevcairiel | as long as I remember, it worked like it does now |
| 17:39.55 | Semlar | that's just what it does |
| 17:40.11 | nevcairiel | it just doesnt work very well |
| 17:42.37 | TheDanW | it looks like the intent of the code was to overwrite the .bak with the existing .lua, but yeah, it's never worked from what i can tell |
| 17:45.30 | Ressy | ouch |
| 17:47.44 | Semlar | "I'm looking for an addon that will automatically report my party's dps chart to my instance group after every boss fight." |
| 17:47.59 | nevcairiel | tell him: "No." |
| 17:48.06 | Semlar | :D |
| 17:48.19 | Semlar | http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20752167460 |
| 17:51.18 | Semlar | TheDanW: is there any way to check whether a spell is a ground-targeted reticle type deal in-game |
| 17:51.39 | Semlar | i couldn't find one |
| 17:52.30 | TheDanW | i don't believe there is |
| 17:53.04 | Semlar | i wanted to create an addon that replaced your ground-targeted spells with temporary @cursor macros automatically |
| 17:54.14 | TheDanW | it's more complicated than just a flag that says its ground targettable, it can be modified by the state of your character or even the world |
| 17:54.45 | karl_w_w | why are there displayport splitters, and displayport to hdmi splitters, but no DP to DP + HDMI? |
| 17:55.44 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 17:55.52 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 17:56.07 | Fisker | Yay |
| 17:56.16 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: Because adapters? I assume the DP to HDMI also handles audio. |
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| 17:58.58 | Semlar | actually @cursor does nothing for normal spells right? |
| 17:59.22 | Semlar | so i could just replace every spell |
| 18:01.38 | Semlar | my objective for completing 4 kirin'tor world quests is complete 1 kirin'tor world quest |
| 18:02.32 | TheDanW | https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/803016564110860288 |
| 18:02.57 | Semlar | that makes this easier |
| 18:05.01 | Fisker | People who did the quests should get even more caches |
| 18:05.15 | foxlit | nevcairiel: I think it was someone else's hypothetical salami. |
| 18:06.16 | foxlit | (nothing actually uses that function, so there was a real opportunity to go "I fixed it... by deleting it! (evil laugh)" here) |
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| 18:44.02 | TheDanW | so i just checked in an addon that may be of interest, "Blizzard_APIDocumentation" |
| 18:44.52 | Ironii | :o |
| 18:45.18 | TheDanW | for 7.2, it'll start limited, but new systems will have documentation auto-generated and put into that addon, searchable ingame or easily scrapable by external tools |
| 18:45.27 | Ressy | oooh |
| 18:45.37 | Thunder_Child | Spiffy. |
| 18:45.39 | TheDanW | artifact UI will be the first system to use it |
| 18:53.31 | Alram | noice |
| 19:04.12 | Fisker | You are |
| 19:04.19 | Fisker | ð |
| 19:05.14 | Stanzilla | woah |
| 19:06.01 | Fisker | It's whoa |
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| 19:09.45 | Fisker | Nice |
| 19:09.55 | Fisker | Hearthstone expansion on Wednesday |
| 19:10.30 | Fisker | Oh Thursday |
| 19:12.52 | Thunder_Child | Failure. |
| 19:15.51 | Infus | TheDanW: does that mean that internally only the artifact ui has documentation? :P |
| 19:18.30 | Thunder_Child | My guess is that the documentation will be part of each internal module and the doc addon will slurp it and make it external. |
| 19:18.49 | Thunder_Child | At least that way it stays up to date with changes in the internal bits. |
| 19:19.24 | Stanzilla | there was no internal documentation before that though |
| 19:19.38 | TheDanW | ^ |
| 19:22.30 | Thunder_Child | I assume there is, just not embedded into the module. |
| 19:23.01 | TheDanW | the code is the only documentation |
| 19:24.48 | Stanzilla | Thunder_Child: there was none, really |
| 19:24.56 | Stanzilla | no jokerino |
| 19:25.11 | Thunder_Child | That's scary on something the size of wow. |
| 19:25.35 | TheDanW | you get really good at reading lua_push* |
| 19:25.59 | foxlit | bonus: the code doesn't lie to you. |
| 19:27.26 | Thunder_Child | Well there's all those functions that exist but never get referenced..... |
| 19:27.44 | TheDanW | there's still code that implements those functions |
| 19:29.12 | kd3 | wait, what? auto-documentation? |
| 19:29.20 | kd3 | looks for his smelling salts |
| 19:35.08 | Fisker | Documentation is silly |
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| 19:48.42 | Infus | TheDanW: in that case you should release that code as documentation :) |
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