| 00:13.20 | Mr_Rabies | argh i wish there was an order hall resource cache or something |
| 00:13.50 | Mr_Rabies | that's really the most anti-alt thing in the game right now, how much of a pain OR are |
| 00:15.44 | Gnarfoz | there kind of is |
| 00:15.59 | Gnarfoz | you can buy resources with blood of sargeras and mail it to alts |
| 00:16.06 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i guess |
| 00:16.15 | Mr_Rabies | but phew that's a bad exchange rate |
| 00:16.46 | Mr_Rabies | 500 or 1000 might make more sense, but whatever |
| 00:16.48 | Gnarfoz | it's not great, no ^^ |
| 00:17.20 | Mr_Rabies | you pretty much have to do world quests over and over to get them at any managable amount |
| 00:17.31 | Mr_Rabies | and i'm so tired of damned world quests on one character |
| 00:17.35 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not gonna do many on a second |
| 00:18.32 | Mr_Rabies | i basically stopped doing order hall missions other than gold ones at this point |
| 00:18.39 | Mr_Rabies | the AP ones aren't worth it, the dungeon ones aren't worth it |
| 00:19.28 | Mr_Rabies | i can proc equipment from the gold missions so i only do the really, really good equipment ones |
| 00:22.24 | Gnarfoz | AP ones are the only ones worth it because AP is the only thing that matters |
| 00:23.00 | Gnarfoz | all others I do at any%, just to clear them out |
| 00:23.34 | Mr_Rabies | eh i got all my dps traits for my weapon and almost got a second weapon tied |
| 00:23.51 | Mr_Rabies | the cost is just too damned high to worry about wasting OR on the missions |
| 00:25.11 | Stanzilla | all dps traits = lvl 35+ |
| 00:25.28 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 00:25.29 | Stanzilla | do you have that? |
| 00:25.44 | Mr_Rabies | nah, but at 27 points i have to put in like 80 gorillion AP |
| 00:25.49 | Mr_Rabies | 18k ain't gonna touch that |
| 00:26.08 | Mr_Rabies | 27 points was my last dps one that matters until the dump one, which is so far away anyway |
| 00:26.23 | Mr_Rabies | better to just wait on AK to hit cap |
| 00:26.50 | Mr_Rabies | barely seeking AP i'm at 29 points, almost to 30 on one weapon |
| 00:26.55 | Mr_Rabies | 27 on my os tank weapon |
| 00:26.58 | nevcairiel | also AP missions are an awesome source of AP, the bonus token you get for high chances is rather high in value, and costs you nothing =p |
| 00:27.12 | Mr_Rabies | it costs a lot of OR i'd rather not spend time farming up |
| 00:27.25 | nevcairiel | people that lack OR just dont play the game at all |
| 00:27.27 | Mr_Rabies | they really need to like, double the OR rewards from world quests |
| 00:27.34 | Mr_Rabies | i play a ton |
| 00:27.46 | nevcairiel | i have like 40k and i dont farm any of it specifically, just do AP missions and any extras for emissary if needed |
| 00:27.47 | Mr_Rabies | ive done almost 800 world quests or something |
| 00:28.00 | Mr_Rabies | basically only OR ones for the last month or so |
| 00:28.15 | Mr_Rabies | only AP ones that are relatively easy and give over 10k |
| 00:28.24 | Mr_Rabies | (or emissary quests) |
| 00:28.59 | Mr_Rabies | i juuuuuuust finished my 2nd legendary research because i couldn't be bothered to farm up 12k |
| 00:29.08 | Mr_Rabies | how do you get your bonus roll tokens, nevcairiel? |
| 00:29.11 | Mr_Rabies | gold? |
| 00:29.21 | nevcairiel | usually 2OR, 1 gold |
| 00:29.30 | Mr_Rabies | that's mostly what i do, yeah |
| 00:29.36 | nevcairiel | but i could easily use 3 OR and still net extra every week |
| 00:29.40 | nevcairiel | its been slowly growing |
| 00:29.51 | Mr_Rabies | i don't know how |
| 00:29.57 | Mr_Rabies | i get like 4k a week at most |
| 00:30.15 | Mr_Rabies | and spend basically all of it between missions and bonus rolls |
| 00:30.29 | nevcairiel | my combat ally has the 100 OR for every WQ item, and I do AP WQs, so thats typically 800 every day from that alone |
| 00:30.37 | Mr_Rabies | that'll do it i guess |
| 00:30.43 | Mr_Rabies | i have one 25 OR and 1 50 OR |
| 00:30.45 | Mr_Rabies | on him |
| 00:30.56 | nevcairiel | do they even stack? |
| 00:30.59 | Mr_Rabies | yep |
| 00:31.08 | Mr_Rabies | you can use two different ones |
| 00:31.12 | nevcairiel | mine has gold and OR i think |
| 00:31.14 | Mr_Rabies | but i've never gotten a +100 one |
| 00:31.37 | Mr_Rabies | i have a pile of equipment, but no good stuff really |
| 00:33.04 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/9LiIrOw.png |
| 00:33.06 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 00:40.08 | tz | +150 is silly, precisely why I do so |
| 00:41.46 | Mr_Rabies | i'd love for +200 |
| 00:41.53 | Mr_Rabies | i'd be set |
| 00:42.22 | tz | can you use the same item? |
| 00:42.24 | tz | hmm |
| 00:42.30 | tz | I have a spare +100 in my bank |
| 00:42.52 | Mr_Rabies | don't think so |
| 00:42.54 | nevcairiel | i just have a single 100 in him and i have more OR then i know what to do with |
| 00:42.55 | Mr_Rabies | only two different ones |
| 00:43.01 | nevcairiel | I don't do any useless missions though |
| 00:43.06 | nevcairiel | "clearing" them seems pointless |
| 00:43.12 | tz | wait, never mind, I have a spare +50 |
| 00:43.15 | nevcairiel | so i do AP mission, gold mission and questm issions |
| 00:43.25 | tz | mine came from the requisitioner shit |
| 00:43.34 | Mr_Rabies | i stopped doing the dungeon ones when they limited it to one at a time |
| 00:43.45 | Mr_Rabies | i don't need 840 gear anyway |
| 00:44.09 | Gnarfoz | dat titanforge proc ;) |
| 00:44.25 | Mr_Rabies | i had a piece of gear from heroic EN titanforge up to 895 |
| 00:44.26 | Mr_Rabies | :v |
| 00:44.45 | Mr_Rabies | but i'm still using an 840 ring because there's no good rings in EN |
| 00:44.46 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 00:44.58 | Mr_Rabies | 855 neck i think, too :( |
| 00:45.13 | Mr_Rabies | i do the WQs for rings and necks with crit/mastery |
| 00:45.20 | Mr_Rabies | and trinkets i think might be good if they roll up |
| 00:45.23 | Mr_Rabies | just in case |
| 00:45.36 | Mr_Rabies | but i hate the legion dungeons so much that i don't really do them |
| 00:45.54 | Mr_Rabies | i do one keystone a week, give or take |
| 00:45.58 | Mr_Rabies | just so the chest spawns |
| 00:46.05 | nevcairiel | 7.1.5 is supposed to "fix" that by making stats scale up stronger on those items without main stat, so raid rings and necks might be worth it eventually |
| 00:46.32 | Mr_Rabies | i have an 875 ring that's a downgrade in comparison to the 840 i have, i think |
| 00:46.34 | Mr_Rabies | 870 maybe |
| 00:46.48 | nevcairiel | right now thats a problem for many classes |
| 00:47.09 | Mr_Rabies | and i really just hate how there's no good way to tell if a trinket is worth it |
| 00:47.13 | tz | http://i.imgur.com/DqhBQFb.png |
| 00:47.16 | tz | I should just sell that shit |
| 00:47.21 | Mr_Rabies | other than just relying on ask mr robot to be reliable |
| 00:47.22 | nevcairiel | but like i said, in the future those items get more stats for their item level, so the hope is that even though its the "wrong" stats, it'll be so much more of the wrong stat that its worth it |
| 00:49.09 | Mr_Rabies | i really can't think of a good solution for trinkets other than making them drop like crazy |
| 00:49.10 | nevcairiel | (not to mention that they plan to remedy big gaps between different secondary stats, but not seen anything to that effect yet) |
| 00:49.19 | Mr_Rabies | because i don't want trinkets to be more boring |
| 00:49.28 | Mr_Rabies | just stats like everything else |
| 00:49.29 | nevcairiel | trinkets have always worked like that |
| 00:49.53 | Mr_Rabies | eh sorta, but now with the massive amount of variance on item level |
| 00:49.55 | Mr_Rabies | it's way worse now |
| 00:50.19 | Mr_Rabies | like you can have an item anywhere between 820 and 895 for some of these |
| 00:50.41 | Mr_Rabies | or 880, or something, either way |
| 00:50.56 | Mr_Rabies | i'm using an 845 trinket because the second one i got from EN is garbage |
| 00:51.02 | Mr_Rabies | 865 |
| 00:52.24 | Mr_Rabies | i really kinda hate the warforging/titanforging thing |
| 00:52.29 | Mr_Rabies | it has its benefits, but |
| 00:52.57 | Mr_Rabies | i kinda would prefer just having an item upgrade system |
| 00:53.03 | Mr_Rabies | where items can just drop pre-upgraded |
| 00:53.36 | Mr_Rabies | and also reforging would be nice to bring back since they're never gonna balance secondary stats properly |
| 00:53.57 | Mr_Rabies | now that hit and expertise are gone the big annoyance with reforging is gone |
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| 00:56.38 | nevcairiel | reforging doesnt help anything |
| 00:56.48 | nevcairiel | it doesnt solve problems, its not interesting |
| 00:57.02 | Mr_Rabies | it solves the problem of not having gear with the stats you need on it |
| 00:57.09 | Mr_Rabies | there is not a single crit/mastery ring in EN |
| 00:57.23 | nevcairiel | so it makes everyone 1% stronger, then mbos get 1% more life, and nothing changed |
| 00:57.39 | mckenziemc | but, bigger numbers! |
| 00:57.57 | foxlit | (should've implemented user-scalable megadamage!) |
| 00:58.03 | Mr_Rabies | it helps a lot with making gear drops feel less crappy, nevcairiel |
| 00:58.27 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather they fix stats to be a lot more balanced, but |
| 00:58.28 | nevcairiel | reforging was only useful with stats with actually reachable hard-caps, like hit, because any more gave you literally nothing |
| 00:58.30 | foxlit | Personally, I think someone will whine about it regardless of how small the difference is. |
| 00:58.46 | nevcairiel | but the wrong stats now still give you things |
| 00:58.52 | foxlit | "No crit/mastery rings in EN, I have to reforge and they're still crap. Blizzard sucks!" |
| 00:59.02 | Mr_Rabies | they can, but you can have an item that's a 30 ilvl upgrade be a downgrade, nevcairiel |
| 00:59.03 | Mr_Rabies | that sucks |
| 00:59.15 | nevcairiel | and they are fixing that |
| 00:59.18 | nevcairiel | so stop your bitching |
| 00:59.19 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 00:59.23 | Mr_Rabies | allegedly |
| 00:59.31 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think it really fixes it |
| 00:59.54 | Mr_Rabies | if you had a crit/mastery item at 845, and get an 870 one, and both of them give you double the benefit on stats |
| 01:00.07 | Mr_Rabies | you just losing that much more crit and mastery to get a haste/vers one |
| 01:00.47 | nevcairiel | the key point is that the curve is steeper, not that the baseline jsut gets raised :p |
| 01:01.10 | nevcairiel | (also versa is generally underrated) |
| 01:02.16 | Mr_Rabies | did they say that? i thought they basically just said they want to double the stats on them |
| 01:02.30 | Mr_Rabies | if the curve is steeper then i'm down, but we'll see |
| 01:02.54 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really like reforging but since they're not really interested in making secondary stats roughly equal it's a band-aid fix that's better than what we have now |
| 01:03.06 | Mr_Rabies | you can at least make a crappy item into an okay item |
| 01:03.10 | Mr_Rabies | instead of just vendoring/DEing it |
| 01:03.18 | nevcairiel | they dont need to be equal, they just need to be closer then they are on some classes |
| 01:03.46 | Mr_Rabies | i think unless there's reforging they need to be equal |
| 01:03.51 | nevcairiel | no they do not |
| 01:03.54 | Mr_Rabies | or items should have 3 secondary stats |
| 01:03.56 | nevcairiel | how boring would that be |
| 01:03.56 | Mr_Rabies | intead of just 2 |
| 01:04.04 | foxlit | New concept: remove all stats everywhere. |
| 01:04.13 | foxlit | Item level just gives you points you can spend on whatever. |
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| 01:04.24 | Mr_Rabies | i mean |
| 01:04.25 | foxlit | Itemization totally solved, everyone can go home now. |
| 01:04.28 | nevcairiel | its totally fine for some item being better then some other item |
| 01:04.28 | Mr_Rabies | i'd be okay with that |
| 01:04.32 | fewyn | new idea: let's just all quit |
| 01:04.50 | nevcairiel | it just needs to be reasonable |
| 01:05.00 | fewyn | no one has to worry about itemization |
| 01:05.00 | nevcairiel | say 5 ilvl difference, you still pick your better stats |
| 01:05.04 | nevcairiel | 10 or 15? ilvl should win |
| 01:05.17 | Mr_Rabies | nevcairiel: i agree, but i think being how gear works, reforging is a good solution while making secondaries unique per class |
| 01:05.21 | foxlit | fewyn: didn't everyone already? :) |
| 01:05.28 | nevcairiel | reforging is just no solution |
| 01:05.39 | nevcairiel | its an addon you install and click a button |
| 01:05.47 | nevcairiel | it doesnt fix stuff, it just makes you slightly more powerful |
| 01:05.51 | Mr_Rabies | honestly, that's not an issue since caps don't exist |
| 01:05.51 | fewyn | my solution is just to use pawn |
| 01:05.59 | fewyn | and click the equip button with the up arrow |
| 01:06.04 | nevcairiel | a bad item will still be bad |
| 01:06.08 | nevcairiel | just less so |
| 01:06.12 | Mr_Rabies | that's fine |
| 01:06.13 | nevcairiel | so you change the baseline |
| 01:06.17 | Mr_Rabies | that's actually perfect |
| 01:06.24 | nevcairiel | and on the new baseline, everyone will complain about the same things |
| 01:06.38 | Mr_Rabies | make a totally optimized item at least partially optimized |
| 01:07.01 | nevcairiel | people complain right now, no matter if the stats are really unbalanced for their class (which they are for some), or even if they are not (which they also are for some) |
| 01:07.19 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i use pawn with simmed stat weights fewyn |
| 01:07.40 | Mr_Rabies | i bank everything that is within about 15 ilvls that isn't an upgrade, incase a patch changes stat weights heavily |
| 01:07.46 | Mr_Rabies | and disenchant everything else |
| 01:08.35 | foxlit | somehow a game design that requires you to simulate things to understand your itemisation goals seems like a collosal failure. |
| 01:08.53 | Mr_Rabies | i mean, i agree |
| 01:08.54 | nevcairiel | you dont really need to, but people just follow the trent |
| 01:08.58 | nevcairiel | trend* |
| 01:09.04 | Mr_Rabies | but you do, if you want to be effective |
| 01:09.23 | Mr_Rabies | if i equip just my highest ilvl gear i lose about 100k dps |
| 01:09.32 | nevcairiel | you can probably bne 95% as effective if you just follow a simple stat priority and common sense |
| 01:10.00 | nevcairiel | sims are for the high-end players, but people get obsessed with those |
| 01:10.07 | Mr_Rabies | if you follow a simple stat priority, you'll probably throw out a lot of gear that might be an upgrade because it has less optimal stats |
| 01:10.07 | nevcairiel | so it infects other people |
| 01:10.09 | nevcairiel | and here we are |
| 01:10.20 | Mr_Rabies | like "ew haste vers i don't need that" |
| 01:10.45 | Mr_Rabies | but in pawn it might be a 2% upgrade |
| 01:10.52 | nevcairiel | if its a significant ivll upgrade on a main-stat slot, you take it |
| 01:11.07 | Mr_Rabies | not a lot, but nothing in EN has ever been more than a 8% upgrade for me since i went in there |
| 01:11.10 | nevcairiel | thats the common sense part |
| 01:11.13 | Mr_Rabies | and i didn't do mythics before raiding, really |
| 01:12.18 | Mr_Rabies | i mean it's not really like simming is that hard anyway, it's nice immediately knowing if i should need or pass on an item |
| 01:12.25 | Mr_Rabies | since item level means nothing anymore |
| 01:12.50 | Mr_Rabies | the only holdup are trinkets and like i said there's not really a good fix there without making trinkets really boring |
| 01:13.49 | Mr_Rabies | or well, not need or pass |
| 01:14.12 | Mr_Rabies | but in our group, we trade non-upgrades to an officer and they do essentially master loot |
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| 02:44.53 | AmiYuy | This question might be 4 or so years late, but in Bartender4 can you not skin the Blizzard Vehicle Bar anymore? The only thing "VehicleBar" seems to adjust is a separate Exit button. |
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| 03:23.51 | nebula | you have the option to use blizzard art, otherwise it's just whatever bar you flag as the vehicle bar (typically 1) |
| 04:00.35 | AmiYuy | nebula: I have it set for the Posess Bar, and I see it switch over when I jump in a Thanksgiving chair, but the Blizzard UI is still on top, I can't find how to turn off the Blizzard default art/bar. :( |
| 04:02.04 | AmiYuy | *Bar 1 set as posess bar |
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| 05:35.22 | tz | boom headshot |
| 05:35.24 | tz | prat broken |
| 05:35.36 | tz | curse migration ftw |
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| 06:39.39 | WrathTECH | Okay, before I loose my sanity. I am trying to modify the MainMenuExpBar background color, but from what I am seeing it's in a table and doesn't have a name. Is there any way to make it work, like changing texture, setting color/vertex color? |
| 06:42.14 | WrathTECH | Nvm. Found the answer. Always has to be after an hour of searching, right after I ask. |
| 06:42.16 | WrathTECH | Ffs |
| 07:08.11 | sylvanaar | tz: hows it broken |
| 07:25.00 | tz | ummm, I rolled it back to 3.6.19, there were like 10 lua errors with the latest |
| 07:25.14 | tz | should still be in bugsack, let me log in |
| 07:25.44 | tz | a lot of files with stuff like the following: |
| 07:25.45 | tz | 2x Prat-3.0-r1033 \modules\AltNames.lua:143: ')' expected (to close '(' at line 142) near '=' |
| 07:26.20 | tz | 2x !Swatter\Support\LibStub.lua:13: Minor version must either be a number or contain a number. |
| 07:26.25 | tz | perhaps that's the root cause |
| 07:26.51 | Noshei | sylvanaar: do you use the curse localization? |
| 07:26.53 | sylvanaar | right - the packager didn't package AltNames like I would have liked |
| 07:26.56 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 07:27.01 | Noshei | thats the problem |
| 07:27.14 | Noshei | RTarity also had a problem with the curse localization packager |
| 07:27.19 | Noshei | *rarity |
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| 07:27.35 | tz | curse did real good with that shit |
| 07:27.44 | Noshei | they had to push an older version out because curse was still trying to figure out the problem |
| 07:27.47 | tz | I had to turn off -nolib because that was showing up as the default |
| 07:28.02 | tz | even without "install libs separately" disabled |
| 07:28.09 | tz | err, with |
| 07:28.16 | tz | mmmm, whatever, you know what I mean |
| 07:28.16 | sylvanaar | for now you can replace local MAJOR, MINOR = "LibAlts-1.0", "@project-revision@" with local MAJOR, MINOR = "LibAlts-1.0", "1" in LibAlts-1.0 |
| 07:28.55 | Noshei | its not just that file |
| 07:29.10 | tz | it's fine, I just left it at the earlier release |
| 07:29.26 | Noshei | I get errors for 34 different files in prat-3.0 |
| 07:30.00 | Noshei | I can send you them all if you want |
| 07:30.23 | mckenziemc | fun |
| 07:43.47 | plaw | tickles Iriel |
| 07:43.57 | Iriel | hm? |
| 07:44.19 | plaw | not ticklish? |
| 07:44.36 | Iriel | Not via IRC, at any rate 8-) |
| 07:44.49 | plaw | :( |
| 07:46.35 | mckenziemc | hugs Cairenn via IRC. |
| 07:51.28 | mckenziemc | apparently that didn't work either |
| 07:51.32 | mckenziemc | IRC must be broken :( |
| 07:53.32 | plaw | shakes his fist @ dolby |
| 07:53.38 | plaw | YOU GONE DUN BROKE STUFF AGAIN??!!! |
| 08:02.29 | WrathTECH | Would there be a way to use :GetWidth() to find the total width of all frames and spacing between them displayed? (i.e. total width of action bar from left edge of action button1 to right edge of action button 12 including blank space in between) |
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| 08:04.52 | mckenziemc | couldn't you just get the positions of the relevant corners? |
| 08:06.32 | Iriel | Or if you really want to use the GetWidth method |
| 08:06.40 | Iriel | Anchor a transparent frame or region to the relevant corners |
| 08:06.44 | Iriel | and call getWidth on it |
| 08:11.04 | WrathTECH | Actually Iriel, that solves what I was attempting to do. I needed a way to center all buttons in the action button array.. wanted to but a hidden frame behind it to anchor the buttons to that could be used to move the group. |
| 08:11.16 | Iriel | Go me! |
| 08:11.20 | WrathTECH | :D |
| 08:20.33 | WrathTECH | So now I've never done something like this. How do you do that, just specifiy multiple :SetPoint()'s? |
| 08:20.50 | Iriel | Well, it's a constraint engine |
| 08:20.57 | Iriel | so you do a TOPLEFT and a BOTTOMRIGHT |
| 08:21.06 | Iriel | (or TOPRIGHT and BOTTOMLEFT) |
| 08:21.22 | Iriel | It does require you know which the leftmost and rightmost action buttons are. |
| 08:22.02 | Iriel | The only slightly unusual thing is that you're anchoring to two different frames |
| 08:22.03 | WrathTECH | Yup. I definitely do. Everything is aligned and ready, |
| 08:22.45 | Iriel | Then you can just CENTER anchor your other stuff to your anchoring frame |
| 08:24.35 | WrathTECH | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:24.46 | WrathTECH | Worked flawlessly, not one error |
| 08:25.03 | Iriel | Excellent |
| 08:25.05 | WrathTECH | Yup, that was the intent why I wanted to find the total width and height |
| 08:25.25 | WrathTECH | Just to put a frame behind to anchor and center all buttons easily anywhere. |
| 08:28.51 | WrathTECH | Iriel, http://pastebin.com/kEH4D7Tu |
| 08:31.24 | Iriel | On that victorious note, I'm going to try and go to bed. |
| 08:40.39 | sylvanaar | tz: I think it is fixed. |
| 08:41.40 | tz | hokay, I'll give it a whirl |
| 08:42.59 | tz | 3.6.21-alpha or release? the release seems to still have the same issue |
| 08:43.44 | tz | wait curse app didn't update as usual |
| 08:45.13 | tz | still got issues with .22 |
| 08:46.21 | tz | same with .22-alpha |
| 08:46.25 | tz | dunno which is the actual latest |
| 08:47.40 | tz | seems like the localiser is still being a pain: http://i.imgur.com/z6I3V42.png |
| 08:47.55 | tz | that was ChatLog.lua, I'd imagine they're all similar considering they're all pretty much the same error |
| 08:48.13 | tz | 10 lua errors on login, let me know if you want a listing of each file |
| 09:01.30 | WrathTECH | What does "[string ""]:23: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)" mean? The ? is throwing me way off... its happening at line 23: http://pastebin.com/MZwVkQZB |
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| 09:37.10 | sylvanaar | tz ill take a listing, because I cant repro |
| 09:43.17 | nevcairiel | WrathTECH: clearly that button just doesnt exist |
| 09:43.49 | nevcairiel | not sure what microbarbutton is supposed to be, but i know of no frames by those names |
| 09:43.57 | nevcairiel | oh you named them like that |
| 09:44.08 | nevcairiel | in any case you didnt create a 12 |
| 09:44.19 | nevcairiel | and a better solution would be to shove them into a table isntead of creating global aliases |
| 09:54.12 | WrathTECH | I got it working. |
| 09:54.25 | WrathTECH | Yeah, It's only 11 buttons, not 12 |
| 09:54.39 | WrathTECH | So it bugged when it hit the 12'th run |
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| 10:33.47 | tz | sylvanaar: addon\options-Options.lua, modules\{Alias,AltNames,Buttons,EventNames,ChannelNames,ChannelColorMemory,ChannelSticky,ChatFrames}.lua |
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| 10:35.47 | tz | errr, just addon\options.lua, bugsack/whatever put it in as the version or however it mangles the filename |
| 10:36.31 | tz | all the localisation for each of those files ends up with a resulting file like the following: https://i.imgur.com/z6I3V42.png |
| 10:36.49 | tz | seems the insertion of the localisation tables is just plain rooted now |
| 10:37.59 | VIad | last prat update broke the addon, sylvanaar :p |
| 10:39.27 | VIad | v19 works, the rest use a broken locale formatting that breaks the lua files |
| 10:45.17 | tz | ....that's what I said :P |
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| 11:03.58 | Tomaz^ | hmm |
| 11:04.13 | Tomaz^ | a for loop in lua, is the variable decalred lcaol or global |
| 11:04.24 | Tomaz^ | for _, entry in ipairs( db ) do |
| 11:04.30 | Tomaz^ | like so, is entry here, local? |
| 11:04.48 | Tomaz^ | is making sure everything in his addons use local where possible |
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| 11:30.10 | Ironii | its local |
| 11:41.31 | Tomaz^ | thanks |
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| 14:33.56 | _Kee | is really happy seeing Tomaz^'s last question |
| 14:35.04 | _Kee | is really happy seeing Tomaz^'s last question* |
| 15:18.14 | karl_w_w | what the fuck |
| 15:18.26 | karl_w_w | my install of samsung magician is 4.5 |
| 15:18.33 | karl_w_w | and it says it's the latest |
| 15:18.48 | karl_w_w | but it's 2 years old and the latest is 4.9.7 |
| 15:28.50 | foxlit | the optimistic explanation is that your samsung hardware is also at least 2 years old and the new version doesn't do anything for it. |
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| 15:34.17 | karl_w_w | I suspected that might be the case foxlit, but when I updated it showed me there's new firmware for my SSD while the old version said there wasn't |
| 15:35.21 | kullervo | update check protocol was changed |
| 15:35.47 | karl_w_w | and even if there wasn't a need to update on this SSD, if you're migrating your OS to a new SSD (a task that samsung has their own tool for) it seems wise to update magician first |
| 15:45.21 | Tomaz^ | _Kee? |
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| 16:03.24 | VIad | I'm probably an idiot for asking. but on bosses with >100 mil hp it says 1G why the G? |
| 16:03.46 | VIad | or is it a font thing, that it's B but looks like G :p |
| 16:03.57 | nevcairiel | G for giga :p |
| 16:05.24 | VIad | gillion |
| 16:05.33 | VIad | 3 gazillion health |
| 16:09.27 | _Kee | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giga- |
| 16:09.46 | VIad | tbh I assumed billion follewd million |
| 16:09.49 | VIad | followed* |
| 16:10.04 | _Kee | k, M, G, T, P, E, Z, Y. |
| 16:10.13 | _Kee | This is international notation. |
| 16:10.44 | VIad | I assumed that we, players, used "k" for 1000, but that ingame "M" was for million :p |
| 16:10.53 | VIad | interesting |
| 16:11.28 | _Kee | In USA, you have million -> billion -> etc., in EU we have million -> milliard -> billion -> billiard etc. so using international convension is better so we avoid confusions. I approve it :) |
| 16:12.43 | VIad | not often you have things with "g" health so no real confusion either, just was unsure what it stood for :d |
| 16:18.31 | nevcairiel | you cant use K and then assume M is for million, that would just be inconsistent, M is for Mega =p |
| 16:18.58 | VIad | I thought the "k" was just what we players used :p |
| 16:19.15 | VIad | starting as a tech like we use for drive space and such as "k" |
| 16:19.27 | VIad | so didnt think M was mega, thought million :d |
| 16:19.27 | nevcairiel | we also use M/G/T for drives :p |
| 16:19.44 | VIad | I hope you dont have a drive with M capacity :( |
| 16:19.56 | Tomaz^ | does |
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| 16:20.12 | VIad | kek |
| 16:20.20 | Tomaz^ | My Amiga 1200 ( which I still use ) has 40Mb HDD :P |
| 16:20.25 | nevcairiel | i dont think i have ever seen the game itself use G though |
| 16:20.31 | nevcairiel | are you sure its not an addon |
| 16:20.32 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 16:20.39 | VIad | I use pitbull |
| 16:20.44 | nevcairiel | then its that |
| 16:20.53 | VIad | what does blizz Ui say? |
| 16:20.58 | Iriel | Tomaz^: Amiga represent! |
| 16:20.59 | VIad | 293819312839 ? :D |
| 16:21.09 | Iriel | I had a lot of fun with my Amiga 500 back in the day. |
| 16:21.22 | Tomaz^ | Iriel: They're still loads of fun :) |
| 16:21.27 | nevcairiel | in D3 they use fully localized variants, so M/B in english clients and "Mio" and "Mrd" in german clients, which just looks terrible =p |
| 16:21.45 | Iriel | I gave mine away when I moved to the US. |
| 16:21.46 | Tomaz^ | Playing all those kids I grew up with on the actual hardware beats using an emulator by miles! |
| 16:21.49 | Tomaz^ | erm |
| 16:21.55 | Tomaz^ | *all thos games I grew up with |
| 16:22.30 | Iriel | I sitll have my BBC Micro |
| 16:22.55 | Iriel | Though it's in my parents' house.. last time I was there i did get it to power on |
| 16:22.56 | sylvanaar | tz: I redid all the localization, lets see if that helps |
| 16:23.40 | VIad | sylvanaar: issue was using like L:AddLang("enUS", L = { ... |
| 16:23.50 | VIad | the "L =" part bugged it out :d |
| 16:24.30 | sylvanaar | Right because I was asking for a table and they gave me an assignment statement |
| 16:24.35 | VIad | y |
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| 16:27.28 | karl_w_w | aww yeah |
| 16:27.48 | karl_w_w | that sweet sweet post-software update feeling |
| 16:28.13 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 16:29.03 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 16:34.00 | fewyn | hrm i think prat forgot my font after the update i just installed :( |
| 16:35.47 | fewyn | actually prat isn't loading at all which explains it even more |
| 16:36.27 | mckenziemc | retries transmitting a hug to Cairenn over IRC. |
| 16:36.34 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
| 16:40.04 | foxlit | _Kee: English overwhelmingly prefers the short scale. The French should clearly get with the program. |
| 16:41.42 | sylvanaar | fewyn: gimme a min to fix a few things |
| 16:41.55 | mckenziemc | it's a billion times better! |
| 16:43.22 | fewyn | sylvanaar: it's cool i just installed an older version for now |
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| 18:03.10 | Noshei | sylvanaar: I have bad news, if you didn't know the newest update for prat is still broken due to curse packager |
| 18:04.07 | sylvanaar | Yes, I tried to fix it - but the packager has a bug with multiline localization strings |
| 18:04.31 | nebula | really should just delete it |
| 18:04.46 | Noshei | yeah, better off rolling back to the last working version |
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| 18:45.43 | sylvanaar | I should? |
| 18:48.29 | mckenziemc | curse is now the bigger prat |
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| 19:14.53 | karl_w_w | https://i.redd.it/vo27z1etw20y.jpg ew I don't like it |
| 19:15.15 | karl_w_w | mckenziemc, scare away the ghost dots for me |
| 19:16.01 | foxlit | this appears to be a laptop keyboard with a numpad. |
| 19:16.04 | foxlit | What's wrong with you?! |
| 19:20.48 | Gnarfoz | and with ghost dots |
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| 19:22.38 | mckenziemc | gives karl_w_w some spiders. |
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| 19:43.46 | Thunder_Child | I wish my laptop had a numpad. |
| 20:05.49 | Simca | ahhh, so that's why i get a billion archy errors from localization stuff |
| 20:05.55 | Simca | (re: the earlier convo) |
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| 22:37.57 | znf | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/5f7cxt/pvp_vendor_at_hellfire_peninsula_selling_210/ |
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| 22:37.58 | znf | wth :D |
