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01:11.21foxlitin unrelated news: ads for the last guardian in cinemas.
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08:31.30VIadI wonder if it is possible to turn guild master loot into the old school group roll system. if you are ML, you can request a group roll for any item that drops, then the results can help you assign it to the winner, simulating the regular old GL system :d I wonder if an addon can do all that
08:31.54VIadsecureapi/hwevents issues that is
08:41.54Shockah|Worknot entirely sure what you mean there
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08:47.24Mr_Rabiesbasically automate the master loot thing back into group loot
08:47.47Mr_Rabiesbut doesn't group loot still exist as an option? it's need before greed, but i think so?
08:48.12VIadyes Mr_Rabies
08:48.17VIadand its horrible for transmog runs :p
08:48.23Mr_Rabieshow's that?
08:48.28Mr_Rabiesyou can't transmog a piece you can't use :o
08:48.31VIadyou can't need that plate, because you are a tank, and that is a healer plate
08:48.37Mr_Rabiesoh
08:48.46VIad:p
08:48.48Shockah|Workor guild is using an addon i wrote specifically for us https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/ib-raid-loot
08:48.49Mr_Rabiesjust have everyone greed everything they want :v
08:48.52Shockah|Workbut yeah it's not ideal for transmog runs
08:49.00VIadits hard because you invite some friends too
08:49.06VIadand people start to get need-clicky happy if they can
08:49.13VIadbecause "what if the pug guy needs" fear
08:49.19VIadespecially if it is rare stuff :p
08:49.41VIadwas thinking I could make an addon I can run to make ML into the old GL so everyone can need/greed or whatever :p
08:49.43znfeasy fix
08:49.44znfrun it solo
08:49.48VIadkek
08:49.59znfnot even sure why that's an issue :P
08:50.00VIadbtw I didn't know the string widgets had a :IsTruncated() :d
08:50.18Mr_Rabiesyou really should run everything solo except the flexible raids maybe
08:50.29VIadwod stuff is flexible raids
08:50.32Shockah|Workthe addon is basically that, without automated loot distribution
08:50.34VIadeverything else is soloable anyway
08:50.41Shockah|Workbut i don't remember if you need a hardware event to award loot
08:51.01Shockah|Workcan't remember if there was a confirmation dialog or not
08:51.08Mr_Rabiesit'd be nice if you could dial flexible raids to a specific number
08:51.11Shockah|Worki think not?
08:51.37Mr_Rabieslike even current content
08:51.51Mr_Rabieswhen your group is roflstomping heroic but you don't want to conform to 20 man for mythic
08:52.17Mr_Rabiesset it to 30 man and benefit from the higher loot chance and difficulty
08:53.38VIadset it to 40 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
08:53.58VIadwtb <legion expansions 40 man mode for extra loot
08:54.00Mr_Rabieswell, 30 is as high as flexible raids go :O
08:54.11VIadjust crank everything to max :d
08:55.02Mr_Rabies40 man definitely starts to get into "too far for 2 tanks to go" design wise
08:55.12Mr_Rabieseven 30 man is kinda pushing it
08:55.47Mr_Rabiesbut every raid encounter is designed for 2 tanks nowadays
08:56.32Mr_Rabiesyou can make some easier, i.e. xavius by adding tanks
08:56.57Mr_Rabieswe also played with the idea for ursoc but the extra dps was worth it
08:57.18VIadI am talking about pre-legion content, hence <legion
08:57.21VIadfor xmogs
08:57.23Shockah|Workyeah we often go 3 tanks for some encounters
08:57.23VIadfor most drops
08:57.34VIadyou can 2 tank spider easy
08:57.46VIadjust die to break link on 2nd platform and CR
08:57.46VIadxd
08:58.27Mr_Rabiesoh derp
09:01.07VIadI was thinking on LOOT_OPENED if ML (hence guild group) and old content check, then just start the DoMasterLootRoll(slot) for all the items on the list
09:01.22VIadthen monitor the roll results in the loot history and award based on who won the rolls
09:02.38Shockah|Workoh you wanted it to work with the vanilla need/greed
09:02.48Shockah|Workso no need for people to have an addon
09:02.51Shockah|Workother than master looter
09:06.15VIadexactly :p
09:06.22VIadcan just simulate the vanilla GL on their end
09:06.50VIadwe already use RCLC for raid loot, this is just xmog runs
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09:45.47VIadugh. looked at it. need a good system to connect the loot frame items, with the roll frames used to gauge who wants something :/
09:46.24VIadthink the design requires a human element to connect the roll results and manually assign item, thus it might not be 100% to figure out who gets what :p
10:07.57Shockah|Workiirc XLoot did show properly who rolled on what if you request group roll on an item
10:08.34VIadI can take a peak how he connected the code, steal some ideas :p
10:11.57VIadchaud is reposting the stuff I've read on reddit the past days ;p
10:12.09VIadI should stop hanging on reddit if I am to read mmochamp news as "news" :p
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11:46.33Fiskerhugs Cairenn for free
11:46.42Cairennhugs Fisker
11:47.22Fiskernotices it wasn't free
11:47.32CairennThey're always free
11:58.11Fisker:D
12:03.58VIad( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
14:00.19_KeeWhen I distribute items as ML, sometimes GetItemInfo() returns empty result for relic boss drops, so it's GP value cannot be calculated, any idea how to fix it?
14:00.39_KeeAnd the problem seems to happen with relics only.
14:01.34_KeeAnd it happens like randomly (at least, I didn't found a case).
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14:08.48foxlitGetItemInfo is never guaranteed to return anything.
14:09.14_Keeoh :/
14:09.45nevcairielif it doesnt it should fire an event  when the info was obtained though
14:10.17foxlitif the server/client feels like doing that. There used to be quite a lot of whining that items would get stuck on "retrieving item information"
14:12.03foxlitbut yeah, your addon should just expect that GetItemInfo can return nil if it feels like it, and catch the eventual GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED(itemID)
14:12.05VIadGetItemInfoInstant is guaranteed to return if the item is real :d
14:12.27nevcairielbut *Instant only has very limited data =p
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14:14.10foxlitmaybe have some ui provision for querying GII again if your initial request disappears into nothingness.
14:14.51_KeeI've edited EPGP lib, and it looks like it can't wait for event. I'll edit the lib propably to wait for event.
14:14.59_KeeThanks for all the help :)
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17:27.42mckenziemcwhat's up with your clone, Semlar
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20:45.25VIadhe codes the addons :p
20:50.37InfusTheDanW: so, for the clipping test case. Any suggestion on a good work around? we found several other places where it breaks stuff
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23:14.23SemlarInfus: stop breaking things
23:17.55InfusSemlar: clearly https://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54822 is too advanced
23:28.56Semlardid you set clipChildren, because they turned scrollframes into an intrinsic thin
23:28.57Semlarg
23:29.13Semlarand i don't know if they set that by default, even though that would be logical
23:29.51Semlarand you don't click on mouse-enabled buttons that are clipped in the default interface
23:29.54foxlityou're thinking of something else, Semlar.
23:30.04Semlarorly
23:30.33Semlari was under the impression that they made it so you can turn any frame into a clippy frame and got rid of scrollframes
23:31.14nebulasmf is an intrinsic, sf is still a different frame type
23:31.25nebulaerm
23:31.43nebulasomething like that
23:32.07Semlari know the message frame was made into an intrinsic, but if they made it so you could any frame's children i don't know why they wouldn't have turned scrollframes into one too
23:32.19Semlarcould clip*
23:33.00Semlari've been driving all day so my brain isn't working
23:33.48nebulasf has all the methods to move around the child frame, i imagine if you wanted you could probably do something similar manually with two normal frames
23:34.29Semlari always moved a scrollframe's child manually
23:35.08Semlari know they have the scroll offset methods but i just used setpoint
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23:56.41fewyni just noticed TSM has been posting an item of mine at 1146527g 07s 11c .... what? http://i.imgur.com/v8K0jhq.png
23:56.58fewynthat's 1.1m gold
23:58.58fewynstares
23:59.48mckenziemcPEBKAC

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