| 00:00.26 | znf | Gnarfoz, why is java being an ass? |
| 00:00.36 | Gethe | pretty sure i've seen him in here at some point |
| 00:00.37 | nebula | he responded to my gh issue pretty quick |
| 00:00.38 | Gnarfoz | because that's what it does |
| 00:01.36 | Gethe | ~seen Rainrider |
| 00:01.38 | purl | Gethe: i haven't seen 'rainrider' |
| 00:01.56 | Gethe | maybe not |
| 00:04.02 | Ballmer_Peak | oh phooey! answered my own question before I answered it. |
| 00:04.12 | Ballmer_Peak | boolean switch won't work with numbers. |
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| 00:13.53 | Ballmer_Peak | So, stop me if you've heard this one. I messed up my file, and decided, I'll CTRL-Z this file into submission... and I got it back to where I think I started to screw it up, and then saved the file, fixed it the right way, then went in and ran it, and it crashes, saying the function doesn't exist thingy. |
| 00:14.33 | Ballmer_Peak | Turns out, I CTRL-Z'd my way to right between cutting a function out of the script, and moving it to a new place. |
| 00:15.11 | Ballmer_Peak | thankfully, I frequently save .bak files when developing, or I could have been in a world of hurt. |
| 00:18.35 | xyphoid | local git's pretty nice for that |
| 00:19.07 | foxlit | but will it survive a stray rm -fr .? |
| 00:19.22 | xyphoid | i was using it for my old scribe addon (and then never got around to copying the local repo off my old machine and lost it WELP) |
| 00:19.33 | xyphoid | but at least it helped with undo |
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| 00:24.58 | Ballmer_Peak | is there a blanket ShowAllFrames() command? |
| 00:26.56 | Gnarfoz | TheDanW: while trying to condense this into an issue I can report to the lib author, I came upon the question: why does hiding the ArtifactUI help (if at the time of its OnShow, C_ArtifactUI.GetTotalPurchasedRanks returns)? did you mean to imply to also kill the rest of ArtifactFrame's OnShow? |
| 00:29.28 | Gnarfoz | ("returns nil", not "returns", of course) |
| 00:32.20 | Ballmer_Peak | nvm, solved my issue another way. |
| 00:32.27 | TheDanW | Gnarfoz: yes, prehook the function and don't execute anything |
| 00:32.33 | TheDanW | in the case of nil |
| 00:32.43 | Ballmer_Peak | apparently after naming a frame... it's a good idea to start calling it by it's name, and not it's designation. |
| 00:33.00 | Ballmer_Peak | less headaches of wondering just what the fuck happened to your code in the last 3 minutes. |
| 00:35.44 | Gnarfoz | TheDanW: right! thanks. seems kind of obvious, in hindsight, but it's oh-dark-hundred (and then some) |
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| 00:38.24 | Gnarfoz | ~framexml |
| 00:38.25 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
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| 00:50.10 | TheDanW | the fix for UNIT_HEALTH events with a nil guid won't make it until 7.1.5 |
| 00:50.22 | nebula | what was the problem? |
| 00:50.27 | znf | eh, most people fixed their addons by now |
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| 00:51.35 | TheDanW | some client-only units (like some special spell effects and pet battles) would be briefly without a guid during initialization |
| 00:52.20 | nebula | ah |
| 00:52.36 | Gnarfoz | client-only units, that sounds like fun |
| 00:52.48 | Simca | talking about scenescript-created units, i think |
| 00:52.59 | Gnarfoz | I guess we should be lucky we don't have to see all whats going just behind the curtain |
| 00:53.02 | foxlit | things that conspicously get reported as priests. |
| 00:53.37 | foxlit | (or maybe I just default to that highlight) |
| 01:02.46 | Funkeh` | TheDanW, how come it never affected _FREQUENT? |
| 01:04.42 | Gnarfoz | great, I was afraid of this, but this appears to be a race condition ^^ the broken window appears before my OnShow replacement happens oO |
| 01:04.43 | foxlit | Funkeh`: to hazard a guess, that event requires the server to tell you that the unit's health changed. |
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| 01:08.57 | Ballmer_Peak | Ok, two directions I need to look now. First part is I need to figure out how to access my inventory, and sort it for a specific item, and state of that item. Second is how to hook the picklock function to a button on my addon. |
| 01:09.09 | Ballmer_Peak | can anyone link me in those directions? |
| 01:09.42 | Gnarfoz | lock picking as in opening a lockbox? rogue skill? |
| 01:09.52 | Ballmer_Peak | aye, that one. |
| 01:15.35 | TheDanW | Funkeh`: basically what foxlit said, these units always have accurate health so frequent updates aren't needed |
| 01:15.41 | Gnarfoz | TheDanW: I'm unsure as to how such a hook could be accomplished... UIParent is shows ArtifactFrame right after loading Blizzard_ArtifactUI https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/UIParent.lua#1497; my hook using ADDON_LOADED + Blizzard_ArtifactUI seems to be too late |
| 01:15.53 | Gnarfoz | -is |
| 01:16.38 | Gnarfoz | (the hook itself seems to work: if I toggle the frame afterwards, my helpful debug print shows up) |
| 01:18.08 | TheDanW | Gnarfoz: hooking ArtifactFrame_LoadUI() with a hooksecurefunc and replacing the OnShow on ArtifactFrame with your hook should do it |
| 01:18.28 | Gnarfoz | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 01:18.31 | TheDanW | it just needs to be before ShowUIPanel(ArtifactFrame); |
| 01:18.36 | Gnarfoz | I'll try that |
| 01:19.19 | Gnarfoz | didn't realize that indirection layer afforded me that possibility |
| 01:24.13 | Gnarfoz | Something's not quite right... |
| 01:24.23 | Gnarfoz | meaning I locked up my client, whoops |
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| 01:29.56 | Gnarfoz | hmmm |
| 01:30.09 | Gnarfoz | now whenever I try to open the UI, the client locks up. :D |
| 01:31.49 | Iriel | smells an infinite loop |
| 01:31.54 | Gnarfoz | indeed, but where? |
| 01:32.12 | Gnarfoz | I assumed since I'm hooking something in UIParent.lua, I'd be fine doing my stuff in the main chunk of my addon |
| 01:32.14 | Iriel | Does it end up with a stack overflow? |
| 01:32.16 | Gnarfoz | maybe that was a bad assumption |
| 01:32.27 | Iriel | or just lock up solid with nothing ? |
| 01:32.37 | Gnarfoz | just locks up and stays there |
| 01:32.46 | Iriel | Hm... a show-hide fight? |
| 01:33.32 | Gnarfoz | I'm not showing anything and only touching OnShow, so, don't think so |
| 01:33.36 | Thunder_Child | Iriel being quite skilled in breaking the client. |
| 01:33.39 | Gnarfoz | https://haste.smb.wtf/xuwowexepolerabonedubikaralobi.lua is what I'm doing |
| 01:34.18 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: yeah, totally your fault. |
| 01:34.43 | foxlit | what happens the second time ArtifactFrame_LoadUI is called? :) |
| 01:34.43 | Iriel | You need to check if you've already hooked it |
| 01:34.52 | Iriel | points at what foxlit is saying |
| 01:35.08 | Iriel | This is the one place tail recursion is a bitch |
| 01:35.17 | Gnarfoz | y u load things that are loaded! but I did see a note about hooksecurefunc just "adding more hooks" |
| 01:35.44 | Iriel | It's not line 15 that's the problem |
| 01:35.48 | Iriel | it's lines 12 and 13 |
| 01:35.55 | Iriel | you need an if (not orig_show) around them |
| 01:37.42 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 01:38.39 | foxlit | amusingly, http://pastebin.com/WpSev6YF would've worked marginally better. |
| 01:39.07 | foxlit | (for a while) |
| 01:39.15 | Iriel | s/worked marginally better/failed in a less obvious manner/ |
| 01:39.35 | foxlit | (and without that wonderful syntax error) |
| 01:40.03 | Gnarfoz | the terrible thing being, all this and the result is the same. |
| 01:40.52 | Ballmer_Peak | ok, to go through my bags, I have to step through each bag, and the slots in each bag, searching for items that match my search. Am I reading that right? |
| 01:41.03 | Gnarfoz | pretty much, yes |
| 01:42.12 | Gnarfoz | there's http://wow.gamepedia.com/API_GetItemCount but that only tells you if you have any of them, not where they are |
| 01:42.58 | Ballmer_Peak | then I could make a bag frame in my addon that shows one bag slot in particular, and then interact with that bag slot as though I had my bags open right? (I'm stabbing in the dark) |
| 01:44.07 | Ballmer_Peak | the overall gist I want to do is, when I loot a lockbox, it'll show up in that one slot, even if I need to rearrange the bags a little, I'm hoping that can be done with the bags closed. |
| 01:44.35 | Ballmer_Peak | then when the lockbox can be opened, I want the next lockbox shuffled into position, until they are all picked. |
| 01:44.38 | Gnarfoz | that sounds vaguely like what http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8543-LockSmith.html does |
| 01:45.01 | Gnarfoz | or not so vaguely, tbh |
| 01:45.28 | Ballmer_Peak | then when all the boxes are picked, they won't show up in the addon until you stealth, so that the loot from those boxes registers as stealth loot. |
| 01:46.00 | Ballmer_Peak | you can open a lockbox that has been picked while stealthed, and it won't break stealth. |
| 01:46.17 | Ballmer_Peak | I'll grab that addon and look at it. |
| 01:56.06 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 01:56.28 | Gnarfoz | considering I'm still getting the error, it should not be surprising that my hook function is not to be seen in the stack trace? |
| 01:58.28 | Iriel | Gnarfoz: I missed the first part of the conversation - what error are you getting? |
| 01:58.48 | Gnarfoz | zomg I was missing the ArtifactFrame:Hide() that was supposed to go into my replacement OnShow handler. |
| 01:59.26 | Semlar | um how do you get back to odyns room after you kill him in the trial of valor |
| 02:00.25 | Gnarfoz | (seems like it's now showing/hiding about 19 times on reload. wtf?) |
| 02:01.21 | Gnarfoz | Iriel: since I already summarized it for the ticket, I'll just point you there: https://github.com/Rainrider/LibArtifactData-1.0/issues/9 ^^ |
| 02:01.55 | Gnarfoz | black artifact UI window on reloadui saying "you haven't fully explored the power of that artifact" yadda yadda |
| 02:04.06 | Gnarfoz | I'm unsure why it's being loaded 19 times, but then, I don't really want to know anymore. :D |
| 02:05.04 | Iriel | I guess you're going to have to hunt down the code that calls C_ArtifactUI.GetRelicInfo and C_ArtifactUI.GetEquippedArtifactRelicInfo prematurely, and figure out how to skip IT |
| 02:05.50 | Iriel | If that's what you believe the cause is. |
| 02:06.18 | Gnarfoz | I believe... that I'll let the author of the offending code deal with this further :D |
| 02:06.31 | Iriel | That's always a viable plan! |
| 02:06.48 | Gnarfoz | (and I'll go ahead and supply them with the workaround that seems to do the trick now) |
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| 02:10.25 | Stanzilla | he can just go over to the ui devs and slap them around a bit if he wants though :p |
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| 02:11.07 | kullervo | should get a stuffed trout for that |
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| 02:25.46 | Semlar | alright what rogue cooldown is making that nonstop slicing noise |
| 02:26.19 | kullervo | it's not a cooldown, it's their main attack lol |
| 02:26.27 | Semlar | it only happens sometimes though |
| 02:26.41 | Semlar | it goes slice slice slice slice slice for like 10 seconds |
| 02:26.43 | kullervo | when it procs an extra attack |
| 02:26.50 | Semlar | seriously? |
| 02:27.10 | kullervo | it happens basically every time if the rogue rolls a certain buff |
| 02:28.08 | Gnarfoz | it's one of their golden traits, Semlar |
| 02:28.13 | Gnarfoz | I've whined about it in here a couple of times :D |
| 02:28.23 | Semlar | i just want to know which sound file to replace |
| 02:28.30 | Gnarfoz | that's what I want to know, too. |
| 02:29.20 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/search?&q=from+the+shadows#spells good luck |
| 02:29.39 | Gnarfoz | and report back when you find out |
| 02:29.47 | Gnarfoz | or our rogue is staying benched |
| 02:30.04 | kd3 | home from work, beer #1 is open |
| 02:30.20 | kd3 | wonders how many will join it on his counter tonight? |
| 02:30.33 | Stanzilla | how long until the last voting stations close? |
| 02:30.38 | Semlar | the buff is called from the shadows? |
| 02:30.38 | Thunder_Child | All of them? |
| 02:30.47 | kd3 | the west coast states close in 90 minutes or so |
| 02:30.57 | kd3 | HI/AK are later, but we basically know how they're going to go |
| 02:31.14 | Semlar | trump trump trump |
| 02:31.42 | Semlar | alright so it triggers a series of attacks? |
| 02:31.44 | kd3 | it's a good thing I'm going on a cruise starting friday... I may forget to get back on the ship at one of the ports of call |
| 02:32.45 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: there's no visible anything. it's all just audio. SHANK SHANK SHANK |
| 02:33.09 | Semlar | but the poisoned daggers should show up as an attack |
| 02:33.18 | Semlar | i assume when they proc they make the noise |
| 02:33.49 | Gnarfoz | if there's a visual, I'd hope that's flagged as "player only" (which the sound needs to be flagged as, too) |
| 02:34.01 | Torhal | kd3: You'll have to fake amnesia so they won't know what country to deport you to. |
| 02:34.14 | Stanzilla | Chance of Winning Presidency53%Trump |
| 02:34.17 | Semlar | it's called from the shadows in details, but it doesn't list its spell ID |
| 02:35.17 | Gnarfoz | https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fBGvRJHyqFpzW62Z#type=damage-done&source=22&fight=2&ability=192434 |
| 02:36.32 | Gnarfoz | at least that's what does the actual damage, the spell seems to be composited out of a bunch of spells ^^ |
| 02:39.09 | Stanzilla | Semlar: its a golden trait |
| 02:39.27 | Gnarfoz | (are you scrolled up?) |
| 02:39.34 | Stanzilla | no |
| 02:40.25 | Gnarfoz | I still don't see how LibArtifactData is triggering the issue (if it is), I don't see any occurences of ARTIFACT_UPDATE without the arg being true. That's the only path where it doesn't go through his safeguards https://github.com/Rainrider/LibArtifactData-1.0/blob/master/LibArtifactData-1.0.lua#L84 - but those are not enough, apparently? |
| 02:41.18 | Gnarfoz | anyway, at least a little sleep before work... and a day at the office probably consisting mostly of "how could they vote for THAT one?!" |
| 02:42.33 | Stanzilla | Chance of Winning Presidency58%Trump |
| 02:44.44 | Semlar | alright i have an idea |
| 02:45.03 | Semlar | just mute sound effects when from the shadows starts |
| 02:45.15 | kullervo | replace the sound file |
| 02:45.22 | Semlar | yeah, what's the sound file |
| 02:45.42 | Stanzilla | detecting vendetta on the target is probably easier? |
| 02:47.29 | Gnarfoz | I'm not muting everything just for some rogue shit |
| 02:47.29 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 02:47.37 | Semlar | which would you rather hear |
| 02:48.00 | Gnarfoz | good point, but the nuclear option is benching the rogue |
| 02:48.06 | Gnarfoz | or making them play some other spec |
| 02:48.06 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 02:50.10 | Stanzilla | the sounds is not that bad |
| 02:51.13 | Semlar | you should just gkick them |
| 02:51.32 | Semlar | i can make an addon that kicks them from the group when they cast that ability |
| 02:51.41 | kullervo | hahaha |
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| 02:52.21 | Semlar | that should keep the sound from playing |
| 02:54.23 | Gnarfoz | certainly helps drive the message home |
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| 03:09.05 | Stanzilla | 73% trump |
| 03:09.08 | Stanzilla | dis gon be gud |
| 03:09.24 | Thunder_Child | kd3: What number are you on? |
| 03:09.41 | kd3 | 538 just shifted to 55/44 clinton |
| 03:09.51 | kd3 | it was 70-something/20-something a few minutes ago |
| 03:10.17 | Thunder_Child | I meant drink, like I care about the election. |
| 03:10.25 | kd3 | 2 so far |
| 03:10.34 | kd3 | trying to pace myself |
| 03:11.11 | Thunder_Child | You should drink every time the numbers change. |
| 03:11.27 | kd3 | I still need to go to work tomorrow |
| 03:12.14 | Thunder_Child | Work remotely. |
| 03:12.31 | kd3 | can't quite prep hardware over the internet |
| 03:12.37 | Stanzilla | the jitter on the nytimes is random generated btw |
| 03:13.05 | Thunder_Child | Huh, for some reason, I thought you did software. |
| 03:13.26 | Stanzilla | wat |
| 03:13.30 | kd3 | I'm in a 7-person startup. there are many hats worn |
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| 03:19.20 | nebula | i still see it as 71.4/28.6 |
| 03:19.27 | nebula | on 538 |
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| 03:19.37 | kd3 | that's the senate race |
| 03:19.53 | nebula | senate is 50/49 |
| 03:19.58 | kd3 | https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2016-election-results-coverage/ |
| 03:20.21 | nebula | ah |
| 03:27.22 | Stanzilla | holds nebula's hand |
| 03:27.55 | jnwhiteh | I'm shared |
| 03:27.57 | jnwhiteh | err scared |
| 03:28.10 | jnwhiteh | New York Times seems to be ahead of 538 this year: http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president |
| 03:28.24 | jnwhiteh | 82% |
| 03:28.33 | Alram | 538 changed their rules just now |
| 03:28.43 | Alram | they were only listing called states earlier |
| 03:28.57 | Alram | now they are listing too close to call too, which changed things up a bit |
| 03:29.04 | Alram | for the worse |
| 03:29.12 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 03:29.14 | nebula | i'll be sad if trump get mi and wi i'll be sad |
| 03:29.18 | nebula | erm |
| 03:29.20 | nebula | yea |
| 03:29.38 | nebula | thats what i get for typing, looking away, then continuing to type |
| 03:29.49 | jnwhiteh | it's 4am |
| 03:30.09 | jnwhiteh | I can't sleep =( |
| 03:31.27 | kullervo | it's 5:30am, I'm practising tai chi for fun |
| 03:32.22 | Stanzilla | Chance of Winning Presidency 87%Trump |
| 03:33.45 | fewyn | this election is making me sick |
| 03:33.59 | nebula | yeeeeeea |
| 03:34.17 | fewyn | how the fuck is this even happening |
| 03:34.27 | kullervo | we live in the bizarro universe now |
| 03:34.46 | Stanzilla | ask your friendly neighbourhood racist |
| 03:35.14 | Iriel | No voting rights act protections, idiotic 3rd party votes, media addicted to the trump publicity drug... |
| 03:35.17 | Iriel | the list is quite long |
| 03:36.14 | jnwhiteh | BUT THE EMAILS IRIEL |
| 03:36.16 | jnwhiteh | THE EMAILS |
| 03:36.26 | Torhal | My summation: MURRICA |
| 03:36.34 | Iriel | HC just got VA |
| 03:36.40 | Iriel | 538 back to 52% clinton |
| 03:37.06 | jnwhiteh | NYT raised Trump to 88% |
| 03:38.54 | Semlar | i can't figure out how you're supposed to turn in Odyn's Favor in trial of valor |
| 03:39.53 | Semlar | i assume you're supposed to be able to talk to him after you beat him, but that doesn't appear to be the case |
| 03:43.53 | Stanzilla | 92 |
| 03:44.04 | Stanzilla | certainly looks like you guys got yourself a trump |
| 03:44.05 | Semlar | the "raid finder" version of http://www.wowhead.com/item=143515 is dropping in my normal raid |
| 03:44.59 | fewyn | i'm watching http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2016-election-results-coverage/?ex_cid=extra_banner |
| 03:45.43 | Iriel | I'm curious how CO being called for clinton made the 538 projection for clinton go DOWN |
| 03:45.49 | Alram | NYT 93%, 538 80% |
| 03:46.04 | Torhal | Alram: That 80% is for senate |
| 03:46.09 | jnwhiteh | NYT is being updated very rapidly |
| 03:46.09 | Torhal | Shows 50% president |
| 03:46.14 | Alram | oh thank jesus |
| 03:46.18 | Alram | thank you Torhal |
| 03:46.40 | nebula | nyt has trump taking pa wi mi, which would pretty much end it |
| 03:46.49 | mckenziemc | i just hope we get a third party eligible for significant campaign funding next time to shake things up |
| 03:46.55 | jnwhiteh | It's still 93% for Trump winning |
| 03:49.36 | Stanzilla | when will the counting be finished? |
| 03:49.47 | mckenziemc | uh |
| 03:49.52 | kd3 | some time tomorrow |
| 03:50.11 | kd3 | barring way, way to close to call counts, we should know in about 4 hours |
| 03:50.20 | mckenziemc | plus don't the electors vote the next week |
| 03:50.43 | nebula | it's very very uncommon for electors to not follow the popular vote |
| 03:51.01 | Semlar | rebels |
| 03:51.21 | mckenziemc | my point's just that counting's not done till then, in a sense :p |
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| 03:51.57 | nebula | they were talking about the ohio electors voting for evan mcmullin, which would make a contested election weird |
| 03:52.05 | nebula | but that seems doubtful now |
| 03:52.15 | plaw | immigration.ca |
| 03:52.17 | plaw | Warning: mysql_select_db() expects parameter 2 to be resource, boolean given in /home/colinrs/public_html/libraries/joomla/database/database/mysql.php on line 599 |
| 03:52.20 | plaw | heh |
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| 04:11.51 | Cairenn | I think some of you may need this link: https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/how-to-build-an-igloo/9780393732153-item.html?ikwsec=Home&ikwidx=0 |
| 04:12.55 | mckenziemc | legal refuge first, igloo later |
| 04:13.10 | Torhal | :/ |
| 04:16.12 | _Kee | 58 % Chance Trump wins. / 40 % Chance Clinton wins. |
| 04:16.18 | _Kee | it changes often. |
| 04:16.38 | nebula | she lost nc so it dropped |
| 04:17.44 | _Kee | I am not familiar with USA nor it's voting system, but I heard results will have a huge impact in my country too. |
| 04:18.21 | mckenziemc | regression toward the mean does not apply here |
| 04:18.24 | Semlar | well, you don't have any idea who's going to win until you actually get all of the states in |
| 04:18.48 | mckenziemc | not true |
| 04:19.00 | Semlar | i think california might be important |
| 04:19.02 | Semlar | but maybe not |
| 04:19.22 | kd3 | no, cali was never in play |
| 04:19.27 | |Jelly| | ^ |
| 04:19.39 | kd3 | I rather enjoyed sending my presidential vote off into the ether |
| 04:19.41 | mckenziemc | what's our % for clinton |
| 04:19.47 | Semlar | 100% |
| 04:19.50 | kd3 | 538 says 58/40 trump |
| 04:19.59 | mckenziemc | for cali specifically |
| 04:20.14 | kd3 | cali was called for clinton at 8:01 PST |
| 04:20.19 | nebula | cali was 60/30 clinton |
| 04:20.24 | Alram | even if clinton gets everything thats a bit blue on the map |
| 04:20.29 | Alram | and gets florida after recount |
| 04:20.31 | Alram | she wont make it |
| 04:20.55 | Semlar | lol, all hail our next commander in chief donald trump |
| 04:21.15 | Alram | atleast california can smoke weed now |
| 04:21.18 | Alram | they'll need it |
| 04:23.50 | |Jelly| | too bad we can't buy it for a year |
| 04:34.38 | Gethe | hugs Cairenn |
| 04:34.46 | Cairenn | hugs Gethe |
| 04:37.01 | Torhal | excavates a crawlspace under Cairenn's house to live in. |
| 04:38.06 | Cairenn | You and a lot of others, Torhal |
| 04:38.24 | Torhal | Cairenn, leader of the Underworld? |
| 04:38.28 | Cairenn | heh |
| 04:38.42 | Elmoe | the Canadian immigration site is loading very slow tonight, must be an unexpected amount of traffic :p |
| 04:39.01 | Cairenn | It's already crashed a number of times |
| 04:39.11 | Torhal | If it makes it easier, I'll make my own Nickelback/Bieber mashup tees. |
| 04:39.11 | Cairenn | Co-incidence? I'm thinking not |
| 04:41.27 | plaw | i got a couple spare beds @ my place over here if your joint gets too full, Cairenn |
| 04:41.57 | mckenziemc | dammit Torhal, i was planning on moving my spiders there |
| 04:42.12 | Torhal | :/ |
| 04:43.16 | mckenziemc | they wouldn't like an igloo |
| 04:44.08 | kd3 | Well, the Cubs winning the World Series was supposed to be one of the signs of the apocalypse... |
| 04:44.25 | |Jelly| | Cairenn, where do we sign up for the underground railroad when Trump's men come for the people who voted against him? |
| 04:45.10 | Cairenn | I'm just ... wtf USA? |
| 04:45.18 | kd3 | so are we |
| 04:45.18 | Cairenn | I'm stunned, completely stunned. |
| 04:45.33 | Gethe | brexit 2.0 |
| 04:45.34 | nebula | we're a bunch of fear mongering bigots, apparently |
| 04:48.45 | plaw | *cough much of the world has been trying to tell the US this for some time... |
| 04:49.00 | Corrodias | if you didn't know, now's your chance to find out |
| 04:49.30 | plaw | it's like when we elected abbott 'oh, australia's a country for conservative christian white men who knew?!' |
| 04:50.02 | Funkeh` | what does being white have to do with it |
| 04:50.27 | Cairenn | ... |
| 04:52.03 | Corrodias | with being a conservative christian? |
| 04:52.31 | Funkeh` | with anything |
| 04:52.46 | fewyn | i still do not know why the fuck my mother, sister, sister-in-law all voted for trump |
| 04:52.48 | Corrodias | anything? well... being white has a heck of a lot to do with your race |
| 04:53.05 | fewyn | like do they not listen to a single word coming out of his mouth |
| 04:53.10 | Funkeh` | ethnicity and gender are not idologies that can be used to predict anything |
| 04:53.18 | Funkeh` | religion and political stance are |
| 04:53.21 | Corrodias | and affirmative action, and the chances that you live in certain areas... |
| 04:54.07 | Funkeh` | lol SJW meter is ringing |
| 04:54.50 | _Kee | 84/14 @538 wow! |
| 04:54.54 | Corrodias | oh yeah. real wacko leftist here because i acknowledge that caucasian is a race, eh? |
| 04:55.57 | plaw | Funkeh`: my bad, which part of australia you from? |
| 04:56.00 | Corrodias | if you just want a silly fight, post on 4chan. let me know if you have a question you want an actual answer to. |
| 04:56.07 | plaw | had always assumed Funkeh` was not .au |
| 04:56.20 | Funkeh` | Im not |
| 04:56.45 | Funkeh` | Im just wondering why you're trying to correlate gender or race to a political ideology |
| 04:57.20 | Gethe | because there *is* a correlation |
| 04:57.34 | Torhal | Cairenn: http://www.businessinsider.com/canadian-immigration-site-crash-election-2016-11 |
| 04:57.35 | Thunder_Child | Or at least it may have started that way. |
| 04:57.43 | mckenziemc | _Kee why is it surprising that there would be high prediction value of one outcome occuring once most of the contributing factors are known? |
| 04:59.03 | plaw | Funkeh`: you seem to know an awful lot about .au politics leading into the election of abbott, for someone who doesn't live here. |
| 04:59.32 | Funkeh` | ...wat? |
| 04:59.39 | _Kee | idk it's completelly different than in my country, it was like 48-52/48-52 for the very most of the time. |
| 04:59.44 | Funkeh` | how did you pick that up O.o |
| 04:59.47 | plaw | Funkeh`: gender and ethnicity was a not insubstantial amount of the debate leading to his election. |
| 05:00.05 | Funkeh` | whos election |
| 05:00.14 | plaw | Funkeh`: so to suggest it was optherwise, is just nuts. |
| 05:00.33 | Funkeh` | dude I asked a question and you've formed an entire storyline, wth |
| 05:00.48 | Corrodias | could it be Abbot, the PM who was just being talked about? |
| 05:00.48 | plaw | the election ofd the australiasn PM to which I referred back there when you asked me 'what's being white have to do with it' |
| 05:01.08 | Funkeh` | that is, indeed, a question |
| 05:01.15 | Funkeh` | how that leads to a massive assumption I don't know |
| 05:01.23 | nebula | citing SJWs is like the new godwin's law |
| 05:02.04 | Funkeh` | Corrodias, I don't even know who that is |
| 05:02.07 | plaw | Funkeh`: as I said, the debate and 10 years lewading into the election of abbott explains a heck of a lot. |
| 05:02.11 | Corrodias | i guess if you're not a white supremacist, you're SJW now |
| 05:02.27 | Funkeh` | seriously? |
| 05:02.30 | plaw | what the heck, you're asking how it has to do with his electionb yet you don't know anything about his election |
| 05:02.35 | plaw | gives up |
| 05:02.45 | Funkeh` | yes, that's what you do when you want to learn |
| 05:02.48 | Funkeh` | you ask |
| 05:03.27 | plaw | and I said.. and you told me I was making upo stories and stuff |
| 05:03.28 | plaw | so |
| 05:03.30 | plaw | shrugs |
| 05:03.49 | Funkeh` | you were making assumption about me after asking a question |
| 05:04.27 | plaw | i was making an assumption because you made the assumption that his election had nothing to do with race or gender |
| 05:04.39 | plaw | aside from the detail that you think race and gender are ideologies... |
| 05:04.41 | plaw | http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/03/23/1226026/932862-abbott-new.jpg |
| 05:04.46 | Funkeh` | I never made any assumption |
| 05:04.50 | Funkeh` | I asked you a question |
| 05:05.45 | Corrodias | (does the assumption about me being SJW count?) |
| 05:05.49 | Funkeh` | what does that picture mean? :o |
| 05:06.25 | Funkeh` | Corrodias, are you also australian? |
| 05:06.33 | Corrodias | i'm not |
| 05:07.08 | Funkeh` | are you "in-tune" with what happened? |
| 05:07.46 | plaw | so, how 'bout them cubs? |
| 05:08.10 | Corrodias | abbott's election? not really, no. i would assume he got the most votes. he wasn't well liked by folks on the internet a couple of years later. that's about all i know. |
| 05:08.54 | plaw | lol this guy telling all the Americans to bugger off https://twitter.com/bernietb |
| 05:29.14 | plaw | stockmarkets down bitcoin up. but how are the WoW markets handling it?! |
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| 05:34.52 | Semlar | wowtoken through the roof |
| 05:34.59 | mckenziemc | how is trade chat handling it |
| 05:35.27 | Semlar | i wouldn't know, i have something that filters out virtually every message from trade chat |
| 05:37.56 | Corrodias | lol |
| 05:39.27 | nebula | trump supporters trolling the fuck out of everyone |
| 05:40.23 | plaw | ah, not bitcoin up. dollar crashing. |
| 05:40.43 | plaw | makes sense. so wowtoken up would be similar |
| 05:41.26 | mckenziemc | dollar went down because of investment into Clinton but no payout :p |
| 05:43.03 | plaw | meanwhile, from NZ immigration: https://twitter.com/MPI_NZ/status/795838252762599424 |
| 05:43.15 | plaw | mckenziemc: hah |
| 05:49.00 | plaw | harambe with 11000 write-ins |
| 05:57.42 | Arrowmaster | is it over yet? |
| 05:57.55 | Semlar | may as well be |
| 05:58.03 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president |
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| 05:58.52 | Arrowmaster | yeah id been watching that earlier, so no miracles while i was driving home... |
| 05:59.12 | Arrowmaster | whats the easiest progressive country to get a work visa in? |
| 06:04.55 | Cairenn | http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/ |
| 06:05.14 | Cairenn | However, the site has been down as much as up tonight, no surprise |
| 06:06.43 | mckenziemc | http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president Change from 2012 o.o |
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| 06:19.50 | bluspacecow | #dumbprogrammerquestion : Can DLLs be loaded while you have a program open ? or do they need to be loaded when you start your program? |
| 06:21.24 | Iriel | bluspacecow: i'm not sure about windows specifically, but dynamic library loading is a thing |
| 06:21.31 | mckenziemc | how can you call yourself a programmer with a question like that, bluspacecow |
| 06:21.41 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 06:21.43 | Iriel | https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms686944(v=vs.85).aspx |
| 06:21.55 | bluspacecow | I'm more of a banging rocks together bash script compiler |
| 06:22.49 | bluspacecow | ah ty Iriel |
| 06:24.14 | Iriel | Back when i dealt with such things directly (and we're talking 20+ years ago), there were specific requirements on how the libraries had to be compiled. |
| 06:24.23 | Iriel | They may be defaults these days for all I know |
| 06:24.38 | bluspacecow | battle.net voice chat uses Vivox SDK DLL. Just trying to figure out if it's possible for them to only load the DLL when entering a chat room where voice is active |
| 06:25.02 | bluspacecow | instead of going into one and going "woopsy crashy" when trying to do voice chat stuff. |
| 06:26.08 | bluspacecow | just thinking why they didn't put in a voice disable radio button that nevers loads the voice stuff into v1.5.2 of the BDA. vs just giving you a "none" option on your microphone choices. |
| 06:26.29 | Arrowmaster | stock market isnt even open and its crashing worse than 9/11 |
| 06:26.52 | Iriel | Is the issue that the DLL is loaded, or that it's doing something unpleasant when it tries to open devices? |
| 06:27.29 | bluspacecow | nah. the issue is I don't know how to measure how much resources its using :P |
| 06:27.47 | bluspacecow | got some guy being all "but I don't even want my resources wasted on voice stuff" on the fourms |
| 06:28.35 | Iriel | A DLL doesn't necessarily consume any actual resources unless it starts allocating memory |
| 06:28.43 | Iriel | Since it can be paged in from disk as necessary |
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| 07:34.21 | Torhal | I need an adult, Cairenn. |
| 07:34.34 | Cairenn | no |
| 07:34.40 | Cairenn | I refuse to adult right now |
| 07:34.44 | Cairenn | I'm going to unicorn |
| 07:34.54 | Torhal | Oh. |
| 07:34.58 | Cairenn | Sorry |
| 07:35.21 | Torhal | I suppose I can see how that could be viewed as me asking you to adult, but really I was just stating that I need one. |
| 07:35.44 | Cairenn | Unless you need an adult for something other than the insanity occurring in your country, in which case I'm willing to discuss it |
| 07:36.04 | Torhal | That actually requires a few million adults. |
| 07:36.10 | Cairenn | Oh, okay |
| 07:36.17 | Torhal | But yes. |
| 07:36.34 | Cairenn | Why do you need an adult, since you aren't specifically asking for me to be one |
| 07:36.59 | Torhal | To tell me that we didn't just elect a "reality" TV madman. |
| 07:37.40 | Cairenn | Oh, sorry, it is about the insanity occurring in your country, nope, going back to being unicorn, good luck on your search for an adult |
| 07:37.49 | Torhal | :O |
| 07:38.21 | Cairenn | Frankly, I think finding unicorn is easier at the moment, apparently |
| 07:38.33 | Cairenn | at least in the USA |
| 07:39.53 | Torhal | So I should start digging in my back yard, then? |
| 07:41.20 | Cairenn | Aaand, they are reporting that she just called him and conceeded |
| 07:41.29 | Cairenn | excuse me while I go throw up now |
| 07:45.43 | Trela | Torhal for President! |
| 07:45.56 | Torhal | Oh, dear lord no! |
| 07:46.16 | Torhal | My Foreign Policy: Fuck it. |
| 07:46.18 | Torhal | Domestic policy: Fuck it. |
| 07:47.09 | bluspacecow | Noooooooooooooo |
| 07:47.27 | bluspacecow | I needed you to be my adult Torhal |
| 07:47.28 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 07:47.45 | Torhal | Bad choice. |
| 07:48.31 | bluspacecow | TorhalPresiden - World War 3 - "Can I fuck it?" |
| 07:48.31 | Gethe | here, have a cat video: http://thebestcatpage.com/2016/11/03/watch-brave-tiny-bengal-kitten-takes-huge-massive-maine-coon-cat/ |
| 07:49.47 | Cairenn | Can someone explain to me wtf just happened? I ... am expecting to wake up from what can only be a nightmare |
| 07:50.08 | Torhal | I have no idea, and I'm probably glad I don't know. |
| 07:50.15 | bluspacecow | lets all leave our cars at home and get blindly drunk |
| 07:50.36 | bluspacecow | we'll take along non drinking minders so we can get home |
| 07:50.41 | Semlar | america is canada's mexico |
| 07:50.49 | bluspacecow | probably need little leashes on us so we don't end up somewhere strange |
| 07:50.58 | Gethe | http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/ |
| 07:51.02 | _Kee | Trump 100% chance to win @538 |
| 07:51.10 | nebula | hilary conceded |
| 07:51.11 | bluspacecow | fuck it who am i kidding. we're going to turn up 3 states over married to a horse called george |
| 07:51.11 | AcidWeb | Well... Apparently it is time to start building Vaults. |
| 07:51.12 | nebula | it's over |
| 07:51.55 | blu|shower | washing all the Trump vote ickiness off |
| 07:52.54 | Trela | I am actually surprised. Two days earlier Hillary was trending in the lead. |
| 07:53.19 | Cairenn | Trump as Pres, Republican Senate, Republican House, get to appoint 2-3 SCOTUS ... fuck |
| 07:53.26 | nebula | yup. |
| 07:54.01 | Semlar | don't worry, we have a system of checks and balances |
| 07:54.24 | Semlar | i learned this in government |
| 07:55.45 | Semlar | for the last 8 years the way it worked was that nothing ever got done |
| 07:55.56 | Cairenn | re-read what I just said - Rep Pres, House, Senate and SCOTUS - what checks & balances? |
| 07:56.01 | Semlar | and now one party controls all of the checks |
| 07:56.22 | Trela | Yep, they will check and balance accordingly! |
| 07:56.25 | Semlar | should be wonderful |
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| 07:58.08 | Semlar | entertaining, at any rate |
| 07:59.27 | Mr_Rabies | as terrible as cracked is, gethe pretty well nails it here: <Gethe> http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/ |
| 08:02.12 | Trela | With a click bait article. "WAT" |
| 08:02.35 | Mr_Rabies | pretty much |
| 08:02.38 | Mr_Rabies | i mean, that's cracked |
| 08:02.49 | Mr_Rabies | but the points are actually pretty valid |
| 08:03.21 | Mr_Rabies | i know because i know at least one person that voted for him for each reason here |
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| 08:11.59 | blucleancow | Mr_Rabies: except for the people that voted for Harambe |
| 08:13.24 | znf | WTF USA |
| 08:13.53 | Cairenn | ^^^ |
| 08:14.36 | Cairenn | I'm just ... I'm not even upset any more, I'm just numb, I can not believe you guys (USA) elected that monster. |
| 08:15.00 | Cairenn | I'm going to go to bed now. I'll be back in 8 years (and however many months) |
| 08:15.06 | nevcairiel | i'm not all that convinced hillary would've been much of a better choice in the long run |
| 08:15.15 | blucleancow | numb like this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXYiU_JCYtU |
| 08:15.15 | Semlar | don't worry, we can't believe we elected him either |
| 08:15.34 | blucleancow | and not ya know pink floyd comfortably numb |
| 08:15.38 | Cairenn | Okay, be very careful, nev, I can become angry again quickly |
| 08:15.54 | blucleancow | like a redhead ! |
| 08:16.14 | nevcairiel | americans basically only had terrible choices, they killed all the better candidates way early |
| 08:16.29 | Torhal | I think we should try this: "Ok, don't panic⦠If we hold the North and South Pole down simultaneously for eight seconds, it'll automatically restore to factory settings." |
| 08:17.34 | blucleancow | But the North Pole has badly bugged DLLs |
| 08:17.44 | blucleancow | and the south pole runs on legacy code |
| 08:17.46 | blucleancow | :( |
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| 08:28.23 | Andols | What a morning to wake up to! |
| 08:28.40 | Semlar | go back to sleep |
| 08:28.56 | Trela | Andols: You are dreaming. Go back to bed. |
| 08:29.34 | Andols | If only... |
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| 08:47.49 | znf | make america a wall! |
| 08:52.32 | Semlar | i don't ever want to be told i need experience for a job ever again |
| 08:52.57 | nebula | that only works if you're rich and/or famous |
| 08:53.33 | nebula | and/or connected |
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| 09:11.25 | znf | poor Semlar |
| 09:11.27 | znf | go to canada |
| 09:11.40 | Semlar | canada is so far away |
| 09:13.37 | nevcairiel | go to cuba |
| 09:14.10 | Semlar | would they take a refugee |
| 09:22.17 | znf | http://file-9gag-lol.9cache.com/file/28ekK318Q8/ezgif-3056121738.gif |
| 09:27.33 | znf | Two dates that America will never forget: 11/9 & 9/11. |
| 09:27.35 | znf | too soon? |
| 09:27.56 | NuSuey | lol |
| 09:30.30 | jaxdahl | that's cute, you think he's going to do it himself |
| 09:35.31 | nebula | that's cute, you think humor is literal |
| 09:58.35 | VIad | grats on supremer overlord trump |
| 09:58.41 | VIad | supreme* |
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| 10:14.47 | Gnarfoz | hm, mmoc boss guide points to gamepedia instead of icy veins, and kpoptosis is the guide author? today is indeed opposite day |
| 10:15.50 | karl_w_w | http://www.smh.com.au/victoria/man-faces-9000-fine-for-using-a-drone-to-pick-up-a-bunnings-sausage-20161108-gsl3q2.html |
| 10:22.34 | nevcairiel | no matter why you do something, breaking laws is breaking laws =p |
| 10:24.40 | blushoppingcow | No it's bizarro day |
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| 11:21.14 | Gnarfoz | ~logs |
| 11:21.14 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
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| 12:27.38 | Ballmer_Peak | Good Morning gods of the WoW UI. |
| 12:27.56 | mitch0 | good morning to you, too |
| 12:28.04 | mitch0 | :P |
| 12:29.53 | Ballmer_Peak | so I have a question: is it possible to embed another addon, created by someone else, into an addon? |
| 12:31.21 | Ballmer_Peak | I don't think this is possible, since the addon in question is pretty advanced and makes it's own frames via lua. |
| 12:31.56 | Ballmer_Peak | plus there's a thing about ethics (my own) and I feel like it would be wrong, even with giving credit. |
| 12:32.30 | Torhal | It wouldn't be possible without altering the original, and the license would have to allow it. |
| 12:32.46 | Torhal | You can't just slap an AddOn into an AddOn and say "Work!" |
| 12:32.53 | nebula | watch me. |
| 12:33.10 | Torhal | slaps nebula into Stanzilla and says "WeakAuras!" |
| 12:33.21 | nebula | stack overflows |
| 12:34.46 | Ballmer_Peak | doesn't look like this addon has been modified since 2014 |
| 12:34.53 | Ballmer_Peak | oh 2010 |
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| 12:36.28 | Ballmer_Peak | I don't think I could adapt it even if I wanted to, it's another super advanced one from my perspective. |
| 12:39.39 | blushoppingcow | which one is it ? |
| 12:39.46 | Ballmer_Peak | LockSmith |
| 12:40.10 | bluwithpickinmou | lag! |
| 12:41.03 | Andols | hickinmou? |
| 12:42.09 | bluspacecow | was meant to be a toothpick in mouth alusion |
| 12:42.11 | bluspacecow | NVM! |
| 12:42.13 | Ballmer_Peak | Besides, although this addon I'm writing has the ability to be useful to rogues, it's also useful to other classes, so even if they don't have stealth, the button will let them do profession kinda things, like make pigments from raw materials, or prospect from ores, or combine lower tiers of leather, etc. |
| 12:44.19 | bluspacecow | Heh. Ammos work on an All rights reserve license. Looks likes hes abadoned it. |
| 12:44.50 | bluspacecow | Which part were you going to use. Maybe someone here can suggest a better way of doing things (given LockSmith was last updated around Cata) |
| 12:48.22 | VIad | older addons usually have poorer coding standards and might even used deprecated functions :p |
| 12:48.25 | Ballmer_Peak | I think the bag scanner is the only thing I'll use, but I'll have to modify it extensively to work for my purposes. |
| 12:49.16 | Semlar | clamstacker |
| 12:49.54 | VIad | oystermuncher |
| 12:50.28 | bluspacecow | i think semlar was suggesting it as an addon you could study the code for. |
| 12:50.29 | VIad | tbh clam>oyster but thats me |
| 12:50.46 | Ballmer_Peak | It's not on wowinterface, I'll check curse |
| 12:50.47 | VIad | he got me thinking about good food |
| 12:50.58 | bluspacecow | https://wow.curseforge.com/licenses/5-bsd-license/ |
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| 12:51.03 | bluspacecow | https://wow.curseforge.com/addons/clamstacker/ |
| 12:51.36 | bluspacecow | could of poked perl but i dunno if the bots around tonight. ALso couldn't remember what passphrase to give it |
| 12:51.45 | bluspacecow | ~luser bluspacecow |
| 12:53.05 | Semlar | ~cowsnack |
| 12:56.11 | Ballmer_Peak | Steak? someone say steak? |
| 12:56.55 | Ballmer_Peak | oi, clamstacker looks like another pretty advanced one. |
| 12:59.19 | Ballmer_Peak | they've got... 1553 lines of database code :| I think I can make my addon figure out what's openable without the database. |
| 12:59.36 | Semlar | you'd think that |
| 12:59.50 | VIad | ^ xd |
| 13:00.21 | Ballmer_Peak | I'll try anything once. |
| 13:00.23 | Semlar | you'd be surprised how slow tooltip scanning is when you try to scan your entire inventory in response to some bag events |
| 13:00.49 | VIad | I am still grumpy at blizz that their default bag search only searches like names |
| 13:01.02 | VIad | the labels "artifact power" or "champion equipment" are not searchable by default |
| 13:01.14 | VIad | ^ so you need tooltip scan, but its slow af if you got a lot of items |
| 13:01.32 | VIad | at login can even freeze up until it caches everything :p |
| 13:01.42 | VIad | first time I perform a search |
| 13:01.45 | Ballmer_Peak | I think I'm grumpy at blizzard for not simply having an api command to tell you what the last thing is that went into your bag, and from whence it came. |
| 13:01.58 | VIad | that should be the bag event |
| 13:02.06 | VIad | they have one for added item in bag type thing |
| 13:02.17 | VIad | but think the arguments are quite limited |
| 13:02.19 | Semlar | it knows what items you recently obtained because it highlights them in your bag |
| 13:02.36 | Ballmer_Peak | yeah, that's a new thing I've noticed. |
| 13:03.14 | Ballmer_Peak | But my addon already tracks things that go into your bag from loot. |
| 13:03.47 | Ballmer_Peak | won't track from any other source though. ignores mail, ignores bank/bag transfers. |
| 13:04.08 | VIad | bank/bag is same system, counts as just "your inventory" |
| 13:04.30 | VIad | unlike guild bank, mail, and void storage |
| 13:05.12 | Ballmer_Peak | so if I simply create an array of things that match possible lootable objects from the tool tip as they are looted, I'll have my list, just won't know where they are in the bag. |
| 13:06.00 | VIad | there is an event that fires when stuff land in your bags |
| 13:06.12 | VIad | and I think it had bag/slot info |
| 13:07.25 | VIad | havent seen this before :p C_NewItems |
| 13:08.09 | NuSuey | there is never enough facepalms for projects like this.. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/revenge-3d-open-world-team-based-rpg-game-fantasy#/ watch it.. enjoy :) |
| 13:08.18 | NuSuey | (meant the video) |
| 13:09.05 | Ballmer_Peak | http://pastebin.com/zx0QbtRt line 152 triggers on event, and at 167 I get itemID's, quantity, and value. |
| 13:10.54 | Ballmer_Peak | So if I add in another array, I think I should be able to pull the tooltip data as it's going into my bag. |
| 13:12.21 | VIad | when you give a frame a name, like PickedP, that is also a global pointing to that widget |
| 13:12.34 | Ballmer_Peak | yep |
| 13:12.41 | Ballmer_Peak | that code is a little old. |
| 13:12.55 | VIad | a heads up if you want to call a frame generic terms that other might use :p I just leave the names nil unless I have to give it a name |
| 13:13.12 | Ballmer_Peak | I pasted it when I was about to ask a question last night, then realized I had to fix a lot of stuff. |
| 13:13.31 | Ballmer_Peak | most of my frame settings/changes are now called by their global name. |
| 13:13.43 | Ballmer_Peak | it was causing issues the other way. |
| 13:14.43 | VIad | should be a competition to write the least debuggable friendly code |
| 13:14.58 | Ballmer_Peak | lol, that's easy. |
| 13:15.11 | Ballmer_Peak | just take a file, and make it all one line. |
| 13:15.11 | VIad | like, write it on purpose that it bugs and the compiler isnt able to give you helpful info what the issue is |
| 13:15.53 | Ballmer_Peak | It's friendly because it's only '1' line. |
| 13:16.03 | VIad | also if you dont want to bother fixing errors |
| 13:16.05 | VIad | just pcall |
| 13:18.31 | VIad | you are going to thank me later, Ballmer_Peak |
| 13:18.59 | Ballmer_Peak | why? are you rewriting my paste into something awesome? |
| 13:19.14 | Ballmer_Peak | I suppose I should paste a recent version of the code first then. |
| 13:19.14 | VIad | if you might call something that might try to do stuff the game will return nil for or anything, just pcall(function) and if it fails it won't error |
| 13:20.08 | Ballmer_Peak | well, tossing errors out is fine. I'd rather know it works top to bottom than skirt some corners. |
| 13:20.18 | VIad | it was a joke |
| 13:20.37 | VIad | pcall should only be used in situations there is no other way, can like validate user input :p |
| 13:20.55 | Ballmer_Peak | ahh. |
| 13:20.56 | VIad | but never use it cover your ass because you coded something poorly and it errors sometimes :p |
| 13:21.18 | Ballmer_Peak | hmm. I had a random error yesterday. |
| 13:21.33 | Ballmer_Peak | I looked at my addon at just the right time to catch a bug. |
| 13:22.54 | Ballmer_Peak | I currently have 2 of three configurations set up for the addon. the first one, default one, is just the title bar, and it only shows the amount of gold profit, so if you've looted less than 1g, it doesn't even show up. |
| 13:23.21 | Ballmer_Peak | then theres an expand button, and that shows detail... |
| 13:23.32 | Ballmer_Peak | which, makes me think of something else now :| |
| 13:23.43 | Ballmer_Peak | I think that bug can become a feature. |
| 13:24.21 | Ballmer_Peak | not exactly a bug, just unintended behavior. |
| 13:26.49 | VIad | you can hookscript the UIParent frame with a function that runs your code and if errors the UIParent will be blamed for doing weird things - profit |
| 13:27.12 | VIad | maybe I should start hooking other frames and making my code run on their envs so users can direct their complaints there |
| 13:27.55 | Ballmer_Peak | speaking of 'friendly'... |
| 13:29.13 | VIad | I am joking |
| 13:29.24 | VIad | tbh dont take me seriously I am just trying to troll you :( |
| 13:29.28 | Ballmer_Peak | Obviously. |
| 13:29.41 | Ballmer_Peak | I take nothing seriously, unless someone is waving a gun in my face. |
| 13:29.50 | Ballmer_Peak | then shit gets real. |
| 13:31.00 | VIad | earth POV: everything alive on it is a shit dispenser |
| 13:31.57 | VIad | purl, how does karma work? |
| 13:32.09 | VIad | ~karma semlar |
| 13:32.09 | purl | semlar has karma of 3 |
| 13:32.41 | Ballmer_Peak | Karma is the universes determination of whether or not you are a douchebag. |
| 13:34.19 | Ballmer_Peak | well, my now feature bug... makes it look buggy. |
| 13:34.25 | Ballmer_Peak | and I'd have to modify more code. |
| 13:34.30 | Ballmer_Peak | and it's really not that important. |
| 13:34.35 | VIad | and how does purl ask the universe for semlars karma? and why is it 3? is 3 high or low compared to other karma? |
| 13:34.39 | Ballmer_Peak | so, bye feature bug! |
| 13:35.15 | Ballmer_Peak | purl, VIad wishes for you to reveal your coding. |
| 13:37.22 | VIad | ~karma Ballmer_Peak |
| 13:37.22 | purl | ballmer_peak has neutral karma |
| 13:37.34 | VIad | ~karma +viad |
| 13:37.34 | purl | +viad has neutral karma |
| 13:37.45 | VIad | assumed you use ± to edit it but nope |
| 13:38.37 | Ballmer_Peak | must be textual favors that modify purls idea of karma. |
| 13:39.08 | nevcairiel | ~VIad-- |
| 13:39.21 | Constie | ~karma Constie |
| 13:39.21 | purl | constie has neutral karma |
| 13:39.26 | Constie | Doesn't seem to be working properly. |
| 13:40.32 | VIad | ~viad++ |
| 13:40.48 | VIad | ~karma viad |
| 13:40.48 | purl | viad has karma of -1 |
| 13:40.54 | VIad | ~nevcairiel-- |
| 13:41.12 | VIad | ~karma nevcairiel |
| 13:41.12 | purl | nevcairiel has karma of 14 |
| 13:41.27 | VIad | brb making more accounts to -- karma people |
| 13:41.38 | *** join/#wowuidev Infus (~quassel@2a02:908:f635:7880:16dd:a9ff:fee9:b78) |
| 13:41.47 | Ballmer_Peak | nice, I needed a chuckle this morning. |
| 13:42.18 | blizz | ~nevcairiel-- |
| 13:42.22 | Ballmer_Peak | As I sit here staring at my addon trying to figure out what I should do next. |
| 13:43.37 | VIad | btw you can change nick and kama people, the bot doesnt control anything :p |
| 13:44.03 | VIad | nevcairiel is at 13 karma now after I did it twice |
| 13:44.32 | Ballmer_Peak | If I change my nick I'll have to re identify. that's too much effort. |
| 13:48.37 | Ballmer_Peak | I guess I should finish setting up the visual layout of each of the states the addon works in. |
| 13:49.54 | VIad | you know you can reuse widgets, show, hide, resize, move and such |
| 13:50.17 | VIad | if you need a small and normal size thing you can resize if you feel comfortable with your coding skills :p |
| 13:50.38 | Ballmer_Peak | yep, currently the main window changes size, the buttons move/rearrange show/hide parts of themselves etc. |
| 13:51.04 | VIad | you even have the new frame api to make children elements hide if outside the parent canvas |
| 13:51.12 | VIad | even easier to hide stuff than ever before |
| 13:51.28 | Ballmer_Peak | interesting. |
| 13:51.54 | Ballmer_Peak | wanna see a picture of the expanded state? |
| 13:52.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~chatzilla@ool-182d795d.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 13:52.15 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kraps) |
| 13:52.40 | VIad | sure |
| 13:55.32 | VIad | nevcairiel stop giving me - karma |
| 13:58.28 | Ballmer_Peak | ok, three images. postimg.org/image/19a789pox/ is when the addon loads, postimg.org/image/4zomj44ep/ is when there's enough gold looted to show up on the bar, and postimg.org/image/59rjoptn5/ is the expanded view |
| 13:58.42 | Ballmer_Peak | hmm |
| 13:58.47 | Ballmer_Peak | sec I'll fix the links |
| 13:59.09 | Ballmer_Peak | the bottom two work, seem to have missed a character in the first one though. |
| 14:00.04 | Ballmer_Peak | https://postimg.org/image/l9a789pox/ |
| 14:01.20 | Ballmer_Peak | On the expanded view, where I'm working now, I'm trying to decide where I want to put the other buttons, including the filter configuration, and buttons for picking/opening/resource condensing. |
| 14:03.08 | Ballmer_Peak | at a later point, the picked/looted/total buttons will display a report of everything looted in that session, how much was cash, and how much was looted items. and after the filters are setup, it will only log items that get through the filters. |
| 14:05.18 | *** join/#wowuidev ikcerog (~ikcerog@12.165.188.170) |
| 14:05.18 | Ballmer_Peak | but for now, I think I'll move those loot report buttons down to the bottom right corner, then I'll put my additional configuration buttons over them, and on the left, will be resource condensing stuff. |
| 14:11.14 | Constie | One thing to do if you haven't already is to add configuration options for how it looks. I think it looks good as it is, but it wouldn't fit visually with my current UI. |
| 14:11.20 | Constie | I don't play a Rogue, but. |
| 14:11.53 | Ballmer_Peak | everything goes with purple and gold though :P |
| 14:12.25 | Ballmer_Peak | if you aren't stealthed when you loot something, you won't even see the picked button. |
| 14:12.57 | Ballmer_Peak | hmmm. |
| 14:13.44 | Ballmer_Peak | I think I have to split my image up for the background, then I can expand/contract the bottom section |
| 14:14.15 | Ballmer_Peak | otherwise there will be a glaring space for classes that can't stealth. |
| 14:33.58 | VIad | purl is a mess, like, thousands of commands, 90% just useless :p |
| 14:34.00 | VIad | ~karmakarma |
| 14:34.00 | purl | Karma Chameleon! |
| 14:34.07 | VIad | like wtf why even add that? |
| 14:34.33 | Andols | How do you find stuff like that? |
| 14:34.45 | VIad | I just whispered purl and wrote "help" |
| 14:34.51 | Shockah|Work | sounds like the stuff my bot over on esper... except all of these useless commands are user-made at runtime |
| 14:35.08 | Shockah|Work | *stuff on my |
| 14:35.19 | VIad | then found the command "listkeys" and queried like "listkeys karma" and it spits out like 30 different karma commands |
| 14:35.51 | Andols | ~cookie |
| 14:35.58 | VIad | ~ibot, who |
| 14:36.09 | VIad | that worked in private :p |
| 14:37.37 | VIad | ~bzlist |
| 14:37.52 | VIad | <_> |
| 14:38.07 | Andols | ~cookie |
| 14:42.57 | VIad | dont know what bzlist is, but looks like some domains and ports but probably not |
| 14:43.19 | Torhal | VIad: http://bzflag.org/ |
| 14:43.32 | Torhal | You have to realize the bot is over a decade old and is in MANY channels. |
| 14:43.40 | Torhal | Anyone in any of those can add things. |
| 14:44.46 | VIad | but how can they like add commands that do stuff? |
| 14:45.03 | Constie | Very carefully. |
| 14:45.18 | VIad | sounds stupid to add a common bot that is programmable by anyone |
| 14:45.26 | VIad | so you get ~karmakarma shit |
| 14:45.28 | VIad | ~karmakarma |
| 14:45.29 | purl | Karma Chameleon! |
| 14:45.47 | Torhal | purl, VIad is <reply> Such a silly name. |
| 14:45.47 | purl | okay, Torhal |
| 14:45.55 | Shockah|Work | it works for esper VIad |
| 14:45.57 | Torhal | ~viad |
| 14:45.57 | purl | Such a silly name. |
| 14:45.59 | Ballmer_Peak | well, since the bot doesn't have Op priviledges(sp), |
| 14:46.15 | Torhal | purl, forget VIad |
| 14:46.15 | purl | Torhal: i forgot viad |
| 14:46.17 | Shockah|Work | we have my Shocky there... god the code is horrible |
| 14:46.22 | VIad | purl, forget karmakarma |
| 14:46.22 | purl | VIad: i forgot karmakarma |
| 14:46.32 | Shockah|Work | but these can run Lua/JS/PHP scripts |
| 14:46.33 | VIad | and this affects the whole server? |
| 14:46.43 | Constie | #yolo |
| 14:46.45 | Ballmer_Peak | that's hilarious. |
| 14:46.47 | Torhal | It's a single bot that can connect to multiple channels, so yes. |
| 14:46.48 | Shockah|Work | we have channel-wide and server-wide commands |
| 14:47.05 | VIad | I expected when teaching the bot it was local only |
| 14:47.10 | Shockah|Work | bot admins can also lock some commands so you can't touch them |
| 14:47.15 | Torhal | Yup |
| 14:47.20 | Torhal | ~seen VIad |
| 14:47.23 | purl | viad is currently on #wowuidev (7h 29m 48s). Has said a total of 72 messages. Is idling for 18s, last said: 'I expected when teaching the bot it was local only'. |
| 14:47.46 | Torhal | ~seen Torhal |
| 14:47.47 | purl | torhal is currently on #arl #riftuidev #wowace #wowuidev #curseforge #esouidev #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 38 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Torhal'. |
| 14:48.20 | Thunder_Child | ~torhal |
| 14:48.21 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, torhal is some long-haired freak who re-writes all of Ackis' code. |
| 14:48.23 | Torhal | Those are the channels I'm in that purl is also in. |
| 14:48.37 | Torhal | ~emulate Torhal |
| 14:48.37 | purl | Ackis, it's ALL your fault! |
| 14:48.39 | Torhal | :D |
| 14:48.42 | Phixion | lol |
| 14:48.56 | VIad | there are 90% commands no one ever uses |
| 14:49.02 | Thunder_Child | So? |
| 14:49.10 | Shockah|Work | does it bother anyone? |
| 14:49.25 | VIad | isnt it bloated? :p |
| 14:49.34 | Shockah|Work | sure, makes help bloated |
| 14:49.37 | Torhal | How do you know? You might have totally fucked someone up who uses karmakarma on a daily basis. You also destroyed the information such as who added it, and when. May have been added in 2004. |
| 14:49.43 | Shockah|Work | but imo help shouldn't include custom commands to begin with |
| 14:50.03 | VIad | imo custom stuff should be limited by default |
| 14:50.07 | Torhal | ~factinfo Torhal |
| 14:50.07 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 14:50.07 | purl | torhal -- created by Torhal <~torhal@24.96.255.115> at Thu Jun 23 23:49:49 2011 (1965 days); it has been requested 28 times, last by Thunder_Child, 1m 47s ago. |
| 14:50.09 | VIad | like I just deleted karmakarma command |
| 14:50.20 | Shockah|Work | ~factinfo karmakarma |
| 14:50.20 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 14:50.20 | purl | Shockah|Work: there's no such factoid as karmakarma |
| 14:50.32 | Shockah|Work | wait what |
| 14:50.33 | Torhal | See? You deleted the info. |
| 14:50.33 | VIad | why does it error, then tell you? :p |
| 14:50.53 | Torhal | It's an old fucking bot written in '99 in Perl. Why do you care so much? :P |
| 14:50.54 | Thunder_Child | That error started recently. |
| 14:51.09 | Ballmer_Peak | thinks it's Torhol's fault for showing VIad how to delete them. |
| 14:51.23 | Torhal | I didn't expect him to because he doesn't understand why it was there. |
| 14:51.26 | Torhal | That was just asinine. |
| 14:51.31 | *** join/#wowuidev mckenziemc (~Mark@2602:306:8339:1a20:a016:94a1:b4a5:27b7) |
| 14:51.35 | VIad | I actually knew about it from a while ago |
| 14:51.43 | Shockah|Work | inb4 "forget logs" |
| 14:52.08 | VIad | but its asinine how you can make a command and have someone else delete/change it |
| 14:52.17 | Ballmer_Peak | not understanding why things are where they are, means you are now sober, and you're looking at the awesomeness you wrote while drunk. |
| 14:52.49 | Thunder_Child | Not when it was built in a time where there were less people in irc and most of them were not fucksticks. |
| 14:53.31 | Ballmer_Peak | purl, karmakarma is <reply> Karma Chameleon! |
| 14:53.31 | purl | Ballmer_Peak: i already had it that way |
| 14:53.40 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 14:53.55 | Torhal | ~factinfo karmakarma |
| 14:53.55 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 14:53.55 | purl | karmakarma -- created by Torhal <~Torhal@45.79.214.180> 1m 23s ago. |
| 14:53.58 | Torhal | :D |
| 14:54.13 | VIad | why are you so worried about it? |
| 14:54.19 | Ballmer_Peak | oh was scrolling back, took me a minute to figure out how to put it in there. |
| 14:54.29 | VIad | I can literally go in private with purl and do a "forget" command on anything I dont like :p |
| 14:54.33 | Torhal | Someone may actually use it and you deleted it because you didn't understand why it was there. |
| 14:54.40 | Torhal | I was simply trying to be courteous. |
| 14:54.41 | nevcairiel | some people are nice, and some people are fucksticks |
| 14:54.45 | VIad | and its fine apparently, since purl has no auth system, but it does, but its shit |
| 14:54.47 | nevcairiel | we clearly know which one VIad belongs to |
| 14:54.50 | nevcairiel | not that this is news |
| 14:55.00 | VIad | I didnt expect I could delete other peoples shits |
| 14:55.07 | Ballmer_Peak | well, some people can be nice, and fucksticks, and nice in the fact that they are fucksticks. |
| 14:55.10 | Thunder_Child | But you also didn't put it back. |
| 14:55.23 | Shockah|Work | it's an ancient bot, do you expect it to track NickServ accounts or what |
| 14:55.33 | VIad | it does have the auth error flag thingy |
| 14:55.43 | VIad | so it apparently sometimes cares to check for stuff :p |
| 14:55.43 | Shockah|Work | otherwise there would be tons of unused taken command names you can't ever change |
| 14:55.44 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/626701454145430/videos/711826325632942/ |
| 14:55.46 | nevcairiel | the internet used to be full of niuce people |
| 14:55.50 | Torhal | Is VIad insane? |
| 14:55.52 | Torhal | ~8ball |
| 14:55.52 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: You may rely on it |
| 14:55.57 | Torhal | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 14:56.00 | Thunder_Child | There is a lock command iirc. |
| 14:56.03 | Thunder_Child | ~lock Thunder_Child |
| 14:56.08 | Ballmer_Peak | purl, Ballmer_Peak is <reply> Ballmer_Peak does his best work 3 drinks into a 6 pack. |
| 14:56.08 | purl | okay, Ballmer_Peak |
| 14:56.11 | Thunder_Child | it already is. |
| 14:56.15 | nevcairiel | anyone can unlock it again |
| 14:56.15 | Thunder_Child | locked that is. |
| 14:56.20 | Torhal | ~lock karmakarma |
| 14:56.26 | nevcairiel | but at least its a sign someone didnt want it changed |
| 14:56.27 | Shockah|Work | ~unlock karmakarma |
| 14:56.35 | Shockah|Work | purl> factoid karmakarma is not locked. |
| 14:56.36 | purl | ACTION gives karmakarma is not locked. a cup of trinitrotoluene |
| 14:56.42 | Shockah|Work | uh |
| 14:56.45 | Torhal | Hah |
| 14:56.53 | Torhal | purl> wat |
| 14:56.54 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wat is the linuxargs line?, or https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat |
| 14:57.06 | Torhal | Okay, then. I'm going to bed. |
| 14:57.11 | Thunder_Child | slacker. |
| 14:57.12 | VIad | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 14:57.28 | Thunder_Child | Oh yea, that talk is awesome., |
| 14:57.35 | Thunder_Child | Had me in tears. |
| 14:57.46 | VIad | someone should factory reset purl and lock it up |
| 14:58.10 | Gnarfoz | my weird ARTIFACT_UPDATE thing has now branched out from here, to a github issue, wowi forum and a ticket filed for BlizzBugsSuck |
| 14:58.14 | Ballmer_Peak | ponders adding a bot to this channel... |
| 14:58.19 | Thunder_Child | No one is forcing you to use it. |
| 14:58.19 | Gnarfoz | I just want it to be over |
| 14:59.01 | VIad | the only reason purl is here is for the logging |
| 14:59.08 | VIad | no one else gives a shit about the other functions |
| 14:59.11 | Torhal | No, it's also here for this: |
| 14:59.17 | VIad | ~whaleshield |
| 14:59.17 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield viad from the blast. |
| 14:59.18 | Torhal | ~whalenuke VIad |
| 14:59.18 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around VIad with his mind powers. |
| 14:59.26 | VIad | I had my shields up preemtively |
| 14:59.32 | Torhal | ~lart VIad |
| 14:59.32 | purl | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats VIad until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with |
| 14:59.40 | VIad | shield is still up, sorry :p |
| 14:59.54 | nevcairiel | its only a blast shield |
| 15:00.04 | nevcairiel | no nut protection included |
| 15:00.44 | VIad | ~factinfo whalenuke |
| 15:00.44 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 15:00.44 | purl | there's no such factoid as whalenuke, VIad |
| 15:01.00 | VIad | I guess its part of the "core" of purl :p |
| 15:01.14 | nevcairiel | nah factoids that take arguments are just a bit more complex |
| 15:01.36 | Thunder_Child | ~CMD: whalenuke (.*?) |
| 15:01.50 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo CMD: whalenuke (.*?) |
| 15:01.50 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 15:01.50 | purl | cmd: whalenuke (.*?) -- created by findlay <n=justin@67.137.24.115> at Tue Nov 21 05:10:43 2006 (3641 days); last modified at Wed Jun 11 18:01:44 2014 by hiWIt!~jxqz@107.170.248.19; it has been requested 550 times, last by Torhal, 2m 32s ago. |
| 15:02.41 | Ballmer_Peak | well, that hasn't been brightening anyone's day regularly. |
| 15:02.58 | Gnarfoz | it's the nuclear option |
| 15:03.27 | Thunder_Child | Could be worse. |
| 15:03.33 | Thunder_Child | ~whalenutshot Ballmer_Peak |
| 15:03.33 | purl | ACTION drops a vastly obese whale named Ricardo on Ballmer_Peak's family jewels |
| 15:03.55 | Ballmer_Peak | well, only have one jewel. so it half missed. |
| 15:04.20 | Ballmer_Peak | YAY Cancer! |
| 15:04.22 | Thunder_Child | Hitting is hitting. |
| 15:05.01 | Ballmer_Peak | which brings to mind: Dude! when I said I'd hit that, I meant with my car. |
| 15:05.17 | Gnarfoz | Dude, where's my car |
| 15:05.28 | Gnarfoz | also, this gem from 2012 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266038556504494082 :D |
| 15:06.48 | nevcairiel | i never knew how the actual english term for those guys is, now i do |
| 15:07.00 | nevcairiel | but i find this whole system rather confusing at best, silly at worst |
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| 15:07.38 | Thunder_Child | It is much worse than 'silly' at its worst. |
| 15:07.39 | nevcairiel | i'm sure there is some super democratic reason why you cant just elect the guy directly, instead of electing a guy that elects a guy |
| 15:08.00 | Thunder_Child | Historically? Communication I suspect. |
| 15:12.01 | mckenziemc | senators were originally elected by the house too |
| 15:12.49 | mckenziemc | kinda ties into the fact that we aren't a democracy, but rather a democratic republic :p |
| 15:16.33 | Stanzilla | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwzq3YCUQAA1zse.jpg:large |
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| 15:31.10 | karl_w_w | this website is awesome http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/mex/usa/show/2014/ |
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| 15:36.11 | karl_w_w | Australia gets 0.53% of its Orange juice, not fermented, spirited, or frozen from Egypt. |
| 15:41.21 | bluchorescow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:49.56 | bluchorescow | sleepy tiems |
| 16:08.14 | Andols | Is it possible to access another addons locals? |
| 16:08.28 | nevcairiel | not if they are not exposed somehow |
| 16:08.50 | nevcairiel | you can make code entirely isolated and unable to be found |
| 16:12.09 | Andols | ok, Its plan B then :P |
| 16:13.53 | znf | duhm |
| 16:13.59 | znf | I used S2M |
| 16:14.03 | znf | but didn't enter voidform |
| 16:14.11 | znf | and I had 20s left |
| 16:14.13 | nevcairiel | still died? |
| 16:14.13 | znf | and I was on a flightpath |
| 16:14.16 | znf | nope |
| 16:14.51 | Ballmer_Peak | what is S2M? |
| 16:14.58 | znf | surrender to madness |
| 16:15.11 | Constie | Surrender Two Madness. |
| 16:15.16 | Ballmer_Peak | still no idea what that is. |
| 16:15.22 | znf | shadow priest talent |
| 16:15.28 | Constie | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=193223/surrender-to-madness |
| 16:15.29 | znf | after it expires/exit voidform, you die |
| 16:15.33 | Ballmer_Peak | ok. |
| 16:15.46 | Andols | You do amazing dps. And then you die Horribly |
| 16:17.39 | Ballmer_Peak | I just had a terrible thought. |
| 16:17.52 | Ballmer_Peak | it concerns amazing dps, and dying horribly. |
| 16:18.18 | mckenziemc | was it StM? |
| 16:18.22 | Ballmer_Peak | Do you think anyone ever calculated the dps potential of a 747? |
| 16:18.54 | mckenziemc | apparently it was |
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| 16:27.04 | Gnarfoz | ~seen alestane |
| 16:27.07 | purl | alestane <~nevin@pool-108-20-131-6.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 24d 20h 30m 52s ago, saying: 'Depends a little what kind of chart you want, but I used R for things like that.'. |
| 16:30.39 | znf | uhm |
| 16:30.42 | znf | I killed the world boss |
| 16:30.47 | znf | but quest didn't trigger |
| 16:30.47 | znf | ? |
| 16:32.07 | Gnarfoz | TheDanW:Â are you in the BlizzCon UI dinner group photo? ^^ |
| 16:32.45 | Ballmer_Peak | I just saw a lvl 11 undead rogue entering iron forge via the tram, I guess he didn't come to my server. |
| 16:43.43 | znf | wonder if Gnarfoz noticed that you can now use the dalaran hs in combat |
| 16:43.55 | Stanzilla | I did |
| 16:50.02 | znf | heh https://twitter.com/JonnyCruzzz/status/796096902794080256 |
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| 17:00.06 | pompy | yeah thats what i linked earlier but from a facebook link ;) |
| 17:07.40 | znf | but seriously |
| 17:07.48 | znf | does blizzard have an issue with haste+crit items? |
| 17:07.50 | znf | there's so damn few of them |
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| 17:16.01 | pompy | znf: you can mess wit the filters a bit, but there's a lot www.wowhead.com/items/min-level:850/class:5?filter=103:96;1:1;0:0 |
| 17:16.27 | znf | ... |
| 17:16.43 | pompy | "Exclude results from PTR 7.1.0" guess they forgot to change that! |
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| 17:17.26 | znf | unique items there's not many! |
| 17:22.43 | nevcairiel | mastery+versa are equally rare, at least in raids |
| 17:23.40 | znf | there's too many mastery/haste, haste/versa |
| 17:31.23 | Constie | My legendary helm has haste and crit. |
| 17:33.47 | TheDanW | Gnarfoz: i don't think so, i had to take off early because i had the first blizzcon shift on friday |
| 17:39.05 | Yoshimo | does wow offer a possibility to check if the previous rank of a recipe has been already learned or do we need to hardcode these requirements? |
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| 17:51.06 | TheDanW | Yoshimo: GetRecipeInfo will return the id of the previous rank (previousRecipeID field), which you can then pass into GetRecipeInfo to determine if its learned |
| 17:52.18 | Gnarfoz | znf: I did, and it also sorts where it belongs now |
| 17:57.02 | znf | cool |
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| 18:55.21 | Ballmer_Peak | ok, time to change the addon graphics. People will be able to choose from white, black, purple, blue, green, red, and hot pink. I'm sure with those 7 options everyone can find a nice fit with their UI. |
| 18:56.21 | Gnarfoz | just make it white and let people use a colorpicker to tint it! unlimited choice! :P |
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| 19:08.48 | Ballmer_Peak | ok, how do I color picker it? |
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| 20:09.43 | Yoshimo | TheDanW: i didn't expect it to be possible, thanks |
| 20:24.22 | Gnarfoz | so that hotfix to make you not die instantly and get ported out of Karazhan... didn't do anything at all |
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| 20:28.03 | Gnarfoz | thanks trump! |
| 20:42.54 | pompy | :O |
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| 21:58.56 | foxlit | finding trrs aux cables on amazon is a pain :( |
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| 22:10.23 | zenzelezz | foxlit: what do you use those for? |
| 22:10.56 | foxlit | making wireless headphones not be wireless. |
| 22:12.14 | zenzelezz | must be comfortable ones to bother doing that instead of buying pre-wired ones |
| 22:17.15 | foxlit | yeah, relatively happy with them; the cable basically triples battery life, which is nice for long flights. |
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| 22:19.21 | Semlar | Gnarfoz: PlaySoundKitID(76680) |
| 22:22.11 | Ballmer_Peak | is the color picker a built in thing, or is it something I need to 'addon'? |
| 22:22.37 | Semlar | i haven't quite figured out how to turn this into a file path |
| 22:23.07 | Semlar | Simca: do you know how sound kits reference a file path? |
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| 22:25.11 | znf | I think nobody knows |
| 22:25.17 | znf | ~logs |
| 22:25.17 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 22:25.59 | Ballmer_Peak | ~Ballmer_Peak |
| 22:26.00 | purl | Ballmer_Peak does his best work 3 drinks into a 6 pack. |
| 22:26.36 | foxlit | Semlar: SOUND\SPELLS\Spell_RO_ShurikenToss_Impact_0{1,2,3,4}.ogg |
| 22:27.20 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: how |
| 22:28.04 | Semlar | well, i would assume the path is SOUND\SPELLS\Spell_RO_FromtheShadows_Impact.ogg but i can't play it from that |
| 22:28.44 | Semlar | i can do PlaySound('Spell_RO_FromtheShadows_Impact') |
| 22:30.27 | Semlar | wait |
| 22:30.35 | Semlar | these are two different sounds |
| 22:30.54 | Semlar | i got these from the same entry |
| 22:33.50 | Semlar | PlaySoundKitID(76680) and PlaySound('Spell_RO_FromtheShadows_Impact') appear to be different sounds, but i got them from the same SoundKit.db2 entry |
| 22:34.16 | znf | you're imagining things |
| 22:34.23 | Gnarfoz | I just created files with all 5 names. |
| 22:34.29 | znf | Semlar, what's 68920? |
| 22:34.38 | znf | it should be Sound\Spells\FX_Sonic_Railgun_Cast01.OGG |
| 22:34.39 | Semlar | oh you know what, it appears to play different sound effects every time you play it |
| 22:35.26 | Semlar | how'd you figure out what those are foxlit |
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| 22:39.52 | Gnarfoz | magic |
| 22:46.54 | Gnarfoz | I'll be very selective of who gets this zip file... |
| 22:47.13 | Gnarfoz | annoying people can keep enjoying this nice sound |
| 22:47.23 | znf | I've no idea what sound you're talking about |
| 22:47.43 | foxlit | Semlar: ls . | grep Sound && lua dbc.lua SoundKit.db2 | grep 76680 && ls | grep SoundKit && lua dbc.lua SoundKitEntry.db2 | grep 76680 && lua dbc.lua FileDataComplete.db2 | grep -E '1367(899|90[012])' |
| 22:47.46 | Gnarfoz | do /run PlaySoundKitID(76680) a bunch of times and you'll know |
| 22:48.44 | znf | takes too much time to start my game :D |
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| 22:49.10 | Constie | Please don't use cheat codes, foxlit. |
| 22:49.15 | Semlar | thanks |
| 22:49.15 | znf | hmmm, it's almost 1am and I'm still at the office |
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| 22:50.19 | foxlit | Constie: http://trickster-project.com/anime/assets/pc/img/top/main/img2.png |
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| 22:54.21 | Constie | I don't recognize that Pokémon. |
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| 23:35.36 | kd3 | logread |
| 23:35.40 | kd3 | gah |
| 23:36.23 | Stanzilla | logread gah, unknown parameter |
| 23:45.33 | foxlit | Someone should be bribed to make emerald dreamway a subzone of the dreamgrove. |
| 23:45.53 | nevcairiel | why |
| 23:46.30 | Mr_Rabies | i think the dreamway is meant to be a long term thing |
| 23:46.32 | nevcairiel | its in the emeral dream, you cant just rip it out and make it a subzone of a subzone of valsharah! |
| 23:46.32 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 23:46.40 | foxlit | don't care; lie! |
| 23:46.52 | Mr_Rabies | it's effectively rank 2 of teleport:moonglade |
| 23:47.06 | Mr_Rabies | and there's currently 1 unused portal |
| 23:47.10 | nevcairiel | do you just want to be able to right-click out of it to the dreamgrove? :d |
| 23:47.12 | foxlit | yes. |
| 23:47.13 | Mr_Rabies | and one that's all nightmarified |
| 23:47.59 | foxlit | well, to broken isles, most of the time, but anything is better than the current "no, you don't get to navigate to any of the maps here" |
| 23:50.37 | nevcairiel | i dont usually hang around the dreamway to have that problem |
| 23:50.45 | nevcairiel | some other classes have order halls that basically do that |
| 23:50.51 | nevcairiel | out in the cosmos somewhere with no parent zone |
| 23:50.55 | foxlit | port back -> open map to scan for new world quests -> fuck. |
| 23:51.15 | nevcairiel | whenever i port i usually just run to the grove |
| 23:51.20 | nevcairiel | and do whatever then |
| 23:53.00 | foxlit | but those are seconds wasted :) |
| 23:54.56 | foxlit | (would also be nice not to have a loading screen between it and the dreamgrove) |
| 23:55.42 | xyphoid | the dreamway's pretty luxurious i'm not gonna complain |
| 23:55.54 | Ironii | whats wrong with checking the WQ's inside dreamway ? |
| 23:56.42 | nevcairiel | nothing, just takes some effort to get to the map |
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| 23:59.19 | Ironii | iirc its the same amount of clicks than it is for DK's, DH's, Paladins, Monks and Warriors |
| 23:59.28 | Ironii | not sure about other classes ;p |
| 23:59.50 | nevcairiel | except that the dreamway is not a zone we really hang out in, those guys have it in their class halls =p |
