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| 00:11.10 | Semlar | it looks like trying to track which recipes you have queued up with nomi is going to be a nightmare |
| 00:11.25 | Thunder_Child | But not ours. |
| 00:12.06 | Semlar | it's not actually possible to figure out what you've already got queued up, other than the one you can see on the landing page |
| 00:12.18 | Semlar | so the addon would have to actually see you queue something up |
| 00:12.38 | Semlar | and apparently there isn't an event to tell you that you've just queued up x number of a recipe |
| 00:13.28 | Semlar | and hooking the api function that tells it to queue up a specific number of a recipe might not be reliable |
| 00:13.54 | Semlar | so i'm not actually sure what the best way to handle this is going to be |
| 00:15.40 | Semlar | i guess i could do something like record how many things you had queued up before you opened that work order dialog, the type of dialog you opened, and then how many you now have queued up afterward |
| 00:16.37 | Semlar | assuming it even updates that quickly |
| 00:38.22 | Semlar | i suppose i could also count how many of each ingredient you had, but that might be riskier |
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| 00:44.51 | Torhal | This is what happens when you steal people's online names, Semlar. |
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| 00:45.56 | Semlar | who would name something nomicakes! |
| 00:46.17 | Ammako | you |
| 00:46.27 | Semlar | yeah but i'm unique |
| 00:48.32 | znf | Oh. |
| 00:48.36 | znf | I didn't do any Mythic+ dungeon this week |
| 00:58.10 | Primer | sigh...and I spent 4k resources on my third extra roll, forgetting that I had the class perk |
| 00:58.33 | Primer | I need to make a weak aura for that...if (questAvailable) PUT BIG ASS ICON ON THE SCREEN |
| 00:58.59 | Primer | Speaking of...I don't suppose anyone knows how to get that quest id? |
| 00:59.21 | Primer | And does it vary from one class to another? I looked up the NPC (druid in my case) on wowhead, but I see no link to the quest |
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| 00:59.58 | Ammako | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetQuestID ? |
| 01:01.03 | Primer | the quest is not available any more |
| 01:01.29 | Primer | I suppose I should have specified that |
| 01:03.02 | Ammako | how do you mean |
| 01:03.18 | Ammako | quest disappears once you get 3 rolls? |
| 01:03.39 | Ammako | i guess best would be to wait until the next week |
| 01:04.24 | Ammako | cause even if you found the quest id somewhere, it's hard to test it to know if you really have the right one, without being able to check with the quest in-game :p |
| 01:04.51 | Primer | yes, you can only get 3 extra rolls, and I got all 3 from the dude in Dal, forgetting that I had the class perk (which costs 50 resources) |
| 01:05.06 | Primer | not that I don't still have 15k resources after all that...just saying |
| 01:05.21 | Primer | yeah, I'll have to make a note to do this next week |
| 01:05.22 | Primer | thanks |
| 01:05.58 | Ammako | i mean you could find the quest id. but then you still have to wait until next week to verify it, unless i guess someone else can verify it for you |
| 01:06.16 | Ammako | i dont think i have that perk though and possibly not on the same class, if quest ids vary between classes |
| 01:09.58 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/Wow-64_2016-10-19_04-09-54.png |
| 01:10.02 | kullervo | cool instant tank queue bro |
| 01:10.12 | kullervo | there was even a satchel active |
| 01:10.28 | Ammako | when satchel is active means way more tanks will be queuing at once :p |
| 01:10.42 | Ammako | bound to be more competition for group spots |
| 01:11.04 | Semlar | if there's a satchel being offered he should be in the point of the queue where a tank is needed |
| 01:11.29 | Ammako | the display doesnt update in real time |
| 01:12.08 | kullervo | it does though |
| 01:12.19 | Semlar | i'll just wait for a dps satchel |
| 01:12.28 | Ammako | the display updates whenever you change lfg tabs |
| 01:14.17 | Ammako | otherwise if that were the case, with people queuing for satchel, you'd see satchel offer disappear before your eyes without leaving lfd window :p |
| 01:16.56 | Semlar | they don't update the display in the window, but it will change on the server end |
| 01:17.08 | Semlar | which means it can still show that there is a satchel available when there isn't one |
| 01:17.34 | Ammako | and if it explicitly says you have a satchel on it then you get a satchel |
| 01:17.59 | Ammako | if it says you get a satchel once queue pops, which for me it always has regardless of how long i had to wait in queue |
| 01:18.12 | Ammako | as long as the lfd window showed satchel |
| 01:18.36 | Semlar | whether you get one is determined by whether there was one available when you queued and doesn't matter how long you were in the queue |
| 01:18.58 | Ammako | and if it shows there was one on group finder, there is one |
| 01:19.03 | Semlar | but like you said, the frame doesn't update the display while it's open |
| 01:19.11 | Semlar | which means it can continue displaying that there is one when there isn't |
| 01:19.33 | Ammako | so like if you sat there with the window open |
| 01:19.41 | Ammako | for like an hour or two, and /then/ you queued |
| 01:19.48 | Semlar | you wouldn't get a satchel |
| 01:19.48 | Ammako | then you probably wouldnt get it |
| 01:19.55 | Ammako | that isnt something ive been able to test |
| 01:19.58 | Semlar | and it's more like 5 minutes |
| 01:20.05 | Semlar | probably less |
| 01:20.20 | Ammako | well what determines whether or not satchel is available? |
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| 01:20.41 | Semlar | presumably how many people for that role are in the queue already |
| 01:20.50 | Ammako | sometimes dps satchel shows up and then everyone rushes to get it |
| 01:21.17 | Semlar | i don't know, i was in the queue for half an hour waiting for lfr to pop last night |
| 01:21.33 | Semlar | both wings had dps satchels |
| 01:21.46 | Ammako | for some reason lfr seemed to get dps satchels a lot more often |
| 01:21.52 | Ammako | compared to dungeons |
| 01:21.57 | Semlar | because there are way more dps slots |
| 01:22.22 | Semlar | how many people are in the raid in LFR, 20? |
| 01:22.25 | Ammako | yeah but ive not seen it happen much during end of mop content drought, whereas it was commonplace during wod :p |
| 01:22.42 | Ammako | then again maybe i just didnt check lfr that often back then |
| 01:23.23 | Semlar | maybe more people are queueing as tanks |
| 01:24.00 | Semlar | since you can only have 2 tanks in the raid, it's going to need another like 14 dps for every couple tanks that queue up |
| 01:24.27 | Ammako | i think |
| 01:24.42 | Ammako | it might be because lfr in wod got -way- easier compared to mop |
| 01:25.00 | Ammako | so that made a lot more people queue as tank/healer for quick queues, who would have otherwise queued as dps |
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| 02:14.34 | Corrodias | man, i remember when i couldn't get people to form a party for Strat even advertising myself as a healer |
| 02:17.23 | Ammako | lol brf heroic group asking for 850+... |
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| 02:44.25 | Ammako | omg yes https://puu.sh/rNRdx/04e43b6808.jpg |
| 02:44.56 | Ammako | i wanted that so bad |
| 02:46.17 | Ammako | 8 ji-kun kills across my characters |
| 02:46.27 | kullervo | lol |
| 02:46.30 | kullervo | I had like... 180 |
| 02:47.23 | Ammako | so freaking gorgeous |
| 02:55.40 | Ammako | we're such a good match https://puu.sh/rNRNp/d5824078af.jpg |
| 03:10.14 | pompy | I finally got https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35894760/WoWScrnShot_101116_074137.jpg |
| 03:10.43 | nebula | grats on that dead of onyxia! |
| 03:10.44 | nebula | head* |
| 03:11.51 | kullervo | damn nice, the rewards for that quest are priceless |
| 03:13.51 | Ammako | lmao |
| 03:16.58 | pompy | ive completed that quest already, it just always drops |
| 03:17.32 | Mr_Rabies | what addon is that for loot there, pompy |
| 03:17.34 | Mr_Rabies | thats neat |
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| 03:19.15 | pompy | Mr_Rabies: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7976-Butsu.html |
| 03:19.19 | pompy | still works.. |
| 03:20.03 | pompy | https://github.com/haste/Butsu |
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| 04:06.09 | LexSfX | that looks like a step up from https://wow.curseforge.com/addons/improved-loot-frame/ |
| 04:06.17 | kullervo | nooo this is a disaster, my mouse has been discontinued |
| 04:06.23 | LexSfX | which mouse? |
| 04:06.30 | kullervo | mad catz mmo 7 |
| 04:06.34 | nebula | time to buy 5 |
| 04:06.44 | kullervo | I didn't find until now |
| 04:06.45 | LexSfX | i'm surprised mad catz is still in business |
| 04:06.56 | fewyn | rip kullervo |
| 04:07.01 | kullervo | they apparently announced a new product just yesterday |
| 04:07.02 | LexSfX | i remember that company from terrible n64 controllers in the 90s |
| 04:07.04 | Ammako | i remember all those crappy knock-off link cables for gbc/gba and those crappy controllers |
| 04:07.21 | LexSfX | you have a friend over? you have to use the shit controller |
| 04:07.26 | LexSfX | from mad catz |
| 04:08.39 | kullervo | I COULD deal with less buttons on the mouse, but would require a separate macro keyboard or something... |
| 04:09.19 | kullervo | thumb scroll and a separate "shift" key for mouse buttons are just too useful for mmos :| |
| 04:09.40 | LexSfX | what's the thumb scroll do? |
| 04:09.51 | kullervo | it's a scroll wheel |
| 04:09.59 | kullervo | where the spam macros go |
| 04:10.07 | Ammako | tbh the crappy n64 controllers had better analog sticks than the official one |
| 04:10.09 | LexSfX | does it do exactly the same as the main scroll wheel? |
| 04:10.22 | LexSfX | like, send the same input |
| 04:10.26 | kullervo | no, it's not the same button wtf would that be good for |
| 04:10.39 | kullervo | it can be if you want |
| 04:10.41 | LexSfX | well, it is mad catz, so my expectations aren't high :P |
| 04:10.49 | kullervo | it's Saitek |
| 04:10.58 | kullervo | this isn't 90s anymore |
| 04:11.11 | LexSfX | btw, where did you see it's discontinued? i see tons of them being sold |
| 04:11.23 | kullervo | I see it's not on the manufacturer's page or on any site |
| 04:11.29 | kullervo | everyone's sold out |
| 04:11.45 | kullervo | and no I'm not going to order from the US |
| 04:11.50 | LexSfX | oh, the only one on amazon is $630 lol |
| 04:11.52 | LexSfX | that's ridiculous |
| 04:11.56 | LexSfX | i guess it's really sparse |
| 04:12.13 | mckenziemc | discontinues Fisker and hugs Cairenn. |
| 04:12.45 | kullervo | guess I'll have to buy the logitech g502... again |
| 04:12.55 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
| 04:13.43 | LexSfX | i use g700 and it's pretty nice; no thumb scroll wheel though |
| 04:13.47 | LexSfX | but plenty of buttons |
| 04:13.55 | kullervo | stacked buttons suck |
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| 04:14.37 | LexSfX | i can hit all 4 thumb buttons just by moving my thumb in different ways with extremely minimal movement |
| 04:15.02 | LexSfX | because the upper buttons are made in such a way that pushing them upward clicks them |
| 04:15.48 | kullervo | this thing has 5 buttons and a "stick" |
| 04:16.19 | LexSfX | the g700 has 10 buttons, scroll left and right, and scroll wheel |
| 04:16.29 | LexSfX | so 14 inputs, i guess |
| 04:16.56 | LexSfX | oh, 15 with mmb |
| 04:17.11 | kullervo | no shift |
| 04:17.11 | Ammako | your mouse doesnt have left/right click? :p |
| 04:17.32 | LexSfX | that was counted in the 15 inputs |
| 04:17.56 | LexSfX | regarding "shift", you can set any button to shift |
| 04:17.59 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn over Verizon |
| 04:18.01 | Ammako | oh i assumed the 10 buttons was like 10 buttons aside from the usual mouse buttons |
| 04:19.10 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker but rejects Verizon |
| 04:19.28 | kullervo | default+14x2 |
| 04:20.21 | kullervo | oh I tried the g700 |
| 04:20.36 | kullervo | it wasn't "s" yet, just a week after initial release |
| 04:21.02 | LexSfX | i have the non-"s" version |
| 04:21.05 | kullervo | returned it and got the mmo7 because the logitech mouse had such terrible buttons |
| 04:21.23 | kullervo | does it even have a sideways scroll? |
| 04:21.40 | LexSfX | yeah |
| 04:22.00 | LexSfX | not another scroll wheel though |
| 04:22.08 | LexSfX | just left/right scroll wheel clicks |
| 04:24.53 | Freddie_ | 10 buttons seems like a lot |
| 04:25.08 | mckenziemc | mugs Fisker over sneakernet. |
| 04:28.04 | LexSfX | well, i need jump, targetnearest, targetprevious, autorun, target, mouselook, mount, mount, speed boost ability (shaman ghost wolf or druid dash for example), play/pause, and next track on my mouse |
| 04:28.20 | LexSfX | oops, just 1 instance of "mount" :P |
| 04:28.32 | LexSfX | movement utility goes on my mouse |
| 04:28.35 | LexSfX | in every game i play |
| 04:28.51 | kullervo | movement utility on shift... everywhere |
| 04:28.56 | Ammako | my keyboard has music controls, really nice |
| 04:29.06 | kullervo | do you reach them without moving your hands? |
| 04:29.19 | LexSfX | i like being able to run around with 1 hand if i'm eating etc. |
| 04:29.20 | Ammako | no but those arent something i need to be doing so often |
| 04:29.23 | LexSfX | so movement utility can't be on my keyboard |
| 04:29.52 | Ammako | but being able to do all movement stuff with just one hand seems really convenient sometimes |
| 04:34.53 | Xuerian | I tend to take the opposite approach and make sure everything is doable around movement keys, whereas lots of people unbind turning in favor of strafe only. /shrug, useful either way |
| 04:35.24 | Ammako | i do keyboard turning when im lazy |
| 04:35.41 | kullervo | I do keyboard turning when drinking |
| 04:35.50 | kullervo | or eating |
| 04:36.02 | kullervo | or if it's viole thold |
| 04:36.12 | Ammako | ew violet hold |
| 04:36.43 | kullervo | afking that is challenging as tank |
| 04:37.09 | Ammako | it's just such a boring dungeon |
| 04:37.25 | LexSfX | i only have keyboard turning bound to arrow keys |
| 04:37.31 | Ammako | at least the new one is still better than the original |
| 04:37.33 | LexSfX | which i never press :P |
| 04:37.39 | mckenziemc | viole thold is vile indeed |
| 04:37.45 | Ammako | i use arrow keys sometimes isntead of wasd |
| 04:38.09 | Semlar | i had the original violet hold bug once and the portals were all opening super fast |
| 04:38.10 | Ammako | it always just felt weird for a/d and left/right to make me turn, strafe feels more natural. so i rebound that |
| 04:38.44 | kullervo | it strafes from left/right when you hold the m2 |
| 04:38.47 | Semlar | rather than wait for one portal to close it just started the next portal almost immediately |
| 04:39.08 | Ammako | when i feel lazy and i use arrow keys, i still have right-shift and right-ctrl for modifiers, and i bound \ key as an alternative to tab for targetting |
| 04:39.13 | LexSfX | i only have bindings that would allow me to succeed in arena, and using keyboard to slowly turn me around wouldn't work above 2k |
| 04:39.20 | mckenziemc | i tried to have my UI set up so that i could play well enough if i had to use either hand alone temporarily |
| 04:39.25 | kullervo | Semlar: that would be great if it was the default |
| 04:39.39 | Ammako | but if you use your mouse to turn, how do you click on Rend |
| 04:39.45 | LexSfX | lol |
| 04:40.00 | Xuerian | is your entire screen not a rend actionbutton? |
| 04:40.01 | Semlar | yeah it should just open all of the portals at once |
| 04:40.14 | LexSfX | portal roulette? |
| 04:40.22 | Semlar | there should be a switch to start the next round though |
| 04:40.25 | kullervo | tbh at that point it'd be just "pop the crystals" |
| 04:40.33 | mckenziemc | good point |
| 04:40.40 | Semlar | just turn the defenses off |
| 04:41.00 | mckenziemc | make them hurt the party too |
| 04:41.06 | LexSfX | yes, i'd love if violet hold opened all the portals at once and i clicked the crystals :P |
| 04:41.18 | Ammako | or make it so portal shows up as soon as the other mobs die, and the mobs come out of the portal right away instead of there being a pause |
| 04:41.31 | LexSfX | it's probably fast enough on mythic +10 or higher |
| 04:41.37 | LexSfX | at the current rate |
| 04:41.43 | Ammako | you cant mythic+ violet hold though :p |
| 04:41.48 | LexSfX | oh, didn't know that |
| 04:42.06 | LexSfX | shows how much pve i've been doing ;x |
| 04:42.25 | Ammako | because VH is time-gated like that and i guess making it speedrun-able would have been too logical |
| 04:43.47 | Ammako | but then again violet hold doesnt really have much mechanics outside of bosses, might be a bit too easy compared tothe others |
| 04:44.54 | Semlar | i don't really see how it's any different than other mythics though, it's all essentially just a dps race outside of skipping pulls and exploiting things |
| 04:46.21 | Semlar | the trash in violet hold definitely have mechanics, you just don't notice them because you can't play it on a harder difficulty |
| 04:46.51 | Ammako | if they could just make mobs spawn back to back instead of having the group sit there waiting in between portals |
| 04:47.09 | xyphoid | i was laughing that legion VH still had the mechanic wher emobs could break the door |
| 04:47.18 | xyphoid | like good luck on that actually happening |
| 04:47.18 | Ammako | that might be the main reason why they didnt make it m+ able |
| 04:47.19 | nebula | the next portal does start as soon as the mobs die |
| 04:47.40 | Semlar | the portal starts but then you have to wait for the actual mobs to spawn |
| 04:47.41 | nebula | the only time you wait around is after a boss |
| 04:47.42 | Ammako | yeah but you still have to wait forever |
| 04:47.52 | nebula | oh, please, it's like 10s |
| 04:48.10 | Semlar | it's to give you time to drink or whatever |
| 04:48.18 | Semlar | which frankly you'd need in mythic+ |
| 04:48.29 | Ammako | to enjoy that dungeon youd probably have to be drunk |
| 04:48.33 | Ammako | so that makes sense |
| 04:49.14 | Semlar | they should speed up the portals and remove the defenses |
| 04:49.46 | kullervo | just add a lever players can pull to force portals to open |
| 04:49.47 | mckenziemc | they should port Semlar to Northern Barrens. |
| 04:50.27 | xyphoid | is black morass in timewalking |
| 04:50.28 | Semlar | you should be able to just keep pulling the lever |
| 04:50.32 | xyphoid | i have a soft spot for that place |
| 04:50.48 | LexSfX | i agree, Semlar. there should be an extraactionbutton that says "pull next" basically |
| 04:50.58 | kullervo | xyphoid: yes, it is, and the only reason it was bearable for me was that I could oneshot the bosses by abusing mechanics |
| 04:51.24 | kullervo | like really 5 million damage just like that |
| 04:51.55 | Semlar | why is interact-on-left-click the default setting |
| 04:52.19 | Ammako | because |
| 04:52.25 | Semlar | this is why new players pull everything |
| 04:52.32 | LexSfX | yikes |
| 04:52.42 | mckenziemc | xyphoid: http://www.darklegacycomics.com/100 |
| 04:53.28 | kd3 | that was such a freaking annoyance |
| 04:54.48 | mckenziemc | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/85\ |
| 04:54.59 | mckenziemc | minus the backslash :( |
| 04:55.13 | Ammako | but interact on left-click still requires right-click to attack |
| 04:55.30 | Ammako | unless there's some other extra setting that makes it also trigger on left click |
| 05:10.32 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:15.04 | nebula | now go do that word of intellect work order |
| 05:15.15 | Semlar | never |
| 05:15.44 | kullervo | hmh.. I repaired this mouse |
| 05:15.56 | Semlar | i'm actually not sure i can hook this tooltip the way i want to so maybe i should just stick another tooltip onto it |
| 05:16.25 | Semlar | well, not without doing something hacky |
| 05:17.29 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.23 | nebula | don't forget the textures |
| 05:21.34 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:21.48 | nebula | beautiful |
| 05:21.52 | Semlar | i'm not leaving the tooltip like this, i just needed to see if it was actually recording things correctly |
| 05:22.24 | Semlar | i might put a second tooltip next to the normal tooltip with this list |
| 05:22.37 | Ammako | i didnt even realize you could make work orders with fish |
| 05:24.58 | Semlar | does that info look fine though |
| 05:25.36 | Semlar | it's the ingredient you're researching and the time when it'll be finished |
| 05:25.42 | nebula | maybe collapse consecutive entries? |
| 05:26.10 | Semlar | well, even if you have multiple copies of the same item they'd still be 4 hours apart |
| 05:26.29 | nebula | i mean so it only shows the first |
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| 05:33.46 | Semlar | the ptr kicked me off |
| 05:33.55 | Semlar | how rude |
| 05:35.39 | Semlar | i think collapsing it is going to make it less clear |
| 05:36.37 | Semlar | if i just do like Stormray x5 - 20 Min, it's ambiguous what it means |
| 05:38.20 | Semlar | if you already know that it means the first order is going to be done in 20 minutes, that's fine, but it could also imply that 5 pickups will be ready in 20 minutes |
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| 06:55.47 | Elmoe | Gnarfoz: you ever get a reply from the deathnote author wrt the health bars being broken? |
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| 07:27.09 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:31.37 | Shockah|Work | Semlar, have fun getting 3x crispy bacon rank 1 :') |
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| 07:44.30 | Semlar | we'll see what ptr-nomi gives me |
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| 08:31.41 | modernist | wow http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=142173/ring-of-collapsing-futures |
| 08:31.55 | VIad | ok I have NO clue what is healing me here :P LOL |
| 08:32.06 | VIad | literally AFK tanking 4 bears :p |
| 08:32.22 | VIad | uploading to gfycat, maybe you can help me out |
| 08:32.23 | modernist | kind of love these goofy extra meta items they seem to be introducing |
| 08:35.06 | VIad | can anyone explain my health going up in this clip? https://gfycat.com/BoldTotalGentoopenguin |
| 08:35.15 | Semlar | someone is claiming that getting raw ingredients back from nomi is an indication that you can't learn anything from that ingredient any more |
| 08:35.30 | Semlar | i'm moderately sure that isn't true, but does anyone have any evidence one way or the other |
| 08:35.48 | VIad | too busy getting mauled by 4 bears and trying to figure out what is healing me :/ |
| 08:36.18 | Semlar | you're evading |
| 08:36.21 | VIad | no |
| 08:36.23 | VIad | well yea |
| 08:36.26 | VIad | I found the culprit |
| 08:36.47 | VIad | you won't believe it :p |
| 08:36.49 | nebula | Semlar: not true, i got plenty to learn with the stuff i get back |
| 08:37.29 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure you just occasionally get 1 raw material back |
| 08:37.30 | VIad | http://www.wowhead.com/item=141958 |
| 08:37.54 | VIad | that temporary buff says it gives you 25% max hp buff for one hour, but it ALSO seems to like, heal you up those 25% in ticking intervals :p |
| 08:37.57 | VIad | for no apparent reason |
| 08:38.50 | VIad | some bug with the application of the aura it seems |
| 08:39.00 | VIad | pretty op |
| 08:40.00 | Gnarfoz | Elmoe: don't think so. :( tbh it looks like an arg moved places or something, each bar now represents the damage of that particular event, instead of the current hp of the actor |
| 08:40.07 | VIad | kind of weird why that item is bugged, seems pretty easy to add 25% max hp :p |
| 08:40.51 | VIad | Semlar: EXPLAIN |
| 08:41.16 | VIad | open world pvp gotta be fun, if I am ticking hidden 25% max hp heals ;d |
| 08:41.39 | Semlar | maybe it just keeps reapplying it |
| 08:42.03 | Semlar | most things that increase your max health also increase your current health to match |
| 08:42.44 | VIad | so it like, ticks, removes the max hp, reapplies it |
| 08:42.49 | VIad | so it seems like it is healing me :p |
| 08:43.05 | Semlar | i have no idea how to read your unit frames so |
| 08:43.35 | Gnarfoz | ~seen ami_yuy |
| 08:43.36 | purl | ami_yuy <~AmiYuy@cpe-75-84-184-97.socal.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 4d 6h 47m 42s ago, saying: 'Cool, I need to watch that later. Especially interesting since 7.1 is introducing upgrade icons on the default bags which I'm pretty sure are ilvl based.'. |
| 08:43.48 | Gnarfoz | mhm. |
| 08:44.19 | Semlar | it looks like you have 4.2 million health at 92% and then have 3.3 million health at the same percent later |
| 08:45.33 | Semlar | what is that blue buff you have |
| 09:03.50 | VIad | ok so I am looking at the video, blue stuff. you meant like under my nameplate? thats part of quartz |
| 09:04.15 | VIad | Semlar: the blue buff is my legendary neck not applying because of dmg taken :p |
| 09:06.53 | Semlar | i see |
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| 09:15.29 | VIad | Semlar: the 25% max hp buff is buggy, as it often like, drops the bonus, reapplies it, and such. |
| 09:15.58 | VIad | and it probably just removes the stat change aura, and adds it back on these internal ticks |
| 09:16.01 | VIad | making it bug out like that |
| 09:16.25 | VIad | in short: it would be the same if I clicked it away and applied a new one :p it seems it keeps your raw current health number when the aura is lost |
| 09:16.30 | VIad | and when applied it scales it by % |
| 09:17.38 | VIad | it's like if I am at 1mil hp, I use my 25% buff I get 1.25mil hp. I take some damage, I am put to 500k hp. the buff expires. I am still left at 500k hp instead of rescaling my health down by 25% as you'd expect |
| 09:27.24 | VIad | in any case that buff should just give a flat 25% max hp buff as you apply it until it expires, and don't have this ticking internal behavior except when you change maps :p as you have to change maps to enter areas the buff says it wont work :p |
| 09:27.37 | VIad | I wonder who programmed this and didn't test it properly |
| 09:28.00 | VIad | as healing tank I didn't realize this until I aggroed a ton of bears and just afked for a sec for others to come tag, and noticed i healed a lot :p |
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| 09:39.52 | VIad | Semlar: what is it called. like the stats changes scale your hp by % but the old system like changed the values without scaling |
| 09:50.06 | VIad | when applied it scales by %, when removed it simply removes the upper limit bonus but keeps your current health at the value it was |
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| 10:03.27 | modernist | weird |
| 10:03.28 | modernist | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/588log/secret_71_boss_endgineer_omegaplugg/ |
| 10:03.43 | Shockah|Work | thought it may be fake |
| 10:03.47 | Shockah|Work | but it's on mmo-champion too |
| 10:04.34 | modernist | seems an odd addition |
| 10:04.45 | VIad | why not? drops a toy! :D |
| 10:04.52 | modernist | i mean, cool! i love the odd little vanilla stuff |
| 10:05.01 | Shockah|Work | "drops a toy" |
| 10:05.05 | Shockah|Work | if you can beat it that is |
| 10:05.23 | VIad | should be able to if I do >= m+10 |
| 10:05.27 | Shockah|Work | since apparently even a party of 870-880 geared people couldn't do it |
| 10:05.32 | VIad | even with the bugged tyrranical from two weeks ago :p |
| 10:05.39 | VIad | interesting |
| 10:05.43 | VIad | a challenge! |
| 10:06.35 | modernist | oh there's a unique hunter pet in there too, reading the comments back |
| 10:06.58 | modernist | so maybe its tied to the island stuff |
| 10:07.31 | Shockah|Work | modernist, that was in since the pre-patch though |
| 10:07.36 | modernist | oh |
| 10:07.37 | Shockah|Work | was it... a wolf? i think |
| 10:07.41 | Shockah|Work | mechanical wolf |
| 10:07.42 | modernist | a robo dog |
| 10:09.41 | VIad | silly. hunters cant TAME robots |
| 10:12.01 | Shockah|Work | yeah they reconfigure them |
| 10:12.11 | Shockah|Work | #engineers |
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| 10:39.15 | VIad | so you need engineering on the hunter to tame them? |
| 10:41.46 | Shockah|Work | no |
| 10:42.20 | Shockah|Work | you need to either be a gnome/goblin, or get an engineer to craft you a Mecha-Bond Imprint Matrix or whatever it was called so you can "learn" how to "tame" mechanicals |
| 10:42.30 | VIad | should be a engineering hunter exclusive :p |
| 10:42.41 | Shockah|Work | would be super cool |
| 10:42.45 | Shockah|Work | but also super sad for other hunters |
| 10:42.54 | Shockah|Work | inb4 jewelcrafting hunter exclusive |
| 10:45.47 | nevcairiel | 7.1.0.22864 already has GetPlayerFacing back, TheDanW works fast :) thanks! |
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| 12:04.40 | nebula | oh shit, 7.1 removes the stripped down raid player menus, so we can go back to using the secure menu without set focus erroring |
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| 12:09.28 | Shockah|Work | nebula, where do you find API-related changes anyway? |
| 12:10.53 | nebula | just noticed it in the framexml while i was updating related stuff |
| 12:30.20 | VIad | is the encounter journal still erroring on certain depth levels? |
| 12:31.57 | znf | Stanzilla, oh, Shadow Nerf? |
| 12:32.07 | znf | the 240 -> 220 spell power change |
| 12:32.15 | znf | actually, lots of shadow nerfs |
| 12:32.52 | znf | oh, what a joke, all nerfs are roughly 10%, to compensate for the Shadowform buff |
| 12:33.30 | znf | And here we tought we actually getting buffed by the "new" Shadowform |
| 12:34.18 | VIad | it's a buffnerf :d |
| 12:34.33 | znf | we tought, "hey, we're getting +10% more damage with Shadowform" |
| 12:34.37 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 12:34.49 | znf | now they're, like, "nope, removing 10% from other abilities" |
| 12:34.49 | znf | :-/ |
| 12:35.15 | VIad | http://i.imgur.com/gdlEblb.jpg |
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| 12:50.09 | Stanzilla | well shadow dmg was fine in raids |
| 12:50.17 | Stanzilla | so it's ok |
| 12:52.25 | pompy | holy lag |
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| 13:14.05 | VIad | warcraftlogs only log 15 timed completions? |
| 13:14.18 | VIad | I've uploaded a lot of 1-10 timed runs but nothing is ever logged on my character profile :p |
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| 13:25.45 | nevcairiel | nebula: indeed it does, i asked dan specifically to fix that, and he did :D |
| 13:26.10 | Stanzilla | obviously only because YOU asked |
| 13:26.16 | nevcairiel | clearly |
| 13:26.27 | VIad | yes, Stanzilla |
| 13:26.29 | nevcairiel | i asked and suggested a specific code change to make it work |
| 13:26.33 | nevcairiel | and exactly that change showed up |
| 13:26.35 | nevcairiel | so you tell me |
| 13:26.36 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:26.44 | VIad | what does it do now? z-axis? |
| 13:26.45 | Stanzilla | no it's ok |
| 13:26.48 | Stanzilla | enjoy your happy moment! |
| 13:26.51 | nebula | i remember us talking about it when him here, i just didn't realize it was actually changed |
| 13:27.00 | nebula | s/when/with/ |
| 13:27.59 | nevcairiel | its really a good deal to have open lines of communication again, sure has helped a lot in 7.0 |
| 13:28.27 | nevcairiel | and if you make reasonable requests they are very open to listening, in my experience :) |
| 13:29.11 | VIad | you mean dan/guill specifically :p |
| 13:29.17 | Stanzilla | yeah it's miles better than what we had before |
| 13:29.24 | Stanzilla | which was basically tell Cairenn to email someone and pray |
| 13:30.08 | VIad | I still like to think I was one of the reasons the ingame "knowledge base" was overhauled :p |
| 13:30.20 | nevcairiel | people use that? |
| 13:30.32 | Stanzilla | *used |
| 13:30.48 | VIad | old one was shit. but you could with a simple hosts file edit make it communicate with the internet :p |
| 13:32.45 | VIad | still limited to GET web requests but could make a server and addon for UI to browse wowhead comments directly about anything ingame - that was what I did when testing it out for fun |
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| 13:35.08 | VIad | new one is better, think it uses the servers to resolve domains instead of the local dns :p |
| 13:36.29 | znf | <VIad> I still like to think I was one of the reasons the ingame "knowledge base" was overhauled :p |
| 13:36.35 | znf | there's an in-game knowledge base?! |
| 13:37.20 | VIad | yes :p pre-overhaul |
| 13:38.13 | nevcairiel | hmm AK10 in about 50 minutes, i should go watch some tv until then and then go do the world boss |
| 13:38.21 | VIad | :3 |
| 13:39.38 | znf | Why is everyone doing voice clients? |
| 13:39.45 | VIad | because they are dank |
| 13:40.10 | modernist | world boss this week was a realisation that i am really sick of dodging shit on the floor |
| 13:40.22 | VIad | did you have to dodge anything on it? |
| 13:40.28 | VIad | I was afk on phone off my pc since pull xd |
| 13:40.36 | VIad | came back at 100% and under the boss - alive ofc |
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| 13:40.48 | modernist | lol well, yeah, i mean, its a world boss â you can afk it |
| 13:40.50 | VIad | but I think it was my buggy buff that healed me 25% max hp ever y5 sec that helped :p |
| 13:41.22 | modernist | but still, were raid mechanics always _quite_ so reliant on dodging splats of vomit on the floor |
| 13:42.11 | VIad | after volcanic I am kind of avoiding anything really fast on habit |
| 13:42.21 | modernist | youre a melee though |
| 13:42.50 | modernist | probably just feels increasingly tedious having played a caster since TBC |
| 13:43.01 | Ammako | it sucks as a caster |
| 13:43.02 | VIad | xd |
| 13:43.20 | Ammako | every melee and hunters can just continue attacking |
| 13:43.33 | Seeker | modernist: you remember the safety dance? :P |
| 13:43.35 | Ammako | caster has to pretty much stop doing any damage and just move until it's over |
| 13:43.46 | modernist | is there really any kind of melee equivalent that can delay or interrupt your rotation in the same way? |
| 13:44.00 | Seeker | modernist: rot on the first boss |
| 13:44.06 | modernist | true |
| 13:44.13 | modernist | stuns occasionally |
| 13:44.23 | modernist | or yeah, boss aoe stuff |
| 13:44.32 | modernist | first boss in maw springs to mind |
| 13:44.33 | Seeker | dodging roots on cenarius, dealing with the AoE from the sisters there |
| 13:45.02 | modernist | but still, it doesnt feel close to 1:1 in terms of the same risk/reward between the two types |
| 13:45.23 | Seeker | Ranged have the advantage of not having to move to switch targets |
| 13:45.34 | Seeker | or having to move less |
| 13:45.45 | modernist | this is true |
| 13:46.03 | modernist | less fighting with camera 2.0 too |
| 13:46.53 | znf | Who placed this mob? Seriously... http://i.imgur.com/UGvy9an.png |
| 13:47.00 | znf | s/mob/npc |
| 13:47.33 | VIad | I am fighting archaeology |
| 13:47.44 | VIad | running, I see the buff/effect, dig, it's 2 yards behind me |
| 13:47.53 | Seeker | znf: I like your npc names |
| 13:48.04 | znf | I like them, too |
| 13:48.09 | Seeker | which font is that? |
| 13:48.19 | znf | default from Kesava's nameplates |
| 13:48.22 | znf | let me see |
| 13:48.31 | znf | Francoisone |
| 13:48.34 | znf | FrancoisOne |
| 13:48.51 | Seeker | modernist: Across several guilds, I've noticed that ranged players tend to be slower to react to things than melee |
| 13:48.54 | Seeker | znf: thanks |
| 13:49.19 | modernist | is it the nameplates giving it that dropshadow? |
| 13:49.22 | znf | yes |
| 13:49.27 | znf | those are nameplates |
| 13:49.27 | modernist | makes sense |
| 13:49.42 | VIad | I dislike people using custom nameplates now with legions good once |
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| 13:49.50 | Ammako | perfect example |
| 13:50.05 | VIad | default nameplates show when other people silence, stun, and the duration |
| 13:50.15 | znf | the default ones are meh-ish |
| 13:50.17 | Ammako | stuff like toxic wound on serpentrix |
| 13:50.19 | VIad | so its easier for others with default nameplates to see that too and time their own stuns |
| 13:50.23 | modernist | i had to make the default ones wayyyyy more visible |
| 13:50.32 | Ammako | just follows the player and it lasts a lil bit |
| 13:50.43 | VIad | custom nameplates dont give a shit about CC debuffs on targets and they dont show it, so people usually overlap their CCs :p |
| 13:50.44 | modernist | all the borders & stuff are incredibly counter-intuitive in terms of information read |
| 13:50.45 | Ammako | hunter will just shrug it off and move while attacking, melee may be able to do the same |
| 13:50.55 | Ammako | regular caster? you cant do anything but move until its gone |
| 13:51.06 | Ammako | while stuff like the shadow attack thing on first boss of maw of souls, as melee |
| 13:51.13 | Ammako | you just run out for a sec then you charge back in and youre ok |
| 13:51.15 | Seeker | Ammako: eugh, melee can't. Because they run in a circle around the boss, and then you have a circle of "DONT STAND IN ME" surrounding the boss |
| 13:51.17 | Ammako | doesnt feel as annoying |
| 13:51.20 | znf | VIad, I don't care about Shockwave on targets. |
| 13:51.26 | znf | And I don't care about a lot of debuffs on the targets. |
| 13:51.27 | VIad | in >= m+10 you do |
| 13:51.28 | Ammako | a lotof melee also have some ranged :p |
| 13:51.35 | znf | I have my custom weak auras for that |
| 13:51.36 | VIad | default nameplates ONLY show other peoples CC effects |
| 13:51.38 | Ammako | therefore, "may" |
| 13:51.54 | VIad | you wont see their moonfires :p |
| 13:51.59 | Seeker | Ammako: a lot of ranged have some instant cast |
| 13:52.29 | Ammako | ok then maybe that wasnt a good example just because of the stuff it leaves on the floor |
| 13:52.35 | VIad | default nameplates are really good IMO |
| 13:52.37 | Ammako | but my point stands, that kind of boss ability |
| 13:52.46 | Ammako | where you get followed by something and it just blasts the spot you stand on |
| 13:52.52 | VIad | and most importantly functionality wise good for gameplay :p |
| 13:53.08 | Seeker | Ammako: if you've got more than 1 melee in the group you can't stand there with most AoE, because you just nuke the other melee |
| 13:53.11 | znf | VIad, they're not customizeable |
| 13:53.13 | Seeker | or, worse, the tank |
| 13:53.14 | znf | So they're useless |
| 13:53.21 | znf | Anything that's not customizeable it's useless. |
| 13:53.22 | Ammako | then the other melee also move to avoid it |
| 13:53.35 | Seeker | that depends on how big the mob is |
| 13:53.36 | VIad | wow UI is customizable otherwise you wouldnt be able to use addons - check mate |
| 13:53.52 | znf | hence custom addons, custom nameplates |
| 13:53.53 | Seeker | there's only a (relatively) small 'melee' area |
| 13:54.09 | VIad | then at least try to bring the default functionality over |
| 13:54.21 | VIad | I asked why do you stack CC on top of my aoe silence? |
| 13:54.29 | VIad | they said they dont see my CC debuff on their nameplates |
| 13:54.50 | Ammako | as rogue i dont have so much trouble with it, the melee range on that boss doesnt require you to be super close |
| 13:54.52 | VIad | because shit nameplate addons dont give AF to add other players "important" debuffs on it :p |
| 13:55.09 | Seeker | Ammako: any effect that does non-trivial damage to others means that melee do effectively nothing if they get targetted with it |
| 13:55.09 | znf | then you give them this: https://wago.io/4y1LsyTp- |
| 13:55.37 | znf | VIad, outside of Mythic+, I don't care of seeing other people's stuns/silences/whatever on nameplates |
| 13:55.48 | VIad | you dont if they arent in your group though |
| 13:55.56 | modernist | exhibit a: http://i.pi.gy/RxeV.png |
| 13:55.57 | VIad | or so I dont think you see other outside group debuffs :p |
| 13:56.06 | Seeker | Ammako: it's still a thing for people to only want ranged for their groups |
| 13:56.06 | modernist | exhibit b: http://i.pi.gy/9o9Q.png |
| 13:56.27 | modernist | the default ones just seem so squished |
| 13:56.34 | znf | VIad, ...that's my point |
| 13:56.46 | znf | while I raid or do random dungeons, I don't want ANYONE ELSE's debuffs on my nameplates |
| 13:57.08 | VIad | so you dont care about the duration of the silence so you can time yours better or something? |
| 13:57.21 | znf | There's other ways of seeing the duration of silences :) |
| 13:57.25 | znf | Not just nameplates |
| 13:57.31 | znf | I have it on my target frames :) |
| 13:57.43 | VIad | most people just load elvui and use it out of the box |
| 13:57.51 | VIad | and it probably hides all debuffs that arent yours standard |
| 13:57.55 | VIad | thats bad choice imo :p |
| 13:58.09 | znf | blame it on ElvUI, then |
| 13:58.16 | VIad | addons |
| 13:58.17 | VIad | :p |
| 13:58.22 | znf | I don't like people using ElvUI, for the most of it |
| 13:58.26 | VIad | probably 90% of all nameplate addons do the same |
| 13:58.34 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/ELJV5aU.png |
| 13:58.35 | znf | See? |
| 13:59.38 | modernist | luckily the oUF aura filter can quickly be changed to use the new nameplateONLY boolean |
| 13:59.53 | modernist | or w/e its designated as |
| 14:00.42 | VIad | nameplate addons should try keep the aura info the same as blizz and add options to customize it on top |
| 14:00.56 | Seeker | I thought Elv showed others CC |
| 14:01.29 | VIad | no clue. and if people kept using the same SV it could be they turned it off and had no idea about the changes :p |
| 14:02.21 | znf | For the love of fuck |
| 14:02.31 | znf | Why aren't they making Void Bolt refresh on fucking cast |
| 14:02.32 | znf | god damn it |
| 14:02.38 | Seeker | I need to work out why my game keeps crashing with reading null pointers when I /reloadui |
| 14:03.10 | znf | Seeker, dead symlinks? |
| 14:03.35 | VIad | MFW archaeology node is on the same place 4 times in a row WTF :D |
| 14:03.37 | Seeker | I don't have any symlinks set up |
| 14:18.45 | VIad | weird gfycat dont let me specify what part I wanna cut to :/ |
| 14:18.55 | VIad | it like uploads and just shows the first 15 sec :p |
| 14:26.22 | mckenziemc | cut before uploading |
| 14:26.32 | mckenziemc | lazy bum |
| 14:29.04 | VIad | I wish the client to be quicker to tell me when I am on the thingy :( https://gfycat.com/LeanAcademicDutchshepherddog |
| 14:29.19 | VIad | like have the server tell the client where the next is so the client can quicker show the animation thing :p |
| 14:29.48 | Seeker | VIad: yeah, that wouldn't be explotable at all :P |
| 14:29.57 | Ammako | its so annoying when that happens |
| 14:30.03 | VIad | people that exploit already do by mapping out the nodes and having bots do the farming |
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| 14:30.15 | VIad | I dont think its really a huge bot issue :p |
| 14:30.28 | VIad | already seen herb bots on my realm, same guy always in suramar in his route :p |
| 14:32.32 | VIad | anyway would be nice if you arent punished for being fast on your feet like felrush ;p |
| 14:32.45 | VIad | the alert should come up asap you are inside the radius :) |
| 14:33.32 | mckenziemc | if you want faster why aren't you using https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/arh |
| 14:34.25 | VIad | the new feature is nice, just needs to tell me faster :p |
| 14:34.36 | VIad | atm it works best if you have good ping and dont run faster than 100% movement speed :p |
| 14:34.43 | mckenziemc | and instantly end your jump |
| 14:34.48 | VIad | as soon you have more lag or using some speed things you can often miss it |
| 14:36.12 | VIad | this weeks arch thing was highly disapointing |
| 14:36.27 | VIad | 5000 gold junk item. i could have farmed herbs in this time and made 20k gold :p |
| 14:36.39 | Ammako | such is archaeology in legion |
| 14:36.43 | Ammako | somehow even worse |
| 14:37.12 | VIad | the polearm was good until they nerfed it :p |
| 14:37.48 | mckenziemc | can't you write an addon to remember where you last surveyed so you can start moving while you indicate what color it was, then it can tell you client-side when you're about to enter the next area (and even when to stop spam jumping) ? |
| 14:38.02 | Seeker | isn't that what Archy does? |
| 14:38.19 | mckenziemc | if it's been improved |
| 14:38.32 | Seeker | hasn't it always done that? |
| 14:38.35 | mckenziemc | last i used it you had to stand still if you wanted the area to be accurate |
| 14:38.48 | VIad | if the argument is to use addons then you can say the whole detect feature is obscolete too then :p |
| 14:39.08 | VIad | I am saying they can further improve it to be quicker and it will be great |
| 14:39.24 | mckenziemc | use addons or don't complain about stock UI! |
| 14:40.14 | VIad | pokes a hole in mckenziemc. |
| 14:41.08 | mckenziemc | hands VIad a Make DefaultUI Great Again(tm) hat. |
| 14:41.11 | Thunder_Child | I don't think he needs more holes. |
| 14:41.28 | Ammako | just me or the "Is There a Medic in the Zone?" achievement not working? Credit never gets registered |
| 14:43.39 | nevcairiel | yeah that one is broken |
| 14:44.14 | Stanzilla | it registers until you relog |
| 14:44.18 | Stanzilla | then everything is gone again |
| 14:46.06 | znf | I'm still amazed people still do archaeology :D |
| 14:48.39 | Stanzilla | new monitor arrives saturday |
| 14:48.41 | Stanzilla | killll meeee |
| 14:48.51 | Stanzilla | why znf |
| 14:49.04 | Ammako | thanks to blizzard thinking that it's a good thing for world quest rewards not to be loot spec-dependent |
| 14:49.08 | Stanzilla | I do it for the achievements |
| 14:49.13 | Ammako | my Fury artifact is now higher ilv than my prot shield |
| 14:49.15 | nevcairiel | you haven o backup Stanzilla? |
| 14:49.27 | Ammako | even though i will not play fury and i really need to get my shield up higher |
| 14:49.33 | Stanzilla | who, apart from you, has backup screens :D |
| 14:49.56 | nevcairiel | well when you buy a new one, the old one usually doesnt just destroy itself |
| 14:50.06 | Stanzilla | my oldest one died |
| 14:50.09 | Stanzilla | and I only had 2 |
| 14:50.18 | Stanzilla | it survived 10 years or so |
| 14:50.20 | Thunder_Child | Only 2? Crazy. |
| 14:50.42 | znf | I have only one! |
| 14:51.45 | nevcairiel | well you are a poor gypsy |
| 14:51.51 | znf | :-( |
| 14:52.01 | znf | ...which can't find rent |
| 14:52.06 | Thunder_Child | Must be a laptop. |
| 14:52.09 | nevcairiel | and saturday is even late delivery Stanzilla |
| 14:52.20 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 14:52.34 | Stanzilla | ordered yesterday |
| 14:52.44 | nevcairiel | should've picked a faster shop |
| 14:52.52 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 14:52.54 | Stanzilla | it's a DELL P2417H |
| 14:52.58 | Stanzilla | let's hope I'm not disappointed |
| 14:53.05 | nevcairiel | ew 24" |
| 14:53.19 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 14:53.46 | Thunder_Child | I'm disappointed for you. |
| 14:54.00 | Stanzilla | main screen is 27 |
| 14:54.05 | Stanzilla | the plan was 24 27 24 |
| 14:54.12 | Stanzilla | but was ruined by this thing dying |
| 14:54.14 | nevcairiel | i still have one 24" 16:10 screen, but that one is some old fuck |
| 14:54.27 | nevcairiel | would probably go 27 when it needs replacing |
| 14:54.47 | Thunder_Child | I still have 2 24" but they sit above my 3 other screens. |
| 14:55.11 | Stanzilla | are you a broker |
| 14:55.14 | Stanzilla | or why do you need 5 |
| 14:55.28 | Thunder_Child | I don't need 5. I just like screen realestate. |
| 14:55.40 | Thunder_Child | real estate* |
| 14:57.07 | Stanzilla | mkay |
| 14:57.17 | nevcairiel | i'm happy with my 3 |
| 14:58.46 | Thunder_Child | I really want 3 30" but the price jump from 27/28 to 30 is silly. |
| 14:59.08 | Stanzilla | 30 is too big for me |
| 14:59.16 | Thunder_Child | No comment. |
| 14:59.19 | Stanzilla | : ) |
| 14:59.23 | mckenziemc | 27, 28, and 30 are all silly |
| 15:00.07 | Thunder_Child | I used to have 3 30" at work, but now I am down to 1 30" and 1 24". I am le sad. |
| 15:00.13 | znf | I have 27" |
| 15:00.14 | znf | I like it |
| 15:00.23 | nevcairiel | i had a 30 16:10 screen for a while, but when I wanted to get a GSYNC gaming screen I exchanged it for a 27" 16:9, which is basically the same width, just less height |
| 15:01.36 | mckenziemc | TIL Thunder_Child wishes he had 30 inches. |
| 15:02.10 | VIad | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 15:02.31 | VIad | sounds impractical to walk around with that :p |
| 15:03.10 | Thunder_Child | Ignoring the fact that you would more than likely pass out whenever you got 'happy'. |
| 15:03.45 | VIad | never able to make love because passing out :( |
| 15:04.02 | VIad | such cruel fate |
| 15:04.13 | mckenziemc | repurpose a portable ventilator |
| 15:04.26 | VIad | luckily easier to cut of a bit and make it shorter than to make it longer :p |
| 15:06.16 | VIad | "let me do some random BGs for weekly. it's okay that I havent excluded eye of the storm, what are the odds?" *gets eye of the storm* |
| 15:06.49 | nevcairiel | unfortunately there is 3 BGs that suck |
| 15:06.50 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:07.36 | VIad | ye :p |
| 15:07.41 | VIad | whats on your list? |
| 15:07.43 | VIad | of suckage |
| 15:07.51 | nevcairiel | Strand, Isles a nd EotS |
| 15:07.57 | mckenziemc | anything VIad's in |
| 15:08.09 | nevcairiel | In concept I generally like Isle, but its usually just a lagfest that takes all the fun out of it |
| 15:08.10 | VIad | pokes another hole in mckenziemc. |
| 15:08.45 | znf | My last 10 webbed victims were all nightborne shit |
| 15:08.51 | znf | I fucking hate that quest |
| 15:09.04 | Simca | not as bad as seal clubbin |
| 15:09.17 | znf | why? the seal clubbing is straight forward |
| 15:09.57 | Seeker | The best wqs are the ones where you have to kill 1 mob, and it's already on 10% when you arrive |
| 15:10.14 | nevcairiel | those are awesome |
| 15:10.22 | nevcairiel | one hit and credit |
| 15:11.41 | znf | I dislike this one because there's huge competition for the mobs, they are not 100%, and it's not "multi tap" |
| 15:11.49 | znf | and it's spread over a fucking huge area |
| 15:16.41 | ls- | damn... tooltip:SetPvpTalent, that "Pvp"... |
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| 15:21.06 | znf | what's the weekly quest btw? |
| 15:21.25 | nevcairiel | battlegrounds |
| 15:21.40 | znf | how many do I have to win? >_< |
| 15:25.02 | VIad | 4 znf |
| 15:25.07 | VIad | also we won 1500/1500 >_> |
| 15:25.13 | VIad | 2/2 bases EOTS |
| 15:25.21 | VIad | I was #3 healer as DH tank ,_, |
| 15:25.32 | znf | does it give +AP? |
| 15:25.34 | VIad | they had like top 10 DPS on the list, weird we won |
| 15:25.37 | Seeker | I may have to try BGs with my feint-heals legs |
| 15:25.40 | VIad | 750 AP |
| 15:25.41 | znf | I'm not done with my quests |
| 15:25.49 | Seeker | or don't they work in BGs? |
| 15:25.56 | VIad | 9 AK rank |
| 15:26.03 | VIad | dunno |
| 15:26.14 | VIad | I know my trinkets are not enabled :p |
| 15:26.26 | VIad | legendary neck, and such |
| 15:27.37 | Seeker | if the legendary system is fair/balanced, then surely the legendaries should be enabled in all pvp? |
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| 15:27.52 | znf | no procs work in BGs |
| 15:28.25 | nevcairiel | BG disables almost everything because they wanted to take gear out of it entirely |
| 15:28.29 | nevcairiel | well almost entirely |
| 15:28.43 | VIad | they halfed my self healing or more |
| 15:28.46 | VIad | thats a huge bummer :/ |
| 15:29.31 | znf | you mean 4750 VIad |
| 15:29.33 | znf | with AK10 |
| 15:29.41 | VIad | I got 750 with AK 9 :p |
| 15:30.03 | Ammako | what the hell |
| 15:30.36 | Ammako | https://puu.sh/rOmuW/df8fdc08b2.jpg |
| 15:30.39 | Ammako | I dont -have- mining |
| 15:31.07 | nevcairiel | maybe your char picked it up while you were sleeping |
| 15:31.13 | foxlit | the game is telling you to get mining. |
| 15:31.17 | foxlit | who are you to question it? :) |
| 15:31.27 | Ammako | interesting, a minute or two later that world quest disappeared from the map |
| 15:31.42 | Ammako | but now im having the same thing show up on my warrior for skinning |
| 15:31.46 | Ammako | and they disappeared after a few seconds |
| 15:32.13 | Ammako | game is gettign confused when i hop between hunter and warrior |
| 15:33.34 | Ammako | i dont remember seeing this happen before today |
| 15:34.39 | VIad | use the thingy to instant complete it |
| 15:34.39 | VIad | ;D |
| 15:34.46 | VIad | easy 5x infernal brimstones |
| 15:34.52 | VIad | not that they are worth a shit :p |
| 15:34.56 | VIad | only herbs are these days |
| 15:35.11 | Ammako | whatever they did last night must have broken something |
| 15:35.34 | VIad | btw we won 2 BGs |
| 15:35.38 | VIad | the quest registered only one :/ |
| 15:35.39 | VIad | WTF blizz |
| 15:35.49 | VIad | why? |
| 15:36.02 | VIad | I made sure it said "Alliance wins" on the top of the scoreboard |
| 15:36.15 | Ammako | also i swear i had a WQ for an iron relic on my rogue |
| 15:36.36 | Ammako | wasnt anywhere close to expiring but i logged back onto my rogue to check it and it was gone |
| 15:36.38 | Simca | they can rotate a little bit on weekly change |
| 15:36.54 | Simca | i know blizzard said they shouldn't, but they definitely do |
| 15:36.58 | Ammako | i mean it was there just 15-20 minutes ago |
| 15:37.07 | Simca | oh, idk then |
| 15:37.52 | Ammako | looks like it's related to this weird bug with my profession WQs... once a minute of server time passes and the time remaining on WQs updates, the whole map refreshes |
| 15:38.12 | Ammako | and quests that werent there reappear, those that werent supposed to be there disappear |
| 15:39.12 | Ammako | see, i completed a couple WQs on other characters. then when i hop to another character, it still uses previous characters' world quests on the map until a minute server-side passed and timers refresh |
| 15:39.16 | znf | wtb legendary :( |
| 15:39.33 | Simca | i got the shit CC ring last night |
| 15:39.39 | Simca | it's not an upgrade |
| 15:39.41 | Ammako | did WQ for a relic on my warrior, that's the same WQ my rogue has that shows iron relic. if i log onto my rogue after having logged onto my warrior, the quest acts as if its been completed |
| 15:39.44 | Simca | now it's in my bank |
| 15:39.50 | Ammako | then the map refreshes and the WQ reappears |
| 15:39.51 | Simca | and I'm still 'wtb legendary' |
| 15:40.20 | znf | I could use the CC ring |
| 15:41.19 | Simca | haste is a trash stat for holy paladins, so it's like a 25% downgrade |
| 15:42.08 | Simca | and the effect is almost completely useless for paladins in raids |
| 15:42.23 | Simca | i heard a few classes/specs can use their CC even on CC immune targets and it still procs |
| 15:42.30 | Simca | (which sounds like a hell of a bug) |
| 15:42.41 | Simca | but hammer of justice certainly isn't one of those CCs (i tried) |
| 15:44.56 | znf | http://www.wowhead.com/item=137975/pattern-imbued-silkweave-epaulets#comments |
| 15:45.00 | znf | Are you fucking kidding me |
| 15:45.12 | znf | You get a pattern... from rated battlegrounds? |
| 15:45.39 | foxlit | why not? |
| 15:46.02 | znf | There's a small % of players which actually do RBGs :-/ |
| 15:47.01 | VIad | double jumping sometimes DCes youits BULLSHIT |
| 15:47.05 | VIad | especially in pvp :/ |
| 15:47.09 | VIad | DH thing |
| 15:47.19 | VIad | server apparently dont like some movement behavior with DJ or gliding |
| 15:47.28 | nevcairiel | so if you want to save the 4 arkhana, you better do the RBG |
| 15:47.59 | nevcairiel | i see nothing wrong with having rank 3 recipes behind diverse requirements in the game, having 3 is hardly mandatory |
| 15:48.19 | znf | nevcairiel, all rank3 removes the need to go to fucking suramar to craft them |
| 15:48.33 | nevcairiel | well tough for you! |
| 15:48.50 | nevcairiel | gear crafting professions are mostly useless either way |
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| 15:48.52 | nevcairiel | but what can you do |
| 15:49.07 | znf | I don't need that, anyway, I was just looking at what I was missing |
| 15:52.32 | VIad | all rank 3 does for my engineering one is I dont have to buy 5 blunderbuss but 3 :P |
| 15:52.39 | VIad | it's retardedly bad for engineering, rank 3 is useless shit |
| 15:52.58 | VIad | rather take a cactus rectally than to farm rank 3s for engineering |
| 15:54.05 | znf | I haven't even finished the quest line for engineering |
| 15:54.36 | VIad | it's shit |
| 15:54.51 | VIad | nothing new of real value, all the old stuff better in most cases :p |
| 15:55.48 | znf | they actually nerfed Walter, btw |
| 15:55.53 | znf | can't use it in Legion content |
| 15:56.10 | VIad | :/ |
| 15:56.16 | VIad | at least jeeves still works |
| 15:56.27 | nevcairiel | is walter the guy you can buy from the vendor? |
| 15:56.50 | znf | yeah |
| 15:57.01 | znf | the one from the garrison |
| 15:57.11 | nevcairiel | too bnad |
| 15:57.22 | znf | victim of a stealth nerf |
| 15:57.22 | nevcairiel | i toyed with the idea of just replacing some building and getting that one |
| 15:57.47 | Simca | it is consistent with their 'make professions important, nerf things that hurt profession fantasy' |
| 15:57.48 | znf | I used it in Mythic+ dungeon |
| 15:58.03 | Simca | a nerf to walter is a buff to jeeves in their eyes |
| 15:58.04 | VIad | also WTF is this shit? camera is retarded... I have to stop turning for it to correct itself :/ https://gfycat.com/EasygoingWearyAmericancurl |
| 15:58.15 | znf | but I tried it 2 nights ago in the raid and suddenly, wrong zone |
| 15:58.23 | znf | I used to have both jeeves and walter... |
| 15:58.27 | znf | as an engineer |
| 15:58.35 | znf | because they didn't share cooldowns |
| 15:58.43 | Simca | VIad: that's a UI option under Camera |
| 15:58.47 | nevcairiel | if you want things without a cooldown, you can build the one-time-use wrath thingys |
| 15:58.50 | Simca | 'follow character while turning' or something like that |
| 15:58.52 | nevcairiel | cost a handful of saronite |
| 15:59.00 | nevcairiel | on like 15m cooldown |
| 15:59.02 | VIad | it wasnt like this yesterday |
| 15:59.05 | znf | do those still work, tough? :D |
| 15:59.10 | nevcairiel | worked in mop? |
| 15:59.11 | nevcairiel | er |
| 15:59.13 | nevcairiel | in wod |
| 15:59.13 | VIad | I have always used, ALWAYS, only horizontaly when moving |
| 15:59.24 | nevcairiel | and they are locked to an engineer |
| 15:59.57 | VIad | turning should turn camera asap like yesterday |
| 16:00.06 | VIad | did blizz upload a hotfix that fucked up my camera? |
| 16:00.17 | VIad | gonna relog to see if its not some weird BG/vehicle bug |
| 16:00.29 | VIad | yes it was |
| 16:00.31 | VIad | fixed now, phew |
| 16:00.39 | znf | oh, someoen put down a blingtron 6000 |
| 16:00.49 | nevcairiel | i saw one once in dalaran |
| 16:01.12 | VIad | oh nevcairiel did you notice HBD can't place markers in new dalaran? |
| 16:01.27 | VIad | if I add a marker like tomtom it points somewhere not in dalaran :p |
| 16:01.36 | nevcairiel | might be tomtoms fault |
| 16:01.44 | nevcairiel | dalaran is special as its an outdoor zone with levels |
| 16:01.51 | VIad | I use HBD for my addon too |
| 16:01.56 | Simca | HBD has issues with margoss' retreat |
| 16:01.59 | VIad | and it too can't add my points in dalaran |
| 16:02.01 | Simca | i know that much |
| 16:02.10 | VIad | atm at krasus' landing |
| 16:02.19 | VIad | also regular dalaran map is level 10 :p |
| 16:02.25 | VIad | but still HBD wont place the pin there |
| 16:02.31 | VIad | or on any level I tested |
| 16:02.31 | Simca | the retreat is on no map but shows dalaran map |
| 16:02.42 | Simca | so you get coords like -200 or something lol |
| 16:02.54 | Simca | don't think there's any way to fix that tho |
| 16:02.54 | VIad | ah yes that one |
| 16:03.14 | znf | jeeez |
| 16:03.19 | znf | 5000g for a stack of saronite bar :o |
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| 16:03.26 | nevcairiel | works with HandyNotes, which uses HBD |
| 16:03.31 | nevcairiel | so i'm calling wrong API usage |
| 16:03.32 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 16:03.55 | Simca | maybe they're trying to set it in dalaran by name |
| 16:03.56 | VIad | I use the same API the same way for all the world |
| 16:03.59 | Simca | tomtom supports that |
| 16:04.07 | VIad | it's my candy buckets addon |
| 16:04.10 | Simca | and has issues if zones have the same name |
| 16:04.16 | VIad | shows fine in the other places |
| 16:04.27 | nevcairiel | yeah if it uses by name its likely it comes out in original dalaran |
| 16:04.31 | VIad | I am giving it the area ID |
| 16:04.44 | nevcairiel | well are you also giving it the level? :d |
| 16:04.51 | VIad | ye |
| 16:04.54 | VIad | tried with all the levels |
| 16:04.56 | VIad | doesnt work |
| 16:05.33 | nevcairiel | http://i.imgur.com/SVf4bIX.jpg HandyNotes pin comes out fine, both on the map and the minimap |
| 16:05.35 | VIad | (1014, 10, 0.5, 0.5) |
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| 16:07.36 | VIad | is it weird for you too nevcairiel? area 1014, level 10, middle of map |
| 16:11.32 | nevcairiel | http://pastebin.com/z9sdcW7i |
| 16:11.35 | nevcairiel | shows up on my map |
| 16:15.36 | VIad | very strange :/ |
| 16:15.39 | Ammako | anyone have the cc ring on a rogue |
| 16:18.02 | Simca | a friend does |
| 16:18.16 | Simca | apparently it procs on gouge even if the target is immune to CC |
| 16:18.43 | Simca | which given how it doesn't for actual stuns, seems like a huge bug |
| 16:19.02 | Simca | but they may not bother to fix it because the ring is so garbage that fixing it would be make it even worse |
| 16:19.15 | Simca | might redesign it at the same time they fix it |
| 16:20.53 | Ammako | im mainly wondering if it procs on nightblade |
| 16:20.58 | Ammako | when the target gets slowed by it |
| 16:22.09 | Ammako | then at least, if i get that ring, i wont be horribly disappointed |
| 16:22.41 | nevcairiel | its probably not too bad of a ring if you use it in m+, since the trash can generally be CCed, but in raids its just useless |
| 16:25.44 | Ammako | i probably wont be doing raids outside of lfr |
| 16:25.57 | Ammako | but movement speed and haste in world content sounds like nice quality of life |
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| 16:30.36 | modernist | vaguely tempted to blow all my bonus roll coins on the world boss to try and get the fire relic |
| 16:30.48 | modernist | seems like it might be regrettable though |
| 16:34.16 | VIad | nevcairiel: using the beta HBD or something? |
| 16:38.56 | Ammako | i -need- that fire relic |
| 16:39.16 | Ammako | can you actually use more than one roll in the same week on world bosses though |
| 16:40.23 | Ammako | i know kazzak you couldnt couldnt you |
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| 16:47.27 | Simca_ | pretty sure they fixed it so you can't |
| 16:53.48 | Ammako | if i can get the relic ill be happy |
| 16:54.07 | Ammako | my shield desperatedly needs a fire relic |
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| 16:54.53 | Ammako | need blood relic too but those never show up anywhere so meh |
| 16:55.58 | modernist | :[ |
| 16:56.22 | modernist | i got a really decent one from ilgynoth last week so i shouldnt complain |
| 16:56.32 | Ammako | until i randomly got a titanfoged +35 one from a heroic dungeon lol. but i need two! |
| 16:56.42 | modernist | exactly! |
| 16:56.52 | kullervo | a guildie looted legendaries on two of his alts today |
| 16:57.01 | Ammako | see |
| 16:57.18 | Ammako | strom'kar had a decent blood relic already, a +40 one |
| 16:57.27 | Ammako | my shield still has a +28 |
| 16:57.35 | Ammako | and then i got that +46 |
| 16:57.55 | Ammako | arms is more important to me so i had to put it in there |
| 16:58.04 | Ammako | and in the end, prot got the short end of the stick |
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| 16:59.21 | Ammako | maybe i should just spam heroics... +36 is better than nothing |
| 17:07.31 | *** join/#wowuidev ls- (~ls@49.49.143.216) |
| 17:07.51 | Ammako | meh i got a -very- shitty ring, and gold from bonus roll :p |
| 17:09.06 | ls- | It'd be cool if tooltips had GetHyperlink method, TheDanW, could you please add one at some point in the future? :D |
| 17:09.31 | Ammako | welp i needed to be fury/prot loot spec to get fire relic, rip me |
| 17:09.49 | ls- | rips Ammako |
| 17:10.21 | Ammako | oh well not as much of a big deal as it would have been if it was a blood relic at least |
| 17:11.45 | TheDanW | ls-: probably not any time soon |
| 17:13.54 | ls- | oh well... T_T |
| 17:20.37 | Thunder_Child | TheDanW: Hire more people to support something you don't 'officially' support. |
| 17:22.30 | Seeker | TheDanW: do you just work on the LUA/C code for the UI? |
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| 17:24.45 | TheDanW | Seeker: primarily, the UI touches a lot of systems so i end up in all sorts of code |
| 17:28.22 | Seeker | TheDanW: what would be the odds of getting a 'better' search system for custom groups, so I could search for (+6 || +7) && (Eye || Maw) |
| 17:29.20 | modernist | ls-: do you have a method for force spawning oUF units to test layout? |
| 17:29.49 | modernist | i have an old script that populates them with data from the player unit but its kind of buggy and doesnt touch the group header |
| 17:30.47 | ls- | modernist: nope T_T |
| 17:30.56 | modernist | oh well |
| 17:31.20 | modernist | guess ill join a battleground and get reported afk a bunch |
| 17:31.24 | ls- | i mean, ofc you can frame.unit = "player"; frame:Show(); frame.Hide = frame.Show them :p |
| 17:32.41 | ls- | that's how I do it... |
| 17:33.21 | TheDanW | Seeker: we've talked about improving the search in some ways, but we're not ready to commit to anything yet |
| 17:35.14 | ls- | hm... for some reason felslate's price dropped to 26g/ea on my realm... |
| 17:37.33 | ls- | leystone ore is 6g/ea atm o_O |
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| 17:45.54 | karl_w_w | if only they'd let us use the large hadron collider, then we could compress 3 TB of data down to 36 bytes! |
| 17:47.26 | Simca | lol |
| 17:47.33 | Simca | good reference |
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| 17:50.53 | Shockah | nah you'd end up with jel-terabytes |
| 17:50.59 | Shockah | *gel |
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| 18:01.00 | Unkle | Station. |
| 18:02.02 | Simca | TheDanW: you should put %s on the quest mobs for progress bar in the UI. I ripped the data from the client (it has all of the necessary data already, just not exposed by API because unused) and did a quick tooltip addon and presto - https://wow.curseforge.com/addons/simpleobjectiveprogress/images/1-tooltip/ |
| 18:02.26 | Simca | just a suggestion for the distant future |
| 18:02.46 | Simca | dunno if %s are too 'mathy' for most |
| 18:02.55 | Simca | that would be the main objection i'd guess |
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| 18:04.04 | Simca | data exists for object weights too, but I can't write those because there is no event for setting objects on gametooltip :< |
| 18:05.28 | Fisker | Hey Unkle |
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| 18:13.58 | TheDanW | Simca: i think the point of the bar is to avoid specifying that you need 13.7 nagas to complete the quest, but just kill them as you're doing other objectives |
| 18:15.55 | Simca | yeah |
| 18:16.25 | Simca | it sucks in mythic+ mainly when you may have to improvise and don't know if the specific 2 mobs you're fighting are enough or if you should pull 2 more |
| 18:18.28 | nevcairiel | there is always addons if you want to optimize the last % :) |
| 18:25.32 | [TOM_RUS] | it should not be hard to expose those percentages through the API so ppl don't have to scrap db2 files |
| 18:25.49 | Ammako | i iwish transmog ui could take gold from guild bank |
| 18:26.53 | Unkle | Submit an RFE. |
| 18:28.11 | karl_w_w | I welcome our new tentacled overlords http://i.imgur.com/icRtNN4.gifv |
| 18:28.44 | Simca | had to scrape a db2 file, filter by type and flags&0x64, then had to grab a full creaturecache.wdb and get the proxy IDs from that |
| 18:28.47 | Simca | for the kill credits |
| 18:42.21 | karl_w_w | trump supporters are off the charts with self deception |
| 18:42.49 | karl_w_w | "Every poll saying Trump down like 9 points but he's getting so much focus and energy on Reddit" |
| 18:43.09 | kullervo | it's a circus |
| 18:43.53 | kullervo | <30% voter turnout would be the best outcome |
| 18:44.14 | kd3 | "Modern American Democracy: The Drinking Game" is an excellent way to spend a wednesday night |
| 18:44.37 | karl_w_w | it's going to be incredibly entertaining when all these morons who have never paid attention to politics before are hit with the reality that reddit doesnt mean shit |
| 19:13.33 | ls- | hm... is there a new felslate (or ore in general) exloit again? people are selling thousands of cheap felslate in /2 :p |
| 19:19.02 | Ammako | lol shadow nerfs in this newest ptr patch though |
| 19:23.06 | nevcairiel | juts to compensate for the earlier buffs |
| 19:23.12 | nevcairiel | also shadows in raids are plenty strong |
| 19:24.05 | Ammako | because of surrender to madness |
| 19:24.25 | Ressy | surrender should have been reworked. |
| 19:24.28 | Ammako | it just seems silly that they nerf the entire thing, further funneling people into picking surrender to madness to stay competitive |
| 19:24.35 | Ressy | its stupid. |
| 19:24.40 | Ammako | instead of nerfing the talent itself and/or bringing the other two up to par |
| 19:24.50 | nevcairiel | they do intend to modify that talent row, it just didnt make it for 7.1 since they dont want to rush some half-assed rework |
| 19:24.51 | Ressy | mmhmmm |
| 19:24.57 | Ammako | what if i dont like surrender to madness playstyle |
| 19:25.03 | Ammako | guess its good i dont play shadow |
| 19:25.05 | Ressy | Then like me, you're screwed. |
| 19:25.22 | Ammako | i just play holy and i guess iw ill have disc for world content |
| 19:25.33 | Ressy | I do shadow for world, holy for instance/raid. |
| 19:25.46 | Ammako | it wouldbe kinda fun to have a holy dps spec tbh :p |
| 19:26.08 | Ammako | not so far fetched since we know we can use that holy magic to damage |
| 19:26.33 | Ammako | kinda interesting though how disc mixes shadow and holy |
| 19:28.50 | nevcairiel | its not like they dont agree that S2M being the only viable choice is bad, but nerfing S2M would go from only that being viable to nothing being viable, so youll just have to wait for the rework |
| 19:36.23 | Ressy | They're doing a PTR... they should be reworking it then. |
| 19:36.36 | Ressy | instead of making all specs of shadow worse, even ones that don't use it |
| 19:36.43 | Ressy | Thats just lazy |
| 19:37.19 | TheDanW | is there a common dropdown library addons are using? |
| 19:37.57 | Ammako | or in general |
| 19:38.04 | Ammako | they had alpha/beta* |
| 19:41.21 | nevcairiel | Ressy: clearly you are not willing to see reason, but the Q&A even specifically went into why it will be done later, since they didnt want to rush it or have it holding up 7.1 for that matter |
| 19:42.11 | Ressy | I didn't have time to watch the Q&A. |
| 19:42.21 | Ressy | Unfortunately these days my life is insane |
| 19:42.37 | nevcairiel | sounds like S2M is for you, then! |
| 19:42.37 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:42.43 | Ressy | lol |
| 19:42.50 | Ressy | Not out in the world.. Not worth it one bit. |
| 19:43.08 | nevcairiel | out in the world the max dps is really rather irrelevant either way |
| 19:44.23 | Ammako | though it does get old not being able to kill stuff as quickly as you would on another class or spec |
| 19:44.33 | Ressy | nods |
| 19:44.44 | Ressy | Thats why I bring a rogue along to do all my WQs. |
| 19:44.46 | Ressy | >.< |
| 19:45.24 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: not really, no. we have https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/libdropdown-1-0 but almost noone uses it |
| 19:45.38 | Ammako | as prot i got really tired of rarely ever being able to break 80k |
| 19:45.46 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: libdropdown is kinda terrible |
| 19:45.48 | Ammako | so i went ahead and levelled my arms artifact |
| 19:45.52 | nevcairiel | its not a generic dropdown library |
| 19:45.58 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: probably the reason no one uses it then :D |
| 19:46.02 | Ammako | but not every class has that luxury :p |
| 19:46.36 | Ammako | hopefully disc can do well enough |
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| 19:48.32 | TheDanW | i see, thanks, do addons usually roll their own or use our framexml version then? i suppose i don't see as many dropdowns any more |
| 19:48.59 | nevcairiel | most probably use the default UI, even though it taints everything |
| 19:49.05 | nevcairiel | or for configs maybe the ace3 dropdown widget |
| 19:49.07 | Semlar | i use the default template |
| 19:49.45 | Thunder_Child | But then Semlar rather likes tainting things. |
| 19:50.06 | Semlar | i almost never use dropdown menus in anything |
| 19:50.33 | ls- | I use default template T_T |
| 19:50.46 | Semlar | they're too finicky |
| 19:51.43 | ls- | I have an addons w/ 4 dropdowns I think... |
| 19:51.48 | Semlar | even when they work it seems like they're always closing for no reason when you're trying to use them |
| 19:51.49 | ls- | not in cofnig ofc.. |
| 19:53.08 | Semlar | that reminds me, i was getting a bunch of errors from the ui when i had the class hall report window open while taking a flight path through zones |
| 19:54.02 | Semlar | http://hastebin.com/eburileqej.lua |
| 19:54.26 | ls- | I've seen that error too... |
| 19:54.57 | Semlar | it looked like it wasn't able to get information on any of my missions while i was crossing a zone boundary or something |
| 19:55.08 | nevcairiel | supposedly thats fixed in 7.1 |
| 19:56.15 | znf | Semlar, fixed in 7.1 |
| 19:56.19 | znf | ^ what he said |
| 19:56.43 | Semlar | i kind of wish this panda pvp food buff were just a passive we got in pvp areas, rather than requiring buying food from ashran and eating it for 10 seconds in a pvp area |
| 19:56.47 | Thunder_Child | I get that all the time as well. |
| 19:57.05 | Semlar | it's pretty unreasonable to try and get this buff after you die the first time in a battleground |
| 19:57.13 | znf | food buffs in BGs, lol |
| 19:57.22 | Semlar | unless you want to eat for 10 seconds every time you rez |
| 19:57.41 | VIad | warcraftlogs always ranks me lower on spider/cenarius because I only do adds :p |
| 19:57.45 | VIad | as tank that is |
| 20:04.26 | Ammako | im still not sure why my action bar tooltips are acting the way they are |
| 20:09.46 | relaxok | man healing is kinda hard |
| 20:10.04 | znf | you queue for dungeon, you get ported in Nelth |
| 20:10.33 | relaxok | i switched my lvl 80 shadow priest to disc and tried to queue a cata dungeon as a healer.. tanks were getting killed in like 2-3 seconds.. |
| 20:10.56 | relaxok | seemingly to boss abilities they should avoid, but still i didnt expect it to be so unforgiving |
| 20:11.30 | Semlar | why does the bonus honor from doing a random battleground go down from 300 to 150 after you do a couple |
| 20:11.46 | relaxok | similar idea to AP going down? |
| 20:11.54 | relaxok | +AP rewards |
| 20:12.13 | Semlar | the arena skirmishes give a bonus of 100 honor |
| 20:12.44 | Semlar | 150 is a horrible bonus for doing a battleground |
| 20:13.32 | Semlar | but mostly i'm confused because it doesn't give any indication that the first couple wins of the day are supposed to grant bonus bonus honor |
| 20:13.38 | relaxok | i've never queued an arena skirmish, is that terrible or fun |
| 20:14.23 | Semlar | aside from occasionally having other people not show up, it's like any other arena match |
| 20:15.36 | znf | terrible and fun at the same time |
| 20:15.37 | Semlar | i went back to doing random battlegrounds for honor |
| 20:15.38 | znf | obviously terrible |
| 20:15.48 | znf | I'm prestige 1, level 50 |
| 20:15.51 | Semlar | mostly because i can do stuff in the downtime |
| 20:15.52 | znf | not prestiging again |
| 20:15.53 | znf | fuck that |
| 20:16.32 | Semlar | arenas may be faster honor but you have to constantly be queueing |
| 20:16.58 | Semlar | do you get more honor from doing higher ranked stuff |
| 20:17.27 | Semlar | i mean i know ranked stuff is worth a little more honor than the casual things, but i don't know if it grants more as your rank goes up |
| 20:18.16 | Stanzilla | znf: wait for 7.1 |
| 20:18.20 | znf | I will |
| 20:18.52 | znf | but the honor event is nwo :D |
| 20:19.01 | znf | worst rotation ever |
| 20:21.49 | pompy | wtb rep boost event again |
| 20:25.54 | Semlar | you can get bonus rep from the halloween thing |
| 20:31.11 | VIad | - emerald nightmare on farm - senegos gave me quest to absorb boss essences - finally gathered all 30 - absorbed immense power - 3750 AP reward >_> |
| 20:31.14 | VIad | (â¯Â°â¡Â°ï¼â¯ï¸µ â»ââ» |
| 20:31.50 | VIad | MFW world boss gives >6k AP and raid farms gave me 3.7k |
| 20:32.07 | znf | Kill all humans which drop LFR after 1/2 bosses |
| 20:32.36 | nevcairiel | i drop after the first boss because lfr is terrible and i only need that one |
| 20:32.38 | nevcairiel | sue me |
| 20:32.39 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 20:33.09 | VIad | "Be wary, friend. It may take some time to earn the Nightfallen's trust." |
| 20:33.15 | VIad | bitch I'm exalted for weeks now! |
| 20:33.29 | znf | nevcairiel, you're a tank, I don't care about you |
| 20:33.36 | znf | I keep getting put into in-progress instances |
| 20:33.41 | znf | and now I have to re-queue both wings, again |
| 20:33.41 | nevcairiel | actually i usually get in as a healer |
| 20:34.36 | znf | may you always get instances from 2nd+ on bosses |
| 20:36.10 | nevcairiel | i would just drop adn try again later |
| 20:36.13 | nevcairiel | its not like i wait long |
| 20:38.04 | VIad | nevcairiel: can you link me your warcraftlogs? |
| 20:38.05 | Semlar | did they fix AV constantly getting unchecked in the "blacklist this battleground" option |
| 20:38.12 | VIad | mine is https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/15588070/latest#metric=ehrps |
| 20:38.38 | Semlar | if i could blacklist every battleground above 20 players i would |
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| 20:41.58 | Semlar | for now i have to settle for AV and isle of conquest |
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| 20:44.17 | nevcairiel | thats what i usually do Semlar, strand and eots are out |
| 20:44.32 | nevcairiel | isle is always just so laggy |
| 20:44.45 | VIad | whats your char name, nevcairiel? I can look you up |
| 20:44.59 | nevcairiel | its wednesday night, wcl is unusable =p |
| 20:45.16 | VIad | :p tell me your char name and realm its ok ;d |
| 20:45.39 | Semlar | don't do it, he wants to cyberstalk you |
| 20:45.49 | Thunder_Child | Oh baby. |
| 20:46.47 | nevcairiel | https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/1076909/latest |
| 20:47.05 | VIad | xd |
| 20:47.12 | Gnarfoz | wcl works fine for me :P |
| 20:47.17 | Gnarfoz | most of the time! |
| 20:47.26 | nevcairiel | opening tonights raid log is super slow, if it ever finishes |
| 20:47.35 | VIad | very nice nevcairiel. you need a little bit of work on normal ursoc though. :d |
| 20:47.36 | nevcairiel | and i'm already premium! |
| 20:47.38 | Gnarfoz | even on "premium" servers, apparently |
| 20:47.39 | Ammako | i block strand and mine |
| 20:47.50 | Ammako | i cant strand those two, i dont mine av and ioq |
| 20:48.04 | Semlar | are you alliance |
| 20:48.26 | Ammako | *waves alliance flag* |
| 20:48.32 | Semlar | i don't know any horde that doesn't blacklist AV |
| 20:48.37 | Ammako | for the appliance! |
| 20:48.41 | Semlar | so the only people you're fighting in there have no idea what they're doing |
| 20:48.52 | nevcairiel | VIad: krsi is a kinda bad metric, tbh |
| 20:49.19 | nevcairiel | its so easily influenced by boss strategy |
| 20:49.19 | VIad | it's not THAT bad |
| 20:49.21 | VIad | yeah it is |
| 20:49.25 | Ammako | yeah but a lot of alliance have no idea what theyre doing either |
| 20:49.37 | VIad | thats why I score low on spider and cenarius, I tank adds :p |
| 20:49.41 | VIad | less tanking time, worse score |
| 20:51.05 | Semlar | be honest, do you ever lose AV as alliance |
| 20:51.13 | Semlar | because it should be horribly imbalanced right now |
| 20:51.28 | modernist | depends if someone caps snowfall or not |
| 20:51.35 | modernist | or SH or whichever it is |
| 20:51.39 | modernist | that fucks shit up |
| 20:51.54 | modernist | but not really no |
| 20:52.53 | nevcairiel | apparently todays kill isnt even in the rankings yet |
| 20:53.00 | nevcairiel | because i uploaded it only an hour ago |
| 20:53.19 | VIad | nevcairiel: if it bugs you need to "export" on ranking page on the log itself |
| 20:53.20 | VIad | :/ |
| 20:56.10 | Semlar | the only people who cap snowfall are just trolling the horde out of a quick loss |
| 20:59.52 | Semlar | it turns a 6 minute loss into a 20 minute loss |
| 21:01.14 | Ssateneth | i just logged in and wanted to queue for random heroic but it says im queued for too manu instances. wtf? |
| 21:02.01 | Ssateneth | i cant queue for anything????????? |
| 21:02.23 | Ssateneth | im not in queue with anything |
| 21:03.00 | VIad | you are, Ssateneth ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 21:03.08 | Ssateneth | but im not queued for anything |
| 21:03.11 | Ssateneth | relog didnt fix |
| 21:04.38 | Ssateneth | weird, had to alt f4 and reload game... |
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| 21:08.16 | Ammako | 0 is too many |
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| 21:17.08 | ls- | dunno why, but this comment made me chuckle... http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1975197?p=42879982#post42879982 |
| 21:18.14 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.28 | Semlar | finally, somewhere having a 50 yard cleave is nice |
| 21:25.37 | Semlar | just so long as they don't add seagulls to battlegrounds |
| 21:26.24 | Semlar | i saw someone use a glider in here, but i can't use my engineering glider |
| 21:26.34 | Semlar | can you use the disposable ones for some reason? |
| 21:26.45 | nevcairiel | yes those work |
| 21:26.48 | Semlar | wtf |
| 21:26.53 | Semlar | why can't you use the engineering one |
| 21:26.58 | nevcairiel | no advantage for you! |
| 21:27.14 | Semlar | but it does the same thing! |
| 21:27.49 | Semlar | it just doesn't cost me anything |
| 21:28.12 | nevcairiel | probably because its a gear on-use, those are all categorically disabled |
| 21:29.08 | znf | Fuck. You. For. Nerfing. My. Engineering. In. Battlegrounds. |
| 21:29.33 | znf | Semlar, I bitched about that a month ago |
| 21:29.47 | znf | also I just lost a BG because I can't use my boosts |
| 21:49.09 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/4Dl6tST.png |
| 21:49.11 | znf | the fuck? |
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| 21:54.19 | nevcairiel | what about it? |
| 21:54.27 | nevcairiel | its kinda silly, but not wtf worthy really |
| 21:54.42 | nevcairiel | note that its unmounted speed only, and uses up a trinket slot, so really meh :p |
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| 21:56.39 | znf | oh, unmounted |
| 21:56.40 | znf | ok, fuck that |
| 21:57.12 | nevcairiel | maybe its mounted as well, but if it is then it doesnt stack with the pathfinder perk |
| 21:57.20 | nevcairiel | cant exactly have a char without it anymore |
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| 21:58.35 | znf | need 5 more ilvls on my druid for LFR :( |
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| 22:28.38 | znf | Ok, who's the smart-ass who fixed the jump in VoW? |
| 22:31.12 | Constie | Me, it was me. I fixed it. |
| 22:32.56 | foxlit | which jump? |
| 22:33.07 | kullervo | at the end, to reset the trash |
| 22:34.09 | znf | now it kills you |
| 22:34.16 | foxlit | good times! |
| 22:35.32 | Ammako | that sounds really killer |
| 22:35.58 | xyphoid | some things never change |
| 22:36.05 | xyphoid | remember jumping on the deadmines wheel |
| 22:36.12 | kullervo | yes |
| 22:36.16 | kullervo | that was the common strategy |
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| 22:40.45 | znf | my new DPS trinket http://i.imgur.com/3bT1aPO.png |
| 22:41.12 | kullervo | dps huh. |
| 22:41.23 | znf | some guy traded it for me |
| 22:41.25 | znf | ilvl stick |
| 22:41.28 | znf | but it procs! |
| 22:41.44 | znf | I use HT in my rotation :D |
| 22:41.52 | kullervo | ... why |
| 22:42.34 | znf | because I'm feral? |
| 22:43.03 | kullervo | they use HT in rotation? |
| 22:43.10 | kullervo | and how was I supposed to know you're feral |
| 22:43.40 | znf | Bloodtalons |
| 22:43.52 | znf | wtf is this wizardry |
| 22:43.55 | znf | corruption decreases in LFR |
| 22:43.59 | znf | @ Xavius |
| 22:44.06 | kullervo | lol |
| 22:44.11 | kullervo | would be too easy to wipe otherwise |
| 22:44.25 | znf | I was trying to get 100 for DPS boost while in dream.. |
| 22:44.42 | Constie | I think it goes down slowly on normal, too. |
| 22:45.07 | znf | ...wait |
| 22:45.10 | znf | and everyone is in the dream |
| 22:45.10 | znf | wtf |
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| 22:45.18 | foxlit | znf: corruption decreases on normal too |
| 22:45.22 | znf | it does? :-| |
| 22:45.28 | znf | gay |
| 22:45.28 | foxlit | it's a mystery to everyone. |
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| 22:54.21 | Gnarfoz | I had wondered why it seemed almost impossible to reach 100 on normal |
| 22:55.17 | Gnarfoz | znf: we did the jump to reset thing on +6 earlier, we were less than amused :D cost us +2 :( |
| 22:56.32 | Gnarfoz | does dropping the light preemptively still work? |
| 22:56.41 | Gnarfoz | kind of didn't get to try that because we were all dead. |
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| 23:00.31 | znf | that works, yes |
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| 23:55.11 | Kinesia1 | Hi Semlar, is there a way for nomicakes to tell me what food I could use that I don't have on me or in the bank? (And would therefore want to either farm or buy in the AH) |
| 23:56.15 | znf | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/19/texan-vet-who-shot-cat-in-head-with-bow-and-arrow-suspended/ |
| 23:56.16 | znf | jesus |
| 23:56.18 | znf | some fucking people |
