| 00:00.05 | Thunder_Child | Yes, with a gun... |
| 00:00.19 | Torhal | A gun that shoots swords. |
| 00:00.35 | Semlar | a sword that shoots guns |
| 00:00.44 | Torhal | You're overthinking this, Semlar. |
| 00:00.56 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/ywekrjd.png |
| 00:00.59 | znf | this trinket makes no sense |
| 00:01.08 | Thunder_Child | Besides, a sword that shoots guns is a sword shaped gun. |
| 00:01.09 | Semlar | nice 0 haste |
| 00:01.21 | znf | and lasts until cancelled |
| 00:01.28 | Semlar | "for until cancelled" |
| 00:01.32 | Torhal | Stacking up to five times. |
| 00:01.32 | znf | but stacking doesn't refresh the duration |
| 00:01.33 | znf | ok? :D |
| 00:01.49 | Semlar | well it does say it's erratic |
| 00:01.59 | Arrowmaster | until cancelled, stacking does not refresh |
| 00:02.02 | znf | I guess. |
| 00:02.26 | Arrowmaster | are you sure your cache isnt fucked up |
| 00:02.35 | znf | http://www.wowhead.com/item=140792/erratic-metronome&bonus=3443#comments |
| 00:02.47 | Torhal | Something tells me that Semlar will now create a guild named For Until Cancelled. |
| 00:03.05 | foxlit | <Until Cancelled> does sound like a good name. |
| 00:03.06 | Ammako | has a nice ring to it... sorry, nice trinket |
| 00:03.20 | Semlar | shut it down guys |
| 00:03.26 | Semlar | shut it down |
| 00:03.26 | Arrowmaster | chance to win when selecting specializations? wtf? |
| 00:04.04 | foxlit | personal loot, Arrowmaster. |
| 00:04.26 | Arrowmaster | i have no idea what you are talking about |
| 00:04.33 | foxlit | Evidently. |
| 00:04.42 | Torhal | He hasn't played since WotLK. |
| 00:04.45 | Torhal | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 00:04.57 | Arrowmaster | cata |
| 00:05.01 | Torhal | :O |
| 00:05.05 | Arrowmaster | ackis wanted a sparkle pony |
| 00:05.09 | Torhal | Hah |
| 00:05.32 | Semlar | i've never seen a trinket buff last until cancelled, so i suspect the duration is the error |
| 00:05.59 | znf | 5 stacks of 0 haste! |
| 00:07.13 | Ammako | very erratic tooltip |
| 00:07.19 | foxlit | 1359 haste/stack, 12 seconds. |
| 00:07.23 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/GRBmKxU.png |
| 00:07.31 | znf | foxlit, how do you know? :o |
| 00:07.43 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=225719 presumably |
| 00:07.58 | Semlar | accelerando |
| 00:08.32 | znf | ig, |
| 00:08.33 | znf | Oh. |
| 00:08.52 | Sharparam | znf: maybe that was the tank you were in that dungeon with |
| 00:09.04 | znf | tanks suck! |
| 00:09.05 | Semlar | probably just invited you on accident |
| 00:09.41 | Ammako | *makes vacuum sound* |
| 00:10.50 | znf | :-( |
| 00:11.16 | Sharparam | picks up Ammako and drags them across the apartment. |
| 00:11.20 | Sharparam | There, nice and clean |
| 00:12.20 | Torhal | I'll stick to my Roomba, thanks. |
| 00:12.52 | Ammako | but can your roomba tank instances |
| 00:13.09 | Torhal | It can handle a house with 18 cats. |
| 00:13.18 | Ammako | ah, great aoe damage mitigation |
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| 00:14.18 | znf | how many roombas? |
| 00:14.23 | nebula | Torhal: i doubt a roomba's ability to handle that much pet hair |
| 00:14.27 | Semlar | one roomba per cat |
| 00:14.46 | mckenziemc | what's the roomba's uptime |
| 00:14.46 | kd3 | and here my roomba feels overwhelmed cleaning at ~600sqft apartment in oakland |
| 00:14.53 | Torhal | nebula: It works just fine, so long as I empty it once per day. |
| 00:15.03 | Torhal | kd3: I have the 980. |
| 00:15.21 | Sharparam | look at kd3 and his huge apartment |
| 00:15.23 | Semlar | 980 roombas? |
| 00:15.47 | kd3 | eh. I bought a used 880. it works well enough, considering I have yet to personally vacuum in ~18 months |
| 00:16.13 | Ammako | 2 more and you have the irl Crazy For Cats achievement |
| 00:16.23 | znf | So... addon that saves window positions? :P |
| 00:16.27 | Torhal | mckenziemc: About an hour, then has to charge for 90 minutes before going again. The problem is, it charges to the halfway point before resuming, so it goes for 30 minutes, then 90 more charging... |
| 00:16.28 | mckenziemc | has it uploaded a full 3D rendering of your apartment to the internet yet? |
| 00:16.52 | Torhal | mckenziemc: People know where my shoes are kept, I assume. |
| 00:17.02 | Thunder_Child | A 3D rendering that's 4in. tall? |
| 00:17.19 | Torhal | The 980 has a camera. |
| 00:17.29 | Semlar | and a microphone |
| 00:17.40 | znf | Torhal, do they take turns riding it? |
| 00:17.40 | mckenziemc | that was directed more toward kd3 |
| 00:17.43 | Torhal | It can also effectively herd a cat. |
| 00:17.49 | Thunder_Child | But it is a vacuum, I assume it is not looking up. |
| 00:18.07 | Torhal | znf: Nah, they occasionally chase it around and slap at the whirly thing on the side though. |
| 00:18.26 | Ammako | cats are cute |
| 00:18.44 | Torhal | I'm actually happy they don't ride around on it, since the camera is on top. |
| 00:19.00 | Ammako | that would be cat-ass-trophic |
| 00:19.17 | kd3 | groan |
| 00:19.28 | Torhal | accuses Ammako of reading Xanth. |
| 00:19.36 | mckenziemc | is that what you meant by cute, Ammako |
| 00:20.07 | kd3 | is anthony keeping up with that? I haven't read any in years |
| 00:20.11 | Torhal | They've actually gotten so used to it that sometimes they forget to get out of its way. |
| 00:20.29 | Torhal | No idea, kd3 - probably been 25 years since I looked, to be honest. |
| 00:20.50 | Torhal | I thought they were silly as a teenager, so I wonder how they'd hold up now. |
| 00:21.25 | Semlar | at a certain point it just became stringing a bunch of puns together from reader submissions |
| 00:21.27 | kd3 | that's the point - they're not supposed to be serious. especially considering he based the world on florida |
| 00:21.56 | Torhal | Or Italy, IIRC. Map changed I seem to remember. |
| 00:22.15 | Semlar | xanth was florida |
| 00:23.11 | Semlar | but you could end up anywhere with a peninsula if you left it |
| 00:23.26 | Torhal | Ok, so I was slightly misremembering. |
| 00:25.46 | znf | the fuck is xanth |
| 00:26.08 | Torhal | Use The Google, Luke! |
| 00:26.09 | Semlar | florida, we've been over this! |
| 00:26.41 | Semlar | it's a book series by piers xanthony |
| 00:26.57 | Torhal | ... |
| 00:26.59 | Torhal | -x |
| 00:27.10 | Ammako | accidental pun! |
| 00:27.25 | Semlar | i don't believe in accidental puns |
| 00:27.34 | mckenziemc | punts Ammako over Torhal's Roomba. |
| 00:27.43 | Ammako | *gets 100 points* |
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| 00:28.35 | znf | When's the movie? |
| 00:28.43 | xyphoid | if you remember xanth fondly don't look into it now |
| 00:34.47 | _Kee | I found a flying chest in Suramar city: http://benio.me/pub/res/img/wow/flyingchest.png |
| 00:35.17 | Sharparam | "My people need me." |
| 00:36.09 | Trela | I am just waiting for Rita Repulsa to come out of it. |
| 00:52.09 | znf | Where the hell does it say that corruption increases damage done @ xavius? |
| 00:54.24 | nebula | weh? it's when you go insane i thought |
| 00:55.01 | znf | I was reading H2P a few days ago, and someone mentioned that at 60% you get some increased damage |
| 00:55.04 | znf | but I can't anything about it |
| 00:55.22 | znf | I can't even |
| 00:57.48 | ccox | sigh. Some idiots out there still think they can moonkin tank. The only thing they do is annoy the blazes out of the healer⦠|
| 01:00.11 | fewyn | time to get sad with america again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcNyCmBTJCY |
| 01:03.58 | nebula | i may have walked around grabbing pussy, but bill clinton was just as bad! |
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| 01:22.22 | Stanzilla | grabs nebula by the pussy |
| 01:22.44 | nebula | ohi ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
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| 02:18.04 | Stanzilla | the debate is so much fun to watch |
| 02:23.31 | kd3 | I'm drunk already |
| 02:23.35 | kd3 | that helps, a bit |
| 02:23.45 | Stanzilla | I really think it's entertaining |
| 02:25.16 | Cairenn | It's a f'ing train wreck |
| 02:28.10 | Cairenn | I'm glad I'm not an American, but god it's scary being their next door neighbour |
| 02:28.39 | kd3 | what's interesting is that pence has apparently asked the gop to get off the presidential ticket |
| 02:28.49 | Cairenn | Yeah, hearing that |
| 02:31.13 | ls- | debate is sorta popular in local (Thai) pubs :p |
| 02:32.38 | ls- | ofc locals don't care.. |
| 02:32.46 | ls- | but quite many Americans live here, they even fight each other from time to time, like literally... |
| 02:35.32 | Semlar | is there a hotkey to actually mute the game instead of just "sound effects" |
| 02:37.08 | foxlit | no, but killing sfx+music mutes everything except silly addons. |
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| 02:40.55 | kullervo | most addons can be set to use the sound effects channel |
| 02:45.00 | kd3 | holy cow. colbert used a bebop gif: https://twitter.com/StephenAtHome/status/785307788649959428 |
| 03:13.23 | Mr_Rabies | keep trying to zoom in on the kalimdor map |
| 03:13.26 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 03:13.26 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 03:13.36 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 03:13.46 | Mr_Rabies | er flight map |
| 03:14.04 | Mr_Rabies | i really want the broken isles flight map for all the rest |
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| 03:38.18 | Semlar | well there's world flight map |
| 03:40.34 | Thunder_Child | I like that Semlar, but I do wish it wasn't so easy to click a flight path while trying to drill down into a zone. |
| 03:42.02 | Semlar | it's harder to misclick if you zoom in the map |
| 03:46.46 | mckenziemc1 | zooms in on Semlar's private life. |
| 03:46.59 | mckenziemc | wasn't me |
| 03:47.34 | Semlar | imposter |
| 03:47.49 | ls- | AN ILLUSION!? |
| 03:48.05 | Semlar | what are you hiding |
| 03:48.09 | mckenziemc | a delusion |
| 03:48.29 | ls- | hides mckenziemc |
| 03:48.57 | mckenziemc | steals and wears ls-'s skin instead. |
| 03:50.07 | pompy1 | who goes there |
| 03:50.50 | kullervo | an illusion! What are you hiding? |
| 03:54.13 | mckenziemc | a clandestine intrusion |
| 03:54.40 | mckenziemc | don't turn off your computer or your files will be deleted |
| 03:59.46 | jaxdahl | andalusian? what are you riding? |
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| 05:38.02 | karl_w_w | is it true, is this a photo that conveys every possible emotion? https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/495308388553596928/QU46khbG_400x400.jpeg |
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| 05:57.43 | mckenziemc | only if your emotions are very limited |
| 05:57.56 | karl_w_w | I knew it |
| 05:58.23 | mckenziemc | renders karl_w_w's world in 4-bit monochrome. |
| 05:58.38 | karl_w_w | doesn't notice a difference |
| 06:01.20 | mckenziemc | grabs a https://www.amazon.com/ANDVS%C2%AE-Tri-wing-Screwdriver-Nintendo-Gameboy-Pc/dp/B01E5XIAWW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1476079206&sr=8-6&keywords=gameboy+color+screwdriver and opens karl_w_w up. |
| 06:03.42 | karl_w_w | you think this is a gameboy? |
| 06:05.16 | mckenziemc | you think this is a game? |
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| 06:06.11 | Torhal | You think this is a thing you can type about? |
| 06:07.12 | mckenziemc | i don't type, i just spit out bits :( |
| 06:07.32 | Torhal | That bytes, man. |
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| 07:11.43 | karl_w_w | theres a coffee machine here with a max water line on it |
| 07:11.54 | karl_w_w | but on the line it says XAM not MAX |
| 07:12.20 | karl_w_w | but there's no way you'd ever be able to read it from the other side |
| 07:13.57 | Torhal | Stop trying to XAM/NIM things, karl_w_w. |
| 07:14.56 | jaxdahl | don't you mean NIM\XAM things |
| 07:15.19 | Trela | WTF |
| 07:15.21 | VIad | what is a max water line? |
| 07:15.31 | VIad | ah right |
| 07:15.35 | VIad | lol :p |
| 07:15.40 | Torhal | jaxdahl: I do. |
| 07:15.41 | Trela | Do do a Google search for "XAM NIM" wondering what the fuck that is. |
| 07:15.48 | Torhal | jaxdahl: Actually, no |
| 07:15.55 | karl_w_w | no he means XAM\ÐIM |
| 07:16.05 | Torhal | I had it right the first time. Just wrong slash. |
| 07:16.15 | jaxdahl | i was looking for the backwards N damn you |
| 07:16.28 | VIad | :p |
| 07:16.46 | karl_w_w | oh maybe I worked it out |
| 07:17.07 | karl_w_w | cos the water is on the back maybe the idea is that you see it in a mirror behind the machine |
| 07:17.53 | VIad | can't you just turn the thingy so you can read the text from the other side? |
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| 07:18.39 | karl_w_w | there's no thingy to turn |
| 07:18.49 | VIad | it's not like this? http://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/i/spin/image/spin_prod_180933901??hei=64&wid=64&qlt=50 |
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| 07:19.16 | karl_w_w | the water compartment is on the machine |
| 07:19.27 | VIad | hmm |
| 07:19.30 | karl_w_w | on the back of it |
| 07:20.15 | VIad | yeah, game over |
| 07:21.54 | VIad | ugh my stitches are annoying me. the swelling is over, so there is a lot of loose thread in my mouth now :/ |
| 07:22.16 | VIad | and it triggers me to try swallow and to try remove it with my tongue |
| 07:22.35 | VIad | I'm glad I'll be going to the dentist to get it removed in under 6 hours |
| 07:23.21 | karl_w_w | only time I had stitches for my teeth it was so nice after they were taken out |
| 07:24.06 | karl_w_w | even though they werent bothering me at all before, the moment they were gone I realized they were causing like a constant dull pain |
| 07:26.13 | VIad | I don't feel any pain, but I also avoid going up there with my tongue, or I start to try lick it away like it is stuck food :< |
| 07:26.58 | VIad | 10 days since the wisdom tooth was removed, it was only bad the first like, 3 days maybe. after that it was pretty manageable, no pain at all. |
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| 07:28.10 | ls- | damn... |
| 07:28.29 | karl_w_w | you'll see when it's gone VIad |
| 07:28.37 | VIad | I look forward to it |
| 07:29.14 | ls- | I have 34 (yeah, 2 extra) teeth in my mouth, but I've never had any issues w/ them T_T |
| 07:29.25 | ls- | and hopefully never will... |
| 07:29.33 | karl_w_w | my mouth is all sorts of fucked |
| 07:29.42 | VIad | I know someone that has 28 teeth, missing 4 wisdom teeth from birth |
| 07:29.58 | karl_w_w | there's like not enough room in there, when I was younger they had to take 4 teeth out to make space |
| 07:30.06 | ls- | VIad: new gen hooman, literally... |
| 07:30.18 | VIad | dna mutations :p |
| 07:30.18 | karl_w_w | and the 4 they took out had 3 roots instead of the 2 those teeth are meant to have |
| 07:30.20 | VIad | mutants! |
| 07:30.25 | karl_w_w | they kept them for study |
| 07:30.36 | VIad | nice karl_w_w |
| 07:30.41 | VIad | what is your secret? |
| 07:30.56 | karl_w_w | I take 10% of my team's winnings |
| 07:31.15 | karl_w_w | that was super dank but none of you will ever know :P |
| 07:32.40 | karl_w_w | I ordered a light bulb from dx.com, and for no reason I can think of they included a free single disposable razor |
| 07:32.49 | karl_w_w | they don't even know my gender |
| 07:32.54 | ls- | :D |
| 07:33.10 | nevcairiel | both genders shave |
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| 07:33.15 | nevcairiel | just .. different things |
| 07:33.30 | karl_w_w | but one of them rarely uses the cheapest of cheap disposables for the job |
| 07:33.46 | nevcairiel | yeah i would never do that |
| 07:33.50 | ls- | BOTH!? *triggered* |
| 07:34.12 | karl_w_w | hugh mungus what? |
| 07:35.05 | ls- | ?o_O |
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| 07:37.19 | VIad | both genders commit suicide |
| 07:39.05 | ls- | damn, wish one of my ex-colleagues was here... |
| 07:39.41 | karl_w_w | ls-, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I |
| 07:39.57 | ls- | hehe... |
| 07:42.20 | VIad | lol. hugh mungus. poor name choice by parents maybe, but that lady :p |
| 07:42.49 | ls- | damn... that crazy bitch sounds like one of my ex-colleagues... |
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| 07:43.25 | VIad | that woman is crazy |
| 07:43.41 | VIad | emotional overdrive |
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| 07:46.10 | ls- | now I'm reading this... https://archive.is/PM4do |
| 07:46.23 | ls- | that's that woman's post... |
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| 07:46.46 | ls- | comments are hilarious, so many supporters, lol :D |
| 07:46.55 | ls- | You are a warrior showing us that we can and must all stand up together at last to turn the oppressive system around. So thankful for your clarity and bravery in exposing all of it. |
| 07:46.57 | ls- | ahahaha |
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| 07:47.41 | VIad | but I dont quite understand why he asked if she wants to know his name, like, context? did he just exit some standup comedy thing where hugh mongus was part of his routine or? :p |
| 07:48.57 | VIad | or is it like he knows she was some crazy feminist lady and did it on purpose to troll her? |
| 07:49.21 | VIad | whatever the case he triggered her and my poor ears (headset) |
| 07:52.34 | ls- | I wonder how often something like this happens in the West... |
| 07:52.52 | VIad | I mean even if she didn't find it funny she definetly didn't handle it well, at all. |
| 07:53.30 | VIad | chuckled at the austin powers comment in the video: dixie normus |
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| 07:55.31 | ls- | man... |
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| 07:57.09 | VIad | wish the wow app had a notify feature on my phone |
| 07:57.36 | ls- | fuck, now I have "SJW/Feminist fail compilation #*" videos in my YT recommendations... I hate you karl_w_w T_T |
| 07:57.41 | VIad | all it had to do is sync the missions when I launch the app (if I did stuff on the PC) and let me like "notify me" on some missions, and it just starts a local timer to tell me when its done :p |
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| 08:00.59 | VIad | april fools in 5 months. wow should have some API return funny values at april fools :3 |
| 08:01.31 | ls- | https://www.instagram.com/p/BLXmDyyDB9c/ so pretteh *_* |
| 08:02.07 | ls- | I had Siberian cat many many moons ago :(( |
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| 08:04.21 | VIad | ballpark estimate, 50 moons? |
| 08:05.35 | VIad | I hope not 50 moons, that's 123 years :p |
| 08:06.03 | VIad | wait thats odd |
| 08:06.10 | VIad | nvm :p |
| 08:06.50 | Trela | MEW. |
| 08:07.06 | ls- | more like nyaa~ |
| 08:07.31 | ls- | https://www.instagram.com/p/BLTtkjzj66E awww~ |
| 08:07.36 | ls- | purr purr... |
| 08:08.02 | Shockah|Work | ls-, i'm still hoping you'll do fake legendary toasts for April Fools |
| 08:08.14 | ls- | :D |
| 08:08.28 | VIad | yeah |
| 08:08.30 | karl_w_w | if u didn't see it VIad https://saylith.github.io/monogatari/himitsumonogatari.html |
| 08:09.00 | VIad | oh |
| 08:10.25 | karl_w_w | the memes are spicy right now |
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| 08:16.51 | VIad | one would think managing the payments shouldn't be a problem. money comes in from X, funneled into roster pockets, done. :p |
| 08:17.00 | VIad | lazy management if you ask me, handled poorly |
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| 08:21.00 | ls- | I need new cute avatar T_T |
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| 08:21.20 | VIad | make it misleading |
| 08:23.15 | ls- | nah, I need cute waifu T_T |
| 08:23.21 | VIad | lol |
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| 12:23.34 | Simca__ | uhhhhhh |
| 12:23.50 | Simca__ | i just tried to complete a quest when my inventory was full and failed the completion but still got XP |
| 12:23.50 | znf | I wanted to provide feedback for the b.net app yesterday |
| 12:23.59 | Simca__ | and could turn it in over and over |
| 12:24.10 | znf | by the time I reached the feedback page, I forgot what I wanted |
| 12:24.12 | Simca | this seems bad. |
| 12:24.20 | znf | clearly an exploit! |
| 12:24.26 | znf | where is that quest so I can avoid it? |
| 12:24.37 | Simca | interesting, the quest doesn't even reward items |
| 12:24.52 | Simca | also my inventory isn't full. |
| 12:25.21 | Simca | https://db.tt/6W7eDtq3 |
| 12:26.15 | znf | cool |
| 12:26.19 | znf | see if you can hit lvl100 that way |
| 12:27.46 | Simca | it completed on attempt 2 apparently |
| 12:28.10 | Simca | but i obviously got XP both times, as i leveled up even though it didn't tell me i got XP |
| 12:29.38 | Industrial | So I dinged 110. What's the best way to start grinding for gear? I have bought the head item from my class hall (hunter) and I've seen the requirements for the other pieces. |
| 12:30.05 | Industrial | I'm waiting for my first Unseen Path mission to complete (of 5) before I can get more followers to unlock another piece |
| 12:30.20 | foxlit | nightfallen honored is rather easy |
| 12:30.28 | Industrial | And by default if I have nothing better to do, quest all of suramar? |
| 12:30.30 | Industrial | right |
| 12:31.10 | foxlit | dungeons, instanced pvp, world quests with gear rewards, crafting, emissary caches |
| 12:31.59 | Industrial | ok |
| 12:32.40 | foxlit | class hall gear is nice for alts you aren't actively playing; in most other cases, you'll have better things to put in those slots by the time you unlock the ch set pieces. |
| 12:36.03 | VIad | foxlit: the class hall gear requires exalted with nightfallen and many weeks of grind, by the time you can equip said gear you can just do hc/mythics and get better gear ,_, |
| 12:36.14 | Constie | I'm finally on the second half of revered with the Nightfallen, so my shoulders aren't far away. Which I'm not going to wear, but I want to have the transmog option. |
| 12:36.25 | VIad | I got my last piece, by then I kind of got rid of all the other gear pieces :p |
| 12:37.11 | Simca | VIad: that is one single piece of it |
| 12:37.11 | Constie | I think if I upgraded all the pieces the set bonuses would make them just slightly better than what I currently have, if I remember right. I'm not going to grind resources to do that, though. |
| 12:37.12 | VIad | I just felt the pacing was kind of bad, even for alts, you'd have to grind the rep right? |
| 12:37.20 | Simca | 4 pieces of the class hall gear you get by sneezing |
| 12:37.45 | Simca | and the 840 upgrade tokens are only nightfallen honored, which you may have before you have full 840s |
| 12:37.47 | VIad | if you dont wanna grind reps, you can grind dungeons and get better gear, faster than the rep :p |
| 12:38.09 | Simca | if you don't want to grind reps you're going to feel dumb when you can't do 2 dungeons |
| 12:38.12 | VIad | I felt I didnt get the rep recuirements, and by then I was outgeared |
| 12:38.54 | VIad | by the time you have the full set, you probably are only wearing the shoulders 850 :p |
| 12:39.07 | Simca | by the time you have the full set, it's all trash |
| 12:39.15 | VIad | exactly |
| 12:39.26 | Simca | but that's not the point, the point is the time when you have 3-4 pieces unlocked and are in shit gear |
| 12:39.28 | VIad | and alts still have to grind individually, the rep and OR |
| 12:39.34 | VIad | sure |
| 12:39.41 | nevcairiel | its a shame there is no 850 upgrae |
| 12:39.49 | nevcairiel | would make a few pieces maybe useful again |
| 12:39.58 | nevcairiel | instead they only give you like one item in 850 |
| 12:39.58 | VIad | 10k OR for the 850 upgrade? |
| 12:40.48 | VIad | I think ideally you'd want to get the full set, then start to mythic and slowly replace it |
| 12:41.28 | Simca | you mean in an ideally-designed world? |
| 12:41.32 | VIad | yes |
| 12:41.45 | VIad | on a side note, did anyone do m+10 this week? |
| 12:41.50 | Simca | idk, i think their design intention was relatively fine |
| 12:41.51 | VIad | doesnt have to be timed :p |
| 12:41.59 | VIad | well the full set bonus is not bad |
| 12:42.05 | VIad | but you wont ever get to experience it :p |
| 12:42.16 | VIad | so thats bad design |
| 12:42.45 | VIad | as said, if you were half as active as me, you'd probably have replaced the lower gear from the set with dungeon gear, then you get the shoulders unlocked and set bonuses are broken anyway ;d |
| 12:42.56 | VIad | anyway reason I ask is we had tyrannical on +10 |
| 12:43.06 | VIad | and it looked bugged. it seemed like the bosses had 2x tyrannical |
| 12:43.35 | VIad | the base boost is 100% dmg and hp, then tyrannical says it adds 40% hp and 20% dmg right, so bosses are at 140% hp and 120% dmg |
| 12:43.47 | VIad | but the buff on the boss said 180% hp and 140% dmg |
| 12:44.09 | Simca | tyrannical is 20% each |
| 12:44.12 | Simca | unless i read it wrong |
| 12:44.25 | VIad | tyrannical said bosses do 20% more dmg and have 40% more hp |
| 12:44.32 | VIad | and the % should be additive |
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| 12:44.48 | VIad | what do you mean 20% each? |
| 12:45.04 | Simca | interesting, they changed it since end of beta |
| 12:45.36 | VIad | during I just moused over the description on the tracker |
| 12:45.43 | VIad | and it said what the modifiers did |
| 12:45.50 | Simca | i know, i already looked it up in the data |
| 12:45.52 | Simca | Boss enemies have 40% more health and inflict up to 20% increased damage. |
| 12:45.52 | VIad | but it looked bugged |
| 12:46.03 | VIad | for us looked like the bosses had double tyranical |
| 12:46.16 | nevcairiel | 200% base with 40% on top gives you 280% =p |
| 12:46.58 | Simca | true, if it is multiplicative |
| 12:47.05 | VIad | I thought its additive |
| 12:47.10 | nevcairiel | which the numbers would support |
| 12:47.30 | VIad | but its more confusing if its multiplicative |
| 12:47.37 | nevcairiel | not really |
| 12:47.44 | nevcairiel | they just do 40% more damage then without |
| 12:47.47 | nevcairiel | it works as advertised |
| 12:47.56 | VIad | a lot of things in wow are additive |
| 12:48.04 | Simca | sure |
| 12:48.06 | nevcairiel | if it would be additive they would only do 20% more |
| 12:48.21 | VIad | when we first work with % it makes more sense to work with additive |
| 12:48.27 | VIad | so the players can easier calculate it :p |
| 12:48.30 | nevcairiel | a lot of other things are also multiplicative =p |
| 12:49.01 | VIad | at +20 you got like 100% + 400% buff + the 20% tyrannical on boss = 520% |
| 12:49.19 | nevcairiel | 20 is probably unbeatable right now anyway |
| 12:49.20 | Simca | to be fair, if the players need help with that level of multiplication, they should try playing Math Blaster instead of WoW |
| 12:49.47 | VIad | suddenly its not 520 but 600 because the buff is multiplicative with the tyrannical :p |
| 12:49.59 | VIad | but the base you + with the buff |
| 12:50.17 | Simca | i think that's working as intended |
| 12:50.22 | VIad | the tyrannical you * with the total modifier |
| 12:50.34 | VIad | either only + or only * all the way |
| 12:50.36 | VIad | dont mix them |
| 12:50.38 | nevcairiel | stop thinking in percentages and just accept that tyrannical increases it by 20%, from whatever value it was before |
| 12:50.52 | nevcairiel | its not mixed, its all multiplied =p |
| 12:50.53 | Simca | both of the level 10 modifiers are the same type of thing (one on bosses, one on trash) |
| 12:51.14 | VIad | I cant wait for the bolstering trash with the modifier that makes trash do more dmg and have more hp |
| 12:51.15 | Simca | it would be a really harsh form of scaling, preventing people from going to like level 99 |
| 12:51.28 | Simca | that was first week i think, VIad |
| 12:51.32 | Simca | in US anyway |
| 12:51.39 | VIad | I didnt do +10 until this week |
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| 12:51.55 | nevcairiel | bolstering is pretty weak imho |
| 12:52.11 | nevcairiel | only part where it can become a problem is if a big mob is mixed with a bunch of really s mall ones |
| 12:52.15 | Simca | teeming > bolstering > sanguine, seems like |
| 12:52.28 | foxlit | crappiest legendary: get! |
| 12:52.28 | VIad | sanguine was easy for rdruid |
| 12:52.31 | Simca | (more like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sanguine) |
| 12:52.35 | VIad | the hots cancel each other out :p |
| 12:52.42 | nevcairiel | you think of overflowing |
| 12:52.44 | nevcairiel | not sanguine |
| 12:52.45 | VIad | ah yes |
| 12:52.46 | Shockah|Work | i'm waiting for them to add Diablo's arcane enchanted, so we can get insta-gib lazorz of death in WoW too |
| 12:52.59 | VIad | Shockah|Work: wardens first boss |
| 12:53.00 | VIad | :d |
| 12:53.02 | Simca | sanguine is the tiny blood pools that are a joke |
| 12:53.07 | VIad | you cant avoid death at +9 like we had |
| 12:53.14 | nevcairiel | some mobs have such circling lasers kinda deal |
| 12:53.20 | Simca | yeah you can actually, VIad |
| 12:53.22 | nevcairiel | like in arcway |
| 12:53.23 | Shockah|Work | VIad, arcane enchanted would be on each mob |
| 12:53.25 | Simca | you have to be running before it is cast |
| 12:53.25 | Shockah|Work | not just the boss |
| 12:53.30 | foxlit | Simca: easy fix: copy/paste the expanding area code from LK defile. |
| 12:53.55 | foxlit | suddenly, giant pools of death. |
| 12:53.59 | Shockah|Work | i hate arcane enchanted with a passion |
| 12:54.10 | VIad | boss has a turn animation then death after .5 seconds, right? |
| 12:54.20 | Shockah|Work | to the point i ran the "arcane effects heal you instead" in Kanai's cube for a whole season |
| 12:54.27 | Simca | it's instant, there's just a targeting latency |
| 12:54.31 | VIad | wtb kanais cube on wow |
| 12:54.35 | Simca | so you have to be running when it is cast to not be dead |
| 12:54.43 | Simca | we ran into a similar issue on lower difficulties, pretty much anything 5+ in VotW is an instagib for the floor laser |
| 12:54.44 | VIad | how can you know it will be cast+ |
| 12:54.55 | VIad | if there is no visual que or animations |
| 12:55.03 | VIad | I saw it as he just instantly turned around and lazer |
| 12:55.06 | Simca | DBM probably |
| 12:55.11 | VIad | and the first tick destroyed whoever was standing :p |
| 12:55.14 | Simca | this is WoW, we don't telegraph |
| 12:55.25 | Simca | we make players download boss mods |
| 12:55.27 | nevcairiel | we really didnt have any issues in VotW, but probably had the tank phase on that boss |
| 12:55.35 | Simca | yeah, the tank phase is substantially easier |
| 12:55.35 | Shockah|Work | BigWigs didn't include the laser last time i did it |
| 12:55.37 | Shockah|Work | (i died) |
| 12:55.45 | VIad | he lazers like the whatever ranged player you have |
| 12:55.53 | Shockah|Work | (so did our healer) |
| 12:55.54 | Simca | yeah, i was the healer and everyone else was melee |
| 12:56.07 | Simca | so it was pretty easy to predict who was going to get rekt, so i just never stopped moving |
| 12:56.09 | Simca | and it worked |
| 12:56.09 | VIad | can probably run around like an idiot all the time |
| 12:56.14 | Simca | yeah |
| 12:56.24 | VIad | but its weird like, I liked the ogres in UBRS |
| 12:56.33 | VIad | they gave a visual que where they will destroy your anus |
| 12:56.40 | VIad | I wish the boss had like that too |
| 12:56.47 | VIad | like he turns around and death ensues after a second |
| 12:56.58 | VIad | enough visual to indicate to move without addons |
| 12:57.18 | nevcairiel | most things do that |
| 12:57.25 | Simca | yeah this is one of the few cases in legion dungeons where there is no telegraph and if you didn't already know it was going to happen, you are dead |
| 12:57.32 | nevcairiel | but would be boring if there wasnt some things that have you worried |
| 12:57.33 | Simca | for the most part, they did a pretty good job |
| 12:58.24 | foxlit | the entirety of wow's encounter design is "if you don't know what will happen, you're dead" |
| 12:58.39 | Simca | true |
| 12:59.16 | nevcairiel | which is fine, as long as its relatively easy to learn |
| 12:59.39 | Simca | anyway, fights can have telegraphs for everything and still be challenging in m+, i.e. heimdall |
| 13:00.26 | foxlit | Some kind of "do not fail twice" mechanic would be preferable. |
| 13:00.48 | nevcairiel | still has you learning it after the first time making it kinda redundant |
| 13:01.02 | nevcairiel | next time you fight the boss you dont need it |
| 13:01.20 | foxlit | perks! |
| 13:01.21 | nevcairiel | might as well die to find out |
| 13:01.35 | nevcairiel | its not like you fight the boss for the first time on the highest difficulty |
| 13:01.42 | nevcairiel | if you go into m+ you should know wtf is going on |
| 13:01.46 | foxlit | it's mildly annoying for everyone else when you die to find things out |
| 13:02.04 | nevcairiel | and on normal mythic these things dont usually instagib you |
| 13:02.05 | foxlit | which leads to "everyone watched the video on how to do this boss?" |
| 13:02.20 | foxlit | which is soul-crushing. |
| 13:02.43 | Simca | there's still some mechanics you would never have noticed on lower difficulties, even if you were looking for every minor mechanic |
| 13:03.19 | Simca | for my group, the first time we did m+ VotW was the first time we'd ever seen the non-tank phase |
| 13:03.50 | Simca | every single time any of us had done it before that had been the tank phase and we were all like "uh, where's the circling laser, what was that instagib ground laser?" |
| 13:04.20 | nevcairiel | at least peeking into the EJ might be expected =p |
| 13:04.30 | Simca | i think i've still never fought the demon boss in VH |
| 13:04.39 | Simca | despite having done the place nearly 10 times |
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| 13:04.49 | nevcairiel | sorry |
| 13:05.32 | Simca | at least i don't need anything from him like a guildie does, apparently he has a good trinket for DPS or something |
| 13:05.51 | nevcairiel | i have a good trinket off the anubian boss |
| 13:05.54 | nevcairiel | but screw that |
| 13:05.59 | nevcairiel | random boss with random drop |
| 13:06.39 | Simca | there is no m+ VH, but I wonder if you can get m+ VH gear from the weekly box |
| 13:06.53 | nevcairiel | i believe people claimed so |
| 13:07.05 | Simca | makes sense, it's just a bonusID |
| 13:07.35 | Shockah|Work | so THAT'S WHY i never saw a Violet Hold mythic+ keystone |
| 13:07.49 | Shockah|Work | not like i'd like to do it |
| 13:07.54 | Simca | yeah, the instance is already timed, so they couldn't timer it harder i guess |
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| 13:07.59 | nevcairiel | they didnt want the timed nature of VH fighting against the timer |
| 13:08.13 | nevcairiel | but then they should've just closed VH entirely |
| 13:08.16 | Simca | also already has an enemy forces meter |
| 13:08.22 | nevcairiel | so many nices dungeons and you always cringe when someone suggests VH |
| 13:08.36 | nevcairiel | such a crapfest |
| 13:10.17 | foxlit | meh, vh is fine. |
| 13:10.36 | nevcairiel | its just sooo boring |
| 13:10.37 | foxlit | hate eye so much more! |
| 13:10.43 | nevcairiel | i always fall half asleep in there |
| 13:11.17 | nevcairiel | you can hate other dungeons for being annoying or hard or whatnot, but the silly timed events in vh just put me to sleep |
| 13:11.33 | Simca | yeah i tend to agree |
| 13:11.34 | Shockah|Work | we need 18 levers |
| 13:11.36 | Shockah|Work | for VH |
| 13:11.39 | Shockah|Work | not just 4 |
| 13:11.55 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 13:12.20 | Simca | my guild group usually saves all four for the miniboss right at the end |
| 13:12.31 | Simca | just so he can scream while huge chunks of his HP are blown off |
| 13:14.40 | foxlit | I pull them on the elite pack that spawns in the middle of nowhere |
| 13:15.08 | foxlit | because running there is too much trouble. |
| 13:15.09 | nevcairiel | we usually use 2 for the miniboss (3 kills him, fwiw), and 2 on elite packs before the miniboss |
| 13:15.57 | foxlit | miniboss is amusing in DF, it's always interesting to see how many rounds of exploding the melee subject themselves to. |
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| 13:45.13 | foxlit | hm, this cos instance spawned enforces on top of us... twice. |
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| 14:30.57 | Tentacle1 | Torhal: oh, didn't know of third-party controls. Heh, the more you know... :) Thanks. |
| 14:32.12 | Simca | Stanzilla: stuck again when you have a minute https://wow.curseforge.com/addons/libobjectiveprogress-1-0 |
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| 14:33.48 | Stanzilla | queued |
| 14:37.09 | Alram | why do they get stuck Simca |
| 14:37.11 | Alram | did you break it again |
| 14:37.34 | Simca | no, it's been like this for years, it just doesn't to register commits sometimes |
| 14:37.56 | Simca | like to* |
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| 14:42.12 | Tentacle1 | Torhal: riddle me this, however - is it possible to do AceConfigDialog:Open(current page yadda yadda) to update the current bunch of controls, but with an exception, so that my slider being dragged doesn't drop the drag? I have some controls that depend on each other's settings, and it's counter-intuitive if I have to drop a slider for the others to get the memo... |
| 15:02.33 | Simca | kinda sucks how hard JC is to level |
| 15:02.44 | Simca | Engineering cost me like... 20k to level total |
| 15:02.56 | Simca | JC will cost over 200k from just 780 to 800 |
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| 15:03.26 | Simca | and the big important epic gems everyone wants are at 800 |
| 15:03.38 | Thunder_Child | I have JC and Ench on the same character, that was a mistake. |
| 15:04.09 | Simca | well, you'll get a lot of leyline shards |
| 15:04.28 | Simca | considering how many rings and necklaces you have to make (all the gems are grey by 740) |
| 15:04.37 | Thunder_Child | Except the JC stuff isn't bop. |
| 15:04.57 | Simca | true, but it's mostly all trash |
| 15:05.23 | Thunder_Child | Yes, but I meant it is still a mistake to have it on the same character. |
| 15:05.29 | Thunder_Child | Oh well. |
| 15:05.50 | Simca | ah, yeah |
| 15:06.02 | Simca | i am leveling an alt and trying to get ore that way |
| 15:06.11 | Simca | though i have had really bad luck prospecting thus far lol |
| 15:06.22 | Simca | gemfinding shoulder enchant on my main gets me far more |
| 15:06.37 | Thunder_Child | That's nice. |
| 15:07.03 | Simca | it's revered court of farondis so it isn't too awful |
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| 15:09.57 | znf | Simca, but there's no point in leveling Engineering |
| 15:10.12 | Simca | blingtron 6000 is only available at 800 |
| 15:10.19 | znf | *shrug* |
| 15:10.32 | znf | I never even made blingtron 5000 |
| 15:10.34 | Simca | every profession has a couple of recipes that require 800 |
| 15:10.38 | nevcairiel | i heard simply putting that thing up costs resources every time you do it |
| 15:10.45 | nevcairiel | which seems incredibly stupid and noone will do it |
| 15:11.00 | znf | 5xFelslate for Reaves Battery |
| 15:11.07 | Simca | yeah, takes 5 felslate every summon, which makes reaves really shitty |
| 15:11.19 | znf | The snack module gives versatility |
| 15:11.30 | Simca | i barely have any felslate, certainly none for faffing about |
| 15:11.31 | nevcairiel | not like engineering ever was a really great profession |
| 15:11.33 | znf | The pylon... well, it was bugged until recently |
| 15:11.42 | znf | But you can craft pylons anywy |
| 15:11.47 | znf | But you can craft pylons anyway, separately |
| 15:11.56 | Simca | engineering has frequently been the best profession for min-max, nevcairiel |
| 15:12.12 | znf | because we used to get epic headpieces very fast |
| 15:12.15 | znf | but that changed |
| 15:12.23 | Simca | no. |
| 15:12.25 | Simca | nitros |
| 15:12.27 | nevcairiel | initial boost at leveling is not worth a profession |
| 15:12.37 | znf | failing nitros |
| 15:12.38 | Ammako | heard blingtron 6000 had really poor loot too didnt it |
| 15:12.56 | znf | no idea what it has, never seen it popped up :D |
| 15:13.01 | Simca | yes they increased the failure rate in instances/raids to nerf nitros |
| 15:13.16 | Simca | think they put it on the potion CD at some point too, but they might have undone that nerf |
| 15:13.30 | nevcairiel | doesnt that just make you run faster |
| 15:13.35 | Simca | yeah |
| 15:13.58 | Simca | run speed is a classically important thing that most people overlook though |
| 15:14.01 | nevcairiel | doesnt seem worth an otherwise crappy profession |
| 15:14.02 | Shockah|Work | i think it's still on the potion CD |
| 15:14.11 | nevcairiel | and yeah it got nerfed bad |
| 15:14.17 | znf | it's on the potion cd, yes |
| 15:14.26 | znf | Engineering is basically useless in instances |
| 15:14.39 | nevcairiel | professions generally are |
| 15:14.39 | znf | Sure, you can gain 10 seconds of run time when running back to your corpse |
| 15:14.39 | Simca | yeah, prior to that it was the profession of every hardcore raider |
| 15:14.44 | nevcairiel | but some at least let you produce useful stuff |
| 15:14.46 | Shockah|Work | znf, can use gliders out-of-combat :P |
| 15:14.52 | Ammako | i still dont have Inspector Gadgetzan... |
| 15:14.54 | Simca | producing useful stuff is not relevant to min-max |
| 15:14.55 | znf | It's only useful outside |
| 15:15.02 | znf | traveling in the world |
| 15:15.05 | znf | AH in Dalaran |
| 15:15.09 | znf | mailbox, jeeves |
| 15:15.10 | znf | that's about it |
| 15:15.13 | Shockah|Work | it's a cool way to get down to Cenarius. lol |
| 15:15.20 | nevcairiel | and thats why professions should just all be irrelevant in combat Simca =p |
| 15:15.39 | nevcairiel | because otherwise there is always one thats 0.01% better |
| 15:16.06 | znf | Could have done it that the fucking feast mode of blingtron gave something useful |
| 15:16.12 | znf | but noooo, let's have 225 versatility |
| 15:16.31 | znf | http://www.wowhead.com/item=132892/blingtron-6000-gift-package#comments |
| 15:17.45 | Simca | http://www.wowdb.com/items/132892-blingtron-6000-gift-package#related:contains-item |
| 15:17.47 | Simca | actual loot data |
| 15:17.57 | nevcairiel | but not sorted by niceness |
| 15:17.59 | nevcairiel | get on that |
| 15:18.18 | znf | basically, useless |
| 15:18.36 | nevcairiel | various pets, and possibly a super rare mount again that hasnt been logged yet |
| 15:18.44 | nevcairiel | so .. just like all the blingtrons? |
| 15:18.55 | Simca | yep |
| 15:18.57 | znf | yeah, but it cost shit to put it down |
| 15:18.58 | znf | so, nope |
| 15:18.59 | znf | fuck that |
| 15:19.09 | znf | engineering will ding 900 in the next expansion |
| 15:19.09 | znf | if. |
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| 15:19.40 | Simca | maybe they'll fix it in 7.1 |
| 15:19.55 | Simca | but yeah, 5 felslate to start a fireworks show, seems reasonable |
| 15:20.08 | Simca | they should just have done cooldowns |
| 15:23.03 | znf | Even 3 charges per battery would have been an improvement |
| 15:31.03 | Shockah|Work | that would make them unstackable though :S |
| 15:32.09 | znf | why would make more? :P |
| 15:32.13 | znf | you can just craft them on the spot |
| 15:32.27 | Shockah|Work | i guess |
| 15:33.33 | znf | I'm pretty sure all engineers are running around with the gnomish army knife in their inventory |
| 15:33.53 | nevcairiel | as long as it doesnt need an anvil |
| 15:34.19 | znf | it doesn't |
| 15:34.26 | nevcairiel | you could of course put one up, but thats already meh |
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| 15:34.47 | znf | it doesn't actually require anything |
| 15:35.21 | znf | it doesn't even require the toolkit |
| 15:40.47 | znf | Ironii, *poke* |
| 15:40.51 | znf | boost later? ^^ |
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| 15:42.36 | Snowkrim | Hi, anyone know whats the purpose of this bs in an addon? it's giving me mad lua errors (the LFG part) http://pastebin.com/ztZgAFpf |
| 15:43.40 | Shockah|Work | some currencies that don't exist anymore |
| 15:43.45 | Shockah|Work | sounds like WotLK |
| 15:43.50 | Shockah|Work | Justice Points and Valor Points? |
| 15:44.04 | Snowkrim | but why on earth he would put that stuff into an addon that monitors your shield/absorb values lol |
| 15:44.30 | Snowkrim | it actually doesn't do anything else, just creates a frame that tracks your absorbs (ice barrier, pw:s, etc) |
| 15:44.43 | Shockah|Work | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 15:44.48 | Shockah|Work | just remove this part |
| 15:45.12 | znf | why does it track LFG? |
| 15:45.24 | Snowkrim | no idea that's what I'm trying to figure out ._. |
| 15:45.25 | Snowkrim | http://pastebin.com/6kb0G7QR |
| 15:45.28 | Snowkrim | 989 |
| 15:45.30 | Shockah|Work | also not sure if you should bother using that addon |
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| 15:45.38 | Shockah|Work | i mean, it has prehistoric code |
| 15:45.47 | Shockah|Work | a lot could have changed since |
| 15:45.51 | Snowkrim | yea it's not maintained, but I couldn't find anything as nice for shields |
| 15:46.07 | Shockah|Work | uh |
| 15:46.10 | Shockah|Work | that's hardcoded |
| 15:46.13 | Shockah|Work | you can't use it |
| 15:46.34 | Shockah|Work | starting at line 30 of that pastebin'd code |
| 15:47.15 | Snowkrim | hm |
| 15:47.59 | Shockah|Work | local shieldpower = {} ; -- table for shield power cache -- REDUNDANT since 1.8.2 |
| 15:48.00 | Shockah|Work | oh god |
| 15:48.10 | Shockah|Work | wait there wasn't such a WoW version |
| 15:48.11 | Shockah|Work | was there |
| 15:49.19 | znf | ...what do you want to track, anyway? |
| 15:49.27 | znf | you can get the absorb value of your aura |
| 15:49.39 | nevcairiel | 1.8.2 did exist, but maybe it refers to addon version |
| 15:49.52 | Shockah|Work | that's what i was thinking about nevcairiel |
| 15:49.55 | Snowkrim | brb lfr boss |
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| 15:52.47 | znf | http://underlinejs.org/ |
| 15:52.49 | znf | wtf, javascript |
| 15:52.52 | znf | wtf hipster web devs |
| 15:54.06 | znf | https://css-tricks.com/styling-underlines-web/ |
| 15:56.00 | Snowkrim | Shockah|Work: that refers to AddOn version |
| 15:56.35 | Snowkrim | znf: it's just an addon that shows absorb values, like so: http://wow-create.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ShieldMonitor-sostoyanie-shhita.jpg |
| 15:56.43 | Snowkrim | really like how it looks and I've used it since 2012 so stuck with it ^^ |
| 15:56.54 | znf | you can do that in weakauras |
| 15:57.15 | Snowkrim | yea I know, there's also a far better addon Shield Tracker (in terms of being maintained for Legion) - but I'm just too used to the way this one looks |
| 15:57.22 | znf | tough if you want %, you will need some custom code |
| 15:58.34 | Snowkrim | yeah it shows %, duration left, current absorb amount, bar texture decreases relative to the absorb decrease and also an icon/color based on the shield you have :P |
| 15:58.47 | Snowkrim | whereas Shield Tracker just shows an ugly texture with total amount and nothing else |
| 15:58.59 | Snowkrim | and any kind of WA setup to replicate that I'd not be advanced enough to do anyway, so I just stuck with it |
| 15:59.10 | Snowkrim | but it's poorly maintained and has some random LFG / currency tracking code for some reason Oo |
| 16:02.16 | Snowkrim | http://imgur.com/RAcWkPd |
| 16:02.20 | Snowkrim | everytime I queue for LFR :D |
| 16:02.26 | Snowkrim | makes sense >_> |
| 16:03.02 | Snowkrim | *(temporary) = nil |
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| 16:19.54 | Torhal | Tentacle1: No idea, honestly. nevcairiel would know better than I. |
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| 16:50.23 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 16:50.32 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 17:21.04 | karl_w_w | isn't it illegal to sell food without showing the ingredients and nutrition? |
| 17:21.13 | karl_w_w | in like practically every country |
| 17:21.32 | karl_w_w | and yet amazon get away with it constantly |
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| 17:40.43 | kd3 | ugh. that was a little too much alcohol, I think |
| 17:42.49 | Fisker | Don't do it |
| 17:43.35 | znf | do it |
| 17:45.42 | Infus | TheDanW: so I got the SetTransform code working. Two questions though, after calling SetTransform(), is there any way to undo that? So that SetPosition/SetFacing work again? |
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| 17:50.45 | TheDanW | Infus: i believe its ClearTransform or similar |
| 17:52.48 | Infus | TheDanW: thanks, that works |
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| 18:04.54 | Semlar | what is the world map action button actually used for |
| 18:05.01 | Semlar | because i'm about to just remove it from the map |
| 18:07.35 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: probably my "finish a world quest instantly" ability |
| 18:08.01 | Semlar | hunters don't get that |
| 18:08.13 | Gnarfoz | worst class 2016 |
| 18:09.04 | znf | [21:06:17] Lorlathil Druid says: Is that... Felo'melorn? The Flamestrike? |
| 18:09.08 | znf | I want things like this, too :( |
| 18:09.20 | znf | but noooo, I get a maniacal whisper in my ear about killing stuff |
| 18:09.21 | Ammako | reroll fire mage |
| 18:10.04 | Ammako | theyre the hottest class/spec around |
| 18:11.09 | Semlar | PlaySound("UI_OrderHall_Talent_NukeFromOrbit") |
| 18:13.08 | znf | Semlar, no sound? |
| 18:14.18 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:21.07 | Ammako | assassination rogue artifact and fishing artifact should trade sheathing positions |
| 18:21.16 | shats | hi wowuidev |
| 18:21.32 | shats | there is a recent reddit post about lua only vs xml+lua. https://www.reddit.com/r/wowaddons/comments/56r7dw/devhelp_why_is_using_only_lua_better/ |
| 18:21.37 | shats | any thoughts on that? |
| 18:24.02 | znf | I don't know anyone who uses XML |
| 18:24.10 | foxlit | do what you wish. |
| 18:24.21 | znf | I mean, out of this channel here and the addon authors around, I don't think there's 1 who uses XML all around |
| 18:25.34 | |Jelly| | tackle-hugs Cairenn |
| 18:25.37 | znf | (except for maybe embeds.xml) |
| 18:25.42 | Cairenn | smoogles |Jelly| |
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| 18:26.18 | shats | is it harder to develop or package using xml? |
| 18:30.47 | znf | more stuff to write :P |
| 18:38.46 | Fisker | I need sleep |
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| 18:40.58 | Ammako | ill sell you sleep |
| 18:40.59 | Simca | XML is just not worth the bother 90% of the time, imo. when it makes sense is when you have a ton of frames and they're dependent on each other to be layered in a certain way, then it can make more structural sense at a glance in XML |
| 18:41.22 | Ammako | 50gp each |
| 18:42.21 | Simca | i think a lot of the dislike of XML comes from how it implicitly does things sometimes, whereas with Lua you -have- to be very explicit |
| 18:46.19 | shats | makes sense, if the addon is simple or very dynamic I can see the static layout not being worth the bother |
| 18:46.36 | shats | what sort of things does XML do implicitly that is annoying? |
| 18:46.49 | VIad | we made the silver time on +4 HOV and I got a DEPLETED keystone for +6 DHT |
| 18:46.55 | VIad | wtf? why did I get depleted keystone? :/ |
| 18:48.47 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 18:49.07 | Fisker | Yay |
| 18:50.16 | znf | My internet crapped out for a bit (well, actually my access point somehow negotiated 10Mbit ethernet instead of 100), life on 10Mbps was horrible |
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| 19:14.57 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: I'll change the post, but -1. |
| 19:15.07 | Cairenn | okay |
| 19:15.21 | Thunder_Child | Thanks. |
| 19:15.40 | Cairenn | Sorry your guest can't attend after all |
| 19:16.29 | Thunder_Child | She was thinking Oct. It seems she is out of the country starting Nov. |
| 19:16.47 | Thunder_Child | I blame Guill. |
| 19:16.57 | Cairenn | ah |
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| 20:34.59 | Sharparam | http://rfl.im/YH |
| 20:35.01 | Sharparam | god damnit :( |
| 20:35.22 | Andols_ | :( |
| 20:35.53 | Sharparam | speaking of +0 |
| 20:36.00 | Andols_ | I can go if you need a healer :P |
| 20:36.04 | Sharparam | i'm healer :P |
| 20:36.16 | Sharparam | i was about to ask if there's any EU dps here who wanna join for some +0 quests |
| 20:36.38 | Andols_ | or wait, I already did it this week :/ |
| 20:36.46 | Sharparam | :\ |
| 20:37.21 | Andols_ | Black Rook, Arcway and cour is open for me :) |
| 20:38.17 | Sharparam | i have quests for maw, neltharion, and azshara |
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| 20:50.57 | karl_w_w | beautiful http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/perth-man-says-thanks-after-thief-leaves-money-removes-problem-stereo-20161010-grz68p.html |
| 20:53.09 | Thunder_Child | Must have been a Canadian that robbed the car. |
| 20:57.24 | VIad | karl_w_w: seen the new meta? wait to enter game for 2 min so the carry gets expensive item at 2 min mark? |
| 21:05.46 | karl_w_w | haven't played in a few days VIad |
| 21:06.03 | VIad | you can go 5 man, 4 guys wait for 1:59 before joining |
| 21:06.11 | VIad | the carry will get all their starting gold and gpm |
| 21:06.57 | VIad | I still dont understand why you dont get automatically joined in the game when timer reaches 0 |
| 21:07.06 | VIad | why do you HAVE to click the button to enter world? |
| 21:18.10 | Stanzilla | TheDanW Guill any idea what randomly breaks the auto complete popup for real id names? |
| 21:18.56 | znf | Ironii has abandoned me :( |
| 21:19.07 | Andols | :( |
| 21:19.39 | Guill | Stanzilla: GetAutoCompleteResults does not return RID names when called from tainted code. It's part of the tech that prevents AddOns from getting the real names of your friends. |
| 21:20.03 | Tentacle1 | I wondered about the XML thing myself, and ended up assuming it's because you can give an XSD to a designer who doesn't speak Lua at all, and they'll build you whole blocks of interface, which you can then script out. |
| 21:20.26 | Stanzilla | Guill: so because it randomly works, I assume that is just pre-taint |
| 21:20.30 | Stanzilla | and then something ruins it |
| 21:21.11 | Ironii | znf im already on bed watching tv and trying to sleep |
| 21:21.15 | Guill | Stanzilla: Sounds correct to me. It also does still auto-complete on whole-word boundaries even from tainted code. (e.g. it'll auto-complete "Sylvanas Windrunner" if you type in "Sylvanas", but not from "Sylv") |
| 21:21.19 | znf | Ironii, what you doin' tomorow? :D |
| 21:22.11 | Stanzilla | Guill: hrm ok, any hints on what could taint that part? And I think it did work for me with the first name only either when it was broken |
| 21:22.28 | Ironii | atleast one m10, but other than that, dont know |
| 21:22.28 | znf | now that I'm exalted: http://i.imgur.com/Z9cIzKE.png |
| 21:22.29 | znf | :D |
| 21:22.35 | znf | Ironii, mine is just +6, cool |
| 21:22.44 | znf | I'm booking myself into your schedule |
| 21:22.55 | Ironii | x) |
| 21:23.11 | znf | and I've got legendary since then! |
| 21:23.14 | znf | (or did I have one?) |
| 21:23.31 | Ironii | no idea |
| 21:23.44 | Stanzilla | Guill: ah I see, it does work if I already talked to that person this session, but not if it is a new one, cache? |
| 21:24.18 | Guill | Stanzilla: That sounds odd |
| 21:24.28 | Stanzilla | I can demo |
| 21:24.45 | znf | wait, there's a GetAutoCompleteResults? Since when? :-| |
| 21:25.05 | nebula | quite some time now |
| 21:25.09 | Stanzilla | Guill: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/8j217q3dhrj817i/2016-10-10_23-24-31.webm |
| 21:25.12 | znf | oh, wait, the pop-up |
| 21:25.13 | Guill | znf: Since early 2010 :P |
| 21:25.20 | Stanzilla | as you can see, I have talked with dominik before, but not with bernd |
| 21:25.22 | znf | I hated that popup |
| 21:25.23 | Stanzilla | it works with d but not with b |
| 21:25.37 | znf | I'm still using this: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6761-NickCompleter.html |
| 21:26.58 | Tentacle1 | Hmm. Speaking of autocomplete. Is it feasible to inject stuff into the autocompleter, or am I looking at rolling my own from scratch? |
| 21:28.28 | nebula | i mean, like all blizzard stuff you can hook the function that populates the popup and add more or mixin your own results by replacing the content |
| 21:28.51 | Guill | Stanzilla: And you have an online RID friend whose first name is "bernd"? |
| 21:29.11 | Stanzilla | Guill: two actually |
| 21:29.32 | Guill | I'm not sure then. Possibly a bug. |
| 21:30.22 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 21:30.28 | Stanzilla | want me to make a wowi forum post? |
| 21:31.04 | Guill | Stanzilla: Sure :) I'd also try testing it with AddOns disabled and see if it happens then. |
| 21:31.14 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 21:32.18 | Stanzilla | I'm not sure how useful that is though, since we're talking about a function that already asumes tainted code |
| 21:32.49 | nebula | don't forget to clear your cache and delete your wtf folder, too |
| 21:33.08 | foxlit | also reboot pc and reinstall windows? :) |
| 21:33.40 | nebula | i bet it doesn't happen with windows 10! |
| 21:33.52 | znf | also delete Interface |
| 21:34.03 | Stanzilla | I'll just delete nebula |
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| 21:38.07 | Ironii | random question #216: is the intent behind blocking click-to-cast/targeting from nameplate grids to just disable casting from them, or both? |
| 21:38.24 | znf | https://gfycat.com/ColossalThirdGosling |
| 21:38.28 | znf | TAB TARGETTING )(&@)(#!@*YO(UHGDSA\ |
| 21:39.12 | Ironii | what im wondering about is that is there any real reason to try to look for a work around for the targeting thing, or would it just be hotfixed in the next patch |
| 21:39.27 | nebula | Ironii: does it really stop it, though? can't you just use @mouseover |
| 21:39.52 | foxlit | you can't use mouseover. |
| 21:40.23 | nebula | how does that not break mousing over units in the world then? |
| 21:40.47 | Ironii | you can't use mouseover from grids becouse they can't use nameplateX as a unit |
| 21:40.48 | znf | I think you simply can't create frames with a targetting token anymore? |
| 21:40.52 | foxlit | because units in the world are not managed by your unit frame addon code stack, they can do whatever they wish. |
| 21:41.34 | nebula | Ironii: i mean using macrotext instead of spell |
| 21:41.48 | nebula | but apparently no dice |
| 21:42.05 | Ironii | but you aren't mouseovering anything when you are mouseovering a nameplate grid frame ;s |
| 21:43.48 | nebula | i never used them, but i assumed they worked like any other unit frame, just instead of raid1 it was nameplate1 |
| 21:44.42 | Ironii | y |
| 21:47.26 | VIad | znf: what is that video you made with spamming target? |
| 21:47.38 | VIad | you are not the first to be annoyed by nameplates from the ground ;p |
| 21:47.38 | znf | VIad, the joys of tab targetting! |
| 21:47.42 | Ironii | but you can't use nameplateX as a unit token in 7.1 so the frames don't have any units, they will be just normal frames |
| 21:48.28 | VIad | hmm. arent nameplate1 units? |
| 21:48.35 | VIad | or they get removed in 7.1? :/ |
| 21:48.39 | nebula | 7.1 changes them a bit |
| 21:48.42 | VIad | aw man |
| 21:48.46 | VIad | why remove the units? damn it |
| 21:48.59 | VIad | its like they hate you to be able to make a unitframe of nameplates |
| 21:49.01 | nebula | they're not removed, they just can't be used to make enemygrid or whatever |
| 21:49.07 | VIad | ,_, |
| 21:49.17 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.26 | Ironii | you can't use them as unit tokens for unitframes, targeting or spell casts |
| 21:49.29 | Ironii | but you can still get info about them |
| 21:49.33 | Tentacle1 | /tar feathers |
| 21:49.41 | nebula | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.30 | znf | like I said, at least we retain aura tracking |
| 21:51.08 | znf | what's the max score, again, for the stupid scenario? |
| 21:51.30 | Ironii | 425 for reputation |
| 21:51.35 | nebula | 375* |
| 21:51.48 | Ironii | really ? O.o |
| 21:51.54 | znf | lol: http://i.imgur.com/TbbQ4hw.png |
| 21:51.58 | znf | and for toys/ap? :D |
| 21:52.03 | znf | does it make any difference? |
| 21:52.10 | nebula | no idea |
| 21:54.03 | znf | what does the Starcaller do, again? |
| 21:54.36 | Ssateneth | no shadow priest is ever going to be in my group / raid |
| 21:54.38 | Ssateneth | EVERRRRRRR |
| 21:54.46 | znf | slaps Ssateneth |
| 21:54.49 | znf | cunt, what? >_< |
| 21:54.51 | Ssateneth | kappa |
| 21:58.32 | znf | send me back home, oculeth |
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| 21:59.00 | foxlit | okay, activating your hearthstone, znf. |
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| 22:01.43 | znf | why am I even browsing this gardening section of this website |
| 22:19.30 | fewyn | so arcway was "fun" |
| 22:19.40 | fewyn | did it for the first time and on +4 teeming |
| 22:20.33 | Ironii | does US have teeming+skittish this week? |
| 22:20.46 | fewyn | does it rotate or something? |
| 22:20.49 | Gnarfoz | (why would you go on a mythic+ run on your first ever visit?) |
| 22:20.51 | fewyn | i've heard of both so far |
| 22:20.53 | Gnarfoz | yes, weekly |
| 22:20.55 | fewyn | because it was my keystone |
| 22:21.00 | fewyn | Gnarfoz |
| 22:21.01 | Ironii | not sure, i assumed it would be random |
| 22:21.08 | Gnarfoz | rotates weekly, region-wise |
| 22:21.17 | Gnarfoz | (the entire affix combination stack) |
| 22:21.50 | Ironii | is there different amount of L4 & L7 affixes or are they always the same? |
| 22:22.10 | Gnarfoz | amount? from +4 there's one, from +7 there's two, from +10 there's 3 |
| 22:22.26 | nebula | Ironii: yes |
| 22:22.38 | nebula | Ironii: erm, it's teeming+skittish |
| 22:22.38 | Gnarfoz | not sure I entirely got the question ^^ |
| 22:23.05 | Ironii | like teeming+skittish+trash buff, enrage+necrotic+trash, bolstering+overflowing+boss, +xxx |
| 22:23.36 | Ironii | Gnarfoz if they are rotating and there is only 4 L4 affixes and 4 L7 affixes, the setups would be the same on every rotation |
| 22:23.43 | nebula | the 4/7 are always the same for the region for the week |
| 22:23.52 | Ironii | but if there is 5xL4 and 4xL7 they would change on each rotation |
| 22:24.17 | nebula | i haven't done enough 10s to see if it's completely random |
| 22:24.18 | Gnarfoz | still not entirely sure why 4/4 would mean there's only 1 combination, but: the pool of possible combinations is hand-picked by Blizzard |
| 22:24.22 | Gnarfoz | not every combination is possible |
| 22:24.35 | Gnarfoz | or lets say, "hand-pruned" |
| 22:24.44 | nebula | curated even |
| 22:24.56 | fewyn | i would assume a couple of the affixes might be impossible together |
| 22:25.06 | nevcairiel | iirc some 4 and 7 affixes overlap, so you can have one in 4 and the next week in 7 |
| 22:25.20 | Ironii | nope |
| 22:25.32 | nevcairiel | there hasnt been enough time to conclusively prove that =p |
| 22:25.38 | Ironii | there are specific L4 and L7 affixes |
| 22:25.53 | Ironii | well, afaik the info is based on beta ;P |
| 22:26.03 | Ironii | and so far it has bee ncorrect ^^ |
| 22:26.17 | Ironii | aaand it kinda makes sense |
| 22:27.32 | znf | Only the fat ones will do |
| 22:28.07 | Gnarfoz | didn't Watcher even post a list? |
| 22:28.19 | Gnarfoz | at the point where they took out some affixes during beta and replaced them |
| 22:29.54 | Ironii | L4 affixes are for npcs (more mobs, enrage, buff other npcs, explode on death), L7 are for players (threat, overhealing, -healing/absorb, move from zones) |
| 22:30.25 | Gnarfoz | you have to move the mobs from zones, too, though (actually probably more importantly) |
| 22:30.36 | nebula | hmm, Sanguine was 4 last week i think |
| 22:30.39 | Gnarfoz | also: volcanoes?! :P |
| 22:30.50 | Ironii | what zones |
| 22:30.54 | Gnarfoz | sanguine |
| 22:31.00 | Gnarfoz | the one you listed last on L7 |
| 22:31.08 | Ironii | isn't that the one that they do on death? |
| 22:31.20 | Ironii | never had it |
| 22:31.22 | Gnarfoz | heals mobs, damages players |
| 22:31.25 | nebula | yea, i guess you ment volcanic |
| 22:31.25 | Ironii | ah |
| 22:31.37 | Gnarfoz | oh, hm |
| 22:31.45 | Gnarfoz | you might have meant "explode on death" with that? :D |
| 22:32.03 | Gnarfoz | (otherwise wtf is "explode on death") |
| 22:32.14 | Ironii | tbh im not sure how it works |
| 22:32.23 | Ironii | i just know some mobs do some shit when they die and you have to move away from them |
| 22:32.33 | nebula | a few seconds after they die a pool forms |
| 22:32.35 | Ironii | and on L7 there is something that will cast stuff under players and you need to move |
| 22:33.19 | nebula | but that list does make sense, guess well have to wait for something to deviate from it :p |
| 22:48.53 | Tentacle1 | Whee! Lua globals and table keys autocompletion! :P |
| 22:57.44 | znf | stop breaking things |
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| 23:22.40 | Stanzilla | https://twitter.com/KirillWasHere/status/785588385599655937/video/1 |
| 23:23.23 | nebula | lol |
| 23:31.17 | znf | that is too short |
| 23:31.18 | znf | :D |
| 23:31.27 | znf | even the youtube video is too short! |
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| 23:49.09 | znf | lol https://gfycat.com/ElasticIgnorantFlyingfish |
| 23:53.50 | Arrowmaster | failure to maintain proper 3 dimensional awareness |
| 23:59.10 | Gnarfoz | anyone need a maglev train? http://www.vebeg.de/web/de/verkauf/suchen.htm?SHOW_AUS=1643270&SHOW_LOS=1&nolistlink=1 |
