| 00:06.12 | Gnarfoz | what you doing bro |
| 00:06.35 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 00:06.36 | Gnarfoz | that thing |
| 00:07.04 | Gnarfoz | maybe check what Details, Skada are doing |
| 00:17.41 | nebula | BreakUpLargeNumbers? |
| 00:18.38 | Torhal | But what does it mean, nebula? "BreakUp LargeNumbers" or "Break UpLarge Numbers" or...? |
| 00:18.50 | pompy | ~lart Torhal |
| 00:18.50 | purl | overclocks Torhal until Torhal burns out |
| 00:18.54 | pompy | heh |
| 00:18.55 | Torhal | :/ |
| 00:19.08 | pompy | purl knows you too well :( |
| 00:30.45 | zenzelezz | ~emulate pompy |
| 00:30.50 | zenzelezz | oh well |
| 00:31.02 | sticklord | vlad |
| 00:33.12 | pompy | ~emulate Torhal |
| 00:33.12 | purl | Ackis, it's ALL your fault! |
| 00:33.19 | pompy | ~emulate znf |
| 00:33.19 | purl | I MUST COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING. |
| 00:34.46 | znf | WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZARD |
| 00:34.57 | znf | you know that cannon quest in suramar? |
| 00:35.00 | pompy | lmao |
| 00:35.02 | znf | where you have to kill a billion little shits? |
| 00:35.07 | znf | to drop the stupid ammo? |
| 00:35.17 | pompy | legion ammunition |
| 00:35.20 | znf | I got the ammo, I got into the cannon |
| 00:35.24 | znf | then I invited someone to a party |
| 00:35.31 | znf | it removed me from cannon |
| 00:35.32 | znf | poof ammo |
| 00:35.40 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 00:35.46 | pompy | you hopped to his server |
| 00:36.04 | znf | he was from my server |
| 00:36.06 | znf | and he was next to me |
| 00:36.12 | znf | so not a different shard |
| 00:36.15 | pompy | gg |
| 00:36.30 | znf | I only had to kill 8 mobs to drop the ammo |
| 00:37.41 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 00:37.48 | zenzelezz | I've never had to kill more than three |
| 00:38.29 | znf | lucky you |
| 00:38.55 | znf | but... why would you remove me from the cannon? |
| 00:38.57 | znf | wtf is up with that? |
| 00:39.28 | Ammako | i just kill them without the cannon, less of a hassle |
| 00:39.29 | znf | I just wanted to do a good deed and invite a random guy that was looking for the same item... |
| 00:39.55 | zenzelezz | "no good deed goes unpunished" |
| 00:39.59 | zenzelezz | but yes, that seems weird |
| 00:40.02 | pompy | he just needs to attack the same mob, you dont have to invite? |
| 00:40.47 | foxlit | but attacking the same mob is difficult for people! |
| 00:41.15 | znf | they're flying bats |
| 00:41.19 | foxlit | so what you really want to do is group up with some other people who would attack the mobs for you, thereby saving 27.3% of time required to do world quests. |
| 00:41.49 | znf | and now I've killed 5 of those mobs again |
| 00:41.50 | znf | no ammo |
| 00:42.03 | pompy | ARE YOU IN A RAID GROUP? |
| 00:42.07 | pompy | :P |
| 00:42.09 | znf | no |
| 00:44.29 | znf | oh my god |
| 00:44.31 | znf | 6th mob |
| 00:44.41 | Ammako | pretty sure every class has a ranged pull of some sort, there are a few places you can stand where the bats get close enough that youcan just aggro them and kill them manually |
| 00:45.01 | znf | not if there's someone else int eh cannon shooting them down :D |
| 00:45.14 | Ammako | pff they'll run out of ammoo |
| 00:45.25 | znf | they don't :-/ |
| 00:45.39 | znf | I'm sure there's a guy called Satan working as a quest designer |
| 00:45.53 | znf | marking a specific set of quests for a low/retarded drop rate |
| 00:46.36 | Ammako | probably the same person who made How To Win Friends And Influence Enemies |
| 00:47.38 | mfgmfg | have we figured out yet the cause of 'retrieving item information' or how to work around it? really annoying when it's a keystone |
| 00:47.41 | Semlar | TheDanW: is the overflowing mythic+ modifier bugged |
| 00:48.05 | Semlar | it says it turns any overhealing you do into an absorb shield for 200% of the overheal |
| 00:48.11 | znf | I can bet that it's the same guy who in the beta wanted to grant +25 rep to world quests with Nightfallen |
| 00:48.26 | znf | but someone went over his cubicle and slapped him |
| 00:48.26 | Semlar | what it currently does, is if your heal would have overhealed, it turns the entire heal into an absorb shield and doesn't heal the person at all |
| 00:49.03 | Semlar | so if you do something like use lay on hands on someone at low health, they get no healing, and get an absorb shield for 200% of their health bar |
| 00:49.17 | Semlar | which doesn't seem right |
| 00:50.55 | Semlar | well, actually its description is just "Healing in excess of a target's maximum health is instead converted to a heal absorption effect" |
| 00:51.19 | Semlar | so i guess it could be working as intended, and you just can't bring a holy paladin to one of these |
| 00:51.59 | znf | just bring 5 tank DHs |
| 00:52.59 | mfgmfg | looks like a 300% absorb looking at this log |
| 00:53.07 | mfgmfg | Allerro Echo of Light Lalachan Tick +19278 (O: 6438) |
| 00:53.08 | mfgmfg | Lalachan is afflicted by Overflow from Allerro (Remaining: 19314) |
| 00:53.28 | znf | "The elites in this city revel in excess" |
| 00:53.30 | znf | nope, don't care |
| 00:55.23 | Semlar | that is not how it went for us mfgmfg |
| 00:57.17 | Semlar | how i would expect it to work, is the person would get healed to 100%, then overhealing would turn into an absorb shield |
| 00:57.42 | Semlar | how it works, since holy paladins heal for your entire health bar, is you take no healing and you get a massive absorb shield |
| 00:58.01 | mfgmfg | got logs? |
| 00:58.04 | Semlar | no |
| 00:58.38 | Semlar | just an hour and a half in eye of azshara |
| 00:59.22 | mfgmfg | seems like only healer heals trigger it? |
| 00:59.45 | mfgmfg | i'm looking at a random mythic+ log on WCL and the priest seems to be the only source of the overflow debuff |
| 00:59.57 | Semlar | passive healing doesn't |
| 01:00.11 | Semlar | or at least self heals that are automatic |
| 01:00.15 | mfgmfg | https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1mHk8zA9DwKxQGPX#type=auras&ability=221772&spells=debuffs&view=events |
| 01:01.03 | Semlar | as far as i could tell only direct heals that you cast caused it |
| 01:01.22 | Semlar | i doubt it's explicitly just the healer or you could have someone who isn't in a healing spec healing |
| 01:01.40 | znf | does that shit proc from self-heals you can't control? |
| 01:01.44 | znf | like vampiric embrace? |
| 01:01.48 | foxlit | in mythics, semlar? |
| 01:01.49 | znf | erm, vampiric touch |
| 01:02.01 | Semlar | mythic 7+ |
| 01:02.11 | foxlit | that's going to last you all of 12 seconds. |
| 01:02.43 | Semlar | considering our paladin almost had to stop healing entirely, it may not be impossible |
| 01:02.43 | mfgmfg | foxlit, it's not a damage absorb |
| 01:03.22 | foxlit | mfgmfg: duh. |
| 01:03.38 | Semlar | next time he's going to try the thing that redirects damage from people nearby to him and just healing himself |
| 01:03.38 | znf | wow |
| 01:03.39 | foxlit | The point was that you can't do mythic+7 with a healer in a non-healing spec. |
| 01:03.42 | znf | 850 pants from emissary quest |
| 01:04.11 | znf | oh, 845, nevermind |
| 01:04.20 | Semlar | i don't know how well it's going to work since it's limited to 15 yards |
| 01:04.55 | Semlar | we got a legendary out of the chest so it wasn't a total waste |
| 01:05.09 | Semlar | we were reeeeeally close to just leaving after the first boss |
| 01:05.16 | znf | why leave? :P |
| 01:05.20 | znf | you still get loooooooooooooooot |
| 01:05.40 | Semlar | i don't think you realize how long it looked like it was going to take to complete that instance |
| 01:05.52 | znf | I can realize :D |
| 01:06.00 | znf | but what's +7 base level? |
| 01:06.01 | Semlar | thankfully the other bosses didn't take us anywhere near as long as the first one |
| 01:06.02 | znf | 860? |
| 01:06.08 | Semlar | 855 i think |
| 01:06.13 | Semlar | it was barely worth it |
| 01:06.29 | znf | so, overflowing - does it affect self-heals you can't control? |
| 01:06.34 | znf | like Vampiric Touch? |
| 01:06.42 | Semlar | it didn't affect leech, so i don't know |
| 01:07.00 | Semlar | it shouldn't, but it might depend on just how much healing it does |
| 01:08.21 | mfgmfg | Semlar, did they possibly already have an absorb up when you tried to lay on hands |
| 01:08.28 | foxlit | it's somehow sad that all of the mythic affixes are "dear healers: we hate you so much" |
| 01:08.50 | Semlar | i don't know, bolstering was kind of a nightmare |
| 01:08.58 | Semlar | but it was sort of on the dps |
| 01:09.20 | Semlar | unless they screwed up and then it was the healer's problem |
| 01:10.00 | znf | ....and I wanted a autumn jacked |
| 01:10.01 | znf | ....and I wanted a autumn jacket |
| 01:10.05 | znf | and I saw the price |
| 01:10.08 | znf | now I don't want it anymore |
| 01:10.20 | foxlit | was the jacket cool, at least? |
| 01:10.28 | mfgmfg | Tensaarr Lay on Hands Aerowinn +927048 (O: 1423713) Aerowinn is afflicted by Overflow from Tensaarr (Remaining: 4271139) |
| 01:10.34 | Semlar | already having the absorb shield shouldn't matter |
| 01:10.41 | Semlar | it's absorbing healing |
| 01:11.02 | znf | it was |
| 01:11.10 | Semlar | if anything it should be making the overhealing smaller |
| 01:11.19 | znf | but I'm not paying 200⬠for something that I wear maybe for 2 weeks |
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| 01:13.37 | Semlar | when are those logs from |
| 01:13.44 | mfgmfg | Xanriel's Overflow fades from Xanriel (Remaining: 519760) Xanriel Lay on Hands Xanriel +1850804 (A: 519760) |
| 01:13.54 | mfgmfg | random mythic+ on WCL semlar |
| 01:14.01 | znf | Surprisingly, I have no issue paying 200⬠for a bracelet that I wear all time. |
| 01:14.02 | mfgmfg | from today |
| 01:14.59 | Semlar | this makes it sound like the person is still getting healed |
| 01:15.09 | Semlar | which is 100% not how it was behaving for us |
| 01:15.09 | foxlit | wait, what does a 200eur bracelet even look like? |
| 01:16.30 | Semlar | i don't have any logs though so who the fuck knows |
| 01:16.43 | mfgmfg | Semlar, 1.15m melee hit from molten charskin 1.5s after the LOH |
| 01:16.59 | mfgmfg | so pretty sure the heal worked otherwise they'd be dead |
| 01:17.34 | Semlar | i mean it's possible they hotfixed it since yesterday when we did it but that seems pretty unlikely |
| 01:18.01 | mfgmfg | if you have a depleted stone, find a warlock and do some testing? |
| 01:19.32 | znf | let's see if I'm drunk enough to nail this formatting |
| 01:21.10 | Semlar | it's possible the way the default ui displays healing absorbs was fucking with it |
| 01:21.26 | Semlar | because it basically removes that part of your healthbar |
| 01:22.05 | Semlar | if you have a large healing absorb effect on you, it looks like you're about to die |
| 01:22.28 | Semlar | i don't know if there's a way to turn that off |
| 01:22.32 | foxlit | something is wrong with your monitor |
| 01:22.49 | foxlit | it does indicate absorbtion that way, but you can clearly tell you still have that health |
| 01:24.39 | Semlar | it darkens the absorb amount and is not clear about how much actual health you have, looks the same as incoming heal prediction |
| 01:26.16 | znf | darkens Semlar |
| 01:26.22 | znf | Semlar, where are my nomplates? |
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| 01:31.41 | pompy | Considering this one has been abandoned forever, is there a current addon that does what this one did? |
| 01:31.47 | znf | What's the latest and greatest non-K Core i7 these days? |
| 01:32.09 | Semlar | what addon |
| 01:32.21 | pompy | oh sorry . https://www.wowace.com/addons/broker-hitcrit/ |
| 01:39.14 | mfgmfg | maybe Torhal knows? |
| 01:40.38 | znf | Are there non-K Core i7s?! |
| 01:42.23 | znf | I can't understand the Intel Core arhitecture |
| 01:44.53 | foxlit | https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/uk/en/processors/core/core-i7ee-processor.html |
| 01:45.16 | Gnarfoz | that's not what he wants, though. |
| 01:45.49 | Gnarfoz | i7-6700 is the one that qualifies, znf |
| 01:46.56 | foxlit | 6950X clearly doesn't have a K in it :P |
| 01:47.17 | znf | not even a 50% performance increase over my cpu, by the looks of it |
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| 01:50.24 | Torhal | mfgmfg: Maybe I know what? |
| 01:51.33 | znf | the differente between K and non-K is 30â¬... |
| 01:51.33 | znf | wtf |
| 01:51.56 | p3lim | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=319538#post319538 |
| 01:51.58 | znf | (less than 30â¬, that is) |
| 01:52.24 | p3lim | I will never understand why people go through the trouble of searching through old topics, create a new account, and post something just to necrobump it |
| 01:53.03 | foxlit | spammers. |
| 01:53.14 | p3lim | Not that the subforum is active or anything, topics from 2012 are on the first page >_> |
| 01:53.25 | Torhal | I concur with the spammers assessment. |
| 01:55.18 | foxlit | sprinkle a few zero-content posts in places where nobody would pay too much attention, edit signature to promote free viagra after moderator attention fades. |
| 01:55.47 | ls- | ew, necro... |
| 01:56.10 | znf | y u no recaptcha on registration? |
| 01:56.43 | foxlit | doesn't actually help. |
| 01:56.48 | p3lim | foxlit: didn't think of that |
| 01:57.01 | p3lim | I forget that signatures even exist on forums, I always disable that crap |
| 01:57.23 | p3lim | nothing worthwhile in them anyways, usually just self-advertising or a random shitty quote or banner |
| 01:58.52 | znf | Gnarfoz, why should I get a Core i7? http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-6700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4440 |
| 01:59.30 | Gnarfoz | yeah, why would you? |
| 01:59.36 | Gnarfoz | you probably don't need it. |
| 01:59.42 | mfgmfg | http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-6700-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790k |
| 01:59.50 | mckenziemc | because intel needs your money |
| 01:59.57 | Gnarfoz | getting a 2 generation old one doesn't make sense, though. |
| 02:00.39 | Torhal | The naming scheme isn't at all confusing, either. |
| 02:00.40 | Torhal | >.> |
| 02:00.50 | Gnarfoz | however, the model to compare against would be the i5-6600 |
| 02:00.58 | Gnarfoz | not really, no |
| 02:01.22 | Gnarfoz | i5's are quad cores, i7's are the same, but have SMT (hyper threading) |
| 02:01.39 | Gnarfoz | K means unlocked multiplier for overclocking |
| 02:02.02 | Gnarfoz | I doubt you'll buy any of the the models with some of the other suffix letters or crap so that's about it. |
| 02:02.06 | Torhal | The i7-4790K beats the shit out of the i7-6700K which seems non-intuitive. |
| 02:02.17 | Gnarfoz | it does? |
| 02:02.25 | Gnarfoz | I wonder why the loser has the higher score, then |
| 02:02.31 | znf | I'm guessing the 6700k uses less power? |
| 02:02.46 | Gnarfoz | and that comparison was against the non-k model. |
| 02:02.47 | ls- | znf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toZ_t88bPBU |
| 02:02.57 | mfgmfg | http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700 |
| 02:03.02 | znf | fuck that |
| 02:03.05 | znf | not changing my CPU |
| 02:03.10 | znf | until I can get a free deal again |
| 02:03.24 | Gnarfoz | yeah, too dumb to figure out model numbers, let's skip upgrading. sounds reasonable. :P |
| 02:03.31 | Gnarfoz | (hint: you probably don't need a new CPU anyway) |
| 02:03.46 | znf | I don't want to pay 400⬠for a new CPU + ~150⬠for a new mobo |
| 02:03.47 | znf | fuck that |
| 02:03.53 | p3lim | never get an i7 unless you specifically need the features it has over i5 |
| 02:04.07 | znf | even a new i5 |
| 02:04.10 | znf | would be, what? |
| 02:04.15 | znf | 10% performance increase? tops? |
| 02:04.23 | Gnarfoz | 400â¬? even the i7-6700K is ony 330â¬. and you don't need that one. |
| 02:04.32 | p3lim | depends on how old your current setup is |
| 02:04.32 | Gnarfoz | how would we know, we don't know what you have now. |
| 02:05.02 | Gnarfoz | look at chaud's setup of the month posts, they kind of make sense. |
| 02:05.03 | znf | 6700k is 374.75⬠here :( |
| 02:06.01 | p3lim | bout the same here, I got mine for 410 when it came out |
| 02:06.17 | p3lim | but I was upgrading from a 2500k with a semi-defect motherboard |
| 02:06.22 | znf | I just want more FPS in WoW :( |
| 02:06.40 | Gnarfoz | doubtful that's going to make a difference. you also still haven't said what you have now. |
| 02:06.46 | p3lim | 6700k + 980ti @ 1440p, getting 50-100 fps depending on where I am |
| 02:06.56 | p3lim | wow is dogshit performance no matter the equipment |
| 02:07.00 | znf | http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-6700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4440 |
| 02:07.02 | znf | 4440 |
| 02:07.05 | Gnarfoz | try without addons first |
| 02:07.14 | p3lim | Gnarfoz: impossible |
| 02:07.20 | Gnarfoz | I meant znf |
| 02:07.24 | znf | fuck that |
| 02:07.25 | znf | addons are life |
| 02:07.32 | p3lim | ^ |
| 02:07.34 | Gnarfoz | addons are also what eats your fps if they're shit. |
| 02:07.43 | znf | I'm very much aware |
| 02:07.44 | p3lim | don't use shit addons then |
| 02:07.49 | znf | I don't plan on playing without addons |
| 02:08.00 | Gnarfoz | so: turn all of them off so you know you have shit addons or you don't |
| 02:08.03 | Torhal | Determining which are shit might go a long way toward improving FPS. |
| 02:08.06 | ls- | shit addons are love, shit addons are life :p |
| 02:08.10 | p3lim | :D |
| 02:08.17 | Gnarfoz | then you can go and figure out which ones are shit and need fixing, replacing, or culling |
| 02:08.27 | znf | if I remove suf and skada I already get (probably) 20+ extra FPS |
| 02:08.32 | p3lim | I don't even want to know which of, if any, of mine are shit performancewise |
| 02:08.33 | pompy | i got my 4790 (yes not K) for $260 |
| 02:08.35 | znf | maybe 10%+ more for WA2 |
| 02:08.43 | Gnarfoz | lots of guesswork. try. |
| 02:08.46 | znf | and maybe I can get 10 more FPS by removing whatever namepltes I have |
| 02:08.51 | ls- | i bench my addons on my MBP :p |
| 02:09.10 | p3lim | ls-: test mine and you'll get a cookie |
| 02:09.17 | znf | There's nothing to bench - user frames, raid frames, nameplates, damage meters |
| 02:09.23 | znf | those are the culprits |
| 02:09.36 | znf | anything else is irrelevant in performance |
| 02:09.39 | Gnarfoz | if you say so. |
| 02:09.45 | p3lim | tell that to my bag addon |
| 02:09.53 | znf | your bag addon doesnt' do shit in combat |
| 02:09.58 | Torhal | That's so naive. |
| 02:09.58 | Gnarfoz | you might have some tiny addon that thinks it's ok to do horribly unfiltered shit in onupdate |
| 02:09.58 | p3lim | if I open it it does |
| 02:10.08 | Torhal | The bag AddOn might be constantly computing shit for no reason. |
| 02:10.11 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: it's znf, what do you expect, he's beyond advice |
| 02:10.15 | Torhal | Heh. |
| 02:10.27 | pompy | ~emulate znf |
| 02:10.27 | purl | I MUST COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING. |
| 02:10.27 | znf | I've done this crap ages ago when I had my old Q6600 |
| 02:10.27 | ls- | tbh, my most fps crushing addon was micromenu replacement thingy :p |
| 02:10.41 | znf | I replaced everything that was crapping away at my CPU |
| 02:10.42 | p3lim | even purl knows what's up |
| 02:10.42 | znf | even MSBT |
| 02:10.43 | Gnarfoz | KLH Threat Meter used to check if you're currently fighting the AQ40 Twin Emperors... permanently. everywhere, all the time. |
| 02:10.54 | mfgmfg | ~emulate shadowed |
| 02:11.03 | mfgmfg | hm, does it only work if they are here? |
| 02:11.06 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 02:11.12 | Torhal | No, only works if defined. |
| 02:11.16 | Gnarfoz | nobody set anything for him |
| 02:11.24 | ls- | he's special |
| 02:11.25 | Torhal | ~emulate Semlar |
| 02:11.25 | purl | ACTION tries to calm torhal down. |
| 02:11.36 | pompy | lol |
| 02:11.48 | pompy | ~emulate Torhal |
| 02:11.48 | purl | Ackis, it's ALL your fault! |
| 02:11.48 | p3lim | did that one actually hardcode torhal as the target? |
| 02:11.51 | ls- | ~emulate Xuerian |
| 02:11.51 | purl | Ah crap, I broke it again. |
| 02:11.57 | Torhal | p3lim: No, it's random. |
| 02:12.01 | Gnarfoz | ~remulate |
| 02:12.01 | purl | this is my BOOMSTICK |
| 02:12.16 | Torhal | ~emulate Semlar |
| 02:12.16 | purl | ACTION tries to calm Stanzilla down. |
| 02:12.22 | p3lim | right |
| 02:12.27 | p3lim | lowercase threw me off |
| 02:12.34 | znf | like I said - the heavy addons I have are suf, compactraid frames, wa2, knp and skada |
| 02:12.45 | znf | and I'm not willing to play without any of those |
| 02:12.54 | ls- | knp? O_o |
| 02:13.09 | znf | Kesava's nameplates |
| 02:13.13 | Gnarfoz | the only nameplates worth using |
| 02:13.22 | Semlar | kui |
| 02:13.23 | ls- | i don't use any :p |
| 02:13.51 | Semlar | what about semlarplates |
| 02:14.00 | ls- | I'm either tanking, or dpsing T_T I don't need fancy nameplates... |
| 02:14.01 | Torhal | Those make you eat mushrooms. |
| 02:14.08 | ls- | I don't even use them on my tank, kek |
| 02:14.21 | p3lim | Semlar: release it then we'll talk |
| 02:14.25 | pompy | ~addon TorhalPlates |
| 02:14.33 | znf | basically, anything that hooks CLEU is raping your CPU :P |
| 02:14.42 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.02 | p3lim | image of them in action would be nice |
| 02:15.38 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.54 | p3lim | ah, you're still doing the whole crosshair thing |
| 02:16.03 | znf | I could probably remove KNP now that I have iTF |
| 02:16.04 | Semlar | not part of the nameplates |
| 02:16.52 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:17.04 | znf | gif! gif! gif! |
| 02:17.36 | znf | I still can't understand how you can play with the default userframes and cast bars |
| 02:17.38 | ls- | it's so chaotic... |
| 02:17.55 | ls- | znf: tbh, they're fine :p |
| 02:18.15 | znf | no, they're not |
| 02:18.35 | ls- | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 02:18.54 | znf | I'm not saying that you're wrong |
| 02:18.57 | znf | but you're wrong |
| 02:18.57 | Semlar | pfft, link aotc noob |
| 02:19.07 | znf | aotc? |
| 02:19.15 | Semlar | ahead of the curve |
| 02:19.51 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/OGYdKJM.png |
| 02:19.52 | znf | ? |
| 02:20.06 | Semlar | xavius |
| 02:20.14 | znf | I don't raid this expansion |
| 02:20.17 | znf | I just pug normal |
| 02:20.55 | ls- | I mainly pvp on my DK, I don't need anything fancy T_T |
| 02:21.06 | znf | like 2700 rating |
| 02:21.49 | znf | link* |
| 02:22.05 | p3lim | CM/M+ is life |
| 02:22.28 | ls- | I'm ~2.5k scrub :p |
| 02:22.43 | ls- | that's another reason why I don't need anything fancy :p |
| 02:23.39 | *** join/#wowuidev ls-_ (~ls@223.207.222.110) |
| 02:24.23 | znf | the only time I pvp is when I can get gear for pve |
| 02:24.24 | znf | :D |
| 02:24.33 | ls-_ | :D |
| 02:24.50 | znf | I think 4.x was the first expansion that secondary pvp stats weren't budgeted from the actual stats of the gear |
| 02:25.01 | znf | could be 5.x though |
| 02:25.24 | ls- | I simply like pvping as bdk :p |
| 02:25.44 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.12 | ls- | that tooltip though... |
| 02:26.37 | Ammako | there's so much room for information |
| 02:27.19 | p3lim | not with a tooltip that covers half the screen |
| 02:27.24 | Semlar | i think it needs a second tooltip |
| 02:28.17 | znf | tentacle porn |
| 02:28.23 | znf | I could feel right at home there |
| 02:28.55 | ls- | prostate massage? |
| 02:29.02 | ls- | T_T |
| 02:30.14 | znf | not today |
| 02:30.38 | ls- | I need to buy some aspirin T_T |
| 02:30.57 | p3lim | you need healthy sleep |
| 02:31.34 | *** join/#wowuidev ls-_ (~ls@183.89.166.189) |
| 02:31.55 | ls-_ | shit, and ISP keeps resetting connection... |
| 02:32.04 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/GdsQNmc.png |
| 02:32.08 | znf | that was a damn short wq |
| 02:32.48 | Semlar | defeat bears |
| 02:33.25 | Torhal | Bears need feet, Semlar. |
| 02:33.34 | Ammako | unbearable |
| 02:33.35 | Semlar | what do they have against bears |
| 02:33.41 | znf | didn't it pop today? |
| 02:33.48 | Torhal | Blizzard hates bears and loves poop. |
| 02:33.57 | ls-_ | wut? O_o |
| 02:34.09 | foxlit | no, it's been around for a few days |
| 02:34.13 | znf | was it? O.o |
| 02:34.19 | ls-_ | o_O |
| 02:34.26 | Torhal | ls-: You haven't noticed the requisite Poop Quest in every expansion since TBC? |
| 02:34.39 | znf | wait |
| 02:34.45 | znf | I don't remember ther ebeing apopp quest now |
| 02:34.47 | znf | oh, wait |
| 02:34.50 | znf | I had to find a key in poop |
| 02:34.51 | znf | nevermind |
| 02:35.00 | foxlit | the bigger question is where to find 9 bears in that dungeon. |
| 02:35.15 | znf | that's what I was thinking now |
| 02:35.16 | p3lim | 4 near the start atleast |
| 02:35.19 | foxlit | must be additional bears. |
| 02:35.20 | p3lim | 2 before 1st boss |
| 02:35.24 | foxlit | I counted like 3 on a normal clear. |
| 02:35.25 | znf | I know of 4 |
| 02:35.40 | p3lim | no idea where the other 4 are |
| 02:35.49 | Semlar | hiding |
| 02:35.50 | _Kee | I was doing DT yesterday and some huntard in party killed every single bear. Then he found we only needed 9 of them. |
| 02:35.54 | foxlit | maybe... it's different bears? |
| 02:36.08 | Semlar | i can also only think of 3 |
| 02:36.08 | Stanzilla | I just that and you just have to look at the sides of the path |
| 02:36.12 | znf | are they special bears? |
| 02:36.14 | Stanzilla | *did |
| 02:36.15 | Stanzilla | no |
| 02:36.23 | Stanzilla | just the same as before the one druid boss |
| 02:36.27 | Stanzilla | always 2 packs |
| 02:36.30 | znf | those are 2 |
| 02:36.38 | znf | then there's one on the main pack |
| 02:36.38 | _Kee | All are on the very beginning, including caves etc. you normally don't go near, tho |
| 02:36.45 | znf | then there's 1 on the shortcut |
| 02:36.46 | Semlar | there's 1 bear at the start and 2 bears before the first boss |
| 02:36.49 | znf | that's 4 I know |
| 02:36.59 | _Kee | last 2 are the 2 before 1st boss. |
| 02:37.02 | Semlar | those are the only 3 we ever fight |
| 02:37.08 | foxlit | forget bears, I want a quest to kill those ranged-jumping-cats. |
| 02:37.20 | Semlar | as a hunter, i get targeted by 100% of ranged abilities |
| 02:37.25 | Semlar | so fuck those cats |
| 02:37.36 | foxlit | better you than me, buddy. |
| 02:37.43 | ls- | cats are cute, don't kill them :< |
| 02:37.48 | foxlit | (but probably still your fault for running with a paladin) |
| 02:37.56 | _Kee | why I am in Northern Barrens? I don't remember leaving my haracter there. |
| 02:38.01 | Semlar | i feel like things prefer whoever is standing farthest away |
| 02:38.07 | _Kee | character* |
| 02:38.18 | Semlar | so i just need to start standing in front of the other ranged |
| 02:38.29 | znf | _Kee, emerald nightmare ports you out to the barrens |
| 02:38.32 | foxlit | designated bear sacrifice. |
| 02:38.32 | znf | much logic |
| 02:38.39 | foxlit | s/bear/cat/ |
| 02:38.49 | _Kee | oh that explains a lot, thanks znf |
| 02:38.54 | Semlar | crossroads is the default spawn location if it doesn't know where to put you |
| 02:39.28 | Semlar | i'm not sure why it doesn't know what graveyard to spawn you at when you're in the emerald nightmare |
| 02:39.48 | ls- | I thought it puts you to your racial capital :p |
| 02:39.49 | znf | ^ |
| 02:39.53 | foxlit | have you seen those dungeon maps? |
| 02:40.09 | znf | but yeah, barrens is the default GY for horde |
| 02:40.11 | Semlar | i like the one after xavius where there just isn't a map |
| 02:40.28 | znf | someone had fun on that map |
| 02:40.31 | znf | hiding the portal |
| 02:44.11 | pompy | http://www.cbsnews.com/news/salton-sea-earthquake-advisory-southern-california/ |
| 02:46.25 | ls- | what do you guys think about moving to Mexico? O_o getting really tired of Asia, spent too much time here T_T |
| 02:47.05 | znf | ok, fuck you, blizzard |
| 02:47.13 | znf | tank doesn't want to do bears |
| 02:47.20 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 02:48.59 | znf | and I got kicked |
| 02:49.17 | znf | because I wanted to do the world quest, and the tank didn't |
| 02:49.37 | znf | thank you fucking much, blizzard |
| 02:49.38 | znf | thank you |
| 02:50.06 | znf | and ofc, progress doesnt' save between runs |
| 02:50.27 | Iriel | I think "Moist Owlette" might be the most punful creature name i've seen in Legion |
| 02:50.46 | Stanzilla | Pridelord Meowl |
| 02:51.07 | znf | I feel like throwing the keyboard against the screen |
| 02:51.59 | Torhal | Are you trying to take Amarande's place, only using bitching and moaning instead of wild theories, znf? |
| 02:52.11 | znf | "wild theories"? |
| 02:52.20 | Torhal | Conspiracy-theory level stuff. |
| 02:52.43 | znf | I want to do the world quest. Group doesn't want to do it, because it's out of their way. |
| 02:54.27 | znf | And after waiting 15 minutes in queue, I get kicked, because tanks always get their way in LFG. |
| 02:56.46 | ls- | well... |
| 02:57.01 | ls- | lvl tank and me mvp in dungs :p |
| 02:57.08 | Stanzilla | did you pull again? |
| 02:57.18 | ls- | be* |
| 02:57.19 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.24 | znf | How's that going to help me on my main? |
| 02:57.30 | Ammako | for world quests, I'd suggest making a group for it on group finder |
| 02:57.38 | Ammako | and/or finding an already-existing one there |
| 02:57.46 | Ammako | rather than hoping random queue will give you it :p |
| 02:58.11 | znf | ofc I pulled after I said I wanted to do the quest |
| 02:58.11 | p3lim | I'm a healer, I always get my way in random dungeons |
| 02:59.17 | foxlit | pretty much the only thing that gets me to click yes on vote kicks: people demanding to get their way. |
| 02:59.35 | Stanzilla | afk people for me .D |
| 02:59.38 | p3lim | never demanding, I just ask and I get my way without any arguments |
| 02:59.53 | foxlit | Stanzilla: Surprisingly rare problem, that. |
| 02:59.58 | Stanzilla | really? |
| 03:00.01 | Stanzilla | get it all th etime |
| 03:00.01 | p3lim | afk people, people with res sickness and people that constantly ninjapull |
| 03:00.02 | foxlit | (approximately 0 observed cases in legion content) |
| 03:00.19 | znf | I didn't queue specific for the scenic vierw |
| 03:00.19 | znf | it's a world quest... |
| 03:00.19 | znf | I need it. |
| 03:00.27 | Ammako | i joined a group in lfd and someone had res sickness with several minutes left on it |
| 03:00.30 | Ammako | vote kick failed |
| 03:01.12 | znf | I'm simpathethic there |
| 03:01.14 | znf | I've been there |
| 03:01.20 | ls- | i bet that person was tank's or healer's buddy :p |
| 03:01.23 | znf | you wait in queue for 20 minutes |
| 03:01.40 | znf | and you do something stupid that makes you not being able to retrieve your corpse |
| 03:01.55 | znf | so you end up gettign rezz sickness |
| 03:02.03 | Ammako | but then you can cancel queue instead of being a burden to the group |
| 03:02.04 | znf | and a second after you chose that, you get the dungeon queue |
| 03:02.08 | znf | after 20 minutes? |
| 03:02.12 | znf | no fucking way I'm cancelling that |
| 03:02.20 | Ammako | and that's the whole of the problem |
| 03:03.00 | znf | game should either just pause the queue for you, while retaining position |
| 03:03.14 | znf | or get rid of ress sickness when matched in lfg |
| 03:03.24 | Ammako | both valid suggestions |
| 03:04.14 | foxlit | or just get rid of ress sickness period. |
| 03:04.32 | znf | or just put fucking gryphoons everywhere when dead |
| 03:05.01 | Stanzilla | fun and engaging gameplay --Blizzard 2016 |
| 03:05.06 | ls- | :D |
| 03:06.27 | ls- | it's so hot today T_T 10am and it's already 32C @_@ |
| 03:07.36 | mckenziemc | do you need a ride to the Gobi Desert? |
| 03:11.29 | ls- | nah |
| 03:11.40 | ls- | tbh, it's sorta fine there :p |
| 03:17.15 | mfgmfg | have we figured out yet the cause of 'retrieving item information' or how to work around it? really annoying when it's a keystone |
| 03:18.31 | Iriel | Ive found no solution other than waiting |
| 03:19.34 | mfgmfg | blah, deleted my cache folder and now it's chain disconnecting me |
| 03:19.45 | znf | delete all addons! |
| 03:21.47 | Xuerian | 1. Unequip all gear. 2. Die. 3. Log out. 4. Delete cache. 5. Log in |
| 03:21.48 | Xuerian | worked for me |
| 03:21.54 | Xuerian | probably wont' work for you |
| 03:28.02 | Semlar | the blue post literally just said wait 15 minutes |
| 03:29.25 | Xuerian | And that didn'tw ork |
| 03:29.30 | Torhal | Wait 15 minutes, blame Xuerian when it still doesn't work, and demand that Semlar fix it. |
| 03:29.46 | Semlar | you can't do anything to fix it |
| 03:38.31 | *** join/#wowuidev WrathTECH (~WrathTECH@215.sub-174-219-139.myvzw.com) |
| 03:40.18 | mfgmfg | here it is https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/7841 |
| 03:41.36 | Xuerian | And there's this thread, where multiple different things fix it for different people http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749185018 |
| 03:41.40 | Xuerian | none of which are reliable |
| 03:44.20 | znf | ...when you're so drunk that you've literally lost Cragshaper 5 times during his swap |
| 03:44.26 | znf | but you still manage to target him properly |
| 03:52.44 | WrathTECH | How's it going everyone? Been a while |
| 03:54.46 | znf | Can you burn more food, you fat autistic extinct bear? >_< |
| 03:57.39 | mfgmfg | hm, got a report that my addon is breaking somehow with Prat, but cannot reproduce it. http://pastebin.com/raw/THp1PnBb someone linked a keystone in party chat and the addon errored out at that point. i had the person linking it whisper me then i whispered the link to the person using prat but that worked. |
| 03:58.01 | pompy | ~emulate znf |
| 03:58.01 | purl | I MUST COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING. |
| 04:00.00 | Trela | Hey, THAT IS MY JOB. >:O |
| 04:00.05 | mckenziemc | ~factinfo znf |
| 04:00.05 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 04:00.05 | purl | znf -- created by Stanzilla <~Stan@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Stanzilla> at Mon Apr 14 21:27:05 2014 (900 days); it has been requested once, last by Stanzilla at Mon Apr 14 15:27:19 2014. |
| 04:00.32 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 04:00.41 | Stanzilla | I dont remember doing that |
| 04:01.20 | mckenziemc | purl, forget Stanzilla ever existed |
| 04:01.20 | purl | mckenziemc: i didn't have anything called 'stanzilla ever existed' to forget |
| 04:01.48 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (~RyanNL@104-180-66-29.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:26.59 | fewyn | sigh i wish drov would go away i need tarlna for my pepe whistle |
| 04:30.20 | sylvanaar | mfgmfg: why u break prat?! |
| 04:30.43 | sylvanaar | ~emulate sylvanaar |
| 04:30.43 | purl | stack overflow |
| 04:31.08 | fewyn | stop breaking prat people... what did it ever do to you?! |
| 04:31.34 | sylvanaar | ~factinfo sylvanaar |
| 04:31.34 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 04:31.34 | purl | sylvanaar -- last modified at Fri Sep 3 03:30:59 2010 by Sliker!~ponies@5ad8b95e.bb.sky.com; it has been requested 17 times, last by sylvanaar at Mon Apr 4 20:20:19 2016. |
| 04:31.44 | sylvanaar | 2010! |
| 04:33.08 | Thunder_Child | emulate and ~ are not the same |
| 04:33.13 | Thunder_Child | ~sylvanaar |
| 04:33.13 | purl | ERROR: stack overflow. JK LOL. |
| 04:33.58 | sylvanaar | so |
| 04:34.09 | sylvanaar | ~factinfo emulate sylvanaar |
| 04:34.09 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 04:34.09 | purl | emulate sylvanaar -- created by sylvaan <n=sylvanaa@unaffiliated/sylvanaar> at Thu Aug 28 10:45:21 2008 (2955 days); it has been requested 13 times, last by sylvanaar, 3m 26s ago. |
| 04:34.29 | sylvanaar | 2008! |
| 04:34.58 | mckenziemc | Thunder_Child: oh right |
| 04:35.08 | mckenziemc | ~factinfo emulate znf |
| 04:35.08 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 04:35.08 | purl | emulate znf -- created by EthanCentaurai <~EthanCent@host-92-24-190-29.ppp.as43234.net> at Sun Jan 27 13:47:56 2013 (1342 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by pompy, 37m 7s ago. |
| 04:35.41 | Stanzilla | ~znf |
| 04:35.42 | purl | znf: wait, I'm wrong |
| 04:35.52 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 04:36.08 | _Kee | ~purl |
| 04:36.08 | purl | i heard purl is female |
| 04:36.16 | *** join/#wowuidev ShadniX (dagger@p5DDFFA54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:36.22 | sylvanaar | ~Stanzilla |
| 04:36.23 | _Kee | That explains a lot |
| 04:36.30 | sylvanaar | :( |
| 04:37.31 | mckenziemc | ~emulate purl |
| 04:37.31 | purl | I shall not be ignored! |
| 04:37.50 | sylvanaar | mfgmfg: does your filter function have side-effects? |
| 04:38.51 | sylvanaar | or who knows, maybe they added yet another arg to the chat event, I haven't looked in a while |
| 04:39.57 | mckenziemc | the arduino ide just crashed :( |
| 04:40.14 | sylvanaar | I will look for args tomorrow, I don't feel like it tonight |
| 04:40.31 | sylvanaar | What is the arduino ide? |
| 04:41.05 | pompy | https://www.arduino.cc/en/Main/Software |
| 04:41.15 | mckenziemc | the IDE designed for Arduinos? |
| 04:42.12 | sylvanaar | I mean does it have any relation to anything else? |
| 04:42.24 | sylvanaar | What language does it use? |
| 04:43.00 | sylvanaar | I thought you could program for Arduino in .NET and Visual Studio - no? |
| 04:43.21 | mckenziemc | C++ |
| 04:44.19 | sylvanaar | my C++ days are older than ~emulate sylvanaar |
| 04:45.38 | Stanzilla | TheDanW is the bug where NPCs refuse to talk to you (originall the garrison mission table bug) and you have to move in and out of range and switch targets until the UI options, a server bug or a UI bug? |
| 04:46.13 | mckenziemc | err C i guess, with a custom String class i think |
| 04:46.49 | mckenziemc | nvm >.< |
| 04:48.34 | sylvanaar | mckenziemc: I really thought you could program for them in .NET |
| 04:51.59 | sylvanaar | Why does my iPhone need to go to Kentucky in order to get to California https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RZZ7IpDM/Out%20of%20the%20way |
| 04:53.05 | Ammako | it just wanted to get some chicken |
| 05:11.29 | pompy | ups hq |
| 05:21.44 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 05:21.51 | sylvanaar | like memphis for fedex |
| 05:26.55 | pompy | indeed |
| 05:27.34 | pompy | sylvanaar: by hq i meant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldport_(UPS_air_hub) |
| 05:29.38 | sylvanaar | pompy: that's pretty epic |
| 05:50.04 | pompy | Sure is. |
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| 05:53.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Shockah (~Shockah@bcz119.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 05:59.16 | VIad | I hate my life. I can't smile. moves the stitches around. I have to keep serious face 247 while watching fun things. |
| 06:01.43 | Fisker | Hey sylvanaar |
| 06:11.23 | VIad | thanks blizz http://ss.bool.no/capture_1475302276.png |
| 06:12.45 | Shockah | YES |
| 06:12.46 | Shockah | THIS |
| 06:12.49 | VIad | can I vpn to US pay for it and get the hearthstone hero on the US side? it will affect my EU side since it's same bnet account |
| 06:13.15 | Shockah | can't you VPN to France |
| 06:13.51 | VIad | http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20303032/try-twitch-prime-and-get-tyrande-whisperwind-9-30-2016 |
| 06:14.28 | Trela | I should have not redeemed the code it gave me. Since I never play Hearthstone. D: |
| 06:14.42 | VIad | you could sell it on ebay for probably a lot of money :p |
| 06:23.09 | Semlar | are there really 25 folders in altoholic |
| 06:23.35 | Semlar | alright, i just want to know how many of my items i have across my characters |
| 06:23.40 | Semlar | i don't need all this crap |
| 06:24.30 | Shockah | write your own addon |
| 06:24.34 | Shockah | i'd love you for that |
| 06:24.56 | Shockah | both Armory and Altoholic are just too complicated now |
| 06:25.08 | Shockah | and both have shitty interface |
| 06:25.15 | Shockah | i mean ugh |
| 06:25.21 | Shockah | it gets a while to gets used to it, but man... |
| 06:25.25 | Shockah | it could be so much better |
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| 06:26.18 | Semlar | https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/bagsync this looks like a thing |
| 06:27.06 | Shockah | i need 2 things really: A) items owned on all chars; B) recipes known on all chars |
| 06:27.17 | Shockah | and for them to appear on tooltips too |
| 06:28.40 | Shockah | also Semlar, was it you that made the artifact apperance tracker addon? |
| 06:28.47 | Semlar | yeah |
| 06:29.02 | Shockah | not sure what to think about it, but there's this other addon Hidden Skin Tracker |
| 06:29.08 | Shockah | which shows different values for dungeons |
| 06:29.26 | Shockah | shows 7 on AAT, but 54 on HST |
| 06:30.43 | Semlar | i guess we'll find out if you actually unlock it at 100 |
| 06:30.47 | Shockah | ^ |
| 06:32.02 | Semlar | i wonder what the different sub objectives are here |
| 06:33.00 | Semlar | maybe there's one for each dungeon |
| 06:33.10 | Shockah | -- Dungeon achievement is divided by dungeons. Total number completed is a sum of these. |
| 06:33.13 | Shockah | comment from its source code |
| 06:33.34 | Semlar | there aren't 11 dungeons are there |
| 06:33.41 | Shockah | for i=1, 10 do local _, _, _, dungeon, _ = GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(11152, i); |
| 06:33.51 | VIad | I managed to sub for amazon prime on the UK site |
| 06:34.00 | VIad | twitch connected my account to it |
| 06:34.05 | VIad | still it can't twitch prime ,_, |
| 06:34.12 | Semlar | but this has 11 objectives |
| 06:34.34 | Shockah | no idea then Semlar |
| 06:34.38 | Shockah | inb4 a new dungeon is coming |
| 06:34.43 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.50 | Shockah | could be Karazhan in 7.1? lol |
| 06:35.28 | Shockah | huh that code shows 60 for me |
| 06:35.37 | Shockah | the hell is #11 then |
| 06:35.42 | Semlar | don't ask me |
| 06:35.48 | Semlar | these don't appear to be labeled |
| 06:36.13 | Shockah | could compare it to my stats |
| 06:37.19 | Semlar | does it tell you how many times you've run each dungeon somewhere |
| 06:37.35 | Semlar | i guess it has boss kills in the stats tab |
| 06:37.48 | Shockah | Statistics -> Dungeons & Raids -> Legion -> X kills (Normal/Heroic/Mythic X) |
| 06:39.02 | VIad | anyone got a download link to the twitch prime game launcher thing? |
| 06:40.53 | Shockah | Semlar, #2 doesn't fit anything i have in stats |
| 06:41.30 | Semlar | i have 9/100 for number 2, which is pretty consistent with the rest of my dungeons |
| 06:41.36 | Semlar | but i don't know what it is |
| 06:41.36 | Shockah | i also have it at 9 |
| 06:41.45 | Shockah | inb4 it's static |
| 06:41.46 | Semlar | could be the raid |
| 06:42.27 | Shockah | i guess you'd have to run each dungeon and check |
| 06:43.03 | Semlar | withered training? |
| 06:43.42 | Shockah | i'm pretty sure i didn't do it 9 times |
| 06:43.56 | Shockah | at one point i just stopped doing it |
| 06:44.02 | Shockah | can't be bothered |
| 06:44.46 | Shockah | #3 doesn't fit anything in my stats either... |
| 06:45.12 | Shockah | UNLESS... normal doesn't count |
| 06:45.18 | Semlar | to be fair, it's only number of times you've run it with your weapon |
| 06:45.19 | Shockah | #1 and #3 would fit, but #2 wouldn't |
| 06:45.24 | Shockah | hmm |
| 06:45.28 | Shockah | you're right |
| 06:45.30 | Semlar | so the numbers wouldn't match regardless |
| 06:45.31 | Shockah | but i'm a hunter |
| 06:45.36 | Shockah | and i bought mine almost right away |
| 06:45.45 | Shockah | BM hunter |
| 06:46.13 | Shockah | i could have done 4 dungeons without it |
| 06:46.19 | Shockah | when finishing the questing zones |
| 06:47.52 | Shockah | yeah i'm not sure anymore, got Hidden Potential on the 30th of August |
| 06:48.06 | Shockah | same for That's Val'sharah Folks and Azsuna Matata :S |
| 06:48.08 | _Kee | Do you also have issue with unability to cast any spell for a few second after somebody joins the party? |
| 06:48.09 | Shockah | fuck it |
| 06:48.35 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:48.56 | Semlar | _Kee: that will happen if you're being transferred to a new server |
| 06:50.02 | _Kee | I am the party leader and whenever somebody joins my party, I am unable to cast any spell for a few seconds. |
| 06:50.26 | _Kee | It drives me crazy, 'cause I cannot refresh dots and loose a lot of dps. |
| 06:51.16 | _Kee | Sometimes I'd rather nobody joins than I loose two-three dots and gain potencially helping party member soon. |
| 06:56.07 | Shockah | i made this Semlar and sent it to some friends, told them to keep track of the values before and after a dungeon and what dungeon they did |
| 06:56.08 | Shockah | /run local a = {} for i=1,11 do a[i] = select(4, GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(11152,i)) end local s = "" for i=1,11 do s=s..a[i].." " end print("Subcriterias: "..s) |
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| 07:06.52 | VIad | Shockah: says all 0 for me |
| 07:07.12 | Semlar | have you done any dungeons with your hidden artifact appearance |
| 07:07.13 | Shockah | you don't have a hidden appearance, do you |
| 07:07.56 | Semlar | 9 9 9 7 7 12 3 4 2 4 7 |
| 07:08.05 | Shockah | 6 9 7 9 5 6 2 6 2 2 6 |
| 07:08.43 | VIad | nope. mine is a RNG drop from a daily boss. |
| 07:08.45 | Semlar | i'm guessing my 2 lowest are arcway and court of stars |
| 07:08.48 | VIad | no drops yet, killing each day. :D |
| 07:09.03 | Shockah | same here Semlar |
| 07:09.07 | Shockah | i ran both twice |
| 07:09.42 | Semlar | i should probably apologize to TheDanW for saying this was bugged |
| 07:09.47 | Shockah | D: |
| 07:10.01 | Semlar | well how was i supposed to know it had 11 different criterias |
| 07:11.28 | _Kee | 10 dungeons + raid? |
| 07:11.55 | Shockah | none of these values look like EN |
| 07:12.06 | Shockah | i killed Xavius once |
| 07:12.18 | Shockah | killed all bosses on normal twice and one once on heroic |
| 07:12.27 | Shockah | uh wait, all bosses minus Xavius and Cenarius on normal |
| 07:12.31 | Shockah | these were once |
| 07:12.50 | Shockah | so 12 normal kills, 1 heroic kill, 1 Xavius kill... nothing makes sense |
| 07:13.20 | _Kee | yeah, then this is underlated to raid propably, just a blind shot |
| 07:38.13 | Andols | Who was it that had the addon that expanded Keystone hyperlinks? |
| 07:38.32 | Semlar | https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/keystone-expander |
| 07:38.44 | Shockah | there's also Angry Keystones now |
| 07:38.52 | Semlar | sure why not |
| 07:41.56 | Semlar | after doing ursoc on heroic, doing it on normal is kind of a joke |
| 07:42.08 | VIad | I like angry :p I use his WQ map addon |
| 07:43.44 | VIad | https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/angry-world-quests |
| 07:45.17 | VIad | Ermad is here :p |
| 07:49.13 | VIad | the treasure maps are so useless. small treasure things respawn, and going for them is so not worth it AT ALL, 25 AP? |
| 07:49.18 | VIad | if it only scaled :/ |
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| 08:17.12 | VIad | ls-: when I login I get the normal popup and the toast on the side ,_, |
| 08:19.45 | Shockah | Semlar, Black Rook Hold is #1 |
| 08:21.41 | VIad | arena skirmish, game 3, 100% russians |
| 08:21.42 | VIad | wtf? |
| 08:21.55 | Shockah | that's like 50% of my games |
| 08:22.01 | VIad | my debuff isnt cleared >_> |
| 08:22.05 | VIad | between arenas |
| 08:23.28 | VIad | one of my abilities has a debuff and its not cleared like other peoples auras when I enter, fml |
| 08:27.38 | VIad | I dont get skirmish reward for queue as team lol |
| 08:27.42 | VIad | cant just chain arena >_> |
| 08:30.08 | VIad | tbh bad design, people left the old one anyways |
| 08:30.50 | VIad | 100% russians still |
| 08:34.27 | VIad | enh shaman seems OP atm |
| 08:34.31 | VIad | as tank it doesnt mater :p |
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| 08:37.58 | VIad | I think I had a bot on my team, jesus this is horrible |
| 08:38.11 | VIad | pvp related "skirmish" is horrible |
| 08:38.26 | VIad | because of the fucking ruski giveups blame cyka blyats can't carry their own weight |
| 08:38.43 | VIad | and cant say "lets kill X" and just go around wasting all their CC on stupid shit |
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| 08:44.08 | VIad | I like how in arena as tank my self heals are gone |
| 08:44.14 | VIad | so you cant even do pvp stuff AS TANK |
| 08:44.24 | VIad | you can parry the mage and dodge his spells, but self heal tanks? nope! |
| 08:44.28 | VIad | ONLY mitigate |
| 08:44.41 | VIad | removed 5v5 arena |
| 08:44.45 | VIad | mightr as well remove tank role in arena |
| 08:44.50 | VIad | why be half assed? |
| 08:45.04 | VIad | another queue enter only me ,_, |
| 08:45.14 | VIad | this has been the worst experience of my pvp life tbh :p |
| 08:45.24 | VIad | both implementation and people I met |
| 08:48.54 | VIad | oh screw you blizzard |
| 08:49.13 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1475311750.png |
| 08:49.19 | VIad | won my last game 100% sure of it AND queued with the UI |
| 08:49.21 | VIad | didnt get the box |
| 08:49.26 | VIad | fuck you |
| 08:49.57 | VIad | after suffering I figured I'd at least win ONE random arena for the box, did that eventually, not even box |
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| 09:06.54 | _Kee | orderhallcommandbar frame is part of default blizz ui? |
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| 09:07.56 | Shockah | yes |
| 09:08.56 | _Kee | Crazy, it just appeared today for me. First time saw it. Hided with MoveAnything. |
| 09:09.13 | _Kee | I've never saw it before. |
| 09:10.56 | VIad | https://gfycat.com/TestyShamelessDogfish |
| 09:11.02 | VIad | "you are not having fun within the designated area" |
| 09:17.26 | modernist | i killed things for 5 minutes before i realised the progress bar wasnt going up because i wasnt in that little circle |
| 09:17.55 | modernist | also helpful that it doesnt show as soon as you leave it! |
| 09:19.14 | VIad | same mobs and area, but NOT WITHIN ZE DESIGNATED ZONE |
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| 09:52.15 | modernist | frost mage feels like it got forgotten about with the resource updates |
| 09:53.30 | modernist | both fingers of frost and icicle are reasonable candidates for tracking as resources, but instead both are as half-baked as the rest of the spec atm |
| 09:53.38 | VIad | wtf game DCed me then spooled me back in time _>> |
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| 10:12.07 | aprok | does anyone know why Texture:SetTexture(red, green, blue ) is not working? if i define a color for a texture in the xml its working, but if i do it in lua its not. |
| 10:12.28 | VIad | aprok: because textures are now referenced by fileIDs |
| 10:12.31 | VIad | SetColorTexture is the new api |
| 10:13.03 | aprok | ah, thx a lot |
| 10:13.28 | aprok | so the api references i am using are not up to date |
| 10:14.14 | VIad | wowpedia is usually okay, and wowprogramming |
| 10:14.32 | VIad | I often just see how blizz use their APIs in their code |
| 10:15.09 | aprok | i used wowprogramming, they dont list setcolortexture |
| 10:15.23 | modernist | wowprogramming isnt great for anything 6.0+ |
| 10:15.38 | modernist | honestly, the only decent spot in] |
| 10:15.52 | aprok | ok, good to know |
| 10:15.54 | Semlar | VIad: the chance for getting a box is like 20% |
| 10:16.05 | modernist | oops, the only decent spot to keep up is wowinterface forum discussions and here |
| 10:16.09 | VIad | didn't appear like that in the tooltip, Semlar |
| 10:16.11 | Semlar | also the box contains like a potion or something |
| 10:16.20 | VIad | it says "reward for winning" |
| 10:16.27 | VIad | not "might drop upon winning" |
| 10:16.32 | Semlar | the description is Armor, weapons, artifact power, OR a strongbox of supplies |
| 10:16.42 | VIad | pre-legion the first random box was always given when you won, then you had no more boxes for the day |
| 10:16.55 | VIad | why do they protray it as a box? |
| 10:16.59 | VIad | portray* |
| 10:17.13 | Semlar | they have to show something |
| 10:17.26 | Semlar | the rewards from doing skirmishes suuuuuuck |
| 10:17.45 | Semlar | actually in general, pvping feels pretty unrewarding |
| 10:17.47 | VIad | Reward for winning: # Honor \r\n\r\n Might also reward: <list of stuff, one entry per row> |
| 10:17.51 | VIad | pvping is horrible. |
| 10:17.57 | VIad | mostly the russians |
| 10:18.01 | VIad | 100% russians todayu |
| 10:18.13 | Semlar | losing is really bad, you get like 9g |
| 10:18.19 | VIad | and tanks that rely on self heals are stomped |
| 10:18.19 | Semlar | winning you get 9g and maybe something else |
| 10:18.25 | Semlar | like 60 ap |
| 10:18.39 | VIad | hopefully the rated arena is better rewarded |
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| 10:18.52 | Semlar | but you can complete a skirmish every like 2 minutes |
| 10:19.00 | Semlar | which is probably how they justify giving you nothing |
| 10:19.33 | Semlar | i think even the honor reward is pretty low |
| 10:19.49 | Semlar | i'm not sure how much you get |
| 10:19.56 | VIad | pvp hasnt gotten any love for expansions now |
| 10:20.02 | VIad | in terms of new arenas or bg games |
| 10:20.21 | Semlar | but they also can't just hand out gear every time you do a match |
| 10:20.49 | Semlar | i'm not sure how pvp gear is going to scale compared to pve gear, because it's the same gear |
| 10:21.24 | Semlar | and if it just goes off your item level, you can't have raiders scaling higher than people who do nothing but pvp |
| 10:23.45 | VIad | feels like the distinct pvp/pve split, but same gear kind of thing we got now |
| 10:24.01 | VIad | needs more pvp activities, new bg game modes maybe? |
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| 10:26.33 | sticklord_ | this is driving me crazy, anyone know what the 2nd argument to UnitSelectionColor() is? |
| 10:27.11 | Semlar | the second argument? |
| 10:27.28 | Semlar | why would it take 2 arguments |
| 10:27.33 | sticklord_ | input then |
| 10:27.43 | sticklord_ | UnitSelectionColor(frame.unit, frame.optionTable.colorHealthWithExtendedColors) |
| 10:28.24 | sticklord_ | That's in the CompactUnitFrame file |
| 10:28.34 | Semlar | class colors or something |
| 10:29.49 | sticklord_ | ah, didn't test on players |
| 10:30.01 | sticklord_ | ill try some more |
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| 10:44.01 | sticklord_ | It gives a lighter blue color instead of pure blue, else its the same it looks like. |
| 10:44.36 | sticklord_ | Guess thats what extended colors mean |
| 10:47.45 | VIad | LOL YOU CAN'T RIFT CANNON ELITE QUESTS |
| 10:47.48 | VIad | WTF blizzard |
| 10:48.08 | VIad | 3 day cooldown ability you research and you can't even use it on the dungeon or world boss thingswtf |
| 10:48.19 | VIad | I feel like there had to be a LONGER disclamer when I researched it |
| 10:48.32 | VIad | it's a complete trash researchable thing |
| 10:48.37 | VIad | literally pointless to be ingame |
| 10:49.26 | VIad | "Allows you to place a work order for the Empowered Rift Core, used to unleash ther wrath of your order to instantly complete a World Quest on your map once every 3 days." |
| 10:49.36 | VIad | World Quest != world quests that are elite bordered apparently |
| 10:49.56 | VIad | this game is like such troll |
| 10:50.14 | g0urra | lol it's literal garbage that one |
| 10:50.41 | VIad | next thing is that the "Allows you to place work orders for Champion armaments or equipment in exchange for Order Resources." caps at the green items ONLY but it doesnt say anywhere |
| 10:50.50 | VIad | blizzard really dropped the ball on this shithole class hall |
| 10:51.04 | g0urra | really? I've gotten blue armaments |
| 10:51.19 | VIad | I would not be surprised if there was a hidden bullshit restriction |
| 10:51.19 | g0urra | even epic |
| 10:51.22 | VIad | like the rift core, g0urra |
| 10:51.36 | VIad | "instantly complete World Quest" should have ten fucking *** appended on the word |
| 10:51.47 | VIad | with a ton of "can't be used for" descriptions below |
| 10:51.48 | g0urra | "caps at the green items" |
| 10:52.33 | VIad | I just feel tricked |
| 10:52.42 | VIad | I wanted to use it for the dungeon quests that I am lazy todo |
| 10:53.05 | VIad | but it can't be even used for that so blizz might as well just remove the tier and have one option on it |
| 10:53.15 | VIad | today is NOT a good day for me |
| 10:53.19 | VIad | today I am znf mode |
| 10:54.27 | g0urra | the one where you make work orders for armaments is great until you've geared up your followers to max |
| 10:54.53 | VIad | you misunderstand |
| 10:55.05 | VIad | the ingame tooltip description says NOTHING about what WQ I CAN'T complete with the 3 day CD thing |
| 10:55.13 | VIad | its a troll upgrade |
| 10:55.35 | g0urra | yeah you've already said that. |
| 10:55.38 | VIad | yes |
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| 10:55.53 | VIad | I just said it would be AS IF the gear thing had a hidden clause where it only gave GREEN items |
| 10:55.59 | VIad | but they NEVER write about it |
| 10:56.01 | g0urra | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:56.08 | VIad | thats why I am angry atm |
| 10:56.24 | VIad | wasted a week of research on something I thought would be more useful than this shit |
| 10:56.43 | VIad | the free coin thing is pointless as well, but if I could use the 3 day thing to finish ANY WQ it would be worth it for me |
| 10:56.49 | VIad | because I have no problems with gold or resources |
| 10:57.05 | VIad | but now that its utter bullshit ability I have to spend a week getting the other one |
| 10:57.11 | g0urra | what's the option to the coin? |
| 10:57.23 | VIad | just 1 free |
| 10:57.28 | VIad | so you buy 2 instead of 3 |
| 10:57.35 | g0urra | I mean the alternative |
| 10:58.02 | VIad | rift cannon thing for me |
| 10:58.07 | VIad | the useless shit I told you about |
| 10:58.21 | VIad | useless shit vs useless shit that at least saves 1k gold a week |
| 10:58.27 | g0urra | oh right |
| 10:58.28 | VIad | or 2k gold I guess |
| 10:58.47 | VIad | I will write a ticket and ask for them to reimburst me the time spent researching |
| 10:58.52 | VIad | because of false advertising on the upgrade |
| 10:58.58 | VIad | see what the GM saysd |
| 10:59.09 | VIad | "oh no sorry you should have wowheaded to see the restrictions, you should have known" |
| 10:59.15 | g0urra | I have 60k resources so that doesn't bother me |
| 10:59.32 | g0urra | after starting the +1 legendary upgrade |
| 10:59.32 | VIad | I'd rather have the free coin now that I know I can only do the trivial WQ with the 3 day cooldown shit |
| 11:04.09 | g0urra | if I didn't farm for more resources my resources would last for 20 coins instead of 10 |
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| 11:34.46 | VIad | ticket written, let's say what the response will be http://ss.bool.no/capture_1475321660.png |
| 11:35.11 | VIad | and yes I should have picked the gear thing, there are too few missions for gear upgrades ,_, |
| 11:36.17 | PhatsoTGT | Vlad is like the "I DO NOT CONSENT TO YOUR ILLEGAL SEARCH" Guy in wow |
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| 11:41.47 | Industrial | Hi. |
| 11:42.05 | Industrial | How do I get my second artifact |
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| 11:42.23 | Industrial | I picked wrong and went MM hunter, while I wantedBM I think |
| 11:45.24 | VIad | amazing fun, guys! https://gfycat.com/ImmenseKeenHackee |
| 11:45.48 | VIad | why the fuck can't I delete my own shit? |
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| 12:10.40 | PhatsoTGT | http://i.imgur.com/o5iamgu.jpg |
| 12:12.28 | PhatsoTGT | i have a align function that SetPoints depending if i say X, Y or X&Y with the latter setting all 4 points to the points of another frame i specify |
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| 12:14.57 | PhatsoTGT | why isnt that working with this https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6b37a57e7307f4b1f4f26287dd774906 |
| 12:17.46 | modernist | Industrial: you get the option at level 102 |
| 12:22.11 | modernist | phatso: only posting half your code doesnt exactly help |
| 12:23.25 | modernist | it could be that youre reparenting a frame that updates its position after it loads, it could be that youre not doing ClearAllPoints() first, it could be a typo, who knows |
| 12:25.32 | modernist | also i'd probably put your skin function above the "mojoize" function, but i dunno if that would necessarily cause it not to run |
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| 12:34.07 | Semlar | there's nothing wrong with leveling as MM |
| 12:34.30 | Semlar | just don't spec into lone wolf and pick up black arrow |
| 12:36.43 | Semlar | set your pet to tanky spec and you can solo pretty much anything |
| 12:42.59 | PhatsoTGT | oh sure |
| 12:43.00 | PhatsoTGT | wait |
| 12:44.01 | PhatsoTGT | tis the file with the align functionhttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/925d1b21b27fab8a2a1a524412c74292 |
| 12:44.22 | PhatsoTGT | was watching Karazhan stuff |
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| 12:46.27 | PhatsoTGT | ClearAllPoints isnt there but doesnt help |
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| 14:10.07 | VIad | hmm. seems people cheated on ursoc mythic by standing near the wall, so he never charged anyone :P |
| 14:10.12 | VIad | uberhax |
| 14:11.37 | nevcairiel | doesnt sound much like cheating |
| 14:11.42 | nevcairiel | weird that he wouldnt charge then tho |
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| 14:18.43 | VIad | pathing issues |
| 14:18.51 | VIad | so aborts the charge on that person :d |
| 14:19.08 | VIad | one of those clever use of game mechanics |
| 14:27.36 | nebula | sounds more on the exploit side of things |
| 14:27.58 | VIad | blizz should code better path finding |
| 14:28.04 | VIad | and if no path? just apply dmg to the guy :D |
| 14:28.12 | VIad | like as if it had connected at max dmg |
| 14:28.14 | VIad | for good measure |
| 14:28.18 | nebula | or just despawn |
| 14:29.40 | Gnarfoz | VIad: why does it seem like that? got any links? |
| 14:29.52 | VIad | mmochamp thread and videos |
| 14:30.19 | VIad | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2082098-Ursoc-Mythic-Cheese-Please-fix-this-Blizz |
| 14:32.51 | PhatsoTGT | hey is there a quick and easy way to move a weakaura in combat? |
| 14:32.56 | PhatsoTGT | not just hide it |
| 14:33.05 | VIad | wa is bad at "if else" behavior |
| 14:33.22 | VIad | often I have several auras to appear in different situations of the same thing ,_, |
| 14:43.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Snowkrim (~Snowkrim@AMontsouris-652-1-129-54.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:46.39 | ls- | I'll just leave it here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X_AZhOrdos |
| 14:47.46 | PhatsoTGT | man i would really like to use DBM but holy hell the thought that the bars might be 2 pixels off centers triggers me beyond imagination |
| 14:48.09 | PhatsoTGT | whats wrong with Text Input for Position`` |
| 14:48.51 | VIad | ls-: your toasts appear fine, but the game toasts appear as well sometimes after entering the world :d |
| 14:48.59 | VIad | noticed that with order hall missions |
| 14:49.19 | ls- | O_o |
| 14:50.31 | VIad | btw https://www.twitch.tv/warcraft for title reward from twitch tournament |
| 14:50.39 | VIad | also source is 720p :'( |
| 14:50.51 | VIad | dota has 1080p as source, probably 2k next year |
| 14:50.53 | znf | can I close it after 5 seconds? |
| 14:51.09 | VIad | dunno. they said you get the title when event concludes. probably a scan thing they do. |
| 14:51.38 | VIad | I am going to buy several liters of soup since I can't chew with stitches in my mouth, so leaving it on and going to check some games with my soup after ;d |
| 14:53.39 | nebula | if it's anything like hots, they scan like every 15min or so |
| 14:53.48 | ls- | VIad: thing is, I unregister almost all events for AlertFrame at PLAYER_LOGIN... O_o |
| 14:53.52 | znf | so I have to watch that crap for 15 mintues? |
| 14:53.53 | znf | fuck |
| 14:55.43 | znf | so, it's saturday |
| 14:55.47 | znf | to the premade finder to get rejected! |
| 14:57.53 | PhatsoTGT | Vlad its 5Mbit Bitrate |
| 14:57.55 | Andols | Rejected to what? |
| 14:58.07 | PhatsoTGT | its gonna look shite no matter what resolution you force it on |
| 14:58.19 | znf | Andols, Mythic+ groups, ofc |
| 15:02.09 | VIad | ls-: maybe some code RegisterEvent again? :( |
| 15:02.16 | VIad | I dont know I just tolds you what I saw :p |
| 15:02.26 | VIad | to me looked like new behavior |
| 15:02.32 | ls- | yeah, I'll double check it |
| 15:03.14 | Snowkrim | Hi, anyone here playing Kazzak - Horde and wanna help me fix an outdated AddOn? I estimate 1 hour of work, I'll pay 100k gold upfront if anyone's interested/bored. |
| 15:03.44 | VIad | is the addon secret? |
| 15:03.49 | Snowkrim | Secret as in? :D |
| 15:03.59 | VIad | I am curious what addon it is :p |
| 15:04.10 | Snowkrim | ohh |
| 15:05.06 | Snowkrim | http://pastebin.com/cE0ciT5w |
| 15:05.11 | Snowkrim | @ VIad |
| 15:06.51 | Snowkrim | not sure how realistic it would be to fix that to work with Legion but seems doable |
| 15:06.56 | VIad | looks like it only shows you how many ice shards you have? :p |
| 15:07.15 | Snowkrim | it's meant to be icicle dmg tracker |
| 15:08.18 | Snowkrim | MoP version : http://pastebin.com/5BWSDXeh |
| 15:08.39 | VIad | what happened to Wardz? :po |
| 15:09.01 | Snowkrim | Died or somethin :< |
| 15:09.03 | Snowkrim | Quit WoW |
| 15:09.17 | Snowkrim | http://pastebin.com/6e5L3wVZ another addon that does a similar thing, outdated for legion (6.2.2 patch last update) |
| 15:10.28 | VIad | https://wow.curseforge.com/addons/ice/ |
| 15:10.35 | Snowkrim | Basically need something that tracks individual stored icicle damage and total stored damage (and works with Black Ice artifact trait http://www.wowhead.com/spell=195615/black-ice) |
| 15:10.47 | Snowkrim | yeah that's the wardz addon |
| 15:11.25 | VIad | brb soup time! |
| 15:11.29 | Snowkrim | I think there's not much demands for this type of addon because it's relatively useless for pve (glacial spike is useless for pve and thermal void spec doesn't care about tracking icicles) |
| 15:11.36 | Snowkrim | but for pvp it would be insane having that knowledge |
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| 15:13.06 | Snowkrim | I could consider paying some actual money for it too, if you think it's doable, depending how much you want and how much time you'd take |
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| 15:23.27 | aprok | if i have a single debuf on a target shouldnt UnitDebuff("target",1) be the same as UnitAura("target",1) ? |
| 15:23.53 | aprok | UnitDebuff works as expected but UnitAura returns nothing |
| 15:24.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Stanzilla (~Stanzilla@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Stanzilla) |
| 15:26.49 | nebula | you need "HARMFUL" as a filter for aura |
| 15:26.56 | nebula | debuff does it for you |
| 15:27.26 | aprok | ah ok, thx |
| 15:28.24 | aprok | i thought it would return both |
| 15:28.45 | nebula | it's helpful by default |
| 15:30.10 | znf | I'm on kazzak horde |
| 15:30.30 | Snowkrim | znf, are you responding to me? |
| 15:30.45 | znf | ...like, only mad people play kazzak alliance anyway |
| 15:30.52 | Snowkrim | true :D |
| 15:31.05 | Snowkrim | are you good with Lua/wow addons? wanna make 100k gold? |
| 15:31.27 | Snowkrim | check the stuff I linked, you think you could update that for legion? I'd pay you 100k gold upfront |
| 15:34.11 | znf | I don't have a mage to test stuff |
| 15:36.13 | Andols | I did play Alliance Kazzak for a litte while |
| 15:36.38 | Andols | Transfered away around MoP release |
| 15:36.54 | modernist | snowkrim, i can do some testing in a bit |
| 15:36.55 | Andols | a /who gave 25 alliance online on the entire server :P |
| 15:37.18 | Snowkrim | modernist: oh cool :D |
| 15:37.24 | modernist | im actually working on frost mage tracking for icicles + fof atm anyway |
| 15:37.28 | Snowkrim | ooo |
| 15:37.51 | Snowkrim | it would be so insane to have icicle tracker for pvp |
| 15:37.56 | Snowkrim | atm frost is really fotm |
| 15:38.08 | Snowkrim | and glacial spike does dmg based on icicles as you know it |
| 15:38.28 | Snowkrim | but i'm wondering if there's any way to actually tell the addon when this procd: http://www.wowhead.com/spell=195615/black-ice |
| 15:38.32 | Snowkrim | otherwise it will never be accurate. |
| 15:38.43 | Snowkrim | i'm testing atm if there's any differences in the icicle spell ID |
| 15:38.56 | znf | If you get an aura, then you can track it |
| 15:39.18 | Snowkrim | yes you do get an aura |
| 15:39.30 | modernist | yeah you do, and yeah you can track it |
| 15:39.34 | Snowkrim | but tracking the count isn't the problematic bit |
| 15:39.37 | Snowkrim | the damage is I think |
| 15:39.47 | Snowkrim | as far as I know there's no API to access the stored icicle damage |
| 15:40.07 | Snowkrim | so you kind of have to go by combat log and count the frostbolt dmg I assume |
| 15:40.45 | modernist | nope, you could only watch a few and then begin to estimate the mean damage i think. or else do some equations if you knew how it all fit together |
| 15:41.24 | Snowkrim | but then it would not be accurate in pvp as your frostbolt deals very varying damage based on target defenses (many cds for dmg reduc%) |
| 15:41.48 | modernist | right |
| 15:42.14 | Snowkrim | i guess in theory you could probably include all the possible modifiers that would reduce or increase frostbolt damage, or just track every frostbolt individually |
| 15:42.52 | Snowkrim | maybe there's some kind of predetermined way to tell how much damage your spells will do on any given target at any given time, then you wouldn't need to track every frostbolt |
| 15:45.08 | znf | does anyone actually know how to track that damage? |
| 15:47.37 | Snowkrim | well you can find traces on how it's done here: http://pastebin.com/cE0ciT5w -- http://pastebin.com/5BWSDXeh -- http://pastebin.com/6e5L3wVZ |
| 15:47.56 | Snowkrim | it's not like it hasn't been done before, just hasn't been updated for Legion as there's low demand for it (for PvE it's relatively useless) |
| 15:48.22 | znf | I don't understand the reason for PvP, either :D |
| 15:48.37 | Snowkrim | to determine dmg of glacial spike |
| 15:48.48 | znf | why? :D |
| 15:48.48 | Snowkrim | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=199786/glacial-spike |
| 15:49.00 | znf | I seriously don't pvp, so I've no idea why you would need that |
| 15:49.04 | Snowkrim | because some glacial spike can do up to 1.4m dmg |
| 15:49.08 | Snowkrim | while some only do 500k~ |
| 15:49.12 | Snowkrim | so it's huge to know exactly |
| 15:49.27 | Snowkrim | there's a lot of modifiers that change how much it will be: http://www.wowhead.com/spell=198144/ice-form |
| 15:49.35 | Snowkrim | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=195615/black-ice |
| 15:49.36 | znf | would it stop you from casting that spell? |
| 15:50.15 | Snowkrim | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=195448/chilled-to-the-core |
| 15:50.35 | Snowkrim | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=12982/shatter |
| 15:50.47 | Snowkrim | if you can tell your team, yeah I have a 1.5m glacial spike stored, it changes a lot |
| 15:50.53 | Snowkrim | you can setup/prep for it |
| 15:50.56 | Snowkrim | get cross cc etc |
| 15:51.02 | Snowkrim | it's huge compared to 500k glacial spike |
| 15:51.29 | Snowkrim | and it can really vary a lot based on those modifiers i linked, so it's extremely hard to scope without an addon assisting :p |
| 15:52.17 | Snowkrim | the spell itself is a looong cast so it takes setup to pull it off in arena, it can change your entire plan if you know the next one will literally 100-0% someone |
| 15:52.33 | VIad | at some point isnt it easier to scan the tooltip? it surely says how much dmg the spell will do :P |
| 15:52.42 | Snowkrim | that's the thing, it doesn't ;< |
| 15:52.45 | Snowkrim | unless it's hidden |
| 15:53.14 | modernist | "deals x damage + the damage stored in your icicles" |
| 15:53.25 | modernist | the damage in the icicles is what changes based on modifiers i think |
| 15:53.32 | modernist | its purposefully obtuse |
| 15:54.04 | Snowkrim | http://imgur.com/y9U25Zw |
| 15:54.08 | Snowkrim | tooltip of the buff itself |
| 15:54.25 | Snowkrim | 205473 aura ID |
| 15:54.36 | VIad | you sure the icon itself doesnt show the stack count? |
| 15:54.43 | Snowkrim | it does |
| 15:54.48 | VIad | ,_, |
| 15:55.03 | Snowkrim | but the stack count doesn't really matter :P it's about the damage of each particular stored icicle |
| 15:55.20 | VIad | but how can you track the amount of dmg per icicle? |
| 15:55.27 | VIad | ah |
| 15:55.28 | modernist | retroactively through the combatlog |
| 15:55.29 | Snowkrim | read frostbolt damage from combat log |
| 15:55.29 | VIad | frostbolt? |
| 15:55.37 | Snowkrim | i assume that's how they've done it in the past addons |
| 15:56.08 | Snowkrim | When you damage enemies with Frostbolt, 18.0% of the damage done is stored as an Icicle for 1 min. |
| 15:56.15 | Snowkrim | where the percentage scales up/down with your Mastery rating |
| 15:56.38 | VIad | is frostbolt you do the ONLY source of icicles? |
| 15:56.42 | Snowkrim | yep |
| 15:56.43 | modernist | yes |
| 15:56.44 | VIad | good |
| 15:56.56 | VIad | and EACH frostbolt adds icicles? |
| 15:56.59 | VIad | as long it did dmg |
| 15:56.59 | Snowkrim | yep |
| 15:57.04 | Snowkrim | even if it doesn't do dmg |
| 15:57.06 | VIad | what about absorbs? |
| 15:57.06 | VIad | ah ok |
| 15:57.07 | Snowkrim | if the cast succeed |
| 15:57.09 | Snowkrim | it adds icicle :D |
| 15:57.14 | VIad | immune? |
| 15:57.18 | Snowkrim | if you frostbolt a rogue on cloak of shadows you still get proc |
| 15:57.20 | Snowkrim | same with divine shield |
| 15:57.22 | modernist | immune; no |
| 15:57.23 | VIad | oh |
| 15:57.25 | VIad | problem then |
| 15:57.27 | modernist | oh |
| 15:57.28 | VIad | how do you track the dmg |
| 15:57.32 | VIad | of immune CLEU? :p |
| 15:57.40 | Snowkrim | cause combat log says frostbolt did 0 damage or was immuned |
| 15:57.43 | VIad | could tooltip scan |
| 15:57.43 | Snowkrim | pretty sure it does at least |
| 15:57.50 | VIad | hmm maybe not |
| 15:58.28 | Snowkrim | i think the biggest problem is this |
| 15:58.29 | Snowkrim | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=195615/black-ice |
| 15:58.39 | Snowkrim | seems like no way to tell it procd |
| 15:58.41 | VIad | why is that a problem? |
| 15:58.43 | Snowkrim | other than the animation of the icicle |
| 15:58.47 | VIad | aha |
| 15:58.51 | Snowkrim | no aura, no spell id changes, no combat log, nothin |
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| 15:59.09 | Snowkrim | all you get is shadowy particle effect on the icicle that gets affected :D |
| 15:59.13 | Snowkrim | and it has like 50% proc chance iirc |
| 15:59.36 | Snowkrim | so if you can't track that then there's no point to even try making it work cause it will never be accurate |
| 15:59.56 | Snowkrim | idk maybe some kind of event does happen in the API when it procs |
| 16:00.10 | Snowkrim | surely has to be somethin |
| 16:01.10 | znf | In case you are wondering, the Glacial Spike ability does not work with this. Each Icicle that does the Black Ice thing turns a dark color and does double damage -1 ( so a multiple of 1.9999 I think they cut it off at 4 places). Oh, all buffs appear to affect these too, and that's huge! |
| 16:01.11 | znf | :P |
| 16:01.14 | Snowkrim | na that's bs |
| 16:01.17 | Snowkrim | it 100% works |
| 16:01.20 | Snowkrim | has been tested |
| 16:01.27 | Snowkrim | google black ice + glacial spike |
| 16:01.38 | Gnarfoz | why do action buttons not update to the correct spell for me :( |
| 16:01.39 | modernist | then google chemtrails |
| 16:01.39 | Snowkrim | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/506ilh/question_about_black_ice_and_glacial_spike/ |
| 16:02.03 | Snowkrim | but it's easy to test on a dummy anyway |
| 16:02.09 | modernist | yeah im testing it now |
| 16:02.24 | VIad | if only blizz added on the tooltip of Icicles the DMG stored |
| 16:02.24 | VIad | xd |
| 16:02.37 | Snowkrim | i think they didn't wanna do that on purpose like modernist said it's kind of obscure on purpose |
| 16:02.49 | Snowkrim | but still weird |
| 16:02.52 | VIad | not obscure enough to be assumed they want to keep it "hidden" |
| 16:02.52 | Snowkrim | when this whole mechanic came out |
| 16:02.57 | Snowkrim | there wasn't even a buff |
| 16:02.57 | Snowkrim | for icicles |
| 16:03.01 | Snowkrim | you would just have to watch above ur char head lol |
| 16:03.24 | Snowkrim | they added the icicles mop start iirc and back then there was no way to tell how many you had or how long they'd last other than animation above ur char |
| 16:03.25 | modernist | like i said earlier today, it feels like blizzard forgot about frost mages when they added all these new resources |
| 16:03.31 | Snowkrim | haha yea |
| 16:03.37 | Snowkrim | i'd even say they should have some kind of power bar |
| 16:03.41 | Snowkrim | for icicle dmg potential or somethin |
| 16:03.48 | Snowkrim | kinda like shadow priest |
| 16:04.09 | VIad | I missed frostbolt, got buff |
| 16:04.12 | VIad | how the F do I track that? |
| 16:04.12 | VIad | :p |
| 16:04.20 | Snowkrim | doesn't combat log state missed frost bolts? |
| 16:04.28 | VIad | yes but not the damage it would have done |
| 16:04.35 | VIad | it's not like "your frostbolt missed 129382 dmg" |
| 16:04.43 | Snowkrim | but who cares? if it misses it adds 0 dmg to icicle |
| 16:04.53 | VIad | I got 1 icicle on my head |
| 16:04.57 | Snowkrim | yes for 0 damage :D |
| 16:04.57 | VIad | that had 0 dmg on it? ;d |
| 16:05.00 | VIad | lol |
| 16:05.04 | VIad | we are just assuming arent we? |
| 16:05.04 | Snowkrim | ahah |
| 16:05.06 | VIad | let me check |
| 16:05.12 | Snowkrim | actually to be honest i am just assuming |
| 16:05.18 | Snowkrim | but i really doubt it stacks the dmg |
| 16:05.21 | VIad | what spell do I use to unleash the icicles? |
| 16:05.26 | Snowkrim | glacial spike |
| 16:05.28 | znf | I think your addon is just using an old order of CLEU |
| 16:05.29 | Snowkrim | take the last talent |
| 16:05.38 | VIad | I dont have that |
| 16:05.39 | VIad | ah |
| 16:05.41 | Snowkrim | then use ice lance |
| 16:05.47 | Snowkrim | does the same thing before you get glacial spike |
| 16:06.20 | modernist | @snowkrim: http://i.pi.gy/0KG0.png |
| 16:06.43 | Snowkrim | whats the snowflakes do? :D |
| 16:06.49 | modernist | fingers of frost stacks |
| 16:07.08 | Snowkrim | oh right lol |
| 16:07.52 | Snowkrim | http://i.imgur.com/aiaPAJu.png |
| 16:07.56 | Snowkrim | the number on glacial spike |
| 16:07.59 | Snowkrim | is the icicle count |
| 16:08.06 | Snowkrim | im just using weakauras for it atm |
| 16:08.09 | Snowkrim | but obviously no dmg tracking |
| 16:08.31 | VIad | I did 32529 dmg on a dummy with 5 frostbolt misses |
| 16:08.43 | VIad | so obviously the dmg "what if" counts |
| 16:08.50 | Snowkrim | wasn't that just the ice lance dmg itself? |
| 16:08.59 | VIad | I used glacial spike |
| 16:09.04 | VIad | ah yues |
| 16:09.05 | Snowkrim | yes but it does damage by default |
| 16:09.06 | VIad | it seems |
| 16:09.09 | Snowkrim | and adds more for icicles |
| 16:09.12 | znf | why did it never tick to me that you can use the lvl100 trial to test addons on classes? :D |
| 16:09.13 | VIad | so I could use it with no icicle dmg, hehe |
| 16:09.23 | Snowkrim | yep |
| 16:09.32 | Snowkrim | znf: oh yeeah that's a good idea :D |
| 16:09.55 | Snowkrim | dealing (750% of Spell power) damage plus the damage stored in your Icicles |
| 16:09.58 | Snowkrim | glacial spike tooltip :P |
| 16:10.19 | Snowkrim | just spec out of glacial spike, use ice lance to release them |
| 16:10.23 | Snowkrim | then you will see individual icicle damage |
| 16:10.31 | Snowkrim | but I'm pretty sure you get nothing for misses/immunes, other than stack itself |
| 16:10.37 | VIad | seems like so yes |
| 16:10.44 | VIad | kind of lame |
| 16:10.58 | VIad | if you did frostbolt again the lowest dmg one should be swapped |
| 16:11.11 | VIad | so if you knew you had a hit on immunity you could cast an extra one before unleashing hell |
| 16:11.16 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (~stolenleg@unaffiliated/stolenlegacy) |
| 16:11.48 | Snowkrim | ya :P |
| 16:12.00 | VIad | 173 AH mails pending |
| 16:12.15 | VIad | most of them are single items ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) znf |
| 16:12.26 | znf | >_< |
| 16:12.40 | Snowkrim | https://youtu.be/KvUGSftBzXQ?t=166 |
| 16:12.46 | Snowkrim | check that out (with timestamp) |
| 16:12.51 | Snowkrim | lol |
| 16:12.56 | Snowkrim | rest in peace monk |
| 16:13.00 | VIad | is that your stream, Snowkrim? |
| 16:13.03 | Snowkrim | nah :D |
| 16:13.07 | Snowkrim | some dude I know |
| 16:13.20 | VIad | where is the pvp templates? |
| 16:13.31 | VIad | doesnt sound fun to get oneshot :p |
| 16:13.36 | Snowkrim | Talk to blizzard :D |
| 16:14.01 | VIad | figured their template system would allow for more fair pvp games :p |
| 16:14.08 | VIad | less cheesy 100-0 bursts |
| 16:14.15 | Snowkrim | https://twitter.com/holinka/status/781906494400831488 |
| 16:14.19 | Snowkrim | Lead PVP designer tweet |
| 16:14.30 | Snowkrim | after a player of a team in LAN tournament (Regionals) disconnected 2 times in the same game |
| 16:14.38 | Snowkrim | because wow was crashing on their shitty computers :) |
| 16:15.03 | Snowkrim | Minpojke's wow crashed twice in the game, he got killed while running against a wall, and that made the cross-kills happen |
| 16:15.06 | Snowkrim | and he tweets this :D |
| 16:15.10 | VIad | watching the twitch stream, world of talkcraft... |
| 16:15.18 | Hazal | Would it be possible to makle something like the addon named EnemyGrid where it's only for units with certain names? |
| 16:15.23 | Snowkrim | ye its frikkin horrible |
| 16:15.27 | Snowkrim | the production value is really bad |
| 16:15.32 | Snowkrim | 1 hour breaks between games.. |
| 16:15.37 | VIad | I actually want to watch some games to see if I like it :p |
| 16:15.43 | Snowkrim | you won't the spectator UI is terrible |
| 16:15.48 | Snowkrim | and the camera work is too |
| 16:15.50 | znf | Hazal, no |
| 16:18.07 | znf | looking at that icicle addon |
| 16:18.13 | znf | it doesn't even seem to be properly hooking CLEU |
| 16:19.40 | znf | added a debug print, never fires |
| 16:20.21 | Snowkrim | znf, VIad - so I just figured something out |
| 16:20.24 | Snowkrim | when the Black Ice does proc |
| 16:20.29 | Snowkrim | it just gives you an extra Icicle proc |
| 16:20.40 | Snowkrim | that's how they indicate the proc :D |
| 16:20.47 | Snowkrim | so that makes things kinda easy now :P |
| 16:21.33 | Snowkrim | so the trait really what it does, just duplicates your last icicle proc every now and then |
| 16:21.36 | VIad | but I am too weak minded to code atm after my tooth extraction |
| 16:21.38 | VIad | :( |
| 16:21.42 | Snowkrim | that's fine man :D |
| 16:21.56 | Snowkrim | wisdom tooth? |
| 16:22.11 | VIad | yes |
| 16:22.55 | znf | I hate swapping programming languages |
| 16:23.03 | znf | I can never remember how to concat from script to script |
| 16:23.09 | Snowkrim | VIad: ouch :< |
| 16:23.20 | VIad | only ouch is if I try to eat :p and passive pain |
| 16:23.27 | VIad | so having soup atm |
| 16:23.35 | Snowkrim | soup sounds even worse than hard food O_O |
| 16:23.45 | modernist | well timed complaint, i just wrote something out in css in the middle of my lua file |
| 16:24.10 | znf | how do you /dump something in code? |
| 16:25.13 | VIad | why? its something I can drink :p |
| 16:25.21 | VIad | and its the upper tooth so I can avoid getting stuff into it |
| 16:27.21 | VIad | WORLD OF TALKCRAFT |
| 16:27.24 | VIad | still talking omg |
| 16:27.29 | VIad | this is so boring |
| 16:27.32 | VIad | I have no clue about pvp |
| 16:27.36 | VIad | I just want to watch |
| 16:27.51 | VIad | its like if you had fotball on tv and they spent 1 hour to talk, then 15 min to play, then 1 hour to talk more |
| 16:28.30 | modernist | is it the same guys who do the overwatch casting |
| 16:28.53 | modernist | they usually end up talking about what they saw at the cinema or ate for lunch by the third game break |
| 16:29.08 | znf | it seems like e-sports didn't learn shit from classical sports |
| 16:29.14 | znf | nobody gives a fuck about the intermissions |
| 16:29.35 | nebula | they still need to give time for the teams to take a short break and get set up. |
| 16:29.36 | VIad | there isnt that much to talk about in wow arena 3v3 |
| 16:29.46 | VIad | contra 5v5 dota with many more strats and ways to do things |
| 16:31.04 | modernist | overwatch one takes extra long because its all usually done remotely |
| 16:31.24 | modernist | think the last one i watched their healer was actually playing on 3G tethered from his mobile |
| 16:31.30 | modernist | which, just, how? |
| 16:31.33 | znf | Snowkrim, for some reasons, the damage comes from 228597 and not 116 (spellIDs) |
| 16:31.42 | Gnarfoz | how what? if it works, it works |
| 16:32.13 | modernist | i wouldnt have thought the network would be able to keep up with the speed of an fps' gameplay |
| 16:32.20 | Gnarfoz | uhhh |
| 16:32.44 | Gnarfoz | game network traffic bandwidth requirements are pretty low |
| 16:33.47 | znf | latency is the issue, not bandwidth |
| 16:34.09 | Gnarfoz | and 3g is good enough for that |
| 16:36.08 | znf | Snowkrim, replace 116 with 228597 as the frostbolt spell |
| 16:37.42 | znf | ...why would they keep the spellID as 116, but the damage come from 228597? |
| 16:37.45 | znf | how does that make sense? |
| 16:37.54 | VIad | morphing spells :D |
| 16:39.06 | modernist | differing effects at different player levels? |
| 16:39.17 | modernist | keeping those "classic" spell ids for a wave of nostalgia? |
| 16:39.36 | znf | *but* looking at your old addon |
| 16:39.46 | znf | I can't seem to find any use for dmgAmount |
| 16:40.43 | PhatsoTGT | weakauras still doesnt have icons With Active and CD in one? |
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| 16:40.58 | PhatsoTGT | Y? |
| 16:47.25 | znf | Other than tooltip scanning, can you see the damage that a spell is supposed to be doing when you cast it? |
| 16:47.40 | znf | the tooltip of Frostbolt updates properly |
| 16:47.51 | Gnarfoz | ask whoever wrote DrDamage back in the day |
| 16:48.44 | Snowkrim | wow that id stuff is really weird then |
| 16:48.56 | Snowkrim | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=228597/frostbolt |
| 16:49.06 | Snowkrim | that ID was rank 1 frostbolt cast in wotlk lol |
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| 16:50.48 | znf | you could store the damage on spell-cast-succeeded |
| 16:50.56 | znf | or whatever that event is |
| 16:51.08 | Snowkrim | ya I think that would be best |
| 16:51.55 | znf | from my limited testing, I notice that you get an icicle regardless if you hit the target or not |
| 16:52.21 | modernist | yeah me & snow just did a quick test of that |
| 16:52.56 | modernist | immune states will still allow an icicle to form. it happens more or less directly on UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED |
| 16:54.00 | znf | and the icicle damage is based on the amount that your spell is supposed to do, regardless of the vulnerabilities on the target |
| 16:54.08 | pompy | https://soundcloud.com/ostm4cka/illusionwho-goes-there |
| 16:56.23 | modernist | jungle isnt dead |
| 16:56.38 | modernist | ahh there's even a lil timestretch |
| 16:56.40 | Snowkrim | znf, I don't think you get any damage on it at all if the hit missed or was immuned |
| 17:00.14 | znf | hahaha, this is funny |
| 17:00.21 | znf | you get a stack of Icicles, if you miss |
| 17:00.38 | znf | but when you ice lance it, an icicle doesn't fire |
| 17:01.24 | znf | also, the icicles aren't affected by target vulnerabilities (ie: target takes x% more damage) |
| 17:02.45 | znf | at least low level target dummies aren't affected by it |
| 17:02.55 | Snowkrim | yep |
| 17:02.57 | Snowkrim | we just tested this |
| 17:02.59 | Snowkrim | in a duel |
| 17:03.00 | Snowkrim | as you said it |
| 17:03.30 | Snowkrim | its basically buggy on blizzards side \ |
| 17:03.34 | Snowkrim | shouldn't get a buff |
| 17:03.41 | Snowkrim | cause you don't get an icicle for missed/immuned hits :D |
| 17:03.52 | Snowkrim | guess they forgot to add a check for that |
| 17:05.12 | modernist | proof, at last |
| 17:05.18 | modernist | that mage is half-finished ;) |
| 17:05.26 | modernist | frost mage* |
| 17:05.28 | Snowkrim | :D |
| 17:06.31 | Snowkrim | guess they add a buff stack on finished spell casts, then they add the amount of damage the spell did, but they forgot to account for the situation where frostbolt cast is finished but doesn't hit the target |
| 17:07.16 | Snowkrim | which seems like a really stupid mistake to make :D |
| 17:07.51 | modernist | does anything happen other than the aura icon adds a stack? |
| 17:08.35 | modernist | therefore a UI issue, and something to bug TheDanW about |
| 17:08.56 | znf | heh |
| 17:15.15 | znf | Let's go try doing Mythic+ again, get rejected to a billion groups, again! |
| 17:16.27 | nevcairiel | make friends already |
| 17:16.37 | nevcairiel | who has fun pugging anyway |
| 17:17.18 | kullervo | an icicle appears overhead? |
| 17:20.17 | znf | my friends stopped playing :P |
| 17:20.27 | znf | and the ones who kept going in WoD are now in different guilds *shrug* |
| 17:20.48 | Snowkrim | kullervo, no it does not :D |
| 17:20.51 | Snowkrim | but you get a buff |
| 17:20.53 | Snowkrim | how weird is that huh |
| 17:20.55 | kullervo | right |
| 17:21.11 | Snowkrim | and then when you attempt to release the icicle, nothing happens, you just retain the useless/dead buff :D |
| 17:21.18 | Snowkrim | kinda funny |
| 17:22.43 | Snowkrim | so actually the default UI is very misleading |
| 17:22.51 | Snowkrim | the buff could say you have 5 icicles, when in reality you have 0. |
| 17:22.56 | Snowkrim | of course it's unlikely to happen, still shitty |
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| 17:28.45 | Snowkrim | http://imgur.com/h0fQfyU because it would be just way too hard to add some vertical spacing between the icons for the spectator UI of a tournament that happens once per year for WoW :) |
| 17:28.50 | Snowkrim | *facepalm* |
| 17:29.01 | Ssateneth | [10:25:42pm] <znf> So what exactly can I use Mark of Honor on? |
| 17:29.07 | Ssateneth | pvp transmog gear from older levels |
| 17:29.22 | znf | yeah, found out eventually |
| 17:29.24 | Snowkrim | yeah you can buy stuff with it in the old honor vendors |
| 17:29.28 | Snowkrim | one in orgrimmar |
| 17:29.30 | znf | wowhead/wowdb don't have the vendors properly |
| 17:29.30 | Snowkrim | one in mop zode |
| 17:29.35 | Snowkrim | one in wod zone |
| 17:32.40 | Snowkrim | znf, I can give you the location of the vendors if you can't find em |
| 17:35.52 | znf | I know the vendors |
| 17:35.59 | znf | I just wasn't able to find the items sold and the prices |
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| 18:15.45 | fewyn | is http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/ showing broken images for anyone else? |
| 18:16.56 | zenzelezz | not for me |
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| 18:32.55 | PhatsoTGT | theres still no weakaura or tellmewhen version that supports hooking to the resource nameplate right? |
| 18:33.25 | zenzelezz | was there ever a strongauras? |
| 18:33.39 | Stanzilla | https://github.com/WeakAuras/WeakAuras2/pull/7 |
| 18:33.42 | Stanzilla | feel free to finish it |
| 18:33.43 | znf | PowerAuras |
| 18:35.18 | PhatsoTGT | is there a way to download the repo including the pull? |
| 18:35.35 | PhatsoTGT | im no bueno in using git |
| 18:37.56 | Iriel | There's a ref for the post-PR merge |
| 18:38.13 | Iriel | You can find the syntax online (I dont remember it off the top of my head, and my notes are at work) |
| 18:38.52 | PhatsoTGT | oh |
| 18:38.57 | PhatsoTGT | i can just go to his repo |
| 18:38.59 | PhatsoTGT | lol |
| 18:39.24 | Iriel | If his repo is current against WeakAuras2 then that'd work. |
| 18:39.39 | Stanzilla | (it's not) |
| 18:39.48 | PhatsoTGT | i just realized |
| 18:39.53 | PhatsoTGT | "two years old" |
| 18:39.53 | Iriel | You can also just clone weakauras, and merge the other repo |
| 18:40.05 | PhatsoTGT | thats so much work |
| 18:40.17 | Iriel | Welcome to Software Development, enjoy your stay |
| 18:43.56 | zenzelezz | :D |
| 18:44.44 | zenzelezz | at times I have a love/hate relationship with working in software development |
| 18:45.01 | zenzelezz | the rest of the time it's more happy/miscontent |
| 18:45.47 | zenzelezz | or is that malcontent |
| 18:46.23 | Ketho | I can't find some FileDataID entries for the Legion MovieIDs, unless I got the wrong ones http://wow.gamepedia.com/MovieId |
| 18:46.41 | Ketho | it's not in here at least, like filedataid 1467053 https://github.com/Resike/ModelFileDataID |
| 18:52.32 | foxlit | unsurprising; movies were added rather late in the beta cycle. |
| 18:53.28 | [TOM_RUS] | Ketho, MovieVariation.db2 |
| 18:54.20 | [TOM_RUS] | http://imgur.com/a/Zyyp1 |
| 18:54.35 | foxlit | Ketho wanted filenames for those fileids, [TOM_RUS]. |
| 18:55.21 | [TOM_RUS] | he did? |
| 18:55.35 | [TOM_RUS] | 1467053 AE644FF8BF18C120 All_WoW Interface\Cinematics\Legion_DH2_640.avi |
| 18:55.45 | foxlit | I presume so, because there's a large section of the table on that wowpedia page that has movieid and fileid, but no path |
| 18:56.23 | foxlit | (granted I'm just reading "filedataid entries" as whatever the heck I want, so who knows.) |
| 18:57.42 | Ketho | Legion_DH2_640 is not in my filedata :S where do I get the most up to date one |
| 18:59.35 | bluspacecow | just curious guys anyway of reading the hotfix file ? |
| 19:00.12 | Alram | https://github.com/bloerwald/LegionFiles/commits/master Ketho |
| 19:00.15 | Alram | generally the most up to date |
| 19:01.37 | Ketho | Alram: those are just listfiles though ... |
| 19:02.10 | Alram | oh you want a mapping? |
| 19:02.13 | Ketho | yea |
| 19:02.14 | bluspacecow | listfiles are cool now |
| 19:02.18 | bluspacecow | I wear listfiles now |
| 19:02.30 | bluspacecow | *prints them out* |
| 19:02.32 | Alram | might need a quick script to map those then, Ketho |
| 19:03.45 | znf | Someone needs to do a meme with warlocks and "what is my role here?" "you summon people" |
| 19:06.49 | [TOM_RUS] | CASCExplorer prints filedata to name mapping into debug.log when you run Analyze unknown files command |
| 19:09.49 | ls- | TheDanW: is it intended that we can no longer apply vertex colour to desaturated textures in 7.1? |
| 19:10.03 | znf | doubt you'll get an answer on weekends |
| 19:10.12 | ls- | ah, yeah... forgot about it T_T |
| 19:10.25 | ls- | I' |
| 19:10.27 | ls- | ugh |
| 19:10.38 | ls- | i'll ask him on monday/tuesday then :p |
| 19:11.16 | Stanzilla | this retrieving item information crap is getting on my nerves |
| 19:11.40 | ls- | m? |
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| 19:14.22 | Ketho | [TOM_RUS]: that works I guess |
| 19:16.45 | bluspacecow | -___- |
| 19:16.56 | bluspacecow | can't find a list of mailboxes for the broken isles |
| 19:17.07 | bluspacecow | in Suramar and wanna check ma mail :( |
| 19:21.30 | bluspacecow | i'm rather sleepy zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 19:22.32 | fewyn | i really love the idea of roll the bones... but my luck is just terrible i feel like i constantly need to re-roll |
| 19:33.59 | Stanzilla | only reroll when you dont have 2 buffs |
| 19:34.06 | fewyn | that's the problem Stanzilla |
| 19:34.08 | Stanzilla | at least that is |
| 19:34.16 | fewyn | i swear to god i only ever get 1 buff |
| 19:34.28 | fewyn | i'm constantly re-rolling half of the boss fightsd |
| 19:34.42 | fewyn | and on trash? just forget about it |
| 19:35.15 | Stanzilla | yeah fuck trash |
| 19:35.18 | Stanzilla | this is pretty good http://blog.askmrrobot.com/outlaw-roll-the-bones-rtb/ |
| 19:39.40 | zenzelezz | I'm seriously puzzled by how many World of Tanks players who think that everyone is cheating; no understanding of how and where things happen (ie... not on the client) |
| 19:43.35 | znf | why would you even play that anyway? |
| 19:45.15 | zenzelezz | I still enjoy it; but I couldn't give you an explanation why |
| 19:45.41 | zenzelezz | one of the few PvP-ish games I like |
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| 19:54.39 | znf | a BIG QoL change would be to have S2M stopped when the boss dies |
| 19:54.59 | zenzelezz | S2M? |
| 19:55.44 | znf | surrender to madness |
| 19:56.09 | znf | kills you after it ends |
| 19:58.55 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 19:59.01 | fewyn | ?_? |
| 19:59.08 | fewyn | all of my hunter's macros |
| 19:59.08 | zenzelezz | well, we lived with it on Vaelastrasz |
| 19:59.09 | fewyn | are gone? |
| 20:00.06 | zenzelezz | fewyn: hunters were considered too OP with macros |
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| 20:43.11 | modernist | any idea why the first argument (global spec id) of GetSpecializationInfo() is returning nil on PLAYER_LOGIN? |
| 20:43.26 | modernist | local id, name = GetSpecializationInfo(GetSpecialization()) |
| 20:43.30 | modernist | both of these actually |
| 20:43.44 | modernist | GetSpecialization is returning fine though |
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| 20:44.23 | Stanzilla | P_L is too early |
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| 20:45.27 | Fisker | Hey Stanzilla |
| 20:47.34 | modernist | ah, P_E_W works instead |
| 20:47.37 | modernist | thanks |
| 20:54.42 | zenzelezz | pew pew |
| 20:59.02 | znf | ewew |
| 20:59.26 | PhatsoTGT | wasnt there a scaling option for weakaura groups in the past? |
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| 21:09.14 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/oXMNHeG.png |
| 21:09.22 | znf | ...? |
| 21:09.48 | Xuerian | no talk |
| 21:10.58 | Fisker | No shadow priest* |
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| 21:36.23 | modernist | @Snowkrim: still working on dmg # tracking but: http://i.pi.gy/jNL4.gif |
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| 23:00.52 | Ssateneth | man znf |
| 23:00.58 | Ssateneth | just not your luck |
| 23:01.09 | Ssateneth | have you linked logs/meters to show you arent potato? |
| 23:02.35 | znf | :-( |
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| 23:22.51 | foxlit | meh, so between the current promotions, you get to link your battle.net account to your twitch account, and your twitch account to your amazon account. |
| 23:23.04 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 23:23.19 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 23:23.35 | Fisker | Yeah foxlit there should be some EU investigations into that nonsense |
| 23:23.39 | modernist | yeah i didnt bother with the account linking big data merge |
| 23:24.07 | modernist | seems a little skeezy |
| 23:30.02 | foxlit | (it also takes more documentation to tell blizzard you've moved than it does to open a bank account.) |
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| 23:36.48 | Fisker | Where did you move foxlit ? |
| 23:37.16 | Stanzilla | why does blizzard need to know you moved |
| 23:37.57 | Fisker | Probably because he changed countries |
| 23:40.30 | foxlit | Stanzilla: dunno, for some reason they retain your physical address. Maybe to send you more paperweight statues. |
| 23:41.00 | Fisker | You have a paperweight statue? |
| 23:41.02 | nevcairiel | dont think i had to provide much info when i changed my physical address |
| 23:41.05 | Fisker | I'll take it off your hands |
| 23:41.20 | nevcairiel | but its been a few years |
| 23:41.22 | Fisker | You only do when you change countries last I recall |
| 23:42.01 | foxlit | "submit your current government-issued photo ID and a copy of your most recent utility bill" |
