| 00:02.27 | znf | pft, I dont' have friends! |
| 00:03.24 | Ressy | Anyone know how to get into the Moonguard Stronghold area, without constant deaths? |
| 00:03.48 | bshelden | Glider from highmountain |
| 00:03.48 | nebula | Ressy: from the SW |
| 00:04.25 | nebula | ie, just run north from the irongrove retreat fp |
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| 00:05.40 | Constie | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=40883/fate-of-the-guard#comments:id=2372187 |
| 00:07.05 | Auro | hey, i'm having an issue with calling a protected function Hide on my addon. I only call Hide on my own frames, and as far as I know it should not be being called when the error pops up. The objective tracker does get parented to be hidden sometimes, but this part of the code would not be hit when the error popped up. Error: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/OhBizzle/24b39fd410ebf03ed9033097d86c68cd/raw/6d70e4a7a0ef0f3ce98b0edc8378be318968af3 |
| 00:07.06 | Auro | f/2016-09-29_19-02-52.txt / Frame Hiding: https://gitlab.com/hsadler/gottagofast/blob/legion/GottaGoFast/Timer.lua#L121 / Frame Parenting: https://gitlab.com/hsadler/gottagofast/blob/legion/GottaGoFast/Timer.lua#L232 |
| 00:07.10 | Auro | sorry for the long spam |
| 00:08.12 | nebula | touching ObjectiveTrackerFrame at all will eventually lead to errors |
| 00:08.18 | foxlit | the gist link is dead. |
| 00:08.36 | Ssateneth | what is gottagofast |
| 00:08.41 | Auro | sorry relinking : https://gist.githubusercontent.com/OhBizzle/24b39fd410ebf03ed9033097d86c68cd/raw/6d70e4a7a0ef0f3ce98b0edc8378be318968af3f/2016-09-29_19-02-52.txt |
| 00:08.47 | Auro | GottaGoFast is a Mythic+ / Timewalking Timer |
| 00:08.56 | Constie | It's also truth. |
| 00:09.01 | Ssateneth | ah, i clicked commits to lok for info |
| 00:11.08 | Auro | nebula: if there is a better way to hide it I definitely will use it, but the current code shows / hides very well. It just randomly tosses that error when i'm running around the world (not even crossing zones) |
| 00:11.23 | foxlit | meh, uninstall BugGrabber and call it a day. |
| 00:11.24 | nebula | it's from going to into combat with your map open most likely |
| 00:12.06 | nebula | there's a secure action button tied to that instantly complete a wq class hall upgrade that causes that |
| 00:12.58 | nebula | so touching anything related will taint that and cause errors |
| 00:13.10 | Auro | foxlit lol, ah ok nebula that makes sense |
| 00:13.26 | Auro | I just try to put out error free code, so it was very confusing |
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| 00:13.53 | Constie | foxlol. |
| 00:14.50 | foxlit | semi-serious: buggrabber pretends it's an error, but the default UI is much less whiny about those issues. |
| 00:14.59 | Auro | Ahh ok that makes sense |
| 00:15.11 | Auro | Anything else out there for storing bugs without them covering your screen? |
| 00:15.43 | TheDanW | the objective tracker and map are pretty tightly coupled atm, it's very easy for innocuous code to taint those systems - i'm hoping to do something similar to the secure mixin tech applied to the scrolling message frame intrinsic in 7.1 to reduce the innocuous taint spread |
| 00:15.54 | TheDanW | no time frame though |
| 00:16.11 | nebula | i just have the ADDON_BLOCKED event commented out in BugGrabber |
| 00:18.04 | foxlit | I don't think anyone described what a secure mixin is. |
| 00:20.25 | Auro | btw the stock m+ timer gets really messed up on reload / rezone / relog |
| 00:21.14 | Auro | i've seen it vary up to 20 seconds |
| 00:22.31 | TheDanW | secureMixin isn't really something an addon author would write, as everything would just immediately become tainted again |
| 00:22.39 | TheDanW | it's something we use to make Lua code acts similar to the Lua -> C widget boundary, it basically ignores external taint so that the implementation of the mixin doesn't become tainted |
| 00:22.53 | TheDanW | unless tainted code modifies the implementation |
| 00:31.09 | foxlit | So basically I could call something:Method(foo, bar) from addon code and if something was created by secure code (is that a requirement?) and Method was added by a secureMixin, the implementing code would run securely? |
| 00:33.32 | TheDanW | basically yes |
| 00:34.02 | TheDanW | it's not a requirement that the function was created by secure code, but it if its not then the taint is retained, so the arguments would be tainted again |
| 00:35.16 | foxlit | Would <Frame secureMixin="CircularBufferMixin"> work in addon code? |
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| 00:39.04 | TheDanW | it shouldn't work, we don't want addon code to directly call our mixins, since some of them cast spells or other secure actions, it may not be restricted on PTR yet though |
| 00:40.16 | TheDanW | it should effectively behave like it was mixed in insecurely |
| 00:45.20 | znf | I really really hate that 150% haste point in Voidform |
| 00:45.50 | Auro | where would I go to report the bug with m+ and GetWorldElapsedTime(1); ? |
| 00:46.09 | znf | I can't keep up with casting spells at that point |
| 00:46.13 | znf | or, rather, the GCD can't keep up |
| 00:46.25 | foxlit | (CBM is cheating anyway, since it's really not a mixin.) |
| 00:49.11 | Gnarfoz | if you just ignore addon_blocked, you'll just have a non-working quest item button in the tracker without any indication as to why ;p |
| 00:49.28 | nebula | oh, i know why |
| 00:50.34 | TheDanW | Auro: if you post steps in http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=169 and ping me with the link i'll get QA to look at it |
| 00:51.06 | Auro | TheDanW: Thank you, i'll gather data you can use friday / saturday and make a post |
| 00:51.40 | Auro | It probably doesn't matter, but the bug existed in WoD |
| 00:51.42 | Auro | as well |
| 00:55.51 | znf | I just feel like strangling some people |
| 00:55.59 | znf | let's kite the damn roots on cenarius straight in the raid |
| 00:56.15 | Ressy | Is there a way to see why I'm still in combat, even have a forced log out and back in? |
| 00:56.51 | Ressy | even after* |
| 00:57.10 | znf | Ressy, use spectral guise! |
| 00:57.11 | znf | oh, wait |
| 00:57.12 | ls- | combat loves you :p |
| 00:57.22 | Ressy | Somehow got into combat in Meredil, portaled out, ran a ways, handed in 2 quests, exited wow, came back, and I'm still in combat. |
| 00:57.23 | foxlit | TheDanW: is the C implementation of ScrollingMessageFrame entirely replaced by the framexml stuff in 7.1? |
| 00:58.07 | TheDanW | foxlit: yes |
| 00:58.14 | ls- | noice |
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| 01:08.51 | foxlit | interesting times, then. |
| 01:11.14 | znf | <random offtopic crap> |
| 01:11.33 | znf | I'm surprised how many americans think that pickles are a vegetable by it's own, and don't do the cucumber connection |
| 01:11.58 | ls- | :D lol |
| 01:12.31 | znf | guessing it has to do with the language |
| 01:12.40 | Guill | znf: Then what is it? You wouldn't put a pickle in a fruit salad. |
| 01:12.42 | znf | we normally call them "pickled cucumber" |
| 01:12.59 | znf | but american-english just calls them pickles |
| 01:13.07 | znf | cucumbers! |
| 01:13.26 | Guill | IMO, if it's green and you wouldn't put it in a fruit salad, it's classified as a vegetable. |
| 01:14.01 | foxlit | I thought the issue was that people were imagining pickles growing on plants or something. |
| 01:16.08 | Thunder_Child | Guill: uh..unripe banana. |
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| 01:19.46 | mckenziemc | heys and hugs Cairenn. |
| 01:19.54 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
| 01:24.18 | mckenziemc | puts tomatoes in Thunder_Child's fruit salad. |
| 01:24.26 | ls- | damn, instead of drinking 9th cup of coffee I should go to bed, although it's 8:23am atm T_T |
| 01:24.32 | znf | foxlit, yes, people think pickles are their own kind of vegetables |
| 01:24.46 | ls- | mb wait till next evening :p |
| 01:25.05 | znf | https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/553kbp/what_fact_did_you_learn_at_an_embarrassingly_late/d87gcj8 |
| 01:25.16 | znf | (it's not the first time I see this kind of discussion) |
| 01:33.06 | mckenziemc | In parts of the U.S. Midwest, bell peppers are called "mangoes."[10] |
| 01:33.08 | mckenziemc | WTH |
| 01:33.32 | Corrodias | iunno. never heard that in Wisconsin. |
| 01:33.45 | Corrodias | but the midwest empire is constantly growing, annexing new states over time |
| 01:33.57 | Corrodias | it's hard to say what people get up to down in some of the newer colonies |
| 01:35.44 | ls- | znf: quite many people think that pea grows as a seed... |
| 01:36.39 | Torhal | znf: Even as a child, I didn't think that. I've always found it strange that people say "pickled eggs" or "pickled pig's feet" or whatever, but cucumbers are simply "pickles" |
| 01:37.25 | mckenziemc | pickled pigs feet is pretty damn strange... |
| 01:37.45 | Torhal | Indeed. |
| 01:37.47 | ls- | znf: I mean like some kind of vine or small bush w/ seeds on it :p |
| 01:38.10 | ls- | they're common in china, sorta :p |
| 01:40.55 | znf | weird |
| 01:41.01 | znf | but yeah, pickled pig feet? |
| 01:41.02 | znf | wtf? |
| 01:41.20 | znf | we have pickled watermelon |
| 01:41.22 | znf | that thing is delicious |
| 01:41.47 | ls- | what's wrong w/ pickled pig feet? O_o |
| 01:41.56 | znf | sounds weird |
| 01:42.02 | znf | pickled meat sounds weird |
| 01:46.21 | Corrodias | eh, i like it well enough. corned beef and, what is it... pastrami |
| 01:46.38 | Corrodias | feet, though, don't seem like a meat-rich thing |
| 01:47.03 | Corrodias | and they have the mental connotation of standing in dirt all day, with fungus and whatnot growing into the skin |
| 01:48.02 | Corrodias | but then, bacon is full of worms and antibiotics, so a fat lot of good that kind of connotation is worth |
| 01:49.06 | pompy | https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/781365829996728321 |
| 01:54.07 | ls- | corrodias, in china people tend to believe that pig feet are good for your skin, hair and joints, cuz they're full of collagen :p and they aren't wrong... |
| 01:54.53 | Corrodias | yeah, well, chinese people believe a lot of things |
| 01:56.19 | ls- | well, they aren't wrong, gelatin is quite good for cartilages and skin :p |
| 01:58.14 | znf | uhm |
| 01:58.16 | znf | wtf is soul death? |
| 01:58.57 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/7kINv97.png |
| 01:59.24 | jleclanche | ah |
| 01:59.31 | jleclanche | i was going to give a fairly philosophical answer |
| 02:00.29 | znf | did they change something on Xavius this week that I can't use S2M twice? |
| 02:01.00 | znf | slaps Stanzilla |
| 02:01.10 | Stanzilla | no |
| 02:01.39 | znf | ok, then what's soul death and why did it hit me for 8mil while S2M in the dream? |
| 02:02.00 | jleclanche | Cairenn: what was the company you recommended for tshirt printing? |
| 02:03.24 | znf | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=198426/soul-death <-- this |
| 02:05.02 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/kRr5kFT.png |
| 02:07.15 | Corrodias | unlimited range and instant. that sounds like a nice move. can you get that one? |
| 02:11.54 | mckenziemc | Corrodias: just ask Torhal. Apparently he used it on Amarande. |
| 02:12.15 | Torhal | Heh. |
| 02:18.07 | znf | god damn S2M talent |
| 02:23.53 | znf | note to self: if you pop S2M outside of voidform, you still die on expiration |
| 02:35.09 | znf | Did they change the bonus-roll restrictions? |
| 02:59.46 | karl_w_w | I've just noticed how hilarious the lyrics of this song are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKplzJRAuGo |
| 03:00.04 | karl_w_w | google translate definitely played its part |
| 03:07.29 | Mr_Rabies | karl_w_w, are you watching mob psycho? :O |
| 03:07.46 | karl_w_w | no |
| 03:12.46 | Mr_Rabies | you should |
| 03:12.51 | Mr_Rabies | its rad as heck |
| 03:12.56 | Mr_Rabies | as hECK |
| 03:13.26 | Mr_Rabies | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9-EdKLEuuA |
| 03:16.21 | karl_w_w | implying I don't already have 35 things to watch |
| 03:25.42 | znf | So what exactly can I use Mark of Honor on? |
| 03:25.53 | znf | neither wowhead or wowdb are helpful |
| 03:26.57 | znf | also, wowhead just has Alliance vendors listed |
| 03:27.01 | karl_w_w | you can show them to people you meet to show you are honorable |
| 03:27.01 | znf | (so does wowdb) |
| 03:28.05 | znf | Stormshield is in Ashran? |
| 03:32.46 | mckenziemc | awards karl_w_w a Mark of Ineptitude. |
| 03:33.36 | znf | Simca, what does it take for wowdb to get updated properly? |
| 03:33.39 | znf | just visit the vendors? |
| 03:39.17 | Semlar | how does a holy paladin deal with overflow |
| 03:43.08 | Semlar | our healer basically can't heal because he overheals the crap out of everyone |
| 03:43.20 | Semlar | and it's adding a giant healing absorb |
| 03:47.07 | znf | replace healer and press any key to continue |
| 03:47.10 | znf | oh, look, it's 7am |
| 03:47.13 | znf | I should go to sleep |
| 03:47.26 | Semlar | also |
| 03:47.39 | Semlar | how do you get a shield from overhealing without healing the target to 100% |
| 03:47.49 | Semlar | it's just ignoring the heal completely |
| 03:47.53 | Semlar | and giving them a shield |
| 03:48.30 | Semlar | so if the heal WOULD overheal them, it doesn't heal them |
| 03:55.10 | Constie | Very carefully. |
| 03:55.11 | Mr_Rabies | wew lad everythign i hate about lfr all at once |
| 03:55.26 | Mr_Rabies | we run in to nythtendra, the tanks, who don't speak english, pull all the trash |
| 03:55.36 | Mr_Rabies | we basically wipe and i die 3 times as soon as i res |
| 03:55.45 | Mr_Rabies | so i wait to res for about 5 seconds, immediately get kicked for being afk |
| 03:56.38 | Constie | LFR is not the best. |
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| 04:03.34 | Mr_Rabies | they really need to give the spanish and portuguese realms their own seperate queue servers, i can't believe they're still shared |
| 04:08.40 | mckenziemc | Por quê? |
| 04:11.38 | Torhal | Heal o kik, mckenziemc! |
| 04:14.35 | mckenziemc | /kicks Torhal. |
| 04:15.06 | Torhal | consigns mckenziemc to LFR upon login. |
| 04:15.51 | mckenziemc | co-signs Torhal to a 2-year contract with Comcast. |
| 04:16.01 | Torhal | Too late. |
| 04:16.05 | Torhal | Fucker. :/ |
| 04:18.15 | mckenziemc | i don't know who the other signatory is; you'll have to call Comcast |
| 04:20.47 | Torhal | It was you, mckenziemc. I'm contemplating bankruptcy just to stick you with the bill. |
| 04:22.05 | mckenziemc | pleads insanity. |
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| 05:23.28 | Simca | Semlar: that sounds pretty crazy |
| 05:23.41 | Simca | and yeah, holy paladins have no small heals |
| 05:23.45 | Simca | light of dawn maybe |
| 05:24.13 | Simca | tell him clearly he just has to macro unequipping his weapon into his rotation so he can heal for low enough |
| 05:24.16 | Simca | :kappa: |
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| 05:36.05 | Semlar | you can't change talents once it starts |
| 05:36.08 | Semlar | soo |
| 05:36.27 | Semlar | if you don't already know what you're getting into, you're screwed |
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| 05:55.11 | Auro | Is there any event that fires off after the initial login freeze? |
| 05:55.43 | Auro | Trying to sync timers and that initial lockdown messes it up by 5-10 seconds |
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| 06:24.48 | nebula | some reason you don't just save the initial expiry and use that? |
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| 08:50.49 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/a/Dr7U4 |
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| 08:55.53 | mikma | karl_w_w: awww yissss. mewt spin, we meat again. |
| 09:09.45 | mikma | also, typo. "meet spin, we meat again" |
| 09:19.12 | karl_w_w | oh baby, buying a decent pen after struggling for a week with a dozen pens that all refuse to work properly |
| 09:19.17 | karl_w_w | small pleasures |
| 09:21.10 | karl_w_w | all hail the mitsubishi pencil company |
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| 09:22.22 | znf | Roses are red, some items are grey... one of the Withered is running away! |
| 09:22.32 | znf | I'm laughing my ass off at this thread on reddit |
| 09:22.43 | ls- | link? |
| 09:23.18 | karl_w_w | zelda? |
| 09:26.08 | znf | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/555u64/roses_are_red_and_sometimes_theyre_white_and_when/ |
| 09:26.50 | znf | Roses are red, it's pretty late, it would be a shame if Su'esh escaped. |
| 09:30.06 | karl_w_w | my entry is a nice throwback I feel |
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| 09:34.08 | ls- | relatable: Roses are red, prepared flask and potion, zoned into raid, retrieving item information. |
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| 09:48.15 | Guest456882 | karl_w_w: can't find yours |
| 09:55.28 | karl_w_w | Roses are red, the ice stone has melted. The ice stone has melted, the ice stone has melted! |
| 09:59.20 | Seeker` | Roses are red, violets are blue, did somebody say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]? |
| 10:00.39 | karl_w_w | I honestly hate that poem |
| 10:00.45 | karl_w_w | because violets are NOT blue |
| 10:01.00 | nevcairiel | they are violet |
| 10:01.01 | nevcairiel | tada! |
| 10:01.17 | karl_w_w | http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/da/da2f259ab46ae177c4893f39e13ec04f110b3055597c0d92a3e242c6462d7f2b.jpg |
| 10:04.21 | ls- | violets are violent o_O |
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| 10:16.28 | Aftermathh | Morning ppl |
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| 10:23.15 | ls- | hi |
| 10:25.21 | ls- | damn, today is Ashura, completely forgot about it, that's why my barber isn't working rn T_T |
| 10:26.20 | ls- | that's muslim holiday, my barber is Iraqi... |
| 10:30.34 | ls- | or it's not today, but he left to get ready for it... |
| 10:30.40 | ls- | whatever... |
| 10:31.52 | ls- | if my grandfather was alive, he might have killed me for not knowing it :p |
| 10:32.18 | ls- | were* |
| 10:41.21 | znf | wait |
| 10:41.22 | znf | Vantus runes are not usable on mythic? |
| 10:41.22 | znf | lol |
| 10:43.13 | nevcairiel | not right now |
| 10:43.22 | nevcairiel | because they want to avoid guilds rotating people for their rune |
| 10:50.34 | znf | That's kind of a silly explanation, but I get it. |
| 10:50.46 | znf | (I've seen their tweet) |
| 10:51.51 | znf | In reality, I don't think it should be past the first week (after the race is over) |
| 10:54.01 | znf | Top Progression Guilds abusing T18 set bonuses from HFC. Get them while you can. (self.wow) |
| 10:54.02 | znf | heh |
| 10:56.33 | modernist | recommendations for web host services? |
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| 11:14.54 | Miiru | mhm christmas sweets *drool* |
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| 12:39.45 | VIad | simple wisdom tooth extraction ended up with stings, yay |
| 12:40.55 | VIad | because apparently after extraction, the hole connected to my sinuses and it was the first time my dentist had witnessed such during his 30 years of practice :p |
| 12:43.02 | bluspacecow | so |
| 12:43.12 | bluspacecow | now you look like one of pinhead's cronies |
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| 12:52.31 | VIad | more like I have my medication on standby so I can take it an hour :p |
| 13:13.56 | znf | Ironii, help. I want red text on my dots, but no flashing |
| 13:17.17 | bluspacecow | ... i totally misread stings as strings |
| 13:17.34 | bluspacecow | and had this weird image in my head of znf with a string apparatus around his head. sorry znf |
| 13:17.54 | znf | Ironii, to clarify, I want red text under 3 seconds, but no flashing :-/ |
| 13:18.08 | znf | can't seem to do that :( |
| 13:18.22 | Gnarfoz | what are stings? |
| 13:18.33 | Gnarfoz | in this context, that is |
| 13:19.53 | bluspacecow | Vlad's wisdom tooth extraction |
| 13:20.02 | bluspacecow | and i can't even apologise to the right person |
| 13:20.08 | bluspacecow | I'm sorry Vlad |
| 13:20.25 | VIad | lol |
| 13:20.41 | bluspacecow | here (.)_(.) |
| 13:20.54 | VIad | I have this weird draft when I close my teeth and blow air out my mouth :p |
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| 13:21.03 | VIad | I guess until the gum heals and such |
| 13:22.22 | VIad | he had to cut my gums and use the flesh to cover the hole |
| 13:22.28 | VIad | then sew it shut :d |
| 13:22.38 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 13:22.52 | bluspacecow | you know that apparatus they use to keep your mouth open ? mine broke :P |
| 13:23.16 | VIad | they put some thing inside to help keep my jaw open |
| 13:23.20 | VIad | like the hood of a car |
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| 13:27.34 | VIad | btw http://ss.bool.no/capture_1475242051.png |
| 13:27.50 | VIad | wish I had the squirrel one |
| 13:27.51 | Shockah|Work | "uh yeah no." |
| 13:28.37 | VIad | free 10 guys, rift cannon |
| 13:28.40 | Shockah|Work | but yeah good use of the class hall thing |
| 13:28.49 | VIad | I just like the context |
| 13:29.02 | VIad | some WQ that are save someone, sounds dark to kill them |
| 13:29.07 | Shockah|Work | i like how you didn't have to create the Gunpack lol |
| 13:29.25 | Shockah|Work | or was it Gunshoes that was expensive |
| 13:29.27 | Shockah|Work | i can't remember |
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| 13:33.48 | Gnarfoz | VIad:Â do you maybe mean stitches? |
| 13:33.49 | nebula | gunshoes |
| 13:33.49 | Gnarfoz | not stings |
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| 13:34.44 | Gnarfoz | probably depends on the wisdom tooth's position/progression, but having to stitch the gums back up doesn't sound like an uncommon thing at all |
| 13:35.08 | Seeker` | woo, outlaw hidden appearance has been found, and apparently it doesn't require any rep |
| 13:35.23 | VIad | Gnarfoz: he used thread and needle so |
| 13:35.24 | VIad | :D |
| 13:35.29 | Gnarfoz | so... yes? stitches. |
| 13:35.31 | Gnarfoz | common |
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| 13:35.40 | Gnarfoz | Seeker`:Â share more info |
| 13:35.50 | Gnarfoz | probably gated behind AK6 like retribution, then |
| 13:36.03 | VIad | but not common that you have airflow between the tooth and sinuses :d |
| 13:36.21 | Seeker` | Gnarfoz: posts on reddit and mmo. Looks like NL AK5 for the first binding, VotW Ashgolem AK6 for the second |
| 13:36.22 | VIad | pinched my nose and I blew air out my tooth hole after the tooth was removed |
| 13:36.45 | Seeker` | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2070940-BLUE-Thunderfury-Hunt-(Compendium)-READ-THE-OP |
| 13:36.49 | VIad | if not I would have not gotten any stitches ,_, |
| 13:37.35 | LexSfX | where's master's call? also, how do i remove cc from my pet? |
| 13:37.40 | Gnarfoz | what is it with referring to something with something else than a link these days :P thanks |
| 13:38.10 | Hazal | If I localize Global functions for my addon, will it use more memory? |
| 13:38.18 | VIad | no |
| 13:38.26 | Seeker` | I didn't have the link handy and had to look it up, so I gave you a summary before I went looking for the link |
| 13:38.52 | Gnarfoz | :D I'm just being an asshole ;) |
| 13:39.03 | Gnarfoz | VIad:Â there's also this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eustachian_tube |
| 13:39.20 | Gnarfoz | and if you wouldn't have gotten stitches, was your wisdom tooth all the way "out" like a regular tooth? |
| 13:39.30 | VIad | yes |
| 13:39.50 | Thunder_Child | Gnarfoz: Admitting it is the first step to becoming a better one. |
| 13:40.12 | Gnarfoz | Thunder_Child:Â takes one to know one |
| 13:40.26 | Thunder_Child | Gnarfoz: Well yea. |
| 13:41.40 | Hazal | So if I localize a global function will the localized function just refer to the global one unless I change it, or will it become an exact copy of the global function? Because both should use some (negligible)memory I'm just wondering what happens exactly. |
| 13:42.48 | nebula | it's a ref |
| 13:43.05 | VIad | if someone changes the global function later, you keep the ref to the original one |
| 13:43.19 | nebula | assuming you mean something like local CreateFrame = _G.CreateFrame |
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| 13:44.26 | Hazal | I meant something like local UnitAura = UnitAura |
| 13:44.38 | Hazal | Or would I have to use the _G table for it to be a ref? |
| 13:44.45 | nebula | no, i was just being verbose |
| 13:45.01 | nebula | that'll just point your upvalue at the global value without the lookup |
| 13:47.10 | Hazal | Thanks a lot for clearing it up! |
| 13:54.45 | Hazal | ~framexml |
| 13:54.50 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
| 13:55.15 | karl_w_w | Dota is over 10 years old, people still discovering new mechanics https://gfycat.com/PointlessPresentAustraliansilkyterrier |
| 13:58.57 | karl_w_w | oh man, a mechanical keyboard where they replaced the right win key instead of the context menu key for their function button |
| 13:59.17 | karl_w_w | tempted to buy it just for that, I really miss my context menu button |
| 14:00.37 | Snowkrim | anyone know why OmniCC does this: http://i.imgur.com/5Oprz8Z.png |
| 14:00.42 | Snowkrim | as in text going nuts |
| 14:05.53 | Ironii | znf ill add it this weekend, at some point when i can't find a good m+ group ^^ |
| 14:06.07 | znf | wonders how Ironii keeps finding m+ groups |
| 14:06.59 | Ironii | im awesome tank with good reputation, why i wouldn't find a group :D |
| 14:08.04 | Gnarfoz | Ironii:Â znf can't fathom that, he's the polar opposite. a smelly DPS with a terrible attitude ;p |
| 14:08.13 | Ironii | true ^.^ |
| 14:08.31 | znf | you can be a shitty attitude tank :P |
| 14:08.34 | znf | people still bring you |
| 14:08.38 | znf | because they need someone to take the blows |
| 14:09.00 | Gnarfoz | I'm actually not sure what to do m+ wise this week... I'd want to do more m+2 to get l00tz, but I we only have +5 keys :D |
| 14:09.19 | Gnarfoz | we'd have to split up and pair up with others who have +2 keys |
| 14:09.20 | Ironii | do 5-6 with 3 chests |
| 14:09.22 | Ironii | better loot! |
| 14:09.25 | Gnarfoz | yes, sure |
| 14:09.37 | Gnarfoz | that's not within our reach for now |
| 14:09.51 | Ironii | at 7 you get necrotic (atleast in eu), and that sucks |
| 14:09.53 | Gnarfoz | well, m5 with +1 or maybe +w might be doable |
| 14:10.01 | Gnarfoz | +2* |
| 14:10.10 | Shockah|Work | what's +4 this week on EU? |
| 14:10.14 | Ironii | raging |
| 14:10.14 | Gnarfoz | raging |
| 14:10.21 | Ironii | +100% dmg for trash under 30% |
| 14:10.50 | Ironii | necrotic is stacking -5% heal & absorb debuff |
| 14:11.00 | Ironii | applied on every auto attack |
| 14:11.04 | Ironii | fucking awesome. |
| 14:11.35 | Ironii | oh, and it ticks some dmg too |
| 14:11.50 | Ironii | and i thought skittish was bad |
| 14:13.07 | znf | Gnarfoz, you forgot one thing |
| 14:13.11 | znf | nobody brings Shadow to M+ :P |
| 14:14.11 | Ironii | they arent THAT bad in higher levels |
| 14:14.38 | znf | We don't really have aoe damage |
| 14:14.55 | znf | Mind Sear buff is decent, but nowhere near the DHs or fire mages |
| 14:15.08 | znf | or even outlaw rogues, judging by my guildie who does 1mil dps on trash packs |
| 14:15.21 | Ironii | outlaw is too random :/ |
| 14:15.42 | nebula | we run with a casual sp in the guild all the time, doesn't really affect times much |
| 14:15.52 | Constie | You don't understand, Ironii. If you're not within 1% of the best DPS spec played at the theoretical highest possible level, you're unplayable trash that will never get a group for anything. |
| 14:16.04 | nebula | i mean, znf is basically trash |
| 14:16.06 | znf | Constie, 200k dps vs. 500k dps on aoe packs is more than 1% |
| 14:16.36 | znf | lower m+ are crap for us because we can't get our dots ticking by the time everything dies |
| 14:16.37 | Ironii | on higher levels you need more than just aoe dps :P |
| 14:16.47 | Ironii | and the mobs last longer |
| 14:16.57 | Ironii | so dots are actualy useful |
| 14:17.02 | znf | on the higher levels, yeah |
| 14:17.25 | znf | but I'm also only ilvl 848, and I can't get into higher tier groups :-/ |
| 14:17.30 | Ironii | :( |
| 14:17.45 | Ironii | wts boost, 100k / run |
| 14:17.45 | Ironii | ;) |
| 14:18.25 | nebula | carry groups are a thing now, high geared people that just want to chain run off other people's keystones |
| 14:18.35 | nebula | they typically don't care about ilvl |
| 14:18.41 | p3lim | guilty :p |
| 14:18.58 | znf | yeah, I'm aware of that |
| 14:19.14 | znf | but last week I wasn't able to find any group willing to do CoS+5 that I had |
| 14:19.20 | nebula | cos is fucking aids |
| 14:19.40 | Ironii | still better than hov |
| 14:19.41 | Ironii | :D |
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| 14:19.58 | p3lim | hov over cos any day |
| 14:20.09 | nebula | i've only done hov+6 and we three chested that pretty easy |
| 14:20.19 | znf | This week I have +3 |
| 14:20.28 | Ironii | hov isn't that hard, the instance just sucks :( |
| 14:20.29 | znf | I'm afraid I'll get a +6 key, then nobody will want to do that :D |
| 14:20.49 | Ironii | join a carry group that will boost you twice |
| 14:21.06 | znf | I'll wait until weekend |
| 14:21.16 | znf | allow people to get geared better :P |
| 14:21.31 | znf | last week everyone just wanted to boost +2 or +3, because "it's not worth the time to do a +5" |
| 14:22.22 | Ironii | tbh i don't really like the -2 key each week thing, you want to do m10 but then you get m8 key as your first key |
| 14:22.48 | nebula | you can just run a normal mythic before opening your bounty to get a +2 |
| 14:22.51 | Seeker` | I did HoV 5 last night. We enaged Odin with 2 mins to get +2. Wiped because the mage and healer decided to run in to orbs. Wiped again on the next attempt because the tank jumped through the floor, finally killed it on the 3rd attempt, with a depleted keystone |
| 14:22.54 | Ironii | and soon the randoms that need carrying will start with 6-> keys |
| 14:22.56 | znf | nebula, that doesn't work :( |
| 14:23.13 | nebula | really? i could have sworn someone in guild did that |
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| 14:23.47 | znf | most people confirmed that it didn't work |
| 14:23.54 | nebula | ah, well then |
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| 14:40.13 | LexSfX | TheDanW: macro conditional bug: pet dead state is false while pet is dead but Hati is alive, which causes "/cast [@pet,dead]Revive Pet; Call Pet 4" to fail |
| 14:40.33 | nevcairiel | hati is all sorts of trouble for the UI |
| 14:40.37 | nevcairiel | dumb concept is dumb |
| 14:41.15 | LexSfX | i want my "where the fuck is my pet?" macro to work again :( |
| 14:42.05 | nevcairiel | does your macro even work if the pet corpse despawned |
| 14:42.10 | LexSfX | yeah |
| 14:42.17 | LexSfX | or at least i think so |
| 14:42.19 | LexSfX | :o |
| 14:42.20 | nevcairiel | it should not register as dead since the unit ceases to exist |
| 14:42.26 | nevcairiel | like, relog with your pet dead |
| 14:43.08 | LexSfX | how could i possibly check that in the macro? |
| 14:43.16 | nevcairiel | probably cant =p |
| 14:43.17 | foxlit | you can't. |
| 14:43.20 | foxlit | Thanks for playing a hunter. |
| 14:43.21 | LexSfX | :x |
| 14:43.36 | foxlit | would you like to delete your character and start over with a proper class? |
| 14:43.49 | LexSfX | this is my third 110, so you can screw off |
| 14:43.50 | LexSfX | lol |
| 14:43.55 | nevcairiel | can always go lone wolf marksman and avoid the hunter fiasco |
| 14:44.53 | LexSfX | anyway, the point is that there's a macro conditional bug currently |
| 14:45.16 | nevcairiel | not necessarily, maybe hati gets promoted to the pet unit when your main pet is gone |
| 14:45.33 | nevcairiel | that wouldnt be a bug in the condiitonal then |
| 14:45.38 | nevcairiel | just weird hunter design |
| 14:46.02 | LexSfX | dead should be true if either pet is dead |
| 14:46.11 | nevcairiel | its not a smart pet magic |
| 14:46.14 | nevcairiel | its just a unit condition |
| 14:46.20 | Seeker` | Or they use tri-state logic :P |
| 14:46.24 | LexSfX | right, and the unit is pet, which should include all pets |
| 14:46.33 | nevcairiel | every unit points to one unit exactly |
| 14:46.38 | LexSfX | there's no "pet1", "pet2" |
| 14:46.38 | nevcairiel | not multiple |
| 14:46.40 | LexSfX | there could be |
| 14:46.45 | nevcairiel | exactly why hunter design is weird |
| 14:47.06 | nevcairiel | you cant even reliably build a unit frame for hati without much annoyances |
| 14:47.09 | nebula | guardians really should get proper tokens |
| 14:47.30 | LexSfX | "/cast [@pet1,dead][@pet2,dead]Revive Pet;Call Pet 4" |
| 14:47.34 | LexSfX | that would work for me |
| 14:47.36 | nevcairiel | but if the main pet is dead, and hati does get promoted to the "pet" unit, then the condition works perfectly |
| 14:47.49 | LexSfX | if there was pet1 and pet2 for main pet and Hati respectively |
| 14:48.21 | nevcairiel | from what we have been told about units and the scarciety of them specifically, i doubt they would be very happy to add a second pet thats used by one spec :D |
| 14:49.52 | foxlit | the proper fix is to remove the hunter clas--- okay, Revive Pet from the game. |
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| 14:50.58 | LexSfX | stop with the cynical crap comments |
| 14:51.33 | foxlit | Call should just morph into Revive if your pet is dead; not like you can do anything else. |
| 14:51.41 | LexSfX | yeah, true! |
| 14:51.46 | LexSfX | that would be ideal |
| 14:51.56 | nebula | mend pet does, no? |
| 14:52.27 | nevcairiel | mend pet at least serves a different purpose, but revive and call are both designed to make your pet show up, just from different ... places |
| 14:54.07 | karl_w_w | finally I worked out what was fucking up my firewall |
| 14:54.19 | karl_w_w | now it can remember rules again! |
| 14:54.32 | nevcairiel | yay? |
| 14:54.59 | karl_w_w | yay. |
| 14:55.32 | karl_w_w | every time I started most internet-using programs it was asking me if I wanted to allow it |
| 14:56.23 | Seeker` | What you really want is a "make pet be here now" button |
| 14:57.57 | LexSfX | yes, exactly, as i have had for many years on my hunter :P |
| 15:02.58 | mckenziemc | gives LexSfX a big red "make Amarande be here now" button. |
| 15:02.59 | foxlit | (the real problem is probably that revive needs a cast time and call doesn't, and the client doesn't really know whether your absent pet is dead or not.) |
| 15:03.59 | Seeker` | foxlit: They could provide a MakePetBeHereNow() function, which does the required server calls under the hood |
| 15:05.00 | mckenziemc | does call pet trigger a GCD? |
| 15:05.43 | foxlit | Seeker`: the point isn't that it's impossible to solve, but rather that you need to round up like 10 people responsible for the 10 different interacting features and get them all to do something. |
| 15:06.09 | Seeker` | shotguns are good for that |
| 15:08.06 | karl_w_w | it is possible to know if your pet is dead or just absent |
| 15:08.21 | karl_w_w | you just have to remember when it died :P |
| 15:08.35 | karl_w_w | a bit like real life |
| 15:21.27 | karl_w_w | if eventtype == "UNIT_DIED" and guid == UnitGUID("pet") and not UnitIsDeadOrGhost("player") |
| 15:21.37 | karl_w_w | is how I used to do that, no idea if it still works |
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| 15:33.34 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: any way you guys could introduce a cvar that lets you disable being able to see nameplates through floors? |
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| 15:56.56 | modernist | Fire mages can talk to Archmage Melis to hide the floating flame orbs of Felo'melorn in Patch 7.1. |
| 15:56.59 | modernist | oh thank GOD |
| 15:58.42 | bluspacecow | but i like my flaming orbs |
| 15:58.47 | bluspacecow | i give them names |
| 15:58.48 | bluspacecow | harry |
| 15:58.50 | bluspacecow | curly |
| 15:58.51 | bluspacecow | mo |
| 16:03.07 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/AxelDSF/status/781788733708402688?s=09 |
| 16:05.06 | VIad | fewyn: thats what iphone 7 without 3.5 jack does |
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| 16:05.52 | fewyn | except how often do you really use the headphone jack |
| 16:05.58 | fewyn | the only time i used it was in my car |
| 16:06.04 | fewyn | when i was hooking it up to aux |
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| 16:10.10 | VIad | everyone at my work are in their 50s and use the audio jack for headphones :p |
| 16:11.26 | fewyn | well they are old anyways |
| 16:11.29 | fewyn | they'll die soon |
| 16:11.39 | VIad | says apple |
| 16:11.59 | VIad | the jack is simple and easy and quality wise the new apple thing is apparently not a huge deal |
| 16:12.33 | VIad | apple just wanted a monopoly on headset makers to pay them a fee to be allowed to make headsets for their fancy plug |
| 16:13.01 | fewyn | bluetooth is the way forward |
| 16:13.18 | VIad | if you want to also need to recharge your headset, sure :d |
| 16:13.33 | fewyn | if you're not using it you should charge it |
| 16:13.46 | bluspacecow | zzzz |
| 16:13.47 | VIad | I am young and even I hate having to remember to charge stuff |
| 16:13.50 | bluspacecow | luke cage time |
| 16:13.54 | fewyn | i'm mostly joking |
| 16:14.10 | VIad | people are usually lazy and just want to do less and have stuff available :d |
| 16:14.19 | VIad | charging the phone is enough for me ,_, |
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| 16:17.07 | VIad | city transport guys decided to have a pet project and make a socket.io project project data of the subway system onto gmaps, but their map system looks horrible, so I wanted to make a client connect to them and better organize the data, then make my own gui for personal use - but so tired atm ,_, |
| 16:17.09 | fewyn | i am ending up buying a bluetooth adapter for my aux port in the car and i'm fine with the decision |
| 16:18.03 | VIad | also if bnet api allows it I want to make a reminder service to tell me, hey, 7 days to go until the end of hearthstone season and you arent level 20! |
| 16:18.25 | fewyn | i haven't played hearthstone in like |
| 16:18.26 | fewyn | a year |
| 16:18.44 | VIad | I still use my own deck, my praise our lord and savior yogg'saron |
| 16:18.58 | VIad | win streak to rank 20 each month |
| 16:19.07 | VIad | even did half karazhan just with that same deck >_> |
| 16:19.13 | fewyn | is a rush deck still viable? |
| 16:19.17 | fewyn | i think that's what it was called |
| 16:19.18 | VIad | karazhan was kind of easy/bad |
| 16:19.22 | VIad | aggro yes |
| 16:19.28 | VIad | ofc |
| 16:19.44 | VIad | early/mid is usually the way to go, late game decks often lose |
| 16:20.06 | fewyn | yeah it's been something like over a year since i last played |
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| 16:30.15 | Ammako | do we have an idea how rare the Torn Invitation may be? |
| 16:30.21 | VIad | very rare |
| 16:30.27 | VIad | so rare everyone else has it except you |
| 16:31.03 | Ammako | i mean i just got it |
| 16:31.07 | VIad | gz |
| 16:31.51 | Ammako | but wowhead doesnt have much about it, i assume there isnt enough data yet |
| 16:32.33 | VIad | PL broke wowhead, might be why this is broken too |
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| 17:01.10 | TheDanW | LexSfX: make a post on wowi or official forums and ping me with a link and i'll get QA to look at it |
| 17:02.03 | TheDanW | Stanzilla: i wish it was that easy, we already ask the engine if the unit has been culled and it tells us that it has not, so it gets a nameplate |
| 17:02.51 | LexSfX | TheDanW: ok. fyi, i still can't post on official forums due to a bug regarding banned license in my battle.net account (bug with enumerating characters in battle.net WoW licenses with the new forum software) |
| 17:03.04 | LexSfX | it's been 2 months now |
| 17:04.01 | TheDanW | you'd have to contact CS about that, we don't interact with that system |
| 17:04.12 | LexSfX | ya, did. ok, np |
| 17:04.40 | TheDanW | wowi is fine for a bug report though |
| 17:04.44 | LexSfX | ok |
| 17:12.34 | Gnarfoz | I was too optimistic earlier... https://play.google.com/music/listen#/album/Bdnmb5qopzavsipayhabnh56wku/Schandmaul/Leuchtfeuer+(Deluxe) |
| 17:12.37 | Gnarfoz | wha |
| 17:12.41 | Gnarfoz | lol, clipboard fail |
| 17:13.04 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/7wR1Ebz.png |
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| 17:30.07 | Ammako | so much pink |
| 17:30.40 | VIad | Gnarfoz: what for? |
| 17:30.55 | Gnarfoz | VIad: corrupted ashbringer hidden artifact appearance |
| 17:31.40 | VIad | doesnt seem that hidden |
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| 17:35.03 | Seeker` | Blizzard seriously need to get better at resolving issues that cost me time / gold |
| 17:35.48 | ls- | like what? O_o |
| 17:36.54 | Seeker` | Like putting up a buff that says there are 10 days left of an archaeology quest, so I did 18/25 solves last weekend, thinking I'll finish the rest this weekend. On wednesday, the quest vanished and a new one came up. GM response was "yeah, the buff was wrong because we applied it halfway through. You'll have to wait until the quest is offered again" |
| 17:37.01 | VIad | ja ^^ |
| 17:37.13 | Seeker` | There was no mention in the patch notes that the buff would be incorrect for that quest |
| 17:37.29 | VIad | sorry seeker |
| 17:37.44 | Seeker` | Or the bug where the mobile AH displayed something as 835 ilvl, which turned out to be 750 ilvl when I logged in to the game after buying it |
| 17:37.56 | ls- | damn... |
| 17:38.26 | Seeker` | Or the time where they completely wiped my artifact solve history back in MoP and their response was "we have no way of getting the data back, so you'll just have to start again" |
| 17:39.53 | VIad | ate a yoghurt, was deadly hungry. started to bleed again ,_, |
| 17:40.16 | Seeker` | The response to the mobile UI bug was "if you want your gold bakc, you'll have to try and relist it on the AH" |
| 17:40.19 | Seeker` | VIad: what?! |
| 17:40.34 | VIad | stitches in mouth where my wisdomtooth was :p |
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| 17:40.49 | Seeker` | That's slightly less worrying I guess :P |
| 17:41.02 | VIad | I'd not eat at all if I wasn't this hungry |
| 17:42.44 | Seeker` | Imo, the response to "our bug cost you time/gold" should be to give the benefit of the doubt to the player. Like take the item out of my inventory and give me the gold back for the mobile AH UI bug |
| 17:42.56 | Seeker` | Or mark the archaeology quest as completed and give me the reward |
| 17:43.18 | Gnarfoz | VIad: it's not like this is step 1 I'm at. ;P |
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| 17:46.17 | Ammako | apparently you keep the progress on the archaeology quest once it comes back later |
| 17:47.13 | Seeker` | My ticket response made no mention of that |
| 17:47.35 | Ammako | im trying to find the thing again |
| 17:47.43 | foxlit | later: in a couple of months. |
| 17:48.35 | Ammako | pretty much |
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| 17:51.13 | Ammako | i remember seeing a comment on wowhead where someone put in a ticket for it and the GM said the progress would carry over, but i cant seem to find it again |
| 17:51.35 | Ammako | whether the GM was mistaken or not remains to be seen |
| 17:51.54 | Seeker` | Yeah, I don't trust that to be the case |
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| 17:53.08 | Ammako | oh it wasnt on wowhead, was on official forums |
| 17:53.21 | Ammako | explains why i couldnt find it, was looking at the wrong place |
| 17:54.00 | Ammako | guess we'll have to see whenever it shows back up : |
| 17:54.46 | Ammako | kinda dumb though that they seemingly knew it would be incorrect but didn't make a mention of it anywhere |
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| 18:04.13 | jnwhiteh | Guill: So, the secure template is firing my onleave script, but I haven't left =) |
| 18:04.33 | jnwhiteh | http://imgur.com/a/Ezq4P |
| 18:04.42 | jnwhiteh | and I'm not sure how on earth I can handle this case |
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| 18:09.02 | ls- | damn, random DCs on EU are so annoying... |
| 18:09.17 | Miiru | hm my champion equip does not grant me the gold it says it would :/ |
| 18:11.21 | Miiru | the game registers the world q completion, as it says |
| 18:11.21 | Miiru | Champions of Elune completed. |
| 18:11.21 | Miiru | [Arator the Redeemer] has earned 0 xp.but none of the rewards are granted :o |
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| 18:18.20 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: would you be willing to talk something through with me? |
| 18:18.41 | jnwhiteh | for Clique I have some buttons that have a secure script that runs OnEnter in the restricted environment |
| 18:19.06 | jnwhiteh | In this minimal case the script just does self:SetBindingClick(true, "4", self, "cliquebutton4") |
| 18:19.18 | jnwhiteh | i.e. when the key '4' is pressed, trigger a click with button 'cliquebutton4' |
| 18:20.01 | jnwhiteh | This normally works fine, and the binding click is reversed during the OnLeave script |
| 18:22.25 | jnwhiteh | I'm seeing a case where the UI is firing the OnLeave script, and in fact also triggering a hasunit/false header when the mouse is over the frame. This is even observable because the game will actually fire OnLeave twice with no interleaving OnEnter |
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| 18:24.56 | PhatsoTGT | has anyone here tried to disable certain tracking modes yet? |
| 18:31.47 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: well, I seem to be somewhat paranoid about OnEnter/OnLeave not triggering reliably, but I don't think it's a rational thing; don't have any specific examples of them being broken. |
| 18:32.00 | foxlit | hasunit rings no bells; I'm presuming it's your own [@mouseover,exist] driver. |
| 18:32.07 | jnwhiteh | I have a reproducable example in this case =) |
| 18:32.12 | jnwhiteh | Which is blowing my mind.. |
| 18:32.23 | jnwhiteh | and a macro with the same conditional has the correct icon on the action bar and works properly |
| 18:37.58 | Guest79952 | yo Semlar: any updates to Pinlight? else I'll grab all the explorer coords manually :) |
| 18:38.01 | Guest79952 | oh |
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| 18:40.29 | Tomaz^ | lets try that again |
| 18:40.31 | Tomaz^ | yo Semlar: any updates to Pinlight? else I'll grab all the explorer coords manually :) |
| 18:41.35 | foxlit | that's somewhat less surprising, as the client decides when it updates macro resolution, and drivers are ordinary onupdate stuff. |
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| 18:56.37 | Guill | jnwhiteh: Could you post your reproducible case somewhere? The way mouse enter/leaves were handled was changed in Legion, so it's possible there's a bug there on our side. |
| 18:57.42 | jnwhiteh | Guill: it seems like a race condition, actually |
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| 18:57.50 | jnwhiteh | the hasunit state fires before onLeave |
| 18:58.12 | jnwhiteh | Guill: http://pastebin.ca/3723604 |
| 18:58.20 | jnwhiteh | if you rapidly mouse over/off the playerfarme |
| 18:58.23 | jnwhiteh | frame |
| 18:58.31 | jnwhiteh | you'll get the hasunit condition firing before the onleave has |
| 18:59.05 | jnwhiteh | The problem is I need something like the hasunit condition since there are many situations in which we "lose" the mouseover unit due to frames being hidden/shown and so we can't keep the bindings active |
| 18:59.12 | jnwhiteh | this is crucial in some raids, it seems |
| 18:59.19 | jnwhiteh | I'm trying another approach now |
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| 19:04.13 | jnwhiteh | Yeah its very weird, I cannot tell why the mouseover unit is disappearing for a second. |
| 19:07.28 | jnwhiteh | So basically what I need to do is compensate for the fact that a frame's onLeave doesn't fire if another frame appears above it and takes focus (and something similar with frames being shown in combat) |
| 19:07.47 | jnwhiteh | Right now I watch for the "mouseover" unit disappearing, but this is happening while the mouse is still over the frame and the unit is still active |
| 19:08.13 | jnwhiteh | otherwise the existing bindings that have been set get "stuck" and I don't have a good way to clear them |
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| 19:10.01 | jnwhiteh | Bam, I may have figured it out!! |
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| 19:11.11 | Mazzop | hello |
| 19:12.13 | jnwhiteh | Guill: I think I'm going to proxy by checking self:IsUnderMouse() and self:IsShown() |
| 19:12.25 | jnwhiteh | and I think that should cover almost all of the cases that could cause issues |
| 19:14.18 | Mazzop | got quick question about GetTalentInfo and its third parameter, wich supposed to be GetActiveSpecGroup. In 7.0 its always 1, i think, so can just hardcode 1 there? |
| 19:15.14 | Guill | Mazzop: Yup. Ideally that parameter will just be removed at some point, but don't know when. |
| 19:16.01 | Mazzop | was updating my addon from wow 5.0 and changes from 6.0 and 7.0 cumulated to drive me crazy :P |
| 19:16.06 | Mazzop | thanks for answer |
| 19:19.24 | TheDanW | jnwhiteh: is this 7.0.3 or 7.1? |
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| 19:26.16 | Gnarfoz | is there a way to tell which server your group is currently on? |
| 19:26.35 | Gnarfoz | i.e. in a group with people from other realms |
| 19:29.17 | Mazzop | its not always leaders realm? |
| 19:29.43 | Gnarfoz | 7.0 changed lots of things, so that gets an enthusiastic "maybe" |
| 19:30.22 | _relaxok_ | the more I play the more I can't believe how much content they added in legion |
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| 19:30.51 | jnwhiteh | TheDanW: whatever is on live |
| 19:31.02 | TheDanW | 7.0.3 then |
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| 19:32.00 | TheDanW | when you hide/show a region it waits a frame to check whats under the mouse |
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| 19:47.18 | Miiru | TheDanW, did you guys change concerning replacing default textures in the latest ptr patch? The game shows a lot of green textures for me now |
| 19:47.49 | Stanzilla | Miiru: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54305 |
| 19:51.32 | Miiru | does not seem to be related |
| 19:52.07 | Miiru | http://oi67.tinypic.com/2lcmbra.jpg as you can see, some textures laod correctly, and some dont |
| 19:52.40 | Miiru | (they all work fine on live) |
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| 19:55.17 | Miiru | I even tried changing the compression method because I thought maybe they only load now if the compression method of the replacement file is the same one as the default one uses but that is not the case |
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| 19:56.30 | Ammako | tinypic |
| 19:57.56 | Miiru | Ammako, http://boujong.net/greenftw.jpg ;) |
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| 20:03.04 | Stanzilla | oh I did not read teh "ptr" bit |
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| 20:26.21 | TheDanW | Miiru: i think someone fixed a bug with the textures for a different reason, but that may have broken your stuff, i'll see when they're back from lunch |
| 20:27.14 | PhatsoTGT | anyone here got a function on hand that scales regions to certain width and heights? |
| 20:27.34 | Miiru | thank you, in earlier builds it worked so its probably related to that fix |
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| 20:30.51 | PhatsoTGT | -.- |
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| 20:31.56 | PhatsoTGT | So when did blizz decide that 53x53 is a better dimension than 32x32 ? or 64x64 |
| 20:32.15 | PhatsoTGT | i mean thats prolly scaling |
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| 20:32.20 | PhatsoTGT | but more so |
| 20:32.56 | TheDanW | Miiru: appears to be unrelated to that change, to be clear you are replacing the textures by path in your wow folder? |
| 20:34.19 | PhatsoTGT | when did blizzard decide that some buttons should be one big artwork with that adding insult to injury isnt remotely similarly spaced like the other minimapbuttons / regular icons |
| 20:34.58 | Miiru | yes i am TheDanW |
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| 20:35.54 | TheDanW | Miiru: do the textures work if you place them in an addon directory and apply them to a texture with SetTexture? |
| 20:37.25 | Miiru | let me see |
| 20:37.25 | PhatsoTGT | TheDanW judging from the Chat it looks like there must be a way |
| 20:38.35 | TheDanW | PhatsoTGT: must be a way for what? |
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| 20:40.34 | PhatsoTGT | it looked like the an addon replaced the default textures of the scrolling buttons but now that i realize Miiru did achieve to override at least some default textures that still might say nothing |
| 20:41.39 | Xuerian | .. spritesheets have been a thing for a long time? |
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| 20:43.55 | Miiru | oh that is interesting, they dont seem to load from an addon folder either :o |
| 20:44.33 | TheDanW | can you post one of the textures for download somewhere? |
| 20:44.37 | Miiru | and weird at the same time since it's the same textures as on live |
| 20:44.39 | Miiru | sure |
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| 20:45.31 | Miiru | http://boujong.net/UI-Tooltip-Border.blp |
| 20:45.56 | TheDanW | thanks, i'll try to look into it this afternoon |
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| 20:51.55 | Ammako | what could possibly be setting the cameraPivotDXMax CVar to 0 |
| 20:51.58 | Ammako | without me knowing |
| 20:56.05 | Miiru | TheDanW, I just noticed that when I take a non-working .blp, save it as .png and convert it using blpng converter, the file will load fine, however if I save it with the photoshop plugin it will not load. Since I do these replacements since around 2010, this explains why some textures load and some dont. |
| 20:56.35 | TheDanW | its possible that the engine team changed the blp format slightly |
| 20:56.35 | Miiru | for some files at least |
| 20:56.47 | TheDanW | and there may not be a code fix from our end |
| 21:02.43 | Miiru | Yes it seems like i can just reconvert the 'faulty' blp to png and back to blp using a different tool and it'll work fine. |
| 21:03.47 | Miiru | still weird though because they should use the same format |
| 21:03.55 | Ironii | well that was fucking awesome m10 VotW, died, druid used CR on me, DC -> bluescreen -> most of the wtf files was reseted, including WA |
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| 21:05.21 | PhatsoTGT | there should be backups in the wtf folder tho |
| 21:06.14 | PhatsoTGT | jesus |
| 21:06.40 | PhatsoTGT | i hereby declare dalarans merchant bank as a hostile environment towards addon developers |
| 21:07.16 | PhatsoTGT | "Ladies and Gentlemen,feast your eyes....." |
| 21:07.35 | AmiYuy | Ctrl+S |
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| 21:09.35 | Ironii | hmph, didn't think of that, and i used exit game after the dungeon :'< |
| 21:13.36 | Miiru | so I#ll just reconvert the 1000x2 files as a backup solution :D |
| 21:14.10 | zenzelezz | 1000? |
| 21:14.40 | zenzelezz | you're talking count, not resolution? |
| 21:14.47 | Miiru | yes |
| 21:15.00 | Miiru | 985 blp files per color pack |
| 21:15.10 | zenzelezz | from curiosity then, why not just write 2000? |
| 21:15.28 | Miiru | dunno |
| 21:15.34 | Miiru | didnt think about it :D |
| 21:15.59 | Miiru | maybe because New Day Rocks :o |
| 21:18.28 | PhatsoTGT | why is the twitch guy dressing like Bill Nye all of a sudden? |
| 21:19.27 | zenzelezz | because Nyen Cat |
| 21:20.21 | Seeker` | Blizz need to fix the bug where CR DCs you |
| 21:26.20 | zenzelezz | not a bug; you're trading your life for theirs! |
| 21:27.16 | nevcairiel | it disconnects the one you CR, not you |
| 21:27.53 | Seeker` | Yes, I was the one getting CR |
| 21:28.52 | zenzelezz | ... well that's interesting |
| 21:29.00 | zenzelezz | when you cast it, or when they accept it? |
| 21:29.36 | Ammako | must not be a thign that happens every time tho yeah? |
| 21:29.56 | nevcairiel | not everytime, but quite often |
| 21:30.01 | TheDanW | Miiru: so i looked into it, engine added more validations because some of these files are exporting incorrect mip data |
| 21:30.12 | Seeker` | zenzelezz: When they accept it, they DC |
| 21:30.22 | Seeker` | And often log in to find themselves dead again |
| 21:31.13 | TheDanW | your example texture is exported such that mip level 5 is requesting 4294960668 pixels |
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| 21:31.59 | Miiru | TheDanW, I am going to try to contact the author of that photoshop plugin then since it's only the blp created by photoshop which do not load. |
| 21:32.38 | TheDanW | sounds like the best bet |
| 21:33.03 | TheDanW | there's not really much of a reason to have mips in these textures |
| 21:35.22 | Miiru | luckily i still can just use blpng :D |
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| 21:46.54 | Semlar | photoshop can natively create targas so why use blp |
| 21:47.19 | Miiru | because you cannot exchange blp with tga by using the texture swap method :p |
| 21:47.58 | Semlar | as far as i know the game doesn't use the file extension to figure out what type of file it's loading |
| 21:48.42 | Semlar | so if you gave a tga a blp extension it would still load it |
| 21:49.45 | Miiru | interesting idea lets see |
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| 21:54.51 | Miiru | seems to work fine, but it's not really a better solution then saving as png and converting to blp |
| 21:54.57 | TheDanW | i added something in ESO that was basically RedirectTexture(origPath, newPath) it would be nice for wow to have something similar, something else for the list i suppose |
| 21:58.06 | Miiru | if we are at it TheDanW do you know what was the reasoning behind the decision of making the cursor not replaceable anymore by texture swapping? |
| 21:58.53 | TheDanW | i don't think that was an intentional decision, there was work to better support high density displays, part of that was resizing the cursor |
| 21:59.46 | TheDanW | my guess is that changed it in some way that broke it |
| 21:59.48 | Semlar | there's no way to "get" what the cursor is supposed to be displaying, so you can't really replace it with an addon either |
| 22:00.28 | TheDanW | we don't have any problems with adding api to customize cursors, if we have the time |
| 22:00.41 | TheDanW | but texture swapping isn't something that we really try to support |
| 22:03.53 | Miiru | i miss my undead hand :D |
| 22:06.03 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 22:06.38 | Miiru | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9210-CustomCursor-WC3Undead.html |
| 22:06.44 | Miiru | dirty mind you have! |
| 22:08.58 | Thunder_Child | Yes. |
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| 22:32.13 | Ammako | What kind of work was made to better support higher-density displays? Is that meant to be live at the moment? |
| 22:33.04 | nevcairiel | wasnt that for 7.1 |
| 22:33.49 | Ammako | i don't know, I'm asking because people on 4k displays are having a lot of trouble with that at the moment :p |
| 22:34.15 | nevcairiel | if you buy 4k for gaming today, then you should know that you are getting into trouble =p |
| 22:36.43 | TheDanW | Ammako: the support is in 7.1 (ptr currently) |
| 22:37.05 | TheDanW | basically the UI won't be unreadable at 4k |
| 22:37.17 | TheDanW | theres a few cvars that went in with it |
| 22:37.38 | TheDanW | some may be useful even if you don't have 4k |
| 22:37.44 | Ammako | Alright cool |
| 22:40.03 | TheDanW | cvar cursorSizePreferred |
| 22:40.04 | TheDanW | Size of cursor: -1=determine based on system/monitor dpi, 0=32x32, 1=48x48, 2=64x64 |
| 22:40.08 | TheDanW | for example |
| 22:40.20 | Ammako | will let people know so they wont continue complaining that they aren't being heard and nothing is being done |
| 22:40.33 | nevcairiel | dont worry, they will continue anyway |
| 22:40.50 | nevcairiel | because the changes arent enough to m ake them happy |
| 22:41.12 | Ammako | i think the complaints here are legitimate |
| 22:41.20 | zenzelezz | human nature is to complain. If we had nothing to complain about, we would complain about that |
| 22:41.28 | Xuerian | Haha, the illidan AK scenario has been bugged for half the month? |
| 22:41.48 | nevcairiel | which scenario? |
| 22:41.55 | Xuerian | The ravencrest one |
| 22:42.10 | nevcairiel | been a while since i did that one, but it worked then |
| 22:42.20 | TheDanW | worked fine for me |
| 22:42.24 | AmiYuy | I just did that two or three days ago, worked fine. |
| 22:42.24 | Xuerian | Portals gave you mana? |
| 22:42.31 | nevcairiel | didnt try |
| 22:42.34 | nevcairiel | i just suck people dry |
| 22:42.45 | AmiYuy | No, but I assumed they weren't supposed to, that you were supposed to resort to the worst option |
| 22:42.55 | Xuerian | You know, except the dialog that tells you to do it three times |
| 22:43.07 | nevcairiel | it also tells you to use extreme measures if you must |
| 22:43.12 | AmiYuy | It does, which was confusing, but yeah that |
| 22:43.12 | nevcairiel | and i must-ed! |
| 22:43.13 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:43.22 | foxlit | portals restore your health, not mana. |
| 22:43.40 | Xuerian | foxlit: http://i.imgur.com/TaU03Yu.png still a bug |
| 22:43.54 | foxlit | you're just misreading energy as mana instead of health. |
| 22:44.02 | Xuerian | No, I'm really not |
| 22:44.05 | Xuerian | It says that at full health. |
| 22:45.07 | nevcairiel | just eat your people, it spawns you new ones anyway |
| 22:46.16 | foxlit | the BT scenario, on the other hand... |
| 22:46.29 | nevcairiel | that one was super fun |
| 22:46.52 | foxlit | appeared super pointless to me. |
| 22:47.28 | nevcairiel | cant help it if you didnt enjoy killing these silly adventurers |
| 22:47.31 | foxlit | None of the abilities seemed to do anything sigificant, raid NPCs were ignorable, and Maiev beats you with autoattack damage. |
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| 22:48.05 | Gnarfoz | particularly that set of adventurers ^^ |
| 22:49.18 | nevcairiel | most of the fun didnt come from the engaging fight, but just from the entire deal, and the small hilarious details the raid had, from nervous rogues bouncing around everywhere, to snippy chat between all of them |
| 22:49.36 | nevcairiel | i love it, anyway! |
| 22:49.52 | Gnarfoz | and they're all more or less well-known ones, too ;) |
| 22:52.01 | foxlit | Somehow that just clashed with the mood of the rest of the quest line for me. |
| 22:57.39 | Xuerian | Oh, cool. Now the last set of sacrifice minions didn't spawn and I don't get the colossal kill ability |
| 23:06.13 | Semlar | i have got to stop walking out of quest areas while i'm trying to kill an objective |
| 23:06.24 | Semlar | the quest just drops and you get no credit |
| 23:06.27 | Semlar | it's great |
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| 23:22.20 | _relaxok_ | is it just me or are there a lot more quest mechanics than before? |
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| 23:26.58 | Gnarfoz | I'm sure someone will come out and abstract everything far enough to say "same as ever", but I liked it |
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| 23:45.58 | znf | Us tgere a lia lin that does number formatting |
| 23:46.09 | znf | Is there a lua lib that does number formatting? |
| 23:51.19 | mfgmfg | znf, like for localized numbers? |
| 23:51.28 | mckenziemc | string.format? |
| 23:51.39 | znf | I was hoping I don't have to reinvent the wheel :P |
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| 23:52.41 | znf | actually, seems that I will have to reinvent it :P |
| 23:53.20 | znf | it's Gnarfoz's fault again |
