| 00:01.29 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/8ipSKr7.png |
| 00:01.35 | znf | these should be BoA |
| 00:12.29 | Ssateneth | reduces per-character progress then |
| 00:14.59 | znf | ? |
| 00:19.13 | Simca | Guill / TheDanW - found the problem i was having with 7.1. apparently an undoc'd change to how 'OnEnter' works, it requires 'EnableMouse(true)' on the frame in question |
| 00:19.25 | Simca | for OnEnter to trigger from mouseover |
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| 00:26.38 | Simca | I had a frame that I didn't need mouse clicks intercepted on because the frame was just a container for some form fields |
| 00:27.05 | Simca | the frame was never movable by design |
| 00:30.22 | znf | wow, thanks http://i.imgur.com/hQ1MhaY.png |
| 00:46.21 | TheDanW | Simca: that's not intentional, apply an OnEnter script should implicitly enable mouse on the frame |
| 00:46.28 | TheDanW | applying* |
| 00:49.08 | TheDanW | Simca: are you setting the script through XML or Lua? |
| 00:49.14 | Simca | Lua |
| 00:52.00 | TheDanW | Simca: should be fixed in an upcoming ptr build |
| 00:52.15 | Simca | thanks much <3 |
| 00:52.46 | TheDanW | thanks for the report, probably would've broken some of the default UI |
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| 00:59.17 | znf | breaks Simca |
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| 01:03.33 | Torhal | executes znf:EnableMouse(true) |
| 01:03.35 | kd3 | bleh. annoying having to cook dinner after not needing to for almost 3 weeks |
| 01:04.10 | Thunder_Child | Aww, poor kd3. |
| 01:04.22 | mckenziemc | cooks kd3 with a side of Thunder_Child. |
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| 01:14.22 | znf | "Raging" is not fun :( |
| 01:16.47 | Ironii | try necrorotic |
| 01:16.52 | Ironii | awesome. |
| 01:17.02 | Ironii | its even funnier than skittish |
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| 05:07.48 | ccox | If youâre going to have a quest limit, tell me how many !%!#% quests I have, and with the new âmany branchesâ storylines, we kinda need a higher limit |
| 05:12.12 | kd3 | oh wow. an actual veto override |
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| 05:30.02 | mfgmfg | ccox, this is in 7.1: QUEST_LOG_COUNT (New) - Quests: %d / %d |
| 05:30.28 | ccox | mfgmfg: ah, thanks. I havenât had a chance to spend much time on 7.1 yet. |
| 05:30.36 | ccox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.38 | ccox | Right now Iâm trying to talk a frustrated player out of quitting. She doesnât see the quest patterns or how to solve some of them, and ends up repeatedly with a full quest log⦠|
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| 05:58.32 | mfgmfg | Semlar, yeah, mind control is causing retribution to stack |
| 05:58.56 | Semlar | ret master race |
| 06:01.55 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.13 | mfgmfg | Semlar, does your computer freeze like that all the time |
| 06:04.15 | mfgmfg | or is that just the recording |
| 06:04.27 | Semlar | it's just the video |
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| 06:05.18 | Semlar | and i don't know why |
| 06:12.54 | Semlar | either the cpu was getting throttled or the hard drive is having problems |
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| 06:26.12 | _relaxok_ | some of the music in this xpac is genius |
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| 07:24.48 | VIad | _relaxok_: yes |
| 07:28.26 | VIad | znf: I read a reddit on a click sequence :p |
| 07:28.35 | VIad | do you need to do it with the boss or after boss is dead? |
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| 07:35.51 | VIad | it's unfair how warcraft logs are hard to use for tanking evaluation :( if you are the 2nd tank then you get lower score |
| 07:43.43 | nebula | i'm not sure how it work entirely, but it's based on the healing you need while you're actively tanking |
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| 07:44.23 | VIad | I think its hardest to evaluate tank performance, especially in fights with mechanics, obviously the score seems to drop if you are "benched" tank |
| 07:44.51 | VIad | like, if not actively tanking during the fight it gives you lower scores I believe |
| 07:44.57 | nebula | nah |
| 07:45.12 | VIad | last week tank was lazy and I tanked much more, got higher scores than what I got this week by a huge margin |
| 07:45.41 | VIad | this week I was the 2nd tank since I did the bosses with a guild group and they had their own tank so I let him do his thing |
| 07:45.56 | VIad | btw got 2 items that were not upgrades that I traded to other people, yay \o/ |
| 07:46.19 | nebula | like i said, i'm pretty sure it's a function of how much healing you needed. your ilvl bracket might have changed as well |
| 07:46.28 | VIad | the slots I got this week, I got drops last week that got warforged/titanforged so oh well |
| 07:47.03 | VIad | ofc |
| 07:47.17 | VIad | I see a lot of enh shamans these days, they OP? |
| 07:48.46 | znf | More like elemental was not viable |
| 07:49.16 | VIad | the HC charts put enh on the top of the dps |
| 07:49.37 | VIad | with frost performing like 50% of what the enh does so huge difference :D |
| 07:51.30 | VIad | I have to admit that the blood heal mechanic is better than the DH, DH is back to old DK tank: yoyo simulator |
| 07:52.08 | VIad | problem is the ability that drops the heal globes, require another ability to pick them up at once, and there is some animation as the heal globes drop, so you usually get healed by a healer when you actually want to heal yourself :p |
| 07:52.37 | VIad | not to mention it is a dps loss if you just wait for the opportunity to heal, you'd be at 100 pain just waiting... |
| 07:53.09 | VIad | so often you use the heal loot ability at 100 pain and stack more, but often the damage doesnt happen at the ideal moments so healers get the yoyo effect |
| 07:53.34 | VIad | I miss the old talent from the beta, it was a passive, just made you get a shield from overheals you did to yourself |
| 07:53.41 | VIad | it would probably help mitigate thos yoyo behavior |
| 07:54.05 | VIad | soul barrier was passive and just made your heal ability add shield for the overheal, now its a really bad temporary long cooldown thing :/ |
| 07:54.19 | VIad | "bad" it's better than the other options I guess, but not as good as the beta passive |
| 07:56.45 | VIad | BIS tank atm anyway is warrior :p |
| 07:56.55 | nevcairiel | they are nerfing warriors |
| 07:57.01 | VIad | looking at the logs they are on top of the chart by insane margins |
| 07:57.02 | nevcairiel | because their cooldown things is too broken |
| 07:57.13 | VIad | but it's useless since they already cleared first tier :p |
| 07:57.20 | VIad | I guess they prepare for 2nd tier |
| 07:57.23 | VIad | with their nerf |
| 07:57.38 | nevcairiel | noone cares about first tier anyway |
| 07:57.44 | VIad | it was fun though |
| 07:58.07 | VIad | I messed up on xavius yesterday, I absorbed too much corruption when I wasnt put in the dream :( |
| 07:58.19 | VIad | because I saw a lot of pools not getting properly soaked up when the adds died |
| 07:58.32 | VIad | so at 20% I got MCed:< |
| 07:58.40 | VIad | but it worked out fine, bear tanks are good :p |
| 07:58.57 | VIad | had a CR waiting in case so I could accept and tank it for those 20 seconds before I got MCed again |
| 07:59.04 | nevcairiel | bears have a lot of cooldowns to stack |
| 07:59.10 | VIad | yeah |
| 07:59.24 | VIad | with poor rage income it felt horrible so I didnt even consider going back to my druid :p |
| 07:59.32 | VIad | but I guess rage is plenty in raids |
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| 08:00.05 | nevcairiel | its usually fine on bosses, and i didnt even spec into the highest rage gen talents |
| 08:00.26 | VIad | btw the "fastest kill" timer on wowprogress is that like total tries? |
| 08:00.31 | VIad | or the fight took 160 minutes :p |
| 08:00.38 | nevcairiel | its time since the boss before it |
| 08:00.42 | nevcairiel | but its kinda broken sometimes |
| 08:00.43 | VIad | aha |
| 08:01.37 | nevcairiel | it said like 132 minutes for our cenarius last night, but thats about the time since the start of the raid, not the last boss before it =p |
| 08:01.44 | VIad | :d |
| 08:02.15 | VIad | poor warcraftlogs, the russian guild didnt upload it to the site :p |
| 08:02.21 | VIad | maybe its worldofwarcraftlogs whatever the name |
| 08:02.29 | nevcairiel | need to hide their exploits |
| 08:02.33 | VIad | :p |
| 08:02.42 | VIad | warrior tanks? |
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| 08:03.03 | VIad | no logs on worldoflogs either |
| 08:03.29 | nevcairiel | worldoflogs still exists? =p |
| 08:03.33 | VIad | yeah it does |
| 08:03.57 | VIad | xavius has a lot of shadowpriests on the "top dps" lists |
| 08:03.59 | VIad | I wonder why... |
| 08:04.11 | VIad | 600k dps shadowpriest, np, dot all the adds |
| 08:06.48 | VIad | maybe engineering bombs cleared corruption |
| 08:06.53 | VIad | thats why no logs are uploaded yet |
| 08:08.10 | VIad | there is a retribution aura bug some exploit for dps buff it seems |
| 08:10.45 | VIad | I need my legendary ring asap, 15%leech with my active mitigation, thats a lot of self healing on top when I need it :d |
| 08:11.03 | VIad | all the top DH tanks have it equipped and are on the top lists :p |
| 08:12.56 | nevcairiel | 15% leech isnt that much |
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| 08:13.10 | VIad | it's a small buff, better than the other legendaries one can argue |
| 08:13.17 | VIad | since it's permanent and controllable |
| 08:13.27 | nevcairiel | might be enough to push you up in the list, but in the grand scheme of healing, 15% of 150k dps just isnt that much hps |
| 08:13.57 | VIad | sure. trinkets seem very important. they all use passive trinkets with interesting effects :p |
| 08:14.23 | VIad | parjesh's medallion is a major one |
| 08:14.32 | VIad | <35% hp you get a lot of hp and mastery buff for 12 sec |
| 08:14.39 | VIad | each 1.5 min |
| 08:14.45 | VIad | so it's a nice safety net |
| 08:14.46 | Miiru | are textures bugged on the ptr? I have green squares everywhere :S |
| 08:16.09 | VIad | how is the game balanced on xavius if you run 10 man group? |
| 08:16.14 | VIad | corruption is the same |
| 08:16.36 | VIad | with the expected ilvl on xavius, can you even do it 10 man? |
| 08:16.59 | VIad | without your healers being mindcontrolled |
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| 08:18.16 | Snowkrim | Hi, anyone know how can I edit colors in Lua that appear like this: 0.41, -- [1] |
| 08:18.16 | Snowkrim | 0.8, -- [2] |
| 08:18.16 | Snowkrim | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:18.32 | VIad | that's rgb from 0-1 instead of 0-255 |
| 08:18.42 | Snowkrim | o |
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| 08:19.09 | VIad | enough info or need more? :p |
| 08:19.33 | Snowkrim | I can't really find any color picker online that works on 0-1 >< |
| 08:19.41 | VIad | just divide by 255 |
| 08:19.42 | Snowkrim | Just wanna edit some addon real quick cause the colors are killing my eyes |
| 08:19.46 | Snowkrim | oh right |
| 08:19.46 | VIad | 128/255 |
| 08:19.47 | Snowkrim | lol |
| 08:19.51 | Snowkrim | oke thanks! |
| 08:21.44 | VIad | yeah nevcairiel, I think in general the raid setup itself will affect the tank score :p |
| 08:23.02 | Snowkrim | VIad: you happen to use the Details! addon maybe? (DPS meter) |
| 08:23.07 | VIad | yes |
| 08:23.32 | Snowkrim | I already wrote to the author, but I wonder if I'm being stupid as hell, |
| 08:23.39 | Snowkrim | I switch from effective time measure to activity |
| 08:23.43 | Snowkrim | nothing changes, it's bugged or? |
| 08:23.56 | Snowkrim | at least not on target dummies it doesn't change, DPS still decaying even though I am inactive |
| 08:24.14 | Snowkrim | seems to be stuck on the time measure I selected with quick setup wizard |
| 08:24.59 | VIad | I am a bit unsure, I dont usually use it to analyze fights like that, I dont find meters reliable enough, so I often warcraftlogs on the side if I want to know details after wipes :p |
| 08:26.56 | Snowkrim | ah, k. Just wanted to use activity time since (since I primarily pvp) and it seems to be hella bugged. what's more weird is that the savedvariables contains this; ["force_activity_time_pvp"] = true, and that seemingly does nothing either cause in pvp it's still ticking down as if it's on effective time |
| 08:27.30 | Snowkrim | ah well I'll see what he says just wanted to make sure I'm not being stupid (which I probably am idk) |
| 08:28.07 | _Kee | Snowkrim There are 2 time measure modes: activity and effective. |
| 08:29.11 | Snowkrim | ya I know, the problem is switching between the two seemingly does not work |
| 08:29.19 | Snowkrim | at least from what I've tested on arena dummies |
| 08:29.51 | Snowkrim | I think it stays stuck on what you've picked on the quick setup wizard, the actual option in the Display menu does nothing for me |
| 08:29.56 | Snowkrim | target dummies* sorry |
| 08:30.52 | Snowkrim | as I understand it, activity time, means DPS will stop decaying (freeze) if the unit is not active. still ticking down for me. |
| 08:31.12 | Snowkrim | Damage Done - Current Segment window |
| 08:31.25 | Snowkrim | I have auto switch to current enabled, idk if that might be interfering with anything |
| 08:32.01 | _Kee | Any information when [pvptalent] macro conditional will be fixed? |
| 08:35.31 | _Kee | Snowkrim I am using Effective measure mode and it divides damage done per encounter time, Activity divides damage done by time you participated in fight (ie will stop when you die). |
| 08:36.35 | Snowkrim | that's how I thought it works too, but these options in the menu seemingly do not work for me even after a reinstall |
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| 08:37.16 | Snowkrim | it's just all sorts of weird, I select effective time, DPS meter does not move in combat (even with fastest update time 0.05), then as soon as I leave combat it shows the actual real value |
| 08:37.26 | Snowkrim | no idea |
| 08:37.50 | Snowkrim | think it's something to do with current segment being selected and dummies not being counted into overall damage, idk |
| 08:38.24 | Shockah|Work | fucking hell |
| 08:38.31 | Shockah|Work | my sister got a legendary... |
| 08:38.33 | Shockah|Work | she doesn't raid... |
| 08:38.35 | Shockah|Work | bleh |
| 08:42.12 | nevcairiel | why cant you just be happy for other people |
| 08:43.02 | Shockah|Work | i would be happy if they would benefit from those items |
| 08:43.05 | Shockah|Work | but they won't |
| 08:43.11 | Shockah|Work | at least she won't |
| 08:43.28 | Shockah|Work | she's not even doing mythic dungeons |
| 08:43.32 | Shockah|Work | so it doesn't help her at all |
| 08:44.06 | Miiru | HULK SMASH http://oi67.tinypic.com/2lcmbra.jpg |
| 08:44.16 | Shockah|Work | lol green textures |
| 08:46.57 | Miiru | must have changed something but cant figure out what |
| 08:47.07 | Miiru | some textures replace fine, some dont |
| 08:51.20 | VIad | Shockah|Work: does your sister enjoy your suffering? |
| 08:51.28 | Snowkrim | Anyone know an alternative to: https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/kingkongframefader ? |
| 08:51.37 | Shockah|Work | she does :C |
| 08:51.41 | Snowkrim | This one is way too heavy on the CPU for some reason |
| 08:51.44 | VIad | that's good. tell her she is doing a good job. |
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| 09:20.12 | bluspacecow | http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/09/botnet-of-145k-cameras-reportedly-deliver-internets-biggest-ddos-ever/?comments=1 |
| 09:20.14 | bluspacecow | scary |
| 09:23.38 | VIad | can google shield withstand such traffic? |
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| 09:37.50 | Phixion | akamai didnt :) |
| 09:37.57 | Phixion | or didnt want to |
| 09:38.42 | VIad | are they under google shield though? |
| 09:40.59 | Phixion | I was refering to brian krebs which akamai kicked out of their ddos protection thingy |
| 09:41.23 | Phixion | https://twitter.com/briankrebs/status/779062433902170112 |
| 09:42.11 | Alram | cloudflare would probably handle it |
| 09:43.51 | Phixion | yeah probably |
| 09:46.13 | Phixion | he was blogging about $200k/year for ddos protection in this scale, thats quite some money for a journalist |
| 09:46.32 | VIad | why was he hicked out? |
| 09:46.43 | VIad | he did a poor job? |
| 09:47.31 | Phixion | akamai removed his site from their ddos protection |
| 09:47.39 | Phixion | is what I meant with being kicked out |
| 09:48.17 | Phixion | they did for free tho |
| 09:51.50 | Gnarfoz | mfgmfg:Â mind control? retribution? last I checked, nobody actually knows what the bug is. there's also no mind control on several of the fights where the damage increase was observed |
| 09:52.16 | nevcairiel | I'm sure some have figured out how to reliably exploit it |
| 09:53.01 | znf | Melees are damn insane in arenas |
| 09:53.46 | Gnarfoz | the other melees I melted last night would agree |
| 09:54.27 | Gnarfoz | won 10/11 games, not sure what the team we lost against was |
| 09:54.29 | nebula | nerf Gnarfoz |
| 09:54.35 | Gnarfoz | pala tank and something else, I think |
| 09:54.50 | nevcairiel | the only way to deal with melees is to get away from them |
| 09:54.59 | Gnarfoz | RUN AWAY, LITTLE GIRL |
| 09:57.02 | znf | can't cast shit :P |
| 10:03.43 | znf | it's just bullshit that are are spells that hit for 600k++ in arenas |
| 10:04.02 | znf | looking at moonkins' full moon and rogues' eviscerate |
| 10:06.29 | Gnarfoz | those evil melee moonkins |
| 10:06.46 | znf | that's another thing :P |
| 10:07.02 | znf | against melee, it's like - damage done: 50k |
| 10:07.24 | znf | :D |
| 10:09.17 | VIad | gl getting away from hunter with 10000 mastery |
| 10:09.21 | VIad | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 10:09.32 | nevcairiel | spells that require substantial buildup are fine doing a big hit |
| 10:09.46 | nevcairiel | like the moon thing, you can just press that out on demand, you need to actually build that up |
| 10:10.21 | Shockah|Work | but you can be CC'd |
| 10:10.29 | Shockah|Work | and then Full Moon'd |
| 10:10.31 | znf | ^ |
| 10:10.45 | znf | the melee guy was on me, silencing the shit out of me, moonkin just pewpew |
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| 10:10.50 | Shockah|Work | i was a victim of a sleep Full Moon combo |
| 10:10.52 | nevcairiel | if you cant fight against a several seconds build up and sit in CC all the time, only you are to blame |
| 10:11.12 | nevcairiel | you are not alone in there, you know |
| 10:11.42 | nevcairiel | there is several casters that you should never just leave alone casting, because they build up so much momentum |
| 10:12.27 | VIad | monks had a talent called momentum, but it wasnt that dangerous |
| 10:14.31 | znf | think I've won 2/6 now |
| 10:14.46 | VIad | won what, znf? |
| 10:14.49 | znf | arenas |
| 10:14.52 | VIad | aha |
| 10:14.54 | VIad | ah right arena thing |
| 10:14.56 | znf | the 2 were against casters :D |
| 10:15.09 | nevcairiel | also if your class isnt that good in arenas, dont do 2s, but go 3s |
| 10:15.24 | VIad | blood is kiteable, so 3s would be better |
| 10:15.29 | VIad | or 5s |
| 10:15.35 | VIad | 5 tanks oh jesus |
| 10:15.38 | nevcairiel | didnt they get rid of 5s |
| 10:15.40 | Shockah|Work | ^ |
| 10:15.43 | VIad | RIP |
| 10:16.00 | VIad | we got pvp templates guys! lets get rid of 5 because its too hard to balance >_> |
| 10:16.15 | VIad | should be easier to balance now with pvp templates :p |
| 10:16.27 | nebula | wasn't really about balance, no one did 5s |
| 10:16.43 | znf | nevcairiel, I just do the skirmish |
| 10:16.52 | VIad | no one did 5s? wasnt that the "goal" |
| 10:16.54 | nevcairiel | 3 is the magic number for arenas, 2s are usually too unbalanced between classes |
| 10:17.02 | VIad | what about 4s? |
| 10:17.06 | nevcairiel | znf: then find two friends and ensure you get into 3 |
| 10:17.09 | nevcairiel | no such thing |
| 10:17.17 | znf | I don't have friends! :D |
| 10:17.22 | VIad | would replacing 5 with 4 be a huge problem? |
| 10:18.35 | nevcairiel | skirmish 3s will always put you in with one healer, 2s always without a healer, so when running random skirmish that can make a lot of difference |
| 10:19.11 | VIad | we need a 1v1 arena where score rewarded depends on the meta. like if everyone does WW monks because its the best, the scores would nerf the amount of benefit you get if you win, to motivate people to spread out and not stack one class because the numbers says its good :d |
| 10:19.41 | nevcairiel | 1v1 will never be any fun, so many combinations that just dont work |
| 10:19.55 | VIad | its like /duel only serious |
| 10:20.16 | VIad | what about some FFA modes? |
| 10:20.22 | VIad | ffa arena :d |
| 10:20.23 | znf | we have arenas |
| 10:20.28 | znf | go do blackrook hold |
| 10:20.32 | nevcairiel | you can just jump into an ffa arena if you want that |
| 10:20.45 | VIad | but I can't just click a button from dalaran and enter in 30 seconds |
| 10:20.58 | nevcairiel | in 30 seconds you can probably fly there from dalaran =p |
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| 10:21.11 | VIad | maybe 30 nevcairiel seconds |
| 10:21.42 | VIad | I did some of that for WQ, was okay. but messy because people keep entering/leaving |
| 10:21.54 | VIad | better if you had X people, fight, game ends when 1 lives |
| 10:22.06 | nevcairiel | its full ffa =p |
| 10:22.31 | nevcairiel | i enjoy the murloc one, always hunt the murlocs and kill them |
| 10:22.39 | VIad | :d |
| 10:22.54 | nevcairiel | stun them right after their protective bubble expires and two hit them or so |
| 10:22.55 | VIad | when I did that I just run away from people and eventually very few did pvp |
| 10:22.58 | nebula | how do you turn into the murlocs? i can never burst them down fast enough |
| 10:22.59 | VIad | it was mostly a game of tag the npcs |
| 10:23.10 | nevcairiel | there is some shiny pearl you click |
| 10:23.25 | nevcairiel | the murlocs have only like 600k hp or so |
| 10:23.37 | nevcairiel | and you have like a 5 second window to kill them in between their bubble cooldowns |
| 10:23.44 | nebula | ah |
| 10:24.10 | VIad | how does the pvp community feel about no new BG for another expansion in a row though? |
| 10:24.19 | VIad | ashran doesnt count imo |
| 10:24.28 | VIad | so thats why I said another expansion in a row :p |
| 10:24.45 | nevcairiel | the thing about pvp is that their content doesn't get "useless" if a new expansion starts |
| 10:24.46 | VIad | ashran was, enter it after 2 hour queue, zerg the designated area |
| 10:24.54 | znf | <nevcairiel> stun them right after their protective bubble expires and two hit them or so |
| 10:24.54 | znf | ?! |
| 10:24.55 | VIad | no but it would be fun with new pvp ideas |
| 10:24.58 | znf | how are they NOT running away? |
| 10:25.07 | znf | I bubble and gtfo |
| 10:25.07 | nevcairiel | i am fast, okay? |
| 10:25.08 | VIad | like new bg games |
| 10:25.16 | nevcairiel | i have sprint and charge |
| 10:25.18 | nevcairiel | i can follow them |
| 10:25.20 | znf | especially since you can cast from 45y away |
| 10:25.21 | VIad | I have 80 yards charge |
| 10:25.34 | Semlar | i just one shot everyone |
| 10:25.35 | VIad | 2x 40yd click to jump ability |
| 10:25.43 | VIad | duel me, Semlar |
| 10:25.59 | nevcairiel | and most murloc dudes get too cocky anyway, circle you in their bubble or something |
| 10:26.02 | Semlar | are you kidding, hunters are absolute trash in pvp |
| 10:26.07 | nevcairiel | so just charge and root them when it expires and kill |
| 10:26.51 | Semlar | i don't think you actually could conceivably lose a 1v1 against a hunter as a dk |
| 10:27.03 | Semlar | you could make a castrandom macro and win |
| 10:28.01 | VIad | I am a DH now so less good self healing, but got mobility though |
| 10:28.31 | VIad | usually in world pvp I notice tanks just avoiding each other because its too much work |
| 10:28.48 | VIad | like if I run past some pvp action and its not many people, they might try go for me and give up |
| 10:29.01 | VIad | especially if its another tank ganking, we dont bother |
| 10:29.04 | nevcairiel | as a bear i have like 3.6m life, it just takes a while to bring me down |
| 10:29.14 | VIad | but you can escape |
| 10:29.20 | VIad | and they know it |
| 10:29.26 | VIad | so a lot of work for nothing |
| 10:29.29 | znf | tank DHs are insane in pvP |
| 10:29.33 | znf | literally unkillable |
| 10:29.47 | znf | this has been going on forever now http://i.imgur.com/JSXiHxv.png |
| 10:29.48 | nevcairiel | i can usually take two players solo as well |
| 10:30.07 | VIad | but I've been pvped by a level 50 pvper |
| 10:30.10 | VIad | a dps DH |
| 10:30.11 | nevcairiel | unless they have healing, then its just not worth it |
| 10:30.12 | VIad | it was different :p |
| 10:30.20 | VIad | he had a lot of mobility and abilities to counter me well |
| 10:30.34 | VIad | so I couldn't escape either, even with my 80 yards charging :p |
| 10:31.03 | znf | oh god |
| 10:31.06 | znf | this is still going on |
| 10:31.12 | znf | shadow can heal every minute for most of its hp |
| 10:31.17 | nevcairiel | its always fun when i'm herbing and come across a friendly warden tower and see a lone hordler trying to do the WQ |
| 10:31.22 | znf | tank never drops below 1.9mil |
| 10:31.23 | VIad | there is a arena -% healing debuff |
| 10:31.31 | znf | I know |
| 10:31.37 | znf | it's at 21% now |
| 10:31.46 | VIad | I find that kind of lame when you play a tank based on self healing |
| 10:31.48 | VIad | and it doesn't work :p |
| 10:32.00 | VIad | its probably there to stop designated healers from fighting indefinetly |
| 10:32.18 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/dEZY9AB.png |
| 10:32.38 | znf | notice how the tank did more self-healing |
| 10:33.05 | nevcairiel | you are shadows, not healers, so dont complain =p |
| 10:34.11 | VIad | bloods atm self heal more than DH |
| 10:34.12 | znf | ...he's a tank, not a healer |
| 10:34.14 | znf | >_< |
| 10:34.22 | VIad | unsure how druids are, maybe more mitigation focused? |
| 10:34.29 | znf | much hp |
| 10:34.34 | znf | very dodge |
| 10:34.41 | VIad | frenzy was nerfed so badly in mop I have always considered a crap self heal since |
| 10:34.56 | nevcairiel | frenzied regen was super strong in hfc |
| 10:35.04 | nevcairiel | i often healed more then some healers, on certain fights |
| 10:35.06 | VIad | after a ton of hotfixed so druids didnt suck |
| 10:35.34 | VIad | I abandoned druid since cata actually, I enjoyed it more when you had bear+cat talent spec and you mixed based on what you wanted |
| 10:35.47 | znf | ^ |
| 10:35.47 | VIad | with the 4thtalent it became too specialized in one thing to be fun :( |
| 10:35.48 | znf | indeed |
| 10:35.50 | znf | bearcat was awesome |
| 10:35.51 | VIad | I loved to swap between |
| 10:36.00 | VIad | I was pretty good going the right form in the right situation |
| 10:36.02 | nevcairiel | but these days its all about mitigation, frenzied regen can be strong but its on a medium cooldown and requires appropriate damage patterns to scale properly |
| 10:36.06 | VIad | cat+tankgear wasnt OP anyways |
| 10:36.25 | znf | no, but it just allowed you to go tank and save the day if the tank went poop |
| 10:36.26 | VIad | so it kind of worked, you sacrificed talents to buff tanking, but maybe drop some tanking stuff to get some extra cat in there when you OT |
| 10:36.38 | nevcairiel | playing bearcat is actually a thing again if you want to top dps numbers |
| 10:36.40 | VIad | maybe, I didnt feel that cat players as bear survived that well |
| 10:37.00 | nevcairiel | i'm too lazy tho |
| 10:37.01 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 10:37.26 | znf | nevcairiel, you mean the affinity? |
| 10:37.44 | znf | doesn't seem to be that strong |
| 10:38.10 | nevcairiel | yes, when not currently actively tanking you can go cat on the boss |
| 10:38.33 | znf | ah |
| 10:38.39 | VIad | ^ |
| 10:38.40 | nevcairiel | if you then mix it up properly, use up all energy can go back bear, do bear stuff until energy is back up, and repeat |
| 10:38.43 | znf | was thinking the other way around |
| 10:39.07 | nevcairiel | "cat-weaving" =p |
| 10:39.13 | VIad | NO |
| 10:39.17 | VIad | bad nevcairiel, dont use that language |
| 10:39.30 | VIad | bearcat or catbear is the only valid name for it |
| 10:39.42 | znf | the Shadow template needs more haste :-/ |
| 10:42.18 | znf | nevcairiel, explain me something |
| 10:42.21 | znf | for about a split second |
| 10:42.28 | znf | when I join an arena, the arena frames show me the name and hp |
| 10:42.33 | znf | then they go to "unknown/offline" |
| 10:42.35 | znf | why's that? |
| 10:42.46 | nevcairiel | who knows, probably the game being broken |
| 10:43.15 | Gnarfoz | znf:Â I'll explain you something: it's "explain something to me" :P |
| 10:44.44 | znf | who tought it's a good idea to change spec icons for rogues |
| 10:48.57 | Gnarfoz | probably someone who thought that icons that made sense 12 years ago could use an update |
| 10:49.59 | znf | that sword icon tells me nothing :D |
| 10:50.02 | znf | or, spade |
| 10:50.04 | znf | whatever that is |
| 10:50.17 | nevcairiel | its outlaw |
| 10:50.20 | nevcairiel | the entire spec changed |
| 10:50.59 | Gnarfoz | yeah, new spec, combat doesn't exist anymore |
| 10:51.00 | znf | oh, I won 10 matches |
| 10:51.02 | znf | why am I doing this |
| 10:51.10 | Gnarfoz | so technically, no change. :P |
| 10:51.26 | Gnarfoz | znf:Â because of the legendary that's waiting in the box you get for doing the quest ;) |
| 10:53.10 | znf | wait, half-moon can't be interrupted?! |
| 10:53.11 | znf | wtf |
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| 10:54.51 | znf | yes, Gnarfoz, legendary http://i.imgur.com/bvb4Uog.png |
| 10:55.17 | nevcairiel | TheDanW: GetBuildInfo return 4 still says 70000 on the PTR, intended? forgotten? |
| 10:55.48 | Gnarfoz | znf:Â yup, that's what my legendaries look like, too. all 0 of them. |
| 10:55.58 | Gnarfoz | in 14 days, I'll even be able to wear 2 of them at the same time |
| 10:56.13 | Alram | 2 x 0 is still 0 Gnarfoz |
| 10:56.16 | Gnarfoz | can barely wait |
| 10:56.23 | Gnarfoz | Alram:Â no way? |
| 10:56.25 | znf | I know, right? |
| 10:56.29 | Alram | way |
| 10:56.32 | Alram | i just did the math |
| 10:56.33 | Gnarfoz | I bow to your superior math |
| 10:56.44 | Alram | you see |
| 10:56.46 | Alram | i took a pack of cookies |
| 10:56.48 | Alram | i ate all of them |
| 10:56.55 | znf | http://eu.banggood.com/Wholesale-Warehouse-BlitzWolf-2_1A-Reversible-Braided-Micro-USB-Cable-Double-Sided-USB-A-Male-to-Double-Sided-Micro-1m-wp-Eu-1028519.html |
| 10:56.58 | Alram | and then multiplied the remaining cookies by 2 |
| 10:56.59 | znf | reversible microUSB? O.o |
| 10:57.14 | Gnarfoz | znf:Â uhm... https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/micflip-world-s-first-reversible-micro-usb-charger |
| 10:57.29 | znf | cool |
| 10:57.40 | Gnarfoz | that looks like a clone of it ;) |
| 10:59.08 | znf | that also looks like a $30 microUSB cable that will last me almost 2 months |
| 10:59.31 | Gnarfoz | maybe if you weren't drunk all the time, you wouldn't break so many things? :P |
| 10:59.35 | bluspacecow | *plugs znf into the wall* |
| 10:59.42 | bluspacecow | *upside down* |
| 11:00.34 | Gnarfoz | hm, I got 2 for 18$ |
| 11:00.45 | Gnarfoz | price has gone up apparently? or is it a waaaay longer version ^^ |
| 11:01.51 | VIad | are mark of honor even easily obtainable? the legacy shit costs so much :p |
| 11:02.02 | VIad | if you actively pvp, how is the average income of these? |
| 11:02.27 | bluspacecow | 1 dolla |
| 11:02.37 | Gnarfoz | about three fiddy |
| 11:02.58 | znf | huh |
| 11:03.04 | znf | they nerfed the murlocs |
| 11:03.15 | Gnarfoz | yes, a while ago |
| 11:03.18 | Gnarfoz | 100k dmg now :D |
| 11:03.21 | Gnarfoz | pretty useless |
| 11:04.08 | znf | wtf is the point of it, then? |
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| 11:07.16 | Semlar | what's the difference between a red and a yellow flight point |
| 11:07.43 | VIad | neutral and horde? maybe |
| 11:07.59 | Semlar | do alliance have blue flight points? |
| 11:08.10 | VIad | you said red and yellow ,_, |
| 11:08.16 | VIad | I think alliance is blue yes |
| 11:08.18 | VIad | thats what I recall |
| 11:08.36 | VIad | since I am alliance I dont often pay too close attention to them ofc, but I notice the yellow once :p |
| 11:08.37 | nebula | lo, yes Semlar |
| 11:09.01 | znf | most of them are yellow in Legion |
| 11:09.03 | znf | except in Stormheim |
| 11:09.44 | Semlar | is there a way to check whether you know a flight point without actually having the flight map open |
| 11:10.15 | Semlar | the taxi api doesn't seem to work without talking to a flight master |
| 11:11.19 | Gnarfoz | Semlar:Â get with the times man, use the Uber API. |
| 11:11.44 | znf | Isn't the whistle something like uber? :D |
| 11:12.19 | Gnarfoz | tbh, the whistle is more like an actual taxi and the taxis are more like single-passenger trains or buses |
| 11:12.40 | VIad | Semlar: even the new GetAllTaxiNodes type API? |
| 11:13.18 | znf | I'm bummed that they nerfed the murloc :( |
| 11:13.22 | znf | that was the only fun of that quest |
| 11:15.43 | Gnarfoz | well, now you get to blow up people who haven't realized turning into a murloc is now a death sentence |
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| 11:17.22 | znf | don't really get the nerf - it's always a high risk to go murloc |
| 11:17.26 | znf | (getting 2-shot) |
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| 11:18.03 | nebula | the few times i've gone to that one, there was always like ~5 murlocs moving around in a group murdering everyone |
| 11:18.12 | znf | hence the fun |
| 11:18.12 | znf | :D |
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| 11:23.33 | znf | why am I not surprised that the reversible cable is only available in pink? |
| 11:23.58 | Gnarfoz | I have one in gold and two in red |
| 11:24.07 | znf | the chinese knock-off, I mean |
| 11:24.30 | znf | ok, question |
| 11:24.34 | znf | why is everyone getting raid missions? |
| 11:24.36 | znf | and I'm not? |
| 11:24.57 | nebula | do you have no followers 830+? |
| 11:25.16 | znf | most are 850 |
| 11:25.32 | nebula | dunno, i got one for EN a few days after it opened |
| 11:28.12 | foxlit | znf: you already raided EN this week? |
| 11:28.28 | znf | this week, no |
| 11:28.30 | znf | last week, yes |
| 11:28.57 | foxlit | iirc its a 14day reset. |
| 11:29.09 | znf | but I never got the mission :-| |
| 11:29.17 | znf | neither this week or last week |
| 11:29.55 | Seeker` | I want to know what happened to my archaeology quest. I was doing it at the weekend and I had a "10d left" buff. Logged in on wednesday and it was gone |
| 11:30.05 | Seeker` | After I'd done 18/25 artifacts |
| 11:30.26 | foxlit | what buff? |
| 11:30.52 | nevcairiel | didnt the two weeks expire |
| 11:32.58 | Seeker` | A new Archaeology Quests aura is now displayed while youâre on an Archaeology quest in your current zone. |
| 11:33.01 | Seeker` | Developersâ Notes: This is to make sure youâre aware of how many days you have left to complete a large Archaeology project before it expires. Weâre investigating ways to provide this in the quest tracker and quest log. |
| 11:33.10 | Seeker` | Sept 23 hotfixes |
| 11:33.16 | Shockah|Work | same here Seeker` |
| 11:33.21 | Shockah|Work | had 7 days left |
| 11:33.27 | Shockah|Work | and then wednesday happened |
| 11:33.33 | Shockah|Work | and i've lost the old quest and got a new one... |
| 11:33.47 | Seeker` | I'd have finished it sooner if they hadn't lied about it |
| 11:33.47 | Shockah|Work | also got a new timer |
| 11:33.51 | Shockah|Work | same |
| 11:33.58 | foxlit | annoyingly, this week's highmountain isn't the moose :( |
| 11:34.34 | Gnarfoz | moo |
| 11:34.36 | Seeker` | I'm incredibly close to never doing archaeology again. I was one of the people they managed to wipe the solving history for back in MoP, which was bad enough |
| 11:34.54 | VIad | what there are EN raid quests, wtf? |
| 11:35.05 | Seeker` | VIad: from follower mission |
| 11:35.05 | VIad | I only have my artifact/classhall thing in there, nothing else |
| 11:35.10 | VIad | yeah |
| 11:35.16 | VIad | I havent gotten that yet :/ |
| 11:35.28 | VIad | can I do it even if I cleared normal EN? |
| 11:36.59 | VIad | I am still gearing up followers, so annoying that I dont get ilvl upgrades for my followers, I keep getting junk equipment or gold missions |
| 11:37.05 | Gnarfoz | since you have to loot things from and kill bosses, probably not |
| 11:37.06 | VIad | I fucking hate gold missions, total waste of my time |
| 11:37.11 | VIad | fucking hell |
| 11:37.14 | Gnarfoz | (depending on which quest you're talking about, that might be wrong) |
| 11:37.31 | VIad | if you have a week lockout and you MAY get a follower quest on sunday, thats bshit |
| 11:39.50 | Gnarfoz | I hope you're also crying about mythic dungeons + their world quests, then |
| 11:40.14 | Gnarfoz | do dungeon on reset day, get dungeon WQ 2 days later |
| 11:40.22 | znf | so? it's not like they expirel... |
| 11:40.24 | VIad | LOL |
| 11:40.30 | Gnarfoz | they actually do, znf :p |
| 11:40.36 | Gnarfoz | the raid quests don't, however |
| 11:40.45 | VIad | you can get WQ for mythic mode only? |
| 11:40.46 | Gnarfoz | so it's actually far worse for WQs |
| 11:40.48 | znf | Gnarfoz, ? |
| 11:40.55 | znf | I meant the mission quests |
| 11:41.00 | VIad | ah yes |
| 11:41.02 | bluspacecow | ! |
| 11:41.05 | VIad | but once you get the quest it doesnt expire |
| 11:41.07 | znf | you were talking about WQs |
| 11:41.07 | znf | sorry |
| 11:41.08 | bluspacecow | I has a lightbulb! |
| 11:41.12 | Gnarfoz | yeah, VIad is crying over having to wait 3 days :P |
| 11:41.14 | bluspacecow | *hands it to znf* |
| 11:41.30 | VIad | if the raid quests had a time limit yeah sure |
| 11:41.31 | Gnarfoz | I've been waiting a week now to complete In Nightmares or whatever it is |
| 11:41.52 | Gnarfoz | because I didn't realize the thing from Il'gynoth is a clickable object somewhere else in the room |
| 11:41.58 | Gnarfoz | I just looted the boss and moved on ^^ |
| 11:42.05 | Gnarfoz | I'll have to grab it today |
| 11:42.13 | VIad | week 3, no raid quests ^_^ |
| 11:42.18 | Shockah|Work | Gnarfoz, ...i picked up the quest AFTER we killed Il'gynoth |
| 11:42.26 | Gnarfoz | (which also means I get more AP from the quest reward... heyoo AK6) |
| 11:42.28 | znf | pug it |
| 11:42.29 | znf | :P |
| 11:42.32 | VIad | 856 ilvl, I bet the quest rewards 840 anyways |
| 11:42.38 | znf | AK6 in... 2 hours |
| 11:42.45 | Gnarfoz | of course, I could have done the boss again in a PUG without loot |
| 11:42.46 | Shockah|Work | tomorrow for me D: |
| 11:42.50 | Shockah|Work | and i have a raid today |
| 11:42.51 | Gnarfoz | but what for, I'm not missing out on anything by waiting |
| 11:43.12 | Gnarfoz | znf:Â yep, 90 minutes or so here |
| 11:43.16 | VIad | the mythic dungeon quests are kind of a disapointment too |
| 11:43.20 | VIad | like 840 crap gear |
| 11:43.35 | VIad | my attitude is that WQ is only for catchup to be able to raid |
| 11:43.39 | Gnarfoz | unless I some day forget to put in new work orders, it'll always be a reminder at what time I hit 110 for as long as there's AK to be gained |
| 11:43.40 | VIad | so gear will be shit |
| 11:43.57 | VIad | unsure about the raid quests if the gear will be shit or onpar with the raid ilvl |
| 11:44.05 | VIad | or if it can war/titan proc |
| 11:44.15 | Kalroth | pepperidge farm remembers when ilvl 60 was cool |
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| 11:47.51 | znf | VIad, raid quest is LFR gear |
| 11:48.16 | nebula | i imagine it's like wod where is based on your actual raid kills |
| 11:48.21 | nebula | it is* |
| 11:49.02 | VIad | znf: lol |
| 11:49.12 | VIad | I hope so, nebula |
| 11:49.21 | VIad | otherwise its obscolete and I havent even gotten one :p |
| 11:49.37 | VIad | like, clear EN normal for normal ilvl gear? |
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| 11:49.42 | VIad | maybe clear it two times |
| 11:50.36 | nebula | i think it you got one tier up in gear after like two and have clears worth of kills or so |
| 11:50.50 | VIad | dunno |
| 11:50.58 | VIad | they changed it for HFC to only give you the content you did gear |
| 11:51.11 | VIad | I did a lot of HFC heroic pugging, but only got heroic caches |
| 11:51.15 | VIad | never got any mythic caches :p |
| 11:51.17 | nebula | yea, that actually sounds right |
| 11:51.31 | VIad | earlier I remember they tried giving the tier up |
| 11:51.32 | nebula | so if you killed the first both in mythic enough, you'd start getting mythic gear |
| 11:51.42 | VIad | hmm |
| 11:51.44 | nebula | s/both/boss/ |
| 11:51.54 | VIad | so I guess I should pug the first boss mythic, just for the cache thing the next weeks |
| 11:52.06 | VIad | that wont probably happen though ;p |
| 11:52.38 | Semlar | as far as i know you had to kill an absurd number of bosses on a difficulty before it started giving you loot from it |
| 11:52.46 | Semlar | it was like 20 or something |
| 11:52.59 | nebula | i wanted to say it was like 14 |
| 11:53.07 | nebula | but i'm just pulling numbers out of my ass |
| 11:53.46 | VIad | why arent 2 full clears enough? |
| 11:54.23 | nebula | it was a based on the number of bosses in the instance, though, i'm sure there's a post somewhere about the details people figured out |
| 11:54.26 | VIad | by the time you start getting itemson your ilvl, you'll probably get 2-3 then it's time for next tier of raid anyways |
| 11:54.52 | VIad | if you need to clear a month worth of EN :p |
| 11:54.52 | Semlar | it's just supposed to help fill in gear that hasn't dropped for you |
| 11:55.24 | VIad | been unlucky this raid, this week got two items that I got better items from last weeks EN so FML |
| 11:55.44 | VIad | at least I made two guys happy :p |
| 11:56.50 | VIad | theoretically there is some dude happy like heck, getting items on each boss both weeks now :p |
| 11:57.03 | VIad | though seems in a 15 man group, you have 5 drops |
| 11:57.12 | znf | do I need to geet followers to 860 or wtf? |
| 11:57.15 | VIad | like max, maybe thats with coins |
| 11:57.16 | VIad | 850 is max |
| 11:57.20 | znf | >_< |
| 11:59.52 | VIad | I chose the wrong CH upgrade :p |
| 12:00.08 | VIad | 1. not enough missions I care about, so never needed the +1 extra guys I can create |
| 12:00.15 | VIad | should have picked the other one >_> |
| 12:00.25 | VIad | one that gives garrison>gear items |
| 12:00.28 | VIad | more useful atm |
| 12:00.43 | Shockah|Work | VIad, i have to switch this one back now though |
| 12:00.48 | Shockah|Work | i have way too much equipment |
| 12:00.58 | VIad | what is the day on the research? |
| 12:01.00 | VIad | 2 days? |
| 12:01.17 | Shockah|Work | no idea, i'm still finishing tier V |
| 12:01.22 | Shockah|Work | and ignoring tier VI |
| 12:03.13 | VIad | tier 5 done in 10h |
| 12:03.21 | VIad | instantly complete a WQ on my map every 3 days |
| 12:03.29 | Shockah|Work | why would you take that |
| 12:03.30 | VIad | seals thing is bullcrap |
| 12:03.34 | VIad | 1 free seal each week? |
| 12:03.41 | VIad | I can afford it LOL |
| 12:03.53 | Shockah|Work | but you can't afford to do ONE world quest every 3 days? |
| 12:04.12 | VIad | going to use it on the WQ that I have no time to do |
| 12:04.23 | VIad | or that I cba to find a group to do or something |
| 12:04.31 | VIad | more useful than the 1 free seal |
| 12:04.49 | VIad | like I can be at work and complete a WQ that gives something nice without being on the computer |
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| 12:08.37 | VIad | I can see more situations the WQ complete ability is more useful |
| 12:08.39 | VIad | than the free seal |
| 12:08.42 | VIad | is all I am saying |
| 12:08.52 | VIad | even though seals are cute and all, I can live without one |
| 12:09.06 | VIad | I won't fall for the bunker hype "omfg I can get 4 seals a week" |
| 12:09.14 | VIad | then "oh they meant just one free one, well thats crap" |
| 12:09.40 | Shockah|Work | i have barely any resources left |
| 12:09.53 | Shockah|Work | and i'm having less and less gold every day |
| 12:09.53 | VIad | I am at 50k atm |
| 12:10.03 | Shockah|Work | so i'd rather have that one free seal |
| 12:10.13 | VIad | you can do legacy raids for transmogs |
| 12:10.19 | VIad | and gold, maybe some boe stuff you can sell on AH |
| 12:10.26 | VIad | people need some mats to skill professions too |
| 12:10.27 | Shockah|Work | can != have time for that |
| 12:10.32 | Shockah|Work | i'm here to play the current expansion |
| 12:10.35 | Shockah|Work | not prev ones |
| 12:10.36 | VIad | yeah |
| 12:10.53 | VIad | you can pay money for some gold :p |
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| 12:11.26 | VIad | thats why blizz made the quests and such give no gold, but kept the stuff you need to play the game like consumables, rare and hard to farm so people push the prices in ranges you can't manage |
| 12:11.44 | VIad | I think its all planned for people to spend money to buy gold :p |
| 12:12.11 | karl_w_w | what a painting http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JoyXtDsMaoE/T01L4o-fsxI/AAAAAAAAFaE/g14Pac7zzR4/s1600/REPIN_Ivan_Terrible&Ivan.jpg |
| 12:12.26 | VIad | karl_w_w: context? |
| 12:12.38 | VIad | you visited art gallery? |
| 12:13.05 | znf | Shockah|Work, ...how do you not have resources? |
| 12:13.11 | znf | wtf is up with you people |
| 12:13.13 | znf | what do you spend them on? |
| 12:13.20 | VIad | CH upgrades are expensive |
| 12:13.28 | VIad | follower gear research thingy |
| 12:13.33 | znf | I can afford 3 more legendary research shit |
| 12:13.34 | VIad | if you dont WQ farm :( |
| 12:13.50 | znf | gear research is 25 per order... |
| 12:13.51 | Shockah|Work | znf, currently at 5k |
| 12:14.19 | Shockah|Work | and i barely do any more WQs than for the emissary |
| 12:14.21 | karl_w_w | random result of mostly unrelated googling, VIad |
| 12:14.34 | znf | VIad, http://i.imgur.com/sXRhx7J.png |
| 12:14.46 | znf | I took the free seal |
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| 12:22.03 | Aftermathh | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=319467#post319467 |
| 12:22.09 | Aftermathh | Anyone able to help? :) |
| 12:22.37 | Shockah|Work | looks like working to me |
| 12:23.00 | Shockah|Work | maybe you're just misunderstanding what it does |
| 12:23.48 | Shockah|Work | horizontal = left to right, vertical = bottom to top |
| 12:23.58 | VIad | znf: our trees are different :p |
| 12:23.59 | Shockah|Work | and then you can also reverse it to go right to left or top to bottom |
| 12:24.10 | znf | VIad, obviousl |
| 12:24.12 | znf | y |
| 12:27.28 | VIad | yeah but yours is so much better |
| 12:27.36 | VIad | I find most of mine meh >_> |
| 12:27.50 | VIad | WQ giving extra CHR is quite good |
| 12:27.59 | VIad | get much more out of it if you WQ a lot |
| 12:28.13 | VIad | how much is it per WQ? 50? 100? |
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| 12:30.52 | znf | dunno |
| 12:30.53 | znf | I didn't take it |
| 12:31.07 | znf | I have the +100 for my bodyguard anyway |
| 12:32.06 | VIad | but you won't have any CHR issues if you have 100 from body and the passive :p |
| 12:32.19 | VIad | if you get 50 per WQ and you do a lot of WQ thats over 1k per day |
| 12:32.26 | VIad | with bodyguard you are probably up to 3k |
| 12:32.39 | Shockah|Work | Aftermathh, just keep the talk to the channel please |
| 12:32.54 | VIad | >:D |
| 12:33.01 | VIad | he whispered you? :d |
| 12:33.03 | Shockah|Work | yeah |
| 12:33.10 | VIad | can I whisper you? |
| 12:33.11 | Shockah|Work | well, /msg'd |
| 12:33.21 | Aftermathh | I don't want to be Horizonal, i want it to be from bottom to top |
| 12:33.37 | Shockah|Work | you just said in PM you want it top to bottom |
| 12:33.50 | Shockah|Work | it's different from bottom to top |
| 12:33.56 | Aftermathh | Bottom to Top i mean |
| 12:34.09 | Shockah|Work | ...but it IS bottom to top on your second screenshot |
| 12:34.15 | Shockah|Work | so do you want it top to bottom? lol |
| 12:34.16 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/sd93sBf.png |
| 12:34.35 | Shockah|Work | anyway there's some function on statusbars |
| 12:34.44 | Shockah|Work | that reverses it |
| 12:35.13 | VIad | wish SetPoint could work like SetTexCoord and be usable to flip things over :p |
| 12:35.33 | VIad | znf: where did you get that? |
| 12:35.42 | VIad | on beta I got 150g passive |
| 12:35.47 | Shockah|Work | maybe someone else remembers what it was, i didn't ever use statusbars to begin with |
| 12:35.50 | Shockah|Work | i just know it exists |
| 12:36.02 | znf | VIad, quest reward, I think? |
| 12:36.21 | znf | I remember getting it from the nightfallen campaign |
| 12:36.28 | znf | but now looking the sources on wowhead, I"m not so sure |
| 12:36.34 | VIad | might be random |
| 12:36.44 | VIad | I am exalted, think I got a mission % increase thingy |
| 12:37.00 | VIad | wowhead is kind of outdated now with so many PL drops and such :( |
| 12:37.19 | VIad | I often just get weird info on the drop info, like thottbot era we just gotta talk in the comments :p |
| 12:39.01 | znf | I'm still waiting for them to fix flasks and potions |
| 12:39.39 | Aftermathh | Shockah, i want it to be like this |
| 12:39.40 | Aftermathh | http://imgur.com/a/MXy8D |
| 12:39.48 | Aftermathh | Bottom To Top |
| 12:40.10 | Shockah|Work | and that's exactly what you have on your screenshot http://imgur.com/a/kkil2 |
| 12:40.32 | Aftermathh | So my question is, how do i flip it? |
| 12:40.40 | Shockah|Work | ...like i'm saying, there's nothing to flip |
| 12:40.48 | VIad | I think he means the dimensions? |
| 12:40.49 | Shockah|Work | if anything, you gotta resize |
| 12:40.51 | VIad | SetSize() ? |
| 12:40.59 | Shockah|Work | swap your width and height values |
| 12:41.23 | Shockah|Work | HonorBar:SetSize(235, 22) |
| 12:41.24 | VIad | use SetSize(22, 235) instead what oyu use now |
| 12:41.25 | Shockah|Work | that's what you have |
| 12:41.27 | Shockah|Work | yep |
| 12:41.31 | Shockah|Work | what VIad said |
| 12:41.54 | VIad | wait, is game92 Aftermathh? :o |
| 12:42.18 | Aftermathh | Ah! |
| 12:42.26 | Aftermathh | I see, works fine now :D |
| 12:42.27 | p3lim | I already answered him on the forums |
| 12:42.28 | Aftermathh | Thanks haha |
| 12:42.48 | VIad | p3lim: we see :p |
| 12:42.48 | Aftermathh | Thanks P3lim, saw that now :) |
| 12:42.59 | Aftermathh | Yes, vlad, im game92 :) |
| 12:43.10 | znf | When you're too lazy to use the elevator http://i.imgur.com/Qe7fSsg.png |
| 12:43.40 | VIad | znf: I do the same |
| 12:44.53 | znf | ...why the fuck is imgur messing with my PNGs? |
| 12:45.09 | VIad | making them smaller? |
| 12:45.14 | VIad | think they have a size cap |
| 12:46.08 | znf | it's 5MB per PNG |
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| 12:48.51 | VIad | thats weird |
| 12:52.29 | VIad | 4.3 MB for me :d hehe |
| 12:52.53 | VIad | but yes imgur did something |
| 12:53.11 | VIad | in this case I dont think they want to make files larger? thats a bit counter productive for a hosting site |
| 12:53.45 | znf | Hmmm. |
| 12:53.51 | znf | wait a second |
| 12:53.54 | znf | this is chrome doing something |
| 12:53.56 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/kkFttwQ.png |
| 12:54.28 | znf | chrome is messing with the colors |
| 12:55.01 | nevcairiel | chrome will probably apply a screens color profile, which many other apps might ignore |
| 12:55.20 | Aftermathh | Cheers everyone :D http://imgur.com/a/nicwK |
| 12:55.24 | znf | the colors are washed out in chrome |
| 12:58.31 | VIad | why would the size change? |
| 12:59.00 | VIad | I just inspected the image and saw its size |
| 12:59.14 | VIad | your local image file seems to be 5.93 mb so :p |
| 12:59.29 | VIad | imgur even made the image smaller for me |
| 13:02.43 | Fisker | tacklehugs Lopeppeppy |
| 13:03.09 | Lopeppeppy | Bonjour, everypeople. |
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| 13:03.35 | VIad | Fisker and Lopeppeppy, get a room |
| 13:03.46 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr! This is a room. |
| 13:04.01 | VIad | a private room. not everyone is here to watch you |
| 13:04.04 | VIad | guys hug :p |
| 13:04.58 | znf | VIad, no |
| 13:05.03 | znf | the image is ~4MB compressed |
| 13:05.12 | znf | decompressed (in memory) is ~5.93 |
| 13:07.36 | VIad | I just checked the network tab >_> |
| 13:07.48 | VIad | and saw the raw data I got from imgur, isnt that matters? |
| 13:11.05 | znf | ??! |
| 13:11.16 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/CvEyHRZ.png is 3.3MB |
| 13:11.34 | VIad | let me check, thats another picture |
| 13:11.42 | VIad | 3.3 mb yes |
| 13:16.22 | Aftermathh | http://imgur.com/a/DM0GF Anyone what they are called? in the /fstack it says only OrderhallCommandBar.3d1822f0.Icon / TroopPortraitCover |
| 13:18.25 | VIad | its part of the command bar |
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| 13:18.45 | VIad | if you look you can see there are more frames overlapping in /fstack :p |
| 13:21.32 | Aftermathh | http://imgur.com/IgZ9QIV |
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| 14:10.35 | Semlar | this raid needs a way to teleport out |
| 14:10.44 | Semlar | so people can summon |
| 14:10.45 | Seeker` | hearthstone :P |
| 14:11.03 | VIad | it's sad how little focus there is to add an exit to dungeons and raids these days |
| 14:11.08 | Semlar | because the run from the heart to the entrance is ridiculous |
| 14:11.26 | Semlar | you teleport to the heart when you zone in, which is great |
| 14:12.01 | Semlar | but if you have to summon someone they may as well just walk there themselves |
| 14:12.10 | VIad | cenarius should have an exit thingy near him |
| 14:12.23 | VIad | and the shortcut should just put you near cenarius too |
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| 14:12.58 | karl_w_w | what's that warhammer game that came out recently? |
| 14:14.11 | karl_w_w | Battlefleet Gothic: Armada |
| 14:14.59 | VIad | you mean "Warhammer 40'000: Battlefleet Gothic: Armada" |
| 14:15.07 | VIad | doesn't everything get the W40K prefix? :p |
| 14:16.10 | ls- | or postfix :p |
| 14:16.32 | VIad | prefix |
| 14:16.39 | VIad | hotfix, subfix |
| 14:29.27 | Miiru | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.01 | Alram | parsing them |
| 14:30.28 | Alram | https://wowdev.wiki/BLP |
| 14:32.05 | Miiru | yes I found that site and if I understand correctly I would have to somehow read the header and then look at the table? |
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| 14:58.33 | Tentacled | Eew, GetPlayerFacing() returns nil in scenarios and dungeons and raids in 7.1.0? :( |
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| 15:29.41 | nevcairiel | positions and related info are gone in instanced content in 7.1, yes |
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| 15:52.56 | Cide | I'm trying to upload an addon |
| 15:53.13 | Cide | wowinterface is pretty easy but I can't figure out curseforge for the life of me |
| 15:53.31 | Cide | can I somehow link the repo to my github repo? |
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| 15:59.49 | pompy | Cide: https://www.curseforge.com/forums/wow-beta-sites-2/wow-beta-sites-feedback/6288-external-sources |
| 16:08.31 | Cide | pompy: not updated for a year sadly |
| 16:13.15 | Cide | Torhal: any chance you can approve https://wow.curseforge.com/addons/groupauras/ ? |
| 16:19.46 | Cide | or anyone else with curseforge approval rights |
| 16:19.51 | Cide | not sure who that might be offhand |
| 16:20.09 | Shockah | that's not even an addon, is it |
| 16:20.39 | Shockah | at least i never heard of Go addons for WoW |
| 16:20.52 | Cide | Shockah: I wrote the Go->lua compiler |
| 16:20.57 | Shockah | wat |
| 16:21.04 | Cide | http://github.com/eandre/lunar |
| 16:21.34 | Cide | with wow-specific extensions here: https://github.com/eandre/lunar-wow |
| 16:21.39 | bluspacecow | is that the one with the turtles? |
| 16:21.41 | Shockah | anyway it's missing any compiled versions, or at least i don't see any |
| 16:21.52 | Cide | Shockah: I uploaded a file with the compiled version |
| 16:22.46 | Cide | and https://github.com/eandre/groupauras/releases/tag/v0.1 |
| 16:26.21 | TheDanW | nevcairiel: it should be incremented, just hasn't been done yet |
| 16:30.41 | znf | don't all quest rewards update to the new AK you get? |
| 16:32.14 | nevcairiel | Most do |
| 16:32.15 | nevcairiel | Not sure all |
| 16:32.43 | znf | I could have sworn the dungeon quests were all 1.5k AP before I got AK6 |
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| 16:32.57 | nevcairiel | Nah 1.2 before |
| 16:33.53 | nevcairiel | All 400 base |
| 16:34.44 | znf | oh, ok |
| 16:34.55 | znf | just woke up from a nap and I was confused |
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| 16:46.55 | karl_w_w | Well I chuckled http://www.kitchenwarehouse.com.au/Fred-ManaTea-Infuser |
| 16:48.52 | kullervo | knew it lol "this better be a manatee" |
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| 16:51.13 | shirsig | Hey, is there a way to overwrite a method on a core widget so that every new one created will inherit it? Or alternatively, is there a way to hook into frame creation in xml? (as opposed to createframe) |
| 16:54.00 | shirsig | (by core widget I mean for example "Button" as in "CreateFrame'Button'", not sure if that's the right term |
| 17:05.04 | Funkeh` | Guill, how would I go about changing the player texture size on the new map to represent the yard distance around me? |
| 17:07.00 | Guill | Funkeh`: There isn't a simple API for it, but the third and fourth parameters of :AddUnit on the new UnitPositionFrame are the height and width in pixels. Combine that with GetDungeonMapInfo (which returns the bounds of a particular map in world coordinates) and it shouldn't be too difficult to do the math to convert world coordinates to pixel size. |
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| 17:13.27 | jnwhiteh | Is anyone able to reproduce this bug? https://wow.curseforge.com/addons/clique/tickets/165-spells-cant-be-cast-from-time-to-time/#comments |
| 17:18.15 | Guill | jnwhiteh: I experienced something very similar that I'm fairly certain was just due to a person joining the raid while I was in combat. It fixed as soon as I left combat. Is it possible that's what people are seeing? |
| 17:18.35 | jnwhiteh | They seem to think it can be reproduced easily, which seems to indicate no.. |
| 17:18.49 | jnwhiteh | but yeah that wouldn't surprise me, there's always some weird stuff when a new frame appears |
| 17:19.01 | jnwhiteh | for the life of me I can't reproduce this behaviour |
| 17:19.20 | jnwhiteh | I miss having people who know how to properly report a bug :P |
| 17:23.41 | VIad | :'( http://ss.bool.no/capture_1475169814.png |
| 17:24.45 | Funkeh` | Guill, in GetDungeonMapInfo what is dungeonMapId, I tried instanceId and mapId |
| 17:26.09 | Guill | Funkeh`: dungeonMapID is an ID in a separate table. I don't think there's a great way to get that from the mapID right now. You could definitely just call GetDungeonMaps() to get a list of all dungeonMapIDs and then iterate through them checking the mapID/floorIndex from GetDungeonMapInfo (6th and 1st return values respectively) |
| 17:27.16 | Guill | Obviously you probably wouldn't want to do that too frequently, but you could build a lookup table or something. |
| 17:27.53 | VIad | Semlar: what was the hidden tracking for artifact looks? the achievement thing |
| 17:28.00 | Funkeh` | GetDungeonMaps doesn't represent map ids though |
| 17:28.11 | Funkeh` | either that or the table it returns is out of date |
| 17:28.27 | Semlar | there's a dungeon map info function |
| 17:28.31 | Semlar | which is what those ids are for |
| 17:29.01 | Funkeh` | Im not talking about the index, Im talking about the value of the table entries |
| 17:29.19 | Semlar | yes, the value of the entries |
| 17:29.37 | Semlar | GetDungeonMapInfo |
| 17:37.10 | Guill | Funkeh`: function GetDungeonMapInfoByMapAndFloor(map, floor) for _, id in ipairs(GetDungeonMaps()) do local dfloor, _, _, _, _, dmap = GetDungeonMapInfo(id); if ( map == dmap and floor == dfloor ) then return GetDungeonMapInfo(id) end end |
| 17:37.25 | Guill | Obviously inefficient, but that's the basic API |
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| 17:39.13 | Funkeh` | so it appears to be instanceId |
| 17:39.17 | Funkeh` | not mapId |
| 17:39.43 | Funkeh` | the 6th return |
| 17:40.02 | Guill | I think I've mentioned before, the terms you guys use for IDs are different than the ones we use internally. |
| 17:40.31 | Funkeh` | a map id is the id system the world map uses |
| 17:40.40 | Funkeh` | an instance id is the id as returned by GetInstanceInfo |
| 17:40.52 | Guill | Then yes, it's an instance ID :) |
| 17:41.08 | Guill | Technically it's an ID into the "map" table, so we generally call them "map ID" and "world map ID" |
| 17:41.24 | Funkeh` | yeah that's totally not confusing |
| 17:44.45 | VIad | why doesnt the waterstrider or waterwalking reset after combat/gettinghit ends? |
| 17:45.31 | Funkeh` | Guill, and how do you set the map frame to only show a specific section of the map |
| 17:45.57 | VIad | fake it with scrollframes |
| 17:46.08 | VIad | the map images are fixed amount like 12 just put near each other :p |
| 17:46.42 | Guill | You don't need to use ScrollFrames anymore! There's the new "clipChildren" flag on frames. |
| 17:49.00 | VIad | Guill: 7.1? |
| 17:49.17 | VIad | children won't appear above the parent frames restrictions? nice! :D |
| 17:49.21 | Funkeh` | Guill, can you elaborate |
| 17:49.40 | VIad | your frame actsl ike the viewport |
| 17:49.45 | VIad | children wont overflow and show outside |
| 17:50.33 | Funkeh` | Im taking about a unit position frame, so I'm not sure what you mean by "it's children" |
| 17:51.03 | VIad | you're a dad Funkeh`, didn't you know? |
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| 18:04.29 | Guill | Funkeh`: Parent the UnitPositionFrame to another frame that matches the size you want to cut to. Make that other frame clip children. |
| 18:11.12 | VIad | I wanted to do that for the tooltip when you mouseover the portals in suramar base, but I knew where they go by that time so it was pointless ,_, |
| 18:11.28 | VIad | would be nice if was native, like when you hover it also show in the tip where it leads :d |
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| 18:27.24 | VIad | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/553bor/found_issue_behind_dying_at_the_end_of_withered/ :'( |
| 18:31.58 | VIad | kek http://ss.bool.no/capture_1475173912.png |
| 18:33.34 | Infus | Guill: any benefit besides less code? |
| 18:33.38 | karl_w_w | I know someone who talks like an owl. |
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| 18:48.43 | Guill | Infus: Less memory/slightly faster/not having to deal with scroll children. |
| 18:49.04 | Torhal | But Semlar likes scroll children. |
| 18:49.20 | Torhal | He built his entire non-career on them. |
| 18:49.32 | Unkle | And some people like stepping barefoot on Lego, but that doesn't make it a good idea. |
| 18:49.57 | Torhal | Barefoot on a Lego block that's sitting atop an Etch-A-Sketch, Unkle. |
| 18:50.21 | Unkle | So, how many of your children have you sold to the circus? |
| 18:50.26 | Torhal | The old ones with the glass screens. |
| 18:50.40 | Torhal | I only have one child. |
| 18:50.46 | Unkle | Oh dear god. |
| 18:50.49 | Cide | hm so |
| 18:50.54 | Cide | I created this: https://wow.curseforge.com/addons/groupauras/ |
| 18:51.00 | Cide | how do I get it to show up in curse client? |
| 18:51.07 | Cide | there is a release |
| 18:51.39 | Torhal | Cide: Project management â Edit project, scroll to the bottom, change Development stage from Planning to Release. |
| 18:51.39 | Unkle | https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/groupauras |
| 18:52.15 | Torhal | I'm actually surprised there's a download button there since the project's stage is Planning. |
| 18:52.30 | Cide | ok, I changed it |
| 18:52.33 | Cide | how long until it shows up? |
| 18:52.36 | Torhal | Now let it sync. |
| 18:52.44 | Torhal | 15 minute intervals, so YMMV. |
| 18:52.46 | Cide | cool |
| 18:52.48 | Cide | thanks :) |
| 18:52.52 | Torhal | :) |
| 18:58.30 | znf | "Innocents are being..." |
| 18:58.33 | znf | nope, don't care |
| 19:00.30 | znf | feels good to be exalted |
| 19:03.29 | p3lim | is UnitGroupRolesAssigned valid outside of LFD/LFR? |
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| 19:03.49 | znf | ~framexml |
| 19:03.49 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
| 19:04.53 | znf | UnitThreatPercentageOfLead(indicator.feedbackUnit, indicator.unit) |
| 19:04.59 | znf | what's indicator.feedbackUnit ? |
| 19:06.52 | znf | or, rather, is there a way to tell if a mob is in combat with you or your party? |
| 19:09.51 | Semlar | yes |
| 19:10.22 | Semlar | i added a combat indicator to my nameplates during the invasions so i could tell what i'd tapped |
| 19:10.32 | znf | Give. |
| 19:10.52 | znf | I want to do that, too, for dungeons |
| 19:11.04 | znf | when I go on a tab-spree, sometimes I pull mobs not in combat :( |
| 19:11.10 | znf | and it makes boo-boo |
| 19:11.23 | kullervo | adjust your tab target settings |
| 19:11.35 | znf | adjust what now? |
| 19:11.41 | znf | what settings did I miss? |
| 19:12.11 | znf | since Legion, tab-targetting also likes to pick targets that are behind walls, underneath you etc. |
| 19:12.26 | Primer | yeah, it's quite frustrating |
| 19:12.30 | kullervo | and you can adjust all that |
| 19:12.42 | znf | explain |
| 19:12.54 | kullervo | there's at least 5 cvars |
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| 19:13.47 | znf | "TargetPriorityCombat" is on |
| 19:13.56 | znf | it still tabs to target that are not in combat |
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| 19:14.29 | kullervo | ... They have up to three states |
| 19:14.46 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.50 | znf | that's not what this says |
| 19:15.05 | znf | or, rather, not explaining enough |
| 19:15.48 | znf | TargetPriorityCombatLock has 0/1/2 |
| 19:15.57 | znf | 2 restricting it to being in combat just with me |
| 19:16.59 | znf | also, what does the Highlight setting do? |
| 19:17.30 | kullervo | Ofc it won't work if you haven't locked to a combat target yet |
| 19:18.00 | ls- | TheDanW: could you pls fix UnitPower for vehicles? UnitPower("vehicle", SPELL_POWER_COMBO_POINTS) always returns 0 T_T |
| 19:18.03 | znf | also, what does TargetPriorityValueBank do? |
| 19:19.10 | znf | Semlar, so just query the unitid with GetUnitForPlate() and then just pass it to UnitDetailedThreatSituation ? |
| 19:19.10 | znf | nice |
| 19:19.12 | Stanzilla | ls- TheDanW http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53496 |
| 19:19.36 | ls- | I bet this issue was reported hundreds of times :p |
| 19:19.47 | znf | Semlar, wait - GetUnitForPlate is not a global function |
| 19:19.56 | Semlar | no |
| 19:20.25 | Stanzilla | yes it was |
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| 19:21.16 | Semlar | my addon is tracking what unit belongs to each nameplate |
| 19:21.49 | Stanzilla | ls-: bugs get fixed on a priority basis though, and there are no vehicle fights in any even half current content |
| 19:21.50 | Stanzilla | so yeah :D |
| 19:22.01 | Semlar | it doesn't really matter, you could just iterate over units NamePlate1-NamePlate30 |
| 19:22.06 | TheDanW | ls-, Stanzilla: i'll try to have someone take a look, i just visually inspected the code and it appears it should work |
| 19:22.08 | Semlar | until they don't exist |
| 19:22.18 | TheDanW | nameplates go up to 40 btw |
| 19:22.22 | Semlar | whatever |
| 19:22.50 | Semlar | if you need the nameplate just use C_NamePlate.GetNamePlateForUnit on those unit IDs |
| 19:23.16 | kullervo | there are at least two vehicle quests in current content |
| 19:23.17 | ls- | TheDanW: thx, it works w/ other power types, but it doesn't work w/ combo points T_T |
| 19:24.36 | TheDanW | ls-: looks like its already being tracked internally - wouldn't expect a fix any time soon, turns out to be more complicated than it appears |
| 19:25.23 | Semlar | oh, my friend said that even random heroics weren't contributing to the number of dungeons he'd done to unlock his hidden artifact color |
| 19:25.38 | ls- | TheDanW: damn, at least now we know that it's being tracked :p thanks! |
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| 21:04.00 | shirsig | bone: mh, I think this should have the same performance without the weirdness, right? http://pastebin.com/zzzgkJFv |
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| 21:13.07 | znf | Semlar, does UnitDetailedThreatSituation return anything if a member of my party is in combat with that unit? |
| 21:13.13 | znf | I don't have anyone to test |
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| 21:16.37 | znf | Can anyone think of some CC that is not in this list? http://hastebin.com/efiramifed.lua |
| 21:17.08 | znf | ~framexml |
| 21:17.08 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
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| 21:17.38 | znf | or, rather, is there a list of these effects in the framexml? |
| 21:18.01 | znf | (I'm guessing there has to be one, somewhere, for that fancy blizzard feature added in 5.x or so) |
| 21:20.31 | znf | Guill, is there a list of spells in the client, somewhere, that trigger the LossOfControl stuff? |
| 21:21.04 | nevcairiel | These are classified based on spell data, the UI just gets told the current CC type |
| 21:21.57 | nevcairiel | And they have in the past just hotfixed those around if balance asked for it |
| 21:22.11 | nevcairiel | Just recently even |
| 21:22.32 | nevcairiel | Not everything is a UI question you know :p |
| 21:22.40 | znf | I just need a list of current CCs to display on my targeet frames |
| 21:22.50 | shirsig | Anyone know if it's possible to overwrite a method on a core widget so that every new one created will inherit it? Or alternatively, is there a way to hook into frame creation in xml? (as opposed to createframe) |
| 21:23.13 | nevcairiel | Good luck maintaining something like that, needs proper maintenance :) |
| 21:23.57 | nevcairiel | It's really a bad idea to want to modify every core widget of a certain type shirsig , all other add-on devs will hate you |
| 21:24.07 | znf | in suf I have a tag that displays the target's race/unit classification, but when CC'd I display the current CC (like Mind Bomb, Silence, Static Charge) |
| 21:24.46 | znf | but I have no idea what CCs they changed since MoP |
| 21:25.20 | shirsig | well the change as I'm planning to do it wouldn't be noticable. I just need to store references to the frames for which certain methods are called |
| 21:27.38 | TheDanW | the client does not have a list |
| 21:27.44 | znf | thank you |
| 21:29.30 | shirsig | nevcairiel: like, think certain types of performance/activity monitoring for example |
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| 21:52.50 | ls- | TheDanW: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54566, I have the same question :p |
| 21:53.07 | ls- | jic, "GetItemInfo returns 14 through 17?" |
| 21:54.26 | TheDanW | 14: bind type (boe, bop, etc), 15: expac id, 16: itemSetID, 17: is a crafting reagent |
| 21:54.35 | nevcairiel | neat |
| 21:54.37 | ls- | ty <3 |
| 21:55.02 | nevcairiel | can remove a bunch of tooltip scanners |
| 22:01.31 | znf | holy shit |
| 22:01.32 | znf | :o |
| 22:01.54 | znf | finally |
| 22:02.16 | znf | I can filter out the gear in my bag acording to bind status, without freezing my client every time I open the bags? |
| 22:02.32 | nevcairiel | sounds like your bag addon was terrible |
| 22:02.48 | nevcairiel | there is such a concept called caching |
| 22:03.19 | znf | I've no idea if Adibags does it |
| 22:03.45 | znf | but back in the day that I used ArkInventory |
| 22:03.47 | nebula | it's only the initial bind type, not soulbound, though |
| 22:03.47 | znf | and that was horrible |
| 22:04.05 | nevcairiel | scanning for soulbound is annoying anyway since that info isnt in the item link |
| 22:04.15 | znf | I'm more interested in filtering out Bind of Equip items anyway |
| 22:04.38 | znf | I'm hoping that 14 returns that it's soulbound? |
| 22:05.35 | nevcairiel | it cant |
| 22:05.36 | nebula | znf: no |
| 22:05.40 | nevcairiel | because that info isnt in the itemlink |
| 22:05.45 | TheDanW | correct |
| 22:06.10 | znf | :-( |
| 22:06.11 | znf | damn it |
| 22:08.47 | TheDanW | i think it would be reasonable to add a function that reports the current bind status for an inventory item |
| 22:09.15 | TheDanW | i'm kinda surprised there isn't |
| 22:09.24 | ls- | :D |
| 22:09.26 | nebula | would be nice |
| 22:10.14 | znf | anything that gets rid of tooltip scanning |
| 22:11.11 | znf | so, nobody said anything and I can't test this |
| 22:11.44 | znf | does UnitDetailedThreatSituation return anything (not empty) if a member of my party/raid is in combat with a specific mob? |
| 22:12.26 | znf | that is, when I call it like UnitDetailedThreatSituation("player","target") |
| 22:14.29 | ls- | well, if you're on mob's threat list, it'll return smth... :p |
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| 22:14.53 | p3lim | TheDanW: Any plans on an official bugtracker for UI-related things? |
| 22:15.12 | nevcairiel | public bug trackers are not something any company should really do |
| 22:15.16 | nevcairiel | it just ends in disaster |
| 22:15.41 | modernist | can you imagine having to manage that thing |
| 22:16.14 | p3lim | would be nice just for seeing statuses of issues, not so much the issuing |
| 22:17.53 | ls- | I bet it's huge... and quite many people who have nothing to do w/ addon development may and will misinterpret it :p |
| 22:18.24 | nebula | that's what she said |
| 22:18.30 | znf | ^ |
| 22:18.33 | ls- | :D |
| 22:19.26 | ls- | mmoc community will use it to claim that wow is dead, yet again... |
| 22:20.38 | znf | someone who does quest design at blizzard has a fetish for hiding mobs in caves that have no indication for an entry point |
| 22:21.13 | nebula | i noticed that a lot of times there is a gold dot for the cave entrance now, though |
| 22:21.38 | znf | the dot is usually for the mob? :-/ |
| 22:21.40 | bshelden | mmoc's forum community needs wow to die to justify their fantasy... |
| 22:21.44 | znf | never seen one for the entrance |
| 22:21.49 | ls- | p3lim: merge that classicons PR yourself, tbh, I dunno how to name it now :p |
| 22:22.08 | bshelden | It's continued existance is a thorn in their side reminding them that their view of reality isn't accurate. |
| 22:22.13 | p3lim | you and your squashing |
| 22:22.21 | ls- | T_T |
| 22:23.07 | znf | squashes stuff |
| 22:25.14 | nebula | grats, you fucked it up, reclone the repo |
| 22:25.45 | znf | can WQs actually drop titanforged gear? |
| 22:25.53 | nebula | yes |
| 22:26.52 | Gnarfoz | a guildy has a 880 "Raid Finder Titanforged" |
| 22:27.03 | znf | O.o |
| 22:27.08 | Gnarfoz | which is kind of... "ok, gotta do lfr just for that chance, too" |
| 22:27.09 | znf | now that's a lucky drop |
| 22:27.11 | Stanzilla | yeah same here |
| 22:27.42 | ls- | nebula: I'm not that bad w/ git :p |
| 22:27.49 | nebula | znf is |
| 22:27.51 | Gnarfoz | btw, Stanzilla, will the WA config window ever be resizeable, and will the text box overflow ever be fixed? |
| 22:27.57 | ls- | :D ahaha |
| 22:28.03 | Stanzilla | the config is resizable |
| 22:28.07 | Stanzilla | the overflow is fixed in 7.1 |
| 22:28.13 | Stanzilla | it's a blizzard bug |
| 22:32.06 | znf | has nobody figured out wtf does this mean? http://i.imgur.com/ekYxP1q.png |
| 22:32.26 | nevcairiel | why cant you just link the item on wowhead like a sane person |
| 22:32.56 | Primer | going to guess the tailoring "don't get dazed while mounted" thing |
| 22:32.57 | nevcairiel | also, whats wrong with comfort |
| 22:33.02 | nevcairiel | there is no value for comfort |
| 22:33.17 | nevcairiel | Primer: it has no obvious measurable effect |
| 22:33.22 | ls- | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=220510/bloodtotem-saddle-blanket |
| 22:33.45 | ls- | Primer: you get dazed w/ it :p |
| 22:33.54 | nebula | don't get dazed it lw |
| 22:34.03 | nebula | is* |
| 22:34.09 | znf | http://www.wowhead.com/item=139503/bloodtotem-saddle-blanket#comments |
| 22:34.12 | znf | nobody has figured out yet |
| 22:34.25 | Primer | I figured every profession has something equivalent |
| 22:34.25 | Primer | BS has one |
| 22:34.27 | Primer | stirrups |
| 22:34.28 | znf | BS has mount speed |
| 22:34.34 | nebula | they have their own effects, they don't overlap |
| 22:34.36 | znf | LW has Dazed and Interact |
| 22:34.38 | nevcairiel | every profession has different effects |
| 22:34.43 | ls- | I know what it does.... |
| 22:34.45 | Primer | wait, LW is interact too? |
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| 22:34.46 | znf | but nobody has figured out what the tailoring does |
| 22:34.48 | nevcairiel | BS has speed and mounted object interaction |
| 22:34.54 | nevcairiel | LW is only daze |
| 22:34.54 | ls- | it occupies buff slot T_T |
| 22:34.54 | znf | ah, that's BS, my bad |
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| 22:35.23 | Gethe_ | TheDanW: I was massing with the new clipChidren attribute and found a somewhat nitpicky bug. |
| 22:35.34 | Gethe_ | If a clipped texture is rotated it gets a step artifact that isn't present in the unclipped texture. I uploaded the addon here: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=24237 |
| 22:37.48 | TheDanW | Gethe_: do you have a screenshot of the same thing but with clipChildren false? |
| 22:38.10 | Gethe_ | yeah it's the second ss |
| 22:38.32 | TheDanW | oh i missed that |
| 22:39.03 | znf | if this shit saddle is just a buff that does nothing, I'm going to be really pissed |
| 22:39.06 | nevcairiel | did you rotate it with animations or texcoord? |
| 22:39.09 | znf | why have I not dropped tailoring yet... |
| 22:39.13 | TheDanW | looks like anim |
| 22:39.13 | Gethe_ | anims |
| 22:40.53 | Gethe_ | hadn't really considered texcoord, my math game isn't that strong |
| 22:41.26 | nevcairiel | without some helper tools to do matrix math the first thing one should do is write such a helper tool =p |
| 22:41.41 | TheDanW | SetRotation on a texture will do texcoord rotation, but will shrink it some so it fits |
| 22:41.41 | nevcairiel | but simple rotations are actually pretty easy |
| 22:41.53 | nevcairiel | oh right there is a function for that now |
| 22:44.45 | Gethe_ | TheDanW: More significantly though, i seem to get crashed frequently when reloading the UI while using that addon. Haven't quite pinned down why though. |
| 22:45.24 | TheDanW | Gethe_: i'll take a look at both, thanks! |
| 22:45.48 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: lol why is the resize grabber on the left, herp derp |
| 22:45.55 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 22:46.06 | Gethe_ | no, thank you! |
| 22:46.09 | Gnarfoz | never noticed it, just tried in vaid to resize it at the lower right :P |
| 22:46.30 | nevcairiel | who would put such a thing on any other corner o.o |
| 22:46.57 | Gnarfoz | whatshisface wa2 creator, apparently |
| 22:47.04 | znf | yeah, damn Stanzilla |
| 22:47.14 | Gnarfoz | no, mirrormn or whatever |
| 22:50.28 | Infus | Gnarfoz: write a patch moving it to the right place |
| 22:50.44 | Gnarfoz | nah, I now know where it is. :P |
| 22:51.00 | Gnarfoz | enough people doing stanzillas work already! :p |
| 22:57.20 | znf | ofc I burn my finger in the oven |
| 22:57.41 | znf | holy shit this hurts |
| 22:58.08 | bshelden | Don't worry, I'm sure using the finger to type complaints to irc will make it feel better. |
| 22:58.25 | znf | it's the same finger |
| 22:58.26 | znf | !! |
| 22:58.35 | znf | STOP OPRESSING ME |
| 22:58.38 | znf | <triggered> |
| 22:58.42 | znf | <insert other tumblr stuff here> |
| 22:59.32 | bshelden | I'm just waiting for your building rage to cause you to self immolate. I already have the marshmallows. |
| 22:59.40 | znf | nah |
| 22:59.46 | znf | I drink plenty of alcohol to prevent that |
| 23:00.07 | znf | I'm chill, usually. I'm just lonely lately :P |
| 23:00.09 | nevcairiel | i thought the alcohol is to increase the flamability of your bodily fluids |
| 23:00.11 | bshelden | ooo, blue fire |
| 23:03.09 | znf | didiburnmyfoodyet.com |
| 23:04.05 | nevcairiel | what kind of evil combo is raging and necrotic anyway, both designed to not make you pull big packs? =p |
| 23:06.14 | znf | when's the next attribute? |
| 23:06.16 | znf | lvl12? |
| 23:08.30 | nebula | there's only three afaik, 4 7 10 |
| 23:11.25 | znf | I tought it was 4/8 |
| 23:11.27 | znf | cool |
| 23:12.17 | nebula | 10 is always buff either trash or bosses hp/damage |
| 23:18.14 | znf | I still don't get a raid quest mission :-/ |
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| 23:26.53 | Stanzilla | it depends on your number of boss kills |
| 23:41.42 | znf | ...?! |
| 23:41.44 | znf | I cleared normal |
| 23:41.45 | bshelden | 2 was enough for us. 2/7 normal and we all got the one for the eyeball dude. |
| 23:41.46 | znf | last week |
| 23:41.55 | znf | and one on heroic |
| 23:47.09 | Constie | I assumed follower item level determines if the mission shows up for you and number of boss kills determines what you get out of the reward cache for the quest. |
| 23:50.10 | znf | All except one are 850 :-/ |
| 23:53.30 | TheDanW | Gethe_: the crash has something to do with your use of pausing the anim, i'm having someone look at it but until then you may want to avoid pausing anims :/ |
| 23:54.11 | Gethe_ | oh ok, good to know! |
| 23:56.13 | znf | So, right now, I have better luck getting into a HC raid group (premade finder) than the Mythic+ groups |
| 23:58.53 | Ssateneth | make your own group? |
