| 00:07.38 | mfgmfg2 | any idea where i can find localized strings for Bolstering/Skittish/etc? |
| 00:22.33 | [TOM_RUS] | KeystoneAffix.db2 |
| 00:30.49 | TheDanW | C_ChallengeMode.GetAffixInfo(affixID) |
| 00:47.47 | _Kee | Cool! my agony just stopped generating shards. gg |
| 00:48.07 | _Kee | https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/W4fLtqA21kQTGcXP/#type=resources&boss=-3&source=3&spell=107 |
| 00:50.26 | _Kee | proccing golden artifact traits from weapon from bank from other spec, triggering and doubling entities by toy, and now not getting main resource⦠my character just became unplayable completelly⦠|
| 00:51.57 | _Kee | I was about to implement GUI showing chance on next tick to generate shard, when it stopped working. This is hilarious. |
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| 01:19.20 | _Kee | https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kRnPJfB32rTXZ4pW#type=summary 499 hits, begin from 0, every hit adds random amount beetween 0 and 0.32, what is a chance not getting over 1? I should have avg 80 shards. I got 0. |
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| 01:30.19 | _Kee | relogging helped, but still, this is hilarious. |
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| 01:50.34 | mfgmfg2 | perfect thanks thedanw |
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| 03:17.23 | LexSfX | TheDanW: was just playing arena and everyone in the game locked up (UI lag spikes about 5 times in a span of about 10-15 seconds) and now i'm spammed with MikScrollingBattleText errors saying "script ran too long" and "attempt to compare number with nil". we won because the enemy team's resto shaman's computer probably couldn't handle it. i'm assuming it affects default UI too, as my |
| 03:17.23 | LexSfX | teammate also got locked up at the same time and is running default UI |
| 03:17.40 | LexSfX | i mean, i have 5 "script ran too long" errors |
| 03:17.54 | LexSfX | and the second error is being spammed endlessly now |
| 03:18.11 | LexSfX | it has something to do with Queen's Decree, artifact trait |
| 03:18.55 | LexSfX | i'm reloading UI so i can copy the error text |
| 03:20.06 | LexSfX | "script ran too long" errors: http://lex.clansfx.co.uk/dump/c9b01855b41b688d1aa7ef5232d01181/000001A6.txt |
| 03:20.37 | LexSfX | "attempt to compare number with nil" errors: http://lex.clansfx.co.uk/dump/8caab5f204c637f0e85cf20684cb714f/000001A7.txt |
| 03:21.47 | LexSfX | second error log seems really weird, and cuts off at the end |
| 03:22.02 | LexSfX | these were copied from BugSack |
| 03:27.02 | mfgmfg2 | what function will map InstanceMapID to a name, e.g. 1493 => "Vault of the Wardens" |
| 03:27.43 | mfgmfg2 | looks like GetRealZoneText, thanks |
| 03:34.31 | Ssateneth | you're welcome |
| 03:34.40 | Ssateneth | you owe me for next time |
| 03:39.12 | Thunder_Child | I'm sure it will be easy to pay back. |
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| 03:50.24 | _Kee | I wrote addon that automatically spits on alliance players when they appear on nameplate :p |
| 03:50.45 | _Kee | Number of angry alliance players that attacks me has grown |
| 03:51.17 | _Kee | I get more Honor while doing WQs, this was a cool idea. |
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| 03:51.36 | Corrodias | ha |
| 03:55.42 | mckenziemc | lol |
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| 04:15.35 | _Kee | I wish I could also /yell I spit on you! |
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| 04:16.41 | Corrodias | WoW still does that language barrier thing, eh |
| 04:16.58 | kullervo | you could yell in demonic if a demon hunter |
| 04:17.03 | kullervo | or pandaren |
| 04:22.01 | _Kee | yeah, and rules disallows communicating opposite faction, won't bother then, it still works cool. |
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| 04:26.26 | mckenziemc | i wish people wouldn't automate rudeness! |
| 04:26.33 | mckenziemc | there's enough of that already D: |
| 04:26.43 | Simca | is there any existing addon that does % stuff on tooltips everywhere for progress bar based quest obje3ctives? |
| 04:27.23 | Simca | i am looking for an excuse to stay up late and figured i'd finally write an addon for that i've been thinking about |
| 04:27.41 | Simca | for that, which* |
| 04:28.08 | kullervo | those rules are outdated |
| 04:28.22 | Simca | probably going to do a library, actually |
| 04:28.24 | kullervo | since communication xfaction works without third party |
| 04:28.38 | Simca | because i am way too lazy for doing stuff with tooltips |
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| 04:47.23 | karl_w_w | so who won the debate? |
| 04:49.53 | Semlar | how the hell do you set an icon in curse client |
| 04:50.04 | Semlar | and why isn't it just using your curse profile |
| 04:50.32 | Semlar | torhal halp |
| 04:50.41 | Semlar | i'm not very good with computers |
| 04:52.25 | karl_w_w | booo it's raining |
| 04:52.48 | karl_w_w | starts singing Travis songs |
| 04:54.36 | Torhal | Semlar: WAT |
| 04:54.59 | _Kee | I tried curse voice communicating with guildmates, I have speaking on "z" key. Every single time I speak, chat input textarea was hovering and "zzzzz" was appearing inside while I kept "z" key pressed. That was driving me crazy. I switched back to teamspeak. |
| 04:56.57 | Simca | karl_w_w: everyone lost, especially if you wasted your time watching it :kappa: |
| 05:01.39 | Corrodias | i liked using capslock as my PTT key |
| 05:01.47 | Corrodias | i basically never use it for anything else. |
| 05:02.29 | Corrodias | and since i don't usually mix voice and text chat, its normal function didn't get in the way |
| 05:04.43 | Semlar | i figured it out |
| 05:04.46 | Semlar | it's not under settings |
| 05:05.13 | Semlar | you have to click on your avatar, then click on the avatar in the new window |
| 05:06.03 | Torhal | straps Semlar to a theater chair for 20 consecutive viewings of Avatar. |
| 05:21.15 | Wobin | karl_w_w: https://twitter.com/themadstone/status/780596507577765888 |
| 05:22.28 | Corrodias | nice |
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| 05:35.46 | mckenziemc | hey Torhal |
| 05:35.54 | Torhal | I refuse. |
| 05:36.52 | mckenziemc | i was mulling over a physics problem while getting ready for bed when i observed two spiders demonstrate that two objects cannot exist in the same location at the same time :( |
| 05:37.14 | Torhal | o.O |
| 05:38.11 | Semlar | i'm getting player kills for unlocking my appearance in this raid |
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| 05:38.31 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it's counting me killing my group |
| 05:38.32 | nebula | how do you track that? |
| 05:38.35 | bluspacecow | oh hi |
| 05:38.51 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:38.54 | Stanzilla | hidden achievement |
| 05:38.59 | bluspacecow | nebula - parse combat log for "oh god we're going to die" |
| 05:39.38 | Torhal | nebula: If you have bluspacecow as a healer or tank. |
| 05:39.44 | bluspacecow | ha! |
| 05:39.45 | Torhal | Maybe even DPS. |
| 05:39.50 | bluspacecow | yep yep |
| 05:39.57 | bluspacecow | bluspacecow , killer of 5 mans |
| 05:40.01 | nebula | pretty sure there are more characters used for your slash commands than the actual handler |
| 05:40.02 | bluspacecow | im fire mage ya know |
| 05:40.11 | bluspacecow | wat /aat ? |
| 05:40.21 | bluspacecow | lots of characters there |
| 05:40.34 | mckenziemc | crushes bluespacecow under an AT-AT. |
| 05:40.35 | nebula | and /artifactappearancetracker and /appearancetracker and /appearance |
| 05:40.40 | nebula | and SLASH_ARTIFACTAPPEARANCETRACKER1-4 |
| 05:40.56 | bluspacecow | whos bluespacecow ? |
| 05:41.10 | mckenziemc | corrects bluspacecow. |
| 05:41.27 | bluflatcow | <--- |
| 05:41.35 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 05:41.57 | Torhal | You aren't exactly flat if your molecule of thickness is contouring to the terrain. |
| 05:42.12 | bluflatcow | long words! |
| 05:42.19 | Torhal | :O |
| 05:43.03 | bluflatcow | my ignite brings all the mobs to the yard |
| 05:47.32 | mckenziemc | well that fell flat |
| 05:47.41 | bluflatcow | :| |
| 05:47.54 | mckenziemc | :p |
| 05:49.33 | Semlar | >_> |
| 05:50.44 | bluflatcow | <_< |
| 05:50.49 | nebula | bluflatcow: will you teach me? |
| 05:51.09 | Snowkrim | Hi, anyone here know how much work this needs until it could potentially be used for Legion? http://hastebin.com/wekapeqofu.lua It's an unfinished/abandoned AddOn for Mage Icicle tracking that was semi-updated for WoD. |
| 05:51.12 | bluflatcow | i would have to charge |
| 05:53.15 | mckenziemc | are you positive? |
| 05:53.59 | mckenziemc | rubs bluflatcow with polystyrene. |
| 05:54.24 | bluflatcow | damn right its better then yours |
| 05:56.00 | mckenziemc | negative, bluflatcow |
| 05:56.13 | bluflatcow | lol |
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| 06:44.16 | mfgmfg2 | itemlink in a BN whisper does not end with |r ? |
| 06:49.21 | mfgmfg2 | i guess it doesn't start with |c either |
| 06:49.23 | mfgmfg2 | so that's why |
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| 07:19.28 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/Tn6VqCQ.gifv |
| 07:19.40 | Semlar | alright, can you just not rez someone who died to the brambles on cenarius |
| 07:20.24 | Semlar | so far i've died twice to them, both times i got battle rezzed i got the brambles debuff and instantly died again |
| 07:21.25 | Semlar | i didn't get rezzed INTO brambles, i just instantly died to them when i rezzed |
| 07:21.48 | Shockah|Work | good thing i'm a hunter |
| 07:21.52 | Shockah|Work | Disengage out <3 |
| 07:21.52 | Semlar | i'm a hunter |
| 07:21.56 | Semlar | they instantly kill me |
| 07:21.58 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 07:22.00 | karl_w_w | you know what to do Semlar? |
| 07:22.04 | karl_w_w | stop dying |
| 07:22.07 | Semlar | i don't get the opportunity to disengage out of them |
| 07:22.09 | karl_w_w | ZING |
| 07:22.11 | mfgmfg2 | Semlar, i made a keystone addon too |
| 07:22.28 | Shockah|Work | keystone addon? |
| 07:22.32 | mfgmfg2 | https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/keystone-expander |
| 07:23.03 | nevcairiel | since the affixes are global, it seems kinda redundant to show them |
| 07:23.05 | Shockah|Work | ^ |
| 07:23.07 | Semlar | i was going to make one that replaced the text in the chat with what it was |
| 07:23.15 | mfgmfg2 | there's an option to turn it off |
| 07:23.16 | Semlar | so it didn't just say "mythic keystone" |
| 07:23.18 | nevcairiel | but showing dungeon and level is helpful, i guess |
| 07:23.37 | Semlar | but retroactively changing the text is tricky |
| 07:23.54 | VIad | Semlar: AddMessage ? |
| 07:24.07 | Semlar | you don't have the item information |
| 07:24.12 | Shockah|Work | ^ |
| 07:24.27 | mfgmfg2 | Semlar, all the info is in the itemstring |
| 07:24.55 | Xuerian | HE CRACKED THE CODE *dramatic music* |
| 07:25.07 | VIad | that was I was hoping for. doesnt the items use bonusIDs? |
| 07:25.19 | Semlar | i'd need to tie the IDs to instances |
| 07:26.37 | mfgmfg2 | GetRealZoneText(mapid) |
| 07:26.57 | VIad | I think he meant the bonusID :p |
| 07:27.07 | Semlar | i kind of doubt they're using the instance ID in the item string |
| 07:27.33 | VIad | yeah. why be that convenient? |
| 07:27.44 | VIad | might as well make a new set of bonusIDs to refer to those instances |
| 07:28.35 | Semlar | i think i just swapped out the ids by hand for this https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/keystonehelper |
| 07:29.14 | nevcairiel | it appears it puts the actual instance id in there |
| 07:29.16 | mfgmfg2 | it worked for me. *shrug* |
| 07:29.26 | nevcairiel | unfortunately i dont think any APIs actually accept the instance id as an argument |
| 07:29.38 | mfgmfg2 | 022639 <mfgmfg2> GetRealZoneText(mapid) |
| 07:30.05 | nevcairiel | i guess that one does |
| 07:32.12 | VIad | I am going to guess that the db files have no connection between the KeystoneAffix and the Bonus tables? |
| 07:32.30 | VIad | was thinking the process to figure out what bonusID was what would be easier using the db files |
| 07:32.39 | mfgmfg2 | VIad, thedanw helpfully pointed me to C_ChallengeMode.GetAffixInfo(affixID) |
| 07:32.50 | mfgmfg2 | and the affixIDs are helpfully in the itemstring |
| 07:32.56 | VIad | aha |
| 07:33.23 | VIad | I tbh havent looked at the itemstring for the keystones :/ |
| 07:33.33 | mfgmfg2 | item:138019::::::::110:260:6160384:::1516:9:7:2:1::: |
| 07:33.51 | VIad | I see. what about the level of the keystone? |
| 07:33.55 | VIad | 260? |
| 07:33.58 | mfgmfg2 | number after 1516 |
| 07:34.00 | nevcairiel | 9 |
| 07:34.04 | mfgmfg2 | 138019::::::::110:260:FLAGS:::INSTANCE_ID:MLEVEL:AFFIX1:AFFIX2:AFFIX3:UNK::: (UNK is 1 for not depleted, 2 for depleted) |
| 07:34.16 | nevcairiel | is there even a third affix |
| 07:34.17 | mfgmfg2 | but depletion info also is in the flags |
| 07:34.19 | nevcairiel | or just room |
| 07:34.20 | mfgmfg2 | for M10+ yes |
| 07:34.27 | mfgmfg2 | the flags don't support more than 3 affixes |
| 07:34.48 | VIad | so I guess there is enough info to retroactively change the links using AddMessage |
| 07:34.59 | nevcairiel | you can just use a chat filter |
| 07:35.03 | mfgmfg2 | i used ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter |
| 07:35.06 | nevcairiel | yeah that |
| 07:35.08 | VIad | probably that yes |
| 07:35.13 | mfgmfg2 | right now i don't support BN whispers |
| 07:35.21 | mfgmfg2 | since they strip color info and i was working with the colors |
| 07:35.31 | mfgmfg2 | for v0.2 i suppose |
| 07:35.35 | VIad | only thing I can recommend is do a sanity check |
| 07:36.32 | mfgmfg | VIad, for what? |
| 07:36.44 | VIad | for example I have an addon that prints its own messages, and sometimes other addons here and there had too simple pattern matching and replaced stuff in my links they were not looking for in the first place |
| 07:36.59 | VIad | like the structure of color, then item link and the text in the brackets |
| 07:37.07 | nevcairiel | all he would do is replace the name of the item in an existing link |
| 07:37.17 | nevcairiel | sounds like its safe =p |
| 07:37.32 | VIad | even if %[(.-)%] |
| 07:37.43 | mfgmfg | this may not be as robust as it could be, i don't have a ton of addons that modify messages |
| 07:37.57 | VIad | tbh I dont know if it is a issue |
| 07:37.59 | mfgmfg | line 21 is a mess |
| 07:38.03 | mfgmfg | and 38 |
| 07:38.04 | VIad | it could be if you AddMessage hook :p |
| 07:38.14 | VIad | but if you use the chat filters, it might not bother other addons |
| 07:38.37 | VIad | I just use AddMessage to print to the right chat, that probably avoids filters altogether |
| 07:38.52 | mfgmfg | i modify the color of the link if it's depleted. that could bother something out there. |
| 07:39.12 | VIad | too bad lua has only gsub with no flag "literal matching" |
| 07:39.17 | mfgmfg | VIad, i wasn't sure how that works with addons like WIM |
| 07:39.34 | mfgmfg | that have whispers in a separate floating frame |
| 07:39.35 | VIad | hopefully WIM respects chatfilters :p |
| 07:39.49 | mfgmfg | what i have works with WIM |
| 07:42.15 | VIad | only tip I have mfgmfg, you can add option for a "short" version |
| 07:42.40 | VIad | [Keystone: BRH+7/Bol/Ski/...] |
| 07:42.57 | VIad | 2 or 3 letter modifiers and the shorthand for the dungeon |
| 07:44.01 | mfgmfg | VIad, that means localizing strings |
| 07:44.03 | mfgmfg | i'm lazy |
| 07:44.17 | mfgmfg | but yeah I thought about that |
| 07:44.19 | VIad | just split at spaces, pick first two letters on each part |
| 07:44.29 | VIad | capitalize first letter in each split part as well :p |
| 07:44.40 | VIad | xd |
| 07:44.48 | mfgmfg | wonder what languages might have ambiguity if you did that |
| 07:45.00 | mfgmfg | and would it work for korea? |
| 07:45.11 | VIad | :3 |
| 07:45.13 | VIad | probably not |
| 07:45.22 | VIad | thats why I use something like that as an optional checkbox in my addon |
| 07:45.28 | mfgmfg | txt = string.format(CHALLENGE_MODE_KEYSTONE_NAME, txt) |
| 07:45.35 | VIad | it seems to work when I tested, but unsure if it makes sense :p |
| 07:45.47 | mfgmfg | CHALLENGE_MODE_KEYSTONE_NAME = "Keystone: %s"; |
| 07:46.10 | mfgmfg | <3 GlobalStrings.lua |
| 07:46.43 | VIad | one thing that bugs me with globalstrings is if you modify one of them, and some addons use them and make a local, since its a string the original text is stored, not referenced ,_, |
| 07:46.59 | mfgmfg | ew |
| 07:47.02 | VIad | wish lua had some way to reference to a variable pointer |
| 07:47.22 | VIad | so you could have a local ref to the pointer to where the data is ;p |
| 07:47.48 | VIad | I haven't had issues with this on my setup of addons |
| 07:48.19 | VIad | but had some back in the day that complained that my item tooltips were not in a valid format for it to handle :d |
| 07:48.24 | VIad | it probably loaded before mine |
| 07:49.26 | VIad | I realized that I sent a PM to two authors, but apparently there are two other maintainers, so sent them a PM instead :p |
| 07:49.34 | VIad | some projects have a ridiculus amount of coders |
| 07:49.39 | VIad | i.e. >1 |
| 07:50.16 | VIad | I guess that is what happens when the original author gives up and lets someone else keep updating it ;d |
| 07:50.51 | VIad | anyway in 7.1 Semlar, we lose the radar feature right? |
| 07:51.04 | VIad | like how DBM can show a radar and alert you if someone is too near for some mechanic |
| 07:51.24 | mfgmfg | VIad, probably back to spell range checks with no direction |
| 07:51.31 | VIad | yeah ofc |
| 07:51.37 | mfgmfg | Semlar, 3rd return value of C_ChallengeMode.GetAffixInfo(affixID) has the modifier descriptions - you don't need to store the strings in your addon and it could be self-localizing |
| 07:51.54 | VIad | and since we can create a minimap widget we can even use it for temporary boss combat |
| 07:52.11 | VIad | like zoom it in to the right level, add a circle on it to indicate what is the good/bad area around the player |
| 07:52.39 | VIad | add spells for range checks, and we can be back to cirka what we had. but the problem is blizz will just patch it |
| 07:52.45 | VIad | by breaking range checks even further :/ |
| 07:53.01 | VIad | this is how you get underground addon communities :p |
| 07:53.20 | VIad | soon we'll have no public addons with the abuse of API we know will get fixed if it becomes a widespread thing |
| 07:53.30 | Semlar | orly |
| 07:53.42 | VIad | but have a hidden community with people that use these addons just in hopes they dont get fixed :p |
| 07:53.42 | Semlar | i didn't even know there was a challenge mode api |
| 07:53.50 | mfgmfg | 2nd value i mean semlar |
| 07:53.51 | mfgmfg | try /dump C_ChallengeMode.GetAffixInfo(10) |
| 07:54.05 | mfgmfg | not sure what the 3rd value is |
| 07:54.37 | mfgmfg | they're a bit wordy at times though, compared to the strings you have |
| 07:54.43 | Semlar | the 3rd value is how many times i've wiped on cenarius tonight |
| 07:55.38 | VIad | Semlar: heroic? |
| 07:55.42 | Semlar | yes |
| 07:55.51 | VIad | some days ago you said you were guildless |
| 07:55.54 | Semlar | it's a pug |
| 07:55.55 | VIad | didn't know you pugged heroic :d |
| 07:55.59 | Semlar | and i didn't say i was guildless |
| 07:56.06 | VIad | actively raiding then |
| 07:56.24 | Semlar | it's a pug with like zero organization |
| 07:56.29 | Semlar | this is awesome |
| 07:59.18 | VIad | :D |
| 07:59.24 | VIad | did you do all the bosses before? |
| 07:59.36 | VIad | I only managed to do full normal this week, and 2 HC bosses, first and spider |
| 07:59.45 | VIad | I didnt do any the week before :< |
| 08:00.05 | VIad | but after reset I hope I can find one of those "link xavius" to clear normal in some hours, and only focus on HC the rest of the week |
| 08:05.23 | VIad | Semlar: how is the fight different on HC? |
| 08:05.32 | Semlar | more damage |
| 08:05.41 | VIad | no ntwists? |
| 08:06.07 | Semlar | the debuff slows you |
| 08:06.22 | Semlar | scorned touch or whatever it's called |
| 08:06.26 | VIad | yeah |
| 08:06.40 | VIad | you didnt wipe on tanks messing up? |
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| 08:08.36 | Semlar | no |
| 08:08.50 | Semlar | literally the only issue on the fight is brambles one shotting everyone who kites it through the fucking raid |
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| 08:16.01 | VIad | seems like a easy fix. how is your dps? curious |
| 08:16.17 | VIad | I guess a bit cheat since you have adds to aoe with your cleave shot :p |
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| 08:49.01 | Simca | they said they were going to make all spells the same range in 7.1 to break spell range check stuff (i.e. melee spells will be 5, ranged spells will be 30/40) |
| 08:49.18 | VIad | Simca: toys? |
| 08:49.21 | Simca | i wonder if they are actually serious about that though, because that's a serious gameplay sacrifice |
| 08:49.42 | Simca | rogues get +3 yards on melee abilities with a talent |
| 08:49.52 | Simca | rets' wrath of justice is 12 yards by design |
| 08:50.02 | Simca | is that going to be nerfed to 5? is the talent for rogues getting removed? |
| 08:50.30 | VIad | dont think they will do that |
| 08:50.51 | Simca | the entire thing feels like it had very little thought going into it |
| 08:50.55 | VIad | yeah |
| 08:50.57 | VIad | like the camera thing |
| 08:51.01 | VIad | let's just do this change |
| 08:51.07 | VIad | because we feel like it helps |
| 08:51.35 | Simca | like nobody sat down and did an analysis on how people could mitigate it or the community's opinion of whether it should even change |
| 08:51.48 | Simca | they were just like "let's do this thing" |
| 08:51.52 | Simca | and it was done |
| 08:52.27 | VIad | they could have asked some top members from the community on their view, like raiding mythic guilds and pvpers and whatnot. since just asking everyone usually is "I dont like change" for anything that looks like a nerf :p |
| 08:52.54 | modernist | hasnt that been the case with most of the class changes too this time around? |
| 08:52.55 | VIad | range checks sounds like a raid thing, so ask mythic raiding guilds to find out what they think |
| 08:52.58 | Simca | it's weird though, i would have expected them to think this through better |
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| 08:53.11 | VIad | I am not sure how the radar change will help anything |
| 08:53.26 | VIad | pugged this week, the radar didnt really help at all :p |
| 08:53.41 | VIad | everyone uses DBM, they /s stuff, but they cba to watch the radar anyways |
| 08:53.47 | modernist | it was something to do with the BRF boss specifically right? |
| 08:54.04 | Simca | uh, no |
| 08:54.07 | VIad | archimonde laserbeams was easier with the radar thing |
| 08:54.09 | Shockah|Work | the radar helped back on Archimonde |
| 08:54.15 | VIad | but thats the only situation |
| 08:54.15 | Simca | some heroic HFC stuff |
| 08:54.24 | VIad | where radar was useful in raiding history |
| 08:54.27 | VIad | at least on that scale :p |
| 08:54.41 | modernist | also, the DBM stuff with positioning on stuff like xavius' daggers or whatever seemed more egregious |
| 08:54.49 | modernist | in my run this week |
| 08:54.54 | VIad | but the other strat was just to have odd/even numbers and have people line up in two lines like other guilds did it |
| 08:54.54 | Simca | VIad: maybe in warlords. |
| 08:55.08 | Simca | but it was obviously critical at various points in the past |
| 08:55.20 | Simca | it's irrelevant though, the radar isn't why they did this |
| 08:55.30 | VIad | just me knowing "ok, you are out of range so you can drop the bomb here" is a neat thing |
| 08:55.36 | nevcairiel | basic distance radars was not their main concern, it was addons like archimondes chaos radar and stuff like kromrog where an addon told you where to go |
| 08:55.40 | VIad | they wanted less addons to tell people how to play right? |
| 08:55.48 | Simca | no, VIad |
| 08:56.10 | VIad | so remove raid markings on players? |
| 08:56.13 | VIad | make it a hardware event |
| 08:56.20 | Simca | it had to do with world interaction and the resurrection of AMR-like addons |
| 08:56.26 | Simca | it had nothing to do with raid marking |
| 08:56.29 | VIad | lol |
| 08:56.34 | VIad | AMR been dead for so long |
| 08:56.50 | Simca | addons were getting very close to it in late HFC |
| 08:56.50 | nevcairiel | AVR* |
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| 08:56.58 | Simca | err, yeah |
| 08:57.11 | VIad | people only used bigwigs or dbm and none had any AVR features in them |
| 08:57.17 | VIad | except some annoying arrow markings that are not needed |
| 08:57.19 | Simca | "people" |
| 08:57.31 | nevcairiel | DBMs full screen radar comes pretty close =p |
| 08:58.00 | VIad | that only says "that tank will explode, beware" but it can also be done with a simple raidmark :P |
| 08:58.20 | Simca | the bad features in question were mainly restricted to mythic raiding and not part of dbm or bigwigs |
| 08:58.37 | nevcairiel | re: spell ranges, i havent heard that before, that they want to unify shit for this, its not like you can really take huge advantage of that, even with a few more ranges to use estimations will be hugely inaccurate without an accurate distance |
| 08:59.18 | VIad | one will simply make an addon to send position updates in intervals to tell others where you are |
| 08:59.31 | Simca | you can't get positions |
| 08:59.33 | VIad | if the issue is mythic raiders using addons to make some stuff trivial |
| 08:59.33 | nevcairiel | you dont know your own position |
| 08:59.38 | VIad | ah ok |
| 08:59.48 | Simca | Guill had said here before that they were going to make a pass on spell ranges in 7.1 |
| 08:59.52 | Simca | @nev |
| 08:59.55 | VIad | so what, next step is tool assisted network packet parsing for positions? :p |
| 09:00.05 | VIad | and someone broadcasting the data in the addon channel |
| 09:00.17 | VIad | or just read out the critical info |
| 09:00.44 | Simca | yes, if I were packet sniffing, I would certainly want to signify that with an addon, like wearing a sign that says "please insert ban here" |
| 09:00.49 | Simca | that's a horrid idea |
| 09:02.31 | nevcairiel | Simca: well so far the disabled UnitPosition etc are up on the ptr, and spell changes are not, and there is various classes with talents that increase or modify the range, so I doubt its going to be such a blanekt unification of e verything |
| 09:03.05 | Simca | and if there isn't, then radar functionality will be restored |
| 09:03.26 | nevcairiel | not even close to accurate |
| 09:03.43 | Simca | depends wildly on spec and boss mechanic |
| 09:03.48 | nevcairiel | not to mention that relative position to other players doesnt allow the big problem addons that came up in HFC |
| 09:04.04 | nevcairiel | where absolute position in the ro om was a main concern as well |
| 09:04.12 | Simca | yeah, it doesn't |
| 09:06.45 | Semlar | every time we wipe i get player kills toward my hidden artifact appearance |
| 09:06.53 | Shockah|Work | what |
| 09:07.01 | Shockah|Work | that's hilarious |
| 09:07.03 | nevcairiel | your own? |
| 09:07.11 | nevcairiel | or on some boss where you can kill other players? |
| 09:07.12 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 09:09.26 | VIad | can't toy ranges be used too? |
| 09:09.32 | VIad | some toys have ranges :p |
| 09:11.18 | nevcairiel | yes you can use items too |
| 09:12.16 | VIad | but they probably won't have eventually, when they stomp the range checks |
| 09:13.38 | Andols | Have they said that they are going to break range checks? |
| 09:13.53 | nevcairiel | not range checks as such, just accurate position checks |
| 09:14.50 | Andols | Can't really say that it is accurate now :p |
| 09:15.08 | nevcairiel | actually it is |
| 09:15.15 | VIad | UnitPosition is the most accurate you get |
| 09:15.21 | VIad | for the player ofc :p |
| 09:15.26 | nevcairiel | you get perfectly accurate positions of your own unit and other raid/party members |
| 09:15.27 | VIad | or did it work on groupies too? |
| 09:15.34 | VIad | ah neat |
| 09:16.00 | VIad | -pets I think |
| 09:16.10 | VIad | think I heard pets didnt return proper positions |
| 09:16.28 | nevcairiel | who knows, those are not very important |
| 09:16.29 | Stanzilla | also of your mom |
| 09:16.34 | ls- | :D |
| 09:16.40 | Andols | I thought about LibRangeChecks returns :p |
| 09:17.21 | Andols | 0â5, 5-8, 8-10 10-15 etc (I think the intervals is) |
| 09:18.01 | VIad | mom position is irrelevant, it's always 0,0,0 because she is so large it covers the map anyways |
| 09:18.37 | modernist | never change, irc |
| 09:18.39 | ls- | Mom is the centre of universe |
| 09:19.20 | modernist | i just remembered a bunch of world quests i did in the first couple of days that i have never again seen |
| 09:19.28 | Semlar | every time i die counts |
| 09:19.39 | nevcairiel | try sucide |
| 09:19.42 | nevcairiel | suicide |
| 09:19.59 | Semlar | and i don't know what else counts, because it also seems like when people die after i do i get credit |
| 09:20.03 | modernist | killed a magister on the rooftops in surumar, a big demon boss at the southern tip of felsoul hold |
| 09:20.17 | modernist | has anyone done those recently? |
| 09:20.26 | Semlar | i'm up to 591 player kils |
| 09:20.29 | Semlar | kills |
| 09:20.35 | nevcairiel | some are definitely rare, i had a rare boss in highmountain for the first time yesterday |
| 09:20.49 | VIad | but they are realm wide right? :3 |
| 09:20.56 | nevcairiel | region, even |
| 09:21.14 | VIad | oh |
| 09:21.17 | modernist | oh yeah the shadow guy in the kobold cave? |
| 09:21.31 | modernist | they might even be worldwide, assuming your US-based |
| 09:21.35 | VIad | :p |
| 09:21.40 | nevcairiel | nah, that one i had before, the other guy with the troll-ish name on the snow mountain |
| 09:21.40 | VIad | EU ftw |
| 09:21.54 | nevcairiel | oubdub da smasha or something |
| 09:21.59 | modernist | oh yeah, right |
| 09:22.07 | VIad | had him several times in my WQ |
| 09:22.19 | modernist | it took most of our 30man group finder raid about 10 minutes to find the path for him |
| 09:22.48 | modernist | some of them went into nelths lair and cleared about half of it |
| 09:22.53 | modernist | which was impressive |
| 09:23.03 | nevcairiel | after oubdub i still lack 2 rares in highmountain that are presumably only up when they have a world quest |
| 09:23.05 | nevcairiel | not seen yet |
| 09:23.39 | modernist | i like that aspect, if they are treated as a cycled selection of rare quests |
| 09:24.01 | modernist | less that its augmented with that squirrel nutcracking quest every single day |
| 09:24.23 | VIad | the world boss gave me 1000 AP, the day before some kill ogres in the mountains quest gave me 1025 AP >_> |
| 09:24.32 | VIad | world boss was epic colored, the ogres one was blue |
| 09:24.44 | VIad | "but viad you can get gear from the boss" |
| 09:25.04 | VIad | yeah sure, but many just tag and afk it out anyways so not a valid argument. the ogre one you usually engage actively :p |
| 09:25.49 | VIad | also since WOD the drop rules changed to PL only, right? |
| 09:25.56 | VIad | I went highmaul 10 man solo |
| 09:26.02 | VIad | the drops behaved like PL |
| 09:26.20 | nevcairiel | you should be able to change it in raids |
| 09:26.27 | VIad | I had it set to group loot |
| 09:26.38 | VIad | when I went in with my friend first, he needed kargath |
| 09:26.41 | VIad | but still PL behavior |
| 09:26.48 | VIad | when he left the options went away since I was alone :p |
| 09:26.54 | VIad | but when bosses died they gave me gold |
| 09:27.26 | VIad | I think the scale drop system is weird. maybe it doesn't consider me a "10 man raid" and drops 0-1 items sometimes |
| 09:27.32 | VIad | shouldnt 10 players = 2 drops |
| 09:27.39 | VIad | and it scales up the more people are in the group? |
| 09:27.52 | VIad | but when solo it definetly doesn't give me 2 items, it only gave me items I could use |
| 09:28.04 | VIad | so if you go in as a cat druid, you are not eligible to get healer gear |
| 09:28.18 | VIad | you like have to specify loot for yourself for the PL system to care |
| 09:28.37 | nevcairiel | it doesnt work like that, because even in a 10m raid you can have 9 people already on loot lockout |
| 09:28.46 | nevcairiel | so it always counts the number of people elligible for loot |
| 09:28.53 | nevcairiel | which kinda sucks for old content gear farming, i guess |
| 09:29.04 | VIad | it only behaves like this wod+ |
| 09:29.18 | VIad | cata raids easily just drop like before, 10/25, 2 vs 5 items |
| 09:29.22 | nevcairiel | SoO might as wlel, since its also on flexible |
| 09:29.22 | VIad | or whatever the numbers were :p |
| 09:29.27 | VIad | right |
| 09:29.42 | VIad | so I guess all the new raids that use the flex system will drop nothing ,_, |
| 09:29.52 | VIad | my DH can't do the raid for healer leather gear |
| 09:29.57 | VIad | for transmogs |
| 09:30.52 | VIad | the minimum amount you can go is 10 people, right. so the loot should consider like, max(10,eligible) for the amount of stuff to drop |
| 09:31.21 | VIad | and when not using the PL option, i.e. GL or soloing (FFA) then it should just default to not caring about the "can this player use this?" |
| 09:31.53 | VIad | going old raids feels nicer, you know the rules, you get loot regardless if you can use it or not, it's fine |
| 09:32.07 | VIad | just newer raids, the new rules are weird when farming them for transmogs |
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| 09:35.09 | VIad | nevcairiel: do you know if the legion changes to loot rules, made the flex raids behave like this? |
| 09:35.18 | VIad | or was this a thing from day 1 when they added flex? |
| 09:35.46 | nevcairiel | flex always did this |
| 09:35.59 | nevcairiel | it counts the number of loot elligible people, regardless of group size |
| 09:36.07 | nevcairiel | which for a normal raid is what needs to happen |
| 09:36.25 | nevcairiel | for soloing old content its annoying, can always petition them to drop more, but doubtful its going to happen |
| 09:36.41 | VIad | but flex scales minimum to 10, so wouldnt it make more sense that it drops max(10, eliigble) ? |
| 09:36.44 | Shockah|Work | the forced personal loot change is annoying to begin with |
| 09:36.59 | VIad | so what if you manage to kill a boss with 2 people, and it drops items appropriate for 10 :p |
| 09:36.59 | nebula | if you have 10 people that are loot locked, shit ain't gonna drop |
| 09:37.06 | nebula | and min is 8 |
| 09:37.09 | nevcairiel | VIad: why would that make sense, then you can just run with 1 elligible person in the raid and always get 2 items? :p |
| 09:37.22 | VIad | loot locked can't receive loot anyways |
| 09:37.26 | VIad | even if it would drop |
| 09:37.30 | nevcairiel | but that one person would get way too much |
| 09:37.35 | nevcairiel | perfect strat for gearing people |
| 09:37.43 | VIad | even if it only works pre-legion raids? |
| 09:38.19 | VIad | "but viad what about the wod guilds that only do wod raids" |
| 09:38.35 | nebula | more like but VIad, blizzard doesn't give a fuck. |
| 09:38.42 | VIad | :d |
| 09:38.44 | nevcairiel | just go buy bonus roll tokens for double chances! |
| 09:38.47 | VIad | that is a statement I could get behind |
| 09:39.06 | VIad | but it seems like a easy fix |
| 09:39.34 | VIad | if they only cared :( |
| 09:41.38 | VIad | I wonder what the oldest ticket in the dev "to do" list is :p |
| 09:41.49 | VIad | on blizz side that is |
| 09:43.25 | VIad | like grid has a ticket from 2014 that is accepted but still open ticket :d |
| 09:44.20 | VIad | or 2009 for pitbull with high priority :d |
| 09:50.22 | VIad | I need to get away from dropdown templates |
| 09:50.29 | VIad | I dont know why I use them at all |
| 09:50.39 | VIad | it just brings more headaches and I should know better |
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| 09:57.50 | modernist | VIad: blink bug |
| 09:58.02 | LexSfX | VIad: "accepted" just means the problem is acknowledged, not that work has started on fixing it |
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| 10:05.34 | VIad | modernist: what kind of bug? |
| 10:05.46 | VIad | LexSfX: yeah, but it means its on the "to do" list :p |
| 10:06.05 | modernist | http://blog.mckaysalisbury.com/2009/07/world-of-warcraft-blink-bug-explained.html |
| 10:06.19 | LexSfX | VIad: not necessarily, if the dev doesn't really care about it |
| 10:06.33 | VIad | then you decline and close it? |
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| 10:07.01 | LexSfX | no, then you accept that it is a problem |
| 10:07.07 | LexSfX | but just don't change it to "started" ever |
| 10:07.08 | LexSfX | lol |
| 10:07.17 | LexSfX | someone else can submit a patch if they want it fixed |
| 10:07.27 | LexSfX | or improved (usually for enhancements) |
| 10:07.41 | ls- | it's like you accept the fact that bug is there... |
| 10:07.51 | ls- | it doesn't mean that you're going to do anything about it |
| 10:08.29 | LexSfX | yeah |
| 10:08.31 | modernist | there should be a "quiet purgatory" selection in the ticket dropdown |
| 10:10.19 | VIad | modernist: I thought you first meant the blink on elevator and the talent to go back in time, that placed you in a random position in the map you were on :p |
| 10:10.38 | modernist | oh that one was fun |
| 10:11.01 | VIad | gate of the setting sun takes you to a unfinished version of the continent, where kunlai summit was only drawings on floor saying "mantis" here and there |
| 10:11.20 | VIad | blackwing decent was boring, only used the elwynn skybox outside of it ,_, |
| 10:11.38 | VIad | vashjir one took you outside, you could kill ozumat whenyou were supposed to see him at the elevator :d |
| 10:15.14 | modernist | do you think i can justify the hourly rate for spending 40 minutes getting this div the exact relative dimensions of an a4 sheet of paper |
| 10:16.56 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/KltQxdc.png |
| 10:16.59 | znf | reduced by 100% |
| 10:17.00 | znf | ... |
| 10:20.47 | VIad | you heal for 1 I guess |
| 10:22.27 | VIad | I remember healing for 1 when having 100% healing reduction back in the day |
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| 10:25.28 | VIad | google turns 18 today :o |
| 10:26.03 | VIad | google can now show mature results without legal complications |
| 10:26.11 | VIad | and legally drink |
| 10:33.26 | VIad | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/54jgec/can_gold_from_bonus_rolls_get_changed_to_artifact/ |
| 10:33.44 | VIad | is good - "uses bonus roll that costs 1k gold. rolls gold. 25 gold. >_>" |
| 10:36.12 | modernist | those up/downvote textures are godawful |
| 10:36.19 | karl_w_w | google is american VIad, they don't let people be responsible for themselves until 21 |
| 10:36.33 | nevcairiel | but they let you run people over in cars with 16 |
| 10:36.56 | karl_w_w | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 10:39.06 | znf | They really need to "fix" herbalism somehow |
| 10:39.11 | znf | Even herbalists hate Starlight Rose |
| 10:39.30 | nevcairiel | i th ink they are fine |
| 10:39.45 | znf | you're a herbalist making bank, shut up :D |
| 10:40.01 | nevcairiel | didnt you just say we hate them |
| 10:40.08 | znf | you have rank 3 of starlight? |
| 10:40.14 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 10:40.20 | znf | that's why you don't hate them :D |
| 10:40.32 | nevcairiel | just gotta keep herbing and not whine |
| 10:41.05 | znf | Still too expensive to use flasks in pugs |
| 10:41.31 | znf | And tomes are ridiculously expensive, too, because everyone is pouring herbs into alchemy and not inscription |
| 10:41.39 | znf | You'd be insane to mill herbs right now, it seems |
| 10:41.41 | Stanzilla | what if you make wine from the herbs |
| 10:41.42 | Stanzilla | WHAT IF |
| 10:41.53 | nevcairiel | just mill aethril |
| 10:42.01 | nevcairiel | you can collect 400 in 30 minutes or so |
| 10:42.32 | nevcairiel | at one time i had like 5000 aethril when i was farming for rank 3 there |
| 10:42.33 | znf | btw, how do professions work on boosted chars right now? |
| 10:42.42 | znf | you get lvl1? |
| 10:42.51 | znf | or you get them dinged to ~700? |
| 10:43.08 | nevcairiel | like they always have, if you boost a lvl 1 you dont get profession boosts, if you boost a lvl 60+ you get your profession boosted |
| 10:43.19 | znf | cool |
| 10:43.28 | VIad | screw pugs that require flasks |
| 10:43.33 | nevcairiel | not that you actually need high professions in legion |
| 10:43.38 | znf | VIad, yeah, I don't join them either |
| 10:43.47 | VIad | flask doesn't mean good group :p |
| 10:43.55 | VIad | retards with flasks or without won't kill the boss |
| 10:44.02 | nevcairiel | flasks means dedicated group, i dont want scrubs that dont bother to buff up =p |
| 10:44.04 | znf | You pop a flask, then wait 30 minutes for the group to fill back up, because tank had to go |
| 10:44.25 | znf | I was in a group last night, I think we did 2 pulls in 1 hour, because people kept leaving randomly |
| 10:44.31 | nevcairiel | but i'm an alchemist, i just laugh at you and your price concerns |
| 10:44.44 | znf | So we had to find a tank/healer again, then either summon them or wait for them to arrive |
| 10:44.57 | znf | then another guy left next pull because he was tired and he had to go to sleep and so on |
| 10:45.15 | znf | which also makes me go WTF at people - why you raid late night if you need to go to sleep? what is wrong with you? |
| 10:45.28 | VIad | depends. if I want to kill 1 boss |
| 10:45.36 | VIad | 1 hour is like stretching it :p |
| 10:45.41 | znf | This was a heroic run |
| 10:45.42 | VIad | 2 hours is usually my max |
| 10:45.53 | VIad | 2/3 hours and I start lose sanity |
| 10:45.55 | znf | You expect to kill a boss in 1 shot on heroic on the first week of the raid release, in a pug? |
| 10:46.05 | VIad | no. thats why I will do more HC next week ;d |
| 10:46.16 | VIad | give people a week time to get used to HC |
| 10:46.27 | VIad | did my normal this week |
| 10:46.30 | znf | sure, Ursoc is easy as hell, it's basically just a dps check |
| 10:46.32 | VIad | so I am happy about that |
| 10:46.44 | VIad | if you have tanks that do their thing right :p |
| 10:46.53 | znf | But people will still fail to that simple mechanic of not getting charged twice in a fucking row |
| 10:46.56 | VIad | that was a bit hard on my pug actually, but since normal I survived |
| 10:47.06 | znf | normal is different tough |
| 10:47.10 | nevcairiel | HC has really tight damage requirements, so i wouldnt expect pugs to be that much fun for now, or require kicking people all the time until you get good dpsers |
| 10:47.35 | znf | you have to stack all the time around the boss to spread the roar damage |
| 10:47.41 | znf | (on heroic, that is) |
| 10:47.52 | VIad | I will anyway focus HC on the last tier |
| 10:47.59 | VIad | atm just normal complete is a milestone :p |
| 10:48.06 | znf | 1st boss is easy, tough |
| 10:48.15 | VIad | znf: dunno, yesterday we barely had the dps |
| 10:48.23 | znf | that's another issue, then :) |
| 10:48.24 | nebula | dragons are pretty easy, too |
| 10:48.25 | VIad | pug wasnt bad, just lacked dps and a little brain |
| 10:48.36 | VIad | stayed because I saw they could do it :p |
| 10:48.42 | znf | Took us 3 attempts, I think, for 1st boss on Heroic |
| 10:48.45 | nevcairiel | so, they didnt have anything? |
| 10:48.49 | nevcairiel | no dps or brains? |
| 10:48.49 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 10:48.57 | znf | thats' ~1 hour, because people keep leaving |
| 10:48.58 | znf | :P |
| 10:49.11 | znf | Again I don't understand people |
| 10:49.13 | VIad | they had like a half brain :d |
| 10:49.26 | znf | You do the first pull, you bring the boss down to about 35-40% |
| 10:49.34 | znf | But you decide it's not worth it, and the group sucks, so you leave |
| 10:49.35 | znf | ??!! |
| 10:49.45 | VIad | it's not hard to place puddles on one side, then dance around them as they come in. but apparently dodging goop is hard :d |
| 10:49.58 | VIad | like they wanted to keep a side clear and it was kind of clean |
| 10:50.00 | znf | If you place them properly on the side, you don't have to dance :D |
| 10:50.09 | VIad | but when boss sucked up the goop, people STILL stood in the side with the goop |
| 10:50.15 | VIad | while I of course moved to the cleanest side :p |
| 10:50.20 | VIad | just made no sense |
| 10:50.27 | VIad | still made it but makes no sense why you'd do that |
| 10:50.37 | VIad | "did you even do this on normal?" was my first thought |
| 10:50.39 | znf | The guy who explains the tactics also has to explain it like to 5 year olds |
| 10:50.58 | nevcairiel | we always had people not notice the big bugs fast enough |
| 10:51.08 | nevcairiel | so they get loads of damage or death from them |
| 10:51.10 | znf | I pugged Xavius, and until some guy came and explained them clearly in 5-year-talk to everyone in the group, we kept failing |
| 10:51.23 | VIad | normal xavius? |
| 10:51.26 | znf | Guy comes, explains, 1st attempt, 20% or so, next one killed |
| 10:51.27 | znf | yeah |
| 10:51.38 | VIad | it seems you can keep the add near the boss and just cleave it down |
| 10:51.39 | znf | People suck so badly in the dream :-/ |
| 10:51.50 | VIad | just have the other tank face it away ofc |
| 10:51.51 | Xuerian | If whoever is running the group can't explain it at that level |
| 10:51.57 | Stanzilla | double surrender master race |
| 10:52.02 | Xuerian | They need to stop running groups and question their choices |
| 10:52.07 | znf | And then you die. Horribly. |
| 10:52.11 | nevcairiel | normal xavius is so easy, as long as you have two tanks that can taunt when needed and healers that dont dispel too early |
| 10:52.22 | znf | nevcairiel, too many things can go wrong :D |
| 10:52.28 | VIad | nevcairiel: boss tank can just tank boss 24/7 |
| 10:52.33 | znf | Healers dispelling badly is one thing |
| 10:52.38 | VIad | melee just have to stay those >15yd away from tank :p |
| 10:52.39 | nebula | it's pretty terrible with 10 people |
| 10:52.41 | VIad | when dispel happens |
| 10:52.47 | znf | And DPS nto absorbing the puddles in 2nd phase is another thing |
| 10:52.48 | nevcairiel | VIad: with the 150% buff in p2/3? that sounds painful =p |
| 10:52.57 | nebula | since the need to dispel doesn't decrease with raid size |
| 10:53.00 | VIad | the dream tank then goes around to add and soak stuff |
| 10:53.10 | znf | because apparently people can't seem to understand the dream |
| 10:53.11 | VIad | nevcairiel: thats how we did my xavius |
| 10:53.27 | VIad | warrior tank boss, I did adds and soaking of pools |
| 10:53.29 | nevcairiel | in p1 you dont really tank swap, but in 2 and 3 you should realy swap for the 150% damage taken buff, it just hurts |
| 10:53.44 | znf | Speaking of, what's the purpose of the dream people in P1? Just go around the small adds? |
| 10:53.45 | VIad | well |
| 10:53.50 | VIad | I think we swapped at the later phases yes |
| 10:53.54 | nevcairiel | znf: small adds yes |
| 10:53.56 | VIad | just remembered wrong |
| 10:54.09 | VIad | dream means you don't get mindcontrolled when its 100% |
| 10:54.09 | nevcairiel | and healers dispel of course |
| 10:54.11 | nebula | and dispels |
| 10:54.17 | VIad | so you can use that to counter mechanics |
| 10:54.29 | VIad | a guild should get to p2 without any dreams breaking :p |
| 10:54.44 | VIad | a lot of people didnt get the fact you had to soak the poop when adds died in p2 |
| 10:54.56 | VIad | so I had to like, get to high corruption levels to make sure adds didnt spawn again |
| 10:55.07 | nevcairiel | in a perfet world you would keep melees without dream away from the big add, but on normal and maybe heroic you can probably just cleave it at the boss, dunno for mythic |
| 10:55.11 | znf | nevcairiel, do you just have to attack them or just be near them? |
| 10:55.19 | nevcairiel | make them run into you |
| 10:55.23 | znf | ah |
| 10:55.35 | znf | I kept trying to target them first time |
| 10:55.56 | nevcairiel | well you can target and attack them, but its not worth trying to kill them |
| 10:56.06 | nevcairiel | enough dream around |
| 10:56.22 | znf | I don't think you can actually do that, at least I wasn't succesful to cast SWP on them |
| 10:56.23 | nevcairiel | and yeah soaking in p2/3 can be annoying if your people dont know shit |
| 10:57.45 | nebula | big add nova hits everyone, we basically stack them with the boss tank edged out a bit so no one gets hit when dispelled |
| 10:57.47 | nevcairiel | our first try i got MC'ed as a tank at around 10% because i soaked too much :p |
| 10:58.02 | nevcairiel | second we killed him |
| 10:58.04 | nevcairiel | so there was that |
| 10:59.14 | znf | hmmm |
| 10:59.21 | znf | wonder if I can use this on the world boss: http://i.imgur.com/BVufyOl.png |
| 10:59.52 | nebula | maybe, it just does like 1m damage or something |
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| 11:00.53 | znf | it's based on size of the mob |
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| 11:01.09 | znf | or at least it was |
| 11:01.36 | nevcairiel | it kills the small ones in that area, but if you hit some of the bigger mobs they survive |
| 11:01.56 | Stanzilla | xavius was super boring |
| 11:02.03 | nebula | yea, it doesn't kill the sea giant mobs, does like 50% of their hp |
| 11:02.16 | nevcairiel | does like 70% to the myrmiddons |
| 11:02.22 | nevcairiel | (bigger nagas) |
| 11:02.33 | Stanzilla | I totally read that as bigger niggas |
| 11:02.36 | Stanzilla | I blame you |
| 11:02.52 | nevcairiel | we cant help that you urge for that |
| 11:03.01 | nebula | should blame your grandma |
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| 11:03.28 | znf | can all the fucking +AP items be instant-cast? |
| 11:03.29 | znf | god damn it |
| 11:04.53 | Stanzilla | I Just have a great connection with teh african american community |
| 11:05.09 | VIad | nevcairiel: the add nova aoe is quite large, looked like 20/30yd |
| 11:05.17 | Stanzilla | I think he said relationship though |
| 11:06.08 | nevcairiel | VIad: it is, not sure if its needed to fully separate it on heroic or mythic, but on normal you can just stack it up |
| 11:06.43 | nebula | nova is 300 yards |
| 11:07.00 | nebula | there's no avoiding it |
| 11:07.10 | VIad | on mythic probably a aura buff on boss? |
| 11:07.15 | VIad | otherwise its stackable then :p |
| 11:07.22 | VIad | just avoid cleaving others, hehe |
| 11:07.52 | nevcairiel | did they change the nova then? it used to say 20y in beta sometime |
| 11:07.54 | VIad | (since the add has a frontal cone cleave) |
| 11:08.01 | znf | totally not worth the corpse run: http://i.imgur.com/u9x7q6J.png |
| 11:08.04 | nevcairiel | so best to just burst it down then |
| 11:08.07 | VIad | nevcairiel: maybe LFR? |
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| 11:08.23 | nevcairiel | just seems to scale dps base on difficulty |
| 11:08.39 | nevcairiel | Value: 513000 to 567000 - Normal |
| 11:08.39 | nevcairiel | Value: 718200 to 793800 - Heroic |
| 11:08.39 | nevcairiel | Value: 972000 to 1071000 - Mythic |
| 11:08.39 | nevcairiel | Value: 256500 to 283500 - Raid Finder |
| 11:08.39 | nevcairiel | Radius: 300 yards |
| 11:08.49 | VIad | or maybe they made it 300yd so it wasnt a rdps>mdps fight :p |
| 11:09.04 | VIad | so melee can get some love too |
| 11:09.30 | nevcairiel | guess that makes that easier, put close to the boss for cleavage and burst it down |
| 11:09.34 | znf | so, in the end, it's one world boss per week, it seems |
| 11:10.32 | VIad | so if you want the achievement to kill all the bosses and you miss one week :p |
| 11:10.34 | VIad | wait a year ;d |
| 11:10.42 | nevcairiel | more like wait 3 months |
| 11:10.44 | nevcairiel | but yeah |
| 11:10.58 | nevcairiel | and i think its 8 of the 11 |
| 11:11.03 | nevcairiel | so its not that evil |
| 11:11.08 | znf | not sure why they made so mahy |
| 11:11.11 | znf | many |
| 11:11.19 | nevcairiel | variation |
| 11:11.22 | nebula | variety is the spice of life |
| 11:11.32 | VIad | pixel variation, probably not hard ;d |
| 11:11.42 | znf | I've never seen a few on them on the beta |
| 11:11.42 | VIad | or will there be harder fights? |
| 11:11.58 | VIad | on beta they were up pretty often for testing purposes |
| 11:11.59 | nevcairiel | its world bosses, their difficulty dependso n how many idiots came along =p |
| 11:12.04 | znf | like Ana-Mouz, Flotsam, Na'Zak, Shar'Thos and The Soultaker |
| 11:12.18 | znf | never seen those up |
| 11:12.19 | nebula | i think they're all pretty face roll, but getting hit by the few mechanics is pretty deadly |
| 11:12.41 | nevcairiel | i did nazak and sharthos, and at least saw flotsam up once |
| 11:12.56 | znf | If you're a tard, you can cause a lot of pain at Withered Jim :D |
| 11:13.18 | znf | for everyone, I mean |
| 11:14.04 | znf | oh, yeah, I saw Floatsam up, once, too |
| 11:14.28 | znf | but I wasn't 110 back then on the beta |
| 11:18.30 | VIad | at what mythic level do the chests drop 850+ gear? |
| 11:18.40 | VIad | since it was capped at 850 this week its hard to tell |
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| 11:19.11 | VIad | does each M+ level add 5 ilvl to some 830 base gear? |
| 11:19.15 | znf | 4 I think? |
| 11:19.29 | VIad | M+1 = 835, M+2 = 840, and so on |
| 11:19.38 | znf | huh? |
| 11:19.47 | znf | Mythic is 840 |
| 11:19.50 | nevcairiel | its 840 base, and there is no +1 |
| 11:19.54 | VIad | aha, ok |
| 11:19.54 | nevcairiel | +1 is normal mythic |
| 11:20.06 | Semlar | up to 697 player kills |
| 11:20.07 | VIad | M+1 = 840, M+2 = 845, M+3 = 850, wat? |
| 11:20.15 | nevcairiel | and it only increases every second level |
| 11:20.23 | VIad | aha |
| 11:20.33 | znf | M3 is 845 |
| 11:20.35 | Semlar | i'm going to unlock this artifact color just from dying |
| 11:20.44 | nevcairiel | so 2/3 = 845, 4/5 = 850, 6/7 = 855, 8/9 = 860, 10+ = 865, with 865 being the maximum |
| 11:20.58 | nevcairiel | Semlar: you did 200 times the last hour? |
| 11:21.02 | znf | they are capped at 865? |
| 11:21.05 | znf | Even for M+15? |
| 11:21.06 | znf | :-/ |
| 11:21.07 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 11:21.14 | VIad | so they dont make raid trivial :p |
| 11:21.16 | Semlar | i died like 50 times probably |
| 11:21.18 | nevcairiel | 865 immediate and 880 in the chest |
| 11:21.20 | znf | that's gay |
| 11:21.30 | VIad | thats why you get 850 capped items in this week |
| 11:21.33 | nevcairiel | chest is always 15 higher |
| 11:21.40 | Semlar | it isn't only counting my own deaths though |
| 11:21.41 | VIad | otherwise people would have had it much easier doing heroic |
| 11:22.04 | znf | I still have an Arcway+5 key |
| 11:22.08 | znf | can't find groups to go |
| 11:22.16 | VIad | I can tank :) |
| 11:22.23 | VIad | usually having problems with bad healer :/ |
| 11:22.36 | znf | All the "boosters" in the premade finder are "sorry bro, we only spam +2" |
| 11:22.41 | nevcairiel | my guild doesnt have enough active healers right now |
| 11:22.44 | nevcairiel | so i didnt do much either |
| 11:22.59 | VIad | +6 was too hard on the healer |
| 11:23.00 | nevcairiel | cba to pug |
| 11:23.10 | VIad | pugging mythic dungeons is harder than raids in some aspects |
| 11:23.19 | znf | it seems that the best strategy is to get M+2 then only upgrade it to M+3 |
| 11:23.28 | nevcairiel | normal mythics are fine, i pugged those before, but with the keystone shit its just too risky, cant even replace people |
| 11:23.32 | VIad | my friend that heals plays too little so he cant keep up with my ilvl :( |
| 11:23.33 | znf | and rape M+3 by a good time so it gets upgraded to M+6 |
| 11:23.54 | znf | also, fuck teemid |
| 11:23.56 | VIad | all my friends dont play enough for me to be able to have a farm group for M+ sadly |
| 11:24.02 | nevcairiel | teeming znf, teeming |
| 11:24.07 | Stanzilla | cant believe they still havent fixed the double legendary bug |
| 11:24.14 | VIad | what bug? |
| 11:24.25 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: keep the whining to the forums, kthx |
| 11:24.31 | Stanzilla | why? |
| 11:24.35 | Shockah|Work | sounds like someone still didn't get his legendary :S |
| 11:24.44 | nevcairiel | because its annoying, and what do i care if someone else gets loot =p |
| 11:24.45 | Stanzilla | that is not the problem |
| 11:24.50 | VIad | I got the neck one, but its okay for tanking, better than pvp ring |
| 11:24.53 | Stanzilla | it's the bug that increases your chance after you got your first |
| 11:24.56 | znf | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtW0cHUWIAAZakt.jpg |
| 11:24.57 | Stanzilla | it is still there |
| 11:24.58 | Semlar | they did hotfix that |
| 11:25.03 | VIad | Stanzilla: it was fixed |
| 11:25.05 | Semlar | what makes you think it's still there |
| 11:25.07 | Stanzilla | yeah well they fucked it up Semlar |
| 11:25.09 | znf | No it wasn't |
| 11:25.24 | VIad | how couldnt they have fixed it? |
| 11:25.33 | Stanzilla | https://twitter.com/Kruithne/status/780553957672357888/photo/1 |
| 11:25.37 | Stanzilla | http://www.twitter.com/Kruithne/status/780559932760420352 |
| 11:25.43 | Stanzilla | http://www.twitter.com/Slootbag/status/780729656987320325 |
| 11:25.48 | nevcairiel | neither of these guys have any clue whats happening, so lay back the armchair deving =p |
| 11:25.57 | nevcairiel | thats why all these tards are so annoying |
| 11:26.00 | nevcairiel | just report it and move on |
| 11:26.04 | nevcairiel | stop your bitching |
| 11:26.12 | znf | it impacts my ability to pug |
| 11:26.18 | znf | "oh, no legendary? no invite, kthxbye" |
| 11:26.23 | Stanzilla | what |
| 11:26.25 | Stanzilla | it's just a bug |
| 11:26.25 | znf | !!! |
| 11:26.30 | Stanzilla | and it's annoying that it did not get fixed |
| 11:26.43 | Semlar | i have yet to be outdamaged by someone with a legendary |
| 11:26.44 | VIad | I think it is fixed, and some people just get lucky two drops in close succession |
| 11:26.53 | znf | VIad, you were saying? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtUcjq_WIAA9a0R.jpg |
| 11:27.04 | VIad | very lucky? |
| 11:27.39 | VIad | I got one, can't wait for my next if it is bugged then :p |
| 11:27.47 | znf | lucky you :D |
| 11:28.00 | Semlar | i've seen 3 people get legendaries and none of them have gotten another one |
| 11:28.02 | VIad | Ill tell you if it happens unaturally fast |
| 11:28.27 | Semlar | how could you possibly even know |
| 11:28.28 | znf | it's just depressing seeing someone with 4 legendaries, while you wait for your first one :) |
| 11:28.36 | VIad | the class hall perk to equip 2 wont be ready until half month or a bit over, so blizz probably plan for people to have 2 at average at some point, 2 months after release |
| 11:28.39 | nebula | rng is rng |
| 11:28.44 | Semlar | too bad they can only equip one |
| 11:28.45 | Stanzilla | because the chances of that happening without a bug is pretty low |
| 11:28.53 | VIad | sadly legendaries matter, like firemage with one is a lot of dps buff |
| 11:28.54 | nebula | but not zero! |
| 11:28.58 | znf | but hey, in 4 days I get to start my "equip a 2nd legendary" trait! |
| 11:29.07 | VIad | so I can see pugs asking for people with legendaries, but I think its silly as heck |
| 11:29.24 | VIad | just having it doesnt mean that person will be better :p |
| 11:29.27 | Stanzilla | I wonder if they will admit it's still bugged |
| 11:29.31 | Stanzilla | or just quitly fix it |
| 11:29.47 | nebula | bug? what bug? you guys are craaaaaaaaazy |
| 11:29.55 | Semlar | i mean, they said they fixed it |
| 11:30.01 | Stanzilla | probably |
| 11:30.02 | znf | not getting a legendary is a bug |
| 11:30.06 | znf | they need to fix that! |
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| 11:31.23 | Semlar | oh the people who were bugged are just still bugged |
| 11:32.18 | VIad | if there is some table over badluck legendary protection and some people have bad values, then yeah :p but how to fix? like find the median and cap everyone to that value? |
| 11:32.36 | nevcairiel | just reset them back to neutral |
| 11:33.12 | VIad | would be more nerf to everyone that didnt get one though |
| 11:33.14 | Semlar | you fix it by taking all of their legendaries away and sharding their gear |
| 11:33.20 | VIad | and those that did keep theirs :p |
| 11:33.25 | nevcairiel | just reset those that already have one, of course |
| 11:33.35 | VIad | yeah |
| 11:33.39 | Semlar | and deleting their character |
| 11:33.45 | Semlar | it's the only way to be sure |
| 11:33.48 | nevcairiel | also hunters, delete all them hunters |
| 11:34.06 | Semlar | I DON'T SEE ANY PICTURES OF HUNTERS GETTING LEGENDARIES |
| 11:34.22 | Semlar | I THINK HUNTERS ARE BUGGED |
| 11:34.25 | VIad | thats because you havent shared your screenshots, Semlar |
| 11:34.30 | VIad | you probably have all the legendaries |
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| 11:36.40 | nebula | running around with two bows and four legendaries, not giving a fuck |
| 11:36.54 | Semlar | i think i have the opposite of bad luck protection |
| 11:36.59 | VIad | pre-legion doesn't count, nebula |
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| 12:20.19 | Shockah|Work | Semlar, sorry, a hunter in my guild got one |
| 12:20.24 | Shockah|Work | ...not me though :C |
| 12:21.08 | Semlar | hopefully it wasn't the ring that procs off of CC |
| 12:21.32 | Semlar | because that may as well not have a legendary effect |
| 12:21.50 | Shockah|Work | nope, it was this one http://www.wowhead.com/item=137033/ullrs-feather-snowshoes&spec=253 |
| 12:22.02 | Semlar | well that's basically the best thing they could have gotten |
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| 12:22.33 | Semlar | the boots and the belt are both pretty good |
| 12:22.34 | Shockah|Work | and guess what |
| 12:22.37 | Shockah|Work | the guy isn't even raiding |
| 12:22.45 | Semlar | take that |
| 12:35.18 | VIad | kapow |
| 12:43.55 | Fisker | tacklehugs Lopeppeppy |
| 12:44.11 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Fiskerboo. How's things far away from here? |
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| 13:51.46 | znf | the kind of bored geek I am: just bought some piece of hardware |
| 13:51.48 | znf | and I got home |
| 13:51.53 | znf | and I didn't immediately unpack it |
| 13:52.00 | znf | but there's a reason: it's a dvd-writer |
| 13:52.19 | karl_w_w | why would you buy a dvd writer |
| 13:53.01 | ls- | damn, read it as "bored greek" |
| 13:53.52 | karl_w_w | now that's a bargain http://www.gizmochina.com/2016/09/27/xiaomi-mi-5s-official-snapdragon-821-glass-fingerprint-just-300/ |
| 13:54.17 | karl_w_w | if you like limited band support and a slightly fragile glass front |
| 13:55.39 | ls- | ah, small rice... |
| 13:55.43 | znf | karl_w_w, because cars need optical media for upgrading :P |
| 13:56.44 | karl_w_w | cars |
| 13:56.50 | znf | yes |
| 13:56.55 | znf | and I need to burn dvd's for cars |
| 13:57.08 | znf | got some Audis to upgrade today |
| 13:59.00 | znf | uhm |
| 13:59.03 | znf | my laptop's battery broke |
| 13:59.04 | znf | wtf |
| 13:59.16 | znf | it's a rather new one, not even 3 months |
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| 14:10.21 | ls- | came home from 7/11 to realise I forgot to buy drinking water... T_T |
| 14:14.01 | fewyn | i now have an ohio driver's licence and i registered to vote |
| 14:14.17 | fewyn | was less painless than i expected |
| 14:14.22 | fewyn | painful |
| 14:16.23 | Seeker` | What time do the mythic+ chests unlock? |
| 14:16.31 | fewyn | probably 11? |
| 14:16.34 | nevcairiel | probably weekly reset time |
| 14:16.36 | fewyn | in 44 minutes |
| 14:21.23 | karl_w_w | 7/11 was a part time job |
| 14:21.33 | fewyn | +1 karl_w_w |
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| 14:24.16 | fewyn | i still haven't gotten over the fact that outlaw rogues don't use poisons... i'm constantly freaking out tha ti don't have any on |
| 14:24.29 | nevcairiel | they use rum instead |
| 14:24.33 | nevcairiel | be sure to apply in real life |
| 14:25.27 | fewyn | i'm actually not a rum fan |
| 14:25.49 | fewyn | only alcohols i can really tolerate are ciders |
| 14:26.47 | karl_w_w | I just realised what ls- said |
| 14:27.05 | ls- | :D |
| 14:27.32 | karl_w_w | you know you buy drinking water from the water company right? and you don't even have to remember to bring it home from the shop, it's always there waiting for you! |
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| 14:28.05 | Freddan962_ | Hello, I'm looking for some help with the next step of my addon. I'm trying to make it so that a function gets called when you click a spell in the spellbook. Anyone available who have a couple of minutes? |
| 14:28.33 | fewyn | unless you live in michigan karl_w_w |
| 14:29.07 | ls- | karl_w_w: eh? you can't drink water from the tap in Asia... |
| 14:29.28 | znf | man, I'm so pissed |
| 14:29.33 | znf | I haven't touched this laptop in a week |
| 14:29.35 | znf | and I need it today |
| 14:29.37 | karl_w_w | get a water filter! |
| 14:29.49 | ls- | at least it's dirt cheap to buy one, 1baht/litre |
| 14:29.53 | ls- | it's like 3 cents |
| 14:30.00 | karl_w_w | nice |
| 14:30.01 | Freddan962_ | :( |
| 14:30.14 | karl_w_w | ~asktoask |
| 14:30.14 | purl | Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help, if they can. |
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| 14:31.14 | ls- | karl_w_w: tbh, to filter tap water in Asia, you might need industrial filter... |
| 14:31.41 | karl_w_w | pity |
| 14:32.00 | Freddan962_ | How can I add a event when a player klicks on a spell in the spellbook? |
| 14:36.33 | ls- | hook spellbook buttons' "OnClick" scripts :p |
| 14:37.48 | Ressy | Team Liquid got purchased. o.O |
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| 14:43.42 | Olison | Is there a way to get 7 days gametime on a deactivated account? |
| 14:44.42 | nevcairiel | dont think you can really buy anything under 30 |
| 14:45.16 | Sharparam | sometimes GMs give you free gametime when you contact them about some issue |
| 14:45.29 | Ressy | Yeah... Like if you want to transfer a character off the account or something. |
| 14:46.08 | Sharparam | also if you've been deactivated long enough a friend can send a SoR right? |
| 14:46.30 | Sharparam | 90 days or something IIRC |
| 14:48.24 | ls- | damn, it's snail season again... walking in the street at night is a bit depressing, cuz inevitably you step on many many snails T_T |
| 14:48.49 | Olison | Sharparam: oic.. Yes SoR, forgot about that, nice |
| 14:50.08 | ls- | and I tend to say sorry every single time I hear cracking noise... |
| 14:50.38 | Sharparam | did you not play during throne of thunder |
| 14:50.42 | Sharparam | no mercy for snails |
| 14:51.00 | ls- | oh shit.... |
| 14:51.14 | Seeker` | I wonder if someone at blizzard had an incident with a snail as a child |
| 14:51.23 | Seeker` | because snails in WoW are ridiculously OP |
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| 14:54.41 | ls- | welp... |
| 14:54.48 | ls- | sometimes it's not even cracking noise, sometimes you accidentally kick bigger snails... Thai snails are quite big, cuz they're Achatinas... |
| 14:56.45 | ls- | I think I should try cooking them :p |
| 14:58.35 | VIad | http://imgur.com/a/Hx79V - are the map files on the same world plane? |
| 14:58.54 | VIad | I thought you literally had to load new map files, that each map was separate |
| 15:00.56 | nevcairiel | starting from silvermoon it actually kinda makes sense to go to outland since its the same instance server, but after that =p |
| 15:00.57 | Seeker` | It might be that you have to have loading screens because it's loading in the entire environment at once. If you're travelling through the area, it pulls in the next part slowly |
| 15:01.45 | nevcairiel | looks like he eventually died in outland without ever leaving it |
| 15:02.44 | VIad | like outland and silvermoon share same mapID because its the same file |
| 15:02.46 | VIad | makes sense |
| 15:02.48 | VIad | but then... :P |
| 15:02.55 | Andols2 | Silvermoon, Outland and Azuremyst Isles is on the same map file |
| 15:02.55 | VIad | azeroth to outland, wat? |
| 15:03.15 | VIad | he posts pictures going west of kalimdor into outland :p |
| 15:03.19 | VIad | without a loadingscreen |
| 15:03.49 | nevcairiel | he didnt actually go over kalimdor though, there is just nothing there, so the positions for the map probably just got confused |
| 15:04.11 | VIad | ah right I see |
| 15:04.23 | VIad | so yes it is same map |
| 15:04.30 | VIad | but path for broken shore :p |
| 15:04.35 | modernist | talking of outland turning up when it shouldnt |
| 15:04.51 | modernist | has isle of conquest always been in helfire peninsula according to mapid? |
| 15:05.09 | Andols2 | North of epl is empty, Eversong Silvermoon and the sun well Island is all on the Outland map |
| 15:05.14 | Sharparam | VIad: well they didn't actually get to broken isles following these images? |
| 15:05.24 | nevcairiel | nah he died in outland |
| 15:05.26 | Sharparam | they died in outland |
| 15:05.31 | VIad | y |
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| 15:06.46 | Andols2 | http://www.iamcal.com/articles/assets/wow_map_expansion.png |
| 15:07.07 | Andols2 | This is what layout of the map file is :P |
| 15:07.21 | znf | I wonder why did they do that |
| 15:07.27 | znf | I mean, they only did it once |
| 15:07.40 | znf | they didn't instance the cataclysm areas |
| 15:07.49 | nevcairiel | BC was their first expansion, so might still have been working stuff out |
| 15:07.53 | Andols2 | My guess is gating |
| 15:08.26 | Andols2 | To prevent non tbc owners to access it |
| 15:08.34 | modernist | those w/ expansion vs those without |
| 15:08.39 | modernist | andols beat me |
| 15:09.09 | Andols2 | If loading to this map then return No end |
| 15:09.18 | Simca | lol US gets kosumoth pet AGAIN |
| 15:09.27 | Simca | epic troll |
| 15:09.37 | Seeker` | Have they not got the mount at all yet? |
| 15:09.41 | Simca | nope |
| 15:09.43 | nevcairiel | well just being able to go to the belf starting area isnt all that magical if you cant create a nelf |
| 15:09.43 | Seeker` | I've got the mount. It's a good mount. |
| 15:09.50 | Simca | 4x pet now |
| 15:10.07 | nevcairiel | those quests are 2 weeks long, has it really been 4x already? |
| 15:10.08 | nevcairiel | nah cant be |
| 15:10.21 | Simca | nah, 3x + world quest reset hotfix |
| 15:11.12 | VIad | I only saw him with mount quest, no pet yet |
| 15:11.34 | modernist | http://i.imgur.com/zqVfWG3.png |
| 15:11.54 | nevcairiel | i did the mount quest in EU two weeks ago or so, didnt re-pop the quest yet with the pet or something |
| 15:12.00 | Simca | what does he give if you already got mount in EU? |
| 15:12.03 | Simca | ah, nothing? |
| 15:12.04 | Simca | lame |
| 15:12.04 | nevcairiel | not that I need the mount, underwater mounts are all terrible |
| 15:12.21 | nevcairiel | (and i'm a druid) |
| 15:12.34 | Seeker` | druids are all terrible :P |
| 15:12.45 | nevcairiel | i also have the two turtles if i ever need to |
| 15:12.52 | nevcairiel | well and now that thing |
| 15:12.58 | Andols2 | Modernist: that is just weird :P |
| 15:13.53 | Seeker` | Eugh, now I've got to finish getting rep to exalted for my artifact appearance :( |
| 15:14.15 | nevcairiel | just be happy its something youi can actively work towards instead of hoping for some random drop |
| 15:14.18 | VIad | people say if the WQ has elite border on it, you can do it in raid group? |
| 15:14.41 | nevcairiel | at least most blue elites seem to work |
| 15:14.42 | Simca | the random drop ones are all easy (except the raid boss ones, maybe) |
| 15:15.01 | Simca | VIad: not correct |
| 15:15.10 | Seeker` | nevcairiel: well, we don't know the entire method, just that it seems one item might drop if you're exalted with highmountain and finish nelth's lair |
| 15:15.17 | Simca | hill giants world quest in highmountain cannot be done in raid group |
| 15:15.24 | Simca | is blue and elite |
| 15:15.39 | nevcairiel | i only ever did one, the frosty guy in stormheim |
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| 15:15.49 | nevcairiel | wasnt really looking for a r aid, but the guy in the groupfinder was afraid |
| 15:15.56 | nevcairiel | i only managed to solo it to about 50% |
| 15:16.02 | modernist | pretty sure i killed a guy in a 40~ raid group in highmountain yesterday |
| 15:16.18 | modernist | warden wq just southwest (?) on nelths lair |
| 15:16.20 | Freddan962_ | Is there a list for all the UI elements stored in _G? |
| 15:16.42 | Simca | basically all of the warden ones can be done in raids |
| 15:16.50 | VIad | for a WQ to work you have to get the popup message |
| 15:16.57 | VIad | to actually trigger you getting credit |
| 15:17.12 | VIad | if you enter raid, go to place and get the trigger, it should work people say |
| 15:17.22 | VIad | but it seems fiddly atm |
| 15:17.23 | Simca | they're wrong, not surprised |
| 15:17.38 | Simca | initially no world quests worked in raids, blizzard hotfixed it like day 2 |
| 15:17.44 | Simca | and they missed a handful because consistency |
| 15:17.48 | VIad | initially yes |
| 15:17.56 | Simca | hill giants quest doesn't work in a raid |
| 15:17.58 | VIad | I am talking post change |
| 15:18.04 | Simca | not every quest was hit |
| 15:18.22 | Simca | if i cared enough i could pull questcache and sort on the 'can complete in raid' flag |
| 15:18.38 | nevcairiel | most of those i can just solo as a tank, just the damn ice guy was hard with all the frosty damage, i dont have that much self heal damnit =p |
| 15:18.53 | Seeker` | I'm glad I got the rat mount before they hotfixed that |
| 15:20.53 | VIad | blizz always soft against cheaters using exploits :p |
| 15:21.25 | Simca | basically, yes |
| 15:21.32 | Seeker` | I just wish I found out about the pickpocketing ursoc trash before they fixed it |
| 15:21.47 | Simca | guildie got 3 heroic epics |
| 15:21.52 | VIad | lol |
| 15:21.56 | nevcairiel | you shouldnt run around being happy to exploit bugs in the game |
| 15:22.09 | VIad | well when most other people do it |
| 15:22.12 | VIad | you get left behind :< |
| 15:22.16 | Simca | yep |
| 15:22.17 | VIad | so I understand the desire to |
| 15:22.26 | Seeker` | It's not that I'm happy to do it, I want to keep up with everyone else |
| 15:22.36 | VIad | blame blizz for not just having a policy of taking such items obtained via exploits away when its fixed |
| 15:22.39 | Simca | exploit early, exploit often - that's what Blizzard has taught people |
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| 15:22.52 | Seeker` | because blizzard fix bugs, but don't close the gap between people that did/didn't benefit |
| 15:22.57 | Seeker` | same with the legendary drop rate |
| 15:23.15 | foxlit | excuses excuses. |
| 15:23.23 | VIad | I used the tentacle trinket to make some of my normal/heroic runs easier |
| 15:23.30 | Simca | they're too afraid to anger subscribers who exploited i think |
| 15:23.40 | VIad | but thats nothing compared to free HC gear :d |
| 15:23.46 | Simca | yeah |
| 15:23.52 | Seeker` | then they should give every rogue a full set of free hc gear :P |
| 15:24.01 | modernist | didnt they do a ban wave for people exploiting early on in the game |
| 15:24.04 | modernist | and got people MAD |
| 15:24.10 | modernist | so i cant really blame them |
| 15:24.14 | Simca | yeah, years ago |
| 15:24.48 | nevcairiel | didnt they ban quite recently for people actively abusing some chest |
| 15:24.58 | modernist | maybe |
| 15:25.09 | VIad | they did some ban related to fel blood or fel something |
| 15:25.12 | Simca | it'd have to be something extreme |
| 15:25.15 | modernist | i think its shades of how much a designer oversight it is |
| 15:25.29 | modernist | and how much its people cheesing the system |
| 15:25.33 | Simca | pickpocketing mobs is normal gameplay so they won't |
| 15:25.43 | Simca | but if it is doing something really really weird, then they might |
| 15:25.45 | VIad | felslate bans I think |
| 15:25.55 | nevcairiel | wasnt that just botting |
| 15:26.08 | VIad | involved mining felslate basilisks indefinetly |
| 15:26.11 | VIad | without corpse despawning |
| 15:26.23 | VIad | tons of people got banned |
| 15:26.49 | VIad | yay today is leafbeard storie :D |
| 15:26.51 | Simca | i would be surprised if it was actually 'tons' |
| 15:26.51 | VIad | story* |
| 15:27.08 | Seeker` | Simca: That's probably, what, 20 players? |
| 15:27.11 | VIad | judging by post count in the thread I found on a cheat site, it looked like "tons" |
| 15:27.37 | Simca | but infinite ore does have an economy impact |
| 15:27.40 | Simca | so they might |
| 15:28.42 | mfgmfg | Simca, they might ban people who grappling hook past the gate to bypass nythendra |
| 15:28.54 | Seeker` | Blizz has some weird policies. It generally seems they won't do anything to rectify a bug. They refused to refund me for buying what I thought was an 835 item using the mobile app when it was really a 750 |
| 15:29.27 | modernist | is there a way to save and use a table key as a parentkey for a frame? |
| 15:29.35 | Seeker` | Because it'd be "interfering with the economy". Even though the bug resulted in items being sold on the AH that wouldn't have sold otherwise |
| 15:30.06 | Simca | mfgmfg: not impossible, but i'd doubt it |
| 15:30.14 | VIad | did rogues pickpocket BOE HC gear? |
| 15:30.18 | VIad | would have an impact too |
| 15:30.27 | Simca | think it was all BoP |
| 15:30.33 | Simca | but not sure |
| 15:31.14 | VIad | heh, aggroed a mob, just outside melee range, just inside ranged attack range ;D |
| 15:31.16 | VIad | it just stares at me |
| 15:31.30 | VIad | 5-40 yards throw, I am at 4 yards. it has probably 2 yards melee range |
| 15:31.37 | Seeker` | VIad: My issue was that it cost me gold. I have less of an issue with bugs that give me more gold, or the ability to obtain a better item |
| 15:32.00 | Simca | VIad: prolly bugged and can't move because bad spawn |
| 15:32.14 | Simca | its model is stuck in the world slightly or something |
| 15:32.26 | Seeker` | Simca: does'nt that cause it to evade? |
| 15:32.35 | Simca | only when it can't hit you |
| 15:32.56 | Simca | same way if you cast on a fish from the shore, it will evade until you get in the water |
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| 15:34.50 | VIad | it wasnt evading. it had one long 0-40 yd CD spell it used |
| 15:35.01 | VIad | but other than that it had a sweetspot where I could ranged attack it ;d |
| 15:35.09 | VIad | and we were on the ground so it had no reason to evade |
| 15:35.57 | mfgmfg | was not given an opportunity to bonus roll on Levantus |
| 15:36.22 | Simca | a guildie mentioned bonus rolls were removed on world bosses |
| 15:37.04 | nevcairiel | maybe he is just out of coins |
| 15:37.11 | Simca | nah |
| 15:37.41 | mfgmfg | nah i have 1 seal |
| 15:37.46 | Simca | could just be levantus broken though |
| 15:38.04 | znf | levantus is up for US? |
| 15:38.07 | Simca | yeah |
| 15:38.24 | znf | wonder if it will be the same for EU |
| 15:38.32 | Simca | it was last week, but idk |
| 15:38.57 | mfgmfg | Sanguine is the 1st modifier for US this week |
| 15:39.07 | mfgmfg | and overflowing 2nd |
| 15:39.19 | Seeker` | what do they do? |
| 15:39.25 | VIad | heals add shields |
| 15:39.27 | Seeker` | And what were they last week? |
| 15:39.40 | znf | teeming and skittish |
| 15:39.40 | nevcairiel | sanguine drops a blood pool that heals mobs and damages players on mob death |
| 15:39.42 | Simca | bolstering was 1st |
| 15:39.46 | nevcairiel | znf: thats eu =p |
| 15:40.16 | Simca | sanguine sounds a lot easier than bolstering in general |
| 15:40.18 | nevcairiel | overflowing converts overheal into a heal absorb shield, so any overheal you do has a negative effect |
| 15:40.24 | nevcairiel | which is evil |
| 15:40.33 | foxlit | it's infinite value on hots. |
| 15:40.50 | Simca | lol |
| 15:40.51 | Seeker` | The healer I did most of the m+ with wasn't looking forward to getting overflowing. We'll see what happens tomorrow. |
| 15:41.06 | VIad | I thought it just added a shield on top like powerword :d |
| 15:41.22 | nevcairiel | how does that work when the hsield is up though, can i remove the shield with more overheal? |
| 15:41.23 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:41.32 | foxlit | right! |
| 15:41.53 | Simca | it's not overheal if there is an absorb shield |
| 15:41.54 | foxlit | but if you heal past the shield, it'll add a new shield. |
| 15:42.19 | znf | wait, what? |
| 15:42.28 | znf | overflowing adds a shield on the mobs when someone in your party overheals you? |
| 15:42.33 | Seeker` | no |
| 15:42.38 | nevcairiel | no, it adds heal absorb on you |
| 15:42.41 | znf | ah |
| 15:42.42 | nevcairiel | ie. negative healing |
| 15:42.44 | Seeker` | healing absorb shield on a player if you overheal tehm |
| 15:43.04 | znf | wait, how does that work with self-heals? |
| 15:43.12 | Seeker` | the same, I guess |
| 15:43.23 | foxlit | You heal to full and get a shield for any leftovers. |
| 15:43.23 | nevcairiel | only for healing classes according to what i found |
| 15:43.25 | znf | the ones you can't control? |
| 15:44.05 | Simca | interesting, pvp towers are now 24 hour durations, up from 6 |
| 15:44.11 | znf | it was in the hotfixes |
| 15:44.14 | znf | pay attention, Simca |
| 15:44.26 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 15:44.30 | nevcairiel | so it was written |
| 15:44.33 | Simca | yeah |
| 15:44.40 | znf | also, only 3 towers up |
| 15:44.54 | Simca | did they restore the honor gain or is it still 150? |
| 15:44.58 | znf | 150 |
| 15:45.02 | Simca | lol |
| 15:45.14 | Simca | so the honor gain was nerfed to shit AND there's barely any |
| 15:45.23 | Simca | blizzard what are you doing bro |
| 15:45.27 | VIad | xd |
| 15:45.33 | foxlit | "go do some actual PvP for PvP rewards" |
| 15:45.33 | VIad | world pvp dead 100%? |
| 15:45.41 | VIad | no new BGs for years? |
| 15:45.47 | VIad | pvp scene getting stale |
| 15:45.48 | Simca | foxlit: except the arenas are still 6 hours and 500 honor |
| 15:46.13 | znf | you don't convince me to do the arenas unless you add +AP there |
| 15:46.14 | znf | :D |
| 15:46.25 | Seeker` | i kill a few people in the arenas and then they all start ganging up on me :( |
| 15:46.35 | Simca | you get +AP every 2 honor levels, which is every 2 arenas basically |
| 15:46.39 | Seeker` | I got up to the +7 buff (I think) before someone finally killed me |
| 15:46.49 | znf | I got the +10 earlier today |
| 15:46.54 | znf | ...which reduces healing by 100% |
| 15:47.07 | Simca | yeah the black rook 'buff' is not really a buff |
| 15:47.16 | znf | well, it's 50% damage :P |
| 15:47.18 | Simca | sure |
| 15:47.28 | Simca | but it makes you so much more killable |
| 15:47.32 | Simca | that it isn't worth it |
| 15:47.52 | foxlit | It would be nice of you to die so that other players could fill their bars, though. |
| 15:47.54 | znf | I'm not even sure how you get that silly buff |
| 15:48.02 | znf | I jump in the arena |
| 15:48.05 | znf | I do a spell |
| 15:48.06 | znf | suddenly +7 |
| 15:48.08 | znf | ?!!? |
| 15:48.26 | Simca | that sounds busted, it's supposed to be +1 stack per kill in the black rook arena |
| 15:48.36 | znf | it does? |
| 15:48.39 | znf | well, shit now |
| 15:48.48 | znf | that makes sense, but I haven't killed anyone at that point |
| 15:49.05 | znf | just did Mind Bomb + Shadowcrash of a group of 4 people fighting between themselves |
| 15:49.54 | znf | still annoyed that the pvp talents dont' activate properly in blackrook |
| 15:50.10 | Simca | can you at least leave the arena now? |
| 15:50.18 | znf | aws it broken? |
| 15:50.22 | Simca | last time i was there, the gate upstairs was permanently down |
| 15:50.30 | Simca | was quite troll |
| 15:50.33 | znf | you need to talk with a guy to leave |
| 15:50.46 | Simca | yes, but after you do, you walk through a hallway and up some stairs |
| 15:50.53 | Simca | at the top of the stairs, there was another gate that was locked |
| 15:50.53 | Simca | before |
| 15:51.11 | Simca | only way out was hearth |
| 15:51.32 | pompy | is lfr up on eu |
| 15:51.35 | Simca | can't whistle because 'indoors' |
| 15:53.07 | VIad | wish WQ didnt give shit blue items when you surpass the ilvl. and just give AP/gold/CHR |
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| 15:53.28 | VIad | 825 blue neck >_> 855 ilvl |
| 15:53.42 | VIad | even titanforged it will suck |
| 15:53.55 | nevcairiel | it could titanforge to 895, so keep trying |
| 15:54.05 | znf | still running around with 830 neck |
| 15:54.05 | VIad | LOL |
| 15:54.26 | VIad | WQ item rewards adapt to your ilvl |
| 15:54.32 | VIad | early it is usually a upgrade |
| 15:54.36 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/8GrdPCh.png |
| 15:54.45 | znf | not like I don't have enough neck pieces to go around |
| 15:54.47 | mfgmfg | don't open your mythic hall chest until you run a mythic (if you did +5 or higher), so that you get a +2 keystone |
| 15:54.47 | znf | just none with haste |
| 15:55.05 | VIad | :d |
| 15:55.13 | znf | or just don't pick the key from the chest? :> |
| 15:55.20 | nevcairiel | i was wondering about that, i dont suppose you can throw yours away and get a new one? =p |
| 15:55.38 | mfgmfg | nevcairiel, nah |
| 15:56.10 | Simca | good tip |
| 15:56.12 | nevcairiel | znf: most people have autoloot on =p |
| 15:56.33 | znf | You can shift+click! |
| 15:56.35 | Simca | doubt there is a loot window |
| 15:56.38 | znf | or whatever your modifier is |
| 15:56.42 | znf | uhm, there is |
| 15:56.44 | Simca | it's 7.0 guys, magic loot is everywhere |
| 15:58.06 | Simca | but good tip, thanks |
| 15:58.15 | mfgmfg | znf, wonder if it will make the chest despawn after a minute? |
| 15:58.15 | znf | http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/769999-marvel-has-already-filmed-the-next-four-stan-lee-cameos#08ChvB3rb3wS0lE5.16 |
| 15:58.18 | mfgmfg | and mail you the key |
| 15:58.24 | znf | mfgmfg, it doesn't despawn |
| 15:58.28 | znf | or it never did on beta |
| 15:59.06 | nevcairiel | the chest was even there this week already |
| 15:59.08 | nevcairiel | without any loot |
| 16:02.14 | Seeker` | mfgmfg: why not loot the one from the chest? |
| 16:02.33 | Simca | it starts at a higher level |
| 16:02.35 | mfgmfg | Seeker`, then you don't get more chances at loot by running lower mythic+ first |
| 16:02.43 | Simca | you want the low level ones because lots of loot for stomping the timer |
| 16:02.46 | mfgmfg | without resorting to using others' |
| 16:02.53 | Seeker` | fair enough |
| 16:03.10 | Seeker` | I'll have to be careful opening my chest tomorrow then |
| 16:04.37 | nevcairiel | you dont actually get more loot by stomping Simca, just faster loot |
| 16:04.53 | mfgmfg | more loot, more AP |
| 16:05.14 | nevcairiel | you just save the time to do these levels individually, but same loot |
| 16:05.18 | Simca | yeah |
| 16:05.31 | Seeker` | They should do it so that the first run with the chest keystone gives you loot from all the levels you missed |
| 16:05.50 | nevcairiel | although i hear a new strategy is to do 2 slow and then stomp 3 to get a 6 |
| 16:06.04 | Simca | yeah |
| 16:06.11 | Simca | i imagine it will change over time with gear like that |
| 16:08.22 | znf | Why hasn't anyone posted the keystone tip on reddit? :o |
| 16:08.36 | znf | mfgmfg, post it! |
| 16:11.08 | mfgmfg | znf, what subreddit? |
| 16:11.14 | znf | /r/wow |
| 16:11.22 | mfgmfg | meh |
| 16:11.29 | mfgmfg | it's still in beta |
| 16:11.38 | bluspacecow | no! |
| 16:11.45 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:11.50 | mfgmfg | want to hear of any reports of it breaking stuff |
| 16:11.57 | mfgmfg | and if it works in other languages ok |
| 16:12.19 | mfgmfg | and i think i will change the show modifier option to be off by default |
| 16:12.40 | znf | mfgmfg, ...I said post the tip |
| 16:12.42 | znf | not the addon |
| 16:12.42 | znf | >_< |
| 16:12.50 | mfgmfg | oh, misunderstood |
| 16:13.15 | mfgmfg | you post it |
| 16:13.23 | mfgmfg | you could use the karma |
| 16:13.55 | znf | I have 4k karma :-/ |
| 16:14.15 | mfgmfg | a pittance |
| 16:15.23 | znf | you get a +5 if you previously done +5, right? |
| 16:15.26 | znf | or how does it work? |
| 16:15.33 | Seeker` | highest - 2 |
| 16:16.23 | znf | fine |
| 16:16.24 | znf | done |
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| 16:17.21 | mfgmfg | someone in my group reported they got a +5, best last week they completed was +6 |
| 16:17.27 | Seeker` | eugh, browsing new posts. "Do bad players get legendaries earlier?" |
| 16:17.47 | znf | mfgmfg, did he get the +6 upgrade to +8? |
| 16:17.54 | mfgmfg | it wasn't his keystone |
| 16:17.59 | mfgmfg | he had a +2 keystone last week personally |
| 16:18.01 | znf | Your post has been removed because it contains the phrase "PSA". Please resubmit without PSA in your title. |
| 16:18.05 | znf | when the fuck did they put that in |
| 16:18.09 | znf | god damn it, /r/wow/ |
| 16:18.21 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 16:18.22 | mfgmfg | https://www.reddit.com/r/wowmeta/comments/53i2eo/psa_posts/ znf |
| 16:19.11 | Seeker` | It was basically redundant to have "PSA" on posts |
| 16:19.13 | znf | So 8 days ago. |
| 16:20.01 | mfgmfg | being able to sap in suramar now is so good |
| 16:20.09 | mfgmfg | doesn't break disguise anymore |
| 16:21.32 | Seeker` | tbh, I didn't try to CC stuff in suramar |
| 16:21.35 | Seeker` | just mount up and run |
| 16:23.02 | znf | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/54r832/chris_metzen_playing_the_role_of_a_merchant_in/ |
| 16:23.56 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/vBoAoX9.png |
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| 16:24.09 | znf | isn't that a wing in the other place? |
| 16:24.54 | znf | apparently LFR and Mythic was up on EU for a few minutes |
| 16:27.39 | Freddan962_ | Hi there, what widget handler is called when the UI reloads? |
| 16:27.45 | Freddan962_ | OnShow nor OnLoad seems to trigger for me. |
| 16:30.28 | Freddan962_ | OnUpdate did the trick. |
| 16:31.53 | Seeker` | znf: is that your screenshot? |
| 16:33.06 | znf | yes |
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| 18:29.31 | znf | What is it with people... |
| 18:29.38 | znf | They make groups, "any keystone, any level, whisper us" |
| 18:29.43 | znf | I whisper them, "ah, +5, no" |
| 18:30.02 | znf | Not like I want to do it +8, I just want to clear it regardless of time :-/ |
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| 18:45.58 | znf | TheDanW, the premade ui could be using some improvements to link your current Keystone |
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| 19:06.13 | pompy | Alram: it started btw |
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| 19:06.32 | Alram | yeah watching |
| 19:09.54 | Phatso | what? |
| 19:10.12 | Phatso | oh cs? |
| 19:11.15 | modernist | TheDanW: http://i.imgur.com/yLla5tI.png |
| 19:11.22 | pompy | Phatso: http://www.spacex.com/Mars |
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| 19:14.10 | Phatso | how is that not covering the reddit frontpage ? |
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| 19:16.12 | Seeker` | ls-: would you object to making your SpawnToast function non-local? |
| 19:20.08 | ls- | I'm thinking about exposing few functions |
| 19:20.24 | ls- | but not sure yet... |
| 19:21.27 | Seeker` | http://i.imgur.com/VPk3eFB.png If I remove the 'local', I can start playing with skinning |
| 19:23.28 | ls- | I think I'll expose it as ls_Toasts:SpawnToast or something like that... |
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| 20:51.15 | pompy | lol some dude with an electric bus startup was there at the IAC and Elon was like "Space questions only...." |
| 20:51.42 | mfgmfg2 | hair questions only please |
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| 20:58.19 | znf | tab target is, like |
| 20:58.22 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/IrsEoFk.png |
| 20:58.28 | znf | hey, let's target a mob million miles away |
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| 21:02.28 | _relaxok_ | znf: i always do that and cause an oh shit moment (caster) |
| 21:03.06 | znf | tab-targetting was fine in catacysm, wotlk, bc etc. |
| 21:03.15 | znf | wonder why someone felt the need for a change |
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| 21:25.48 | znf | https://twitter.com/IRCCloud/status/780881057944104960 |
| 21:26.03 | znf | irccloud's system is getting hit because freenode is netsplittin' |
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| 22:14.31 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:15.46 | Semlar | game thinks i'm dead, won't let me do anything |
| 22:16.19 | Semlar | i can't turn this quest in because it thinks i'm dead |
| 22:16.52 | Semlar | all i did was FD |
| 22:17.12 | Sharparam | are you a professional bug finder or something |
| 22:17.55 | Semlar | don't worry, restarting the game fixed it |
| 22:18.02 | TheDanW | Semlar: i had that happen to me also, had to relog |
| 22:18.41 | Semlar | what is dead may never die |
| 22:19.01 | Guill | Should be fixed in 7.1. |
| 22:20.32 | Semlar | :O |
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| 22:24.26 | Semlar | something keeps interrupting my barrage channel, i think it's my trinket proc |
| 22:25.35 | znf | my night so far http://i.imgur.com/3xu6ElW.png |
| 22:25.35 | znf | :D |
| 22:26.29 | Semlar | shadow priest |
| 22:27.11 | znf | pretty much |
| 22:38.57 | pompy | Guill: was the double offline message thing fixed in 7.1? |
| 22:40.24 | znf | meh, nothing in the heroic raid premade finder, everyone wants 855+, and flasks for a pug |
| 22:40.28 | nevcairiel | hasnt that existed since for ever pompy |
| 22:40.37 | znf | (I aint' buying a flask for 1 pull/hour in a pug) |
| 22:40.59 | nevcairiel | znf: last time you whined about not using flasks for normal, now you whine about not using them for heroic, maybe you should just get a fucking herbalist =P |
| 22:41.18 | znf | I have one |
| 22:41.22 | znf | I just need to freakin' level it :-/ |
| 22:41.51 | znf | I don't want to use a flask, pull the boss once, then wait 30 minutes to fill back up because we failed on the first pull and tank decided to leave |
| 22:42.59 | znf | for example, I've been looking at the heroic raid pugs for the last ~15 minutes |
| 22:43.20 | znf | the same group has been relisting, asking for flasks, you can see how well is that group going |
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| 22:47.42 | Guill | pompy: Yes, it should be fixed in 7.1. |
| 22:47.52 | Guill | Let me know if you still see it! |
| 22:48.15 | pompy | will do |
| 22:48.57 | nevcairiel | the errant offline messages when someone uses the app, too? |
| 22:49.26 | pompy | happened when 7.0.3 was released |
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| 22:51.03 | znf | there are offline messages when you use the app? :o |
| 22:51.22 | nevcairiel | yeah when you close it, there is a has gone offline message ingame |
| 22:51.35 | nevcairiel | (but no online message when you start it) |
| 22:52.27 | znf | interesting |
| 22:52.44 | _Kee | I used to see multiple "has gone offline" messages too |
| 22:53.42 | znf | then you took an arrow to the knee? |
| 23:06.51 | Ssateneth | make your own group |
| 23:16.50 | znf | Ssateneth, I have a CoS+5 key |
| 23:16.54 | znf | nobody wants to do it |
| 23:17.37 | Ssateneth | thought it wasnt possible to get an undesirable key because everyone more or less had the same key |
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| 23:22.07 | znf | maybe it's coupled with my class/spec |
| 23:24.04 | tz | @Guill: don't suppose there's a doc or something floating around with all the valid keybinding keycodes available? F13-F24 would be wonderful for 12-button mmo mice and the like, but WoW doesn't support them :( |
| 23:24.33 | znf | I heard Alt+F4 is supported |
| 23:24.50 | tz | nods |
| 23:24.59 | Sharparam | one time, many years ago, i tried to keybind alt+f4 |
| 23:25.12 | Sharparam | in my defense, i was really young |
| 23:25.39 | Sharparam | i was all "huh, that's strange". i tried one more time before i realised |
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| 23:30.12 | znf | I find that keybinding by itself weir |
| 23:30.13 | znf | d |
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| 23:37.57 | znf | Can you experience the Stormheim scenario as the opposing faction, somehow? |
| 23:38.03 | znf | without leveling a smelly alliance? |
| 23:38.17 | Gnarfoz | you keep getting that wrong: horde are the smelly ones. |
| 23:38.48 | znf | shut up, filthy elf |
| 23:38.57 | Ssateneth | znf is just jealous of us alliance and our nice things |
| 23:38.59 | Gnarfoz | elf? lol |
| 23:39.05 | Ssateneth | and plumbing, hot water, and soap |
| 23:39.24 | znf | Broll, wtf |
| 23:39.29 | znf | I wasn't even /targeting/ that guy |
| 23:39.40 | Ssateneth | you go enjoy your sweat, rotting flesh, and halitosis |
| 23:43.47 | znf | Mother Clacker, really, blizzard, really? |
| 23:44.21 | Ssateneth | why not? its legal |
| 23:44.39 | Ssateneth | not like adult things have been slipped into childrens cartoons before |
| 23:44.44 | Ssateneth | havent* |
| 23:45.11 | znf | I'm not offended. |
| 23:45.15 | znf | It's just silly :P |
| 23:48.24 | Gnarfoz | http://artifactpower.info/ O |
| 23:48.32 | Gnarfoz | almost a million AP :o |
| 23:49.47 | znf | Total Artifact Power gained: 401823 |
| 23:49.48 | znf | :-/ |
| 23:50.15 | znf | how did you get almost a million? |
| 23:50.29 | znf | oh, that guy |
| 23:50.36 | znf | what the fuck did he do |
| 23:50.41 | znf | a billion mythic+? |
| 23:55.43 | Gnarfoz | looking at his gear: probably |
| 23:57.05 | Gnarfoz | EU "best" is actually from my realm |
| 23:57.59 | foxlit | coming tomorrow: "LFM Mythic+2, 30 unlocked traits or gtfo" |
