| 00:00.56 | Adrenalined_ | Gnarfoz, ty, so there is not any good way to say wait until 10 sec for it to end then just bid I take it ? |
| 00:01.27 | Gnarfoz | that's exactly why it behaves like that |
| 00:24.28 | foxlit | xavius: pugged. |
| 00:32.37 | Adrenalined_ | Gnarfoz, I see, thanks again for the info |
| 01:21.06 | Stanzilla | TheDanW Guill when reworking the AH, can you maybe add an ignore feature? So I can ignore the dicks that do this http://i.imgur.com/7VzHqlu.png |
| 01:21.34 | Stanzilla | 10+ pages of random stuff to trick AH bots |
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| 01:28.27 | nebula | the current system for ts mats should just be scrapped entirely and moved to a purchase order type thing where you just select what you want, enter how many and it gives you price you can accept or cancel |
| 01:33.07 | znf | nebula, that would probably cause an uproar |
| 01:33.16 | nebula | why? |
| 01:33.46 | znf | dunno, something from the people which pay a sub just to play the AH |
| 01:34.46 | nebula | and they're free to do so with everything else |
| 01:35.12 | nebula | i mean, you wouldn't even need to remove the listings, just add panel to simplify buying them |
| 01:35.17 | Stanzilla | it was a coincidence that I screenshotted the transmog page |
| 01:35.24 | Stanzilla | it's literally garbage items he lists for high prices |
| 01:35.27 | Stanzilla | over a certain time |
| 01:35.36 | Stanzilla | so the AH addons pick it up as a regular price for that trash item |
| 01:35.45 | Stanzilla | and can be tricked into buying it when it's cheaper |
| 01:36.03 | nebula | i'm pretty ok with that |
| 01:37.46 | znf | people will find anything to complain about, that's all I'm saying :P |
| 01:50.17 | Ketho | still hoping for something like Steam market buy and sell orders |
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| 02:42.28 | Xuerian | That's how WS is, yeah. |
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| 04:17.09 | ls- | The Price Per Unit sorting for the Auction House is in. |
| 04:17.21 | ls- | noice <3 |
| 04:19.56 | kullervo | ... I've always had that? |
| 04:26.54 | ls- | it's new in 7.1 T_T |
| 04:27.27 | ls- | it's about default UI rn |
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| 04:35.25 | ls- | -- new events: TRANSMOG_COLLECTION_SOURCE_ADDED and TRANSMOG_COLLECTION_SOURCE_REMOVED, parameter is sourceID, can be cross-class (wand unlocked from ensemble while on warrior) |
| 04:35.30 | ls- | noice <3 |
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| 04:39.27 | bluspacecow | where you see that ls- ? |
| 04:39.33 | ls- | TheDanW, can you thank your tmog guy for me? :D |
| 04:40.12 | ls- | \Blizzard_Collections\Blizzard_Wardrobe.lua, line #5 |
| 04:40.49 | bluspacecow | which build was it extracted from ? |
| 04:41.04 | ls- | latest 7.1 |
| 04:41.18 | ls- | 22636 |
| 04:42.38 | bluspacecow | ah |
| 04:42.47 | bluspacecow | on the PTR which I don't has installed. LOL |
| 04:45.19 | ls- | it's quite handy to have one installed :D |
| 04:46.00 | bluspacecow | hmmmm |
| 04:46.08 | bluspacecow | live's at 22624 |
| 04:46.17 | bluspacecow | wonder if i can crib data from it to PTR |
| 04:46.24 | bluspacecow | worth a shot. YOLO! |
| 04:48.46 | ls- | it should be fine :p that's what I do, whenever I need to install ptr/beta clients. |
| 04:48.55 | znf | Goddammit mobile ads on mmo-c |
| 04:51.41 | znf | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/I9nBI1Zw/Screenshot_2016-09-22-07-51-19.png |
| 04:51.46 | znf | It's fucking cancer |
| 04:52.55 | ls- | hm, they also added PVP_TIMER_UPDATE event, now I hope that they fixed GetPVPTimer() too... |
| 04:53.21 | ls- | znf: daaaamn... |
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| 05:59.45 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/muradin/Bluspacecow/statistic#131 |
| 05:59.54 | bluspacecow | " Total times playing world's smallest violin" |
| 06:00.01 | bluspacecow | there's a violen emote ? |
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| 06:14.48 | Andols2 | I think it is /violin |
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| 06:49.48 | karl_w_w | think anyone is gonna tell them? http://www.oktoberfestinthegardens.com.au |
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| 06:54.49 | nevcairiel | tell what? |
| 06:56.23 | karl_w_w | that oktoberfest will be over long before their events |
| 06:58.11 | nevcairiel | this is true, but most dont care to host their own oktoberfests |
| 06:58.25 | nevcairiel | why do they care that the event thousands ofm iles away is over |
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| 08:24.12 | bluspacecow | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/53xfkf/i_relogged_into_my_8_year_old_jnx_account_to_find/d7x7tw7 |
| 08:24.20 | bluspacecow | let's see if anyone activates my trap card |
| 08:30.42 | bluspacecow | I need the foods |
| 08:30.45 | bluspacecow | BRB shopping\ |
| 08:32.25 | VIad | znf: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/53seuq/86_pages_of_leystone_ore_something_needs_to_be/ |
| 08:32.35 | VIad | why can't we copy GW2 AH system? I am sure they won't mind |
| 08:36.47 | Semlar | i just edited auctionlite to do fast scans |
| 08:37.03 | Semlar | makes the auction house about a million times more usable |
| 08:37.24 | VIad | people comment that many games just let you say "I want X of Y" and the game spits out what you want and a price for you just to click buy |
| 08:37.57 | VIad | so it finds the cheapest deal that suits your amount |
| 08:38.29 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:40.09 | nebula | Semlar: ooh, what'd you change? |
| 08:40.43 | Semlar | there's a bug/feature where you can just get every page of a search at once if you check the "usable" box right now |
| 08:40.51 | Semlar | so i just hardcoded it to use that |
| 08:41.02 | nebula | heh |
| 08:41.05 | VIad | lol |
| 08:41.07 | Semlar | obviously can't search for anything unusable, but that's about zero percent of my searches |
| 08:41.25 | nevcairiel | and if that spreads and increases load on the AH unexpectedly, they'll fix it right away =p |
| 08:41.26 | VIad | how does it affect blizz servers when buypassing the throttle? :p |
| 08:41.28 | Semlar | i just couldn't sit there waiting for it to scan through pages of ore to buy anything |
| 08:41.59 | nebula | yea, takes forever, then it takes forever for the approve button to light up |
| 08:42.03 | VIad | HANG ON man, before you buy, let me scan the remaining 221 pages of ley ore so I know you get a good deal, chill |
| 08:42.26 | VIad | 16 min later, you pick the cheapest stack and click buy, it has to scan again and find out the auction is already sold |
| 08:43.06 | Semlar | like, i needed 30 leystone ore to do a world quest, and it took over a minute to scan for it, then the approve button was just greyed out indefinitely |
| 08:43.28 | Semlar | so while i was waiting for that i decided to edit auctionlite instead |
| 08:43.45 | VIad | I get the dilema though, blizz can revamp the AH to eliminate the AH gold gaming |
| 08:43.53 | VIad | like, make it how the token works :p |
| 08:44.15 | nebula | can you filter out bid only items while you're in there |
| 08:44.37 | Semlar | i'm actually convinced the "usable" button on the auction ui refers to making the auction house itself usable |
| 08:44.39 | VIad | who uses bid only anymore? except if its some rare mounts and such you might want to have some bid war over |
| 08:45.12 | nebula | wonder if there would be extra strain on the server if everyone started using it |
| 08:45.24 | Semlar | i was trying to buy old cooking mats to level it and a ton of people had a bunch of mats posted with no buyout |
| 08:45.45 | VIad | douches |
| 08:46.58 | ls- | I bid sometimes :p |
| 08:47.30 | nevcairiel | bidding on expensive gear or something is ok, but with crafting reagents you dont want to wait and stuff, you just want it now |
| 08:48.16 | ls- | yeah, this ^ |
| 08:51.09 | VIad | I doubt gear categories are overflowed with that many pages either |
| 08:51.18 | VIad | it seems to be a issue with the crafting related tabs |
| 08:51.26 | VIad | consumables too I guess |
| 08:54.19 | ls- | damn... I hate Vargoth' "looks can be deceiving" o_O |
| 08:54.35 | ls- | it sounds soooooooo annoying |
| 08:54.39 | Semlar | AN ILLUSION!? |
| 08:55.33 | VIad | WHO GOES THERE? |
| 08:57.20 | Semlar | oh right, i found the tracking achievements for unlocking the alternate colors for your hidden artifact appearance from doing 100 dungeons and 200 world quests |
| 08:57.57 | Semlar | i wanted to make a bar or something for it |
| 08:58.09 | Semlar | i guess a broker plugin would make sense |
| 08:58.36 | nevcairiel | i wish my base hidden appearance drops soon |
| 08:58.38 | nevcairiel | damn raid drops |
| 08:58.52 | Semlar | mine drops from me buying it from a vendor |
| 08:58.54 | nebula | people don't even know how to get mine ;; |
| 08:59.22 | nevcairiel | unfortunately it a lso drops in the second raid wing, so no extra chance with lfr anytime soon |
| 09:01.02 | ls- | mine is a random drop in Suramar :p |
| 09:01.08 | ls- | #justfiremagethings |
| 09:02.16 | VIad | Semlar: I've done 500 WQ soon, not 100 dungeons sadly :p |
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| 09:02.54 | VIad | tbh I dont get the hate that hunters can buy one from engineering guy for gold, I mean, blizz wanted to make the looks unlockable in different ways for everyone |
| 09:03.05 | VIad | sure some would be easier and faster than others |
| 09:03.14 | nevcairiel | its mostly those complaining that didnt even figure out where theirs is from yet =p |
| 09:03.35 | VIad | mine involves a boss kill each day that can maybe drop it if he feels like it |
| 09:03.52 | VIad | rng wise you can get yours first from the 2nd raid wing, than I can from my daily boss :p |
| 09:04.02 | nevcairiel | mine drops from ursoc, so maybe 2-3 weekly chances, depending on if lfr opened yet |
| 09:04.19 | VIad | I was thinking maybe to try join a pug this weekend |
| 09:04.35 | VIad | crossing fingers the pug scene is better since wod learning curve, but have my doubts :p |
| 09:04.50 | VIad | I expect 850 ilvl requirement and archimonde a head of the curve requirements for normal mode |
| 09:05.14 | VIad | and probably something stupid like "must have legendary equipped" or some shit |
| 09:06.34 | Semlar | i've done 4 dungeons |
| 09:06.44 | Semlar | because apparently mythics don't count |
| 09:06.48 | VIad | lol |
| 09:06.56 | VIad | I don't even need heroic dungeons anymore |
| 09:07.01 | VIad | why don't mythics count? |
| 09:07.08 | Semlar | that's a good question |
| 09:07.14 | VIad | it's probably too easy |
| 09:07.26 | VIad | can just get guild mates and rush them all in a couple of hours |
| 09:07.46 | VIad | also you probably full cleared normal yesterday right? |
| 09:07.53 | VIad | and are now on last boss heroic |
| 09:08.03 | VIad | mechanics don't seem to difficult |
| 09:08.19 | VIad | in my eyes its just "how can we destroy pug raiding" design more than anything else :p |
| 09:08.47 | VIad | the moment you need everyone to do something coordinated, guilds should be fine with that if you have raided several expansions :p |
| 09:09.07 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:09.23 | VIad | does that work for all hidden artifact thingies? |
| 09:09.33 | Semlar | as far as i can tell |
| 09:10.02 | VIad | I should first look up how mine would look |
| 09:10.10 | VIad | so I dont do the 100 dungeons and it looks shit :p |
| 09:10.20 | VIad | then mega bummer, wasted so much time in the heroic queue |
| 09:10.37 | Semlar | well you need to do the dungeons with the hidden appearance |
| 09:10.49 | VIad | oh |
| 09:10.52 | VIad | nvm then |
| 09:10.53 | VIad | :p |
| 09:10.58 | Semlar | it just unlocks a different color for it |
| 09:11.14 | VIad | so I have to do those 100 dungeons and 300 WQ AFTER the appearance is unlocked |
| 09:11.21 | Semlar | yeah |
| 09:11.23 | VIad | sucks to be you, no retroactive tracking :p |
| 09:11.25 | Semlar | except 200 |
| 09:11.37 | VIad | tbh that can probably be enraging |
| 09:11.42 | Semlar | i never did any heroics so it being retroactive wouldn't make that much difference |
| 09:11.48 | VIad | like my hidden appearance, just rng, might get it next year |
| 09:12.00 | VIad | and by then 've done like 2000 WQ and mythic6 content |
| 09:12.09 | VIad | and nope, now I gotta do 100 heroics or normal dungeons :p |
| 09:12.10 | Semlar | i did a bunch of keystone dungeons yesterday and today and none of them counted |
| 09:12.33 | Semlar | well, assuming i have this achievement correct |
| 09:12.41 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it's right |
| 09:13.01 | Semlar | the world quest one is definitely correct |
| 09:13.13 | VIad | you can probably track it ingame too right? |
| 09:13.20 | VIad | you can add the achievement on the watchframe :p |
| 09:13.21 | Semlar | you can, it just has a ridiculous title |
| 09:13.27 | VIad | jupp |
| 09:13.37 | VIad | you complained about the watch frame right? |
| 09:13.51 | Semlar | it's big enough already that it doesn't need an additional achievement sections |
| 09:14.03 | Semlar | -s |
| 09:14.21 | VIad | achievement UI needs a revamp too if you ask me |
| 09:14.31 | VIad | it can be fps dropping if you browse some of the lists >_> |
| 09:14.40 | VIad | go to one of the large raid once, and scroll down fast |
| 09:14.48 | VIad | or, not too fast, but fast enough to notice fps :p |
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| 09:15.58 | Semlar | or just opening the statistics tab |
| 09:16.47 | VIad | should be possible to browse the achievement in a "no details mode" so it doesnt have to load more backend stuff |
| 09:16.52 | VIad | like only titles in a small list |
| 09:17.05 | VIad | click to expand, or check to have them expanded by default somewhere, should save some fps |
| 09:17.24 | VIad | I suspect its like, it has to load achievement data about progress and such when you scroll something into view |
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| 09:18.05 | ls- | I have a feeling that fps drops while doing anything w/ UI are new norm T_T and no one really cares about them... |
| 09:18.17 | VIad | its only achievement UI for me |
| 09:18.24 | VIad | but you played on a mactatoe didnt you? |
| 09:18.37 | VIad | someone posted pictures of wow from 2004 on a mac here in the channel |
| 09:18.41 | modernist | hi |
| 09:18.44 | VIad | hey modernist |
| 09:18.44 | modernist | that was me |
| 09:19.03 | VIad | opening the character panel probably tanks the fps further 10 fps down |
| 09:19.24 | modernist | achievement ui is the only real tanker usually |
| 09:19.28 | VIad | yeah |
| 09:19.54 | ls- | i play on pc, but I have mbp too :p |
| 09:19.56 | modernist | it performed admirably in 30 man EN last night |
| 09:20.08 | modernist | at least until bigwigs started spewing errors |
| 09:20.21 | VIad | do you still need raid addons? |
| 09:20.34 | VIad | I've done all the dungeons and managed the mechanics with the blizz warnings |
| 09:20.35 | modernist | not really in normal mode, i disabled it and did fine |
| 09:20.49 | VIad | but I'd assume it would go the same way for raids too |
| 09:21.02 | VIad | they add personal raid warnings to people for important stuff |
| 09:21.07 | Semlar | Simca: is the amount of progress a mob contributes to a quest relatively easy to datamine |
| 09:21.28 | VIad | oh? |
| 09:21.44 | VIad | like normal/elite/boss and its hp? |
| 09:21.49 | VIad | and level maybe? |
| 09:23.05 | Semlar | seems to be completely arbitrary |
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| 09:23.38 | Semlar | and i want to know how much each mob in a mythic contributes to its completion |
| 09:23.51 | Simca | yes |
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| 09:25.38 | VIad | you mean blizz just put a value on each mob type in mythics? |
| 09:25.42 | VIad | based on what they felt :p |
| 09:25.58 | VIad | but it has to be related to its max health, right? |
| 09:26.05 | VIad | something that takes longer to kill should reward more >_> |
| 09:26.21 | VIad | maybe some * modifier based on size of the pack of mobs too |
| 09:27.57 | VIad | hmm, should write something to log the % changes as stuff die around me |
| 09:28.03 | VIad | and see if I can figure something out based on that |
| 09:28.10 | VIad | there has to be some correlation ,_, |
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| 09:41.03 | Semlar | actually that's a fair point, i could probably automatically track this |
| 09:41.16 | VIad | it will be easier to shift through the data later |
| 09:41.22 | Semlar | but you'd have to kill something first |
| 09:41.24 | VIad | yeah |
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| 09:41.41 | VIad | if you record some basic data about the units as they die, and the change in the % |
| 09:41.50 | VIad | could see if there is some correlation in excel later |
| 09:42.06 | Semlar | well i wasn't planning on looking through the data |
| 09:42.18 | Semlar | just track how much each mob gives and put it in its tooltip or something |
| 09:42.33 | VIad | would work fine, unless the size of pack affects the % too |
| 09:42.58 | Semlar | pretty sure every mob just has a set value |
| 09:43.25 | VIad | if you have 2 mobs, then you later have 3 and they synergize with each other, would be lame if they gave flat % ,_, |
| 09:43.46 | Semlar | preeeeetty sure it's always the same value |
| 09:44.06 | VIad | can ofc be that |
| 09:44.16 | Semlar | also i just got done running a bunch of mythics with the bolstering modifier so i don't want to think about synergy |
| 09:44.23 | VIad | :p |
| 09:44.32 | VIad | like teeming, how does that affect the % |
| 09:44.50 | VIad | you get to kill less packs of trash because the packs had more guys? or the adds dont count so you still need to like kill the packs |
| 09:45.30 | Semlar | it turns out the whelps on the dragon boss in darkheart thicket bolster the boss when they die |
| 09:45.36 | Semlar | so that was fun |
| 09:45.44 | VIad | ah yes |
| 09:45.50 | VIad | why did you break eggs? :p |
| 09:45.58 | VIad | easiest mechanic to counter in EU |
| 09:46.13 | Semlar | because no boss in any other instance got bolstered by any other mobs before |
| 09:46.20 | VIad | not that |
| 09:46.34 | VIad | stand within 10yd of him for easy dodging of breath, cave is outside range, and winds requires you to run much less |
| 09:46.47 | VIad | dont see a reason to stand 30yd away, that just makes wind definetly push you into eggs |
| 09:46.53 | Semlar | because pets break the eggs |
| 09:46.58 | VIad | LOL |
| 09:47.11 | Semlar | our dk literally had to spec out of something |
| 09:47.21 | VIad | huehuehue |
| 09:47.38 | VIad | non pet classes > pet classes confirmed |
| 09:47.58 | VIad | or of course, if you can get rid of the pet like MM |
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| 09:50.58 | VIad | managed to get exactly on top of the boss during wind? |
| 09:51.06 | VIad | I did that a couple of times, didn't move me :3 |
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| 09:54.51 | Constie | This is getting a little silly. http://i.imgur.com/E89vt6H.png |
| 09:55.00 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:02.34 | VIad | the tooltip code now needs to consider mythic+ modes :< |
| 10:02.41 | VIad | since affices probably will change on the numbers |
| 10:04.48 | nebula | bolstering is really really really annoying to deal with |
| 10:05.47 | nebula | in dht we fucked up before that dragon and had a tainted ele thing with like 239m health x.x |
| 10:06.10 | VIad | should see how much you can buff the boss with killing whelps in the eggs :d |
| 10:06.15 | VIad | try overflow the servers |
| 10:06.23 | Semlar | so we did a mythic 5 arcway earlier |
| 10:06.40 | nebula | noticed the whelps buffed the boss just before she died, definitely not suppose to |
| 10:07.01 | Semlar | we pulled the entire spider room at once just to sacrifice the tank |
| 10:07.19 | Semlar | because the spiders explode when they die |
| 10:07.40 | Semlar | and with bolstering it was just ridiculous |
| 10:08.13 | modernist | lol |
| 10:08.14 | nebula | we didn't have a problem with that, pull the entire room and just kite, i think we only had one super spider but it was close to dead |
| 10:08.38 | Semlar | pfft, kite |
| 10:08.47 | nebula | when the mobs have really different hp it's hard |
| 10:09.02 | Semlar | binding shot interrupts barrage when it procs and it's incredibly annoying for situations like that |
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| 10:09.18 | Semlar | like i can't just drop a binding shot on that massive group of spiders and then barrage them |
| 10:09.20 | Semlar | because it's broken |
| 10:09.40 | Semlar | i can either binding shot or barrage |
| 10:09.46 | Semlar | but not both |
| 10:10.11 | VIad | you meant blackrook hold spiders in the stairs or? |
| 10:10.19 | Semlar | arcway |
| 10:10.26 | nebula | the spiders before the spider boss |
| 10:10.27 | VIad | ah yes spiders |
| 10:10.36 | VIad | do the tiny spider bombs also bolster nearby spiders? |
| 10:10.41 | VIad | they are level 1 critters :d |
| 10:11.24 | VIad | its the tiny purple spiders you step on and they do aoe dmg too |
| 10:11.36 | VIad | or those were the once you were saying bolstered the big nearby spiders |
| 10:11.53 | bluspacecow | back! |
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| 10:12.04 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.13 | nebula | also, how do you upload keystone runs on wcl? i tried and it just showed unknown zone with only the last boss of each dungeon/trash in the drop down |
| 10:12.44 | VIad | is it me, or is trash % like broken? |
| 10:12.56 | VIad | some dungeons like the maw, you might end up having to pull some extra packs |
| 10:13.13 | VIad | meanwhile HOV, wardens, arcway by the looks of it, you get to 100% half way :p |
| 10:13.52 | modernist | the timeleft value seems a little sketchy here and there too |
| 10:14.17 | Semlar | the arcway timer is 45 minutes |
| 10:14.28 | modernist | though i admit ive only done a couple of different runs so far |
| 10:14.32 | Semlar | i think it took us an hour to finish |
| 10:14.37 | Semlar | but we wiped.. a lot |
| 10:14.41 | modernist | hah |
| 10:15.02 | modernist | do higher difficulties affect the time? |
| 10:15.04 | Semlar | well, the ghosts really screwed us over a couple times |
| 10:15.24 | VIad | you have to zerg those asap |
| 10:15.27 | Semlar | because if someone died and released and tried to run back, they inevitably had a ghost in the way |
| 10:15.48 | VIad | they should run past and shadowmeld to drop the aggro |
| 10:15.58 | modernist | god its really depressing watching il'gynoth vids where people mop the floor with the encounter after wiping on him for a couple hours last night |
| 10:16.22 | modernist | pretty sure we're just getting dps checked |
| 10:16.40 | VIad | how do you see the floor effects with the settings at minimum? |
| 10:16.44 | ls- | and I'm sitting here, waiting for lfr to open, lol |
| 10:17.06 | bluspacecow | where going ? |
| 10:18.10 | modernist | oh cool osx sierra has decided to download itself |
| 10:18.18 | modernist | guess ill go cut the lawn for an hour |
| 10:18.36 | bluspacecow | the lawn takes you an hour to cut ? |
| 10:18.55 | modernist | il do it really slowly |
| 10:19.08 | VIad | isn't sierra defunct? |
| 10:19.17 | bluspacecow | do art in it |
| 10:19.18 | VIad | thought valve bought their IP years ago |
| 10:19.37 | bluspacecow | ha ha Vlad |
| 10:19.43 | VIad | ah it was activision |
| 10:19.46 | bluspacecow | Apple OS X Sierra , the latest version of OS X |
| 10:19.59 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:20.01 | VIad | I guessed that |
| 10:20.26 | bluspacecow | @modernist http://www.techradar.com/how-to/computing/macos-sierra-problems-here-s-how-to-fix-the-most-common-issues-1329043 |
| 10:20.33 | VIad | it's nice being a DH, there is a talent that practically puts you at 30% hp if you die |
| 10:20.36 | modernist | oh good |
| 10:20.48 | VIad | DK one requires you to heal it up and its hard if the dmg is too much |
| 10:20.51 | modernist | nothing like damage control on a fresh upgrade |
| 10:21.35 | modernist | i had the second one but thats because i genuinely have no space on this ssd |
| 10:21.44 | Semlar | you can see he's doing a million dps so he brought this on himself |
| 10:21.45 | modernist | i think i have 4gb free |
| 10:22.01 | VIad | it's odd there are such issues on mac, since the hardware is 100% controlled by apple |
| 10:22.19 | VIad | unlike windows where you have different manufacturers for all the parts, so you can have systems that are unstable or acting weird due to drivers or whatnot |
| 10:22.52 | VIad | million dps is doable with enough mobs, yes:p |
| 10:23.00 | VIad | if they only didnt explode |
| 10:23.24 | Semlar | and buff everything around them |
| 10:23.42 | Semlar | i don't know how much health those last spiders had, but they were at 0% and took a while to kill |
| 10:23.47 | modernist | which dps meter is that semlar |
| 10:23.52 | Semlar | details |
| 10:24.03 | modernist | ah, yes |
| 10:24.10 | VIad | skada, recount, details |
| 10:24.22 | VIad | I use details too |
| 10:24.22 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 10:24.28 | bluspacecow | an addon called details |
| 10:24.28 | modernist | you forgot tinydps, which i am using for some reason |
| 10:24.39 | VIad | "Details!" |
| 10:24.51 | VIad | just disable like, all the modules :p |
| 10:25.03 | VIad | it comes with like 10 plugins that are not vital |
| 10:25.19 | Semlar | are you trying to say the 3D model plugin isn't vital |
| 10:25.19 | VIad | Semlar: pugging? |
| 10:25.29 | VIad | I noticed the guilds are mixed |
| 10:25.46 | Semlar | sort of |
| 10:25.55 | modernist | what on earth is the 3d model used for |
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| 10:26.05 | VIad | assumed raiding guild had some groups doing this together :< |
| 10:27.01 | modernist | Encounter Details: a raid encounter tool, shows dps graphics, summary of dispells, interrupts, deaths, emotes, aura tools, and more... |
| 10:27.16 | modernist | i guess this one of those "cake and eat it too" addons |
| 10:27.54 | Semlar | i try not to accidentally mouse over details |
| 10:28.10 | Semlar | or navigate its menus |
| 10:29.05 | Semlar | none of these people are raiders and i'm not currently raiding |
| 10:29.24 | Constie | I guess you would have it showing the model of the boss you're DPSing, like portraits on unit frames. |
| 10:29.38 | VIad | what happend with the guild, Semlar? |
| 10:29.40 | Semlar | nah you can set the background of the bars to 3D models |
| 10:29.46 | Semlar | nothing, i'm just not raiding with them |
| 10:30.00 | VIad | I thought you were in the core |
| 10:30.10 | VIad | so assumed something was going wrong |
| 10:30.12 | Semlar | i was, but i stopped playing almost a year ago |
| 10:30.20 | VIad | we all did |
| 10:30.25 | VIad | at least, I did too :p |
| 10:30.35 | VIad | limit to how fun farming hfc was |
| 10:30.38 | modernist | if it was me, id have it so all the other members pop up and shake hands with the 3d model of the top dps |
| 10:30.50 | bluspacecow | I love the tech support forums sometimes |
| 10:30.59 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.08 | bluspacecow | Ok post pathping data |
| 10:31.16 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.19 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.30 | Semlar | my solution is to not read forums |
| 10:31.31 | Constie | I surprised myself by remembering to take a screenshot during last night's raid. http://i.imgur.com/M9ERI41.jpg |
| 10:31.35 | VIad | if you were alliance Semlar we could play together. I usually need good dps in my groups |
| 10:31.49 | modernist | hey that looks pretty good |
| 10:32.32 | Semlar | is constance running two boss mods |
| 10:32.35 | bluspacecow | WTH is this shit : http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749245380 |
| 10:32.38 | bluspacecow | shitpost |
| 10:32.42 | bluspacecow | shitposts everywhere |
| 10:33.00 | Constie | On our first attempt that boss despawned near the end because ???, and on our second attempt I died because I tried to jump to a lower web bridge and missed. |
| 10:33.07 | Semlar | i prefer this one http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749158485 |
| 10:33.11 | Constie | Why would I run two boss mods? |
| 10:33.23 | modernist | you're getting two printouts in succession from bigwigs |
| 10:33.27 | Constie | Oh, right. |
| 10:33.38 | Constie | Yeah, it was doing that for the first attempt. I also didn't actually have the debuff. |
| 10:33.44 | VIad | I shitpost your reddit too, bluspacecow |
| 10:33.45 | Constie | Then I updated BigWigs and it stopped! |
| 10:33.57 | modernist | well i got 100 errors a second from bigwigs on il'gynoth |
| 10:34.11 | modernist | so consider yourself lucky |
| 10:34.18 | Funkeh` | that was fixed 4 versions ago |
| 10:34.23 | nebula | that was fixed pretty fast, was from spew corruption |
| 10:34.26 | modernist | i know that! |
| 10:34.38 | modernist | we had a 1000+ queue though |
| 10:34.47 | modernist | so i didnt really feel like relogging to fix it |
| 10:34.50 | Funkeh` | you don't loose your queue for relogging |
| 10:34.55 | Funkeh` | and you don't need to to update |
| 10:34.58 | Funkeh` | you can /reload |
| 10:35.01 | VIad | I still get errors from the blizz UI when I target certain player in vehicles, or when some auras are applied on some target |
| 10:35.07 | VIad | happens from time to time :p |
| 10:35.10 | modernist | well |
| 10:35.18 | modernist | il do that next time |
| 10:35.21 | Funkeh` | you have to be offline for ~10 minutes to loose your queue |
| 10:35.42 | modernist | really? i thought it was like 30/60seconds |
| 10:35.46 | modernist | thats cool |
| 10:35.57 | Funkeh` | maybe 5 minutes, but it's generous for DCing |
| 10:35.58 | modernist | guess i can go for "whoops disconnected" shitbreaks after all |
| 10:36.00 | VIad | I never timed it, but there is a timer so you keep your spot until you go off long enough |
| 10:36.05 | bluspacecow | that last post on the thread you linked semlar. total burn |
| 10:36.12 | bluspacecow | 1000% effective |
| 10:37.09 | Semlar | i only got to that post from this one http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749008221 |
| 10:37.30 | Semlar | which was in the ui forum |
| 10:38.45 | bluspacecow | those people remind of the people that come out of the woodwork when there's server unstabilitys or DDoS going on |
| 10:38.47 | VIad | court of stars must be so lame |
| 10:38.57 | VIad | in mythic+ when you have to find that guy |
| 10:39.02 | VIad | and you are the only one that knows what to do |
| 10:39.02 | bluspacecow | the type that knows enough tech to be dangerous SJWs with it |
| 10:39.24 | modernist | talking of which |
| 10:39.27 | modernist | what do you do there |
| 10:39.40 | bluspacecow | Fisker |
| 10:39.43 | bluspacecow | Fisker is what I do |
| 10:39.45 | bluspacecow | :P |
| 10:39.48 | Constie | "If one is not handicap should not be using it, it is a imoral." |
| 10:41.21 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749215306 |
| 10:41.25 | bluspacecow | possible or nah ? |
| 10:42.09 | Semlar | yes and it exists |
| 10:42.30 | VIad | possible |
| 10:42.40 | Semlar | i think i helped someone improve their enemy player detection a long time ago |
| 10:42.57 | Fisker | n |
| 10:43.02 | bluspacecow | you |
| 10:43.07 | VIad | CLEU and some timers for visibility? and frames that do /targetexact, Semlar? |
| 10:43.37 | Semlar | i showed them how to make a tooltip for a unit so they could get more info on them |
| 10:43.53 | VIad | does that still work? |
| 10:43.55 | Semlar | but i don't remember what the addon was called |
| 10:44.06 | Semlar | spy |
| 10:44.16 | modernist | http://i.imgur.com/XT2y9zR.png |
| 10:44.19 | modernist | god damnit |
| 10:44.21 | VIad | the tooltip doesn't work if they are not within visibility range? |
| 10:44.29 | Semlar | well who cares if they aren't in range |
| 10:44.34 | VIad | yeah |
| 10:44.41 | Semlar | the whole point is knowing who's in range |
| 10:44.44 | VIad | was just wondering if it didnt cache the tooltip :p |
| 10:45.00 | VIad | 120 gb HDD? |
| 10:45.04 | VIad | wtf is this, 2005? |
| 10:45.28 | VIad | your micro sd card is larger |
| 10:45.56 | modernist | job(s) economy |
| 10:45.59 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.02 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:51.56 | modernist | oh i guess i took a raid shot too |
| 10:51.58 | modernist | http://i.cubeupload.com/wOYT7Z.png |
| 10:52.13 | modernist | with some truly awful dps |
| 10:53.19 | modernist | still think my raid aura tracking is kind of shit compared to the simplicity of yours constie |
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| 10:54.48 | VIad | yes sem |
| 10:54.53 | VIad | there are like 20-30 NPCs :p |
| 10:55.00 | VIad | with different models |
| 10:55.09 | VIad | and I bet the right one is scripted to change |
| 10:55.22 | VIad | so you can map out the features of each NPC |
| 10:55.23 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.39 | VIad | *checks last runs log for NPCid* |
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| 10:55.56 | Semlar | i can tell you it wasn't the same one that i killed last week |
| 10:55.59 | VIad | mine was 112697 |
| 10:56.24 | VIad | so you need to map http://www.wowhead.com/search?q=Suspicious+Noble |
| 10:56.51 | Semlar | well wowhead has them casting righteous indignation so that almost certainly means you can't figure this out |
| 10:57.38 | VIad | no listen |
| 10:57.45 | VIad | if you get a list of all the NPC ids possible |
| 10:57.59 | VIad | and map out what NPC is male, female, has a pouch, cloak, white clothing, and so on |
| 10:58.08 | VIad | the clues can then substantially narrow down who the right NPCid is |
| 10:58.21 | VIad | in some cases you might quickly reduce the suspects down to a few |
| 10:58.38 | bluspacecow | so z = total_numberNPCs possible then do a loop testing every ID up to Z ? |
| 10:58.39 | Semlar | well yes, you could probably match the model to the nameplate |
| 10:58.44 | nevcairiel | except that this would mean you personally have to go talk to everyone, much faster to have multiple people do it and communicate the clues =p |
| 10:58.44 | Semlar | once you know the clues |
| 10:58.57 | VIad | if its an addon, addonchannel |
| 10:59.07 | VIad | otherwise if they say the clue they got, you could enter it in your addon |
| 10:59.17 | aelen | hey guys, last night I was trying to get my grid2 to look like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtkRdzKvjTI but I was having some difficulty |
| 10:59.17 | VIad | I mean its still quicker than having everyone running and inspecting people slowly :p |
| 10:59.25 | Semlar | it would mean saving time when you're on a timer |
| 10:59.27 | nevcairiel | the time it takes to do that, you can just spot the described one manually |
| 10:59.30 | nevcairiel | its not actually hard |
| 10:59.43 | VIad | can be quicker with addons |
| 10:59.44 | Semlar | it would definitely be faster than visually inspecting everyone |
| 10:59.51 | modernist | aelen: birg himself is probably the best person to ask |
| 11:00.01 | modernist | pm him on mmo-champion or something |
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| 11:00.19 | aelen | the way I thought I would achieve this is to use health-deficit rather than health-current on the action bar, and then have a semi-transparent white background... but when I switched health-deficit a dark background was drawn behind the frame |
| 11:00.22 | aelen | yeah true |
| 11:01.05 | VIad | Semlar: did the db files have entries for creatures? |
| 11:01.19 | Semlar | that looks like kait ui aelen |
| 11:01.27 | ls- | being enchanter is dangerous now T_T I can't disenchant anything in dungs, cuz people tend to kick me T_T |
| 11:01.38 | VIad | could scan it quickly for the complete list, get the IDs, inspect their displayIDs and fill out their proprties in some db :p |
| 11:01.42 | aelen | Semlar: it's this actually: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info24147-BirgsDruidUI-Legion.html |
| 11:01.42 | VIad | for the addon to use |
| 11:01.54 | Semlar | it might be, but he looks like he copied kait's ui |
| 11:01.57 | aelen | guess I should just load up his grid config and try to figure out what he did |
| 11:01.59 | aelen | oh could be |
| 11:02.04 | aelen | and I'm copy his in turn |
| 11:02.04 | aelen | :p |
| 11:02.08 | aelen | gonna * |
| 11:02.36 | aelen | some of it, anyway - I like the way the map/raid frame cluster is handled, so that's what I'm currently working ont |
| 11:02.41 | aelen | s/ont/on |
| 11:05.37 | VIad | Semlar: is it still possible to tooltip scan npc by ID? |
| 11:05.43 | VIad | for their name :p |
| 11:05.47 | Semlar | yes |
| 11:06.05 | VIad | nice. I'll do that later to get the complete list of the nobles |
| 11:06.17 | VIad | I assume they are all unique NPCs with scripted who the bad guy is |
| 11:06.21 | VIad | so its random each time |
| 11:07.30 | VIad | addon could also actually help, as clues are gathered, to whisper people that attempt to speak to the wrong guy that they shouldn't bother talking to that targeted NPC :p |
| 11:07.45 | VIad | last time 3 guys got kicked out |
| 11:09.28 | ls- | damn, I need to release an update for ls_toasts T_T |
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| 11:16.10 | VIad | you don't have to, ls- ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 11:16.56 | ls- | I need to... and then forget about it till 7.1 release :p |
| 11:18.48 | VIad | reddit lets me post once every 10 min lol |
| 11:19.00 | VIad | explains why I cba to post replies usually |
| 11:20.12 | VIad | I like the error |
| 11:20.18 | VIad | "you are doing that too much. try again in 8 minute.s" |
| 11:20.32 | VIad | (swap s and . in the quote) |
| 11:20.54 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1474543251.png |
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| 11:49.54 | karl_w_w | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/728564895/honey-spray |
| 11:50.03 | karl_w_w | some people are just beyond help |
| 11:52.06 | VIad | doesn't honey have calories? |
| 11:52.50 | Arrowmaster | it says flavored |
| 11:53.12 | Arrowmaster | also bound to fail as they will have to pass fda standards |
| 11:53.54 | karl_w_w | it doesn't even say what it's made of |
| 11:54.20 | karl_w_w | it's clearly just a passing thought he had |
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| 11:54.48 | Arrowmaster | report it |
| 11:55.18 | nevcairiel | its interesting that his challenges dont mention anything about actually producing the stuff |
| 11:55.23 | nevcairiel | just like .. shipping is hard, hmkay? |
| 11:55.57 | karl_w_w | bottles might not be available! |
| 11:56.16 | karl_w_w | how about "bottles might not even be possible"? |
| 11:56.58 | karl_w_w | his idea is probably just to dilute honey so much that 1 spray is less than 0.5 calories |
| 11:57.50 | karl_w_w | although calling it an idea is probably too generous |
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| 12:11.36 | VIad | "one bottles of the finished honey spray product" |
| 12:11.42 | VIad | isn't it "one bottle" ? |
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| 12:12.19 | VIad | I like how you must get to $1k in order to get t-shirts involved. isn't that more of the 50 or $100 goals? |
| 12:12.49 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:13.00 | bluspacecow | now to reload https://us.api.battle.net/wow/realm/status?locale=en_US&apikey= |
| 12:13.07 | bluspacecow | till my realm is up |
| 12:13.24 | VIad | forbidden, account inactive |
| 12:13.32 | bluspacecow | you need an APIkey |
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| 12:14.10 | VIad | does it help to keep reloading it, then? |
| 12:14.18 | bluspacecow | not really |
| 12:14.26 | ls- | :D |
| 12:14.50 | VIad | you can drop the locale too I guess, it defaults to US since you query the us realm :p |
| 12:14.52 | VIad | domain* |
| 12:15.06 | bluspacecow | incoming spam |
| 12:15.07 | bluspacecow | {"type":"pve","population":"n/a","queue":false,"status":false,"name":"Muradin","slug":"muradin","battlegroup":"Vengeance","locale":"en_US","timezone":"America/Chicago","connected_realms":["nordrassil","muradin"]}, |
| 12:15.20 | bluspacecow | https://dev.battle.net/io-docs |
| 12:15.54 | bluspacecow | status is meant to be -1 - 3 |
| 12:16.06 | bluspacecow | i guess "false" means it couldn't get a value ? |
| 12:16.21 | ls- | damn, I'm a bit afraid of adding scrolling to my config panel... from my experience, average user isn't smart enough to figure out that it's possible to scroll down/up, even if scroll bar is visible T_T |
| 12:16.46 | ls- | I might add some "hints" |
| 12:17.07 | bluspacecow | scroll down you motherfuckers! |
| 12:17.08 | ls- | that there are more options, if one scrolls down a bit T_T |
| 12:17.13 | ls- | yeah, sorta.. |
| 12:17.22 | VIad | jesus blizz added new api to their... api |
| 12:17.30 | bluspacecow | oh ? |
| 12:17.34 | bluspacecow | to the web API ? |
| 12:17.35 | VIad | /wow/boss is new |
| 12:17.37 | VIad | yes |
| 12:17.39 | bluspacecow | or the thing I linked |
| 12:17.50 | bluspacecow | the /boss endpoints been there for a while |
| 12:18.01 | VIad | last time I looked up the api docs was over a year ago |
| 12:18.50 | bluspacecow | https://us.api.battle.net/wow/realm/status?locale=en_US&apikey=ush8ftbz8ppug8vtfbh9x8pjp7bwf4yk |
| 12:18.55 | bluspacecow | try loading that Vlad |
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| 12:19.08 | bluspacecow | INDUSTRIAL |
| 12:19.12 | bluspacecow | how the F are ya |
| 12:19.24 | VIad | you forgot to add a space to the front now your key is logged |
| 12:19.38 | bluspacecow | oh rly ? |
| 12:19.43 | karl_w_w | who makes an oven that won't work unless you set the time on it? |
| 12:19.54 | VIad | karl_w_w: safety feature? |
| 12:19.54 | bluspacecow | a german |
| 12:20.10 | karl_w_w | the real time, not like a timer |
| 12:20.35 | karl_w_w | I dont know how to set the time on the oven, and I want to use it! :P |
| 12:20.39 | VIad | LOL |
| 12:20.53 | bluspacecow | anyone find any alternative realm status sites other then https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/game/status |
| 12:20.58 | VIad | sounds like my mom and the VCR all over again |
| 12:21.16 | VIad | bluspacecow: what is your realm, menethil? |
| 12:21.31 | bluspacecow | Muradin |
| 12:22.39 | VIad | weird they dont have a filter in the url option |
| 12:24.04 | bluspacecow | Well then |
| 12:24.08 | bluspacecow | I must as well |
| 12:24.11 | bluspacecow | have something to |
| 12:24.12 | bluspacecow | eat |
| 12:24.33 | VIad | what does space cows eat? |
| 12:24.43 | ls- | eating is good :p |
| 12:24.46 | bluspacecow | mostly what you do |
| 12:24.53 | ls- | being hungry sucks :p |
| 12:25.09 | VIad | I don't eat in space |
| 12:25.14 | VIad | I don't live in space, so |
| 12:26.15 | ls- | do Norwegians eat red caviar? O_o |
| 12:26.23 | bluspacecow | no |
| 12:26.26 | bluspacecow | they eat rotten fish |
| 12:26.40 | nevcairiel | does it make a difference what color your raw fish eggs have? |
| 12:26.55 | ls- | taste is different o_O |
| 12:27.20 | nevcairiel | terrible, awful, and disgusting? :d not sure I care about the differences in that category |
| 12:28.15 | VIad | eaten caviar like two three times in my life, it's okay but not something I'd eat a lot of |
| 12:29.45 | ls- | so, not something like this http://eurrus.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/c80929548727a36a4119b112dfedb74c. |
| 12:30.06 | karl_w_w | I'm not bothered by caviar, I just don't see the appeal |
| 12:30.29 | foxlit | the rare case where the dot at the end an url is not a mistake |
| 12:30.32 | VIad | that person must really love alcohol and vaviar |
| 12:30.39 | VIad | caviar* |
| 12:30.46 | VIad | who puts a . at the end of a url? |
| 12:30.48 | VIad | russians |
| 12:32.09 | ls- | do you like eating crabs, VIad? :D |
| 12:32.22 | karl_w_w | I thought it might be a case of it's meant to be .jpg but the server is smart enough to return the image as long as there is .something |
| 12:32.28 | karl_w_w | but no, .jpg doesnt work |
| 12:33.45 | VIad | generally not a big fan of a lot of sea and shell food :p |
| 12:34.20 | VIad | didn't work, karl_w_w |
| 12:34.25 | VIad | tried adding .jpg jpeg png gif |
| 12:34.30 | VIad | its clearly a jpg image ofc :p |
| 12:34.43 | ls- | damn, local Norwegians eat a lot of seafood, it's so strange... |
| 12:36.55 | VIad | dunno |
| 12:37.11 | VIad | didn't get that impression from all the times hanging with friends and seeing what they like to eat :p |
| 12:41.14 | VIad | what are you looking at, ls-? since you talk about seafood now. |
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| 12:48.35 | ls- | stuff... |
| 12:48.42 | VIad | >_> |
| 12:49.08 | ls- | red caviar :D |
| 12:49.11 | VIad | I looked uncyclopedia for a thing by accident, noticed late enough, found what I read weird |
| 12:52.28 | bluspacecow | ~wowalert |
| 12:52.28 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 12:53.44 | VIad | the imaginary numbers page on uncyclopedia mentiones any numbers between 1936 and 1944 if you are german |
| 12:53.47 | VIad | <_< |
| 12:53.51 | Freddie | haha |
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| 13:01.51 | ls- | damn, fully upgraded junkies annihilate ruins :p |
| 13:03.33 | ls- | hm, that's interesting, blizz "merged" my realm w/ ravencrest, like one of the biggest horde pvp realms vs one of the biggest ally pvp realms :p |
| 13:04.10 | ls- | open world is so dangerous now, I need to lvl my pvp alt asap :D |
| 13:12.16 | Freddie | that sounds... not fun |
| 13:13.23 | ls- | pvp is fun |
| 13:14.24 | ls- | unfortunately, as a mage I mainly eat dicks in 1 vs many... |
| 13:15.04 | ls- | but I pvp as a dk anyway :p |
| 13:27.39 | ls- | but I feel bad, when I accidentally kill lowbies T_T |
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| 13:43.09 | VIad | TIL dragging addon zip or folder to the game window and dropping it, automatically puts the addon into the right folders |
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| 13:50.46 | ls- | O_o |
| 14:17.05 | ls- | ugh, people who ask for elvui/flat/modern skin for ls toasts are so annoying >:( |
| 14:17.19 | Seeker` | ls-: why do you say that? |
| 14:17.59 | ls- | cuz they're annoying T_T I'm tired of saying "no" again and again T_T |
| 14:18.17 | ls- | I guess, I'll add it to FAQ... |
| 14:18.38 | Seeker` | how easy would it be for someone else to hook in and skin your toasts? |
| 14:19.13 | Seeker` | if it's "not impossible", make a post in the addonskins part of the ElvUI forum, asking for them to skin your addon :P |
| 14:20.41 | VIad | only need to expose the frames in a neat way |
| 14:20.46 | VIad | like IsToasts.Frames or whatnot |
| 14:20.59 | ls- | welp, I did nothing to expose insides of my addon :p but AFAIK Lyn Aurora-ed my toasts for his UI o_O |
| 14:21.18 | VIad | probably GetChildren/Regions stuff |
| 14:21.50 | Seeker` | ls-: If you could expose the frames then someone else may do the work you don't want to do, and you could redirect people to something that may satisfy them rather than "get off my lawn" |
| 14:23.09 | ls- | Vlad: that might be a bit complicated, because I reuse toast frames, I reset them every time I hide them :p |
| 14:23.22 | VIad | but you don't redraw them |
| 14:23.31 | ls- | at least elements that vary from toast to toast |
| 14:23.32 | VIad | I mean |
| 14:23.35 | VIad | sure |
| 14:23.44 | VIad | they will just hook on your Show event probably |
| 14:23.50 | VIad | and apply their skins as it is called |
| 14:23.52 | VIad | re-apply |
| 14:24.03 | ls- | yeah, I think that's what Lyn does... |
| 14:24.20 | VIad | nothing is hidden in wow |
| 14:24.24 | ls- | ofc |
| 14:24.26 | VIad | you can always find a frame reference :p |
| 14:24.33 | VIad | if they want to break things its their decision |
| 14:25.23 | znf | >Nomi will now also check your bank to see if you have any Silver Mackerel for him to burn. |
| 14:25.26 | znf | ...damn arsonist |
| 14:26.49 | Seeker` | apparently in 7.1 burnt food is good for you |
| 14:27.47 | ls- | burnt food might be good IRL too, charcoal and stuff, you know... |
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| 14:29.24 | znf | please tell me that is actually BUYOUT per unit: AUCTION_BROWSE_UNIT_PRICE_SORT: Price Per Unit |
| 14:29.54 | ls- | I guess... |
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| 14:30.11 | ls- | it'd be stupid to add bid price per unit... |
| 14:31.37 | znf | well, excuse my lack of faith :D |
| 14:33.40 | foxlit | three weeks later, I've figured out how to send Broll off to meet his certain doom. |
| 14:33.52 | Thunder_Child | Walk outside? |
| 14:34.01 | VIad | Semlar: I can't find more sucpicious noble than 3 npc ids >_> wtf |
| 14:34.16 | foxlit | ai locks target on your failed attacks. |
| 14:34.39 | VIad | maybe they use "Suspicious Suramar Noble" internally but it shows another name |
| 14:35.03 | foxlit | and default tab targetting logic is wonky, so if you ocassionally mistarget things and then correct after trying to attack, Broll runs off. |
| 14:35.30 | foxlit | if you mistarget something dead, he just stands there like an idiot until combat drops. |
| 14:35.40 | znf | I lose him when I enter a vehicle that moves me from my original position |
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| 14:36.51 | foxlit | that requires a relog, I think. |
| 14:39.24 | ls- | znf: I decided to check it, and yes, items are sorted by buyout price per unit :p |
| 14:39.31 | znf | nice |
| 14:39.32 | foxlit | he does run awkwardly below your moonguard hippogryph, though. |
| 14:45.40 | foxlit | Wish the map wouldn't open sub maps if you clicked on those regions from another zone. |
| 14:46.28 | foxlit | (i.e. click on Highmountain while viewing Stormheim and you'll probably get Thunder Totem; on Val'Sharah when viewing Highmountain and you'll probably get Dreamgrove) |
| 14:53.49 | bluspacecow | so um World Bosses |
| 14:54.02 | bluspacecow | do you get a loot chance every time you fight them |
| 14:54.07 | bluspacecow | or is it once per week or something |
| 14:54.36 | ls- | once per WQ + bonus roll |
| 14:56.36 | znf | TheDanW, Guill: my question is why I can't report groups for selling external services for money. |
| 15:01.01 | bluspacecow | @ls- :( |
| 15:01.22 | bluspacecow | in other news anyone know the sound file names for those annoying harpys in val'sharamamamama |
| 15:02.03 | znf | that's what I asked yesterday |
| 15:02.12 | bluspacecow | any joy ? |
| 15:02.16 | znf | SISTERS AVENGE ME |
| 15:02.17 | znf | nope |
| 15:02.21 | ls- | harpies are herpes... |
| 15:02.26 | ls- | not even cancer... |
| 15:02.53 | pompy | http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20745066087#post-5 |
| 15:04.46 | znf | pompy, you can reply to that |
| 15:04.52 | znf | adding "you can't mute spell sounds anymore" |
| 15:06.27 | bluspacecow | @znf http://www.wowhead.com/sounds/name:harpy |
| 15:06.52 | bluspacecow | VO_70_Stoneblood_Harpy_B_01 |
| 15:06.54 | bluspacecow | to 27 |
| 15:07.07 | kullervo | znf: I report their name or description |
| 15:07.24 | kullervo | since I believe the name and description are logged at the time of complaint |
| 15:15.24 | *** join/#wowuidev Andols (~yaaic@62-20-145-33-no170.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 15:15.37 | VIad | this can't be legitimate |
| 15:15.41 | *** join/#wowuidev g0urra (~g0urra@unaffiliated/gourra) |
| 15:15.59 | VIad | some guy spamming sell messages all day long, like when the raid was out already spamming selling boosts for it :/ |
| 15:16.06 | VIad | it has to be some scam, IRL money involved crap |
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| 15:17.14 | kullervo | yeah the boost spam is a company that uses multiple accounts to spam all realms |
| 15:18.18 | VIad | wish I could add a note on my friend list why I ignored someone :p |
| 15:19.45 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/OrMQDoh.png |
| 15:19.46 | znf | thanks blizzard |
| 15:35.37 | Seeker` | znf: what are you thanking them for?> |
| 15:35.57 | znf | mobs that jump behind te terrain |
| 15:37.28 | Seeker` | You don't have the easiest UI to read |
| 15:37.44 | znf | You see where the nameplate is? |
| 15:37.58 | znf | does it look to you like there's a visible mob there? |
| 15:37.59 | Seeker` | yeah |
| 15:38.02 | Seeker` | no |
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| 15:44.19 | znf | lol |
| 15:44.21 | znf | 3.5k for a flask |
| 15:44.23 | znf | fuuuck that |
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| 15:45.12 | nevcairiel | just learn herbalism if you're a cheapskate |
| 15:45.14 | pompy | there is a cave right there though |
| 15:45.17 | pompy | go into it! |
| 15:45.40 | znf | I have it on my druid |
| 15:45.58 | znf | but I'm not paying 3.5k for a fucking flask, that's just out of principle |
| 15:46.17 | nevcairiel | out of principle i wont take people raiding that dont even bother to flask up |
| 15:46.21 | nevcairiel | so take your pick :D |
| 15:46.37 | znf | I don't raid |
| 15:46.48 | znf | just doing mythic+4 |
| 15:47.00 | znf | also, flasking for a normal pug, fuck that |
| 15:47.15 | znf | I'll flask for a heroic |
| 15:56.22 | Seeker` | you don't need 'proper' flasks for normal |
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| 16:00.53 | ls- | wow, trailing whitespaces might be useful... |
| 16:01.08 | ls- | like force line break in md is \s\s |
| 16:01.12 | ls- | and \n |
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| 16:03.58 | ls- | oh well, good ol' <br/> works too... |
| 16:08.24 | VIad | blizz didn't adjust for inflation, the guild rewards for doing stuff :p |
| 16:08.30 | VIad | it's kind of insane |
| 16:08.43 | VIad | was gonna suggest what about buying flasks with guild gold? |
| 16:09.03 | VIad | but then, flasks cost like 100g per flask, and you need many for a raid, and the gold you can get from guild rewards is nothing these days |
| 16:11.03 | Ressy | Flasks cost 100g? Lmao |
| 16:11.13 | Ressy | I sold an intellect flask for 4k gold yesterday. |
| 16:11.26 | VIad | even better |
| 16:11.54 | VIad | why didnt we get gold adjustment for legion and guild rewards? |
| 16:14.16 | VIad | miss the % of gold went to bank |
| 16:14.22 | VIad | it was a doable system |
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| 16:46.11 | TheDanW | znf: just report for spam |
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| 16:46.31 | znf | TheDanW, group report doesn't have spam :P |
| 16:47.28 | TheDanW | ls-: thanks forwarded :) |
| 16:47.37 | TheDanW | znf: why are you grouping with spammers? |
| 16:47.54 | ls- | <3 |
| 16:48.30 | znf | I'm not? |
| 16:48.36 | znf | I'm browsing trough the group finder tool |
| 16:48.47 | TheDanW | ahhh, ok, that makes sense |
| 16:49.59 | znf | they're using the "voice chat" field to promote their website |
| 16:50.10 | VIad | TheDanW: do I really have to explain stuff if I find a bot in the world, like location, time and date and such? |
| 16:50.29 | Yoshimo | something needs to be done against realm hoppers abusing groups that just want to do certain quests or mobs, getting enough people together takes a lot of time and your chat history is flooded with joins and leaves |
| 16:50.32 | VIad | the rare cases I find one and want to report the player, I am asked to write info that is easily read out of my character :p |
| 16:50.40 | TheDanW | VIad: it can help |
| 16:50.47 | znf | leave the bots alone! :D |
| 16:50.51 | TheDanW | doesn't need to be super detailed |
| 16:50.55 | VIad | like time and date ,_, |
| 16:50.55 | znf | they provide raw mats :-S |
| 16:51.01 | VIad | well I just wrote the ticket, can't you use that? |
| 16:51.08 | TheDanW | honestly not sure why time/date is requested |
| 16:51.20 | VIad | or location - well I hit submit and he is within 30 yards of me |
| 16:51.22 | znf | you get the report time/date, you probably get other shit like guid, even |
| 16:51.39 | VIad | if I target someone and report them, the game knows everything it needs to know |
| 16:51.44 | znf | yup |
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| 16:51.59 | VIad | shouldnt be needed for me to write information that is already known :p |
| 16:52.32 | znf | wish we could bug TheDanW about gameplay issues |
| 16:52.45 | VIad | I think he is glad we can't |
| 16:52.54 | ls- | :D |
| 16:52.57 | znf | all should be fair, except class balance/mechanic :D |
| 16:52.59 | TheDanW | if you report without details it's still preferred over not reporting |
| 16:53.19 | VIad | I remember back in old AV, addons just reported everyone in intervals |
| 16:53.21 | znf | I would like to ask him, for example, WTF does the Tailoring Saddle do? >_< |
| 16:53.22 | VIad | to hurry with the afk checks ;p |
| 16:53.44 | modernist | i guessed less fall damage |
| 16:53.58 | znf | nope |
| 16:53.58 | ls- | znf: oh, that's a good question... |
| 16:54.00 | znf | same fall damage |
| 16:54.03 | znf | still dismounted |
| 16:54.05 | znf | from combat |
| 16:54.06 | znf | still dazed |
| 16:54.17 | znf | still the same mount speed |
| 16:54.18 | VIad | it just looks cool maybe? |
| 16:54.22 | znf | no effect? |
| 16:54.26 | VIad | placebo |
| 16:54.26 | znf | no visual effect, I mean |
| 16:54.30 | ls- | and can't interact w/ anything while mounted... |
| 16:54.38 | modernist | your character model just eventually gets a slightly bigger butt on its character model |
| 16:54.45 | VIad | it probably increases aggro radius by 1yd :p |
| 16:54.55 | modernist | hm, i should make this window bigger so i can see my entire sentence before i hit submit |
| 16:55.03 | ls- | VIad: I loled IRL :D |
| 16:56.43 | karl_w_w | so i was playing hearthstone, i had 5 mana, i spent 2 mana then innervated twice and had 6 mana |
| 16:56.44 | karl_w_w | wtf |
| 16:57.32 | ls- | VIad: why vIad and not vLad? O_o |
| 16:57.41 | VIad | someone else uses it |
| 16:57.58 | VIad | think Torhal has some membership forms left for you to join the hate club |
| 16:58.26 | ls- | yeah, I might need one... |
| 16:58.32 | ls- | >:o |
| 16:59.19 | Seeker` | Yeah, how dare he have a name of his choice :P |
| 16:59.38 | Seeker` | The ` in my nickname ends up annoying people for some reason |
| 16:59.43 | VIad | Vlad is always busy, think the guy is like my age so he wont be dying anytime soon |
| 17:00.13 | TheDanW | there are methods |
| 17:00.20 | VIad | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 17:00.44 | VIad | a little death of natural causes you say? |
| 17:00.59 | TheDanW | can neither confirm nor deny |
| 17:01.01 | Seeker` | znf: I'd like to know what the rogue detect ability is used for |
| 17:01.06 | VIad | traps |
| 17:01.13 | ls- | thai traps :D |
| 17:01.20 | VIad | the kind with a penis |
| 17:01.29 | Seeker` | no, there's a decection spell you can learn from the class hall. for a "certain kind of creature" |
| 17:01.55 | ls- | death by snu snu, sorta.. |
| 17:02.31 | VIad | snu snu my favorite death kind |
| 17:04.28 | ls- | even if snu snu is performed by thai trap? o_O |
| 17:05.20 | VIad | better having snu snu than death by drowning |
| 17:05.28 | ls- | well, yeah... |
| 17:05.57 | TheDanW | speaking of rogue, i need a decent RTB tracker |
| 17:06.21 | Seeker` | TheDanW: what part do you want to track? |
| 17:06.29 | VIad | RTB? |
| 17:06.34 | Seeker` | roll the bones |
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| 17:07.03 | TheDanW | need to pull the buffs out of the normal aura list and show a minimal version of active ones elsewhere |
| 17:07.22 | TheDanW | they get lost soeasily in raids with several rows of auras |
| 17:07.29 | VIad | you can make a weakauras for them :d |
| 17:07.49 | Seeker` | I use a weakaura that has a bar per buff, with a description of the buff effect |
| 17:07.55 | Seeker` | that counts down remaining duration |
| 17:08.36 | VIad | btw WQ with gold rewards are a joke |
| 17:08.41 | VIad | unless its those elites with >500g :p |
| 17:08.47 | VIad | anything else is not worth doing if its only gold |
| 17:09.14 | ls- | don't do them then :p |
| 17:09.16 | VIad | also TheDanW the gold guild activity rewards are so cataclysm dated |
| 17:09.32 | TheDanW | 400g for the entire guild, so good ;) |
| 17:09.40 | VIad | >_> |
| 17:09.41 | VIad | 1500g for a raid with a guild |
| 17:09.47 | VIad | 1 flask costs 4k gold |
| 17:09.57 | VIad | you can't even repair bills with 1500g for a whole raid anymore |
| 17:10.09 | VIad | it's only 400g in the guild bank |
| 17:10.18 | ls- | do 3 raids, get 1 flask free! |
| 17:10.21 | VIad | ! |
| 17:15.04 | Ressy | To be fair, most of my flasks sold for 1.5-3k gold... 4k was an outlier from some desperate person starting raiding at 10pm EST, and the AH was empty. |
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| 17:15.24 | TheDanW | they're 3.4k on my server atm :/ |
| 17:16.11 | modernist | i just run around for 20 mins in suramar herbing |
| 17:16.15 | Ressy | Damn. I wanna be on your server raking in that cash. |
| 17:16.19 | modernist | hey presto, enough cash for flasks |
| 17:16.42 | TheDanW | i think the int flasks are less, the seventh demon are high |
| 17:16.47 | Seeker` | TheDanW: how do you feel about outlaw RNG? |
| 17:16.54 | Ressy | I made 20k selling a few flasks 12 hrs before raiding started. |
| 17:17.07 | modernist | i think my int ones were 1.5k each this morning |
| 17:17.53 | TheDanW | Seeker`: it can be annoying rolling a single grand melee 5 times in a row, but usually i find it evens out |
| 17:19.08 | ls- | wow, new kind of spam... http://i.imgur.com/h3Q8FwR.png |
| 17:19.34 | Gnarfoz | maybe for you :D |
| 17:19.44 | Seeker` | ls-: you've not had that before? That's old |
| 17:19.55 | ls- | never ever... |
| 17:20.26 | ls- | might be new on EU realms, mb... |
| 17:20.36 | ls- | cuz prices are still in $$$ :D |
| 17:20.53 | Seeker` | I'm EU |
| 17:21.37 | Gnarfoz | same |
| 17:21.44 | ls- | I've never seen anything like that before :D |
| 17:21.51 | ls- | I was lucky then... |
| 17:23.22 | Gnarfoz | we can be lucky they're not spelling out URLs with corpses arranged on the ground anymore |
| 17:23.28 | Gnarfoz | or with fly-hacking level 1s |
| 17:26.22 | ls- | oh, I remember URLs in gold, animal bones and skin in Lineage2 :p |
| 17:26.31 | ls- | that's long long ago... |
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| 17:31.17 | modernist | ls-, does your toast stuff modify frames that utilise the new framepool functions |
| 17:31.36 | modernist | or just deregister them for your own design |
| 17:33.06 | modernist | im having trouble getting modifications on framepooled frames/textures to stick on first load, usually have to reload or show and hide them to get the changes to register |
| 17:35.20 | ls- | they simply deregister events... there's no need for them to fire for AlertFrame :p |
| 17:35.31 | ls- | cuz default toasts aren't used... |
| 17:36.34 | modernist | right |
| 17:37.18 | modernist | think il do the same thing and work from scratch |
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| 17:40.54 | ls- | it's quite easy, tbh... |
| 17:41.56 | modernist | yeah, for this in particular â it just seemed small enough that i could mod the existing frames. im just changing the textures on the order hall bar followers |
| 17:42.01 | ls- | at first I was thinking about reskinning default toasts and trying to fix (re)acnhoring issues, but then I simply re-implemented whole system :p |
| 17:42.36 | ls- | now I can do whatever I want w/ it :p |
| 17:44.42 | Seeker` | TheDanW: http://i.imgur.com/Wx99Fk8.png that's the WA I use for RTB |
| 17:56.36 | mfgmfg | Seeker`, you should update the #s |
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| 17:58.04 | Simca | Semlar: https://db.tt/0nEBJVQE |
| 17:58.30 | mfgmfg | 2s, 25%, 25%, 50%/25%, +1 CP (it's not x2), 25% |
| 18:01.06 | Semlar | that should have been fixed in the version that's on curse |
| 18:01.21 | TheDanW | Seeker`: i see, i don't need the descriptions, but something similar to that |
| 18:02.01 | Infus | TheDanW: how about his one: https://streamable.com/vr00 |
| 18:02.21 | mfgmfg | that's a bit over the top |
| 18:02.24 | TheDanW | i knew what that would be before i clicked it |
| 18:02.53 | Seeker` | mfgmfg: #s? |
| 18:03.03 | Seeker` | ah, ok |
| 18:03.06 | mfgmfg | Seeker`, 40% numbers are old |
| 18:03.44 | mfgmfg | http://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=193316/roll-the-bones mouseover the spells here for the correct #s |
| 18:04.41 | Seeker` | http://pastebin.com/dqkDBBUh WA string |
| 18:07.01 | Seeker` | runs off to D&D] |
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| 18:44.17 | znf | <Gnarfoz> we can be lucky they're not spelling out URLs with corpses arranged on the ground anymore |
| 18:44.19 | znf | I miss those :( |
| 18:45.24 | znf | wait |
| 18:45.28 | znf | Simca, I want that aura. |
| 18:45.38 | znf | oh, wait, you can't transfer sounds :( |
| 18:47.34 | znf | it's hilarious, tough |
| 18:50.37 | znf | needs screen shaking |
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| 18:52.04 | Gnarfoz | what are you even talking about |
| 18:52.45 | znf | Gnarfoz, https://streamable.com/vr00 |
| 18:52.52 | znf | that was for Infus actually |
| 18:52.55 | Gnarfoz | that's not from Simca |
| 18:52.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 18:52.57 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:52.57 | VIad | TheDanW: is highmaul normal 10 man supposed to drop 0 items in group loot rules? |
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| 18:55.15 | Simca | i figured people just like pinging me |
| 18:55.29 | Simca | VIad: that isn't a UI question by the remotest of standards |
| 18:55.47 | Simca | he is a UI dev. |
| 18:55.49 | VIad | hmm |
| 18:57.03 | Alram | this is probably why people arent allowed to highlight minecraft devs in #minecraft |
| 18:57.20 | Alram | literally everyone asks everything |
| 18:57.23 | VIad | I am doing highmaul solo atm, boss drops gold |
| 18:57.39 | VIad | why is my PL system interfering with the FFA/GL system? |
| 18:57.51 | Alram | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 18:58.04 | VIad | did this happen in legion changes? |
| 18:58.07 | VIad | with new loot stuff |
| 18:58.26 | VIad | I expected the boss to drop 2 items of its table that I probably would vendor, but drop never the less |
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| 19:00.45 | znf | Silly question |
| 19:00.55 | znf | But why is Mythic 840, and Mythic+3 only 845?! :-/ |
| 19:01.20 | zenzelezz | 840+3 is 843, but they rounded it up |
| 19:01.46 | znf | So Mythic+2 is wat? |
| 19:01.53 | znf | my H key is flaky |
| 19:02.01 | zenzelezz | depends on how you round |
| 19:02.01 | bshelden | 845/860 (drop during/class hall) |
| 19:02.09 | bshelden | +2 and +3 are the same. +4/+5, etc |
| 19:02.17 | znf | So WTF is the difference :-| |
| 19:02.26 | bshelden | Between +2 and +3? Not much |
| 19:02.49 | bshelden | Between M and +2, completing the +2 means you get the 860 piece on tuesday. |
| 19:03.29 | bshelden | I have no idea how many pieces are in the box on tuesday. I didn't beta. |
| 19:03.31 | znf | doesn't that depend on your time on M+2? |
| 19:03.40 | bshelden | Time only gates your stone upgrading. |
| 19:03.52 | znf | on beta time got you more chests |
| 19:03.59 | znf | with higher ilvl loot |
| 19:04.04 | bshelden | At end-of-dungeon, you get the chests for the levels you skip |
| 19:04.16 | bshelden | You skip levels by beating the timer |
| 19:04.22 | bshelden | By 5m/10m |
| 19:04.31 | bshelden | If you only just beat it, you skip no levels, so you get only the one box. |
| 19:04.48 | znf | I am aware of that, I've beta enough |
| 19:05.17 | znf | I just don't believe you're right on getting 860 if you beat mythic+2 |
| 19:05.24 | bshelden | ok then |
| 19:05.28 | bshelden | Tuesday will reveal. |
| 19:05.35 | bshelden | Your belief doesn't really matter. |
| 19:05.49 | VIad | someone got 860 something titanforged WQ item so |
| 19:05.55 | VIad | :p |
| 19:06.04 | bshelden | I had a guildie get an 855 piece just a bit ago |
| 19:06.09 | ls- | that someone is you, eh? |
| 19:06.19 | znf | because I've beaten _just_ a m+2 on beta and I'm quite sure I didn't get 860 |
| 19:06.37 | znf | but I got up to 875 from M+7 (and even M+9, but we didnt' make the time there) |
| 19:06.51 | VIad | nope |
| 19:06.56 | VIad | reddit post |
| 19:06.58 | bshelden | znf: Two sources. The end-of-dungeon, which drops 845, and the class hall one, which drops the 860 |
| 19:07.02 | ls- | something isn't quite right... |
| 19:07.07 | znf | I am very much aware. |
| 19:07.09 | bshelden | The latter is better, but there's one box at reset |
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| 19:07.34 | bshelden | But again, your belief really doesn't matter. The box will pop, and what's in it depends on Blizzard, and plans can easily change between now and then. |
| 19:07.45 | znf | I never got 860 on the week I did just a M+2 |
| 19:07.45 | znf | I mean, on the next week, in the class chest |
| 19:08.12 | znf | If what you're saying is right, then because I beat M+4, next week I should get at least 865 |
| 19:08.47 | bshelden | Yep |
| 19:09.01 | bshelden | All I have is this stilly table on wowhead's guide. Nobody can know for sure until Tuesday. |
| 19:09.34 | znf | you won't be able to tuesday anyway |
| 19:09.45 | znf | as the loot is currently locked at 850 base ilvl until mythic raids are released |
| 19:09.53 | bshelden | On tuesday |
| 19:10.05 | znf | Isn't it next next week? |
| 19:10.32 | bshelden | Tuesday, September 27âMythic difficulty for the Emerald Nightmare Raid dungeon opens. The first wing of Raid Finder difficulty for Emerald Nightmare opens. |
| 19:10.37 | bshelden | http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748924744 |
| 19:10.39 | znf | I had an impression that it's further away than this time |
| 19:10.45 | znf | I had an impression that it's further away than that, this time |
| 19:11.13 | znf | On another note |
| 19:11.27 | znf | Does anyone else feel like they reduced the amount of WQs that grant +AP items this week? |
| 19:12.27 | Semlar | upgrades are 100% not based on finishing with 5 or 10 minutes left on the clock |
| 19:13.29 | Semlar | we finished eye of azshara 3 with 6:43 left on the clock and got 1 keystone upgrade and 1 chest |
| 19:13.46 | Semlar | we finished it again with 8:47 left and got 2 upgrades and 2 chests |
| 19:14.10 | Semlar | i have videos of both |
| 19:14.11 | znf | ...did EVERYONE get Nelth+2 this week? :-| |
| 19:15.04 | Semlar | my keystone is for vault of the wardens |
| 19:16.20 | bshelden | I suspected that the upgrade time was more a function of the total time than a hard 5m. I can't find a table of those times anywhere yet. |
| 19:18.10 | TheDanW | VIad: i have no idea |
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| 19:21.59 | VIad | Semlar: http://ss.bool.no/capture_1474572114.png |
| 19:22.37 | Semlar | that's about what the thunder king looked like |
| 19:23.13 | VIad | :d |
| 19:23.30 | VIad | seen some even use abilities to trigger raid warnings on players :d |
| 19:24.44 | VIad | normal is soloable except butcher |
| 19:24.50 | VIad | instadeath at 6 debuffs |
| 19:25.53 | Sharparam | moar dots |
| 19:27.10 | VIad | TheDanW: IsSubmerged was changed a while ago to return same data as IsSwimming, could we get something like an argument we can pass the API to get true/false based if we are under the water surface (like, when breath shows up)? |
| 19:27.39 | VIad | atm I use breath to track that, since IsSubmerged "broke" since druid aquatic/travel changes, but in areas with breathing under water, I can't figure it out :p |
| 19:27.49 | VIad | I use it to mount underwater mounts when I am below the surface :) |
| 19:28.01 | VIad | dunno if other mount addons would benefit from it too |
| 19:28.40 | VIad | just an idea, you can shoot it down ofc |
| 19:33.31 | TheDanW | VIad: it was probably changed due to water walking mounts |
| 19:34.01 | VIad | IsSubmerged used to work like I explained, but since druid form now hybridly changes from aquatic to flying I think thats when this change happened |
| 19:34.15 | VIad | so the code in the UI could remain identical and work for druids :p |
| 19:34.30 | VIad | dunno, it's long time ago |
| 19:34.41 | VIad | just weird we have IsSwimming and IsSubmerged doing the same thing now |
| 19:35.05 | VIad | and no api to figure out when we are in water swimming but not on top of the water surface (where we can breathe) |
| 19:36.03 | TheDanW | they're not actually the same to the game, but in practice they're mostly the same - i'll see about just changing issubmerged to what you'd expect given the name |
| 19:36.36 | VIad | but you are sure just changing it wont break something else? |
| 19:36.53 | VIad | I couldn't find cases where IsSubmerged would return other results than IsSwimming also |
| 19:46.18 | TheDanW | we don't use it anywhere, i'm not sure if any addons are using it and its doing what they want |
| 19:47.47 | TheDanW | seems doutbful |
| 19:48.52 | mfgmfg | Semlar, did you have deaths in either run? |
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| 19:57.29 | VIad | yay DH tank dmg nerfs ^^ |
| 19:57.49 | VIad | directly nerfing survivability since artifact heals us of 15% fire dmg we do |
| 19:57.54 | VIad | so its not just a dmg nerf ,_, |
| 19:57.58 | Gnarfoz | oh noes! |
| 19:58.00 | Gnarfoz | poor you |
| 19:58.22 | VIad | as a tank that wants to survive better yes |
| 19:58.36 | Gnarfoz | you'll be fine. |
| 19:58.47 | Gnarfoz | stand in less stuff to compensate |
| 20:01.50 | VIad | the maxed artifact thing for DH tanks changed to not give hp % but instead add more armor |
| 20:01.56 | VIad | I guess that kind of makes up for this nerf? long term |
| 20:02.20 | VIad | maybe better so you take less physical dmg rather than have to heal more back up |
| 20:02.40 | VIad | I am okay with this. only gotta get my artifact maxed out :p |
| 20:03.37 | VIad | Gnarfoz: got any tips how to skill mining up quicker? |
| 20:03.45 | VIad | legion gave me 1-300 so not much :p |
| 20:03.59 | VIad | was hoping for some +5 skill nodes or something |
| 20:05.05 | VIad | atm running on timeless mining ghost iron ore |
| 20:08.51 | Maldivia | why you need to level it up? |
| 20:12.23 | VIad | need higher lvl for legion mining quests |
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| 20:23.20 | Ironii | you only need like 100? |
| 20:35.00 | znf | wtf |
| 20:35.04 | znf | got d/c'd at the end of a mythic+4 |
| 20:35.06 | znf | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 20:39.45 | mfgmfg | hmm, tidyplates is not updating the mob target marker until my cursor mouses over something different |
| 20:40.33 | mfgmfg | wonder if it's that addon's fault or something else |
| 20:41.10 | bshelden | That explains the odd 'lag' I've been seeing on targets. |
| 20:41.30 | mfgmfg | hmm yeah seems to be the addon's fault |
| 20:41.34 | mfgmfg | is danltiger here? |
| 20:45.23 | Simca | Torhal / Stanzilla / whoever: can you kick packager on https://wow.curseforge.com/addons/wowdb-profiler/ |
| 20:45.26 | Simca | it died yet again |
| 20:45.47 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/JZ1jTql.png |
| 20:45.48 | znf | :-/ |
| 20:46.16 | Stanzilla | Simca: queued |
| 20:46.44 | Simca | thanks |
| 20:47.01 | mfgmfg | znf, healer not pulling their weight in dps |
| 20:47.13 | mfgmfg | missed a mob eh? |
| 20:48.03 | nevcairiel | sucks to miss one mob eh =p |
| 20:48.09 | znf | I think we missed more like 0.5% |
| 20:48.30 | znf | last 3 mobs gave 4% |
| 20:48.31 | mfgmfg | would've been nice to see a hard value instead of a % but some mobs worth more than others |
| 20:48.36 | nevcairiel | we were at like 93% before the two scorpion packs before the boss, so maybe like 2% too much |
| 20:48.54 | nevcairiel | the scorps give like 5% |
| 20:49.25 | znf | they give 4.5 I think |
| 20:49.34 | nevcairiel | mfgmfg: flat counters like in draenor were a bit exploitable by killing more easy mobs and skipping more hard ones - varying percentages at least value harder mobs properly |
| 20:51.06 | nevcairiel | (or devalue the easy trash) |
| 20:55.15 | znf | Teemid sucks |
| 20:55.19 | znf | Officially |
| 20:55.32 | nevcairiel | teeming? |
| 20:55.44 | nevcairiel | we did valut of the wardens 4, teeming can be a bit annoying in there |
| 20:56.23 | nevcairiel | all of those are meant to suck =p |
| 20:58.45 | znf | teeming, yes |
| 20:58.57 | znf | I'm not sure if the extra-packs are giving % on the bar |
| 20:59.12 | nevcairiel | they dont |
| 20:59.16 | foxlit | mfgmfg: would've been nice to see a hard value instead of a % but some mobs worth more than others << just show the %-worth value in a mob tooltip. |
| 20:59.21 | nevcairiel | and its not extra packs, just more mobs in the packs |
| 21:11.44 | znf | someone earlier in the day mentioned something about Harpy sounds |
| 21:11.50 | znf | but liked some worgen files |
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| 21:20.40 | znf | who names these things? |
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| 21:30.37 | Primer | Probably a Romanian |
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| 22:00.49 | ccox_ | latest âIRSâ robocall scam has their speech synthesizer mispronouncing half the wordsâ¦. Itâs almost funny. |
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| 23:40.20 | znf | 2 things |
| 23:40.37 | znf | 1. they nerved PvP quests again, now they give out 150 honor down from 300 down from 500 on release days |
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| 23:40.58 | znf | 2. If your quest-reward is stuck at "Retrieving information", you won't get any reward |
| 23:42.28 | LexSfX | those "pvp" quests tend to not have pvp anyway, as everyone who seriously pvps is doing arena atm |
| 23:42.37 | LexSfX | at least on Tichondrius-US |
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| 23:47.26 | znf | yeah, but they put my ass at risk! |
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