| 00:05.15 | TheDanW | Ketho: linking WQs is still the same as live, it's on our list to fix soon(tm) |
| 00:06.29 | Ketho | TheDanW: cool :) |
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| 00:19.09 | znf | well now http://i.imgur.com/baCaGBi.png |
| 00:19.40 | znf | here's a question - why do some +AP items have a cast timer? |
| 00:19.43 | znf | and some are instant? |
| 00:21.48 | Stanzilla | random() |
| 00:22.07 | Stanzilla | guess: the bigger ones have a cast time to feel more significant |
| 00:24.26 | znf | doesnt' compute |
| 00:26.49 | Guill | Funkeh`: No changes have been made to that portion of the map, so probably not. |
| 00:36.21 | znf | ...thanks a lot for gear from Emissary quests. |
| 00:36.34 | znf | Those 820 items will be very useful to my overall 845 ilvl |
| 00:41.47 | Stanzilla | got a 845 today |
| 00:41.49 | Stanzilla | and a 810 |
| 00:42.57 | znf | does anyone know if there's a source of these icons http://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/forum_icon/KONFY3G21NRT1465340163602.png at a higher resolution? |
| 00:46.26 | Trela | They are flat vector art so they would be really simple to make larger. |
| 00:50.12 | znf | they're .PNGs |
| 00:50.24 | znf | I tried vectorizing them, I failed badly on the priest one |
| 00:51.42 | Stanzilla | someone already did that |
| 00:51.46 | Stanzilla | I think I even saw it on wowi |
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| 00:59.21 | znf | link! |
| 01:03.28 | fewyn | auction house y u so slow |
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| 01:12.16 | Primer | sigh...I'm really upset that I didn't research my artifact path before putting points in |
| 01:12.48 | Primer | But I tend to try things out first, as I feel that doing such research some times spoils the game |
| 01:17.02 | tz | ~framexml |
| 01:17.02 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
| 01:18.17 | tz | ok, don't try to do that while ptr is updating, crashes both wow AND bnet |
| 01:32.45 | Funkeh` | Guill, why is it the new map APIs like AddUnit don't support texture ids? |
| 01:33.42 | Guill | Funkeh`: See AddUnitFileID and AddUnitAtlas |
| 01:34.43 | Funkeh` | there are no examples of that, if it's the same args as add unit, why bother separating it? |
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| 01:36.42 | Funkeh` | also what are the last 3 args after rgb |
| 01:36.43 | Guill | Funkeh`: Don't know off-hand; I wasn't the person who wrote that code. I assume it was just cleaner to implement that way. It's also not like values are coming from dynamic sources like they do for many other systems. |
| 01:37.29 | Guill | Funkeh`: sublayer and showFacing. ShowFacing rotates the texture by *your* facing, not the unit's. |
| 01:38.06 | Funkeh` | r, g, b, 1, 7, true ? |
| 01:38.48 | Guill | What would the 7 be there? |
| 01:38.53 | Funkeh` | no clue |
| 01:38.57 | Funkeh` | that's the player unit |
| 01:40.56 | Guill | Funkeh`: My bad, it's r, g, b, a |
| 01:41.09 | Funkeh` | ahh ofc |
| 01:41.44 | Funkeh` | did you see my PM regarding that map ID? |
| 01:42.48 | znf | Small live patch? |
| 01:43.09 | Funkeh` | a few hours ago yeah |
| 01:43.49 | znf | I guess the mythic run took longer than I thought |
| 01:44.14 | Guill | Funkeh`: The map code is all super complicated, so I haven't had the time to dig in there yet |
| 01:45.06 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.27 | Guill | The latter |
| 01:46.41 | Thunder_Child | Thanks. |
| 01:46.57 | Funkeh` | Guill, the ID issue isn't related to the new code, it's basically a typo/oversight |
| 01:47.08 | Funkeh` | was hoping you could throw it at someone |
| 01:48.22 | Guill | Funkeh`: I'd have to investigate the problem a bit just to see who I would have to bounce it to to get it fixed. And it takes a while to investigate anything in the old map code. |
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| 01:49.55 | Funkeh` | Guill, why? it's literally just a wrong name that wasn't updated, despite being updated everywhere else in the UI |
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| 01:54.30 | Guill | Funkeh`: Because I would need to track down where that name is coming from, why it is what it is, what else it would change if we were to change it, and whether there is somewhere else we *want* to display the current name that pulls from the same data. |
| 01:55.22 | Funkeh` | for what's it's worth as far as I can tell that's what it was going to be called but they changed their mind and renamed it, that got left behind |
| 01:55.37 | Funkeh` | you can see another artifact of that in the summoning stone tooltip for that instance |
| 01:56.05 | Funkeh` | (it was named that early in beta) |
| 01:56.52 | Guill | It's very possible that you're right. But I would need to confirm that before asking someone to change that data (which would also mean re-localization and all that) |
| 02:01.51 | Funkeh` | thanks |
| 02:04.15 | Mr_Rabies | i've finally found it |
| 02:04.22 | Mr_Rabies | passage into the emerald dream |
| 02:04.28 | Mr_Rabies | it's greener than expected, even http://i.imgur.com/MUxfsNm.png |
| 02:05.25 | Trela | Looks like Emerald Dream when I was there about eight years ago. |
| 02:06.45 | synnove | that's green for sure, but not quite 'emerald' |
| 02:06.49 | synnove | i feel lied to |
| 02:09.05 | Funkeh` | Guill, so are you guys wanting feedback on the new map stuff to make changes? |
| 02:09.33 | nebula | give Funkeh` and inch ... |
| 02:09.37 | nebula | an* |
| 02:09.51 | Stanzilla | an inch is all he has |
| 02:09.54 | Stanzilla | badum tss |
| 02:10.04 | nebula | it's all about how you use it, Stanzilla |
| 02:10.15 | Stanzilla | yeah yeah |
| 02:10.16 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, you weren't complaining last night |
| 02:14.43 | znf | ...trying to Shadow Crash in water |
| 02:14.44 | znf | that went well |
| 02:15.00 | tz | sigh @ UnitPosition change |
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| 02:19.27 | tz | anybody got suggestions for detecting player distance to an EJ map encounter location? |
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| 02:22.24 | bshelden | Well, if we tell you, the'll get nerfed, as stopping that kind of thing was the entire point... |
| 02:22.29 | bshelden | they'll |
| 02:22.34 | tz | mmmmmm |
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| 03:22.37 | Stanzilla | foxlit: http://paste2.org/0ZtK48z3 on login |
| 03:27.27 | LexSfX | lf update for https://wow.curseforge.com/addons/color-picker-advanced/ ... i can't figure out why it's all green. it's such a nice addon normally |
| 03:31.52 | nebula | LexSfX: complete guess, but probably needs :SetTexture changed to :SetColorTexture in a bunch of spots |
| 03:32.04 | LexSfX | nebula: ooh, thanks. i'll check that out |
| 03:34.24 | LexSfX | nebula: yeah, i changed any "SetTexture" call that was clearly a RGBA set of args to "SetColorTexture" and now it works beautifully! :) |
| 03:34.26 | LexSfX | thanks so much! |
| 03:34.50 | nebula | nice |
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| 03:38.58 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 03:39.15 | Torhal | nice |
| 03:41.25 | LexSfX | anyone know the exact demon hunter color? |
| 03:41.31 | LexSfX | is it identical to the epic color? |
| 03:41.39 | nebula | RAID_CLASS_COLORS.DEMONHUNTER |
| 03:41.44 | LexSfX | oh, nice. thanks |
| 03:43.35 | LexSfX | looks like i've updated this for legion, and it works now :) |
| 03:43.51 | LexSfX | guess i'll post an unofficial update zip in the curse comments, since this project has no ticket tracker... |
| 03:44.23 | LexSfX | ticket tracker should be on by default |
| 03:47.27 | LexSfX | for the record, the demon hunter color is not the same as the epic color |
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| 03:50.22 | shirsig | Hey, I'm having issues with editboxes. Anyone know how I can get information about the horizontal scroll offset? I'm making a fontstring overlay which is shown instead of the actual editbox text to facilitate coloring while typing and it works except for this one issue. |
| 03:51.47 | LexSfX | shirsig: :GetCursorPosition and :SetCursorPosition |
| 03:53.26 | shirsig | LexSfX: how would I use that. The problem is not every character has the same width |
| 03:54.54 | LexSfX | i guess i don't understand the question |
| 03:55.15 | shirsig | well, if you type into an editbox, beyond the capacity of the box |
| 03:55.23 | shirsig | you get some sort of "scrolling effect" |
| 03:55.58 | shirsig | now since I'm showing my overlay fontstring instead of the actual editbox content I need to somehow adjust it to this scrolling offset |
| 03:56.25 | shirsig | like, let's say this is my editbox: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ] |
| 03:56.46 | shirsig | if i type 3 more xs i end up with this: [x ] |
| 03:58.01 | shirsig | eh no not exactly but similar |
| 03:58.11 | Neffi | I'm pretty sure you can facilitate coloring by embedding color escape codes |
| 03:58.12 | shirsig | like it jumps back a bit |
| 03:58.26 | Neffi | |cffxxxxxx and |r |
| 03:58.28 | shirsig | yes but that causes problems when editing |
| 03:58.45 | Neffi | see the source for Misspelled. it does this |
| 03:58.53 | shirsig | in fact i am using color escape codes, but in my overlay, not the actual editbox |
| 03:58.57 | Neffi | or For All Indents and Purposes |
| 03:59.00 | shirsig | ok, i'll check it out, thanks |
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| 05:08.10 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 05:22.43 | ranmas | Hello, all. I was wondering if I could get some help with a couple of items. Number 1 has to do with WoWinterface.com and reset password emails that dissappear. Number 2 is some help with lua for an addon |
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| 05:46.12 | ls- | ranmas: ask Cairenn about #1, as for #2, what kind of help do you need? |
| 05:46.44 | Cairenn | ranmas: what's your name on the site? |
| 05:46.51 | ranmas | ranmas |
| 05:47.28 | ranmas | for the lua, I have a button that I'm trying to hide when I get off a taxi, and show when I get on a taxi. Right now It just shows all the time |
| 05:48.36 | Cairenn | ranmas: sent you a DM on here (irc) |
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| 05:49.10 | ranmas | should I post my code to pastbin so you can have a look at it |
| 05:49.48 | ls- | ranmas: well, register it for "VEHICLE_UPDATE" event and show/hide it depending on returns of UnitOnTaxi("player") |
| 05:50.02 | ls- | that's how I do it.. |
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| 05:52.16 | ls- | I lied... |
| 05:52.23 | ranmas | lol maybe I was thinking too simply then. I was just registering UnitOnTaxi("player") for show and registering PLAYER_CONTROL_GAINED for hide |
| 05:52.38 | ls- | UPDATE_VEHICLE_ACTIONBAR |
| 05:52.57 | ls- | use this event :p |
| 05:55.06 | ranmas | thanks I'll give is a shot see how that goes |
| 05:55.59 | ls- | and ofc you can PLAYER_CONTROL_* events... |
| 05:56.04 | ranmas | actualy does that fire on a flight path.... |
| 05:56.19 | ls- | but I use same button for both vehicles and taxi :p |
| 05:59.17 | ranmas | ok, I wasn't sure. As I'm having trouble with Bartender and not getting the normal leave flight path button |
| 06:00.28 | ls- | UPDATE_VEHICLE_ACTIONBAR fires, although there's a slight delay, when you land |
| 06:00.47 | ls- | UPDATE_BONUS_ACTIONBAR fires a bit sooner |
| 06:00.52 | nebula | ranmas: enable the vehicle bar |
| 06:03.08 | ranmas | I have the vehicle bar enabled. |
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| 06:22.17 | ccox | Great, todayâs minipatch broke one of the monk campaign quests (fails to track crackling jade lightning usage) |
| 06:23.27 | ccox | ranmas: password reset emails sometimes disappear for comcast email addresses. For that, you can thank comast and non-transparent antispam software that doesnât work correctly. |
| 06:24.13 | ranmas | I'm useing a msn.com email Cairenn got me fixed up however |
| 06:24.17 | ccox | I suspect that some other hosts might use the same mal^h^h^hspam filtering software., and have the aem problem. |
| 06:24.20 | ccox | good. |
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| 06:50.27 | Simca | @Torhal: i'm going to update archy's constants for legion and push that, if you're cool with that |
| 06:50.39 | Torhal | Simca: ? |
| 06:50.48 | Simca | you maintain that one, right? |
| 06:51.00 | Torhal | Yes, I'm saying I don't know what you mean. :) |
| 06:51.18 | Torhal | I also just pushed a new release with some fixes. |
| 06:51.31 | Simca | oh. at least in the version i have, it doesn't know what race any of the digsites are for or about the projects, and errors when it sees either |
| 06:52.15 | Torhal | I haven't touched projects yet, but I just set all of Azsuna to Highborne and fixed some code to allow the progression to continue for projects |
| 06:52.38 | Torhal | Some of the digsites are completely missing data - blobIDs and mapIDs |
| 06:53.00 | Torhal | Doesn't help that Legion digsites are locked to a particular race for a week. |
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| 06:54.06 | Torhal | So anyway, if you're going to do stuff, please pull first - I did some code reformatting while I was at it. |
| 06:55.48 | Simca | kk |
| 06:56.15 | Torhal | I've just been busy working 7 days a week and trying to write the new NPCScan; I've let everything else languish :/ |
| 06:56.26 | Simca | no worries |
| 06:56.51 | Simca | pulling data embedded in db2s into a usable format is literally my speciality and i noticed archy was missing things that db2s had |
| 06:56.55 | Simca | so i thought i would help |
| 06:57.11 | Torhal | That would be great. |
| 06:57.24 | Torhal | Especially the blobIDs for the dig sites that need them :D |
| 06:57.52 | Simca | yeah at the very least i can get blobIDs/mapIDs for the digsites that need them |
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| 06:58.35 | Simca | possibly can get UI coords as well. they're in one of four different db2s i think. or maybe they're an average of all of the points defining the blob |
| 06:59.05 | Torhal | I just use the landmark coords as keys in the lookup table |
| 06:59.17 | Torhal | continentID:xCoord:yCoord |
| 06:59.27 | Simca | makes sense |
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| 07:10.44 | pompy | "retrieving item information" on random gear that im wearing. |
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| 07:19.32 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749097454?page=3#post-41 |
| 07:19.34 | bluspacecow | oh dear |
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| 07:55.56 | LexSfX | how do i add a tooltip to a checkbutton widget? i want to be able to just CheckButton:SetTooltip("info and stuff") |
| 07:56.19 | Torhal | LexSfX: OnEnter script and such. |
| 07:56.35 | Torhal | And of course hide the tooltip in OnLeave |
| 07:57.49 | LexSfX | Torhal: speaking of tooltips, the ones in _NPCScan.Overlay are not very good :P |
| 07:58.01 | LexSfX | they stay up when not hovering over the relevant button |
| 07:58.12 | LexSfX | thank you btw :) |
| 07:58.33 | LexSfX | i was thinking of that, but i still am not sure how to make it use the correct tooltip location etc. |
| 07:59.16 | ls- | GameTooltip:SetOwner(...) |
| 07:59.58 | ls- | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/GameTooltip/SetOwner |
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| 08:01.24 | LexSfX | ls-: i don't want to move the tooltip from where the user has it positioned, just set its text |
| 08:01.38 | ls- | ah, k... |
| 08:01.56 | LexSfX | i guess it's CheckButton:SetScript("OnEnter", GameTooltip:SetText("info and stuff")) |
| 08:02.07 | LexSfX | and OnLeave something else... |
| 08:02.20 | ls- | you may need to add GameTooltip:Show() |
| 08:02.29 | nebula | CheckButton:SetScript("OnLeave", GameTooltip_Hide) |
| 08:02.38 | LexSfX | ah, right |
| 08:02.40 | LexSfX | thanks |
| 08:03.29 | ls- | daaaaamn.... |
| 08:03.38 | ls- | my ISP blocked b.net IPs :D ahahaha |
| 08:03.43 | Torhal | LexSfX: _NPCScan.Overlay is a bigger piece of shit than _NPCScan was - it's next to be thrown away and replaced. |
| 08:03.45 | nebula | awkward |
| 08:04.01 | LexSfX | Torhal: nice! i still use it anyway |
| 08:04.07 | Torhal | :D |
| 08:04.36 | ls- | Torhal: btw, people are blaming my addon for your new toasts T_T |
| 08:04.50 | Torhal | ls-: Bwah! |
| 08:04.55 | nevcairiel | lets toast to that! |
| 08:05.34 | nebula | YEAH TOAST |
| 08:06.14 | ls- | I was calmly levelling my DK, when people starting pming me "duuuude, why tf did you add npc toasts?" |
| 08:07.33 | LexSfX | takes a bite of toast. |
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| 08:12.58 | ls- | damn, I think I have too many geckos in my apartment rn :( |
| 08:13.00 | karl_w_w | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsWD9q7VUAAopJn.jpg |
| 08:13.08 | ls- | might need to buy anti-gecko spray... |
| 08:19.54 | Phixion | finds his anti Fisker spray |
| 08:26.30 | VIad | bluspacecow: we have to ask them to add us to the list |
| 08:28.19 | nevcairiel | foxlit: showing diffs of files on your framexml page seems broken |
| 08:28.28 | nevcairiel | ie. https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/22595/ActionBarFrame.xml/diff is 404 |
| 08:34.33 | nebula | didn't notice they added "SecureTransferUI" no more sendmail/trade shenanigans, eh |
| 08:35.10 | nevcairiel | yeah they talked about securing trading and sending |
| 08:35.36 | nevcairiel | didnt really look up yet how much impact that has |
| 08:35.48 | VIad | I guess everything requires HW events? :p |
| 08:35.56 | VIad | or is just protected apis |
| 08:35.57 | nevcairiel | hw events are easy |
| 08:36.24 | nevcairiel | you can just take over the movement keys, people might wonder why they cant move but by the time that happens stuff is already send away |
| 08:36.27 | nebula | three dialogs for trade, send money to stranger and send items to stranger that are encapsulated in the secure env |
| 08:37.15 | nebula | so i imagine hijacking clicks won't work |
| 08:37.31 | nevcairiel | the new thing should hopefully be properly secure |
| 08:39.45 | VIad | can you still LOD with the store UI on login? :p |
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| 09:01.51 | foxlit | nevcairiel: it's confused by all the numbers; should be better now |
| 09:02.30 | nevcairiel | works again, thanks |
| 09:25.27 | LexSfX | second line added with GameTooltip:AddLine is smaller than the first... how weird |
| 09:25.54 | ls- | first line is title/header |
| 09:25.59 | ls- | others are normal lines |
| 09:27.36 | LexSfX | i want all lines to have the same size text, as this is simply an information tooltip on a checkbutton |
| 09:27.48 | LexSfX | not sure the best way to do that |
| 09:28.15 | LexSfX | first line is a description and second line is a warning, both equally important to read |
| 09:32.49 | Semlar | create your own tooltip and add your own font strings to it |
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| 09:33.47 | Semlar | rather than inherit from GameTooltipTemplate |
| 09:34.54 | ls- | well, he can inherit it, if he wants, he can change text height later :p |
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| 09:35.35 | ls- | from it* |
| 09:41.13 | foxlit | hm, interesting. "Look out!" but no Dro. |
| 09:41.37 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 09:41.53 | nevcairiel | look out is supposed to be a warning |
| 09:41.59 | nevcairiel | before he spawns |
| 09:42.15 | nevcairiel | which just means you got close to where he is, and if you move further you might find him |
| 09:42.17 | foxlit | I thought it was supposed to immediately proceed him bashing your face in. |
| 09:42.24 | Semlar | there's a warning before he spawns? |
| 09:42.34 | nevcairiel | if you move carefully yes |
| 09:42.34 | Semlar | he has literally jumped me out of nowhere every time i've done the scenario |
| 09:42.36 | bluspacecow | my battle.net desktop app install didn't like not being on my boot drive for some reason. While on my external it wasn't updating itself for some reason |
| 09:42.44 | nevcairiel | if you just rush through you will likely hit his spawn and the warnign at the same time |
| 09:42.46 | foxlit | a he-spawned-you-should-switch-targets warning, if you like. |
| 09:43.00 | bluspacecow | you should bring him a sammich |
| 09:43.00 | nevcairiel | i've gotten the warning before his spawn the last 2 runs or so |
| 09:43.04 | foxlit | regardless, there's nothing alive within like 30 yards of me. |
| 09:43.06 | bluspacecow | bitches love when you bring them sammiches |
| 09:43.11 | nevcairiel | incidentally he is always in the center spider room now |
| 09:43.19 | ls- | bro dro is hiding |
| 09:43.20 | nevcairiel | for me, anyway |
| 09:44.02 | ls- | as a fire mage I hate him... |
| 09:44.13 | ls- | hits for 25% of my hp or so.. |
| 09:44.48 | nevcairiel | just dragon breath him and see him die in the time he is useless :d |
| 09:45.10 | nevcairiel | he dies so fast |
| 09:45.35 | bluspacecow | light him on fire alot |
| 09:46.08 | ls- | welp, he has quite a lot of hp T_T |
| 09:46.41 | bluspacecow | buy extra kerosene then |
| 09:46.41 | nevcairiel | your guys are supposed to kill him, not you |
| 09:46.58 | Semlar | pfft |
| 09:47.09 | ls- | they're slow even in berserk mode T_T |
| 09:47.23 | ls- | and he usually kill like 5 of them... |
| 09:48.07 | Shockah|Work | "While on my external it wasn't updating itself for some reason" - yeah i saw such a post months ago |
| 09:48.41 | LexSfX | GameTooltip:SetWidth doesn't work |
| 09:48.46 | Shockah|Work | i also had it happen on my INTERNAL HDD |
| 09:48.47 | LexSfX | very confusing :/ |
| 09:48.58 | Shockah|Work | but that was a special case... stupid one though |
| 09:49.00 | nevcairiel | dont mess with the gametooltip, or it'll mess with you |
| 09:49.11 | Shockah|Work | because that means Battle.net doesn't support exFAT |
| 09:52.17 | ls- | damn, there's a dude on my realm with quite entertaining name :p |
| 09:52.28 | ls- | 16:50:54 [4. LookingForGroup] [Squirtispee]: sup yall, its me, its your boi, squirtispee |
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| 09:54.56 | LexSfX | oh, probably have to GameTooltip:SetMinimumWidth |
| 09:56.25 | Semlar | here nevcairiel https://youtu.be/TtFhoKmx3vQ |
| 09:57.15 | nevcairiel | you're doing it wrong |
| 09:57.19 | Semlar | oh okay |
| 09:57.25 | LexSfX | that looks interesting |
| 09:57.32 | nevcairiel | not sure what your video is supposed to show evne |
| 09:57.42 | Semlar | there's no warning when he spawns |
| 09:57.49 | Semlar | he just spawns |
| 09:58.06 | nevcairiel | i consistently get a look out warning |
| 09:58.08 | nevcairiel | so shrug |
| 09:58.13 | nevcairiel | at least the last 2 or 3 runs |
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| 09:58.54 | nebula | that's really far back, i didn't realize he walked all the way up there |
| 09:59.09 | LexSfX | Semlar: that looks quite useful in pvp as a resto shaman for quickly seeing where my focus is for wind shear |
| 09:59.19 | LexSfX | among all the chaos of pvp |
| 09:59.27 | Semlar | my nameplates? |
| 09:59.28 | LexSfX | could it do that? |
| 09:59.33 | LexSfX | your crosshair thingy |
| 09:59.37 | VIad | nevcairiel: I did the training with 1300 mana because I only need score, but seems I can go even lower |
| 09:59.46 | LexSfX | which would be nice to have separate from the rest of the nameplate stuff |
| 09:59.54 | LexSfX | just that part would be cool alone |
| 10:00.03 | nevcairiel | getting mana isnt exactly hard, but i guess there is no reason to go with 2000 all the time |
| 10:00.13 | nebula | could probably easily get 375 with just 400 mana, it would just take longer |
| 10:00.23 | VIad | nevcairiel: they nerfed the vineyards farm |
| 10:00.43 | nebula | how so? i did it today and it was just fine |
| 10:00.46 | VIad | since I am kind of eh, why waste so much, as tank I do most of the tank work any interrupts and such anyway, and you rescue a lot of guys on the way down |
| 10:00.56 | Semlar | i also did it earlier and it wasn't any slower than it always is |
| 10:00.57 | VIad | my realm has more people than yours maybe :p |
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| 10:01.11 | VIad | the vines respawned quite fast a week ago |
| 10:01.18 | VIad | today its very slow respawns on the wine objects |
| 10:01.57 | mfgmfg | VIad, seems related to how fast things are getting farmed |
| 10:02.25 | Semlar | LexSfX: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22883-Crosshairs.html |
| 10:03.13 | Shockah|Work | Semlar, does that work separately to nameplates? |
| 10:03.18 | Shockah|Work | as in, can i have both |
| 10:03.25 | Shockah|Work | crosshairs and another nameplate addon |
| 10:03.25 | Semlar | yes |
| 10:03.27 | Shockah|Work | kk |
| 10:04.03 | Semlar | it's for your target though, if you want something for your focus it would have to be rewritten |
| 10:04.36 | Shockah|Work | i'm fine with it, not sure about LexSfX |
| 10:04.46 | LexSfX | Semlar: ooh, awesome! didn't know about that. why isn't it here? |
| 10:04.47 | LexSfX | https://wow.curseforge.com/profiles/Semlar/addons/ |
| 10:04.59 | LexSfX | i like a lot of your addons, so i looked there for them |
| 10:05.07 | LexSfX | i didn't know you had wowinterface-exclusive ones |
| 10:05.17 | Semlar | i have different addons uploaded to different places |
| 10:05.23 | LexSfX | did not know that |
| 10:05.40 | nebula | #justsemlarthings |
| 10:06.57 | VIad | nevcairiel: next time I'll try the option below 1300, like 900? |
| 10:07.07 | Torhal | nevcairiel: I prefer "Semlar. You can't explain that." |
| 10:07.16 | Torhal | Goddamn it I need to stop doing that |
| 10:07.49 | nebula | Semlar. The other white meat. |
| 10:08.02 | Semlar | don't eat me |
| 10:08.07 | Torhal | Semlar: The Avocado of Doom |
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| 10:17.23 | ls- | eating shrooms is good :p |
| 10:17.34 | ls- | nothing wrong w/ eating Semlar then... |
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| 10:21.44 | foxlit | feels like masquerade can just break randomly now |
| 10:23.16 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji9qSuQapFY |
| 10:23.43 | VIad | I suspect some hidden combat bunny breaks it. I had the issue at some point, then it disappeared again. |
| 10:23.44 | Shockah|Work | i'm randomly getting in combat so many times while in masquerade i got used to reapplying it every minute |
| 10:23.56 | Semlar | it breaks when you enter combat and you just randomly enter combat for some reason |
| 10:24.08 | VIad | probably some quest related hidden aura? |
| 10:24.19 | nebula | invisible moths |
| 10:24.30 | Semlar | i also think it's invisible moths |
| 10:24.57 | ls- | can anyone recommend good irc client for ios? :p |
| 10:25.07 | Shockah|Work | none |
| 10:25.15 | nebula | yea, everything is garbage |
| 10:25.28 | Shockah|Work | if only an app could survive more than 10 minutes in background |
| 10:25.30 | Shockah|Work | but noooo |
| 10:25.55 | Shockah|Work | i used Palaver, but didn't even launch it in months |
| 10:26.05 | Shockah|Work | last time i used it... i think it even was a year ago |
| 10:26.28 | ls- | k :p |
| 10:26.45 | nebula | term -> irssi+quassel for me if i really want to chat with you chumps |
| 10:26.46 | ls- | for macos then? :p |
| 10:27.17 | Shockah|Work | couldn't find any good ones for OSX either |
| 10:27.24 | Shockah|Work | using XChat-Azure, but... eh |
| 10:27.33 | Shockah|Work | could be better |
| 10:27.46 | Shockah|Work | okay, it's *fine* |
| 10:27.55 | nebula | textual is good |
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| 10:28.48 | ls- | ty <3 |
| 10:30.05 | ls- | damn, win10 just died while trying to update itself T_T have to reinstall it now :p |
| 10:35.22 | LexSfX | ls-: afaict, there isn't one. i use Mango Lite when i have to though |
| 10:35.29 | LexSfX | regarding ios irc client |
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| 10:35.44 | LexSfX | it's not awful |
| 10:37.23 | ls- | ty |
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| 10:46.55 | Simca | Torhal, this is a super annoying case i'm not sure how to handle |
| 10:47.11 | Simca | the project 'Orb of Sciallax |
| 10:47.11 | Simca | ' translates into 6 itemIDs |
| 10:47.29 | Simca | http://beta.wowdb.com/quests/41182-uncovering-the-orb-of-sciallax |
| 10:47.48 | Torhal | Not found. |
| 10:48.33 | Simca | ...odd. did it redirect you away from the beta site when you clicked my link to the beta site? |
| 10:48.53 | ls- | it did |
| 10:49.09 | Torhal | And unless they have different translations in different languages, picking one should be fine IIRC - I believe I just use the item for the project name because it's identical in most cases. There are a few, like Mummified Monkey Paw which is Crawling Claw. |
| 10:49.19 | Simca | gotcha |
| 10:49.35 | Simca | yeah there's 6 different relics to pick from as the quest reward |
| 10:50.56 | Torhal | I think I actually check against the spellID and itemID and if that fails I fall back to a translation (which I need to get serious with - I'm missing a few entries) |
| 10:51.49 | Simca | there's another one that doesn't match but it is like the crawling claw one - project is 'Infernal Device', item is 'Wyrmy Tunkins' (a pet) |
| 10:51.54 | Torhal | Simca: Oh, beta is apparently not an option at all anymore. |
| 10:52.08 | Simca | yeah |
| 10:53.10 | Simca | i remember now, i had one of the devs add a way to block the forced redirect off of 'closed' subsites if you had high enough permissions for the site |
| 10:53.20 | Torhal | Heh |
| 10:53.57 | Torhal | Now if only the erroneous zone data would be cleaned and the "Show Hidden" filter was fixed... |
| 10:55.35 | Simca | 2018, the year of the show hidden fix |
| 10:56.17 | Simca | we should probably wipe old data soon though, now that beta is over |
| 10:57.11 | Torhal | There is somehow data showing NPCs in the Stormwind Stockades that have been gone since Cataclysm. |
| 10:57.48 | Simca | i want to blame private servers for that |
| 10:58.10 | Simca | although how they even managed to run this addon on a private server is a little bit amazing |
| 10:58.20 | Torhal | Using the Curse updater? o.O |
| 10:58.25 | Torhal | heh, yeah. |
| 11:00.02 | bluspacecow | hacked wow-64.exe ? |
| 11:04.25 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:04.51 | VIad | some proc? |
| 11:05.07 | Semlar | neither one of his trinkets had procs |
| 11:05.24 | Semlar | it didn't appear to show up in the combat log as anything |
| 11:05.31 | Semlar | i think it might just be visual |
| 11:05.45 | VIad | looks weird to me |
| 11:05.52 | VIad | I know mages have something similar |
| 11:07.31 | bluspacecow | fire mages have cinderstorm that looks like that. only red flames |
| 11:09.13 | ls- | damn, did they remove chests from junkie training? T_T |
| 11:09.30 | ls- | haven't seen any so far... and I'm at elfbreaker rn T_T |
| 11:09.55 | nevcairiel | medium and large chests are one-time only, if you have them, thats it |
| 11:11.00 | ls- | ah.... k then... |
| 11:11.38 | ls- | didn't know that T_T I hoped to make all my junkies into mage-junkies :D |
| 11:11.56 | VIad | I am at that stage where I can probably go in with a small withered team and just enrage rek everything for 400 rep and quit |
| 11:12.00 | nevcairiel | nope, only 6 special hats |
| 11:17.17 | Semlar | i can't figure out what this effect was from |
| 11:17.39 | foxlit | if they die, could another one not pick up the hat? |
| 11:17.59 | Semlar | hat is glued to their head |
| 11:28.55 | Semlar | alright, apparently it's from a food buff |
| 11:29.51 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/item=133564/spiced-rib-roast |
| 11:30.19 | Simca | k, updated archy's projects, on to digsites |
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| 11:57.58 | Torhal | Yay! |
| 11:58.41 | Fisker | Torhal is nice |
| 12:00.39 | Torhal | Simca: You missed some commas at the ends of the new tables. Fixed. :D |
| 12:01.04 | Simca | oops |
| 12:02.47 | Simca | trying a relatively complex amalgamation of stuff to get full digsite data filled out (minus race) for legion, including UI coords (the hard part) |
| 12:02.51 | Simca | https://db.tt/sBeROYgi |
| 12:03.55 | Torhal | Yeowch |
| 12:04.43 | VIad | Simca: generate a heighmap of the world please |
| 12:04.49 | VIad | heightmap* |
| 12:05.09 | Simca | Alram: your adoring fans want heightmaps, chop chop |
| 12:06.53 | bluspacecow | I read that as chomp chomp |
| 12:07.12 | bluspacecow | #Ineedfoods |
| 12:12.57 | Simca | pretty please don't crash, excel |
| 12:13.03 | Simca | i need you not to crash. |
| 12:15.45 | Torhal | :O |
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| 12:25.06 | VIad | if you change windows locale number formatting for list separator to # your excel formula separator is changed as well. but if you set it to like "fu" then it bugs and excel formulas wont work |
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| 12:35.14 | Torhal | That's because "fu" means Formulas Useless, VIad. |
| 12:35.16 | Torhal | >.> |
| 12:36.21 | Alram | go away Simca |
| 12:36.25 | Alram | heightmaps are the worst |
| 12:36.36 | Torhal | inverts Alram's z axis. |
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| 12:54.42 | Simca | okay maybe i will come back to UI coords another day, lol |
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| 13:49.09 | znf | Ressy, http://i.imgur.com/c38Hxnc.png |
| 13:51.05 | VIad | znf: sounds like legion hates you |
| 13:51.42 | VIad | all the hate seething from you on irc, and now the game itself starts to crash on you |
| 13:53.43 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 13:54.10 | bluspacecow | think i've seen that in conjuction with the new garbage collection feature |
| 13:54.30 | Shockah|Work | new garbage collection feature? |
| 13:54.55 | znf | Stanzilla said something about canimogit |
| 13:55.38 | bluspacecow | let me run a log goblin , do a search and get back to you |
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| 13:58.47 | Ressy | IF it's CanIMogit, its with another addon. |
| 13:58.54 | Ressy | Because I run that addon, and not experiencing that. |
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| 14:02.05 | bluspacecow | just tracked down the AgentNGDP log from the bugged garbage collection feature I had on mine |
| 14:02.13 | bluspacecow | didn't show anything for evicting records |
| 14:02.24 | bluspacecow | full error report pastebinned would help here |
| 14:11.12 | Simca | i've seen that a lot |
| 14:11.26 | Simca | it's a common cache failure with their new item caching system |
| 14:11.50 | Simca | I'm hoping they're going to fix it for 7.1 so it is less awful, both in terms of crashing and in terms of the API interactions |
| 14:12.17 | Simca | whoever gets that should just delete their Cache folder, it will fix the issue for a while |
| 14:12.40 | Simca | it also tends to fix itself as of the latest builds on client restart |
| 14:19.48 | znf | yeah, restarting just fixes it |
| 14:20.47 | Simca | TheDanW: iterating over all item tooltips crashes the client around ID 130k |
| 14:21.09 | Simca | there is a bad tooltip somewhere around there that the client cannot parse, blames Tooltip.cpp |
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| 14:50.35 | znf | whoever voiced the harpies... |
| 14:50.39 | znf | congrats, most hated mob in legion |
| 14:50.46 | znf | (for those who play with sounds on) |
| 14:54.55 | xmyno | male nightelf death sound in black rook hold is a good contender too *shrug* |
| 14:55.02 | Andols2 | Harpies have always been hated :p |
| 14:55.08 | modernist | oh god those harpies |
| 14:58.09 | nevcairiel | thats the normal male nelf death sound, although we've probably not killed many before |
| 14:58.32 | nevcairiel | not special to black rook hold :d |
| 14:58.40 | nevcairiel | but harpies do scream quite a bit, that is true |
| 15:04.48 | pompy | new ringtone |
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| 15:11.30 | znf | I wish we could mute sound files individually, again |
| 15:14.58 | modernist | my ringtone is SOMETHINGS NOT QUITE RIGHT... |
| 15:16.14 | modernist | i actually had to get rid of milhouse manastorm as my bodyguard because his VO was so repetitive and annoying too |
| 15:16.59 | modernist | that and getting stuck on a doodad or bit of clipping tree trunk every 5 minutes are really my only complaint with legion |
| 15:17.31 | Thunder_Child | L2Drive. |
| 15:18.01 | modernist | :[ |
| 15:18.01 | znf | I once tried to play with Zabra Hexx |
| 15:18.08 | znf | as a bodyguard |
| 15:18.09 | znf | never again |
| 15:18.19 | nevcairiel | i cant deal with any permanent bodyguards |
| 15:18.47 | znf | They need to tone-down the bodyguard talk |
| 15:18.48 | nevcairiel | they aggro random things, they have annoying VOs, they stand way too close to you and block th ings like herbs |
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| 15:19.14 | znf | mine doesn't seem to aggro random shit though |
| 15:19.20 | modernist | milhouse does |
| 15:19.22 | modernist | oh boy does he |
| 15:19.47 | modernist | also he has a really annoying giant night elf cat mount for some reason |
| 15:19.55 | nevcairiel | i'm a night elf, part of my minute to minute play is to keep shadowmeld on cooldown all the time, but the damn followers keep getting stuck in combat then too =p |
| 15:21.37 | Thunder_Child | Now you guys sound like foxlit and his love for Broll. |
| 15:21.48 | nevcairiel | but i have an awesome ability-type follower anyway that i can use to insta-kill an entire group of mobs |
| 15:21.51 | nevcairiel | so i dont miss out |
| 15:21.52 | nevcairiel | :D |
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| 15:23.36 | nevcairiel | it certainly helps that i dont need a follower to tank for me or something like that |
| 15:23.41 | nevcairiel | being a tank myself |
| 15:24.24 | nevcairiel | foxlit is probably a laser chicken so having a tank with you can be helpful |
| 15:24.46 | modernist | this whole having cake and eating it too for solo tank play is very irritating |
| 15:25.26 | nevcairiel | tanks have always been insane at low gear levels, but our damage typically doesnt scale that well into later tiers, so dpsers catch up through sheer brute force |
| 15:31.19 | foxlit | broll is engineered for maximum infuriation; if you actually need him to tank, chances are he'll take off through the terrain, blow your cover, and return with 17 adds, all while having no actual AoE abilities. |
| 15:32.29 | foxlit | (okay, I'm lying: he won't actually return - he'll die to the 17 mobs he pulled, transfer all threat to you, and then respawn cheerfully next to you as that deathball is making its way over) |
| 15:32.31 | Constie | The holy blob bodyguard for Priests occasionally says "I fight for the Light" when starting combat, which is great because it always makes me think of the Beastie Boys song. |
| 15:33.13 | Constie | He also seems very relaxed about pulling, which is nice. Hasn't gotten me killed yet. |
| 15:34.23 | Constie | I kind of miss the Warlock follower from WoD who would occasionally decide she needed to Shadow Bolt Volley another group or two of mobs during combat. |
| 15:35.41 | Semlar | we need a hunter follower that casts barrage |
| 15:35.55 | nevcairiel | isnt that the job of the hunter himself |
| 15:36.02 | foxlit | carefully, you might get your wish and then be summarily fired. |
| 15:36.25 | foxlit | between pets and barraging every pack in the next room, what else do you bring to a party? |
| 15:37.00 | modernist | transferring all that threat to the healer with feign death, in my experience |
| 15:37.06 | Semlar | what, that's not enough? |
| 15:37.07 | nevcairiel | fire mages can barrage pull now |
| 15:37.12 | nevcairiel | and they produce food |
| 15:37.16 | nevcairiel | so what do we need hunters for |
| 15:37.17 | foxlit | mm, food. |
| 15:37.36 | znf | CAN YOU FUCKING REDUCE THE FUCKINg AGGRO RANGE IN THE NOPE ZONE |
| 15:37.38 | znf | god fucking damn it |
| 15:37.38 | Torhal | nevcairiel: The same thing they've always been useful for: Being made fun of. |
| 15:37.43 | foxlit | I'm gradually achieving my goal of running instances powered entirely by the free apples you get in Dalaran. |
| 15:37.43 | modernist | yeah being a fire mage is depressing for cleave currently. we're cc destroyers |
| 15:37.52 | nevcairiel | znf: just group up and kill all the things |
| 15:37.53 | nevcairiel | much fun |
| 15:38.05 | znf | WE ARE GROUPED UP |
| 15:38.06 | Semlar | i can't attack without cleaving |
| 15:38.09 | Cairenn | glares at Torhal |
| 15:38.10 | znf | we all died |
| 15:38.14 | nevcairiel | foxlit: heh i should respec more when i'm in dalaran for the apples |
| 15:38.21 | nevcairiel | znf: get a proper tank =p |
| 15:38.23 | Constie | Apples? |
| 15:38.42 | Constie | Have you tried getting good, znf? |
| 15:38.42 | znf | I just joined a random group[ |
| 15:38.43 | znf | no tank |
| 15:38.48 | nevcairiel | applebough or whats his name, treant fruit vendor, throws you a free apple when you pass him with g'hanir, the resto druid weapon |
| 15:38.59 | modernist | oh man |
| 15:39.13 | modernist | and i just get some blood elf blacksmith touching up my sword |
| 15:39.13 | Torhal | Turn off aggro on your pet, Cairenn. This is srs bzns. |
| 15:39.21 | Cairenn | >< |
| 15:39.35 | Semlar | it's really annoying when tanks try to be sneaky and avoid pulling a couple extra mobs so i have to just stand there autoattacking while i pool enough focus to aimed shot |
| 15:40.03 | Constie | I don't think Priests get anything at all. We get a like 10-second run speed boost going into or out of our class hall, I guess. |
| 15:40.21 | Constie | But we do get to play the best class, so at least there's that. |
| 15:40.54 | foxlit | The "Find whoever designed the Eye and make them run it 20 times over" Foundation is always open to new members. |
| 15:41.13 | nevcairiel | i actually like the eye |
| 15:42.09 | Semlar | i think instead of using my disguise in the vineyard i'm just going to kill everyone |
| 15:42.27 | Constie | Oh, do other classes have target dummies? I played a little bit on my Hunter and couldn't find any in that class hall. |
| 15:42.41 | Semlar | we have literal targets outside the lodge |
| 15:43.05 | Semlar | they're on the flightmaster side of the building |
| 15:43.34 | Constie | Maybe I missed them because they don't look like people and I need to be tricked. |
| 15:43.44 | Semlar | they look like bullseyes |
| 15:44.09 | foxlit | nevcairiel: there's too much awkwardly optional trash, people always go the wrong way around, and the wind is a pain. |
| 15:45.06 | nevcairiel | whats the wrong way around |
| 15:45.10 | nevcairiel | i go naga side |
| 15:45.19 | foxlit | giant last is the wrong way around |
| 15:45.22 | Constie | I learned the other day that you don't get the wind until you fight the naga lady boss, so you might want to do the snake first. |
| 15:45.26 | nevcairiel | why |
| 15:45.30 | nevcairiel | i dont think its any better |
| 15:45.46 | znf | snake guy is annoying when he pushes you with the heads |
| 15:45.46 | Torhal | Cairenn: I was always under the impression that WoW Hunters were the popularity equivalent of EQ's Rangers. |
| 15:46.03 | znf | if I stay around the snake, I can reach both heads and the boss |
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| 15:46.09 | znf | if the wind pushes me, I don't :D |
| 15:46.17 | nevcairiel | going giant last is maybe one pack of murlocs and the duo giants right in front of the entrace to giant guy, its not like you have to kill much trash |
| 15:46.38 | foxlit | There's a non-zero chance of dying to the giant, and the run back goes through the entire instance. |
| 15:46.59 | nevcairiel | i dont plan to fail :) |
| 15:47.08 | Semlar | then you fail to plan! |
| 15:47.12 | Constie | I think the journal says you should try to stay downwind of the snake to make the poison spit easier to avoid, but keeping track of where the wind is blowing and where the boss is and moving around is much more trouble than just moving as soon as it starts casting. |
| 15:47.25 | Semlar | you didn't account for the hunter in the group |
| 15:47.33 | nevcairiel | i dont group with hunters |
| 15:47.41 | nevcairiel | but i did learn to kill all seagulls |
| 15:47.49 | Semlar | :( |
| 15:47.52 | nevcairiel | f'ing annoying birds |
| 15:48.45 | Constie | Last time apparently a seagull got hit during the giant fight, and it stunned the tank and made the boss attack and immediately kill the melee DPS. |
| 15:49.01 | nevcairiel | thats the fun things those birds do |
| 15:49.09 | Semlar | that's how i get to the top of the meters |
| 15:49.14 | nevcairiel | usually happens on snake to me, until i started hunting them down |
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| 15:50.21 | Constie | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=219761/follower-lightspawn |
| 15:51.41 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=219578/that-ones-mine |
| 15:52.29 | Torhal | Simca: Danke. |
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| 15:55.54 | foxlit | It's kind of funny that in this iteration of Suramar, Observant Inquisitors can't see through Masquerade, while random felguards do. |
| 15:56.16 | nevcairiel | just because you call yourself observant doesnt make it so |
| 15:56.39 | Constie | They're observant about different things. |
| 15:56.41 | foxlit | I think they were actual detectors at some point. |
| 15:57.51 | Constie | A kind of similar thing I've noticed is that in the new Violet Hold dungeon the alert says a Portal Guardian appears when the mob is a Portal Keeper and vice versa. |
| 16:07.34 | karl_w_w | are there any games like hitman, but which are good? |
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| 16:11.16 | max41479 | Hi, 7.1 now live on PTR. Is anyone knows if is there a function to retrieve actual itemlevel based on itemlink? |
| 16:14.41 | max41479 | Because someone said that in 7.1 should appear such a function. |
| 16:15.18 | Semlar | well the function was GetDetailedItemInfo or something |
| 16:15.35 | Semlar | why don't you go on the PTR and check? |
| 16:16.32 | max41479 | I'm on PTR, but idk function name to check :( |
| 16:18.16 | Semlar | GetDetailedItemLevelInfo? |
| 16:20.01 | max41479 | GetDetailedItemLevelInfo returns same ilvl as GetItemInfo |
| 16:25.24 | mckenziemc | retails Semlar. |
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| 16:28.53 | TheDanW | max41479: it returns three values |
| 16:29.14 | TheDanW | Simca: do you have the crash message? |
| 16:30.27 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: http://imgur.com/lMcrZKw |
| 16:31.18 | TheDanW | Stanzilla: how did you do that? |
| 16:31.34 | max41479 | Yes, and in my case first = base ilvl, second = 0, third = base ilvl. As argument i use itemlink: "\124cff1eff00\124Hitem:121137::::::::110:253:512::2:1812:1760:110:::\124h[Stormwing Band of the Fireflash]\124h\124r" |
| 16:32.05 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: that's the crash the others have been talking about |
| 16:32.11 | Stanzilla | no idea how but CanIMogIt does it for me |
| 16:32.24 | Stanzilla | when it happens, relogging to a different character crashes with that msg |
| 16:32.37 | Stanzilla | and deleting the cache folder "fixes" it for a session |
| 16:40.37 | TheDanW | hrm ok, not sure why that would be, i'll keep an eye on it |
| 16:41.06 | TheDanW | to be clear, this is crashing on live right? |
| 16:43.32 | nevcairiel | yes, plenty people get it with that addon |
| 16:43.40 | nevcairiel | because it aggressively loads a bunch of items, or something |
| 16:44.22 | Semlar | don't look at me |
| 16:44.55 | nevcairiel | if 7.1 has new APIs to at least get the appearance from and item id or something without model scanning, maybe that will cut down on that uglyness |
| 16:45.50 | nevcairiel | (or item string to be more precise) |
| 16:46.43 | TheDanW | it should be very difficult to get 2k items in the cache at one time regardless |
| 16:47.40 | TheDanW | its likely a bug on our end that we're allowing the lock to be held that long |
| 17:08.57 | VIad | still would argue it would be nice to have api to return itemid>appearanceid instead of scanning the dressroom model :p |
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| 17:13.46 | TheDanW | VIad: is this not sufficient? C_TransmogCollection.GetItemInfo(itemID, [itemModID]/itemLink/itemName) returns appearanceID, sourceID |
| 17:14.02 | VIad | hmm. so what is nevcairiel on about? |
| 17:14.10 | TheDanW | this is new for 7.1 |
| 17:14.14 | VIad | ah neat. |
| 17:14.37 | nevcairiel | yeah i didnt check yet if it made it in |
| 17:29.50 | Semlar | why does my pet need to be in my line of sight for it to FD |
| 17:30.19 | nevcairiel | you need to see it to tell it what to do |
| 17:30.29 | Semlar | i don't think that's true |
| 17:30.48 | Constie | You rely on hand gestures. |
| 17:31.18 | VIad | Semlar: can your pet NOT drop aggro if you tell it to play dead? |
| 17:33.43 | Semlar | are you supposed to somehow be able to navigate around all of these detectors in suramar without killing them |
| 17:35.59 | VIad | well there are like tons of detection mobs in the eastern part |
| 17:36.09 | VIad | I dont think its supposed to be easy to get around there |
| 17:36.21 | VIad | and I find it sad that grapling is ONLY part of the south west part with the quest :/ |
| 17:36.27 | VIad | I wish that quest unlocked grapling in all of suramar |
| 17:36.57 | VIad | like additional layer of transportation |
| 17:37.11 | VIad | Semlar: can you make 1 button make pet go from passive to assist stance? |
| 17:37.40 | Semlar | yes? |
| 17:39.18 | Semlar | just click the pet bar |
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| 17:40.55 | VIad | thats not 1 button |
| 17:41.03 | VIad | thats 2, one for each stance |
| 17:41.14 | VIad | I guess its not possible to make a toggle button? |
| 17:41.18 | bshelden | So you wanted "and back again on the next click"? |
| 17:41.25 | bshelden | Cause you didn't even hint at that |
| 17:41.39 | Elkano | any PitBull dev online? |
| 17:41.47 | Semlar | of course you can make a toggle button, that's the entire premise of gnomesequencer |
| 17:42.18 | Semlar | you may even be able to just cast the pet stances directly |
| 17:42.44 | VIad | hmm |
| 17:42.47 | VIad | I will try that |
| 17:42.53 | VIad | in that case a simple castsequence will do yes |
| 17:43.07 | VIad | I think I was thinking of the shapeshift bar being difficult to work with |
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| 17:51.34 | Semlar | whenever i try to buy limited-quantity items from any vendors i get "This item is currently sold out" even though it's in the window and has the number available listed |
| 17:52.04 | Constie | I've been getting that in the Underbelly. |
| 17:52.35 | Semlar | i thought it was just the vendor in the underbelly but i also can't buy this limited item from some elf in suramar |
| 17:52.54 | Constie | That might just be racism. |
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| 17:57.37 | modernist | trying to style these whisper/bnet conversation tabs is fun |
| 17:57.37 | VIad | but Semlar is a half panda half elf |
| 17:57.51 | VIad | anything chat related is fun |
| 17:58.44 | modernist | apparently name:match'%s+' is failing on "matt blanc" |
| 17:59.58 | Semlar | you're trying to match spaces? |
| 18:00.32 | modernist | well, i should use find really |
| 18:00.52 | modernist | just looking for tabs that are using bnet names with spaces, so i can truncate them |
| 18:01.34 | Semlar | you can't get bnet names |
| 18:01.41 | Semlar | so that's going to be tricky |
| 18:01.44 | modernist | oh |
| 18:01.48 | modernist | damnit |
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| 18:02.02 | modernist | http://i.cubeupload.com/F4xyui.png |
| 18:02.04 | modernist | forever a ... |
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| 18:04.56 | Gnarfoz | where do you procure that WoW for ants version, modernist? |
| 18:05.26 | modernist | 1. source a macbook air thats already on its knees |
| 18:05.42 | modernist | 2. open client in windowed mode. make even smaller |
| 18:05.47 | modernist | 3. ??? |
| 18:06.56 | modernist | 4. make ui users with 4k screens really mad when the thing your working on is being written in a 1024x640 window |
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| 18:10.34 | VIad | next macbook has no usb |
| 18:10.48 | Gnarfoz | only headphone jacks |
| 18:10.52 | VIad | :d |
| 18:11.00 | VIad | with adapter if you need to use it for usb |
| 18:11.07 | VIad | but only one usb at time |
| 18:12.00 | modernist | god i hope my phone/laptop doesnt die too soon |
| 18:17.49 | VIad | you want a iphone 7 with a adapter in your pocket :p |
| 18:36.26 | LexSfX | how is 1.3877787807814e-017 not less than 0 or greater than 20? :x |
| 18:36.55 | LexSfX | lua seems to think that's the case |
| 18:37.09 | LexSfX | maybe it's due to type conversion and back |
| 18:37.14 | LexSfX | between string and number |
| 18:41.15 | Semlar | it's marginally larger than 0 |
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| 18:46.52 | LexSfX | Semlar: oh, you're right. idk what i was thinking |
| 18:47.28 | LexSfX | i guess i was assuming that it was actually super huge |
| 18:47.59 | LexSfX | now i understand that it's like 0.0000000000000000138etc. |
| 18:48.02 | Semlar | i think i broke my missions by reactivating a low level follower |
| 18:48.24 | Semlar | i was getting a ton of missions until i did this and now they all disappeared except for 2 |
| 18:48.58 | Semlar | that was a horrible choice and i don't know why i listened to the internet |
| 18:49.07 | LexSfX | if it matters, i also have no missions |
| 18:49.21 | LexSfX | and i didn't reactivate any followers |
| 18:49.28 | LexSfX | and i had a ton recently |
| 18:49.41 | Semlar | are you trying to say it was just a coincidence |
| 18:50.00 | LexSfX | maybe, or that it's happening to everyone (though obviously a sample count of 2 is useless) |
| 18:50.07 | LexSfX | worth exploring |
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| 19:13.51 | znf | Hmm. |
| 19:14.10 | znf | So you can actually make a profit by buying pots (healing, mana, sylvan elixir) and obliterate them |
| 19:14.13 | znf | and selling the obliterum |
| 19:14.50 | nevcairiel | you need like 80 pots or so |
| 19:16.15 | znf | I've obliterated about 20 and I always got 2 |
| 19:16.24 | znf | I guess I was lucky |
| 19:20.19 | VIad | the wine quest is horrible |
| 19:20.34 | VIad | the wine items respawn unrelated if they are ALL gone because there are 20 people doing the quest here |
| 19:20.43 | VIad | its been like this for two weeks now |
| 19:21.08 | VIad | stuff like this is why people realm jump and abuse the system |
| 19:21.22 | znf | grab the kegs? |
| 19:21.53 | VIad | I told you |
| 19:21.55 | VIad | they are all gone |
| 19:21.58 | VIad | too many people doing it |
| 19:22.06 | VIad | anything lootable is looted within a second |
| 19:24.33 | znf | I'm on a high-pop realm and I never see that |
| 19:25.21 | VIad | probably not high pop enough |
| 19:25.28 | VIad | and tons of * marked players |
| 19:25.36 | VIad | probably crz bugs |
| 19:27.58 | modernist | weird yeah ive never seen that either |
| 19:28.24 | modernist | seen the other crz issues â pvp towers etc |
| 19:28.41 | znf | VIad, what realm are you on? |
| 19:28.50 | VIad | auchindoun |
| 19:28.52 | Stanzilla | I wonder why they dont use phasing for those quests |
| 19:28.56 | Stanzilla | just make personal quest items |
| 19:28.57 | Stanzilla | problem solved |
| 19:29.10 | VIad | personal quest items are genious, shame they DO NOT have to be applied everywhere :po |
| 19:29.40 | znf | we're very much higher pop than your realm |
| 19:30.01 | VIad | crz m8 |
| 19:30.15 | VIad | or just happens that my realm has more people questing in suramar atm |
| 19:31.14 | znf | aren't you on EU? |
| 19:31.42 | znf | You're on a CR |
| 19:31.46 | znf | ofc you're seeing (*) |
| 19:32.42 | VIad | connected realms don't add * |
| 19:33.02 | VIad | broken isles should be realm only, no cross realm |
| 19:33.06 | VIad | unless people group up and such |
| 19:33.26 | znf | Since when they don't add (*)? O.o |
| 19:34.22 | VIad | auchindoun/jaeddnar/dunemaul are "same" realm |
| 19:34.31 | VIad | can guild up, mythic raids, and such |
| 19:34.56 | VIad | they add * only when it's not part of the connected realm circle |
| 19:40.35 | znf | I have no idea what I'm doing with TSM |
| 19:40.42 | znf | every time I try to install and use this, I'm overwhelmed |
| 19:42.15 | Thunder_Child | Trade Skill Master? |
| 19:42.25 | Gnarfoz | watch some videos or something |
| 19:43.04 | znf | I'll never watch videos on how to use X |
| 19:43.11 | znf | Videos are a waste of time |
| 19:43.13 | znf | 15 minutes intro |
| 19:43.16 | znf | "subscribe to this, please" |
| 19:43.31 | Gnarfoz | exactly my opinon |
| 19:43.33 | Gnarfoz | + |
| 19:43.35 | Gnarfoz | i |
| 19:43.38 | znf | "I didn't have much time in the past year to do anything, but I promise if this gets attention I will do 50 videos a day" |
| 19:43.38 | Gnarfoz | man I type gud tonight |
| 19:44.18 | znf | Does anyone know if WQs can get ilvl higher than 850 right now? |
| 19:44.32 | znf | with all the *forged crap and whatever other bonuses they came up? |
| 19:45.20 | Gnarfoz | 850 is the cap until raids open |
| 19:45.56 | Thunder_Child | I'm so behind, I just got to 810 yesterday. |
| 19:46.07 | Gnarfoz | that's fine |
| 19:46.40 | Thunder_Child | Except my guild is all "Lets run mythics this weekend" >.< |
| 19:51.52 | foxlit | "in the near future, weâre planning on deploying hotfixes that reduce tank damage output across the board (tanks should be very sturdy and effective at killing things, but too often their damage output rivals that of pure damage dealers)" |
| 19:51.55 | Gnarfoz | that's also fine as long as not everyone is at that level |
| 19:53.08 | znf | you can do mythics at lower than 810, that's not an issue |
| 19:53.17 | znf | 810 is just the entry bar for random heroics |
| 19:53.25 | Unkle | I barely made 824, and I'm not exactly rushing to plow through content. |
| 19:53.52 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/GldYL7S.png |
| 19:53.55 | znf | very fucking smart |
| 19:54.02 | Unkle | I haven't even seen all the dungeons on normal yet. |
| 19:54.24 | foxlit | tourist mode! |
| 19:54.38 | TheDanW | max41479: i looked into the incorrect ilvl for the link you posted and should be fixed for an upcoming 7.1 build, fixed artifact ilvl modified by relics also |
| 19:54.50 | Unkle | I think that describes me as long as you preface it with "hardcore". |
| 19:55.11 | Gnarfoz | Unkle: Stephan Frost voice: ...hardcore! |
| 19:55.16 | Unkle | Unkle - Hardcore WoW Tourist |
| 19:55.19 | znf | the fuck is wrong with Drop The Cheapest? |
| 19:55.22 | Stanzilla | hardcore tourist sounds frisky, Unkle |
| 19:55.23 | znf | it just randomly started to sell my good shit |
| 19:55.34 | Unkle | Stanzilla: You have *no* idea. |
| 19:56.04 | TheDanW | oh he left the channel |
| 20:00.09 | Unkle | I mean, I play lots of hours, but I don't play for typical "hardcore" player goals. |
| 20:02.20 | Simca | Karazahn1 |
| 20:02.49 | Simca | continuing the trend of misspelling major map names, here we are with karazhan 2.0 |
| 20:04.21 | Simca | This application has encountered a critical error: |
| 20:04.21 | Simca | ERROR #0 (0x85100000) Assertion failure! |
| 20:04.21 | Simca | ProcessID: 27452 |
| 20:04.21 | Simca | File: Tooltip.cpp |
| 20:04.21 | Simca | Line: 7535 |
| 20:04.22 | Simca | Expr: enchant |
| 20:04.34 | Simca | TheDanW: that's the full error message, i copied it into a different chat when i ran into it |
| 20:04.49 | Simca | i can try to get a full error log if it is needed |
| 20:05.48 | Simca | as for the item cache evict records crash, it's super intermittent |
| 20:06.24 | Simca | sometimes i do something, and it crashes, and i restart and do the same thing again, and it doesn't |
| 20:06.37 | Simca | but i've even had it in normal play with minimum addon use |
| 20:06.54 | Simca | so i can't imagine it's that rare of an occurrence |
| 20:07.31 | znf | the big fucking question is |
| 20:07.41 | znf | why the hell won't PvP talents activate in random places where is world pvp? |
| 20:07.44 | znf | ie: the damn arenas |
| 20:08.01 | nevcairiel | works in toiwers for me, didnt do enough arenas to know |
| 20:09.15 | znf | nevcairiel, I mean the pvp arena in blackrook |
| 20:09.20 | znf | the world quest |
| 20:09.30 | znf | it takes about 1 minute for them to activate |
| 20:11.11 | znf | now they didn't activate at all :-/ |
| 20:11.17 | znf | no pvp talents == me dead |
| 20:11.18 | znf | :-( |
| 20:11.57 | nevcairiel | sucks to be shadowpriest, i suppose |
| 20:13.16 | znf | doesn't help that there's a stacking debuff in there |
| 20:13.23 | znf | that you get your HP reduced by 5% per stack |
| 20:16.01 | znf | Stanzilla, is there a fix to this chrome bug (not being able to log on to b.net) |
| 20:17.14 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 20:17.15 | Stanzilla | wait |
| 20:18.14 | Stanzilla | or use beta channel |
| 20:18.26 | znf | :( |
| 20:18.34 | Stanzilla | theoretically it should be in the latest dev, too |
| 20:18.40 | Stanzilla | did you maybe not update? |
| 20:18.50 | znf | I haven't restarted in a few days, so yeah |
| 20:19.02 | Stanzilla | suck a dick then |
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| 20:32.15 | znf | VIad, you're right |
| 20:32.20 | znf | there's some stupid CRZ going on here |
| 20:32.23 | VIad | :/ |
| 20:32.24 | znf | with the wine quest |
| 20:32.43 | VIad | yeah, I know |
| 20:32.57 | VIad | and respawns slow as shit. I recommend trying to find the wine carrying mobs and killing them for the casc. |
| 20:33.35 | Unkle | The cask really makes that quest tolerable. |
| 20:34.30 | znf | ...except other people can loot the cask while you're still in combat |
| 20:35.45 | Unkle | I ... didn't have that problem. |
| 20:36.10 | znf | this was never crz until today |
| 20:36.24 | Stanzilla | conspiracy |
| 20:36.27 | znf | I've never had issues completing it in less than 1 minute |
| 20:39.41 | VIad | when I get into the siege engine in ulduar I get "Message: Interface\FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:40: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'xOffset' (a nil value)" |
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| 20:41.56 | TheDanW | Simca: we got it to happen internally, not sure why yet |
| 20:42.33 | Thunder_Child | Because something is broken. |
| 20:43.08 | Simca | VIad: that should be impossible |
| 20:43.25 | VIad | :( |
| 20:44.08 | VIad | I don't know, Simca. I am just saying. |
| 20:44.56 | Andols | The client can play .ogg and .mp3 files. Correct? |
| 20:45.35 | Simca | it can play custom ogg files |
| 20:45.42 | Simca | i don't know if it can play custom mp3s |
| 20:46.44 | nebula | remember when they announced they were no longer supporting mp3s forever ago, not sure if they ever actually removed support, though |
| 20:48.07 | foxlit | wait, you remember them announcing something? |
| 20:48.11 | foxlit | You must surely be mistaken. |
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| 20:50.18 | AmiYuy | Stanzilla, znf, tz: Do you guys have an alpha version of Can I Mog It? installed? I understand you've gotten Error #134 and it might be related to our alpha version database somehow? |
| 20:50.35 | znf | all my addons are alpha, yes |
| 20:50.56 | Andols | ok, PlaySoundFile() works. Can't you play custom stuff with PlayMusic()? |
| 20:51.17 | Stanzilla | AmiYuy: yes, alpha here too |
| 20:51.57 | Stanzilla | foxlit: http://paste2.org/0ZtK48z3 on login < not sure if you got that |
| 20:52.10 | Stanzilla | only happened once |
| 20:52.12 | Stanzilla | could have been lag |
| 20:52.55 | foxlit | Stanzilla: on a hunter, yeah? |
| 20:53.07 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 20:53.23 | Stanzilla | is that hunter-related code? |
| 20:53.26 | Stanzilla | or are you stalking me |
| 20:53.27 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 20:53.49 | Stanzilla | I'm not like the other hunters, I can do barrage without pulling the whole instance! |
| 20:54.19 | fewyn | my iphone is in INDIANAPOLIS |
| 20:54.38 | Thunder_Child | I hope you are there as well. |
| 20:55.35 | fewyn | nope |
| 20:55.37 | fewyn | i'm in COLUMBUS |
| 20:57.04 | Andols | Could be worse :P |
| 20:57.08 | foxlit | it is hunter code. I should probably package the fix already, but there's enough friction in that process to make me hesitate for small things. |
| 20:58.16 | Andols | fewyn: how did you loose it? |
| 21:00.00 | Semlar | you only think you're not like the other hunters |
| 21:00.36 | Semlar | guys i just did an instance with another hunter and neither one of us pulled a single extra mob |
| 21:00.46 | nevcairiel | were you both afk? |
| 21:00.48 | Thunder_Child | So the game is broken? |
| 21:00.52 | nevcairiel | or was it violet hold? |
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| 21:00.58 | Semlar | it was maw of souls |
| 21:01.09 | Semlar | wait do birds count |
| 21:01.16 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 21:01.19 | Semlar | shit |
| 21:01.31 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.46 | Semlar | stop breaking things foxlit |
| 21:02.49 | znf | foxlit, can I ask him if he's retarded? |
| 21:02.56 | foxlit | no. |
| 21:03.06 | znf | :-( |
| 21:03.07 | znf | ok |
| 21:03.46 | Thunder_Child | So did they fix pets aggroing half an instance because you walked over 3" lip that was unpathable for the pet? |
| 21:04.07 | znf | Thunder_Child, yes, now they aggro the other half, too |
| 21:04.46 | Thunder_Child | Well at least it is consistent. |
| 21:05.56 | _Kee | foxlit, could you make and addon that enables internet connection instead? :p |
| 21:06.05 | fewyn | Andols: it's my iPhone 7 |
| 21:06.22 | Stanzilla | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/766586-hotfixes-september-15/ |
| 21:06.23 | Stanzilla | hahahah |
| 21:06.26 | Stanzilla | the legendary fix |
| 21:06.30 | Stanzilla | I knew it was buggy like that |
| 21:07.17 | nebula | bad luck protection working in reverse ;; |
| 21:07.19 | nevcairiel | sounds like they didnt reset the bad luck protection |
| 21:08.24 | Semlar | pfft, where's my legendaries at |
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| 21:13.49 | Andols | fewyn: Oh, i thought it was stolen or something, then everything is "fine" :) |
| 21:14.12 | znf | I wasn't aware there's a bad luck protection for legendaries |
| 21:15.33 | fewyn | me either znf |
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| 21:16.36 | znf | PvP World Quests should have rewards restored for Prestiged players. |
| 21:16.37 | znf | uh |
| 21:16.43 | znf | maybe that's why I didn't get the cloak? >_< |
| 21:17.05 | znf | Hired Underbelly Guards should be much less likely to leave you. |
| 21:17.07 | znf | thank you |
| 21:17.13 | znf | Was wondering why they left 2 seconds later |
| 21:17.22 | fewyn | what should i go get for diner |
| 21:17.27 | fewyn | dinner |
| 21:17.47 | foxlit | a deer! |
| 21:18.23 | kullervo | pizza |
| 21:18.56 | znf | Stanzilla, you think they'll make S2M non-mandatory for raids? |
| 21:19.14 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:19.21 | Semlar | what's an S2M |
| 21:19.27 | znf | Surrender to Madness |
| 21:19.47 | znf | the talent that kills you when you run out of insanity for Shadow |
| 21:20.02 | Unkle | "layers are no longer able to use the Bribe and Mind Control abilities on Ysera." LAWL |
| 21:20.10 | Stanzilla | will take a while until the designer that made it caves when he sees all the numbers from their internal tools |
| 21:20.11 | Stanzilla | but yeah |
| 21:20.36 | znf | you mean the one that 100% of Shadow players use S2M in raids? |
| 21:20.40 | znf | and they do it at very safe moments? |
| 21:20.52 | Stanzilla | more like all the others are not able to keep up |
| 21:21.15 | znf | with the amount of stuns and knockbacks bosses have right now, I'm normally afraid to use it |
| 21:21.23 | nebula | Hotfix: S2M now has a 3 hour cooldown |
| 21:21.39 | Stanzilla | another possibiblity is that they are actually happy with the spot non-s2m priests are in atm |
| 21:21.43 | znf | it already has a 10 minute non-resetting cooldown |
| 21:21.52 | Stanzilla | and just take it as a high reward-high risk thing and leave it alone |
| 21:23.58 | znf | I just noticed the sound you make when you die with that |
| 21:24.34 | znf | wait, wtf, it only lasts 3 minutes now? |
| 21:24.35 | znf | >_< |
| 21:24.53 | kullervo | you're going to die before that anyway |
| 21:25.20 | Stanzilla | that was a beta change, znf |
| 21:25.25 | znf | :-( |
| 21:25.26 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/7kNKm8z.png |
| 21:26.16 | znf | I'm not sure why the CD is 10 minutes tough |
| 21:26.18 | znf | to prevent combat-rezz? |
| 21:27.34 | foxlit | you can't be CR'ed anyway? |
| 21:28.33 | nevcairiel | yeah it prevents CR anyway so you dont cheese it =p |
| 21:29.08 | nebula | you get a 3min debuff that prevents CR |
| 21:29.41 | nebula | 7.1 nerfed it a bit |
| 21:31.26 | Stanzilla | where? |
| 21:32.16 | Ssateneth | obviously stack shadow priests and ret paladins |
| 21:32.34 | Stanzilla | didn't see a nerf in the notes, nebula |
| 21:32.40 | nebula | 150% down from 200% |
| 21:32.46 | Stanzilla | that was a tooltip fix |
| 21:32.54 | Stanzilla | already hotfixed shortly after release |
| 21:32.56 | nebula | ah |
| 21:33.00 | znf | beta actually had it at 200% afaik? |
| 21:33.06 | znf | and they nerfed it on pre-patch? |
| 21:33.10 | Stanzilla | read what I said |
| 21:33.15 | znf | I don't believe you |
| 21:33.22 | Stanzilla | good to know |
| 21:33.26 | Ssateneth | HABEEB IT |
| 21:35.31 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/aVXM5Vv.png |
| 21:35.36 | znf | fuck this :( |
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| 21:46.18 | znf | Stanzilla, have you tried twintop's sim thingie? |
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| 21:50.07 | Stanzilla | yes |
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| 22:08.11 | Stanzilla | glad we cleared that up |
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| 22:29.56 | fewyn | any suggestions on the best way to get arcane mana? |
| 22:32.00 | Stanzilla | vineyard |
| 22:36.47 | fewyn | what do you mean by vineyard Stanzilla |
| 22:37.07 | fewyn | i am at the vineyard |
| 22:37.31 | nebula | so run around in circles looting arc wine, glowing tomes, and ley petal stuff |
| 22:37.37 | fewyn | ah |
| 22:37.59 | nebula | just a good concentration of high mana items in that area |
| 22:38.24 | Stanzilla | yup that |
| 22:41.03 | Mr_Rabies | semlar is a warlock? |
| 22:41.10 | Mr_Rabies | welp i was scrolled up |
| 22:42.28 | Stanzilla | http://www.craigmakesgames.com/blog/2016/9/12/departing-from-wow |
| 22:42.30 | Stanzilla | and another one |
| 22:43.04 | znf | who's that guy? |
| 22:46.17 | znf | wonder what's up with so many people leaving all the sudden |
| 22:46.52 | nebula | he was lead quest guy, i think, but oversaw artifact related stuff mostly |
| 22:47.58 | znf | speakin of, the pools in Highmountain are... |
| 22:48.03 | znf | where, rather |
| 22:48.05 | znf | they aren't |
| 22:48.13 | znf | fishing pools that is |
| 22:48.19 | nebula | above nesingwary |
| 22:49.46 | Stanzilla | lead quest and lead artifact, yeah |
| 22:49.48 | znf | was none |
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| 23:24.02 | Antiarc | Hey folks. Returning to WoW after a long time. Seems like things have changed - is there an updated API reference I should be using? |
| 23:24.23 | Antiarc | I'm having trouble with SetChange here: CreateFrame("Frame"):CreateAnimationGroup():CreateAnimation("Alpha"):SetChange(-1) |
| 23:24.40 | Antiarc | It's nil, I don't recall how to dump all the functions on a userdata object, and can't find an updated reference for Alpha animations |
| 23:24.45 | nebula | Antiarc: SetChange is gone :p |
| 23:24.47 | Stanzilla | SetFrom/ToAlpha |
| 23:24.59 | Antiarc | Is there doc on this somewhere? |
| 23:25.13 | foxlit | no. |
| 23:25.18 | Antiarc | well that's useful :) |
| 23:25.55 | foxlit | okay, I'm partially lying, there's http://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_7.0.3/API_changes . |
| 23:26.12 | Antiarc | Excellent, thank you |
| 23:26.14 | Antiarc | Also, hi :) |
| 23:26.51 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 23:26.53 | Stanzilla | long time no see |
| 23:27.14 | foxlit | and maybe http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=153 , but forums are a terrible avenue for this. |
| 23:32.38 | modernist | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53248 |
| 23:32.45 | modernist | covers most major 7.0 changes |
| 23:33.03 | modernist | but yeah, build the doc |
