| 00:00.02 | foxlit | Semlar: are there no traps for anyone but melee hunters? |
| 00:00.33 | Semlar | yeah, they took them away from the other two specs |
| 00:00.46 | Semlar | which i think is absurd |
| 00:02.34 | jro | Anyone familiar with aceconfig option tables know if there is a way to increase the width of the hover popup |
| 00:03.23 | foxlit | Semlar: and aspects? |
| 00:03.35 | Semlar | aspects are all just cooldowns now |
| 00:03.50 | Semlar | like "aspect of the cheetah" is just a 3 minute cooldown that provides a short speed boost |
| 00:04.28 | Semlar | i think survival has aspect of the hawk or eagle or something that's a temporary damage buff |
| 00:05.08 | Semlar | aspect of the pack is just flat out gone |
| 00:05.26 | Semlar | oh and aspect of the turtle replaced deterrence |
| 00:05.36 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.01 | Semlar | as default rings? |
| 00:07.37 | foxlit | yes |
| 00:08.22 | Semlar | aspects and pets make sense |
| 00:08.44 | foxlit | do you constantly switch pets? |
| 00:08.46 | Semlar | traps i guess, i don't know how much people use rings for in combat |
| 00:09.41 | Semlar | you rarely switch pets, especially now that buffs are basically gone |
| 00:09.54 | Semlar | but you might want to bring out a corehound to bloodlust or something |
| 00:10.56 | Semlar | are these supposed to just be frequently used things |
| 00:11.24 | foxlit | Not really, you'd go insane. |
| 00:11.45 | Semlar | of all of these, the pet ring would be the one i might actually use |
| 00:12.05 | foxlit | more along the lines of ocassionally used things; but definitely not "never used things" |
| 00:12.07 | Semlar | it's kind of a pain to call a specific pet |
| 00:12.24 | Semlar | and having all of the pets and pet related functions on your action bars is a waste of space most of the time |
| 00:13.17 | Semlar | there's just a flyout menu to pick which pet you want to summon and it breaks fairly regularly for no apparent reason |
| 00:14.39 | Semlar | one of the many reasons i stopped playing with a pet as soon as that was an option |
| 00:14.55 | znf | let's see if I managed to sync my UI from the beta to live |
| 00:15.19 | foxlit | was kind of okay to have a single pet while levelling. |
| 00:15.54 | foxlit | So a lot of the multi-pet management stuff didn't come up. |
| 00:16.33 | Semlar | switching pets in combat isn't super common, but it would be convenient to be able to quickly pick which pet you want to summon when you do summon one |
| 00:17.09 | Semlar | like every time you wipe |
| 00:17.47 | foxlit | They rather desperately need to merge Revive Pet into Call Pet. |
| 00:18.31 | Semlar | aside from the "call pet" part of this macro, i don't think the rest makes sense |
| 00:18.49 | foxlit | which macro? |
| 00:18.50 | Semlar | revive pet and mend pet are the same spell |
| 00:19.16 | Semlar | the one at the bottom of the pet ring |
| 00:19.40 | Semlar | i guess it calls a pet if you don't have one or tries to heal or revive it |
| 00:19.57 | Semlar | i guess it also dismisses it though |
| 00:20.16 | foxlit | I think I wrote that macro back in mop. |
| 00:20.22 | Semlar | but the part where it has mend pet and revive pet separately isn't necessary |
| 00:21.53 | Semlar | ideally it would call the last pet you had out but that would be a lot more complicated |
| 00:23.23 | foxlit | revive maps to mend if your pet is alive. |
| 00:23.23 | znf | Someone tell me the name of one of those addons that tells you ifyou learned some transmog shit |
| 00:23.31 | znf | so I can clean up my bags |
| 00:24.01 | Semlar | the default interface tells you |
| 00:24.35 | znf | let me explain this clearer: http://i.imgur.com/dlgaxpR.jpg |
| 00:27.18 | Torhal | znf: Can I Mog It? |
| 00:29.10 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.51 | Semlar | looks fine to me |
| 00:31.09 | Semlar | now make a ring that's nothing but barrage |
| 00:31.16 | foxlit | kind of needs [pet:id] |
| 00:33.00 | Semlar | so they added a new item in legion that's a bop version of another item |
| 00:33.16 | Semlar | do you suppose they're going to replace the existing items with that one |
| 00:33.56 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.10 | Semlar | nope |
| 00:34.32 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.51 | foxlit | hm, stable info seems available, so I think I can fix this unless all your pets are wolves named Steve. |
| 00:38.08 | Semlar | they're all crabs named citizen snips |
| 00:38.20 | foxlit | same problem. |
| 00:38.37 | Semlar | looks like you still can't move an exotic pet to your loadout while not in BM spec |
| 00:38.48 | Semlar | that really needs to be spec specific |
| 00:38.48 | Jagscorpion | any of you guys know of a way to automatically copy the dev version of the addon I'm working on into the wow folder automatically so I don't have to continually copy it in every time I want to check a change? |
| 00:38.54 | nevcairiel | doesnt that make sense Semlar |
| 00:39.08 | Jagscorpion | in other words sync the folder |
| 00:39.15 | nevcairiel | why not work right in your addon folder |
| 00:39.17 | nevcairiel | thats what i do |
| 00:39.37 | Jagscorpion | I suppose that's one way to do it, I just wanted to keep things separated a tad |
| 00:39.54 | Semlar | it's super annoying nevcairiel if you're switching between BM and another spec to not be able to move your pets around without actually being in BM spec while you're at the stable |
| 00:40.12 | Semlar | probably less of an issue now with artifacts |
| 00:40.43 | Semlar | since you're probably going to be stuck in one spec for the most part |
| 00:41.07 | Jagscorpion | second question, I have an if then function with multiple elseif arguments, is there a way to add a print to each of them if debug = true? |
| 00:41.08 | foxlit | you didn't make it clear if you're moving it to or from your loadout. |
| 00:41.23 | Jagscorpion | I tried to do it with and if, but the system wants something after and |
| 00:41.35 | Semlar | you can move them into the stable if they're exotic but you can't move them back out |
| 00:41.45 | nevcairiel | just nest another if into it? if debug then print("foo") end? |
| 00:41.54 | nevcairiel | no reason to combine it into the original if |
| 00:42.17 | foxlit | and stables aren't per-spec? |
| 00:42.20 | nevcairiel | Semlar: it kinda makes sense to limit that if you cant use the pet, but with playing multiple specs i suppose its a bit annoying |
| 00:42.30 | Jagscorpion | won't that make it always print all the print arguments instead of the specific one for the if it's returning? |
| 00:42.33 | foxlit | s/stables/loadouts/ |
| 00:42.48 | Semlar | no stables aren't per spec |
| 00:42.50 | nevcairiel | anyone else have their battle.net update agent crashing occasionally recently? |
| 00:42.54 | nevcairiel | mine started doing it |
| 00:43.52 | Semlar | neither are loadouts, it was actually something i ran into a lot when i was raiding SoO because i was playing as BM for some fights and MM for others |
| 00:44.26 | Semlar | and i had like 3 exotic pets in my loadout, so when i switched to MM i was only able to summon 2 pets |
| 00:47.22 | Semlar | i was switching specs because one was better for trash and aoe fights and the other one was better for mainly single target stuff |
| 00:53.22 | jro | is there a call to find the duration of a debuff from an ability |
| 00:53.31 | Jagscorpion | nevairiel when I put another if into it it breaks the function |
| 00:53.40 | jro | like the 15sec from rend bleed |
| 00:54.05 | nevcairiel | dont think so jro |
| 00:54.27 | nevcairiel | tooltip parsing, but since there is no clearly defined preset for the tooltip wording thats going to be insane |
| 00:54.40 | Jagscorpion | http://hastebin.com/ucigacabuy.lua |
| 00:54.56 | nevcairiel | that misses an end |
| 00:54.56 | jro | is that duration impacted by haste or is it a fixed duration? |
| 00:55.09 | Jagscorpion | it wants the function to end, but there's a bunch of other elseif's that have to come first |
| 00:55.16 | Jagscorpion | and I want to print something different for each elseif |
| 00:55.23 | Jagscorpion | so I know which one it's returning |
| 00:55.31 | nevcairiel | just add an end after the print |
| 00:55.36 | nevcairiel | every if needs to terminate with an end |
| 00:55.41 | nevcairiel | its not just for functions |
| 00:55.53 | Jagscorpion | so that won't mess with all the other elseifs? |
| 00:56.05 | nevcairiel | no |
| 00:58.36 | nevcairiel | every block thats started with "if", "for", "do", "while", "function", and probably some more, needs to terminate with an end. and each block w orks individually, so the end only closes the most recent block |
| 00:58.48 | Jagscorpion | ah that's good to know |
| 01:03.36 | znf | end end end end |
| 01:03.40 | znf | to end the world! |
| 01:04.01 | Jagscorpion | :( now it prints nothing |
| 01:04.04 | Jagscorpion | and gives no errors |
| 01:04.14 | Jagscorpion | sigh, time to look through and see if I did something dumb |
| 01:11.11 | Jagscorpion | if I assign jsasDebug = true then later on if I say if jsasDebug it should return true right? |
| 01:11.28 | nevcairiel | if its in the same scope |
| 01:11.39 | Jagscorpion | for some reason at the moment jsasDebug is returning nil even from a global variable |
| 01:11.48 | Jagscorpion | I even tried assigning a string to it |
| 01:11.54 | Jagscorpion | "true" but printing it still results in nil |
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| 01:17.11 | Jagscorpion | something about the second if is screwing up the function :( |
| 01:17.12 | Jagscorpion | http://hastebin.com/oyenavuriv.lua |
| 01:17.58 | Jagscorpion | it just messes it up if I try to add conditions to the print |
| 01:18.09 | Jagscorpion | but doesn't return a lua error, it just doesn't print :( |
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| 01:19.32 | Iriel | I would suggest you write a function that does the conditional print, if nothing else it'll make your debugging easier |
| 01:19.37 | Iriel | but it'll also make your code cleaner. |
| 01:20.31 | Jagscorpion | I would love to do that, but wouldn't that always print the same thing then? |
| 01:21.34 | nevcairiel | no, you would do something like function debugprint(...) if jsasDebug then print(...) end end; and then call debugprint("foo") instead of print |
| 01:21.34 | Iriel | function jsasPrint(...) if (jsasDebug) then print(...) end end |
| 01:21.43 | nevcairiel | also, make the function local :D |
| 01:22.27 | Iriel | Also use true / false, or true / nil, or 1 / nil... not "true". |
| 01:23.01 | Jagscorpion | well yeah, I usually do but I was getting desperate to get some sort of return, and I wanted to see if I was botching some element of the truth value |
| 01:23.44 | Jagscorpion | I'll try that |
| 01:29.06 | Jagscorpion | it needs 2 ends? |
| 01:29.14 | Jagscorpion | 1 to end the if, the other to end the function overall? |
| 01:29.27 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 01:29.36 | Jagscorpion | yay I understood something! |
| 01:29.37 | Jagscorpion | :) |
| 01:30.27 | Jagscorpion | you guys wrote it differently, is jsasDebug and (jsasDebug) equivalent? |
| 01:30.45 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 01:31.56 | nevcairiel | if statements dont require brackets, but some people like using them, everyone has their own style |
| 01:32.10 | Jagscorpion | with lua I do I have to declare the variable before I declare the function or does it matter? |
| 01:33.03 | nevcairiel | if its a local variable it should be declared first, if its global it makes no difference - but don't use global if it can be avoided :) |
| 01:33.13 | Jagscorpion | ah, good to know |
| 01:33.17 | nevcairiel | its generally a good idea to sort things that way though, first declare, then use |
| 01:33.27 | nevcairiel | even if it sometimes works if you do it in a different order |
| 01:36.55 | Jagscorpion | is function() the same as function(...) |
| 01:37.01 | nevcairiel | no |
| 01:37.16 | nevcairiel | one takes no arguments, and one takes a variable number of arguments |
| 01:38.08 | Jagscorpion | so if a function doesn't need any particular arguments is there any point to include (self,event,...) |
| 01:38.19 | Jagscorpion | or is that just a reminder to self so to speak |
| 01:42.24 | fewyn | where's a good place to get desktop backgrounds these days? |
| 01:44.20 | mckenziemc | a color picker |
| 01:45.21 | fewyn | but i want piiiiictures |
| 01:45.45 | mckenziemc | tired of iPhones? |
| 01:46.03 | mckenziemc | or smashed yours in frustration? |
| 01:46.14 | fewyn | ? |
| 01:46.14 | znf | ...I almost feel sorry for Varian |
| 01:46.18 | fewyn | my iphone is fine |
| 01:46.23 | fewyn | i'm talking about my computer |
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| 01:58.01 | znf | imgur wallpaper dump! |
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| 02:07.32 | fewyn | http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/travel/ct-kfc-recipe-revealed-20160818-story.html |
| 02:07.36 | fewyn | IT HAS BE DONE |
| 02:07.41 | fewyn | the world can now end |
| 02:09.02 | znf | ...old |
| 02:09.17 | znf | honestly, I've seen that articles like that over the years |
| 02:09.21 | znf | they all claim "finally revelead" |
| 02:09.31 | znf | not sure why it has recently resurrected |
| 02:10.08 | fewyn | i'm tempted to try the recipe |
| 02:11.23 | Jagscorpion | can I use a console command to reload all addons in the folder? |
| 02:11.31 | Jagscorpion | or rather reindex them? |
| 02:11.47 | znf | if you added new files, you need to restart the game client |
| 02:11.49 | kd3 | if you're adding new files, you must fully exit/restart wow |
| 02:12.00 | Jagscorpion | what if it's an existing file but updated? |
| 02:12.06 | znf | just /reload |
| 02:12.07 | kd3 | then a /reload should catch the changes |
| 02:12.19 | Jagscorpion | great! |
| 02:12.24 | Jagscorpion | that will save a bunch of time |
| 02:34.53 | mckenziemc | but your computer probably doesn't have a camera built in, fewyn |
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| 03:13.31 | znf | when you quit mid-expansion, but you had potions made at the start of the expansion: http://i.imgur.com/ZAvFjgD.png |
| 03:17.17 | fewyn | lol znf |
| 03:17.20 | fewyn | all worthless |
| 03:18.33 | znf | eh |
| 03:18.41 | znf | I fished so much at the beggining of the expansion |
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| 03:18.47 | znf | I made like 200k out of potions back then |
| 03:18.53 | fewyn | ah |
| 03:19.23 | znf | but that tab was just for personal usage |
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| 03:53.27 | Fisker- | hears thunder and hugs Cairenn |
| 03:53.44 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker- |
| 03:54.09 | Fisker- | My cats are very nervous |
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| 03:55.15 | kd3 | I kinda miss thunder |
| 03:59.40 | Fisker- | Come here then kd3 |
| 04:02.52 | Cairenn | points at Thunder_Child <-- he's right there |
| 04:03.11 | Cairenn | ;p |
| 04:03.11 | Thunder_Child | waves |
| 04:03.33 | mckenziemc | blows the clouds away and hugs Cairenn. |
| 04:03.42 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
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| 04:25.58 | ccox | ~seen shirik |
| 04:25.59 | purl | shirik <quassel@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 118d 8h 40m 16s ago, saying: 'they just thought it was part of the boot process?'. |
| 04:26.18 | kd3 | 4 months? wow |
| 04:26.26 | Fisker | I miss Shirik |
| 04:26.47 | ccox | yeah, we just thinking I hadnât seen him in a while, just wasnât sure how long... |
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| 05:54.47 | Humbedooh | but the thunder is gone now, Fisker |
| 05:54.54 | Humbedooh | that's always something |
| 05:55.08 | Humbedooh | Fisker Fisker |
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| 06:19.51 | Ammako | behold, the poor implementation of the personal resource display http://i.imgur.com/VGaJ5lm.png |
| 06:21.44 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dap5lEuS5uM |
| 06:21.45 | karl_w_w | mouse |
| 06:22.05 | nebula | what do you expect? collapse the border when your target doesn't have a resource? |
| 06:22.45 | Ammako | some random npcs' health end up replacing the player's personal resource display health bar when in vehicles |
| 06:23.29 | nebula | i see |
| 06:28.25 | Stanzilla | hey nebula |
| 06:28.27 | Stanzilla | I see you 2 |
| 06:28.35 | nebula | hi |
| 06:28.44 | Stanzilla | awesome movie btw |
| 06:28.49 | Stanzilla | (now i see you 2) |
| 06:29.19 | nebula | now you see me? i heard is was pretty terrible |
| 06:32.35 | Stanzilla | liked the first one, liked the second one |
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| 06:36.47 | Stanzilla | nebula: seen suicide squad yet? |
| 06:37.00 | nebula | also heard that was terrible |
| 06:37.10 | Stanzilla | that's what I heard, too |
| 06:37.11 | kd3 | disappointed. the result of studio meddling |
| 06:37.15 | kd3 | could've been so much better |
| 06:37.46 | nebula | still made a shit tonne of money from all the hype, sad they couldn't do what they wanted |
| 06:38.12 | Stanzilla | what's the problem with it? |
| 06:38.16 | Stanzilla | storytelling? |
| 06:39.52 | kd3 | ham-handed job of editing. plot that doesn't make sense even for a comic book movie. trying to hard to turn a shot-as-pg-13 film into an r-rated film, but still getting a pg-13 rating, etc |
| 06:40.32 | kd3 | introducing characters with one line of off-screen vo |
| 06:40.33 | kd3 | etc |
| 06:41.03 | kd3 | I turned my brain off and had fun - and the drunk guy in the theater shouting out what we all were thinking sure helped |
| 06:42.02 | Stanzilla | worse than batman vs superman? |
| 06:42.46 | kd3 | I never actually saw it, but all I heard was horror stories |
| 06:42.48 | ls- | I liked squad more than bvs |
| 06:42.55 | kd3 | DC's just had a shit run with movies |
| 06:43.08 | kd3 | s/it/BvS/ |
| 06:43.17 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 06:43.19 | kd3 | damn it purl, do what I mean, not what I type |
| 06:43.49 | ls- | my problem with squad is that it's a movie about deadshot and quinn... |
| 06:44.46 | ls- | joker was there for trailers and pr, he's absent from movie :D |
| 06:45.02 | kd3 | and that subplot was pointless |
| 06:45.10 | ls- | yeah... |
| 06:46.59 | ls- | and I actually liked Leto's Joker, haha :D |
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| 06:53.30 | ls- | damn, starting a new char on a new realm is painful, having no money is bad :( |
| 06:55.38 | nebula | damit, i let like 50$ in meat spoil T.T rip steaks |
| 06:55.49 | Stanzilla | idyet |
| 06:56.10 | nebula | we were suppose to grill, but then it rained like all week |
| 06:56.58 | Stanzilla | we're grilling today! |
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| 07:33.22 | karl_w_w | I'll never understand the love of steaks, or of cooking outside |
| 07:42.19 | Stanzilla | kd3: the WTF IS THAT BULLSHITs per minute are pretty high. watching atm |
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| 07:53.29 | Cairenn | Have a good week all. |
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| 08:26.23 | Stanzilla | final verdict: Horrible |
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| 09:01.29 | Gnarfoz | nebula: henceforth, you shall be known as the spoiler of meat |
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| 10:59.45 | Gnarfoz | considering you have a cloak, I doubt you were |
| 11:04.39 | VIad | I'm prepared http://ss.bool.no/capture_1472382271.png |
| 11:06.21 | Gnarfoz | shame, ipv6 to EU wow server still goes across the atlantic and back >_< |
| 11:07.08 | VIad | kek? |
| 11:07.23 | VIad | sounds efficient |
| 11:07.45 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: you should have expected fixes to take a while |
| 11:07.52 | nevcairiel | last time it was what, like 6 month? |
| 11:07.53 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:07.56 | Gnarfoz | not really, tbh, that's fixable in minutes! :D |
| 11:08.07 | Gnarfoz | yeah it was a while last time |
| 11:08.43 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:09.40 | PhatsoTGT | Gnarfoz i was |
| 11:09.43 | PhatsoTGT | by freenode |
| 11:10.24 | PhatsoTGT | someone in my ISP node downloaded a discord bot from VKontakt and got us all flagged on a blocklist website Freenode uses |
| 11:18.41 | Gnarfoz | oh, you mean g-lined |
| 11:40.52 | VIad | sadly ubrs heroic and normal have the pile, but nothing happens :p except the cast works and the pile despawns, but the event script is probably not in the dungeon :d http://ss.bool.no/capture_1472384423.png |
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| 12:05.10 | PhatsoTGT | is there any reason my tooltip code bugs out when opening item links from other people and not when i post them? |
| 12:05.41 | PhatsoTGT | it seems to be having issues with GetItemQualityColor |
| 12:06.15 | PhatsoTGT | http://hastebin.com/gucunejinu.lua |
| 12:10.36 | ls- | check for itLink instead, if it's not cached it may be nil |
| 12:10.50 | ls- | it happens sometimes :p |
| 12:12.12 | PhatsoTGT | oh yeah that seems like a good idea |
| 12:14.15 | PhatsoTGT | oh i didnt even check if its nil initially did i? |
| 12:14.44 | PhatsoTGT | "if itName then" isnt the same "if itName ~= nil then" isnt it? |
| 12:15.10 | ls- | nah, just do if itLink then ... end |
| 12:15.55 | nevcairiel | in the first case nil and false would not run it, in the second only nil |
| 12:16.01 | nevcairiel | so its a small difference |
| 12:16.16 | PhatsoTGT | lol |
| 12:16.37 | PhatsoTGT | does weakauras do something with tooltips? |
| 12:16.37 | nevcairiel | but its easier to write the first form if you dont need to differentiate between the two |
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| 12:17.11 | PhatsoTGT | i disabled Weakauras because somehow it was mentioned in the lua error and now it doesnt even show the Color anymore |
| 12:17.47 | PhatsoTGT | before it was throwing lua errors but itd still show the correct border |
| 12:19.43 | znf | WeakAuras is flawless. |
| 12:20.32 | Stanzilla | good to kno |
| 12:20.33 | Stanzilla | w |
| 12:20.44 | ls- | haha :p |
| 12:22.31 | PhatsoTGT | huh |
| 12:22.32 | PhatsoTGT | weird |
| 12:23.25 | PhatsoTGT | sometimes clicking on ItemLinks triggers StyleItemTip twice and in the first run itemRarity seems to be nil |
| 12:24.05 | PhatsoTGT | so i should be good to go checking if itemRarity is nil before but still its weird that it does that |
| 12:25.07 | nevcairiel | maybe the item wasnt cached yet and it calls it again when it received item info from the server |
| 12:28.49 | PhatsoTGT | ye thats almost certainly whats happening because it only affects newly clicked items. but its weird that this triggers OnTooltipSetItem twice (thats what my function is hooked to) |
| 12:29.49 | nevcairiel | seems fine to me if its refreshed with more item info |
| 12:30.41 | jro | whats the call for looking at artifact skills/levels? |
| 12:35.20 | PhatsoTGT | is there any THE way to manipulate Minimap Icons from LibDBIcon ? |
| 12:36.39 | nebula | manipulate them how |
| 12:37.13 | PhatsoTGT | strip them from the minimap, make them Square and put them in a Box? |
| 12:38.14 | Gnarfoz | VIad: that heroic leap style thing in your BT video... is that something only tank DHs have? |
| 12:38.28 | nebula | Gnarfoz: yea, it's their fel rush |
| 12:38.30 | Gnarfoz | PhatsoTGT: uhm... use an LDB display, that's what LibDBIcon is for |
| 12:38.36 | VIad | I just double jump my way up |
| 12:38.39 | Gnarfoz | nebula: I see |
| 12:38.50 | Gnarfoz | VIad: that wasn't my question :P |
| 12:38.52 | VIad | maybe fel rush works too, it's a bit like a better blink that considers terrain |
| 12:38.59 | VIad | heroic leap should work perhaps |
| 12:39.16 | VIad | #swag http://ss.bool.no/capture_1472387950.png |
| 12:39.25 | Gnarfoz | it's HJUUGE |
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| 12:40.13 | VIad | :D |
| 12:40.57 | VIad | I need to escape http://ss.bool.no/capture_1472388053.png |
| 12:41.06 | VIad | wtb snake mount |
| 12:41.17 | VIad | can't jump but just snakes over things |
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| 12:42.58 | znf | why do you have an oversized pepe? |
| 12:43.29 | nebula | probably because he's tiny |
| 12:43.32 | PhatsoTGT | thats him begin Vlad Sized not Pepe being Phatso sized |
| 12:43.43 | VIad | :d |
| 12:43.50 | Gnarfoz | whole body shrinka |
| 12:43.54 | VIad | "Whole-Body Shrinka'" |
| 12:45.11 | znf | TUK: that's a actual item |
| 12:45.29 | znf | TIL* |
| 12:45.52 | nebula | it was from the pre wod event, you can buy it from a vendor |
| 12:45.53 | znf | Oh |
| 12:45.55 | znf | I need top get that |
| 12:46.54 | Gnarfoz | it was from patch 5.3, and it's now available again during legion pre event, so your time is running out :p |
| 12:47.20 | Gnarfoz | also, Horde only (not a problem for you) |
| 12:47.25 | VIad | can even buy the troll shoes |
| 12:47.38 | ls- | yeah, best tmog for dh :p |
| 12:47.43 | Gnarfoz | the whole vendor is a big troll |
| 12:48.36 | znf | now Temporarily During demon invasion event its available again from Ravika when you have taken To Be Prepared but will no longer be available when you comple the scenario following it. (like albinoette said in the comments below although he accidentaly linked the alliance quest instead) |
| 12:50.23 | VIad | I don't like such hidden limited things, dataminers failed us :( |
| 12:50.32 | VIad | I remember a post was made week after the fact :p |
| 12:50.42 | VIad | or, I found it on reddit first |
| 12:50.57 | nevcairiel | that particular info has been posted on wowhead like a day after the pre-event launched |
| 12:51.07 | nevcairiel | and you can always go through there with a second char to pickup the things |
| 12:51.17 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I was bitching it was horde-only basically the first day :P |
| 12:51.41 | nevcairiel | there is also a transmog item for alliance inside thje broken shore scenario |
| 12:51.56 | nevcairiel | or more pecisely, you pickup an item and get a transmog from an npc in elwynn |
| 12:51.56 | Gnarfoz | a white bonnet, whoop-de-fucking-doo |
| 12:51.57 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 12:52.21 | nevcairiel | those troll toys arent the most fascinating things either =p |
| 12:52.28 | Gnarfoz | they left out the best one |
| 12:52.42 | Gnarfoz | the LSD potion |
| 12:53.10 | ls- | lsd potion? O_o |
| 12:53.38 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/item=97921 |
| 12:54.59 | nevcairiel | was it horde only back in 5.3 as well? |
| 12:55.03 | nevcairiel | probably was, wasnt it |
| 12:56.40 | nevcairiel | i missed the entire event because i didnt play in that period |
| 12:57.45 | Stanzilla | because you were on your period? |
| 12:57.56 | VIad | wtb LSD toy |
| 12:57.59 | znf | so I need to actually start the invasion on another char |
| 12:58.19 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: should have been both factions back then |
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| 13:01.29 | PhatsoTGT | is there a tutorial sample LDB Display Addon ? |
| 13:02.16 | znf | yes |
| 13:02.28 | znf | https://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/wiki/api |
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| 13:14.44 | PhatsoTGT | http://i.imgur.com/UuUdteN.jpg |
| 13:15.10 | PhatsoTGT | the default Iterator delivers empty tables |
| 13:15.11 | PhatsoTGT | niec |
| 13:19.51 | nevcairiel | how do you measure if its "empty"? its probably a hash table, so if you do # then its just going to give you 0 :P |
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| 13:23.36 | PhatsoTGT | it is not empty.... hmmm |
| 13:24.35 | Neffi | have to iterate it to find its size |
| 13:25.20 | nevcairiel | the size of a hash table is a rather meaningless metric |
| 13:25.43 | PhatsoTGT | i just want it to show up on LuaBrowser lol |
| 13:25.49 | PhatsoTGT | that way programming is easier |
| 13:25.49 | Gnarfoz | I see someone (not quite) in your screenshot had trouble with what Tuesday, 00:01 means |
| 13:26.15 | PhatsoTGT | Tradechat being Tradechat |
| 13:26.28 | nevcairiel | that question comes up so often |
| 13:26.45 | PhatsoTGT | Pre-Patch DH Release Discrepancy was worse |
| 13:27.09 | PhatsoTGT | although some people still havent gotten when their Region has its reset |
| 13:27.18 | PhatsoTGT | i dont know how people dont know this |
| 13:27.25 | PhatsoTGT | thats how i schedule my life |
| 13:27.44 | nevcairiel | they changed the reset with 7.0 though |
| 13:27.51 | PhatsoTGT | they did? |
| 13:27.54 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 13:27.59 | Stanzilla | >[15:27:12] PhatsoTGT: i dont know how people dont know this |
| 13:27.59 | Gnarfoz | (it's also been showing in the in-game calendar for years) |
| 13:28.01 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 13:28.16 | PhatsoTGT | not 3am to 9am Wednesdays in EU anymore |
| 13:28.20 | nevcairiel | EU reset has been unified to 7:00 UTC on wednesdays |
| 13:28.46 | nevcairiel | so in summer thats 09:00 in CEST, and in winter 08:00 CET |
| 13:28.46 | PhatsoTGT | how do you mean Unified? |
| 13:29.00 | Gnarfoz | unified, you just listed what he means by that yourself |
| 13:29.03 | Gnarfoz | there's only one reset, not 3 |
| 13:29.05 | nevcairiel | unified in the sense that everything resets there now |
| 13:29.09 | Gnarfoz | (midnight, 3 am, 9am) |
| 13:29.15 | nevcairiel | dailies, raids, what have you |
| 13:29.18 | nevcairiel | all at 07:00 UTC |
| 13:29.21 | PhatsoTGT | ahh |
| 13:29.28 | PhatsoTGT | that was fun |
| 13:29.36 | Gnarfoz | some tradeskills used to do it at midnight, dailies at 3 am, dungeon locks at 9am |
| 13:29.48 | Gnarfoz | not to mention those also moved with DST |
| 13:29.50 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 13:30.01 | nevcairiel | well they were in local paris time back then |
| 13:30.04 | PhatsoTGT | when people bought a gazillions champions Honor and didnt know that the Season did reset 3 Hours before the Prepatch Downtime :D |
| 13:30.23 | nevcairiel | the new situation is arguably a bit more confusing with it switching between 8 and 9 between winter and summer |
| 13:30.29 | PhatsoTGT | there was one guy on our Server buying them in massive amounts |
| 13:30.42 | PhatsoTGT | nevcairiel brit? |
| 13:31.09 | nevcairiel | ? no |
| 13:31.50 | nevcairiel | the unified time is probably more important for US realms anyway with its plentyful timezones |
| 13:32.39 | Gnarfoz | it's still moving between 8 and 9 for us, though, nevcairiel :D |
| 13:33.01 | nevcairiel | but did it do that before? wasnt it always 9 for dungeon/raid? |
| 13:33.17 | Gnarfoz | 3 am moved to 4 am, not entirely sure about dungeons, but I think so |
| 13:33.17 | PhatsoTGT | nope |
| 13:33.31 | nevcairiel | if anythign it should have moved in summer to 4 |
| 13:33.36 | nevcairiel | and i'm pretty sure it was 3 during summer |
| 13:33.39 | Gnarfoz | it wasn't |
| 13:33.54 | nevcairiel | it was |
| 13:34.18 | Gnarfoz | then they fixed it, I remember well that it moved with DST |
| 13:34.28 | nevcairiel | the night before 7.0 release i was in-game at 3am because some guildies were speculating to get one more round of dailies in before the server shut down, and at 3 am the daily reset message came |
| 13:34.41 | nevcairiel | but the server also shut down 30 seconds later, so no luck with the plan =P |
| 13:35.02 | nevcairiel | (they were doing anglers for the water strider) |
| 13:35.25 | Gnarfoz | https://wow.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Daily_quest&oldid=3225221 |
| 13:35.32 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 13:35.50 | Gnarfoz | that's wrong, it lists "3 AM CEST (UTC+1)" which is a contradiction in itself :p |
| 13:36.06 | nevcairiel | probably written bny an american |
| 13:36.20 | nevcairiel | anyway now the rules are clarified |
| 13:36.26 | Gnarfoz | http://eu.battle.net/forums/de/wow/topic/3429855970#post-4 |
| 13:36.53 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it's clear now (and it moves, as before whenever it was apparently fixed) |
| 13:36.55 | ls- | everything resets at 9am server time rn |
| 13:36.58 | ls- | in EU |
| 13:37.20 | nevcairiel | that kind of line is what will spread mis-information again, because in a couple months its 8am |
| 13:37.24 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:37.31 | ls- | ugh... |
| 13:37.40 | nevcairiel | it resets at 07:00 UTC |
| 13:38.02 | nevcairiel | so convert to your timezone, including DST |
| 13:38.12 | nevcairiel | which means for most of europe, 9 in the summer, 8 in the winter |
| 13:39.02 | ls- | tbh, I just do _G.SecondsToTime(_G.GetQuestResetTime()) to get reset time :p |
| 13:39.21 | ls- | and show it in my quest micro button's tooltip :p |
| 13:39.55 | nevcairiel | tbh 9 am feels kinda "late", as you can easily be online before 9am and consider playing again, but the reset didnt happen yet so its a bit weird |
| 13:43.05 | ls- | ally players are lazy bastards, they don't farm dreadlords as much as horde does :( I need more toys on my fresh ally chars :( |
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| 14:21.33 | pompy | nevcairiel: reset is 11am local time for me, sucks. |
| 14:22.01 | nevcairiel | are you in eastern time? |
| 14:22.07 | pompy | yes |
| 14:22.25 | nevcairiel | not sure why they picked 7 as their baseline, tbh |
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| 15:23.40 | PhatsoTGT | theres no way of autosizing a region by its subregions right? |
| 15:24.06 | kullervo | does afk auto logoff save settings? |
| 15:25.49 | Thunder_Child | I think anything short of killing the process saves settings. |
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| 15:30.02 | karl_w_w | I used to find if I played exclusive fullscreen and was alt-tabbed when it auto logged off it wouldnt save |
| 15:37.25 | fewyn | i'm not sure if it does |
| 15:37.39 | fewyn | pretty sure it doesn't thop |
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| 16:04.38 | eindoofus | hi, i'm a bit new to WOW and haven't yet been in any raids. is crowd control a thing in WOW raids? and if so, what classes do it best? |
| 16:05.34 | eindoofus | been digging on the forums but it sounds like many classes have spells that touch on it, but i was wondering if there is any class that is identified with being good at crowd control |
| 16:09.13 | ls- | O_o that's a bit weird thing to ask here... but no, CC isn't really a thing in raids, cuz many mobs can be CCed |
| 16:09.36 | ls- | cc nowadays is for pvp and non-raid pve content :p |
| 16:13.01 | eindoofus | ah. so much for recreating my everquest enchanter days.. lol |
| 16:13.34 | eindoofus | and now everyone self heals so priest isn't that interesting in crowds either it seems |
| 16:16.26 | ls- | eh? not so many classes can self-heal in Legion.. |
| 16:18.14 | eindoofus | many i'll keep going with my priest. just did the lvl 100 upgrade but see no experience bar. do i have to wait till the 30th to start leveling up? |
| 16:18.17 | eindoofus | maybe* |
| 16:20.30 | ls- | yeah |
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| 16:44.06 | nevcairiel | just short of 30 hours for europe now, soon! |
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| 16:56.38 | Semlar | tries to calm europe down |
| 16:58.20 | mikma | *raging intensifies* |
| 17:16.46 | ls- | yeah boyyyyy :D |
| 17:17.09 | ls- | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeRoi43azds |
| 17:17.43 | VIad | the karazhan normal adventure in hearthstone is terribly easy |
| 17:18.00 | VIad | I am using my "lord and savior yogg" deck that I use to get to rank 20 each month |
| 17:18.11 | VIad | literally just spells and yogg randomness to beat these bosses :/ |
| 17:18.22 | VIad | I seriously hope at least heroic will force me to make some creative decks |
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| 17:53.39 | fewyn | so paladin tanking is kinda fun... at least in invasion leveling |
| 17:56.15 | PhatsoTGT | theres no way of creating a region given two regions right? |
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| 18:11.35 | Semlar | you ever come up with a solution to something that's obviously wrong but still works and don't feel like trying to figure out how to do it right |
| 18:11.48 | znf | yes |
| 18:11.59 | znf | basically how I write all my addons |
| 18:12.02 | Semlar | ship it |
| 18:31.07 | karl_w_w | there is no wrong |
| 18:31.17 | karl_w_w | only working and not working |
| 18:31.41 | karl_w_w | or, working and working as intended |
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| 18:41.08 | bshelden | shudders |
| 18:51.27 | fewyn | http://www.arewethere.yt/LEGION/42146.htm#.V8MyAlWANBc |
| 18:52.51 | bshelden | sighs |
| 18:53.03 | bshelden | I discover weakauras (yes, I'm late). And I immediately want more than it can give me |
| 18:53.37 | nevcairiel | maybe you should stick to Lua then, its really just a fancy wrapper around Lua =P |
| 18:54.20 | nevcairiel | so many people build complicated shit in it that should really just be an addon |
| 18:54.32 | bshelden | And there's the sigh |
| 18:54.38 | bshelden | I really really dislike Lua... |
| 18:54.46 | Sharparam | the majority of my weakauras things are just "if this buff, then show this texture" |
| 18:54.56 | nevcairiel | yeah its good for quick things like that |
| 18:55.07 | bshelden | I immediately found myself wanting nested groups. So I could have a button's cooldown, and time remaining |
| 18:55.16 | bshelden | All in a dynamic group |
| 18:56.22 | nevcairiel | why do you care about the cooldown while its still up, its too long to generally bother with it then |
| 18:57.05 | nevcairiel | because if you dont, then the default functionality can just do that :D |
| 18:57.11 | bshelden | Ok then, but that quickly leads to wanting to flip it. Have it change between time remaining if up, and cooldown if down. |
| 18:57.20 | bshelden | I think I can rig that... |
| 18:57.47 | nevcairiel | i should really put my cooldowns into a dynamic group so they look a bit nicer |
| 18:58.04 | bshelden | Wanting both makes the dynamic point moot, there there is that. |
| 18:59.19 | bshelden | Nope, back to lua |
| 19:12.08 | Andols | nevcairiel: I have a icon that I put on the Map with HBD. and when i zoom in on the map (scrollwheel) the icon moves :/ |
| 19:12.42 | nevcairiel | that usually happens when you use a map addon that changes the scale of the map |
| 19:12.49 | nevcairiel | that doesnt cooperate much with zooming |
| 19:13.47 | Andols | But I have other addons that put icons with HBD and they don't move :/ |
| 19:14.04 | nevcairiel | thats odd then :D |
| 19:14.09 | nevcairiel | maybe you parented the button wrong |
| 19:14.15 | nevcairiel | it should be parented to WorldMapButton |
| 19:15.19 | nevcairiel | or you are using :SetScale on the button |
| 19:15.23 | nevcairiel | because it wouldnt like that |
| 19:15.34 | nevcairiel | because SetScale also affects the SetPoint calls |
| 19:16.40 | Andols | the parent was the problem :) |
| 19:17.07 | nevcairiel | i should really finish the docs for the pin library |
| 19:17.10 | nevcairiel | but writing docs is no fun |
| 19:17.24 | nevcairiel | not sure it documents these limitations yet |
| 19:17.42 | Andols | No mention of WorldMapButton there :P |
| 19:19.05 | nevcairiel | minimap pins should be parented to Minimap, just to complete that set =p |
| 19:21.00 | Andols | I will try to rememver that if I'm going to use a Minimap icon :) |
| 19:27.50 | ccox | Wikipediaâs entry for Charlie Foxtrot, now includes a video of the Legion invasion boss fight I was just in. |
| 19:29.03 | nevcairiel | that usually happens when there is no tank or healer, because they hit way too hard for anything else to properly handle them |
| 19:29.13 | nevcairiel | needs a healed tank |
| 19:29.59 | ccox | That also happens when the tank spins the bossâs frontal attack to face the ranged dps, and puts the boss in the GY |
| 19:30.24 | fewyn | https://www.weakauras.online/en |
| 19:30.27 | fewyn | this website is hot |
| 19:31.07 | ccox | but the tank changed so often, Iâm sure it was incompetence and not a planned massacre |
| 19:33.13 | jnwhiteh | Last check before i book, anyone interested in sharing a room at Blizzon? |
| 19:33.42 | Ironii | depends, is there any benefits? |
| 19:33.54 | Fisker | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 19:34.16 | Thunder_Child | You mean other than a cheaper room? |
| 19:36.31 | Seerah | Other than rooming with a legend? |
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| 19:44.45 | Semlar | alright i think i finally figured out this 6th grade math foxlit was talking about |
| 19:45.02 | Thunder_Child | Yes, 1 + 1 does equal 2. |
| 19:45.27 | Semlar | although i think he was being disingenuous |
| 19:56.56 | jnwhiteh | Ironii: depends, send pictures |
| 19:57.01 | jnwhiteh | perhaps we can arrange something :P |
| 19:57.05 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: I'm shocked. Shocked! |
| 19:57.29 | jnwhiteh | I'm gonna stay slightly further away (18 minute walk instead of 10) to get a nicer hotel |
| 19:57.42 | nevcairiel | still fine walking distance |
| 19:57.46 | Gnarfoz | also, nothing else is available anymore at this juncture? :p |
| 20:01.22 | jnwhiteh | there's a bunch of stuff |
| 20:01.26 | jnwhiteh | just nothing cheap :P |
| 20:01.31 | jnwhiteh | this was $800 for 5 days |
| 20:07.52 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.33 | foxlit | including tax? |
| 20:15.51 | nevcairiel | i've seen flight path addons draw things like that Semlar, but not user movable obviously |
| 20:17.09 | nevcairiel | this one https://www.wowace.com/addons/handy-notes_flight-masters/ .. although it hasnt received data updates for a long time, but it can do the lines translation between zones and continents :D |
| 20:18.15 | Semlar | i do it in worldflightmap |
| 20:18.41 | Semlar | except all i did for that was set a point waaaaay off the side of the scroll frame to draw the line from |
| 20:18.52 | nevcairiel | i wish they would just port the legion flight map to all continents, that would be so much nicer out of the box |
| 20:19.10 | Semlar | instead of actually slicing the line to the edge of the zone |
| 20:19.18 | nevcairiel | i forget how that addon there worked |
| 20:19.27 | nevcairiel | not sure if it calculates and intercept point with the border |
| 20:20.27 | nevcairiel | it might, xinhuan was crazy with some of the math |
| 20:20.29 | Semlar | i was considering just drawing a really long line and rotating it from a point off the side of the scroll frame |
| 20:25.31 | Semlar | might even be more efficient |
| 20:32.40 | foxlit | Semlar, I was suggesting that you *state your problem* as if it was aimed at 6th grade math students. |
| 20:32.54 | Semlar | oic |
| 20:33.12 | nevcairiel | thats hard if Semlar doesnt know 6th grade math yet |
| 20:33.19 | Semlar | :( |
| 20:33.26 | foxlit | i.e. systematiacally identify known variables and what you actually want to find. |
| 20:33.27 | Semlar | rub it in |
| 20:54.53 | Semlar | nevcairiel: it looks like they have a function in here to find the intersection of two line segments |
| 20:56.11 | Semlar | they also seem to be using coordinates in the form of 0-1 |
| 20:56.55 | Semlar | although they have a big scary database at the top of the file |
| 20:57.34 | VIad | hmm. why is legion coming out 13 hours before the US? |
| 20:57.53 | VIad | didn't expansions and patches come out 12 hours before for the US? because of the maintance times being earlier than EU |
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| 21:07.46 | PhatsoTGT | LibDatabroker doesnt provide blizzard ui map button objects right? |
| 21:08.29 | Sharparam | nope |
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| 21:23.29 | PhatsoTGT | :( |
| 21:23.43 | PhatsoTGT | anyone got a truncate function at hand? |
| 21:25.35 | kd3 | bleh. you never think about how dirty your place is until you're trying to bring someone new over. not that I'm a slob, but I've been scrubbing for 2 hours now |
| 21:35.21 | Andols | nevcairiel: Dosn't HBD pins work in battlegrounds? |
| 21:35.40 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 21:35.43 | nevcairiel | they should, i gues |
| 21:35.46 | nevcairiel | +s |
| 21:45.47 | Andols | hmm, maybe I'm doing something wrong. Trying more tomorrow :) |
| 21:46.12 | fewyn | that was a huge amount of effort... i hope it was worth it. i made some gnocchi and a pesto sauce from scratch |
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| 23:06.11 | LexSfX | nevcairiel: mapster option to disable maximize button a possibility? |
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| 23:58.20 | Semlar | neffi do i have to worry about hurricanes |
