| 00:02.09 | Simca | re: your conversation a couple hours ago about localized formatted strings |
| 00:02.20 | Simca | blizzard actually removed several of them in Legion but still uses them |
| 00:02.39 | Simca | which means you can't make them work universally now |
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| 00:03.15 | Simca | i had to hardcode english localized strings into WoWDBProfiler after they removed them |
| 00:03.44 | Jagscorpion | so the variables I declare at the top aren't being read lower in the function? |
| 00:20.27 | Hazal | ~framexml |
| 00:20.27 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
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| 00:26.01 | Simca | also the breaking news about deleting the cache folder is just sad |
| 00:26.21 | Simca | i've poked them multiple times about what the exact bug is but they'd rather have people crash i guess |
| 00:27.31 | Xuerian | Simca: what the everloving monkeypoo. They took _in use_ strings out of globalstrings? |
| 00:27.46 | Simca | yes |
| 00:27.52 | Xuerian | .... |
| 00:27.56 | Xuerian | Moving on |
| 00:27.58 | Xuerian | What crashes? |
| 00:28.33 | Simca | if you have hotfixes in your cache that conflicts with a new build's static data, the game will crash |
| 00:29.02 | Simca | the system for preventing that from happening does so by deleting any ADB files with an old buildID |
| 00:29.12 | Simca | but it is broken, and the buildID is always reported as 22201 |
| 00:29.29 | Xuerian | Seems like a pretty easy fix |
| 00:29.31 | Simca | so the adbs are never considered old, never deleted, and crash the game |
| 00:30.31 | Simca | +local ERR_QUEST_REWARD_ITEM_MULT_IS = _G.ERR_QUEST_REWARD_ITEM_MULT_IS or "Received %d of item: %s." |
| 00:30.31 | Simca | +local ERR_QUEST_REWARD_ITEM_S = _G.ERR_QUEST_REWARD_ITEM_S or "Received item: %s." |
| 00:30.35 | Simca | i had to do this |
| 00:31.18 | Xuerian | ERR? Where are those used? |
| 00:31.39 | Simca | i have no idea why they have the ERR prefix, those are typically error messages when you do something wrong |
| 00:31.49 | Simca | but in this case, they are used whenever you receive an item |
| 00:32.06 | Simca | so they're slightly important |
| 00:32.17 | Simca | (from a quest*) |
| 00:33.23 | foxlit | how does the client use a format string which doesn't exist? |
| 00:33.46 | Simca | i have no idea |
| 00:34.16 | Simca | i searched _G for a new name matching that string |
| 00:34.28 | Simca | but found nothing, and afaik the string still works for parsing |
| 00:35.57 | Xuerian | oh |
| 00:35.59 | Xuerian | sonofa |
| 00:36.07 | Xuerian | that means I have to do that too |
| 00:36.11 | Xuerian | CURSES |
| 00:37.25 | Xuerian | YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE BLIZZ, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE LOOT EVENTS BETTER |
| 00:37.26 | Xuerian | NOT WORSE |
| 00:37.58 | Thunder_Child | I'm not positive, but you sound miffed. |
| 00:38.03 | Simca | lol what loot events |
| 00:38.11 | Xuerian | interesting fact C_LootHistory doesn't work on items on the client that opened a chest |
| 00:38.28 | Simca | only specific 'chests' i wager |
| 00:38.35 | Simca | because those chests aren't chests |
| 00:38.55 | Simca | the majority of the important item containers now distribute their loot through 'magic' |
| 00:38.55 | Xuerian | The normal 'chests' that spawn in places like RFK/D do it, the chest in BRD does it |
| 00:39.20 | Simca | there are no loot events, you have to read chat messages |
| 00:39.26 | Xuerian | THAT |
| 00:39.28 | Xuerian | IS THE JOKE |
| 00:40.06 | Simca | for what it's worth, i figured out that they all have a bit flag in common |
| 00:40.24 | Simca | so you can populate manual lists of itemIDs that will be magical containers |
| 00:40.40 | Simca | and watch for a user to interact with an inventory slot containing an item with that ID |
| 00:41.13 | Xuerian | Well, that's helpful, but the issue shows up when I track who rolled on what on my roll frames and that doesn't work when you're the chest opener. People think their rolls don't work and blame me, when someone else in the group can verify that it works through /loot, when the opener's /loot shows no info for those items |
| 00:41.37 | Xuerian | Thankfully like you say chests are fairly uncommon and/or magical at this point |
| 00:42.37 | Simca | hopefully in 8.0, there isn't a massive UI overhaul and we can get some QoL fixes for this |
| 00:43.25 | Xuerian | Would be neat. I'm sure there's plenty worse issues that need it too, despite my rants |
| 00:43.42 | Xuerian | Like, you know. Client crashes. |
| 00:44.01 | Xuerian | Including the one that calling C_TalkingHead.GetCurrentLineInfo() too many times in the same frame (I think) can cause. |
| 00:44.43 | foxlit | Simca: fwiw, I get 'You receive item: [link].' as the quest completion item loot message. |
| 00:45.08 | Simca | so maybe they changed it and renamed it simultaneously? |
| 00:45.16 | foxlit | which is LOOT_ITEM_PUSHED_SELF, and there's also LOOT_ITEM_PUSHED_SELF_MULTIPLE |
| 00:45.27 | Simca | but but but but but but but |
| 00:45.29 | foxlit | also QUEST_LOT_RECEIVED(itemid, link, quantity) |
| 00:45.42 | foxlit | (without the obvious typo) |
| 00:46.07 | Simca | that is the same message as non-quest loot |
| 00:46.20 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 00:46.23 | Simca | so i can't detect and filter out quest completions |
| 00:46.27 | Simca | awful |
| 00:46.34 | foxlit | use QUEST_LOOT_RECEIVED? |
| 00:47.07 | Simca | and try to assume that that will happen before the chat message? |
| 00:47.16 | Simca | sounds incredibly fragile |
| 00:47.21 | Xuerian | What, you don't want to buffer your event handlers? |
| 00:47.27 | Xuerian | Are you some kind of heathen? |
| 00:48.11 | Xuerian | You can't just go around expecting things like LOOT_ITEM* to show up reliably either before or after the item is added to your inventory total |
| 00:48.16 | Xuerian | That would be madness, madness I say! |
| 00:48.32 | foxlit | Maybe try to test things. |
| 00:48.33 | foxlit | Dunno. |
| 00:49.22 | Seerah | psh - we don't test things around here |
| 00:49.38 | Simca | i'll use it as an excuse to level my demon hunter |
| 00:49.42 | Simca | "i'm testing things" |
| 00:50.30 | foxlit | beats pattern matching against a format string which doesn't appear to exist in the client :) |
| 00:51.04 | foxlit | hm, maybe I should buy the expansion. |
| 00:51.11 | Jagscorpion | gah, this is infuriating, my code is always returning else no matter what spec |
| 00:51.22 | Jagscorpion | even though the individual arguments all return true :( |
| 00:51.37 | Jagscorpion | I must not understand "and" |
| 00:51.51 | Xuerian | If you're trying to use terinary operators in lua |
| 00:51.55 | Xuerian | You're probably gonna have a bad time |
| 00:52.04 | Xuerian | ternary? |
| 00:52.06 | Xuerian | whatever. |
| 00:52.26 | Jagscorpion | if I could write andif |
| 00:52.28 | Jagscorpion | that would be nice |
| 00:52.56 | nevcairiel | If a and B then ... Requires that both a and B are true |
| 00:53.06 | Jagscorpion | which should be true here |
| 00:53.06 | Jagscorpion | http://hastebin.com/yogemuxino.coffee |
| 00:53.18 | Jagscorpion | on the correct character, in the correct spec |
| 00:53.20 | Jagscorpion | still returns else |
| 00:53.37 | Jagscorpion | I even did a print of all the individual conditions |
| 00:53.40 | Jagscorpion | in game |
| 00:53.42 | Simca | event order: ITEM_PUSH, SOCIAL_ITEM_RECEIVED, CHAT_MSG_LOOT, BAG_NEW_ITEMS_UPDATED, QUEST_LOOT_RECEIVED |
| 00:53.43 | Jagscorpion | they are all correct |
| 00:53.46 | Simca | sigh |
| 00:54.24 | nevcairiel | Maybe the spec is a number, and not a string of a number? |
| 00:54.31 | Simca | yep |
| 00:54.32 | Jagscorpion | I thought it returned strings |
| 00:54.48 | Jagscorpion | if that fixes it I will be happy and sad |
| 00:54.59 | Simca | it would never return strings of a number as an official api function |
| 00:55.18 | Simca | if it returns strings, they're probably spec names |
| 00:55.25 | Xuerian | Wait. SOCIAL_ITEM_RECEIVED? :| |
| 00:55.30 | nevcairiel | Never say never, blizz stuff be inconsistent yo |
| 00:55.47 | foxlit | Tell your twitters all about your epic loot |
| 00:56.17 | Jagscorpion | that's probably what causes it to print something to the chatframe right? |
| 00:56.19 | Jagscorpion | or gchat? |
| 00:56.52 | Xuerian | Going to assume foxlit is right, matches the "when stuff gets improved" MO |
| 00:56.56 | Jagscorpion | and also that fixed it |
| 00:56.58 | Jagscorpion | grr |
| 00:57.12 | Simca | probably for the guild news page |
| 00:57.14 | Jagscorpion | I could swear I read it directly from one of the api websites that it returned strings :( |
| 00:57.28 | Simca | maybe it did once |
| 00:58.04 | Jagscorpion | can you say spec == 1 or 2, or do you have to write out the full name |
| 00:58.15 | Jagscorpion | so spec == 1 or spec == 2 |
| 00:58.16 | nevcairiel | Have to write it out |
| 00:58.19 | Jagscorpion | bummer |
| 00:58.34 | Jagscorpion | and you can only do 2 choices with or right? |
| 00:58.55 | nevcairiel | As many as you want |
| 00:58.59 | Jagscorpion | ooh |
| 00:59.01 | nevcairiel | (or need) |
| 01:01.20 | Trela | "Why is my speed test so slow..." *Watching YouTube videos while doing speed tests.* |
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| 01:19.00 | TheDanW | Simca: QUEST_LOOT_RECEIVED is always triggered after the quest completion, it make take several frames as it waits for the db transaction to finalize, where quest completion is "immediate" |
| 01:19.16 | TheDanW | thats the same event that triggers the you received text in chat |
| 01:19.39 | TheDanW | the old system didn't properly take into account items upgraded via bonus lists (warforged etc) |
| 01:19.58 | TheDanW | so i stripped it out, thats why the global strings were renamed |
| 01:20.17 | Simca | gotcha |
| 01:20.40 | Simca | most of the pain with the chat text is from trying to figure what was contained in items that distribute their loot 'magically' without a loot window |
| 01:20.54 | Simca | since you get 0 information via api/events except CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM |
| 01:21.02 | Simca | err CHAT_MSG_LOOT* |
| 01:21.13 | Xuerian | cough |
| 01:21.24 | Xuerian | itwouldbegreatifwegotreallootevents |
| 01:22.00 | Simca | you would be amazed at the kind of hacky workarounds that have to take place in order to record drops from those containers |
| 01:22.12 | TheDanW | yeah, i've been pushing for making C -> Lua process for these sorts of things as less of a "Lua do this now" to "Lua this thing just happened, here's the context info" and letting Lua choose how/if to display |
| 01:22.39 | Xuerian | That would be pretty awesome. |
| 01:24.12 | Xuerian | Appreciate you advocating it :D |
| 01:24.29 | TheDanW | i used to be an addon author too :) |
| 01:24.38 | Xuerian | So out of curiosity and not to disparage anyone on either side, is it a "Engine team" vs "UI team" sort of deal going on, or something else? |
| 01:25.42 | TheDanW | it's more that ~15 years ago someone decided to do it one way, probably made sense at the time, and most people followed that pattern |
| 01:26.58 | mischanix | NETWORK_PACKET_RECEIVED event? :D |
| 01:27.02 | Xuerian | Huh. Interesting to see how ex-blizz people did their next systems with things like Firefall (Isolated addons with psuedo-IPC and tables for every function call, yet webframe access) |
| 01:27.18 | Xuerian | RPC* |
| 01:27.55 | Xuerian | RIP Firefall. |
| 01:27.59 | Xuerian | EVERYTHING I LIKE DIES |
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| 01:33.21 | Thunder_Child | Well then I hope you don't like anyone here. |
| 01:33.29 | Xuerian | Nah you're fine |
| 01:33.40 | Xuerian | :3 |
| 01:33.45 | Thunder_Child | As I suspected. |
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| 01:49.05 | bshelden | Unexpected interactions. I can |
| 01:49.14 | bshelden | I can't attune for Nightbane because of Dalaran overhead |
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| 02:26.12 | Simca | oh, TheDanW, one thing - can you make UnitPosition still work for enemy targets in instances, please? |
| 02:27.13 | Simca | no advantage or chance of exploit there, and without it, it would completely wreck database sites' ability to record NPC positions in instances |
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| 02:40.45 | Guill | Simca: Wait, what? UnitPosition has only ever worked for yourself and your party/raid members+pets. |
| 02:40.58 | Simca | hm |
| 02:41.06 | Simca | let me clarify what function i am thinking of |
| 02:41.33 | Guill | People will still be able to get unit positions from combat logs. Getting the position at the time the unit first engages should be enough for database sites. |
| 02:42.12 | Simca | yeah, but parsing combat logs was never part of wowhead or wowdb before |
| 02:42.17 | Simca | so that's pretty rough |
| 02:42.38 | Simca | yeah i guess we just check interact distance currently and then record the mob's position by using the player's position |
| 02:44.38 | Simca | also object positions in instances will be impossible since the only method of getting those was recording player position during interaction with the object |
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| 02:50.30 | Simca | objects are not nearly as important, we can probably live without them, and api data on them could possibly be exploitable in some bizarre circumstance |
| 02:50.39 | Guill | Simca: I'd have to think about what a good way to give that information without exposing any holes would be. Don't know that there are any solutions doable in the 7.1 timeframe. |
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| 02:50.52 | Simca | but an 'UnitEnemyPosition' would be amazing |
| 02:51.09 | Guill | Simca: We very intentionally have never given a way to get enemy positions. |
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| 16:06.38 | Semlar | i assume the author is the one who made thist post http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54278 |
| 16:07.37 | Semlar | there were in here asking about something but i don't think they used that name and i don't know what their addon is called |
| 16:10.27 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.39 | fewyn | that is probably exactly it |
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| 16:45.52 | Ammako | i'm so terrible at names it takes me forever making characters |
| 16:47.47 | ls- | never had this problem :p I always give my chars either really obvious names or quite ones :D |
| 16:48.02 | ls- | i'm too tired.. |
| 16:48.05 | ls- | cute ones* |
| 16:48.10 | Ammako | I'm Ammako |
| 16:48.20 | ls- | too much Chinese in my life these days T_T |
| 16:48.36 | ls- | I'll be speaking Chinglish soon :p |
| 16:49.43 | Ammako | omg bald draenei |
| 16:50.12 | ls- | haha |
| 16:50.31 | Ammako | http://i.imgur.com/e2YvqNJ.png |
| 16:51.11 | Ammako | not used to seeing them have such a small head |
| 16:51.47 | ls- | for female characters I use names like conejita, cabrita, azucarita :D depends on race... |
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| 16:57.00 | EvilBit | hey folks, the help i got here yesterday was huge and i've got the first version of my add-on up and running |
| 16:57.07 | Ammako | nice grats |
| 16:57.32 | EvilBit | so today i have less of a syntax issue and more of a semantic question regarding http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemID |
| 16:58.05 | EvilBit | the wowprogramming page has a note that's different from the wowpedia page (http://wow.gamepedia.com/API_GetInventoryItemID) |
| 16:58.46 | EvilBit | the thing about xmog'ing an item |
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| 17:01.48 | Ammako | odd |
| 17:02.44 | Ammako | i did it with "ChestSlot" and it returned the item id for my waist? |
| 17:04.04 | Ammako | hmm well with GetInventoryslotInfo it seems to work ok, returns the base item and not the transmogged look |
| 17:04.09 | mfgmfg2 | documentation gets out of date |
| 17:04.19 | mfgmfg2 | or sometimes is just plain wrong |
| 17:04.51 | Ammako | turns out I was using the function wrong the first time around but the it makes me curious to know why it returned info about my belt instead of erroring out haha |
| 17:12.07 | EvilBit | at the moment i'm actually less concerned with the item ID itself (for the moment...) and rather just making sure that the item quality value stays the same |
| 17:12.50 | EvilBit | i'm kind of at work but hopefully over the weekend i'll be able to pull aside a friend of mine who has the beta to let me know if a transmogged artifact still returns artifact quality if i do something to the effect of GetInventoryItemID("player", GetInventorySlotInfo("MainHandSlot")) |
| 17:13.28 | EvilBit | i was just curious if any of you had run into that or knew how to untangle that particular bit of information on the wowprogramming documentation. like i said, wowpedia has no such mention of the "bug" |
| 17:14.18 | EvilBit | but @Ammako i'll look into trying it with just GetInventorySlotInfo without GetInventoryItemID |
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| 17:15.42 | Ammako | is the function meant to return quality in some way? |
| 17:16.28 | Ammako | unless you're using another one that does. GetInventoryItemID returns item id and i dont think anything else |
| 17:22.41 | EvilBit | i'm using http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemInfo for item quality. I pass it the ItemID which i was capturing using that combination of GetInventoryItemID with GetInventorySlotInfo |
| 17:23.11 | EvilBit | i think what i can do is just use GetInventoryslotInfo to grab the base item id, skip the GetItemID() step and send it straight to GetItemInfo |
| 17:23.17 | Ammako | ah well i'd assume as long as it has the correct item id, GetItemInfo would return the right quality |
| 17:23.33 | ls- | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5oA5QfNqfs noice :p |
| 17:23.54 | Ammako | or at least i tried with my staff, heirloom with transmog over it, then tried with a newly made non-mogged heirloom and it returned the same id |
| 17:24.06 | EvilBit | yeah that's perfect for me |
| 17:24.17 | Ammako | although it still doesn't hurt to test it on beta just to make 100% sure :p |
| 17:24.30 | EvilBit | it's not something i had originally anticipated to be an issue until i was reading the documentation and thought "well that's weird..." |
| 17:24.55 | EvilBit | especially because that message wasn't included on wowpedia, haha |
| 17:25.07 | EvilBit | also because it had some spelling mistakes, too |
| 17:25.25 | Ammako | yeah always good to try things out and see exactly what you get from them |
| 17:25.50 | EvilBit | yup, agreed. just can't do that on my work laptop :P |
| 17:28.11 | Ammako | now if there was a function that would give me good character names... that would be great |
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| 17:32.07 | ls- | go to PTR and hit randomise name button few times :p |
| 17:32.34 | Ammako | can set Portal cvar to US |
| 17:33.34 | Ammako | randomize button doesn,t give good characters names though, hehe |
| 17:35.49 | Ammako | huh, Amahnko |
| 17:40.45 | ls- | manko is pussy in japanese :p |
| 17:41.03 | Ammako | good to know |
| 17:41.45 | ls- | I said it cuz of "Amahnko" a-manko, sorry.. |
| 17:42.37 | Ammako | kinda interesting that the random name generator generated something that looked so close to Ammako though |
| 17:42.56 | Ammako | but i didnt like the way it sounds so i didnt go with it |
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| 18:25.17 | fewyn | ew |
| 18:25.21 | fewyn | facebook streaming |
| 18:25.28 | fewyn | just got pushed to the bnet client |
| 18:25.39 | fewyn | (you can disable it in settings) |
| 18:32.24 | znf | totally have to stream everything I play! |
| 18:32.27 | znf | especially on facebook! :o |
| 18:33.05 | znf | ...it's not live in Europe |
| 18:33.49 | Ammako | is there an api function that gets the target of an unit |
| 18:35.18 | VIad | did they fix twitter? |
| 18:38.10 | VIad | apparently not |
| 18:40.59 | Yoshimo | what is blizzard doing with these constant battle.net updates? It isn't a game that needs hotfixes and new content |
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| 18:44.02 | Ammako | at least im glad we can disable it and completely hide the thing |
| 18:44.18 | Ammako | and at least it looks better than the huge green button next to Play like there was on the first screenshots lo |
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| 19:01.02 | Guill | Ammako: Depends on what you mean by "gets the target of a unit". You can append "target" to some other token and get a valid token. e.g. UnitName("party2target") will be the target of your second party member. |
| 19:06.25 | Ammako | thinking more of something that could with by giving the unit itself as a parameter rather than an unit id |
| 19:07.21 | Ammako | like working with nameplates, you can get the unit associated with the nameplate but it wont have a specific unit id string associated to it, just frame.unit |
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| 19:26.21 | VIad | you mean like if you already have the nameplate frame, it should have some attribute to give "nameplate#" |
| 19:29.05 | Guill | Not sure I really understand what you're asking for. If you want a unique identifier, UnitGUID("nameplate2") will get you one. It's intentional that you can't take any actions/get any information about units that don't have tokens though. |
| 19:29.39 | VIad | foxlit: I saw the "Toy slices which are not currently usable (due to a non-cooldown condition) no longer appear in OPie rings." earlier today but C_ToyBox.IsToyUsable is never called in the code. what does this change actually do then? |
| 19:31.19 | Ammako | gotcha |
| 19:31.42 | Ammako | i couldnt find anything so i figured there wasn't anything for it but i figured it doesnt hurt to ask |
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| 20:18.19 | karl_w_w | i think that businesses shouldn't be allowed misuse the word free |
| 20:20.10 | karl_w_w | if you are selling something and including something else as part of that, its not free |
| 20:25.37 | Ammako | depends on how you see it |
| 20:26.46 | Ammako | but it's true they use that as a way to entice people into buying stuff they wouldnt otherwise have bought |
| 20:29.18 | znf | free dog leash when you buy this yacht! |
| 20:31.06 | Ammako | lol |
| 20:31.44 | Thunder_Child | Hes, but if the yacht costs the same regardless of if you get the leash or not, then technically it is free to the consumer. |
| 20:31.53 | Thunder_Child | s/Hes/Yes/ |
| 20:31.57 | Ssateneth | This whole nameplate unit ID shenanigans.. so basically any visible nameplate out in the field has an associated unit ID yeah? |
| 20:32.33 | Ssateneth | I almost feel like you could automatically detect how many mobs are within AOE range of you using this nameplate stuff |
| 20:33.10 | Ssateneth | I dont know how high the nameplate #wowuidev goes |
| 20:35.06 | Semlar | you can try |
| 20:35.54 | Ssateneth | But something like aoetargets = 0 for i=1,40 do if UnitExists("nameplate" .. i) and IsSpellInRange([some 8 yard range spell here],"nameplate" .. i)==1 then aoetargets = aoetargets + 1 end |
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| 20:36.06 | Ssateneth | presto chango |
| 20:36.21 | Ssateneth | you know exactly how many things you will hit with somethign like thunderclap |
| 20:36.54 | Ssateneth | Intimidating Shout is 8 yards |
| 20:37.01 | Ssateneth | so now you know how many things whirlwind will hit |
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| 20:46.13 | mfgmfg2 | Ssateneth, that isn't going to work with blade flurry is it? |
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| 20:52.23 | Ssateneth | Well there is no crafty things I know of that can determine if you are facing an enemy |
| 20:53.08 | Ssateneth | And this only works if you want to determine how many things are around -you- and not some other unit |
| 20:54.39 | Ssateneth | But assuming it only hits things in melee range and assuming you are facing all the enemies, you can check a melee range ability to count how many possible BF candidates there are |
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| 21:13.07 | mckenziemc | https://deals.gdgt.com/sales/self-stirring-camera-lens-mug o.O |
| 21:14.49 | Ssateneth | base is too small |
| 21:14.52 | Ssateneth | looks prone to tipping |
| 21:40.15 | Seerah | Torhal: how can an addon know when ARL_MainPanel has been created? I see miirGui sets an OnUpdate and waits for it. |
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| 22:25.55 | Propheus | Where can i find the most current information about Addon-development? Any up-to-date tutorials someplace? (Where should a fresh developer start?) |
| 22:34.10 | Neffi | wowpedia.org, wowprogramming.com |
| 22:34.26 | Neffi | read through some existing addons to see how some things are achieved |
| 22:34.32 | Neffi | read through existing default UI code |
| 22:34.47 | nevcairiel | I don't think any tutorials are super up to date, but most basic tutorials should still be fine, the fundamentals didn't really change |
| 22:35.06 | Neffi | yeah the how tos probably need love |
| 22:35.55 | Neffi | Propheus: learning Lua is a big step. WoW uses (a slight deviation from) 5.1 |
| 22:36.36 | Neffi | you can find the manual, and links to the recommended textbook Programming in Lua, at lua.org |
| 22:37.45 | nevcairiel | Did they ever update the free version of PiL or is that still for 5.0? |
| 22:37.47 | Propheus | I was more looking for documentation to wow-specifically. What functions are available, XML-documentation, etx |
| 22:37.55 | Neffi | still 5.0 |
| 22:38.11 | Neffi | wowpedia.org has a community maintained API doc |
| 22:38.16 | Neffi | its pretty co.prehensile |
| 22:38.19 | Propheus | and hopefully tutorials on "simple stuff" like whats the correct way on implementing custom assets |
| 22:38.20 | Neffi | comprehensive |
| 22:38.30 | Neffi | see the UI portal |
| 22:39.08 | nevcairiel | Wowpedia and wowprogramming probably have the only proper resources for functions and XML stuff, but both are user maintained so they tend to get out of date or incomplete |
| 22:39.33 | Propheus | wowprogramming is way utdated though |
| 22:39.48 | Neffi | you can get the sources for the default UI and grep for undocumented api to see how blizzard uses it |
| 22:39.54 | Semlar | most of the xml definitions are in ui.xsd |
| 22:40.02 | Neffi | most of the important stuff is documented |
| 22:40.36 | nevcairiel | I tend to like the XML/Widget docs on wowprogramming better, wowpedia is a bit hard to find things |
| 22:40.37 | Neffi | I think foxlit's framexml mirror is nicely searchable |
| 22:40.58 | Neffi | ~framexml |
| 22:40.58 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
| 22:41.05 | Propheus | I'm still kinda disappointed that there is no (community or not) documentation on the same format as most other documentations are. Wiki is kinda outdates as well |
| 22:41.06 | Semlar | no, it sucks for searching |
| 22:41.07 | Neffi | see the last link |
| 22:41.16 | Semlar | i have to use a github mirror every time i want to search for anything |
| 22:41.27 | nevcairiel | You are welcome to contribute some. :) |
| 22:41.33 | Neffi | Propheus: wiki is best we got. api is massive. community doc is hard to maintain |
| 22:41.39 | Neffi | but please assist! |
| 22:41.47 | nevcairiel | I keep a local copy because GitHub search is also kinda terrible |
| 22:42.00 | Propheus | Neffi: A Markdown-formatted github-repo wouldnt be that hard to maintain |
| 22:42.10 | Neffi | and the benefit over a wiki? |
| 22:42.26 | Propheus | And i really would love to contribute, but the treshold to get into addon-development feels way to hight |
| 22:42.32 | mckenziemc | maintain as in documenting new functions or changes |
| 22:42.37 | Neffi | its not very high really |
| 22:42.38 | Semlar | foxlit's search box just searches function names and stuff |
| 22:42.42 | Propheus | Neffi: ctrl+f searchable |
| 22:42.44 | nevcairiel | It's not about hard to use a particular technology, but hard as in that we have no clue what blizzard changes and just have to figure it out |
| 22:42.45 | Neffi | download some small, simple addon and poke the code |
| 22:42.48 | Propheus | Neffi: no ads |
| 22:42.51 | Neffi | that's how most learn I think |
| 22:43.09 | nevcairiel | And it's a lot of work |
| 22:43.37 | Propheus | Like i have this small addon i want to make. (Mostly a redo of the social-tab) but i am struggling with simple things as how i use my own blp-files |
| 22:43.49 | Neffi | I can just imagine how many users would constantly submit broken markdown to such a repo |
| 22:44.07 | Neffi | or how many PRs would go unanswered for weeks because who wants to go through that? |
| 22:44.13 | Neffi | a repo is for code |
| 22:44.20 | nevcairiel | Custom files aren't that hard, make sure stuff is mod2 dimensions and put it into your add-on dir |
| 22:44.39 | nevcairiel | can also use tga, often easier |
| 22:44.47 | Neffi | Propheus: wow supports TGA |
| 22:44.53 | Neffi | unfortunately not PNG! |
| 22:44.58 | Neffi | or does it now? |
| 22:45.00 | Semlar | it uses pngs internally |
| 22:45.08 | Neffi | hence the ! |
| 22:45.11 | nevcairiel | PNG support is a bit weird |
| 22:45.20 | nevcairiel | It's like half there |
| 22:45.25 | Neffi | yeah :/ |
| 22:45.29 | Semlar | or at least they're called PNGs, i have no idea if they really are |
| 22:45.30 | Propheus | My problem is that when i add it in the XML-file, it wont load. (Only get green image) |
| 22:45.30 | Neffi | guess it hasn't changed since I quit |
| 22:45.40 | nevcairiel | Is it mod2? |
| 22:45.47 | Neffi | Proditor: the wiki page on textures is very relevant |
| 22:45.54 | Neffi | and helpful |
| 22:45.59 | Propheus | It's a PNG converted to blp with an program found at wowinterface |
| 22:46.03 | Guill | Propheus: Can you post that snippet of your XML along with the directory structure to the texture? Might be something easy we can point out. |
| 22:46.09 | Semlar | its dimensions have to be a power of 2 |
| 22:46.12 | nevcairiel | That part is probably documented properly somewhere |
| 22:46.42 | Guill | Also, I would use TGA instead of BLP. Not every BLP converter is entirely compatible with WoW's parser. |
| 22:46.46 | nevcairiel | Most common issues: not mod2, didn't restart game after adding it |
| 22:46.53 | Semlar | wrong path |
| 22:47.25 | nevcairiel | Also when I say mod2 I mean power of 2 |
| 22:47.36 | Propheus | i've restarted multiple times, as i read that new files needs a restart to be loaded. mod2 however might be the problem |
| 22:47.56 | nevcairiel | Guill should totally implement npot textures bow that ancient GPUs got dropped |
| 22:48.12 | nevcairiel | s/bow/now/ |
| 22:48.30 | Guill | nevcairiel: That's a good idea. I'll add a task, though I have no idea when it'll get done. |
| 22:48.59 | nevcairiel | It's not really that important, it's just a nice to have |
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| 22:54.37 | Propheus | CHanged the resolution to a power of 2. Still green texture. Here is the code: http://pastebin.com/Km59wmvv |
| 23:04.15 | MiR4i | Propheus: I don't know the code, but a "power of 2" is 2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512, and maybe 1024 if WoW accepts that |
| 23:04.40 | Propheus | MiR4i: Image is 512x512 |
| 23:04.43 | MiR4i | but your image needs to be that size |
| 23:04.44 | MiR4i | gotcha |
| 23:05.34 | Propheus | But what is correct filepath usage? |
| 23:16.05 | Semlar | i don't know if i'd start with xml |
| 23:16.30 | Semlar | if you have a syntax error it won't load and won't give any indication in-game that there's an error |
| 23:17.05 | nevcairiel | It logs them to a file though |
| 23:17.27 | nevcairiel | Unfortunately that one is kinda spammy from the base UI |
| 23:17.29 | Semlar | it's about ten times more frustrating to code with |
| 23:17.42 | nevcairiel | Yeah I don't use XML much either |
| 23:18.48 | nevcairiel | I would really be curious to see what kinds of design tools blizzard has to build XML UI |
| 23:19.02 | Semlar | his issue is probably that the backslashes in his file path aren't escaped |
| 23:19.28 | nevcairiel | I was wondering about that, but it seems odd that you would need that in XML? But idk |
| 23:19.42 | Semlar | i just use forward slashes so i don't have to remember what works where |
| 23:19.48 | nevcairiel | Check another file and see if it's escaped there |
| 23:21.06 | Propheus | The backlashes are used in all examples at wowpedia. |
| 23:21.26 | nevcairiel | Looks like XML shouldn't need escapes there |
| 23:21.28 | Propheus | However it solved itselv. Either it was me removing the png-file with the same name, or the full restart of the PC did something |
| 23:21.29 | Semlar | i can't believe there are any examples of xml anywhere |
| 23:21.40 | nevcairiel | Might be the PNG |
| 23:21.40 | Propheus | http://wow.gamepedia.com/XML/Texture |
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| 23:23.46 | Semlar | try interface/icons/inv_mushroom_11 for your filepath instead |
| 23:25.30 | _Kee | Just bought Overwatch since tf2 died. Why there is a list of WoW realms (including hidden/internal like Demon Invasion/Gamescom/Dalaran testing) in the Overwatch cache files? |
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| 23:26.43 | _Kee | I wish I could find a command line argument to automatically /hidechat every time I login |
| 23:26.59 | Ketho | Propheus: be careful on accepting shrooms from Semlar |
| 23:27.29 | mckenziemc | be careful when accepting anything from Semlar |
| 23:27.35 | mckenziemc | it might be a disguised mushroom |
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| 23:35.30 | Semlar | only licensed professionals |
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| 23:41.35 | Mr_Rabies | it's me ur brother |
| 23:41.41 | Mr_Rabies | u want some mushroom? |
| 23:43.02 | zenzelezz | don't worry, they're not mushrooms, just fungus |
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