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| 01:35.02 | Semlar | craigslist |
| 01:37.36 | Thunder_Child | That's not a chair. |
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| 01:58.49 | Torhal | I'm shocked that Semlar didn't say "toadstool" |
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| 02:19.54 | tinystomper | g'evening all |
| 02:23.01 | tinystomper | anyone working w/ the GroupFinder ? |
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| 02:45.29 | TorelTwiddler | Hey guys, is there a way to auto-fill the localized text in the toc file with curse tags? |
| 02:47.38 | Torhal | TorelTwiddler: Here's an example |
| 02:47.41 | Torhal | ## Title-frFR: @localization(locale="frFR", key="Title", namespace="ToC")@ |
| 02:48.05 | TorelTwiddler | ooOOohhh namespace |
| 02:48.08 | TorelTwiddler | thanks |
| 02:48.15 | Torhal | Yo don't need to use a namespace |
| 02:48.22 | Torhal | The relevant part is "key" |
| 02:48.24 | TorelTwiddler | oh? |
| 02:48.27 | TorelTwiddler | ahh right |
| 02:48.52 | TorelTwiddler | awesome, thanks! |
| 02:49.00 | Torhal | You're welcome. |
| 02:49.15 | TorelTwiddler | btw, curse is fantastic at packaging this stuff, nice work |
| 02:49.30 | Torhal | :D |
| 02:50.18 | TorelTwiddler | So is "key" just the english text in most cases? |
| 02:50.27 | Torhal | It's the phrase |
| 02:50.36 | TorelTwiddler | cool |
| 02:50.38 | Torhal | key/value = phrase/translation |
| 02:51.14 | Torhal | TorelTwiddler: https://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/localization/namespaces/ |
| 02:51.28 | Torhal | But as I said, yo don't need it to be in a namespace. |
| 02:51.37 | Torhal | That could have easily been just another phrase |
| 02:51.43 | Torhal | you* |
| 02:51.46 | Torhal | Damn keyboard. |
| 02:52.00 | TorelTwiddler | ok |
| 02:52.16 | Torhal | Err: https://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/localization/namespaces/toc/ |
| 02:52.27 | Thunder_Child | Sure Torhal, blame the keyboard. |
| 02:52.41 | Torhal | Fine, I didn't want to drop names. |
| 02:52.43 | Torhal | Damn Thunder_Child. |
| 02:56.15 | JustNeph | Hey, has anyone had success with getting a path for a spell. I see now GetSpellInfo() returns an icon number and GetSpellTexture seems to return the same number |
| 02:56.28 | JustNeph | The image path to be specific |
| 02:57.12 | nebula | JustNeph: GetSpellTextureFileName |
| 02:58.34 | Ssateneth | looks at Torhal |
| 02:59.14 | Torhal | Ssateneth: I told you yesterday that I don't know when I'll be able to get to it; I have four big projects that need work for 7.x |
| 02:59.17 | Torhal | :/ |
| 02:59.35 | Torhal | They're competing, too. |
| 02:59.36 | Ssateneth | :D |
| 02:59.48 | Ssateneth | Don't mind me |
| 02:59.54 | JustNeph | @nebula Thank you haha was digging around for an hour :( and that method has no docs on wow wiki :( |
| 02:59.55 | Ssateneth | soon tm |
| 02:59.56 | Torhal | I think I can sit down and work on one, and get pulled to another. |
| 03:00.01 | Torhal | Soon⢠|
| 03:00.05 | TorelTwiddler | It worked! Thanks Torhal! |
| 03:00.11 | Torhal | TorelTwiddler: Yay :) |
| 03:01.49 | Thunder_Child | Torhal: That's fine. Blaming me at work for everyting and anything is such a common occurence, even the execs do it. |
| 03:01.59 | Torhal | TheDanW: Any way we can get a C_ToyBox equivalent for C_TradeSkillUI.GetAllRecipeIDs? There are apparently toys that can be obtained, but aren't accessible from the API. |
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| 03:15.53 | kd3 | whee, instances broke |
| 03:15.55 | kd3 | and invasions |
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| 04:31.48 | karl_w_w | what the diddly fuck is this? |
| 04:32.07 | karl_w_w | steam controller + deus ex preorder incentive |
| 04:32.30 | karl_w_w | if deus ex is better on a controller it's gonna be a travesty |
| 04:41.19 | tinystomper | there's a bg map bug. addon solution here: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748034729 |
| 04:42.45 | tinystomper | screenshot of bug: http://i.imgur.com/ZVgMotS.jpg |
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| 05:20.25 | fewyn | anything interesting going on |
| 05:26.15 | pompy | sleep |
| 05:36.01 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 05:36.11 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 05:38.49 | Andols2 | I'm good, and nothing exciting at work :p |
| 05:38.56 | Andols2 | How about you? |
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| 06:15.27 | IsoLinCHiP | Hi there. Anyone here by chance using Combuctor? I seem to recall that you used to be able to choose from which bags you want items displayed, by clicking on the bags. Clicking on them also toggles a highlight around them which intuitivly would suggest that. But nothing happens :( |
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| 06:22.22 | Torhal | IsoLinCHiP: Inventorian does that. |
| 06:23.02 | nevcairiel | it does not |
| 06:24.01 | Torhal | Bah, I fixated on the bag highlight |
| 06:24.07 | Torhal | Totally missed the first part |
| 06:26.50 | Kalroth | rude |
| 06:28.12 | IsoLinCHiP | :) |
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| 06:37.16 | IsoLinCHiP | Hmm, does SetShown() ring any bells? In https://github.com/tullamods/Combuctor/blob/master/components/frame.lua#L214 it is used, but I cant track the function definition down. I would have expected it to be in https://github.com/tullamods/Combuctor/blob/master/components/bag.lua but its not. The surrounding code sounds like its trying to do what I expect. |
| 06:37.33 | nevcairiel | SetShown is a blizzard function |
| 06:38.01 | nevcairiel | its basically a wrapper for :Show() and :Hide() that takes a boolean a rgument |
| 06:38.25 | IsoLinCHiP | Oh, hmm, then I guess its a name clash |
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| 06:39.12 | nevcairiel | why a clash, maybe it means to use the blizzard one if you cant find a definition for it |
| 06:41.09 | IsoLinCHiP | Doh, ok, nevermind, I was at the wrong position in the code, thats the toggle display of all bagbuttons code, then it makes sence. |
| 06:43.42 | IsoLinCHiP | Back to the drawing board, finding the code that visually toggles the highlight on the individual bags. |
| 06:48.49 | IsoLinCHiP | Hmm, is toggling a highlight on a clicked button default beviour implemented in the blizz api? |
| 06:51.00 | IsoLinCHiP | I having trouble finding anything that would do so in https://github.com/tullamods/Combuctor/blob/master/components/bag.lua#L105 as self:CanToggle() is allways false and self:UpdateToggle() is a nop |
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| 07:25.35 | JustNeph | Question? Is there a way to see if a spell was unlearned and if so what the spell was? Otherwise is there a way to get a list of all the known spells you have? Even if it's by tab? |
| 07:28.54 | Miiru | you mean unlearned when respeccing? |
| 07:29.09 | JustNeph | Yea |
| 07:29.38 | JustNeph | Basically if I change talents and I gain one spell but unlearn another. I want to get the info on the spell I'm unlearning |
| 07:30.03 | Miiru | doesn't the game post that info in the chatframe? So there must be a possibility to get that information |
| 07:30.15 | Miiru | like 'You unlearned x' |
| 07:30.38 | Shockah|Work | no one likes parsing chat :S |
| 07:30.43 | IsoLinCHiP | JustNeph: you could try iterating over http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSpellBookItemInfo for a list of known spells |
| 07:30.55 | Miiru | yea put if its available to the chat its probably available somewhere else i guess :D |
| 07:31.08 | JustNeph | Thats what I figured |
| 07:31.13 | JustNeph | but no event seems to hold it |
| 07:31.23 | JustNeph | closes I gto was the SPELLS_CHANGED but that doesn't have any info |
| 07:31.24 | Shockah|Work | Miiru, not necessarily |
| 07:31.25 | JustNeph | and if fired often |
| 07:31.37 | IsoLinCHiP | And since the default UI reacts to changing specs by putting "new" spells on the actionbars, I bet there is an event you can listen for |
| 07:31.56 | Miiru | doesn't it do that only for the first time? |
| 07:32.07 | JustNeph | yea it doesn't change the action bar |
| 07:32.11 | JustNeph | if i already learned it |
| 07:32.16 | JustNeph | then unlearn and relearn |
| 07:32.37 | IsoLinCHiP | Agreed, what I meant was, take a look ni the blizz api for clues |
| 07:32.51 | IsoLinCHiP | Umn FrameXML |
| 07:35.56 | IsoLinCHiP | Ok, so http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB seems to be what I was referring to, but it clearly states first time :( |
| 07:36.11 | JustNeph | Yea |
| 07:36.16 | JustNeph | I'm listening for that event |
| 07:36.23 | JustNeph | but it only contains the new spell id |
| 07:36.27 | IsoLinCHiP | How about http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/SPELLS_CHANGED ? |
| 07:36.42 | JustNeph | That is fired before teh chat message but contains no spell id :( |
| 07:38.01 | IsoLinCHiP | Did you check if http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED supplies extra info? |
| 07:38.41 | VIad | the only way I see around this is to keep a tab yourself what spells are in the pool, what spells you have in the book, and then you know what you don't know :p |
| 07:39.08 | JustNeph | Yea, I was trying to avoid making that huge spell list for every spec/class :( |
| 07:39.27 | VIad | you can be highly creative and scan spells by ID |
| 07:40.04 | VIad | a while ago when I played with it, it was possible to scan for spells and use the isknown or pickup api to try put them on the bar, then use the actionbar api to determine status |
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| 07:40.51 | VIad | I think they changed it so you could't pickup things not relevant for your character, like other class spells, you would have to test it out. |
| 07:41.16 | VIad | unsure if the DBC contain data on spells for classes? like to easily parse the db file for at least the spellIDs relevant per class |
| 07:42.14 | JustNeph | DBC? |
| 07:44.02 | VIad | the client database files |
| 07:44.19 | VIad | basically alpha omega to information that api might not have easy access to |
| 07:45.06 | Miiru | http://eyesofthebeast.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/felbarbedspear.jpg that is not a spear oO |
| 07:45.28 | VIad | there are loads of spear/axes that missmatch |
| 07:46.20 | nevcairiel | tehre is no spear weapon category, its "polearm", which is a bit more flexible .. any weapon with a long pole would qualifiy |
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| 07:47.51 | VIad | even the poleaxe |
| 07:48.16 | VIad | think wow could in theory have more categories, like buckler, but pointless |
| 07:48.31 | Miiru | didn't they have bucklers at first? |
| 07:48.33 | VIad | you don't need the full arsenal of definitions |
| 07:48.34 | Miiru | like in alpha? |
| 07:48.55 | VIad | yes |
| 07:51.12 | IsoLinCHiP | Bummer ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED seems to allways supply 1,1 as args |
| 07:51.57 | nevcairiel | ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED sounds like a remnant from dual spec, which is always 1 now |
| 07:52.41 | IsoLinCHiP | interestingly enough grepping for some of the text supplied in the chatframe shows up nothing |
| 07:53.25 | IsoLinCHiP | I would have expected it to show up in some localtionsation file |
| 07:57.49 | IsoLinCHiP | JustNeph: Maybe you could crossreference the ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED with CombatLog SpellReady events? |
| 07:58.46 | VIad | are the old spec change spells used anymore? |
| 07:59.35 | IsoLinCHiP | No idea, but I saw some combatlog events fired when I changed spec and I was in a quiet area. So it might have been them |
| 08:01.03 | VIad | when you click the button to change, there was a new spell for it, but havent done much research if its common for all, or just the DH that got a new one. |
| 08:01.22 | mikma | well that was a proper good idea |
| 08:01.31 | mikma | "i'll just see this one episode of Doctor Who Season 9" |
| 08:01.39 | mikma | sure, good job, mikma. |
| 08:01.47 | IsoLinCHiP | lol |
| 08:01.56 | IsoLinCHiP | Well, at least now you are uptodate, I guess ;P |
| 08:02.04 | mikma | well it was S09E01 |
| 08:02.12 | mikma | and you can guess the rest |
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| 08:03.26 | IsoLinCHiP | My guess would be, you got hooked, or threw a tantrum. Dont remeber the story in season 9 |
| 08:03.43 | nevcairiel | you just finished the entire season? |
| 08:03.58 | mikma | nevcairiel: well just watched the first episode, so no |
| 08:06.05 | IsoLinCHiP | JustNeph: Well screw that Idea, I cant find a single call to AddMessage to find breakcrubms on which spells changed :( Looks like thats burried deep in the client |
| 08:07.08 | IsoLinCHiP | I give up, back to disecting combutor |
| 08:11.27 | VIad | never give up |
| 08:12.18 | IsoLinCHiP | Hehe, well, I just figured Id rather focus on my own project than chace leads on others ;) |
| 08:15.01 | IsoLinCHiP | Ok cool, this is a lead. Bagnon is from the same author as Combuctor, and it has the feature Im looking for. Thankfully the bag related code is similar, I might be able to port it. |
| 08:17.37 | VIad | also, never copy paste other peoples code :p |
| 08:17.45 | VIad | I'd ask first ;) |
| 08:17.56 | VIad | inspiration is fine of course |
| 08:18.22 | IsoLinCHiP | I am making local modifications. If they work ill submit a pullrequest. |
| 08:18.34 | VIad | on that note, Semlar, I stole your bouncing arrow code from your taxi map |
| 08:18.42 | IsoLinCHiP | lol :D |
| 08:18.55 | VIad | telling you weeks after the crime |
| 08:19.30 | Semlar | someone posted a screenshot that clearly had my arrows in it |
| 08:20.19 | VIad | I could use the yellow arrow instead to spice things up |
| 08:20.42 | Semlar | https://imgur.com/jehmwSl |
| 08:21.28 | VIad | what are those portals for? |
| 08:21.31 | VIad | mage tower? |
| 08:21.38 | Semlar | how should i know! |
| 08:21.42 | Semlar | it's not my addon |
| 08:21.48 | VIad | http://cdn-wow.mmoui.com/preview/pvw67357.png |
| 08:21.58 | VIad | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info24118-Ever-ShiftingMirror.html |
| 08:22.01 | nevcairiel | seems like mage tower locations, but its still lacking the tanaan portal then |
| 08:22.11 | VIad | ^ my thoughts |
| 08:22.25 | Semlar | p3lim was the one who posted it |
| 08:22.36 | Semlar | it was from like 4 days ago |
| 08:23.14 | Semlar | i just assumed that was what you were talking about |
| 08:23.25 | VIad | I linked you what I was talking about :d |
| 08:23.40 | Semlar | so that means 2 addons are using my arrows :| |
| 08:23.43 | VIad | :| |
| 08:24.03 | VIad | but its like 4 lines of code that makes the arrows bounce |
| 08:24.29 | Semlar | i made those specifically to make the flight points stand out in worldflightmap |
| 08:25.09 | VIad | I use it when you click on a portal so it takes you to the destination map and highlights where you end up with the arrow |
| 08:25.58 | VIad | can use the QuestArrow instead the DeadArrow if you like :p |
| 08:26.04 | Semlar | i don't care |
| 08:26.19 | VIad | c'mon don't be like that |
| 08:26.47 | VIad | tbh can just use the repeat api and make the animation loop |
| 08:26.52 | VIad | if that makes you feel better |
| 08:27.03 | VIad | the smoothing now supports in and out so it should bounce nice enough |
| 08:27.56 | VIad | just, the less code there is to make something specific happen, the easier it is to "steal" others code, in the sense it can end up pretty similar as there are too few api involved to achieve the goal |
| 08:28.02 | VIad | in this case a bouncing texture |
| 08:30.21 | VIad | I'll use SetLooping("BOUNCE") when I get home, you guilt tripped me |
| 08:31.01 | VIad | I hope no one steals my bounce code :p |
| 08:31.50 | mikma | semlar: yeah, your addons are known to suck, so no wonder you don't know anything! |
| 08:32.10 | Semlar | :( |
| 08:32.18 | mikma | i mean, look at Navi for example |
| 08:32.28 | mikma | still not released? pfff, sucks. |
| 08:33.45 | VIad | I love Semlar regardless |
| 08:34.18 | mikma | he's like a special child |
| 08:36.11 | VIad | but why didn't you use the bounce loop for the animationgroup, Semlar? |
| 08:36.33 | Semlar | you greatly underestimate how broken animations have been in the past |
| 08:36.51 | VIad | I believe you. |
| 08:37.17 | Semlar | in fact i literally have a comment in my code that says why i didn't use that |
| 08:37.30 | Semlar | how did you miss that |
| 08:37.58 | VIad | because I didn't copy paste and study your code that well |
| 08:38.29 | VIad | but is the animation still buggy? |
| 08:38.35 | Semlar | http://hastebin.com/zecateremi.lua you could not miss that |
| 08:38.37 | VIad | I thought blizz code use it too |
| 08:40.17 | VIad | no wonder, its not even used by blizz :p |
| 08:44.12 | VIad | the contribution api for guilds allowed me to kind of see who is active and not |
| 08:44.48 | VIad | mostly aimed at social guilds and ranking |
| 08:45.07 | VIad | had tiers with different repair gold amounts basically |
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| 09:05.58 | Miiru | oh wow |
| 09:06.11 | Miiru | huge ogre cache prizes skyrocketed :o |
| 09:06.16 | VIad | shocker |
| 09:06.25 | mikma | the shocker, you say? |
| 09:06.27 | VIad | :d |
| 09:06.32 | VIad | how are hex bags? |
| 09:06.38 | Miiru | but why would demonhunetr want a garrison? |
| 09:06.43 | Miiru | bags are only 1k :( |
| 09:06.43 | VIad | why not? |
| 09:06.46 | mikma | viad: my hex bags are good, thanks for asking |
| 09:06.50 | VIad | ^^ |
| 09:06.58 | Miiru | ogre caches are 15k |
| 09:07.00 | VIad | I got my garrison and shipyard mostly for fun |
| 09:07.01 | Miiru | atleast here |
| 09:07.07 | VIad | kek, bought mine for ~500 each |
| 09:07.12 | VIad | or something like that |
| 09:07.21 | Miiru | lets see if i can sell my 10 |
| 09:07.27 | Miiru | need gametime afetr all |
| 09:07.31 | VIad | ^^ |
| 09:07.53 | Miiru | oil is still 400g bah |
| 09:08.05 | VIad | I was thinking that hex bag price could go both ways. if there is an abundance of materials and crafters, they would still try sell cheaper than the others, so the price might drop than the average if there were too many bags on the AH |
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| 09:08.27 | VIad | the other scenario is that prices on the hex bags go up because lack of materials/crafters or simply people push the price up instead of down :p |
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| 09:10.49 | karl_w_w | VIad, ehome vs eg game 1 is the one to watch from the day |
| 09:11.02 | VIad | I can't atm karl_w_w, at work :( |
| 09:11.02 | karl_w_w | and they did fix the mvp phoenix announcement :P |
| 09:11.06 | VIad | lol |
| 09:11.09 | VIad | why don't they? |
| 09:11.12 | karl_w_w | watch it later :P |
| 09:11.16 | karl_w_w | did |
| 09:11.19 | VIad | mvp phoenic |
| 09:11.20 | VIad | aah DID |
| 09:11.21 | VIad | good |
| 09:11.36 | VIad | I guess they noticed ;) |
| 09:27.52 | Simca | hey nevcairiel - it looks (from a quick glance at Astrolabe) that you don't support the non-garrison maps that are broken (in the MAPS_TO_REMAP array) |
| 09:28.13 | Simca | at Astrolabe/HBD* |
| 09:28.25 | nevcairiel | like what |
| 09:29.00 | Simca | https://www.curseforge.com/paste/fb75da1b |
| 09:29.04 | nevcairiel | the garrison maps are a special kind of broken |
| 09:29.12 | nevcairiel | a bunch of others are handled automatically |
| 09:29.17 | nevcairiel | yeah those should be handled by magic |
| 09:29.20 | nevcairiel | without hardcoding |
| 09:32.09 | Simca | well damn, there goes my theory; there's no more bit 2 stuff in legion anyway |
| 09:32.45 | Simca | tl;dr - we're not getting data for broken shore scenario's stormwind part |
| 09:33.51 | nevcairiel | which part is that, the polish your armor thigns? |
| 09:35.13 | Simca | yeah |
| 09:35.23 | Simca | there is a vendor there who sells things that are unique |
| 09:36.54 | p3lim | Semlar: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info24119-InteractiveWormholes.html |
| 09:37.55 | VIad | =:o |
| 09:38.21 | Simca | i wonder if it is part of the instance ID override stuff you do |
| 09:38.22 | p3lim | Arrows (and icons) only show up when you are talking to the portals, so they can't possibly show up at the same time as your arrows |
| 09:38.27 | Simca | i noticed that has a lot of scenarios |
| 09:39.08 | nevcairiel | i have an addon that yells at me if its required |
| 09:39.13 | nevcairiel | didnt get yells there |
| 09:40.24 | VIad | I thought Semlar was angry that we ripped off his design without asking. |
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| 09:48.10 | nevcairiel | Simca: not sure what you do, but HBD reports proper data for that area in that phase - ie. just ordinary stormwind coordinates |
| 09:48.46 | Simca | huh |
| 09:49.08 | Simca | i will investigate more then, i was sure it was just an HBD problem because it was a weird scenario |
| 09:49.41 | nevcairiel | where is that vendor anyway |
| 09:52.04 | Simca | Stormwind Harbor (28,27) according to comments on wowhead |
| 09:52.38 | nevcairiel | found him |
| 09:54.29 | nevcairiel | but yeah reports pretty standard stormwind data, wouldnt even know you are in a quest phase |
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| 11:00.19 | VIad | *Lúcio drops the beat.* |
| 11:14.12 | karl_w_w | did you see the invoker AR they did VIad? |
| 11:15.10 | karl_w_w | https://clips.twitch.tv/dota2ti/FancyHamsterCoolCat |
| 11:15.26 | karl_w_w | it went on for longer than that, I was laughing my ass off |
| 11:16.15 | VIad | lol |
| 11:16.37 | VIad | the camera pan was ultra smooth too |
| 11:17.32 | karl_w_w | it has to be otherwise the AR jiggles around a bit |
| 11:18.06 | VIad | they did a good job at making the background transparent too |
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| 11:37.26 | VIad | karl_w_w: did valve raise over 20mil this year? |
| 11:38.24 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 11:39.56 | VIad | any charity like blizzard though? :p |
| 11:51.11 | karl_w_w | thankfully not |
| 11:51.43 | karl_w_w | the charity is the clinically depressed shut-ins who play the game :P |
| 11:53.06 | VIad | lol |
| 11:57.34 | karl_w_w | the most amazing thing really is how they are doing like 12 hour days with no downtime at all |
| 11:57.55 | VIad | I hope they have different teams swapping |
| 11:58.02 | VIad | you dont want people to be tired and mess up live |
| 11:58.16 | VIad | at least tech guys are probably busy all the time |
| 11:58.26 | VIad | commentators probably dont talk when they are off stage :p |
| 11:58.51 | VIad | does valve have numbers about viewer statistics? |
| 11:59.32 | karl_w_w | i havent seen any |
| 12:00.04 | VIad | would be interesting to see how many watch and from where |
| 12:04.06 | VIad | btw someone claims if you hold W+S+doublejump you will disconnect |
| 12:04.09 | VIad | anyone want to try? :p |
| 12:04.51 | nevcairiel | its just a disconnect, why dont you try |
| 12:04.58 | VIad | at work :p |
| 12:05.06 | VIad | no wow in sight |
| 12:05.27 | VIad | shenanigans doing it with mindcontrol as well |
| 12:07.00 | VIad | another fun thing to do is to find a friend, fly high up, dismount and glider, then set on follow and you will do a pretty spiral |
| 12:07.06 | VIad | and disconnect as you land on the ground :p |
| 12:07.21 | VIad | wow disconnect conditions can be a bit weird sometimes |
| 12:10.39 | VIad | GetInvasionInfoByMapAreaID or GetInvasionInfo using POI |
| 12:11.00 | VIad | might make a simple addon to check the zones with invasion to alert me when there is one |
| 12:12.15 | VIad | nevcairiel, did you know about GetPlayerMapAreaID ? |
| 12:12.29 | VIad | as in GetPlayerMapAreaID(unit) |
| 12:13.06 | VIad | good bye, GetCurrentMapAreaID, hello GetPlayerMapAreaID! |
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| 12:15.30 | nevcairiel | i know about it but its not reliable |
| 12:15.56 | VIad | aww |
| 12:16.07 | VIad | it should be imo :/ |
| 12:16.18 | Simca | the sky is blue |
| 12:16.23 | Simca | the map API is bugged to shit |
| 12:16.31 | Simca | these are the fundamental truths we live by |
| 12:17.50 | VIad | it's lame when you make a semi broken api |
| 12:18.13 | Simca | it would be so nice if GetCurrentMapAreaID executed the same code that SetMapToCurrentZone does and then stopped short of setting the map and instead returned its ID |
| 12:18.14 | VIad | maybe it gets fixed one day, that would be amazing |
| 12:18.51 | Simca | instead, GetCurrentMapAreaID is some bizarre function designed with similar but slightly different code that makes everything awful |
| 12:19.44 | VIad | also, GetPlayerMapAreaID takes a unit, so should be GetUnitMapAreaID if we want to respect the other unit related apis |
| 12:20.05 | VIad | otherwise doesnt sound like it takes any arguments |
| 12:20.34 | VIad | also it seems like the invasions have no particular event |
| 12:20.41 | VIad | so probably gotta fire a check every minute or so :p |
| 12:20.58 | Simca | in a perfect world, GetCurrentMapAreaID is: { return GetPlayerMapAreaID("player") } |
| 12:21.20 | Simca | and GetPlayerMapAreaID is a subset of the zone setting function that returns map ID |
| 12:21.33 | Simca | but instead, they're all slightly different and bugged in different ways |
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| 12:26.03 | tinystomper | g'morning |
| 12:26.28 | karl_w_w | every time I open the bnet app I have to click go online |
| 12:26.38 | nebula | Simca: a sane map api is slated for 10.0 |
| 12:26.50 | Shockah|Work | same here karl_w_w |
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| 12:29.36 | VIad | nebula: lol :p |
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| 12:30.34 | tinystomper | there's a bug in the world map during bgs. basically, it places the POI frame on top of the players, hiding player dots |
| 12:31.06 | tinystomper | simple fix is to change its level ie: WorldMapPOIFrame:SetFrameLevel( 200 ) ; |
| 12:33.14 | tinystomper | btw, i was unable to reproduce W+S+DoubleJump --> disconnect |
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| 12:36.51 | VIad | tinystomper: on a D? |
| 12:36.53 | VIad | DH* |
| 12:37.03 | tinystomper | yes |
| 12:37.12 | VIad | ok. might be fixed then. :d |
| 12:37.39 | tinystomper | i tried it just after server reset... so it might've been |
| 12:38.15 | tinystomper | anyone know if there's any api into the adventure guide? |
| 12:38.52 | tinystomper | a few changes would be immensely helpful and help drive user participation |
| 12:39.16 | tinystomper | ie: place raid lock outs on the raid panel |
| 12:39.46 | tinystomper | ie: when selecting loot, if a check box is checked, would only show those items you've yet to collect |
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| 12:40.58 | tinystomper | i see no way to 1) know which raid is listed in the panel, 2) get the lockout, 3) limit the items shown on the loot panel and 4) determine if appearance already collected |
| 12:42.00 | tinystomper | (i could prolly get lockout info via the calendar api... drop that one) |
| 12:43.18 | Simca | 4) is unreasonably hard right now (you have to load the item you want in a dressupmodel to use the API to get its ItemAppearanceID), but they've said they're fixing it for 7.1 |
| 12:46.20 | tinystomper | i figure if players had a quick way to look thru the raids and see possible gear they could collect, it might give them incentive to go after it |
| 12:46.29 | tinystomper | many players have no idea where to get things |
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| 12:48.55 | tinystomper | btw, for the dressing room when you're trying on stuff... it's INCREDIBLY nice to upsize the window ie: http://i.imgur.com/uN4eolD.png |
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| 12:49.36 | tinystomper | you really get to appreciate the detail when you can zoom in |
| 12:52.59 | VIad | tinystomper: windows magnifier to the rescue |
| 12:55.11 | tinystomper | i just used MoveAnything to resize the DressingRoom 2x normal. my point was, it'd be nice if that was the default or a simple resizer in the corner was available on the main UI |
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| 13:03.18 | Andols2 | VIad: It is probably one team working the whole event :P |
| 13:05.06 | Andols2 | Every E-sports production I have been part of (or someone I know) have only had one team. |
| 13:06.12 | karl_w_w | the difference is these guys are going all day :P |
| 13:06.18 | karl_w_w | there aren't even ads |
| 13:06.37 | karl_w_w | it's game -> panel -> segment maybe -> other panel -> game |
| 13:08.35 | Andols2 | That is impressive. But during the game everyone except casters and spectator relaxes/eats toilets etc :) |
| 13:08.41 | karl_w_w | we did see the production area yesterday, maybe i can find it |
| 13:09.48 | karl_w_w | but no matter how tough it gets, you shouldn't eat toilets |
| 13:10.06 | karl_w_w | there it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3811jbv6tp8 |
| 13:14.16 | Andols2 | That's waaaay more cameras compared to one stage at Dreamhack :p |
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| 13:32.49 | Simca | ok nevcairiel I found a real problem |
| 13:33.08 | Simca | HereBeDragons is telling me that i'm on floor 1 of Orgrimmar |
| 13:33.11 | Simca | but I am on floor 0 |
| 13:33.46 | nevcairiel | are you sure, orgrimmar is weird about floors |
| 13:33.58 | nevcairiel | ie. it depends who you ask =p |
| 13:34.05 | Simca | i am pretty sure |
| 13:34.06 | Thunder_Child | Note that 0 vs 1 for floors is also a cultural ting. |
| 13:34.08 | Thunder_Child | thing* |
| 13:35.03 | Simca | SetDungeonMapLevel doesn't move the map |
| 13:35.06 | Simca | any other way to test? |
| 13:35.23 | nevcairiel | HBD should tell you waht GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel tells you |
| 13:35.46 | nevcairiel | some maps dont have a real floor 0 because they are weird |
| 13:35.51 | nevcairiel | i could never figure out why they are weird |
| 13:36.20 | nevcairiel | those usually have DungeonUsesTerrainMap() return true |
| 13:36.46 | Thunder_Child | I have to admit, I would be laughing at someone if I saw them on https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/modobag-world-s-first-motorized-rideable-luggage-travel-technology#/ at the airport. |
| 13:38.12 | Simca | both wowhead and wowdb have flawed data for orgrimmar atm |
| 13:38.23 | Simca | and both have addons which rely on HBD now that didn't before |
| 13:38.33 | Simca | so i am tempted to blame it for doing something slightly different |
| 13:38.50 | nevcairiel | i wont take any blame, i just forward the info the game gives me |
| 13:39.06 | nevcairiel | OG may have also changed behavior in 7.0, i faintly remember something |
| 13:39.12 | Simca | ok i'll blame TheDanW |
| 13:40.24 | Simca | I actually think it's GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel that changed |
| 13:40.43 | Simca | it gives 1 for org and 2 for cleft of shadows |
| 13:40.43 | nevcairiel | they changed how dungeon level are reported in a few things in 7.0 |
| 13:40.52 | Simca | but org is 0 and cleft of shadows is 1 |
| 13:40.57 | nevcairiel | or so you think |
| 13:40.59 | nevcairiel | but is it? |
| 13:41.10 | Simca | GetNumMapDungeonLevels() returns { [1] = 0, [2] = 1} |
| 13:41.26 | Simca | so maybe GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel now returns an index into that |
| 13:41.26 | nevcairiel | and then you have to take DungeonUsesTerrainMap() into account, and increment all levels by one |
| 13:41.40 | nevcairiel | that works flawlessly ^^ |
| 13:43.41 | nevcairiel | i have no idea why that special case exists, but thats what the framexml thigns do with it, and it has proven to work perfectly |
| 13:44.15 | Simca | wowdb and wowhead probably expect 0 and 1 values |
| 13:44.19 | Simca | let me check the DB files |
| 13:47.14 | VIad | karl_w_w: the twitch replay audio is fucked? |
| 13:48.15 | Simca | yeah, the raw data shows 0 and 1 |
| 13:48.30 | nevcairiel | but there is a flag somewhere that causes them to be incremented |
| 13:48.39 | nevcairiel | its not a new flag, but probably new for Og |
| 13:48.59 | Simca | well it's just that we were using shitty libraries before that didn't handle that for us |
| 13:49.05 | VIad | nvm cable was not entirely in :p |
| 13:49.13 | Simca | and we never handled it for ourselves because we don't want to put the data back into frameXML |
| 13:49.26 | Simca | we want to take it and match it against DB2 data, which is indexed from 0 |
| 13:49.52 | Simca | it's fine though, ours is a weird use case, I can just check for that flag after HBD returns its data and subtract 1 |
| 13:50.18 | nevcairiel | DungeonUsesTerrainMap requires map context though, so unless you check that offline it might be annoying |
| 13:51.03 | Simca | urgh |
| 13:51.23 | Simca | wanted to fix it addon side so i didn't have to add to the web dev's already massive pile of things to fix |
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| 13:53.13 | Snowkrim | Hi guys, could anyone help me? I have this: http://codepad.org/7ywVTfj1 I want 'f.text' to use the 's' (seconds) from line 1. How could I merge it all together? Lines in question are just 1 and 20. What I'm trying to do: http://i.imgur.com/6fpPAYJ.png the box that reads 00 is the frame the script is creating and if everything works well it should read '53' (the seconds from the stopwatch) |
| 13:53.40 | Snowkrim | Alternatively, if there is a method to just grab the seconds from the Stopwatch and move it elsewhere on the screen that would work too |
| 13:54.11 | Snowkrim | I'd preferably get around without having to create a frame, all I need is text somewhere on the screen that displays the seconds only from stopwatch timer |
| 13:54.24 | Snowkrim | Halp much appreciated :( |
| 13:55.24 | Snowkrim | tried moving StopwatchTickerSecond but it seems to be bound to the blizz stopwatch frame |
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| 14:00.58 | Thunder_Child | I don't know Lua but it seems that everything in the func at the top is local. Woudn't you need to return 's'? |
| 14:02.42 | Snowkrim | Not sure, I'm more or less clueless - trying to help out a friend who's even more clueless |
| 14:02.54 | Snowkrim | Thought it'd be a bit easier than this :D |
| 14:03.05 | Snowkrim | I've changed it to: http://codepad.org/KMiSi5Ss |
| 14:03.08 | Snowkrim | still nothing though |
| 14:04.25 | Simca | you're not running StopwatchTicker_Update |
| 14:04.32 | Simca | where are you expecting that to be called from? |
| 14:04.51 | Snowkrim | idk, the line 1 is just from http://codepad.org/yIZqbjCc |
| 14:04.58 | Snowkrim | which is a script I found online to change stopwatch timer format |
| 14:05.19 | Snowkrim | I figured if I just grab the beginnings of it I'll be able to feed the frame the seconds from the stopwatch lol |
| 14:05.19 | mfgmfg | you probably want the set text inside |
| 14:06.39 | Simca | your problem is the timing of your load |
| 14:06.54 | Simca | that function being run relied on replacing blizzard's function |
| 14:07.10 | Simca | which is fine since it was a script, which you enter after you have used a stopwatch |
| 14:07.29 | Simca | your addon is loading with the game itself though, and is defining its function first, before blizzard's |
| 14:07.35 | Snowkrim | ohh |
| 14:08.09 | Simca | you can fix that by forcing blizzard's timemanager to load before yours |
| 14:08.32 | Snowkrim | does it actually make sense to solve my problem like this though? maybe there's some much easier way to just take the seconds out of the stopwatch |
| 14:08.38 | Snowkrim | or hide everything in the stopwatch but the seconds that'd work too |
| 14:08.59 | Snowkrim | the closest I get is like.. https://i.imgur.com/meaii0Q.png |
| 14:09.48 | Simca | idk if it makes sense |
| 14:10.00 | Simca | but it is pretty easy |
| 14:10.23 | Simca | add: ## OptionalDeps: Blizzard_TimeManager |
| 14:10.26 | Simca | to your .toc file |
| 14:10.44 | Snowkrim | the thing is this stuff is for someone who's going blizzcon this year, lol. and blizzard has told them 'scripts are fine, but not automatic ones' as in, changing appearance of UI or anything that's automatic: not allowed |
| 14:10.52 | Torhal | Correlation is not causation; 7.x may have changed some things regarding maps, as it did other things. |
| 14:11.02 | Snowkrim | woops I meant changing UI appearance: allowed, automatic stuff: not allowed |
| 14:11.19 | Snowkrim | so we're not sure if creating frames is actually seen as 'legal' by them : / |
| 14:11.25 | Torhal | ...aaaand I was scrolled up. Yay. |
| 14:12.09 | Simca | Torhal: yeah i checked the db2 data, it refers to the floors as 0 and 1, HBD returns 1 and 2 - which is the format most addons will want (because that's what FrameXML functions/C functions in the API accept) |
| 14:12.18 | Snowkrim | and in the case of the lan tourny these scripts are run in-game via macros, so it wouldn't be possible to add ## OptionalDeps: Blizzard_TimeManager since there is no addon or toc for that matter |
| 14:12.41 | Torhal | Gotcha |
| 14:13.35 | Simca | this was how i summarized the issue for chaud, lol https://db.tt/Br7mXxwJ |
| 14:15.46 | Snowkrim | adding that to the TOC does not help btw |
| 14:15.46 | Simca | Snowkrim: what do you want to happen when the seconds go over 60? |
| 14:15.53 | Snowkrim | it never will |
| 14:15.58 | Snowkrim | they're just using it to track |
| 14:16.01 | Snowkrim | interrupts |
| 14:16.05 | Snowkrim | so max is like 24ish seconds |
| 14:16.21 | Snowkrim | they get interrupted, press a key |
| 14:16.30 | Snowkrim | and the key is a macro to run 24 second or whatever second timer |
| 14:16.53 | Snowkrim | used to have automatic interrupt trackers a couple years back but blizz disallowed that |
| 14:16.59 | Snowkrim | :D |
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| 14:18.30 | Simca | can somebody kick WoWDBProfiler's packager on CurseForge? |
| 14:18.32 | Simca | please and thank you |
| 14:19.39 | nevcairiel | done |
| 14:19.51 | Simca | excellent |
| 14:20.35 | Simca | seems like it dies every time I accidentally attempt a push without my ssh keys initialized |
| 14:20.55 | Simca | when i do load the keys and try again, it works ofc but the packager never works |
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| 14:23.34 | Snowkrim | Friends using this now: http://codepad.org/uMGukn27 |
| 14:23.38 | Snowkrim | Result: http://i.imgur.com/XRdrWMH.png |
| 14:24.04 | Snowkrim | so it's kinda awkward as it'd be really good if we could hide the Stopwatch box itself (not needed) and the : : |
| 14:24.52 | Snowkrim | Figured why not just create a new frame and get use stopwatch timer to set the text for it, but that creates more problems than it solves (potentially disallowed by blizz, can't use TOC to force the TimeManager thing) |
| 14:27.51 | Simca | i have a ridiculous idea, gimme a sec |
| 14:27.58 | Snowkrim | ok :D |
| 14:28.22 | Snowkrim | Trying to move the seconds out of the stopwatch timer box doesn't work, it's like anchored to it or something and I guess you can't tweak that stuff |
| 14:29.03 | Snowkrim | so weird that they just give you this shitty stopwatch that you can't really customize, it's really useful to have a timer that you can trigger with macro press |
| 14:30.37 | Shockah|Work | can't you possibly... write your own stopwatch? |
| 14:31.53 | Snowkrim | yeah can't really do stuff like that, it's for blizzcon tourny and blizzard has made a statement that anything automatic is not allowed, tweaking appearance of UI is allowed |
| 14:32.15 | Snowkrim | it's a vague statement so we're basically paranoid of even creating any frames that aren't there by default |
| 14:32.27 | Shockah|Work | what do you mean by "automated" |
| 14:32.28 | Snowkrim | cause the way blizzard carry themselves if they don't like something they'll just disqualify you on the spot :D |
| 14:32.34 | Snowkrim | idk. that's what they literally said |
| 14:32.38 | Shockah|Work | and i'm pretty sure "tweaking appearance of UI" would mean texture replacements at most |
| 14:32.55 | Snowkrim | they don't want people having like interrupt trackers |
| 14:32.57 | Snowkrim | or DR trackers |
| 14:33.01 | Snowkrim | couple years back everyone had that |
| 14:33.07 | Snowkrim | just run a couple macros and done |
| 14:33.44 | Snowkrim | now it's more or less just tweaking the looks and nothing that runs in the background or adds functions I guess |
| 14:33.51 | Snowkrim | but their wording was 'nothing automatic' lol |
| 14:33.57 | Snowkrim | that's literally what the admin said to my friend |
| 14:34.06 | Simca | do what halo 1 pros did |
| 14:34.13 | Shockah|Work | i guess that would include not using the stopwatch? no idea. |
| 14:34.14 | Simca | wear stopwatches on both wrists |
| 14:34.27 | Snowkrim | you can use the stopwatch since it's by default within the blizz UI |
| 14:34.28 | Snowkrim | blizz* |
| 14:34.44 | Snowkrim | people just using it to time stuff, like a mage counterspells you, you press a keybind to trigger 24 sec countdown |
| 14:34.50 | Simca | bump left wrist for overshield, right wrist for active camo |
| 14:34.54 | Simca | lol |
| 14:34.54 | Snowkrim | so it's 'manual' hence legal for blizz |
| 14:34.59 | Snowkrim | hahah |
| 14:36.51 | Snowkrim | people would bring stuff like this to the LAN couple years ago: http://codepad.org/9u5Vi9L0 |
| 14:37.05 | Snowkrim | much more than that actually |
| 14:37.19 | Snowkrim | some guy had like 392348 macros just for setting up his UI/mini-addons |
| 14:38.41 | Snowkrim | I guess since the stopwatch frame is part of the blizzard default UI, you can't really do any extensive customization to it even with Lua |
| 14:43.02 | nebula | so make your own stopwatch frame with blackjack and hookers |
| 14:45.15 | AcidWeb | Sooo DUEL_REQUESTED don't trigger anymore? |
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| 14:45.22 | AcidWeb | Anybody know anything about it? |
| 14:45.27 | Snowkrim | yeah I wanted to do that, create a frame that uses the info from the Blizz stopwatch, then hide the blizz stopwatch, that way can edit the font/format however |
| 14:46.10 | Snowkrim | but that doesn't work :( |
| 14:46.21 | Snowkrim | even if forcing blizz time manager to load before my addon |
| 14:46.58 | VIad | karl_w_w: usa usa usa |
| 14:47.02 | Snowkrim | http://codepad.org/KMiSi5Ss |
| 14:47.07 | Snowkrim | that was the last thing I tried |
| 14:47.17 | Snowkrim | ## OptionalDeps: Blizzard_TimeManager added to TOC |
| 14:47.32 | Snowkrim | doesn't work ^^ |
| 14:48.02 | Snowkrim | guess it's something to do with line1/20 but not sure.. |
| 14:48.45 | Simca | ha, i did it |
| 14:48.54 | Snowkrim | :o |
| 14:50.55 | Simca | deceptively simple - do /sw then move it wear you want, then do StopwatchTickerSecond:SetParent("UIParent") StopwatchFrame:Hide() |
| 14:51.47 | Torhal | Simca: Know offhand who I need to smack to make hidden NPCs actually be hidden? I tried to look at a list of NPCs and there are a bunch where the Zone column is completely blank. The checkbox for "Show Hidden NPCs?" is unchecked. |
| 14:51.56 | Snowkrim | Damn dude |
| 14:51.57 | Snowkrim | :D |
| 14:52.06 | Snowkrim | you a genie |
| 14:52.38 | Snowkrim | so that anchors the stopwatch seconds to UIParent and then you just hide the rest of the frame |
| 14:52.46 | Snowkrim | yeah that is simple :P |
| 14:52.57 | Simca | Torhal: yeah that checkbox has been broken since literally less than 24 hours after it was implemented |
| 14:53.09 | Torhal | ... |
| 14:53.28 | Torhal | My expectation would be that if an NPC has no known zone... |
| 14:53.29 | Simca | well, to be precise, it hid everything. |
| 14:53.36 | Torhal | Ugh |
| 14:53.40 | Simca | and then we fixed it to not work |
| 14:53.51 | Torhal | Dat fix. |
| 14:54.57 | Simca | yeah. to be fair this was in the last few days of Nic's time on wowdb and he didn't really have time to spend on checkboxes |
| 14:55.10 | Simca | and probably nobody has ever bugged freddie about it |
| 14:55.44 | Simca | Freddie: checkboxes are lying to Torhal, pls fix |
| 14:56.33 | Torhal | VERY LIES. |
| 14:56.48 | Fisker | drops the beat and hugs Torhal |
| 14:56.56 | Snowkrim | Simca, one problem though |
| 14:56.57 | Torhal | :O |
| 14:57.03 | Snowkrim | Can't resize :P |
| 14:57.16 | Snowkrim | I guess cause it's not anchored to UIParent it uses the scale of UIParent |
| 14:57.20 | Snowkrim | :| |
| 14:57.23 | Snowkrim | now** |
| 14:57.36 | nevcairiel | you could just rescale it though |
| 14:57.49 | nevcairiel | StopwatchTickerSecond:SetScale(2) for double size =p |
| 14:57.50 | Snowkrim | tried to |
| 14:57.53 | Simca | you can probably change the anchors and the font size |
| 14:58.57 | Snowkrim | Message: [string "StopwatchTickerSecond:SetScale(2)"]:1: attempt to call method 'SetScale' (a nil value) |
| 14:59.00 | Snowkrim | :D |
| 14:59.02 | Simca | alternatively, squint harder |
| 14:59.02 | Snowkrim | it doesn't like it |
| 14:59.23 | Snowkrim | StopwatchTicker:SetScale(2) // StopwatchFrame:SetScale(2) no effect too |
| 15:00.45 | Snowkrim | if you re-scale before StopwatchTickerSecond:SetParent("UIParent"), after it just resets to normal scale, cause it's just using UI scale |
| 15:01.39 | Simca | fontsize is a way out like I suggested, i think |
| 15:02.06 | Snowkrim | how can I change it's font size though? |
| 15:02.12 | Snowkrim | haha changing UI scale makes it disappear |
| 15:02.16 | Snowkrim | weird |
| 15:02.29 | Snowkrim | by even 0.1 I mean |
| 15:02.33 | Snowkrim | but doesn't matter was just testing |
| 15:02.41 | Snowkrim | its font size** |
| 15:02.45 | Snowkrim | bad englando |
| 15:05.32 | Simca | yeah because it exceeds the bounds of the frame |
| 15:05.36 | Simca | anchors need to be adjusted |
| 15:06.10 | Snowkrim | I see, what if I adjust the font size, do I still gotta adjust the anchors? |
| 15:06.18 | Simca | yes |
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| 15:09.31 | Snowkrim | not true actually |
| 15:09.33 | Snowkrim | I just did |
| 15:09.35 | Snowkrim | StopwatchTickerSecond:SetFont("Fonts\\FRIZQT__.ttf",25,"OUTLINE") |
| 15:09.39 | Snowkrim | and that works fine |
| 15:09.59 | Snowkrim | well.. that was a lot easier than I thought lol |
| 15:12.09 | Simca | you can still control the stopwatch manually too, with /sw |
| 15:12.26 | Snowkrim | that's awesome :D |
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| 15:13.22 | Snowkrim | How do the fonts actually work? can you use any font on the system or does it use some wow included fonts only? |
| 15:15.36 | Snowkrim | nvm figured it out |
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| 15:47.56 | Snowkrim | Simca, I actually forgot to thank you (was on call with the guy) - so thank you from me and from him :) |
| 15:48.22 | Simca | yup, glad to help |
| 15:49.26 | fewyn | wait... i thought these quests were no longer in game? http://i.imgur.com/s9LUacb.jpg or is this one of those legion hidden things? |
| 15:50.14 | fewyn | lol yeah |
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| 16:01.11 | fewyn | it's repeatable for rep too |
| 16:07.33 | mfgmfg | the first 3 are one-time |
| 16:07.37 | mfgmfg | then it turns to runecloth |
| 16:07.49 | fewyn | yeah |
| 16:11.00 | TheDanW | Torhal: it's something i'd like to add, just don't know when - i'm trying to make sure all new systems have something similar, where feasible |
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| 16:19.59 | mfgmfg | nevcairiel, did you catch 22410 as well? when'd that go live |
| 16:20.25 | nevcairiel | Around 24 hours ago now |
| 16:20.48 | mfgmfg | thought that was 22396 |
| 16:20.52 | nevcairiel | Don't remember exact time |
| 16:20.58 | mfgmfg | or was that 48 hours |
| 16:20.59 | Stanzilla | 21:08 |
| 16:22.13 | nevcairiel | 396 was Tuesday |
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| 16:43.47 | VIad | the invasion tech is kind of interesting. when I enter the zone, it seems to pick a ongoing invasion (if any that suits my character), or sends me in a new one |
| 16:43.58 | VIad | then I see people that also go to the zone, phase into mine to fill out the slots :p |
| 16:44.17 | VIad | fancy scenario phasing using the open world |
| 16:44.54 | mfgmfg | would have been amazing for AQ gates |
| 16:47.15 | VIad | oh yes :p |
| 16:47.21 | VIad | and protecting moonglade |
| 16:47.30 | VIad | and wintergrasp |
| 16:47.42 | VIad | you can probably use the tech to balance zones quite neatly |
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| 16:49.38 | mfgmfg | but some people don't want that |
| 16:50.08 | mfgmfg | what if i want to live the fantasy where horde utterly crushed alliance by going to a high horde low alliance pop pvp server |
| 16:50.25 | nevcairiel | Its similar Tech used for normal zone sharding |
| 16:50.35 | nevcairiel | Put you with people from you guild or friend list |
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| 16:56.37 | VIad | ^ actually that can bug |
| 16:56.51 | VIad | even yesterday didnt see my guild/friend/realid/bnet in dalaran when I was there |
| 16:56.53 | VIad | had to inv to party |
| 17:15.43 | fewyn | yeah i read there are still some kinks to work out for that |
| 17:20.20 | tinystomper | ... Warmongering Gladiator's Gavel ... can't be purchased by a Frost DK and cannot be mog'd into by a Frost DK. If there were ever a perfect mace for a Frost DK, this would be it. |
| 17:20.21 | tinystomper | http://www.wowdb.com/items/126320-warmongering-gladiators-gavel |
| 17:21.11 | tinystomper | tables flipped. mic dropped. *grumble grumble* *stomps off* |
| 17:23.04 | VIad | (â¯Â°â¡Â°ï¼â¯ï¸µ â»ââ» |
| 17:33.38 | relaxok | what are the units of SetVerticalScroll/HorizontalScroll? is it just the base 'pixels' of the UI like 1024x768? |
| 17:34.00 | relaxok | or is it relative to something else? |
| 17:39.59 | relaxok | everything i am googling just says 'scroll position' but thats pretety vague |
| 17:40.03 | relaxok | pretty* |
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| 17:43.56 | VIad | does anyone know why blizz made it so you need to wait 24H before your DH can do legacy instances? |
| 17:44.42 | kd3 | because they don't want people creating a DH, running something, deleting it, and doing it again over and over? |
| 17:44.54 | VIad | but you can still do that? |
| 17:44.58 | kd3 | not that the 24hr cooldown is all that much of a deterrent |
| 17:45.00 | VIad | :p |
| 17:45.06 | VIad | make 12 DHs |
| 17:45.08 | VIad | wait 24 hours |
| 17:45.14 | VIad | farm what you want, delete them, repeat |
| 17:45.59 | VIad | what about the account CD? |
| 17:46.04 | VIad | 10 dungeons, each 1H CD |
| 17:46.15 | VIad | how would it help me if I made one, leveled past the start zone, did a raid :p |
| 17:46.32 | VIad | well I guess raid saves |
| 17:48.29 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/KwgMcwT.jpg |
| 17:48.33 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 17:55.05 | VIad | I dont get it |
| 17:55.09 | VIad | I dont own a PS2/PS3 |
| 17:55.10 | VIad | PS4* |
| 17:55.16 | VIad | so I dont know if he wrote that or they :p |
| 18:00.58 | VIad | is a 100 dk as good as 100 any other class? |
| 18:01.06 | VIad | I mean, they miss like quite a lot of talents |
| 18:13.27 | relaxok | blurgh apparently the default max vertical/horizontal is 0 so that doesn't help much |
| 18:30.54 | zenzelezz | any Germans that can offer a deeper explanation of "groÃer kurfürst" than the "large elector" that google translate offers? Possibly Wargaming just picked a weird name for this ship, but I'd imagine there was some meaning to it |
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| 18:33.57 | Stanzilla | that's a rank title from the german roman empire |
| 18:34.00 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: I wonder if that roughly translates to praetorian guard |
| 18:34.02 | Stanzilla | what exactly do you want to know |
| 18:34.52 | zenzelezz | that makes sense |
| 18:35.27 | zenzelezz | it's the top tier German battleship (upcoming) in World of Warships. The lower tiers had titles that would go along with that rank meaning |
| 18:36.05 | zenzelezz | cheers |
| 18:36.33 | Yoshimo | addon prefix AISM, could that be another angry something addon? |
| 18:42.33 | Gnarfoz | Fel Reaver just squished me, as a tank :O |
| 18:47.38 | zenzelezz | now that brings back memories |
| 18:51.20 | Gnarfoz | also, in general, the last stage invasion bosses seem to hit like trucks |
| 18:53.17 | nebula | demonic trucks |
| 18:53.43 | mfgmfg | i think it'd be cool if we sometimes fail to stop an invasion |
| 18:56.11 | zenzelezz | "sorry guys, expansion's cancelled, you idiots failed" |
| 18:56.27 | zenzelezz | but I agree |
| 18:57.46 | mfgmfg | you die, you get ripped to the nether and cannot come back to the same phase |
| 18:57.59 | mfgmfg | too many die? you can't beat the final boss |
| 18:58.19 | mfgmfg | but that might make people too afraid to attack |
| 18:58.37 | bshelden | On the contrary, zergs would happen and nobody would beat the final boss. |
| 19:05.59 | Gnarfoz | nebula: fel dumpsters? |
| 19:06.48 | nebula | that sounds naughty |
| 19:07.20 | Gnarfoz | cackles demonically |
| 19:07.30 | bshelden | >.> |
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| 20:41.20 | Gnarfoz | ~seen nusuey |
| 20:41.22 | purl | nusuey is currently on #wowhead #wowuidev #riftuidev #wowace, last said: 'this channel is mostly quiet so maybe there is a better way how to contact somebody who could answer it :/'. |
| 20:41.30 | Gnarfoz | NuSuey: did you PM me somewhere earlier? oO |
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| 20:42.00 | Gnarfoz | rofl, apparently that was in 2014. thanks Quasseldroid. |
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| 20:46.46 | JustNeph | Any suggestions for a in game console to test things like lua code? |
| 20:47.57 | Stanzilla | wowlua |
| 20:48.01 | Gnarfoz | _devpad |
| 20:48.14 | Gnarfoz | (that's about it, isn't it? is there a third one?) |
| 20:49.57 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.16 | JustNeph | Ok, cool thanks guys |
| 20:51.20 | Gnarfoz | Simca likes it bare-bones |
| 20:51.30 | Gnarfoz | also, https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/4x8e10/biggest_troll_move_ive_ever_witnessed/ |
| 20:53.52 | ccox | nice |
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| 21:02.08 | Aftermathh | Hey everyone |
| 21:29.09 | Primer | Best troll for me was when someone formed a group to raid Thunder Bluff, and because of the tight quarters in the elevator he had everyone put him on follow. At the top of the elevator he promptly did a 180 and lead everyone off the cliff. |
| 21:31.00 | Primer | Being a mage he was able to levitate and live. He also made a video of it. |
| 21:40.07 | Primer | https://youtu.be/nAwzr-0B4sw?t=199 |
| 21:40.46 | karl_w_w | nice https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/763428998349062144 |
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| 21:43.37 | jro | Can anyone help verify something - bladestorm spellid for Arms should be 227847 correct? |
| 21:45.21 | jro | probablem is getspellcooldown only seems to look at the active spell/buff not the cooldown of the ability |
| 21:45.24 | jro | *problem |
| 21:46.45 | jro | 236303 seems to operate the same |
| 21:49.35 | jro | works fine for fury bladestorm talent 46924 |
| 22:08.03 | kd3 | ugh. should probably have not gotten my eyes dilated at the optometrist. forgot about the skylights in my office |
| 22:08.31 | Thunder_Child | I don't think most people go to work after that. |
| 22:08.50 | kd3 | I should've gone home, but stuff came up this morning that I need to take care of today |
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| 23:23.48 | tinystomper | anyone work on the GroupFinder in-game? |
| 23:25.09 | kd3 | huzzah. "A new Alliance graveyard has been added in Azshara near to the Illidari anti-invasion camp." |
| 23:25.28 | kd3 | tiny, I'm not aware of anyone in here who messes with the group finder |
| 23:25.37 | bshelden | I noticed I was getting a much closer spawn location last night. Was very happy. |
| 23:25.40 | kd3 | there's probably an addon or two, but I'm not aware of any |
| 23:26.13 | tinystomper | i was looking for one of the devs. was told they're sometimes in channel |
| 23:27.03 | kd3 | they can be on occasion. what's your issue? |
| 23:27.12 | kd3 | if you've got a forum post, we can point them to it |
| 23:28.00 | mfgmfg | undocumented hotfix - spirit healers at GYs in invasions will res you on a timer like in BGs |
| 23:28.28 | Torhal | TheDanW: Awesome! Much appreciated. |
| 23:33.58 | tinystomper | kd3, i'm looking for more of a skype to discuss the GroupFinder. we spent 3 years listening to the community about what they need and it worked fairly well. |
| 23:35.02 | mfgmfg | who's we |
| 23:35.11 | bshelden | One on one voice chat with a dev is... more than a tad unlikely. |
| 23:35.15 | tinystomper | myself and the people in pubvent |
| 23:36.34 | Elmoe | tinystomper: assuming you are the author of oqueue? |
| 23:36.42 | tinystomper | yes |
| 23:38.12 | tinystomper | (btw, to expand on 'we'... if you still had oQueue installed, you could type '/owq thx' to see the list) |
| 23:38.25 | tinystomper | * /oq thx |
| 23:39.33 | kd3 | all I can suggest is that, while skype/discord calls may not happen, we can ensure they see typoed out suggestions/requests/etc |
| 23:39.57 | kd3 | typoed, what a time for a typo. >.> |
| 23:40.30 | tinystomper | it happens... after a few rounds of caffeine. silly fingers move too slow sometimes |
| 23:42.18 | tinystomper | i have posted on the forums, but that's a massive bit bucket |
| 23:42.39 | kd3 | eh, they get read. it's rather unlikely they respond |
| 23:43.45 | tinystomper | one thing we use to notice was the drop in participation when i did a mandatory update due to protocol changes (happened rarely). |
| 23:44.56 | tinystomper | the update would push and for 2-3 days, groups would be sparse and many people would say how they felt like nothing was going on (we had to reassure them to have patience) |
| 23:45.45 | tinystomper | that same feeling has been nonstop w/ the GroupFinder due to how it'll auto-remove groups once filled. |
| 23:46.16 | tinystomper | this results in people opening the GF, looking at rbgs, seeing only 2 or 3, then dropping it |
| 23:46.23 | tinystomper | (for example) |
| 23:47.24 | tinystomper | this is one of those things i believe that's hurt participation. a feeling of 'nothing going on' |
| 23:47.43 | tinystomper | which was compounded by the garrison's feeling of isolation |
| 23:48.01 | kd3 | yah, that has been annoying. what's your suggestion? keep the groups listed, but greyed out? |
| 23:48.11 | kd3 | what happens when there's pages of full groups? |
| 23:48.39 | tinystomper | one solution would be to keep the groups listed and allow for a wait list that would hold people longer then 5 minutes |
| 23:48.58 | tinystomper | this would also help raids if they lose someone.... then they're able to quickly replace and continue |
| 23:49.22 | Neffi | Semlar: If I try to watch Mr Robot episodes legally online on Linux, it asks me to sign in and verify my identity, but if I try on Windows it doesn't. Why is things like this? |
| 23:49.27 | Neffi | Also is this illegal discrimination? |
| 23:49.30 | tinystomper | instead of now, where the group stops and waits until they can find someone.... resulting in a higher probability of someone else leaving |
| 23:49.35 | Gnarfoz | Neffi: sign into what? |
| 23:49.43 | Neffi | Gnarfoz: My cable TV account |
| 23:49.54 | Gnarfoz | you what now? |
| 23:49.59 | Neffi | nods |
| 23:50.34 | Gnarfoz | (I'll not go down that rabbit hole, US TV is just ~different~) |
| 23:50.44 | Gnarfoz | also, I would not have expected to see this guy appear here again after all the shit he pulled. |
| 23:50.51 | tinystomper | eztv.tf ... just saying |
| 23:51.14 | Neffi | getting shit speed for some reason, wanted to start watching now |
| 23:51.22 | Elmoe | tinystomper: for raids I don't think it is an easy due to flexible sizes, so its very common not to have a full group so you don't delist but I can really appreciate how frustrating this must be for fixed size content like RBGs |
| 23:51.30 | Elmoe | s/easy due/issue due/ |
| 23:52.09 | tinystomper | gnarfoz ... me? |
| 23:52.19 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 23:52.24 | tinystomper | what shit?? |
| 23:53.24 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49578 to give a few pointers |
| 23:53.53 | Elmoe | Gnarfoz: don't disagree that move was in poor taste but past is paste, ad hominem in general is not constructive, do you not think the idea he is putting forward right now has merit? |
| 23:54.02 | Neffi | Gnarfoz: I'm curious about your confusion. Is it different in Germany? |
| 23:54.42 | Elmoe | having an option not to auto delist when full is a good idea imo but its hard to say not knowing the backing implementing of groupfinder whether this would introduce considerably more overhead |
| 23:54.46 | Gnarfoz | Neffi: I'm not sure what "cable tv account" is even supposed to be... if I have a cable subscription, I can watch cable TV. That's not related to "online" at all |
| 23:55.26 | Neffi | If I want to watch the content from certain TV networks, like USA Network, I can either watch it on the TV, or I can go to their website and watch it there |
| 23:55.32 | kd3 | gnarfoz, with most pay-tv subscriptions, you can generally log in using your provider credentials at various channel websites to watch online |
| 23:55.38 | Gnarfoz | Elmoe: I wasn't commenting on his current suggestion at all. (I was just immediately reminded of it as soon as "oh we want to skype with some devs" came around... :P) |
| 23:56.01 | tinystomper | the overhead would only be on the group leader, as he/she would hold the list. |
| 23:56.07 | Neffi | They seem to allow you to view some content on certain terms without a subscription, because they have ads in the stream, but it consistently asks me to sign in if my UA is Linux |
| 23:56.13 | Gnarfoz | kd3: ah, paytv... I thought of more general cable tv. |
| 23:56.32 | Elmoe | tinystomper: I don't know enough about the groupfinder implementation to weigh in on that |
| 23:56.42 | Elmoe | tinystomper: good suggestion either way though from a user experience standpoint |
| 23:56.44 | tinystomper | sorry gnarfoz, i'm use to dealing with people directly. i've been doing it for decades and was unaware of the cult status of blizz devs |
| 23:56.46 | karl_w_w | "We had a slight issue with a routine software upgrade. We'll be back momentarily." reddit 1.5 hours ago |
| 23:56.49 | Elmoe | tinystomper: have you already tried posting such suggestions in the forums? |
| 23:57.15 | Elmoe | tinystomper: in the US at least big soft corporations rarely have developers deal directly with customers even if those customers are other developers |
| 23:57.48 | Elmoe | good companies have other support channels specifically for developers though (see AWS CSAs and SAs) but as far as I know Blizzard has no equivalent |
| 23:57.56 | tinystomper | i had mentioned some of them directly to zarhym when we spoke (during beta) |
| 23:58.48 | bshelden | Community Managers are different. Interacting with the public is their job. They in turn filter the noise out and go to the appropriate staff with concerns/feedback/etc. |
| 23:58.52 | tinystomper | during that time he acknowleged that he was unaware i had been trying to reach them due to the increasing network load |
| 23:58.57 | bshelden | Cuts down a lot of the amount of noise the developers need to deal with |
| 23:59.24 | tinystomper | according to zarhym, he was the dev rep people would talk with (he called me) |
| 23:59.40 | Elmoe | bshelden: Blizzard should have a CM specific for the developer community imo |
| 23:59.46 | tinystomper | ^ |
