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| 00:03.05 | kd3 | huh, my first thought was 'you got youself owned, boy' |
| 00:12.54 | Primer | kd3: it's be far more useful to have a phone home bot running than sshd |
| 00:12.59 | Primer | since most people are behind NAT |
| 00:13.19 | Primer | I knew it had to be some anniversary edition thing |
| 00:13.31 | Primer | or whatever that patch is called |
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| 00:17.50 | Gnarfoz | Windows 10 1607. |
| 00:18.27 | Gnarfoz | (just run 'winver') |
| 00:20.15 | karl_w_w | wow i ran winver and it insulted me! |
| 00:20.31 | karl_w_w | This product is licensed to: Dummy |
| 00:26.17 | Gnarfoz | appropriate |
| 00:27.41 | Gnarfoz | Primer: is it actually there before you run bash for the first time and it downloads Ubuntu? |
| 00:29.42 | Primer | Gnarfoz: you lost me |
| 00:31.30 | Primer | I've been using cygwin for ages, had its sshd installed. Installed anniversary patch recently + ubuntu bash to try it out. Tried to rsync my addons/wtf to my work machine today and noticed the MITM attack text from ssh (rsync -e ssh) |
| 00:32.02 | Primer | Found out an ssh server was installed. Later turned it off in services (there are 2) |
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| 00:36.43 | Gnarfoz | yes, but you claimed it "shipped with one", when you have to do at least 3 things to get a usable bash. |
| 00:37.23 | Gnarfoz | hence my question, but you already answered that you only saw it after all steps. so who knows when it actually shows up or what it is part of |
| 00:37.49 | Simca | well, to be fair, windows probably -does- 'ship with it' |
| 00:37.56 | Primer | I sync my addons/wtf at work often enough to know it happened within the last 2 weeks |
| 00:38.05 | Simca | if shipping is referring to the physical media |
| 00:38.13 | Gnarfoz | considering at least the bash portion is entirely a download, the possibility exists that it's not shipping with it |
| 00:38.18 | Simca | which often does contain all optional packages |
| 00:38.34 | Primer | Gnarfoz: do you have this anniversary edition? |
| 00:38.39 | Primer | If so: ssh localhost |
| 00:38.42 | Gnarfoz | :s |
| 00:38.50 | Gnarfoz | why start over, and start over with something I didn't even ask. |
| 00:39.06 | Primer | Or are you being pedantic about my poor choice of words? |
| 00:39.21 | Gnarfoz | half yes, half no |
| 00:39.32 | Gnarfoz | I'm curious if it does actually "ship with it" |
| 00:39.38 | Primer | "usable bash"...I never said anything about a rogue bash |
| 00:39.48 | Primer | I installed bash and presumed it was part of that |
| 00:39.50 | Gnarfoz | or if it only shows up after you a) enable developer mode b) turn on/install WSL c) install bash |
| 00:39.55 | Primer | But as it turns out, it's not |
| 00:40.07 | Primer | I removed bash |
| 00:40.10 | Primer | and it was still there |
| 00:40.14 | Gnarfoz | you're conflating several things and I'm trying to see where this SSH server starts showing up. ;) |
| 00:40.23 | Primer | if that helps explain things any better |
| 00:40.34 | Primer | I can't answer that question without trying everything all over again |
| 00:40.38 | Gnarfoz | if you don't intend to use it, care to try and also turn off WSL? |
| 00:40.52 | Gnarfoz | maybe the sshd services will disappear ^^ |
| 00:41.17 | Gnarfoz | also, ssh localhost rejects the password I set for my user |
| 00:41.30 | Primer | heh |
| 00:41.37 | Primer | I would never have typed mine |
| 00:41.49 | Primer | since I only use ssh with public key auth |
| 00:42.15 | Primer | Asking for a password is a red flag |
| 00:42.20 | Gnarfoz | well, it doesn't seem to be reading /etc/ssh/sshd_config, so good luck configuring that |
| 00:42.43 | Gnarfoz | it's really not, but hey |
| 00:42.49 | Primer | is that c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\ssh? :P |
| 00:42.54 | Gnarfoz | what. |
| 00:42.58 | Primer | sigh... |
| 00:43.08 | Gnarfoz | I doubt that's where this filesystem lives |
| 00:43.12 | Primer | Have you never edited the windows hosts file? |
| 00:43.12 | Gnarfoz | where DOES it live? |
| 00:43.16 | Primer | NFI |
| 00:43.18 | Primer | I use cygwin |
| 00:43.44 | Gnarfoz | anyway, the sshd_config ships with PasswordAuthentication no |
| 00:44.24 | Gnarfoz | (not surprising, since it's probably the regular Ubuntu one and this sshd service uses something else entirely) |
| 00:44.59 | Primer | https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/4w4sew/windows_10_has_a_native_ssh_server/d659316 |
| 00:46.55 | Gnarfoz | ah, it takes the abbreviated Microsoft Account name as a username |
| 00:47.05 | Gnarfoz | not the WSL/bash user |
| 00:47.32 | Gnarfoz | Primer: ! now we know :) |
| 00:48.53 | Gnarfoz | now if we could make that spawn one of these WSL-bashs... :D |
| 00:49.33 | Primer | I'm sure you could just stop the service, bash, sudo apt install openssh-server... |
| 00:49.36 | Primer | and it'd work |
| 00:50.07 | Gnarfoz | (no need to install, it's already there, hence the config file being present) |
| 00:50.19 | Primer | right |
| 00:50.24 | Gnarfoz | I tried starting it, it never appears... but good point: port 22 would be in use |
| 00:50.26 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:50.31 | Primer | There was some discussion regarding it in that reddit |
| 00:50.39 | Primer | yeah, it's silently failing |
| 00:50.44 | Primer | due to the port being in use |
| 00:51.43 | Gnarfoz | 2016-08-10 02:51:14Server version: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7 |
| 00:51.43 | Gnarfoz | 2016-08-10 02:51:14Server unexpectedly closed network connection |
| 00:51.45 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 00:52.01 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't like me ;) |
| 00:52.54 | Primer | throw an authorized_keys in there |
| 00:53.09 | Gnarfoz | why? it's not even giving me authentication methods to choose from |
| 00:53.28 | Gnarfoz | fails right away |
| 00:53.35 | Primer | Mine would do the same |
| 00:53.43 | Primer | since it only supports public key |
| 00:53.57 | Primer | mine == the shit I give a fuck about |
| 00:54.16 | Primer | but it'd report failed pubkey |
| 00:54.18 | Primer | at least |
| 00:55.01 | Gnarfoz | I bet your server would also send a list of authentication methods it will accept, and only close the connection if the client doesn't provide one of those |
| 00:55.10 | Gnarfoz | or did you patch it yourself to do something else? |
| 00:56.45 | Primer | I was referring to a simplistic attempt to access it, obviously |
| 00:57.08 | Primer | I presume you get the log level to debug in sshd_config and restart it? |
| 00:57.18 | Primer | presuming logs are being generated |
| 00:57.18 | Gnarfoz | the fun with that is: there is no log :D |
| 00:57.28 | Primer | run it in the foreground :) |
| 00:57.28 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how this whole thing actually works |
| 00:57.37 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I guess I could do that |
| 00:57.43 | Primer | I bet it can't bind to pty or something |
| 00:58.00 | Primer | since there's probably no such thing in that environment |
| 00:58.03 | Gnarfoz | entirely possible |
| 00:58.14 | Gnarfoz | maybe it wants... *gasp* unix sockets |
| 00:58.24 | Gnarfoz | (which don't exist in this environment, yet) |
| 00:58.52 | Primer | or perhaps it's trying to do privilege...de-escalation? |
| 00:58.55 | Primer | err |
| 00:59.00 | Primer | privilege separation |
| 00:59.11 | Gnarfoz | we're having a good-bye rainbow generator party for Varian |
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| 00:59.29 | Primer | dammit, did I miss an event? |
| 00:59.33 | Gnarfoz | it's possibly doing a bunch of things that need a bunch of other things that don't exist, yet |
| 01:00.16 | Primer | well, all that I need exists in cygwin |
| 01:00.17 | End | I've only skimmed the conversation, but WSL runs /init which doesn't get you upstart or anything like that |
| 01:00.21 | Gnarfoz | if you missed that Demon Hunters and the first "real" stage of the Legion launch event kicked off earlier (US) / now (EU), then yes |
| 01:00.36 | End | it seems like /init is only there to launch bash shells |
| 01:00.38 | Primer | I would have been at work anyhow |
| 01:00.49 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if I should try and stay up, to see how fast the patching goes |
| 01:01.09 | Gnarfoz | anyone got an vaguely precise time for when US realms came back up? |
| 01:01.28 | Gnarfoz | (I know it was before the target time, but by how much?) |
| 01:04.19 | Gnarfoz | Primer: chroot("/var/run/sshd"): Function not implemented [preauth] :D |
| 01:04.51 | Gnarfoz | so that particual (ab)use is not quite possible, yet ^^ |
| 01:07.37 | Thunder_Child | Gnarfoz: Looks like it was up as of 10:00 AM. So ~ 1 hour after the start. |
| 01:08.08 | Gnarfoz | Thunder_Child: server team arriving in this decade! nice. |
| 01:08.19 | Gnarfoz | (they really improved a lot recently) |
| 01:08.40 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if they just replaced Oracle with a bash script, awk, sed, and some text files to make it happen. |
| 01:10.09 | Gnarfoz | Primer: I'm more concerned with there being a firewall rule for it by default, that allows it, and the rule is set to apply to all types of networks (private, domain, and public) |
| 01:10.37 | Gnarfoz | (you still have to enable Developer Mode, but... that's just a radiobutton.) |
| 01:11.06 | Gnarfoz | I'll make sure to do a portscan at our LAN in October. :D |
| 01:15.36 | znf | Gnarfoz, you think they using oracle? |
| 01:16.15 | Gnarfoz | unless they got rid of it (which I severely doubt, considering "Oracle" is pretty much synonymous with "vendor lock-in") |
| 01:16.51 | znf | how do you know? |
| 01:17.24 | Gnarfoz | because they've said so in the past |
| 01:17.30 | znf | cool |
| 01:17.32 | znf | well, not cool |
| 01:17.34 | znf | because oracle |
| 01:18.09 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 01:20.21 | Gnarfoz | also, there's previously been job postings for it on their page. http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/company/careers/posting.html?id=16000KI (although this one indicates that it's not directly for WoW) |
| 01:26.59 | Torhal | Cairenn: WTF? I was sitting on the WoWI forums, doing something in another window, when suddenly it refreshes to http://www.lolking.net/ |
| 01:27.16 | Torhal | dolby: ^ |
| 01:28.59 | dolby | you sure? We dont even use the same host or dns or cdn, etc anymore |
| 01:29.20 | Torhal | Unless I somehow clicked on it without realizing. |
| 01:29.24 | Torhal | That was weird as hell. |
| 01:34.53 | Cairenn | Torhal is weird as hell |
| 01:35.18 | Torhal | Always, Cairenn. |
| 01:35.21 | dolby | Could have been a cat |
| 01:35.22 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 01:35.28 | Torhal | ('-' ) (._. ) (o_o) ( ._.) ( '-') |
| 01:35.32 | Cairenn | hug |
| 01:35.42 | Torhal | rehug |
| 01:35.44 | Torhal | lol |
| 01:40.16 | Gnarfoz | Primer: also fun: https://github.com/microsoft/bashonwindows/issues/637 |
| 01:42.41 | Primer | Gnarfoz: I just don't get what MS expects to accomplish by doing this |
| 01:42.47 | Primer | Embrace and extend? |
| 01:43.03 | Primer | I mean, people stopped falling for that long ago...didn't they? |
| 01:43.33 | Stanzilla | it's mostly dev related |
| 01:43.47 | Stanzilla | many web/app devs left for OS X because the win environment is horrible for it |
| 01:44.05 | Stanzilla | and having native unix tools matters more to them |
| 01:44.24 | Primer | There's been a simple solution to that for decades: cygwin |
| 01:44.29 | Primer | Well |
| 01:44.33 | Primer | maybe not simple :) |
| 01:44.59 | Stanzilla | that's the problem, yeah |
| 01:45.32 | Primer | I resorted to using cygwin for different kinds of scripting in windows for a long time |
| 01:46.13 | Primer | for example, before OBS, I used to use fraps. I had an icon that'd spawn mintty, encode the latest video with ffmpeg, and upload it to youtube. |
| 01:46.18 | Primer | Single click encode + upload |
| 01:46.42 | Primer | since fraps was raw video |
| 01:47.04 | Primer | I used to impress my guildies by having videos online before the raid was even over |
| 01:47.47 | Primer | I actually tried to script it as a batch file...it was impossible |
| 01:48.33 | Gnarfoz | it was certainly possible, something else was just easier. |
| 01:48.47 | Primer | cygwin's also had a working X implementation for a very long time too |
| 01:49.04 | Gnarfoz | so does Xming |
| 01:49.07 | Primer | export DISPLAY=remote-host:0.0 |
| 01:49.10 | Primer | xhost + |
| 01:49.12 | Primer | etc... |
| 01:49.29 | Gnarfoz | anyway, cygwin is not "native", everything depends on that one dll |
| 01:50.05 | Gnarfoz | anyway, now we get native stuff. \o/ |
| 01:50.11 | Primer | Is this any different? |
| 01:50.26 | Primer | It's using some compatibility layer here too, from what I read |
| 01:50.32 | Primer | Except it's called lxsys.dll |
| 01:50.33 | Gnarfoz | if all you look at is "can I run program"? then no |
| 01:51.03 | Gnarfoz | but ntdll.dll also exists ;) |
| 01:51.12 | Gnarfoz | would also call that a compatibility layer |
| 01:51.16 | Gnarfoz | *would you |
| 01:51.21 | Primer | right...HAL |
| 01:51.25 | Primer | AFAIK |
| 01:51.34 | Primer | Dave? What are you doing Dave? |
| 01:51.38 | Primer | j/k |
| 01:52.05 | Gnarfoz | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Windows_2000_architecture.svg < it fits in the top right box |
| 01:52.41 | Gnarfoz | (the posix and os/2 subsystems are long gone, though) |
| 01:53.03 | Gnarfoz | Dave Cutler had a grand vision ^^ |
| 01:54.14 | Primer | What's the difference between kernel mode drivers and just drivers? |
| 01:54.26 | Primer | Because surely "drivers" would be between hardware and HAL |
| 01:54.46 | Primer | well, something would be there |
| 01:56.01 | Gnarfoz | where do you see non-kernel mode drivers in that diagram? |
| 01:56.39 | Primer | Why do you always ask such passive-aggressive questions? |
| 01:56.46 | Primer | Is it because you're German? |
| 01:57.38 | Primer | Anyhow, time to go home |
| 01:57.52 | Gnarfoz | passive what |
| 01:58.03 | Gnarfoz | also, wtf at that |
| 01:58.07 | Gnarfoz | I don't even |
| 01:58.50 | Gnarfoz | it's based on Windows 2000, the only drivers are kernel-mode drivers. |
| 01:59.26 | Gnarfoz | (I find that sounds way more condescending than my question, but that's text-based communication for you.) |
| 02:00.18 | nebula | stop being an arrogant asshole, Gnarfoz, jesus |
| 02:01.03 | Gnarfoz | nebula: does that fall under on-demand or virtual? |
| 02:01.36 | Gnarfoz | Thunder_Child: all our realms are back up, so I guess they were as fast or a tiny bit faster here. yay server team! \o/ |
| 02:02.12 | Thunder_Child | Gnarfoz: More like yay over time rollout instead of single point of failure expansion. |
| 02:02.36 | Gnarfoz | I don't see how that relates to how long patching takes :o |
| 02:03.23 | Gnarfoz | the game will face the same challenges on the 30th as before, won't it? |
| 02:05.09 | Gnarfoz | :D Anduin is in the keep, but the memorial is missing - because I haven't done the questline, yet, I assume... you'd think they'd gate Anduin behind it, too |
| 02:25.05 | nebula | wsl doesn't handle symlinks? awkward |
| 02:26.29 | Thunder_Child | Gnarfoz: The more things you patch at once, the more likely thing are going to not work trying to come back up. |
| 02:27.48 | Semlar | is there some way to get tomtom to point to the nearest point |
| 02:28.04 | Semlar | instead of whatever it does by default |
| 02:28.13 | Semlar | seems to be the last waypoint you added |
| 02:28.27 | nebula | i think there is an option to point at the closest |
| 02:28.44 | Semlar | none of the context menu options do it |
| 02:28.57 | nebula | i mean in the actual config |
| 02:29.05 | Semlar | there's nothing in the interface menu |
| 02:29.32 | Semlar | oh it's not displaying the expand-menu button |
| 02:31.20 | Semlar | alright, there's an option to not "automatically set waypoint arrow" |
| 02:32.12 | Semlar | i see no way to get it to point to the nearest poi once it's pointing at something else |
| 02:33.42 | nebula | yea, i lied, i was thinking of an addon i wrote to point at the closest poi |
| 02:33.51 | Torhal | I have code in Archy! |
| 02:33.53 | Torhal | >.> |
| 02:34.28 | Semlar | >_> |
| 02:35.16 | Semlar | alright what if i just remove all of the waypoints and reset it with that option disabled |
| 02:35.43 | mfgmfg | hm, can't link artifact traits in game for some reason, such as http://www.wowhead.com/spell=197241/catlike-reflexes either on beta or live |
| 02:36.29 | Semlar | also apparently it can't point to karasarang or the jade forest because they're both on the broken isles or something |
| 02:50.19 | mischanix | mfgmfg: try using wowdb's in-game links :^) |
| 02:53.47 | mfgmfg | that worked, thank you mischanix |
| 03:30.35 | mckenziemc | hacks Semlar's TomTom so that it always points behind him. |
| 03:35.16 | kd3 | well, no ZG run for me today... https://twitter.com/Kaydeethree/status/763216946607316992 |
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| 04:48.22 | Semlar | why doesn't my flying cloud work underwater |
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| 05:06.55 | nebula | it's magical |
| 05:07.33 | Torhal | cancels nebula out with magical water. |
| 05:07.47 | nebula | melts |
| 05:11.00 | mckenziemc | mixes nebula into Torhal's water supply. |
| 05:15.05 | Torhal | mixes mckenziemc into the leper colony. |
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| 05:25.13 | kd3 | omg what a thing to waste my roll luck on. just got my second left binding |
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| 05:42.38 | mckenziemc | need any spare parts while i'm here, Torhal? |
| 05:43.21 | Torhal | No, mckenziemc. You can keep what you find. |
| 05:44.59 | mckenziemc | all of it? :( |
| 05:45.13 | Torhal | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 05:47.22 | mckenziemc | creates FrankenFisker and hugs Cairenn. |
| 05:47.34 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
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| 06:02.11 | fewyn | Anyone happen to know where to find the nethershard vendors? |
| 06:04.42 | kd3 | sw/org/legion invasion sites |
| 06:07.27 | fewyn | where at exactly? =p |
| 06:07.32 | fewyn | i have tried finding it |
| 06:07.37 | kd3 | sw? mage district, by the shattered lamb |
| 06:07.42 | kd3 | dunno in org |
| 06:21.08 | Stanzilla | I was prepared, http://i.imgur.com/JaWDfIX.jpg |
| 06:21.17 | Stanzilla | that should be enough bank/bag space for a new char |
| 06:22.50 | nevcairiel | its never enough bank space |
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| 06:30.10 | Fisker | declares war on august, september and october and hugs Cairenn |
| 06:30.23 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 06:39.40 | mfgmfg | in org it's right near the flightpoint |
| 06:47.02 | LexSfX | WoWI is nowhere near as nice as curseforge imo |
| 06:47.15 | LexSfX | @ Gnarfoz, responding to earlier stuff |
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| 06:57.20 | Stanzilla | meany |
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| 07:37.31 | nebula | x-powered-by: PHP/5.4.45-4+deprecated+dontuse+deb.sury.org~precise+1 |
| 07:37.34 | nebula | that's reassuring |
| 07:38.15 | Shockah|Work | lol |
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| 08:06.12 | Simca | _Npc 100981 Prophet Velen (First seen 2016-08-10 06:27:58 UTC) |
| 08:06.12 | Simca | - Name from "Trigger_Cannon_Crash_Fixed_Target" to "Prophet Velen" |
| 08:06.15 | Simca | nice recycling |
| 08:06.29 | Alram | classic Trigger_Cannon_Crash_Fixed_Target |
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| 08:09.05 | xmyno | that doesn't seem canon.. |
| 08:15.01 | VIad | awesome idea for tutorials: api to take a screenshot of the screen, then later display it in a frame :d |
| 08:15.35 | VIad | just peaked at the class trial for mage, finger of frost tutorial, it's fine, but it didn't clearly show what interface elements tell you when you have fingers of frost (the middle screen effect, and the buff) |
| 08:16.19 | VIad | it would be cool if after the fingers of frost bit, a frame popup with the image showing how it looked, and where the interface also showed the proc was |
| 08:17.23 | Miiru | the shard vendor(the one in og) is only available after doing the broken shore scenario |
| 08:17.25 | Miiru | ? |
| 08:17.39 | VIad | could be phasing problems |
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| 08:30.48 | Miiru | and what's up with that 4 hour cooldown for invasions, is it 4 hours per invasion set or what?! |
| 08:30.56 | Miiru | could do 2 new ones every hour |
| 08:31.12 | VIad | blue said the frequency would increase over time |
| 08:31.31 | nevcairiel | indeed, it gets more as more time passes |
| 08:32.08 | Miiru | but shouldn't it start at 4 hours? |
| 08:32.17 | Miiru | 1 invasion every 4 hours? |
| 08:32.24 | Miiru | (per continent maybe) |
| 08:32.46 | nevcairiel | its one per continent every 4 right now, or at least supposed to be |
| 08:32.59 | Miiru | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:33.23 | nevcairiel | well the 4 hours dont work like you might think |
| 08:33.33 | nevcairiel | every location spawns for 4 hours and you can do every location once |
| 08:33.38 | Freddie | I should do some of those |
| 08:33.45 | nevcairiel | so if you do the old location shortly before it ends, you can do the new location right after |
| 08:34.00 | Miiru | ah ok |
| 08:34.11 | Miiru | i guess the loactions are choosen randomly? |
| 08:36.08 | Miiru | i also like the fact that they give you a 725 weapon :D |
| 08:38.16 | VIad | I wonder if there is time to get all the transmog sets before the event ends |
| 08:38.30 | VIad | given on beta I got like 10 shards for one invasion |
| 08:40.15 | Miiru | I did 4 and i have 129 shards now |
| 08:40.36 | nevcairiel | you get around 30-40 per and 10 extra for the first or so |
| 08:40.49 | Stanzilla | you can get more now |
| 08:40.57 | Stanzilla | they buffed shard drops from commanders |
| 08:41.10 | VIad | commanders are elites that spawn on the map that you can go kill? |
| 08:41.17 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 08:41.27 | Miiru | plus you get gear as reward for them, so it's one less set of appearance to buy per armor class you do them on |
| 08:41.48 | nevcairiel | is that the same look? |
| 08:41.48 | Stanzilla | really? |
| 08:41.55 | nevcairiel | because thats just draenor crafted gear in a new color :p |
| 08:42.58 | Stanzilla | I havent seen commanders drop gear yet |
| 08:43.12 | nevcairiel | i got like 4 pieces from 2 invasions |
| 08:43.30 | Stanzilla | maybe I'm thinking about the wrong mobs |
| 08:43.36 | Stanzilla | what exactly are commanders? |
| 08:44.13 | Stanzilla | every skull on the map with a name? |
| 08:44.30 | nevcairiel | or maybe only the last guy, dunno |
| 08:44.32 | Stanzilla | ohh |
| 08:44.34 | Stanzilla | no |
| 08:44.40 | Stanzilla | you dont get a loot message for the green chests |
| 08:44.43 | Stanzilla | I just didnt notice |
| 08:45.10 | Miiru | according to wow head the items that drop in the chest have the same appearances as the ones you can buy with the shards |
| 08:45.28 | nevcairiel | what about the transmog set for 200 shards |
| 08:45.50 | VIad | if I use a ogre cache on my DH without garrison, it will still be added on the currency tab right? |
| 08:46.16 | Miiru | the 200 shard transmog sets have the same appearances as the drop gear, that's what I tried to say :D |
| 08:47.04 | Stanzilla | that would be convenient |
| 08:47.57 | nevcairiel | also boring |
| 08:48.05 | nevcairiel | i thought those might have a nice look |
| 08:48.07 | nevcairiel | but its crap |
| 08:49.10 | Miiru | it's pretty ugly, yes |
| 08:49.39 | Miiru | haven't looked at the weapon models yet, are they reskinned version? |
| 08:50.22 | Stanzilla | doesnt look very special http://i.imgur.com/7LOf17Q.png |
| 08:50.24 | Stanzilla | that's the mace |
| 09:08.38 | Stanzilla | didnt they say that you can skip the broken shore scenario if you did it on one character? |
| 09:09.41 | nevcairiel | you can |
| 09:10.04 | Stanzilla | where/how? |
| 09:11.57 | nevcairiel | at the recruiter person i think |
| 09:12.27 | Stanzilla | lemme check |
| 09:12.49 | Stanzilla | doesnt look like it |
| 09:12.55 | Stanzilla | or does it have to happen before you do anyting? |
| 09:14.00 | Miiru | at beta, you could tell that quest npc outside of orgrimmar that you already know what happened |
| 09:16.46 | VIad | hmm, do you know what tells me if a quest is in the log properly, or just a world area bounty type quest? that just appears when I am there - GetQuestLogTitle |
| 09:16.58 | Stanzilla | oh damn |
| 09:17.09 | Stanzilla | looks like that option is gone after you started the quest |
| 09:17.14 | Stanzilla | I thought I could skip the scenario only |
| 09:19.41 | xmyno | VIad: tagId, tagName, worldQuestType, isRare, isElite, tradeskillLineIndex = GetQuestTagInfo(questId) |
| 09:19.46 | xmyno | maybe this |
| 09:19.50 | VIad | oh |
| 09:20.09 | xmyno | worldQuestType is only set for world quests |
| 09:20.30 | VIad | got nil |
| 09:20.32 | VIad | on 38819 |
| 09:21.35 | VIad | thing is it seems that GetQuestProgressBarPercent returns data regardless what quest it is |
| 09:21.40 | VIad | works for normal quests too :p |
| 09:21.52 | VIad | problem with that is I can't then use that to determine if there is a 0-100% bar on the quest or not |
| 09:22.23 | VIad | atm I even found a real quest with a built in 0-100% not the area specific once that popup and that arent part of the quest log :p |
| 09:22.27 | VIad | hmm |
| 09:22.35 | VIad | I should check how the quest log knows what it shows and not |
| 09:22.48 | VIad | since basically if its not in the log, then its not a quest I picked up :p |
| 09:25.08 | xmyno | http://wow.gamepedia.com/API_GetQuestObjectiveInfo |
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| 09:29.50 | nevcairiel | VIad: i think those random popup quests should set isTask to true |
| 09:30.14 | VIad | the quest log does this check: ( not isTask and (not isBounty or IsQuestComplete(questID))) |
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| 09:30.42 | VIad | but question is, there a good way to extract if the quest has a 0-100% bar for it or not? |
| 09:30.45 | nevcairiel | isBounty is for the "do 4 world quest" thingys on the map |
| 09:30.48 | VIad | like atm I got a normal quest with a 0-100% bar :p |
| 09:31.17 | VIad | basically I need to know if the quest is showing a progress bar, or not |
| 09:31.30 | VIad | so I can use the progress API to get the percentage or do the regular behavior |
| 09:32.21 | VIad | GetQuestProgressBarPercent returns data regardless if there is a bar or not :p |
| 09:32.25 | VIad | thats why I am struggling atm |
| 09:32.32 | nevcairiel | go through the objectives with GetQuestLogLeaderBoard or such and check if one has the type = "progressbar" |
| 09:32.56 | nevcairiel | or GetQuestObjectiveInfo |
| 09:33.00 | nevcairiel | return mostly the same info |
| 09:33.56 | VIad | oh I see |
| 09:34.15 | VIad | GetQuestObjectiveInfo can work I already use it a bit below the check |
| 09:34.27 | VIad | it showed progressbar for the quest in log that has a bar too |
| 09:35.24 | VIad | thanks nevcairiel |
| 09:36.18 | VIad | if you tell me there is a way to get the progress bar of party units, that would be amazing :P |
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| 09:38.51 | VIad | dunno if IsUnitOnQuestByQuestID works |
| 09:38.53 | VIad | on such special quests |
| 09:39.11 | VIad | or how to get the progress :p |
| 09:39.24 | VIad | scanning tooltip probably just says the objective 0/1 |
| 09:39.26 | VIad | not the % |
| 09:42.16 | Stanzilla | nope, Miiru can't skip anymore |
| 09:42.18 | Stanzilla | I just tested |
| 09:42.24 | Stanzilla | at least not on that npc |
| 09:43.21 | nevcairiel | maybe you need to have everythig finished |
| 09:43.41 | Stanzilla | yeah probably |
| 09:45.00 | VIad | does it mean the new dalaran HS works now? |
| 09:45.04 | VIad | that we are flagged for owning legion |
| 09:45.16 | VIad | DH access |
| 09:46.08 | nevcairiel | you have been flagged for owning legion the day your launcher changed the style, like minutes after you pre-ordered =p |
| 09:47.09 | VIad | not ingame |
| 09:47.18 | VIad | game told me I dont own legion when trying to use the new dalaran HS :p |
| 09:47.32 | VIad | when I tried to zone into a legion zone, I got an error in chat sys message |
| 09:47.56 | nevcairiel | where would you even get it |
| 09:48.00 | VIad | old dalran |
| 09:48.04 | VIad | speak to neutral keeper |
| 09:48.11 | VIad | had an option "oh I lost my..." |
| 09:48.18 | VIad | since she is used in new dalaran too for that function |
| 09:48.20 | VIad | same npc id :p |
| 09:48.26 | nevcairiel | it'll probably keep saying the same thing though |
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| 09:48.37 | nevcairiel | legion hasnt launched yet =p |
| 09:52.34 | Miiru | lol i just crashed into an legion airship because of autoflight :D |
| 09:53.48 | Miiru | nearly killed me :o |
| 10:00.31 | karl_w_w | VIad, https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/4wzkdh/psa_devdota2com_possibly_has_been_hacked_july/ |
| 10:00.47 | VIad | ah crap, karl_w_w |
| 10:01.11 | VIad | thank god, it was a shit password ;d |
| 10:01.16 | VIad | generated |
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| 10:03.50 | karl_w_w | oh openraid was hacked last year, didnt know that |
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| 10:49.17 | karl_w_w | god I actually hate "mobile" versions of websites SO MUCH |
| 10:49.39 | karl_w_w | they're fucking terrible, I never use them even on mobile |
| 10:50.04 | karl_w_w | and then you get to a website that sends you to the mobile site from your desktop browser |
| 10:50.16 | karl_w_w | and they dont even provide a "use the full website" link |
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| 13:10.53 | Kee | I think I should share this: Just got an email about dev.dota2.com (official Valve dota2 developer forum) data leak. If you dev both on Valve and Blizzard games, be awared. |
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| 13:16.44 | Kee | Original e-mail from valvesoftware.com (removed e-mail address): http://pastebin.com/LLwbG9Qy |
| 13:17.32 | Simca | _Npc 67384 Judgment (First seen 2016-07-20 14:26:09 UTC) |
| 13:17.32 | Simca | - Name from "Judgement" to "Judgment" |
| 13:17.43 | Simca | Ghostcrawler's spirit lives on |
| 13:26.54 | nevcairiel | by using british words? :d |
| 13:31.30 | karl_w_w | by spelling correctly |
| 13:31.51 | nevcairiel | both are valid in the original english :p |
| 13:32.19 | Simca | yeah, he tweeted or posted about it once - he was behind the change in spelling for paladin spells |
| 13:32.36 | Simca | i guess they finally extended that to NPCs named Judgement |
| 13:32.55 | Simca | wonder if they'll change Judgement Armor (Paladin T2) |
| 13:33.06 | Simca | it's one of the last things using the old spelling |
| 13:33.45 | Simca | oh, they did. lol |
| 13:44.58 | Thunder_Child | Personally I prefer the spelling of affixed words that don't drop random letters. |
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| 14:01.53 | Simca | Thunder_Child: same |
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| 14:14.59 | VIad | nevcairiel: HBD had a weird behavior on the minimap widget i passed it. like it moved relative to my and its location. this wasnt a problem pre DH patch. |
| 14:15.12 | Torhal | Ok, Semlar. Your turn. I know you can do this as an AddOn: https://wow.curseforge.com/addons/territory-overlays/ |
| 14:15.16 | VIad | stuff like parenting, does HBD properly adjust those when you pass a widget to it? |
| 14:15.36 | Torhal | None of that silly texture-replacement crap, man. Get to it. |
| 14:15.41 | VIad | yes Semlar |
| 14:15.47 | VIad | parse the WMO and make a real addon |
| 14:18.51 | VIad | btw can DH do broken shore intro? |
| 14:18.56 | Thunder_Child | No. |
| 14:18.59 | VIad | oki doki |
| 14:19.07 | VIad | can you summon someone into the broken shore? :p |
| 14:19.13 | VIad | like warlock |
| 14:19.15 | VIad | or RAF |
| 14:19.21 | Thunder_Child | Their storyline is simultaniously happening. |
| 14:19.24 | Simca | it's an instance |
| 14:20.30 | Thunder_Child | I know model replacement is against the tos, texure replacment isn't? |
| 14:23.05 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: Been a thing for years. |
| 14:23.17 | Torhal | Entire UI texture replacement and such. |
| 14:24.00 | Torhal | You just drop them into a specific path and it overrides the defaults - without removing them. You delete the folder or specific files and the defaults just start working again. |
| 14:24.27 | VIad | soudns too |
| 14:24.32 | VIad | sounds* like rhonin dalaran speech :p |
| 14:25.56 | Torhal | People use that to quiet gun sounds, for example. |
| 14:26.07 | Thunder_Child | Torhal: For some reason I was thinking the map was 3D world....Too early in the morning for me. |
| 14:26.14 | Torhal | Hehe |
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| 14:34.48 | Thunder_Child | I seem to be missing something, what is the point of that mod? |
| 14:35.31 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: At-a-glance "I'm in the wrong fucking territory on this PvP server" despite the fact that a zone change colors the name. |
| 14:36.51 | Thunder_Child | Is that something new? I stay away from PvP servers, I prefer to not have rage. |
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| 14:41.26 | VIad | plenty of pve realms in the group finder |
| 14:41.29 | VIad | :d |
| 14:41.57 | VIad | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/4x0x4w/how_to_obtain_alainas_bonnet/ |
| 14:43.43 | Miiru | the 'interesting' thing is that she seems to kill herself and her 2 children after getting the news |
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| 14:54.23 | VIad | to get invasion currency, do I need to actively fight to get the currency? |
| 14:54.26 | VIad | or just being in zone is enough? |
| 14:54.49 | Miiru | you can afk |
| 14:54.56 | Miiru | you get a bit less but oh well |
| 14:55.11 | Miiru | by the end of the invasions you'll have gazillions of them anyway |
| 14:55.20 | Andols2 | Is the broken shore going to stay in the game so you can do it if you level up something new or does it dissappear on launch? |
| 14:55.27 | VIad | since I cant like tag all the elites :p |
| 14:55.30 | VIad | over the entire zone |
| 15:04.57 | mfgmfg2 | so russia got silver in women's gymnastics but they were closer, points wise, to 8th place than to 1st place (USA) |
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| 15:06.21 | mfgmfg2 | if there are a couple elites near each other, i tag both if they're getting killed atthe same time |
| 15:07.38 | Thunder_Child | Other than transmog, is there a reason to do broken shore stuff on more than one character? |
| 15:08.06 | mfgmfg2 | bonnet? think that's alliance only if you did it on horde |
| 15:11.09 | VIad | invaded westfall and hillsbrad |
| 15:11.14 | VIad | are these the only active once atm? |
| 15:11.19 | VIad | nvm |
| 15:11.22 | VIad | most in the west :p |
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| 15:16.28 | VIad | this is weird |
| 15:16.30 | VIad | each time I get to a zone |
| 15:16.33 | VIad | it just starts |
| 15:16.37 | VIad | is it server or? :p |
| 15:16.57 | Semlar | replaces torhal's textures with mushrooms |
| 15:17.44 | Semlar | i'm confused, doesn't the game already tell you what zones are what faction |
| 15:18.31 | VIad | horde towns are friendly |
| 15:18.35 | VIad | just not the players ofc |
| 15:18.56 | VIad | wish I could hide nameplates of players that are not pvp flagged |
| 15:18.59 | VIad | they appear yellow to me |
| 15:28.02 | VIad | 3 invasions = 200 shards |
| 15:28.07 | VIad | 1 hour of gaming |
| 15:28.18 | Miiru | it is nice that with these 4 appearances pakcs, they show you if you already own a few pieces or all of them |
| 15:28.39 | mfgmfg2 | VIad, seems low - were you just sitting and leeching? |
| 15:28.44 | VIad | no |
| 15:28.51 | VIad | fighting as much as I can |
| 15:29.02 | VIad | mostly elites and bosses |
| 15:29.03 | mfgmfg2 | i get about 60-65 shards per zone |
| 15:29.15 | VIad | maybe the hotfix didnt hit my realm yet |
| 15:29.17 | mfgmfg2 | so 1 cycle is 120-130 shards |
| 15:29.35 | mfgmfg2 | or are you saying you did 3 zones |
| 15:29.45 | VIad | I did 3 zones |
| 15:29.47 | VIad | on my way to 4th |
| 15:30.05 | VIad | got 66 shards per zone |
| 15:30.09 | VIad | statistically :p |
| 15:30.29 | mfgmfg2 | ok that's about right then |
| 15:31.10 | VIad | all zones spawn at once in 4h cycles? |
| 15:32.42 | nevcairiel | 2 zones spawn every 4 hours |
| 15:33.05 | nevcairiel | the number of shards greatly depends how many champions you kill |
| 15:34.29 | VIad | as a team effort? |
| 15:34.37 | nevcairiel | no, you personally |
| 15:34.43 | VIad | so I just gotta tag and run around :p |
| 15:35.03 | nevcairiel | they are too far, and presumably you might need to stay in fight with them to get things |
| 15:35.24 | nevcairiel | best would be a pack of players that just go from one to the other |
| 15:36.40 | VIad | killed 3 |
| 15:36.42 | VIad | event ended |
| 15:36.49 | VIad | too many people :p |
| 15:36.53 | VIad | next stage now |
| 15:36.54 | nevcairiel | every champion is like 5-10 shards |
| 15:37.11 | VIad | doesnt seem guaranteed |
| 15:37.16 | VIad | what about buildings? |
| 15:37.25 | VIad | or just forget about those? |
| 15:37.27 | nevcairiel | those dont give extra shards as far as i know |
| 15:38.35 | VIad | tbh everything should be worth some shards |
| 15:39.17 | VIad | less geared would nibble on the edges |
| 15:41.30 | Ressy | I've increased my ilvl on my alt fairly well from the ilvl 700 stuff from invasions. :D |
| 15:41.46 | VIad | pvp realms are a bit weird invasion wise |
| 15:41.49 | VIad | too much pvp friendly fire |
| 15:42.03 | VIad | most dont pvp, just happens to graze the tank with aoe and kill him :p |
| 15:42.15 | Ressy | I like how they've implemented the thing where you have to manually flag to hit someone who's pvp. |
| 15:42.37 | Ressy | Hordies were flagged on invasion bosses hoping someone would accidentally get flagged. |
| 15:42.51 | VIad | contested zones |
| 15:42.52 | Ressy | was hilarious seeing the warning popping up instead of accidentally hitting them. |
| 15:42.54 | VIad | doesnt matter |
| 15:47.02 | karl_w_w | are there any google events coming up? |
| 15:48.00 | karl_w_w | or other events where google has a presence |
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| 16:12.21 | Miiru | i wonder why they didn't make the weapons purchasable |
| 16:12.59 | Miiru | All weapons, including Glaive of the Fallen, can be found in Large Legion Chest; the weapons must be appropriate for your armor type and loot specialization. |
| 16:13.12 | Miiru | so how to get the glaive when not playing a dh? oO |
| 16:13.36 | Miiru | ah the vendor sells it |
| 16:13.37 | Miiru | ok |
| 16:13.40 | Miiru | fait enough |
| 16:13.43 | Miiru | *fair |
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| 16:41.28 | VIad | oh, invasions are per char? so I can log on multiple |
| 16:41.32 | VIad | and do the same zones :p |
| 16:41.37 | VIad | for the transmog packages |
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| 16:45.47 | Ressy | yeah |
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| 17:03.43 | pompy | https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13886855_10153730287981408_3978759698163758769_n.jpg?oh=65e0abddbb110585d61992b88e835140&oe=581A1455 |
| 17:04.56 | Thunder_Child | bad ps job is bad. |
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| 17:10.56 | VIad | could have found a more updated image, tempest keep? |
| 17:13.03 | VIad | "Recently-created Demon Hunters cannot access legacy dungeons and raids. Please try again tomorrow." |
| 17:13.14 | VIad | seer udalo has to wait then |
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| 17:33.40 | karl_w_w | ahhh USPS, package going from laredo to australia is currently in chicago |
| 17:33.50 | karl_w_w | these guys need a map and a ruler |
| 17:34.54 | Yoshimo | do the invasions differ per server ? |
| 17:35.01 | fewyn | i don't think so |
| 17:41.01 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: that's always funny to say, but generally the explanation is reasonable. I'd venture a guess they have a huge hub in Chicago, rather than sending everything from everywhere |
| 17:43.21 | foxlit | i like how desktop hearthstone reliably commits suicide on first launch |
| 17:46.02 | zenzelezz | it's to make sure you really are dedicated to playing |
| 17:46.19 | zenzelezz | if you don't relaunch, it flags your account for poorer RNG next time |
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| 17:46.51 | karl_w_w | it doesnt for me foxlit |
| 17:46.58 | karl_w_w | first game, VIad |
| 17:47.18 | foxlit | yeah, but you're in upside-down land, so that's not a reliable data point. |
| 17:49.43 | VIad | tuned in, karl_w_w |
| 17:50.17 | karl_w_w | that's true foxlit, "reliable except in australia" is pretty common |
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| 17:53.46 | fewyn | man |
| 17:53.52 | fewyn | the second time watching the cinematics |
| 17:53.57 | fewyn | is better than the first |
| 17:55.02 | Unkle | They are REALLY well done. |
| 17:55.17 | fewyn | i really should buy terran a beer if i ever get back out to blizzcon |
| 17:55.28 | Unkle | Like, the models and animation are movie quality. |
| 17:55.34 | relaxok | what is the units of SetVerticalScroll/SetHorizontalScroll? |
| 17:58.55 | fewyn | the horde cinematic is the best one |
| 17:58.57 | fewyn | imo |
| 17:59.53 | Miiru | the horde cinematic looks like sylvanas is gonna die in legion |
| 18:00.07 | Miiru | she is becoming way more human as it seems |
| 18:00.51 | fewyn | don't put that evil on me ricky bobby |
| 18:01.26 | Miiru | also jaina is pure evil :D |
| 18:01.47 | fewyn | jaina is a dreadlord |
| 18:01.49 | fewyn | confirmed |
| 18:02.06 | bshelden | Nah, just pining for Arthas |
| 18:02.09 | Unkle | Let's not forget that rage and hate are what made her survive to become Forsaken and to break free from the Lich King. To expect that to dull down just 'cause the Legion showed up is folly. |
| 18:03.10 | Unkle | Also, Jaina is ramping up that hate and anger herself. I'm waiting for her to become corrupted and be a raid boss in the the xpac after the next one. |
| 18:03.19 | Miiru | everytime i met jaina in beta i excpected my paladin artifact to react and unreveal her as a demon :D |
| 18:06.19 | Unkle | The Harbinger video for Khadgar is excellent. |
| 18:08.12 | bshelden | Yes, yes it is. |
| 18:11.16 | nevcairiel | al of the harbinger are pretty cool |
| 18:12.47 | karl_w_w | http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/man-in-bra-heels-caught-on-camera-in-lewd-act-defecating-in-midvale-car-park-20160809-gqo5i1.html |
| 18:12.47 | fewyn | pretty happy with the legion prelaunch event so far |
| 18:12.57 | fewyn | i'm missing pants tho and a second weapon |
| 18:13.15 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/malganis/Rogwyn/simple |
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| 18:15.39 | bshelden | It's something of a return of the WotLK launch and I'm loving it. |
| 18:15.42 | bshelden | I'm also a terrible person. |
| 18:16.05 | fewyn | why are you a terrible person... besides being bshelden |
| 18:16.26 | bshelden | Scout the AH, the event vendor, and the transmog, who has the biggest crowd? |
| 18:16.52 | fewyn | right now... event vendor probably |
| 18:16.55 | fewyn | are you turning into a demon |
| 18:16.57 | fewyn | and landing on it? |
| 18:17.03 | bshelden | It was usually that. But after a coupel clears of that it stayed light for a bit. |
| 18:17.08 | fewyn | because that just happened =p |
| 18:17.15 | bshelden | I worked with friends and someone kept the buff while others wrought mayhem |
| 18:17.22 | bshelden | So we could chain it |
| 18:17.50 | fewyn | this is why i'm doing AH stuff in warspear |
| 18:17.58 | bshelden | That would be smart. |
| 18:18.18 | fewyn | gotta repost all that transmog gear |
| 18:18.22 | fewyn | in hopes someone will buy it |
| 18:18.31 | bshelden | Watching general and trade light up right after a good one is more fun than it should be |
| 18:20.41 | Semlar | what is SetRaidTargetProtected for |
| 18:21.31 | Semlar | appears to just do the same thing as SetRaidTarget |
| 18:34.01 | VIad | did blizzard remove the ability queue interface option? |
| 18:34.27 | Semlar | they removed every option |
| 18:35.08 | VIad | is the cvar still there? :/ |
| 18:35.10 | VIad | to toggle that |
| 18:35.18 | VIad | its on by default, but some guy wants it off :p |
| 18:36.42 | Semlar | i'm not really sure what you're talking about, the lag tolerance thing? |
| 18:37.52 | VIad | reducedLagTolerance |
| 18:38.00 | Semlar | does nothing |
| 18:38.03 | VIad | :( |
| 18:38.11 | Semlar | the setting is in AIO if that's what you want |
| 18:38.38 | Miiru | Marin Noggenfogger lied about the discount =( |
| 18:38.44 | maunot | maxSpellStartRecoveryoffset 0-400 |
| 18:39.11 | maunot | and reducedLagTolerance needs to be 1 :p |
| 18:40.16 | Semlar | turning it off is a horrible idea |
| 18:41.39 | Semlar | if you can't queue up spells you will always delay your next spell cast |
| 18:42.09 | maunot | yep |
| 18:42.56 | Semlar | although i thought disabling it automatically chose the tolerance level |
| 18:43.19 | Semlar | enabling it just made it so you could manually choose the delay |
| 18:43.42 | Semlar | so to really turn it off you'd have to enable it and then set it to 0 |
| 18:47.33 | maunot | there was this case if you spam a macro like: "/use instant_cooldown_off_the_gcd /use spell_with_cast", the instant cooldown would not fire if you're currently casting because it's always the last spell that is put into the queue, so turning the queue off would fix that :p |
| 18:47.52 | maunot | although, this will work as well :P "/use instant_cooldown_off_the_gcd /use spell_with_cast /use instant_cooldown_off_the_gcd" |
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| 19:03.12 | Semlar | i'm a hunter so i just roll my face on the keyboard and whatever happens happens |
| 19:03.34 | Tomaz^ | Barrage |
| 19:03.55 | Semlar | for some reason barrage has a cooldown so sometimes i have to cast something else |
| 19:04.13 | Tomaz^ | what? that's what the pet is for |
| 19:04.30 | Semlar | i don't recall having a pet |
| 19:04.42 | mpstark | Just curious, anyone have an issues with `cameradistancemaxfactor` not saving between sessions and then randomly resetting sometimes? |
| 19:05.02 | Semlar | it gets capped by the blizzard interface |
| 19:05.31 | Semlar | to 1.9 or something |
| 19:05.56 | kullervo | I didn't have any issues yet, I /console SET the value |
| 19:05.57 | Semlar | so even if you manually set the cvar, the interface slider sets it back when you log in |
| 19:06.03 | mpstark | Hmm |
| 19:06.15 | mpstark | And when I go into the interface panel, does it set it again? |
| 19:06.30 | kullervo | ofc that's easily worked around, make an addon (weak aura) to run the command every time you zone or log in |
| 19:06.48 | Semlar | i literally had SetCVar hardcoded into an addon and it didn't work because of the interface panel |
| 19:07.20 | Semlar | had to do CameraPanelOptions.cameraDistanceMaxFactor.maxValue = 2.6 |
| 19:08.21 | mfgmfg | yeah, known bug |
| 19:08.26 | Semlar | that's hard-coded into advanced interface options so it should stay |
| 19:08.41 | mfgmfg | thanks Stanzilla? |
| 19:09.07 | Semlar | >_> |
| 19:09.42 | mfgmfg | well he's listed as the project manager |
| 19:09.48 | Semlar | WHO IS THE AUTHOR |
| 19:09.56 | mfgmfg | Manager, Author |
| 19:10.00 | mfgmfg | you're listed 2nd! |
| 19:10.08 | Semlar | yeah whatever |
| 19:10.14 | mfgmfg | thanks Semlar :) |
| 19:10.22 | Semlar | someone appreciates me |
| 19:10.36 | kullervo | "sempai noticed me!" |
| 19:11.05 | Semlar | i do things |
| 19:11.12 | Semlar | sometimes |
| 19:11.17 | Semlar | when stanzilla yells at me |
| 19:12.30 | g0urra | man I love this lag |
| 19:12.34 | g0urra | damn invasions |
| 19:13.36 | Semlar | if the legion attacks the servers directly they can prevent us from defending azeroth |
| 19:13.48 | Thunder_Child | Semlar: Are you sure you want to be appreciated? |
| 19:14.04 | Semlar | maybe |
| 19:14.59 | Ketho | Semlar: AIO does not seem to setting the cvar to 2.6 by default anymore ever since you removed that line https://github.com/Stanzilla/AdvancedInterfaceOptions/commit/504285499b8126fe7121d099517546041b9f7b2d |
| 19:15.15 | Ketho | at least, I don't see any default value or table somewhere :s |
| 19:15.19 | Semlar | yeah it doesn't, it only does it if you already had the slider set to max |
| 19:16.09 | Thunder_Child | All it means is that people expect things from you. |
| 19:16.11 | Semlar | i felt like it should just use whatever the player had it set to since it was less intrusive |
| 19:16.18 | Thunder_Child | ALL THE THINGS. |
| 19:16.22 | Ketho | you mean, when it was at 1.9 and then it would go to 2.6? |
| 19:16.25 | Semlar | yeah |
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| 19:16.45 | Semlar | at least that's what it did when i was testing it |
| 19:16.49 | Ketho | wtf |
| 19:17.45 | Semlar | that's why i removed that line |
| 19:18.11 | Semlar | although to be honest, i don't know why anyone would ever want it lower than the max |
| 19:18.22 | Semlar | the slider seems kind of pointless |
| 19:18.36 | Tomaz^ | new max is like, 39.5 ? |
| 19:18.37 | Ketho | and it overrides both the Blizzard / MaxCam slider ._. |
| 19:18.42 | Semlar | 39 |
| 19:18.52 | Tomaz^ | I had it at 50 before patch so |
| 19:19.02 | Tomaz^ | 39 still sucks then |
| 19:19.10 | Tomaz^ | but what was it now, 28, 29? |
| 19:19.14 | Tomaz^ | before the latest patch |
| 19:19.18 | Semlar | 28 |
| 19:19.20 | Semlar | .5 |
| 19:19.23 | Semlar | or something |
| 19:19.25 | Tomaz^ | so it's better I guess |
| 19:19.32 | Tomaz^ | but still not good enough |
| 19:20.32 | Semlar | yeah i made AIO override all the things! to whatever people set in the AIO interface because people were complaining that they were setting something and then it was being reset when they logged in again |
| 19:21.17 | Semlar | i think what i'm going to do is have it track which addons are overwriting the value that people are setting in the interface options and then they can decide what to do about it |
| 19:21.39 | Primer | then he's going to release SemlarPlates |
| 19:21.44 | Semlar | o.o |
| 19:22.23 | Ketho | oh well at least we have savedvars now in AIO x) |
| 19:22.48 | Semlar | it's currently applying everything you set as account-wide settings |
| 19:23.29 | Semlar | i want to add an interface for doing character-specific stuff |
| 19:24.07 | Ketho | hope this is useful information then http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53455&page=2#33 |
| 19:24.30 | Semlar | yeah i saw that, i was surprised that floating combat text options were account wide |
| 19:24.59 | Semlar | mapFade being character specific was driving me nuts |
| 19:25.21 | Semlar | i do not like my map fading out when i move |
| 19:25.54 | Semlar | so when i set that on one character and then have it doing that again on another character is no bueno |
| 19:26.10 | Simca | Ketho: it is useful, also that reminds me to bookmark it |
| 19:26.51 | Tomaz^ | anything character specific should have a tick box for "account-wide" |
| 19:27.56 | mfgmfg | yeah i want my bag sorting to be identical |
| 19:28.19 | Semlar | that actually i don't think i managed to apply account wide |
| 19:28.25 | Semlar | i only did cvars |
| 19:28.36 | Semlar | and for whatever reason, that isn't a cvar |
| 19:28.52 | Semlar | i need to go handle that separately |
| 19:29.53 | Semlar | also semlarplates do exist, they just don't have the lazyplates grid thing primer |
| 19:30.47 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.04 | Primer | I've had that file for ages now |
| 19:31.43 | Semlar | probably not the same thing |
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| 19:33.30 | Semlar | since i've been uploading updates to this as i fix it for legion |
| 19:36.09 | Ketho | TheDanW: not sure if I'm in good standing after all that, but why does cameraDistanceMaxFactor get defaulted/capped back to 1.9 after relogging or reloading? |
| 19:36.41 | Semlar | he said that was going to be fixed in 7.1 or something |
| 19:36.51 | Semlar | it just wasn't part of the hotfix |
| 19:44.06 | nevcairiel | Ketho: because the default UI settings are a bit annoying |
| 19:45.43 | Ketho | okay thanks, I should have scrolled back more or checked logs |
| 19:47.59 | Kee | I was in group of 40 people trying to get a new, limited rare toy (Pocket Fel Spreader, id=140363). Spent ~5h. Nobody even saw Doomsayer's the 2nd option. I think they fixed it for NA, but not for EU. Just lost 5h. Time to eat. -_- |
| 19:48.20 | Semlar | fixed it? |
| 19:50.08 | Kee | People on wowhead says they got it on NA. Didn't saw a single person in EU with this toy. No toy on AH too. that's sad. |
| 19:51.03 | Semlar | i can tell you i've been around orgrimmar a few times today and none of the doomsayers had the option |
| 19:51.08 | Semlar | (on a hunter with demon tracking) |
| 19:52.10 | Semlar | in NA |
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| 19:53.12 | Semlar | not sure what it takes for them to spawn |
| 19:54.16 | Ketho | anyone remember if the removed blizzard options were character or account specific? if you toggled that checkbox pre 7.0.3, would it also be toggled for all other characters? |
| 19:54.25 | Ketho | the mapfade checkbox* |
| 19:55.02 | Semlar | i don't know if mapfade was character specific pre-7.0, i'm fairly sure it was |
| 19:55.51 | Ketho | so they had to go on all their characters and enable that checkbox in the blizzard options? :o |
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| 20:02.51 | Semlar | i remember being filled with a certain amount of rage at the fact that not only was there no option on the map itself to disable fading, it was tucked away in some unexpected interface category |
| 20:06.46 | Semlar | no offense to whoever implemented that feature, but if i have my map open i'm almost certainly trying to look at it |
| 20:08.41 | bshelden | nudges the mouse a little to the left and the map goes opaque |
| 20:08.58 | bshelden | nudges it to the right and dodges a hill |
| 20:10.48 | bshelden | I'm being a bit snarky, I admit, but that's a very normal flow for me when flying about with the map open. |
| 20:11.06 | Semlar | don't be ridiculous, i'm using the mouse to steer |
| 20:11.56 | bshelden | If I'm reading my map at full opacity, I'm not really steering. |
| 20:12.27 | Semlar | you have the arrow on the map! |
| 20:12.41 | Semlar | what more could you need |
| 20:12.54 | bshelden | I keep the mouse right next to the right edge. Shift in to read, shift out, then right and hold to turn. |
| 20:12.59 | bshelden | Autorun to move |
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| 20:19.14 | Semlar | i may be inordinately biased against anything that tries to take my map away from me |
| 20:29.07 | mckenziemc1 | lets Semlar keep his map but turns it into a mushroom. |
| 20:29.23 | bshelden | noms Semlar's mushroom map |
| 20:29.39 | bshelden | I'll die for that, but dm;gm. |
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| 20:31.58 | mckenziemc1 | doesn't matter, good mushroom? |
| 20:33.43 | bshelden | um... yes, totally meant that. |
| 20:33.47 | bshelden | dm;hm. |
| 20:35.16 | mckenziemc1 | this is why we can't have nice things |
| 20:35.41 | bshelden | The only nice thing is watching the whole world burn. |
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| 20:50.52 | Gnarfoz | da |
| 20:50.59 | Gnarfoz | wrong window |
| 21:04.15 | VIad | wowthing and askmrrobot arent working with demon hunters |
| 21:04.16 | VIad | lazy :p |
| 21:12.37 | mckenziemc1 | nothing works with VIad |
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| 21:30.43 | VIad | karl_w_w: the stream lags before fights |
| 21:30.48 | VIad | I lose like 10 seconds |
| 21:31.16 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 21:31.26 | karl_w_w | that game was great |
| 21:31.51 | VIad | I am still watching it lol |
| 21:31.58 | VIad | ingame time is 52m40s |
| 21:34.32 | VIad | night time for me |
| 21:34.37 | VIad | I only get to watch one game, and one round :p |
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| 22:23.07 | JustNeph | Hi all, I'm following a tutorial on wowwiki (http://wow.gamepedia.com/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace3_Addon#Introduction) and I'm trying to get the first part (the hello world) to show but nothing seems to be printing. Here is my toc and lua file http://pastebin.com/jJvTAc37 |
| 22:24.09 | bshelden | ooo, a good request for help. Afraid I'm not qualified to answer, but I can appreciate a good ask :) |
| 22:26.02 | LexSfX | JustNeph: are there any lua errors? if you haven't seen any, make sure the scriptErrors CVar is enabled. you can do that by typing /run print(GetCVar("scriptErrors")) in the chat box |
| 22:26.10 | Thunder_Child | Well that page was last edited in 2011, so it is possibly a tad out of date. |
| 22:26.39 | LexSfX | and you can enable it by typing /run SetCVar("scriptErrors", 1) |
| 22:26.58 | nevcairiel | JustNeph: that looks mostly fine, if you placed it in an appropriate folder in the addons directory (same name as the toc file) - and remember to restart the game when you add new files |
| 22:27.25 | Thunder_Child | bshelden: What, you are not a fan of requests like "Hi guise, can u help me make my addon wurk gud?" |
| 22:28.08 | JustNeph | Thunder_Child: Yea, I'm finding it hard to find up to date Hello World examples unfortunately. If you guys have any, I'd be super appreciative haha. |
| 22:28.11 | bshelden | shudders |
| 22:28.41 | bshelden | Thunder_Child: I get a ton of something very like that |
| 22:28.47 | LexSfX | you don't have to use Ace3 for a "Hello World" addon |
| 22:29.02 | JustNeph | Oh I know |
| 22:29.08 | JustNeph | I was gonna write one to use events |
| 22:29.19 | JustNeph | and figured leveraging ace might of been my best bet |
| 22:30.22 | bshelden | Usual programming advice: It's worth learning to write a bare metal hello world before digging into libs. |
| 22:30.31 | JustNeph | Hm the "/run print(GetCVar("scriptErrors"))" returns 0 |
| 22:30.33 | Thunder_Child | bshelden: "I got dis '/script' cmd from forum, and I put '/addon /run' infront, how come it not an adon?" |
| 22:30.35 | Guill | JustNeph: I'd suggest starting without using any libraries. Ace (and other libraries) really start shining once you're doing something complex. If you're just trying to get started, you may encounter issues that aren't necessarily yours |
| 22:30.48 | bshelden | Thunder_Child: Nah, that kind doesn't annoy me. I just start the popcorn. |
| 22:30.55 | JustNeph | Are events easy to work without bare metal? |
| 22:31.12 | JustNeph | Sorry in the bare metal |
| 22:31.15 | Guill | JustNeph: Not difficult at all |
| 22:31.27 | bshelden | As I recall, yes. At least for simply learning how the concept works. The bare interface is pretty good. |
| 22:31.38 | Guill | JustNeph: Slightly different syntax (one function for all events, then having to check which event it is), but it's not difficult |
| 22:31.45 | JustNeph | Any recommended links or resources? |
| 22:31.46 | bshelden | Admittedly, it's been a /long/ time since I messed with it personally (Burning Crusade) |
| 22:32.02 | LexSfX | JustNeph: you can use events without Ace3 too... just make a frame with CreateFrame ( http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFrame ), register events with the yourFrame:RegisterEvent("YOUR_EVENT_HERE") frame function, and then watch for events with yourFrame:SetScript("OnEvent", function(this, event, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, ...) YourCodeHere() end) |
| 22:33.33 | LexSfX | you can check which event fired inside your function with "if event == "YOUR_EVENT_HERE" then DoStuff() end" |
| 22:35.38 | JustNeph | Hm, I'll try that then. I was hoping that the libs might help keep the code cleaner. I'm new to lua but not to programming. Heavy Ruby Experience |
| 22:37.29 | LexSfX | so 4 steps to handling events: create frame, register events with that frame, set OnEvent script, check for event names inside your OnEvent script |
| 22:38.51 | LexSfX | you can also use yourFrame:RegisterAllEvents() and then inside your OnEvent function, print(event..(arg1 and " "..tostring(arg1) or "")..(arg2 and " "..tostring(arg2) or "")..(arg3 and " "..tostring(arg3) or "")..(arg4 and " "..tostring(arg4) or "")) if you really want to see ALL events that are firing |
| 22:39.09 | LexSfX | that can sometimes be helpful for figuring out which event(s) to register |
| 22:39.27 | Guill | Try using /eventtrace before you do that ;) |
| 22:39.28 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.41 | JustNeph | Ah ok. Yea that sounds good, I'll give it a whirl. Really appreciate the help guys. Don't be surprised if I come back later though ;) |
| 22:40.00 | LexSfX | Guill/Neffi: lmao, i never knew about that. that's much simpler :P |
| 22:40.01 | LexSfX | thanks |
| 22:40.04 | JustNeph | Yea I know which even i'm looking for just a matter of formatting it to add the business logic when that event is fired |
| 22:40.27 | mfgmfg | even without eventrace, wouldn't print(...) be easier than that |
| 22:40.43 | LexSfX | mfgmfg: good point! |
| 22:40.58 | LexSfX | i admit defeat and i'm sorry for my ignorance! lol |
| 22:41.17 | mfgmfg | https://xkcd.com/1053/ |
| 22:41.35 | LexSfX | :D |
| 22:42.57 | Torhal | Since I dislike huge if/elseif chains, this is the method I use for registering and defining events without libraries: http://pastebin.com/4jTS8Z7L |
| 22:43.02 | Torhal | JustNeph: ^ |
| 22:43.37 | Torhal | Just replace ADDON_LOADED with PLAYER_LOGIN (or vice versa) and you get the idea. |
| 22:43.54 | Torhal | I'm half asleep so I didn't catch the fact that I did that |
| 22:43.54 | Torhal | Heh |
| 22:45.26 | Neffi | half wakes up Torhal |
| 22:45.34 | Neffi | now you're only a quarter sleep! |
| 22:45.52 | Torhal | sprays Neffi with anti-sleep. |
| 22:45.54 | bshelden | half sleeps Torhal |
| 22:45.55 | Neffi | how many more times do I need to do this before you are fully awake? I |
| 22:46.18 | Neffi | :( |
| 22:46.38 | bshelden | Hey, it doesn't change your answer that I did that, Neffi. |
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| 23:03.44 | LexSfX | what other helpful developer slash commands are there? i knew /framestack and just now i've learned about /eventtrace |
| 23:04.40 | Torhal | LexSfX: /dump |
| 23:05.55 | Ketho | I regret porting http://old.wowace.com/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace3_Addon to wowpedia now |
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| 23:09.26 | kd3 | :( |
| 23:10.17 | Torhal | Ketho: ? |
| 23:11.34 | Ketho | Torhal: the old wowace stylesheet was more pleasing to read imo |
| 23:12.31 | Torhal | Oh |
| 23:21.58 | LexSfX | Ketho: i agree, but both are quite comfortable to read overall |
| 23:26.41 | Semlar | is there some way to get tab to not target enemy players when you aren't pvp flagged |
| 23:26.56 | bshelden | That would be lovely... |
| 23:27.19 | Semlar | i could probably override the binding |
| 23:34.22 | Thunder_Child | Tab targeting does not require a hw event? |
| 23:34.41 | Semlar | it does, but it also is a hardware event |
| 23:35.25 | Semlar | and i meant just bind it to a macro that targets only non-players, but i don't know if there's even a slash command for that |
| 23:35.30 | Semlar | there's one to target players |
| 23:35.52 | Thunder_Child | But I assume to make sure that the target it is going to hit is pvp flagged, it would have to target it to get that information. |
| 23:36.42 | Thunder_Child | or do you mean you would make your own targeting system? |
| 23:39.39 | mckenziemc1 | don't mind Semlar, he's had a few too many mushrooms |
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| 23:46.01 | Gnarfoz | too few, you mean, surely |
| 23:54.46 | LexSfX | Stanzilla: AdvancedInterfaceOptions is messing up now that i've tried to edit "showGameTips"; can reproduce? |
| 23:55.19 | Stanzilla | define "messing up"? |
| 23:55.51 | LexSfX | firstly, it doesn't let me edit showGameTips at all (pressing a button does nothing after entering 1 or 0) |
| 23:56.23 | LexSfX | secondly, http://lex.clansfx.co.uk/dump/206b938373ab911ac05a9c1ea18121b6/0000019F.txt |
| 23:56.30 | LexSfX | shows that every once in a while, seemingly randomly |
| 23:56.34 | LexSfX | but surely at certain times |
| 23:57.16 | Stanzilla | I'll remove it |
| 23:57.17 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 23:57.24 | LexSfX | yw and ty too |
