| 13:46.44 | VIad | could make a thin 1px line along one side and have the program just read the colors, and get the info about states |
| 13:49.00 | slink | ah |
| 13:49.03 | slink | i gotta reboot |
| 13:49.04 | slink | bbl |
| 13:49.35 | Thunder_Child | Or, and this is way out there, you could just pay attention to the game. |
| 13:50.00 | VIad | but it would be fun if I can go and pee, and on my way back I could see my keyboard glow red because readycheck is on :D |
| 13:50.25 | VIad | or I can turn away and be chill until I see the red glow, knowing I gotta go back now without audio or screen cues |
| 13:50.58 | VIad | its more about being able to, than the situations really |
| 13:51.10 | VIad | I am sure other people would like to make other stuff for themselves |
| 13:51.25 | VIad | the "wow" keyboard apparently displays a lot of in-game info on the screen |
| 13:51.36 | VIad | it would be nice if blizzard made it available to others too, not only that keyboard |
| 13:51.46 | VIad | like I can start poking at it, but chances to get banned? :p |
| 13:52.25 | VIad | the client problably looks for a specific driver or something, and just starts to emit data streams to it via some protocol |
| 13:52.43 | Thunder_Child | What 'wow keyboard'? |
| 13:53.15 | VIad | G15 |
| 13:53.39 | Miiru | +G19 |
| 13:53.50 | VIad | probably some deal with blizz |
| 13:54.08 | VIad | it can show some info on the LCD |
| 13:54.43 | Miiru | it shows player stats and invite times for dungeons for example |
| 13:55.03 | VIad | chat messages |
| 13:55.21 | Miiru | chat bugged since the introdution of battle net |
| 13:55.26 | Miiru | for me at least |
| 13:55.35 | VIad | I guess logitech needs to update the code |
| 13:55.43 | VIad | or wow, unsure if blizz keep the module updated :p |
| 13:55.48 | Miiru | yea well wont happen |
| 13:55.55 | VIad | does G15 use "apps" ? |
| 13:55.56 | Miiru | the keyboard is way 2 old |
| 13:55.59 | VIad | for the LCD |
| 13:56.01 | Miiru | yes |
| 13:56.08 | VIad | so you can extract the app for it |
| 13:56.08 | Miiru | u can switch between them |
| 13:56.11 | VIad | and see how the wow app works |
| 13:56.19 | VIad | maybe neatily use the protocols to talk to wow |
| 13:57.32 | Miiru | i dont have miney anymore, i sold it this year and got a corsair k70 |
| 13:57.46 | VIad | :p |
| 13:57.50 | VIad | did the applet come bundled? |
| 13:57.53 | VIad | or separate DL? |
| 13:58.52 | Miiru | http://www.g15-applets.de/eigenes-wow-applet-t6509.html |
| 13:59.11 | VIad | "World of Warcraft Cataclysium" |
| 13:59.16 | VIad | http://www.logitech.com/en-us/articles/554 |
| 13:59.27 | VIad | I was using the wrong name all these years |
| 13:59.46 | Thunder_Child | Oh...interesting. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info23831-ArxArmory.html That taps into the new version of the logitech software |
| 14:00.04 | Thunder_Child | Since the newkeyboards use your phone/tablet for the screen. |
| 14:00.12 | Thunder_Child | new keyboards* |
| 14:01.19 | Thunder_Child | Didn't know that was ok though. |
| 14:01.49 | Thunder_Child | Also http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info23750-WowG910.html |
| 14:02.07 | maunot | VIad: follow isn't protected, though, so you could simply do /run hooksecurefunc("InteractUnit", FollowUnit) :P |
| 14:02.58 | VIad | oh really? |
| 14:03.05 | VIad | I didnt expect that |
| 14:03.12 | VIad | I expect any action to be protected :p |
| 14:03.23 | maunot | yeah it's kinda weird follow isn't one of those, but, meh :P |
| 14:03.30 | Semlar | it would make multiboxing quite difficult |
| 14:03.40 | mfgmfg | so it's basically screen scraping using a single pixel? |
| 14:04.06 | Thunder_Child | looks like cluster of pixels, but yes. |
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| 14:04.27 | maunot | but I doubt the main reason for it being unprotected is to make multiboxers' lives easier :P |
| 14:04.39 | mfgmfg | RIP freenode |
| 14:04.40 | VIad | multiboxers dont give a shit |
| 14:04.52 | VIad | they just clone hardware keyboard inputs :p |
| 14:05.02 | VIad | can just make a bind for it in the game UI anyway |
| 14:05.08 | VIad | why rip, mfgmfg? |
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| 14:12.39 | mfgmfg | VIad, lot of people disconnected, especially in other larger channels |
| 14:13.07 | VIad | k |
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| 15:01.25 | Andols2 | ~logs |
| 15:01.25 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
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| 15:08.37 | VIad | we swear we are not trying to manipulate you http://imgur.com/gallery/iOrE8Yu |
| 15:15.01 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 15:29.22 | nevcairiel | they could've probably just leaft out the last data point and noone would've noticed =p |
| 15:30.51 | VIad | I might be wrong, but the wow lcd info thing seems to run over http ? |
| 15:31.17 | VIad | the logitech keyboard LCD applets seem to be html based and dlls involve something like tcp and ports |
| 15:31.28 | Thunder_Child | Same as the wow app perhaps? |
| 15:32.02 | VIad | but locally |
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| 15:40.46 | VIad | the logitech drivers have a profile for wow |
| 15:40.57 | VIad | not much interesting, but there is a script section in the xml saying |
| 15:40.57 | VIad | function OnEvent(event, arg) OutputLogMessage("event = %s, arg = %s\n", event, arg); end |
| 15:41.32 | Shockah|Work | huh, are logs being output instantly? |
| 15:42.21 | VIad | seems they use lua in their applet API |
| 15:43.44 | VIad | yes, and they have certain globals you can implement to pickup on the data feeded by the logitech software |
| 15:44.04 | VIad | this means this is way too late in the cycle, it is more interesting to see how wow and logitech communicate then |
| 15:44.16 | mfgmfg | if i want to make a frame that's very similar to an existing blizzard frame, should i just copy and paste the xml, or try to re-use (copy in lua) the frame and modify it? (artifact power frame in particular) |
| 15:44.19 | VIad | as this end is the app on the keyboard itself using and displaying the data |
| 15:44.35 | VIad | I'd recycle their template, or if no template, their xml file :p |
| 15:44.45 | VIad | just be sure not to leak globals that overlap with blizzards names |
| 15:45.06 | Shockah|Work | yeah i don't really care about G13 or whatever it's for, but the communication thing sounds... useful. and against the rules. but intriguing. |
| 15:45.33 | mfgmfg | remember that one addon that was trying to do in-game communication with an addon via file timestamp modification? |
| 15:45.37 | mfgmfg | or program? |
| 15:45.47 | VIad | it's not against the rules, it's standard logitech support they made with blizzard :p |
| 15:45.54 | VIad | think they sold some wow themes keyboards some years ago even |
| 15:46.14 | Shockah|Work | the keyboard maybe not, but if one were to do something else with it |
| 15:46.14 | VIad | I wonder if the support is still here in legion |
| 15:46.19 | VIad | or if they deprecated it |
| 15:46.22 | Shockah|Work | communication with outside of the game |
| 15:46.27 | Shockah|Work | both ways |
| 15:46.33 | VIad | its one way stream and limited info |
| 15:47.16 | VIad | they still have globalstrings suffixed _LCD |
| 15:47.37 | mfgmfg | VIad, it's a template only if virtual="true", correct? |
| 15:47.45 | VIad | think so |
| 15:47.57 | VIad | or |
| 15:48.04 | VIad | can't you inherit any defined xml widget? |
| 15:48.24 | mfgmfg | i tried inheriting earlier, but docs said virtual must be true to be inheritable |
| 15:48.29 | VIad | ah ok then |
| 15:48.40 | Shockah|Work | anyway bbl |
| 15:48.40 | VIad | yes seems correc |
| 15:49.26 | mfgmfg | These frames cannot be frames that were created using this function, they must be created using XML with virtual="true" in the tag. |
| 15:52.12 | VIad | curse client has LCD support wat? |
| 15:52.14 | VIad | Simca: ? |
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| 15:58.32 | Simca | yeah i guess |
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| 15:59.19 | VIad | seems like wow came up too by itself |
| 15:59.24 | VIad | logitech has a LCD emulator :p |
| 15:59.38 | VIad | do you know if ports 54003 and 54004 are bnet related, Simca? |
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| 16:00.14 | Simca | no |
| 16:09.50 | IsoLnCHiP | On the subject of unit interaction etc. Is there a way to move to the targetet npc unit without having to enable mouse move? |
| 16:10.17 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 16:10.57 | IsoLnCHiP | Or at least disable interaction triggered by the left mouse button? |
| 16:12.53 | IsoLnCHiP | That follow hook on interact is kinda cool :) |
| 16:13.45 | VIad | the wow binary finds the logitech gaming software and hooks into the LgLcdApi.dll file |
| 16:14.17 | VIad | the dll has three methods, DllRegisterServer DllUnregisterServer and GetInterface |
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| 16:16.52 | IsoLnCHiP | This is so inconsistant, if you left click some NPCs (with mousemove) you walk up to them, others you dont. Similarly, hostile NPCs left click only selects. |
| 16:17.37 | IsoLnCHiP | Is there some way to force leftclick to *allways* just be target? not interact. |
| 16:17.54 | Ssateneth | hmm, i gotta figure out how to get auctionator to ignore random enchant suffixes and to always pick the lowest price to put an item up for (sellign rtansmog) |
| 16:24.52 | mfgmfg | that'd be nice |
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| 16:26.26 | Andols2 | #VIad https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/4vbrkt/psa_logitech_keyboard_lcds_are_legion_compatible/ |
| 16:26.44 | Ammako | cant you just disable Interact on Left Click, Iso? |
| 16:27.40 | IsoLnCHiP | I dont know, thats what I was asking Ammako :) |
| 16:27.46 | VIad | Andols2: yeah LCD is there. logitech gaming software has a LCD emulator, tested it out. you could technically hook the DLL logitech made, but its out of my skillset :p |
| 16:27.50 | Ammako | no im saying |
| 16:28.06 | Ammako | Interface, Controls, uncheck Interact on Left Click |
| 16:28.30 | IsoLnCHiP | omg. That has been annoying me for ever. Thanks! |
| 16:28.39 | Ammako | i should probably have been clearer haha |
| 16:29.15 | IsoLnCHiP | With and without mousemove it allways bugged me, that the messed up the targeting function ;D |
| 16:29.18 | kullervo | Ssateneth: perhaps you need a better addon |
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| 16:58.20 | mfgmfg | anyone currently running a non-english client on beta? |
| 16:58.46 | Thunder_Child | I assume there is someone who is. |
| 16:58.55 | mfgmfg | wanting to ask them to check something |
| 17:01.03 | mfgmfg | result of /dump C_ArtifactUI.GetRelicSlotType(1) |
| 17:01.39 | mckenziemc | 403 Forbidden |
| 17:03.41 | mfgmfg | artifact panel has to be open |
| 17:06.17 | TheDanW | the return isn't localized, if thats what you're wondering |
| 17:09.52 | mfgmfg | is /dump C_ArtifactUI.GetEquippedArtifactInfo() index 3 localized? |
| 17:10.03 | mfgmfg | and C_ArtifactUI.GetArtifactArtInfo() index 2 |
| 17:11.16 | TheDanW | yes, yes |
| 17:11.43 | TheDanW | any text that is directly displayed to the user has to be localized, both of these are |
| 17:13.23 | mfgmfg | so what's up with relic slot type |
| 17:14.21 | Thunder_Child | Is it text displayed to the user? |
| 17:14.33 | TheDanW | nope |
| 17:14.34 | mfgmfg | Locked: Fel Artifact Relic Slot |
| 17:14.43 | TheDanW | look at function ArtifactTitleTemplateMixin:OnRelicSlotMouseEnter(relicSlot) |
| 17:17.46 | mfgmfg | wish C_ArtifactUI would let me supply an artifact item ID so i don't need to scrape and store data with the addon |
| 17:18.58 | mfgmfg | it's already in the wow data files, right? |
| 17:22.35 | IsoLnCHiP | Is there a more straightforward way to use /dump from lua than hash_SlashCmdList["/DUMP"](foo) ? |
| 17:23.13 | IsoLnCHiP | Sure I can "local" it, just wondering if I am missing something obvious ;) |
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| 17:25.10 | TheDanW | mfgmfg: it isn't quite that simple, i wouldn't count on it changing |
| 17:26.44 | mfgmfg | i understand if there's some kind of decision like 'we want players to only see the artifact details when they get it' |
| 17:27.51 | mfgmfg | if i want to see how a guildie has set up their artifact traits & relics, they'd have to screenshot it or send me an out of game link to the wowhead artifact calculator |
| 17:27.56 | IsoLnCHiP | Ugh, its not even as simple as aliasing it with local, it need to be a strong to be evaluated :( |
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| 17:29.31 | IsoLnCHiP | Geez, spelling strikes critically |
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| 17:35.55 | Simca | mfgmfg2: yes it's all in the data files |
| 17:36.07 | Simca | you can make your own lookup tables to handle it all |
| 17:36.31 | Simca | there's even an ArtifactID column in item-sparse now |
| 17:40.17 | zenzelezz | https://twitter.com/SpacedLetters/status/760123917541539840 - the tears, they are real |
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| 17:44.35 | VIad | AGDQ is sexist - there are like, no females, either speedrunning or on the couch |
| 17:47.41 | Thunder_Child | I assume because they are in the kitchen, where they belong. |
| 17:48.06 | VIad | oh right, explains the steady stream of sandwiches |
| 17:48.09 | Simca | somebody is going to miss the sarcasm here and get upset over this someday |
| 17:48.21 | VIad | Thunder_Child political race in 2050 |
| 17:48.35 | VIad | some reporter digs this up and with no context makes a problem for him |
| 17:48.51 | Thunder_Child | That's ok, I think I have had most of the women in this channel physically hit me already anyway. |
| 17:49.09 | VIad | but women can't hit so it hurts |
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| 17:50.52 | VIad | Simca told me some important information. But I am too deep now to change my course. |
| 17:51.22 | kd3 | ... |
| 17:51.43 | Simca | yeah that's some bad phrasing |
| 17:52.00 | Thunder_Child | Or fantastic phrasing depening on how you look at it. |
| 17:52.43 | Seerah | I don't think I've physically hit you (yet), TC |
| 17:52.52 | VIad | me being a norwegian cis, I have no control over my phrasing |
| 17:53.27 | Thunder_Child | Seerah: No, you are the one person I was thinking of that has not hit me. Both Lopeppeppy and Cairenn have. |
| 17:53.42 | Lopeppeppy | I hit you? |
| 17:53.48 | Seerah | there are more females here than three |
| 17:53.50 | Seerah | peppy!!! |
| 17:53.53 | Thunder_Child | At one of the blizzcons. |
| 17:54.00 | Lopeppeppy | Wait... yes, I think I swatted you and walked away at the group dinner at Blizzcon, you're right. |
| 17:54.04 | Lopeppeppy | Seerah! |
| 17:54.27 | Thunder_Child | Granted, I'm fairly sure I deserved it. |
| 17:54.54 | Lopeppeppy | I am pretty sure that you did, although I don't remember exactly what you said. I even switched tables! |
| 17:56.21 | Thunder_Child | Are you sure? The one I am thinking of was at Benihana. |
| 17:56.42 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, it was group dinner at a restaurant. |
| 17:56.58 | Thunder_Child | Except we have been at a few of them. |
| 17:57.29 | Lopeppeppy | I was only at one Blizzcon, so that's the most important one EV-AR. |
| 17:57.44 | Thunder_Child | Really? So much for my memory. |
| 17:58.11 | Seerah | that year wasn't Benihana, because I wasn't there the Benihana year, but I was there when you were |
| 17:58.29 | Seerah | UNLESS - I happened to miss the dinner that year :/ |
| 17:59.08 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 17:59.35 | Lopeppeppy | It was 2008. |
| 18:00.09 | Seerah | yeah, that was our first BC. Did we go to Bubba Gump's that year? Or was that 2010?... :D |
| 18:00.37 | Seerah | I do remember we arrived Friday morning and missed a couple things that first year |
| 18:01.40 | Thunder_Child | Bubba Gumps was the first one. |
| 18:02.13 | Thunder_Child | I think. |
| 18:02.15 | Lopeppeppy | I totally don't remember the restaurant. It was in walking distance and we ate food. I also baked cookies and fed them to Slouken on a street corner in trade for some rum. |
| 18:02.16 | Seerah | sounds like she hit you at Bubba Gumps then :) |
| 18:02.38 | Seerah | I remember the rum |
| 18:03.15 | Thunder_Child | You can't have had too much then. |
| 18:04.18 | Lopeppeppy | I follow the 1-2 rule. I can have 1 or 2 drinks, and then no more. So no, I did not have enough rum. |
| 18:04.20 | Seerah | I probably didn't |
| 18:05.34 | Seerah | Last year, I had plenty of liquor, competing with Cairenn. My body punished me with a migraine a couple hours later (which is usually why I don't partake so much) |
| 18:06.13 | mfgmfg2 | Simca, there is an API for the data files? i'm not aware of how that works |
| 18:06.28 | Thunder_Child | Looks like Bubba's was def 2010. http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35041 Not sure about '08. |
| 18:08.14 | Seerah | Hmm... I don't have any photos from dinner in 2008, just IHOP. I may have missed it then. |
| 18:10.04 | Seerah | I take that back! I found one - it was Benihana, and I was apparently there. |
| 18:10.15 | Thunder_Child | Wait...I remember one of the earliest was eating outside somewhere. |
| 18:10.17 | Seerah | permaybe I did drink that night :p |
| 18:10.22 | Thunder_Child | I have photos of that if I can find them. |
| 18:11.23 | VIad | saw pokemon blue reverse badge acquisition run on AGDQ, was fun |
| 18:11.44 | Thunder_Child | And Cairenn went buck wild on the drinks. |
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| 18:15.36 | Lopeppeppy | While I am totally innocent. |
| 18:16.22 | VIad | I remember when linus tech tips was in his bedroom |
| 18:16.34 | VIad | now its someone else talking, and 3 voiced product placements :( |
| 18:16.45 | VIad | still interesting though so I guess its still cool |
| 18:16.47 | Andols | What are you watching? AGDQ is not going on atm. |
| 18:16.54 | VIad | watch replays ofc, Andols |
| 18:17.00 | VIad | they upload the replays slowly on the youtube |
| 18:17.11 | Simca | he's watching vids of SGDQ 2016 from a couple weeks ago i think |
| 18:17.13 | Andols | Ah :) |
| 18:17.17 | VIad | jupp |
| 18:17.51 | Andols | I have seen some speedruns at dreamhack :) Was fun watching live |
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| 18:21.52 | Thunder_Child | https://www.dropbox.com/s/wj4xed9v392uhb2/IMG_1894.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/2fseaet3q3wws7i/IMG_1895.jpg?dl=0 These were from 2007. |
| 18:22.11 | Thunder_Child | Not 100% sure where it was. |
| 18:23.08 | Thunder_Child | Maybe dolby or Iriel remember. |
| 18:27.00 | Thunder_Child | I think Lothar was the dude with the super long hair. |
| 18:28.03 | Gnarfoz | I spy a wild kd3 |
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| 18:28.23 | Thunder_Child | Yes, him and Shirik were there. |
| 18:28.59 | kd3 | that was the first one - I was there with Wikia at the time alongside Kirkburn and some SC2 wiki editor |
| 18:29.11 | Gnarfoz | and Kaelten I think :O |
| 18:29.20 | Gnarfoz | oh, second picture stops me guessing, lol |
| 18:30.01 | kd3 | or, my first one, rather |
| 18:30.06 | Thunder_Child | Are you sure it was the first one? The forum post I linked earilier said the 2010 one was the 5th annual. |
| 18:30.08 | Thunder_Child | Yea, that. |
| 18:30.19 | Thunder_Child | That I think was my first as well. |
| 18:30.21 | kd3 | I've been to every BlizzCon except the 2005 one |
| 18:30.34 | dolby | image metadata says 207 @Thunder_Child |
| 18:30.59 | dolby | I think that is the one blizzcon i missed |
| 18:31.00 | Gnarfoz | Thunder_Child: plates say "house of blues" |
| 18:31.32 | dolby | err 2007 |
| 18:31.53 | Thunder_Child | THen house of blues it is. |
| 18:31.53 | Thunder_Child | Then* |
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| 18:32.28 | Thunder_Child | dolby: Ah. |
| 18:34.22 | Gnarfoz | does that attendee list really say 'ckknight' there? |
| 18:34.23 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:34.30 | Simca | last few weeks on the blizzard CDNs have been weird, it's like they suddenly became very competent at patching games |
| 18:34.40 | Simca | which is certainly a talent they've never shown before |
| 18:34.53 | Gnarfoz | Simca: outsourced to india |
| 18:35.01 | Simca | oh ok |
| 18:35.28 | Thunder_Child | Gnarfoz: CK was at some of them. |
| 18:35.33 | Thunder_Child | So was Tekkub. |
| 18:35.35 | Thunder_Child | And others. |
| 18:35.44 | Gnarfoz | oh I thought the link I clicked there was for this year |
| 18:35.53 | Gnarfoz | 'twas the 2010 one xD |
| 18:35.57 | Gnarfoz | hence my surprise |
| 18:36.02 | Thunder_Child | Ah. |
| 18:40.27 | mfgmfg2 | so. i figure that if you leave the artifact UI forge open, the rotating model on the forge will start acting funny after about a month, if you can manage to stay online that long with the forge open |
| 18:40.49 | mfgmfg2 | the floating point number for rotation offset will lose precision |
| 18:41.45 | nevcairiel | sounds like a non-issue =p |
| 18:42.04 | foxlit | Solution: insta-ban any character online for over 100 contiguous hours. |
| 18:42.07 | mfgmfg2 | my immersion will be ruined |
| 18:43.10 | mfgmfg2 | after maybe a century it will appear to not rotate at all |
| 18:43.14 | Gnarfoz | muh immershun |
| 18:46.14 | Simca | i ran into issues with FP precision and rotation too |
| 18:46.20 | Simca | when playing with models |
| 18:46.52 | Simca | but i just solved it by resetting the value every 1/4th of the rotation |
| 18:47.29 | mfgmfg | does it jitter a bit if you modulo 2*pi? |
| 18:50.24 | Simca | jitter is a good description of the behaviour I was experiencing |
| 18:51.09 | Simca | and I was having it 'lock' to nearest rotation point on a keybind, and then advance to the 'next' rotation point (points at every pi/8) |
| 18:51.31 | Simca | and at 2-3 points around the circle, it would actually never advance |
| 18:52.04 | Simca | because it would set itself to the nearest one 'in front of it', which was always itself, because the FP precision made it below itself |
| 18:52.07 | Semlar | anyone know what the dice texture from the roll frame is or what directory it's under |
| 18:54.01 | foxlit | 130770. |
| 18:54.10 | Semlar | thanks |
| 18:54.18 | foxlit | through 130772. |
| 18:55.17 | Lopeppeppy | *hummy hummy memory lane* |
| 19:01.09 | LexSfX | what is the class string and the spec strings for demon hunter? also, what kind of stats does demon hunter use? i want to add rudimentary support for it to AutoGear |
| 19:01.29 | mfgmfg | agi leather |
| 19:01.37 | Fisker | hugtacklehug Lopeppeppy |
| 19:01.54 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Fiskerboo. Get your huggles in, I have a vacation coming up! |
| 19:08.35 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: Where are you off to? |
| 19:09.16 | mckenziemc | somewhere away from Fisker |
| 19:11.31 | Thunder_Child | So...the moon? |
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| 19:12.27 | mckenziemc | pop quiz: if 2010 was the 5th annual UI Community Dinner, what year was the first? |
| 19:15.09 | mfgmfg | 2006? |
| 19:15.15 | Lopeppeppy | TC, I don't get to actually go anywhere. I usually go camping, but my new arthritis isn't gonna go with that concept. |
| 19:15.28 | mckenziemc | reminds me of back in the day when we were assigned problems out of the math book, and people thought #10-#20 was 10 problems |
| 19:15.38 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: Making it camping on a beach then. |
| 19:16.21 | mckenziemc | mfgmfg: i was hoping somebody would do 2010 - 5 = 2005 :( |
| 19:17.44 | Lopeppeppy | Camping on my couch, more like. |
| 19:18.36 | Thunder_Child | That sounds more like boredom than a vacation. |
| 19:19.33 | mckenziemc | tell that to the majority of the US population |
| 19:19.45 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty much, TC. But rest is going to help my back a lot, so it's a good thing. |
| 19:20.07 | mfgmfg | Ssateneth, check out https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/transmogshop |
| 19:20.27 | mckenziemc | so if i didn't know to tin the tip of my soldering iron when i first used it, do i need to buy a replacement? i'm not sure if that's why it doesn't seem to work right |
| 19:21.37 | Lopeppeppy | I would suggest that "yes" is the answer to that, mckenziemc. |
| 19:36.05 | foxlit | mckenziemc: pop quiz: if 2010 was the 5th annual UI Community Dinner, what year was the seventh? |
| 19:42.16 | Thunder_Child | Heh. |
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| 19:43.58 | kd3 | bleh. I was wondering why rarity was having issues with aoe loot: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20747794934 |
| 19:44.12 | Lopeppeppy | Pop quiz, alestane! At what Blizzcon did you risk your life by booping me on the nose? |
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| 19:59.02 | Cairenn | smoogles Lopeppeppy! |
| 20:02.35 | TheDanW | i fixed the addon textures loading from disk constantly bug, it'll be going out as a hotfix soon(tm) |
| 20:03.06 | nevcairiel | should leave it in a bit longer, it caused some addons to fix their bad code |
| 20:03.08 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 20:03.46 | TheDanW | and optimize their texture sizes :) |
| 20:07.42 | foxlit | so, um, extrapolating wildly from a bug report, it's now possible for the client to eject toy names from the item cache. |
| 20:09.04 | foxlit | (i.e. you can be in a situation when PlayerHasToy(id) returns true, but C_ToyBox.GetToyInfo(id) doesn't know the toy's name) |
| 20:09.55 | Simca | I don't understand, why wouldn't GetToyInfo just cause a local item lookup in the cache |
| 20:10.10 | Simca | for the cache* |
| 20:10.48 | Simca | my understanding is that they keep item-sparse around as a file pointer but don't fully load it, just a small subset of it as required |
| 20:11.01 | Simca | that subset is the item cache |
| 20:11.53 | Simca | if something doesn't get a result from the item cache, shouldn't the cache fall back to loading the data into the cache from the file pointer for item-sparse it has? |
| 20:12.21 | Simca | i mean, that's how a processor's cache works, basically |
| 20:13.59 | foxlit | fancy! |
| 20:14.50 | foxlit | all I really know is http://pastebin.com/CxNMDvD8 |
| 20:16.05 | Simca | it seems like if item cache doesn't have the item, it immediately resorts to bugging the server instead |
| 20:17.07 | nevcairiel | what else would it do |
| 20:17.28 | Semlar | make something up |
| 20:17.37 | Simca | use the local file pointer it still has |
| 20:17.45 | Simca | and pull the item data that came with the build. |
| 20:18.03 | Semlar | i probably shouldn't have put this button so close to the Accept button |
| 20:18.06 | TheDanW | we'll unload item records from memory now, that is new in 7.0.3, the other behaviors (requesting from server/disk) have been around for a long time |
| 20:18.14 | Lopeppeppy | Hey, Cairenn. *huggles* |
| 20:18.33 | Cairenn | :) |
| 20:19.13 | Simca | yeah TheDanW it just seems like stuff won't get reloaded into memory properly unless you make a GetItemInfo request or set the item on the tooltip (the cases in which it usually contacts the server) |
| 20:19.35 | TheDanW | the various Get*Info functions will also reload them |
| 20:19.42 | TheDanW | like GetToyInfo |
| 20:20.02 | foxlit | asynchronously, apparently. |
| 20:20.42 | Simca | yes, it calls the server, async, and DOESN'T properly fire the events related to server requests |
| 20:20.56 | Simca | GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED or whatever |
| 20:21.06 | VIad | GET_TOY_INFO_RECEIVED? |
| 20:21.07 | TheDanW | TOYS_UPDATED will be triggered for toys via GetToyInfo |
| 20:21.10 | Semlar | trying to quickly set different weapons in the transmog interface seems to fail because of the time it takes to load the model / info |
| 20:21.38 | foxlit | (in retrospect, I don't actually care about the name in that context, but it's weird that you end up deallocating it when things like UseToyByName exists) |
| 20:21.50 | Simca | but it's not updating toys, it's pulling item data |
| 20:21.56 | Simca | that's massively confusing |
| 20:22.17 | VIad | foxlit: the toxbox has a IsUsable API that would be nice for opie, like a lot of toys that aren't usable by other classes or outside specific zones and such |
| 20:22.17 | Simca | t |
| 20:22.24 | VIad | toybox* |
| 20:22.33 | Simca | TradeSkillUI has similar problems with its item-related queries |
| 20:22.55 | Simca | in those cases, afaik, it fires zero events when it makes its server requests and loads stuff into the cache |
| 20:23.06 | Simca | so you just have to repeatedly attempt the same function over and over until it works |
| 20:23.25 | TheDanW | i agree, some decisions regarding the async part were made before the UI team was involved, but we didn't have time to artichect and implement better system for 7.0.3 |
| 20:24.28 | Simca | yeah makes sense |
| 20:24.32 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.57 | VIad | randomizer? |
| 20:25.11 | TheDanW | looks good to me ;) |
| 20:25.24 | Semlar | the weapons seem to not update nearly as frequently as the rest of the gear |
| 20:25.34 | Simca | is that your addon scanning the display to item relationships? lol |
| 20:25.37 | Semlar | sometimes it just gets hung up |
| 20:25.45 | VIad | I'd make slot machine wheels for each slot appear and roll fast, then slow down over a random item in a sequence, max 3 seconds total for the animation or what ever |
| 20:27.03 | Semlar | maybe it just doesn't like me calling SetPending on something that's still loading |
| 20:27.41 | Simca | i would wager that loading thousands of items a second is not a use case that was thoroughly tested. |
| 20:27.48 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: Transmog Roulette \o/ |
| 20:27.48 | TheDanW | it looks more likely that its an issue with the async model loads than item data |
| 20:28.18 | VIad | would be better if it just transmogged each roll so you lost money, like real roulette :p |
| 20:28.37 | Simca | weapons are inherently more complicated as well, there is some weapon-specific animation functionality that has to be considered |
| 20:28.46 | Semlar | any idea how i could make it handle it better TheDanW |
| 20:28.52 | Simca | so i would expect that they would take a little bit longer at least |
| 20:28.57 | Semlar | it's not really that big of a deal i guess |
| 20:30.42 | TheDanW | you might try waiting onmodelloaded callbacks to trigger before trying new models |
| 20:31.37 | Shockah | are we allowed to link our addons here? |
| 20:32.20 | Thunder_Child | Why wouldn't you be allowed? |
| 20:32.27 | Shockah | no idea, i'm new here |
| 20:32.37 | Shockah | and just super excited i managed to "finish" an addon of my own |
| 20:32.38 | VIad | not if it's private server related :d |
| 20:32.42 | Shockah | https://www.reddit.com/r/wowaddons/comments/4vodyu/plug_ibraidloot_simple_upgradeoffspectransmogpass/ |
| 20:33.16 | VIad | n1 |
| 20:33.46 | Thunder_Child | ~lart VIad |
| 20:33.46 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of VIad |
| 20:33.48 | Ammako | looks useful |
| 20:33.55 | VIad | ~hug Thunder_Child |
| 20:33.55 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Thunder_Child and suddenly hugs Thunder_Child tightly |
| 20:34.17 | Thunder_Child | ~dodge VIad |
| 20:34.17 | purl | at the last second thunder_child dodges out of the way of VIad's malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 20:35.40 | VIad | ~squeeze Thunder_Child |
| 20:35.40 | purl | ACTION squeezes the juice out of Thunder_Child until there just ain't nothin left |
| 20:35.50 | Thunder_Child | ~whaledodge VIad |
| 20:35.50 | purl | 15 whales teleport around thunder_child, protecting thunder_child from any harm as a result of VIad's actions |
| 20:36.20 | VIad | ~superhug Thunder_Child |
| 20:36.20 | purl | ACTION hugs Thunder_Child until their eyes burst out. |
| 20:36.34 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleparry VIad |
| 20:36.34 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry VIad's attacks. |
| 20:36.45 | VIad | ~whalehug Thunder_Child |
| 20:36.45 | purl | ACTION Persuades a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh to hug Thunder_Child |
| 20:36.54 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleshield |
| 20:36.54 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield thunder_child from the blast. |
| 20:37.31 | VIad | ~pat Thunder_Child |
| 20:37.31 | purl | ACTION pats Thunder_Child and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 20:37.55 | Semlar | TheDanW: it doesn't appear to actually fire OnModelLoaded for equipping things |
| 20:38.15 | Thunder_Child | ~whalenuke VIad |
| 20:38.16 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around VIad with his mind powers. |
| 20:38.30 | VIad | you are even more hostile towards me than Torhal |
| 20:38.41 | Thunder_Child | Where do you think Torhal learned it? |
| 20:38.51 | VIad | no wonder people punch you |
| 20:39.12 | Semlar | a ton of transmog events fire though |
| 20:39.12 | TheDanW | Semlar: that is unfortunate :( |
| 20:40.33 | Thunder_Child | VIad: Because I am awesome. |
| 20:41.11 | kd3 | hey thedanw, any chance you've seen this? http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20747794934 |
| 20:42.04 | VIad | ^ reminds me of wotlk loot aoe issues :p |
| 20:43.04 | Semlar | i don't know if currency has every worked right |
| 20:43.25 | Semlar | ever |
| 20:44.41 | Thunder_Child | It sounds like it has. |
| 20:45.01 | VIad | dont think currency has tbh |
| 20:47.03 | TheDanW | kd3: i did see it, i don't have any additional info at this time though |
| 20:47.11 | kd3 | kk |
| 20:47.36 | VIad | puts the pitchfork back in the barn. |
| 20:51.25 | diesal | are the spell formulas skill tooltips use to calculate damage publicy accesible? or anyone know of an addon with fairly accurate skill damage formulas? |
| 20:52.16 | Andols | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.29 | Simca | publically accessible - depends on the definition of this |
| 20:53.40 | Simca | can people outside of blizzard access them? yes |
| 20:53.49 | Simca | can the WoW API? no |
| 20:54.25 | Gnarfoz | "they're in data files that some people have, over the years, figured out how to parse"? |
| 20:54.50 | diesal | someone said simcraft does that to an extent |
| 20:54.55 | Simca | last time I checked, SimulationCraft had the best spell parser |
| 20:55.12 | Simca | it also happens to be the only one that is open source too, so there's that |
| 20:55.43 | Simca | wowhead and wowdb also have spell parsers, but they're both pretty lacking |
| 20:56.02 | Simca | pretty sure wowhead's doesn't even do multiplication |
| 20:56.11 | diesal | but if i cant adapt the forumals for real time use through the wow api not much use to me |
| 20:56.52 | Simca | you could adapt the formulas, if you stored all of the tooltips in a lua file |
| 20:56.59 | Simca | and hated your life enough to constantly update it |
| 20:57.12 | kd3 | there was an addon back in... wrath? that tried to do it, but it had hardcoded everything |
| 20:57.26 | Simca | yeah, DoctorDamage or something like that |
| 20:57.29 | diesal | drdamage did something along those lines? |
| 20:57.33 | Simca | yeah |
| 20:58.00 | Simca | you just have to be constantly on top of updating a very complex and frequently changing set of data |
| 20:58.14 | Simca | any author trying to do that won't last long usually |
| 20:58.32 | FireSiku | Wouldnt it be possible to use an auto-generated file from the datamining parser? |
| 20:58.36 | diesal | dont plan to do it for all spells just key abilites |
| 20:58.59 | Simca | sure, you would have to, but you'd also have to constantly adjust the parser |
| 20:59.25 | Simca | i think we've made probably 30 different changes to the wowdb spell parser in the last 3 months alone |
| 20:59.50 | FireSiku | Damn |
| 21:00.39 | VIad | Simca: open source project driven by hundreds of hardcore nerds, have a great parser? how?? :o |
| 21:00.42 | diesal | i was parsing tooltips in game , but after awhile i think the ui throttles reading them it starts returning 0 |
| 21:01.22 | Simca | part of the problem is that blizzard botches their own tooltip syntax in several spots |
| 21:01.55 | Simca | so you need a manual system on top of it to correct mistakes |
| 21:02.22 | diesal | yeah there was few abilites i had multiple search patterns for beause they decided to just randomly change the wording |
| 21:03.17 | Simca | i remember a couple weeks ago i spent like an hour tracking down why a DH ability said you gained 3000% max health |
| 21:03.29 | VIad | 3000%? amazing! |
| 21:03.32 | Simca | just to find out it was wrong ingame too and they're just bad at tooltips |
| 21:03.42 | diesal | lol |
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| 21:04.42 | diesal | leveling a fury warrior today and i hit 28 get whirlwind, stat using it and wondering why meat cleaver wasnt proccing.... |
| 21:05.02 | Simca | you probably don't get meat cleaver until the 60s or 70s |
| 21:05.06 | Simca | procs are generally way higher |
| 21:05.16 | diesal | yeah lvl 58 |
| 21:05.28 | diesal | but its not mentioned in the spell book as a passive buff |
| 21:05.47 | diesal | it was just stted as a proc on whirlwind at level 28 |
| 21:05.55 | Simca | yeah when they 'removed passives' what they did was just hide them, lol |
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| 21:06.56 | Simca | so are you trying to make an addon to accurately indicate when a proc won't work until a higher level? |
| 21:08.02 | diesal | nah , just a usage scenario for abilities , kind of like a spell flash |
| 21:08.22 | diesal | ie. if its worth executing based on these mobs health vs executes damage |
| 21:09.16 | diesal | the* not these |
| 21:38.12 | foxlit | and 53 pamphlets later, I'm free. |
| 21:39.12 | VIad | did EU get one day earlier maintenance to make it more like US? |
| 21:39.18 | VIad | I remember some blue post about EU maintenance times |
| 21:39.31 | VIad | but unsure if it actually changed anything, like, legion launch tuesday or still wednesday? |
| 21:39.50 | Stanzilla | no |
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| 22:00.45 | Gnarfoz | expansion launches don't coincide with maintenance days |
| 22:01.05 | Gnarfoz | s/don't/don't necessarily/ |
| 22:01.35 | nevcairiel | EU also launches expansions before the US, its the only thing we get a head start on |
| 22:01.42 | Gnarfoz | ! ^^ |
| 22:01.52 | nevcairiel | because its independent of the maintenance time |
| 22:02.07 | Gnarfoz | some of the time we also got "playable after patch" first, because US was still unfucking themselves while EU got a smooth patch |
| 22:02.16 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 22:02.46 | Unkle | so what you're saying is "US, use more lube"? |
| 22:03.22 | Gnarfoz | no, they need to keep on doing what they do. It half depends on the EU team getting an idea of what the US team fucked up, I bet. :D |
| 22:03.44 | nevcairiel | thats likely part of it |
| 22:04.00 | mckenziemc | douses Unkle in used motor oil. |
| 22:04.00 | nevcairiel | any deployment issues are already resolved by the time the EU guys do it |
| 22:04.16 | Gnarfoz | and new ones invented |
| 22:04.17 | Unkle | mckenziemc: Not my kink, man. |
| 22:04.47 | nevcairiel | 7.0 deploy was miraculously fast and issue free on both sides of the pond though |
| 22:05.03 | mfgmfg | issue free at first but a few things cropped up |
| 22:05.23 | nevcairiel | bugs in the game dont count, thats not the server crews problem =p |
| 22:09.04 | Thunder_Child | Unkle: Do not want to know your kink. Ever, |
| 22:09.18 | Thunder_Child | s/,/./ |
| 22:09.31 | Unkle | Thunder_Child: I don't ever plan on sharing. |
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| 22:09.43 | Thunder_Child | Unkle: Not sure I trust you. |
| 22:09.53 | foxlit | let the guesssing begin. |
| 22:10.00 | Unkle | Have I given you cause not to? |
| 22:10.41 | Thunder_Child | I feel like you have mentioned things before that I did not want to know. It's been so long though so it is just a feeling. |
| 22:11.25 | Unkle | *some* things one does not share without a whole lot of consent. *nod* |
| 22:11.50 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 22:12.05 | Thunder_Child | Pot met Kettle. |
| 22:12.17 | Thunder_Child | s/met/meet/ |
| 22:14.39 | karl_w_w | pot? stoner sloth |
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| 22:19.03 | Thunder_Child | Interesting that's where your thoughts went to |
| 22:19.52 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: You doing another poll this year for resturant choice? |
| 22:20.02 | Cairenn | Probably :p |
| 22:27.24 | Unkle | ... in. |
| 22:28.55 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I hear SeTec9 was rather happy about that patch speed (also, about getting rid of the "tooltip updates require client patches" malady, finally) |
| 22:30.30 | mfgmfg | yes i'm impressed by how much they are able to fix now without waiting for a tuesday patch, compared to how it was in vanilla/tbc/wotlk |
| 22:31.40 | Simca | server crew has always been pretty good for WoW, assuming different people handle the CDN anyway |
| 22:34.38 | Stanzilla | assuming those are even people |
| 22:34.53 | Ressy | lol |
| 22:35.18 | Neffi | imagines an army of cats running servers |
| 22:35.25 | Neffi | Torhal is a genius |
| 22:35.42 | Simca | CDN people got magically more competent, Gnarfoz suspects outsourcing |
| 22:35.44 | Stanzilla | Simca: did you watch what they did with sc2 today? |
| 22:36.01 | Simca | oh, nope. i don't pay attention to sc2 normally |
| 22:36.10 | Stanzilla | example |
| 22:36.12 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.17 | Stanzilla | I'm suspecting their new tactic for half pushes is using invalid version numbers |
| 22:37.49 | Simca | oh god |
| 22:38.01 | Simca | so the b.net app won't think it's an upgrade, lol |
| 22:38.08 | Stanzilla | yep |
| 22:38.51 | Simca | real build number is 44983 apparently |
| 22:39.21 | Simca | but yeah, for WoW, they've mostly eliminated half-pushes |
| 22:39.31 | Simca | by killing the builds line |
| 22:41.14 | Maldivia | Well, they still update retail,ptr and beta when they update on of them... |
| 22:42.04 | Simca | don't think so |
| 22:42.13 | Simca | but i could be wrong |
| 22:42.25 | LexSfX | what replaced UnitIsTapped? |
| 22:42.47 | LexSfX | http://wow.gamepedia.com/API_UnitIsTapped says it's removed and i am trying to update an addon that uses it |
| 22:43.24 | Stanzilla | I need to yell at [TOM_RUS] |
| 22:43.45 | Stanzilla | CASCExplorer no longer shows a build number in the build selector for the cdn |
| 22:44.01 | Simca | because it can't |
| 22:44.12 | Stanzilla | they really "fixed" that? |
| 22:44.27 | Simca | they removed build number and build name from build configs too |
| 22:44.34 | Simca | for WoW and a few other games |
| 22:44.35 | Stanzilla | dicks |
| 22:44.43 | Simca | I assume sc2 will stop being awful eventually |
| 22:45.58 | Simca | super ironically, literally the day that they made these changes, I had just finished a major upgrade for our patch scanner so it wouldn't run out of memory doing basic diffs when they did that (pushed the same update falsely to wow, wowt, and wow_beta simultaneously) |
| 22:46.46 | Simca | like we deployed my fix in between the last build in the old style and first build in this new style |
| 22:46.55 | Simca | if I had done nothing, the problem would have resolved itself |
| 22:47.32 | Stanzilla | don't you love when that happens |
| 22:49.57 | Gnarfoz | LexSfX: istapdenied or something |
| 22:50.33 | LexSfX | Gnarfoz: i see UnitIsTapDenied eventually, but how would i use it for this line? if ( not UnitPlayerControlled(unit) and UnitIsTapped(unit) and not UnitIsTappedByPlayer(unit) and not UnitIsTappedByAllThreatList(unit) ) then |
| 22:50.34 | Simca | ah, yep |
| 22:51.08 | Simca | if (not UnitPlayerControlled(unit) and not UnitIsTapDenied(unit)) then |
| 22:51.08 | Gnarfoz | no idea what those other ones do |
| 22:51.24 | Gnarfoz | the new one just tells you if you can tap it or not |
| 22:51.30 | Gnarfoz | (tap dat) |
| 22:52.22 | LexSfX | Simca: thanks |
| 22:53.06 | Simca | actually i'm wrong, just: if (not UnitPlayerControlled(unit) and UnitIsTapDenied(unit)) then |
| 22:53.19 | LexSfX | Simca: yeah, i figured that myself too. thanks! :) |
| 22:53.27 | Simca | yup np |
| 23:09.07 | Stanzilla | I feel like you guys in here should have this, too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfc42Pb5RA8 |
| 23:10.35 | Gnarfoz | DO NOT TRUST HIM |
| 23:11.30 | Stanzilla | oh yes you want to |
| 23:14.32 | Simca | awful |
| 23:17.23 | *** join/#wowuidev MaxFrost (~MaxFrost@c-174-53-177-161.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 23:22.19 | Stanzilla | I play |
| 23:22.21 | Stanzilla | pokemon go |
| 23:22.23 | Stanzilla | every day |
| 23:26.36 | Simca | blizzard, you slay me sometimes |
| 23:26.58 | Simca | http://www.wowdb.com/spells/203278-tinder look at the spell tooltip vs buff tooltip |
| 23:28.08 | Simca | the best part is that the spell effects disagree with both of them |
| 23:29.48 | foxlit | Spell and details are consistent; the buff is just wrong. |
| 23:30.03 | Thunder_Child | "Tinder. Swipe left to put out flames." |
| 23:30.30 | Unkle | Swipe right to hope something catches fire. |
| 23:31.43 | Simca | also, I didn't even notice this, but "8 sec sec" |
| 23:31.57 | Simca | that's not a wowdb parsing error either, that's actually in the string |
| 23:32.00 | Simca | rofl |
| 23:33.51 | Simca | actually, it could be a parsing error if they detect that kind of mistake in the code and remove the second 'sec' |
| 23:36.06 | Simca | nope, it's wrong ingame too |
