| 00:00.19 | VIad | :( |
| 00:12.57 | nebula | nevcairiel: pretty sure thedanw said that the function should bail if the resource is the same when we were initially talking about it |
| 00:13.07 | nebula | have they talked about it more since? |
| 00:17.26 | zenzelezz | "It's been a long time since I played ARMA, I should try that again" [...] "I remember why it's been a long time since I played ARMA..." |
| 00:22.25 | Infus | anyone having troubles logging onto the beta atm? |
| 00:25.28 | VIad | Infus: realms had restarts not long ago |
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| 00:47.02 | p3lim | huh, game killed itself when I tried to clear the chatframe :s |
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| 00:47.07 | p3lim | not a crash, just killed itself |
| 00:47.23 | p3lim | every time |
| 00:47.29 | Ssateneth | rip |
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| 01:08.49 | Ironii | finally managed to add custom conditionals to my unitframes o/ |
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| 02:06.00 | Ssateneth | So, following up on my SetTexture lag issue. I did something hacky |
| 02:06.50 | Ssateneth | Theres an ingame picture file that works as a line, but isn't the color I quite want. it's Interface\\TaxiFrame\\UI-Taxi-Line |
| 02:07.23 | Ssateneth | Instead of refering my own Interface\\AddOns\\addonname\\LineTemplate, I refered to Interface\\TaxiFrame\\UI-Taxi-Line instead for SetTexture |
| 02:07.35 | Ssateneth | Bam, all lag goes away. 81 FPS instead of 6 FPS |
| 02:08.08 | Ssateneth | On a hunch, I created that file and file directory, plopped in the old LineTemplate.tga, renamed it to UI-Taxi-Line.tga |
| 02:08.24 | Ssateneth | What do you fukkin know, it uses the old line that I want, AND theres no lag |
| 02:08.30 | Ssateneth | What sort of voodoo is going on here. |
| 02:11.44 | diesal | somoene said there was an issue with textures loading every time you called SetTexture instead of using a cached version |
| 02:17.38 | Ssateneth | oh hai diesal |
| 02:18.10 | Ssateneth | Funny you should speak up :P |
| 02:19.18 | Ssateneth | About to PM you a link to some UI stuff that uses your code. It doesn't look quite right on 7.x. Got a patch? |
| 02:19.46 | diesal | once the pre patch goes live ill update my libraries, tehre all ready to go |
| 02:20.35 | Ssateneth | Alrighty then :) |
| 02:20.49 | Ssateneth | Should be more or less drop in and good to go? |
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| 02:27.50 | diesal | https://gyazo.com/1ad3953ef6f7d20868bf162502f5ad9c |
| 02:30.10 | Ssateneth | auto-comment yum |
| 02:30.27 | Ssateneth | would shift clicking 2 numbers do a large comment-out block? |
| 02:31.26 | Ssateneth | --[[ ]] |
| 02:37.20 | diesal | doubleclick highlights the word under the cursor |
| 02:39.06 | diesal | word / variable |
| 02:49.14 | Ssateneth | mm |
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| 05:11.34 | Torhal | Ok, the C_Transmog and C_TransmogCollection APIs are officially evil. |
| 05:25.58 | pnorman | I haven't found a text editor I really like a lot for Lua |
| 05:29.40 | Torhal | I've been using IntelliJ IDEA with sylvanaar's Lua plugin. |
| 05:32.15 | mckenziemc | plugs Torhal into an electrical outlet. |
| 05:33.09 | Torhal | plugs mckenziemc into Amarande's mind. |
| 05:44.33 | mckenziemc | wipes the boot record |
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| 06:43.06 | nevcairiel | nebula: it does that, unless you run it from within OnSizeChanged =p, but if you hide them for longer then one OnUpdate then it releases the texture and need to reload it |
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| 06:49.09 | pnorman | I've used clion + lua stuff, but not sure if it's fully set up. Visual Studio Code isn't bad either |
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| 07:17.22 | AmiYuy | Lol, Torhal I think TorelTwiddler completely agrees with you about the Transmog APIs. |
| 07:18.49 | nevcairiel | most of their APIs have the same problem - they are grown around the specific UI they want to build, instead of building coherent APIs first and then building an UI on top of that |
| 07:18.55 | nevcairiel | which makes them ..weird |
| 07:19.30 | AmiYuy | Yeah, it made for some interesting gymnastics just to find if something is transmoggable or not. |
| 07:20.05 | AmiYuy | That makes sense though why it would end up that way. |
| 07:24.43 | Torhal | It's weird that C_MountJournal and C_TradeSkillUI have similar API, yet C_PetJournal and C_ToyBox and C_TransmogCollection are completely different. The weirder of the them being the Transmog and PetJournal ones. |
| 07:25.40 | Torhal | With the former two, I can just say "Give me ALL the IDs." The PetJournal requires a weird flag dance, the ToyBox requires iteration to get the IDs, and TransmogCollection is just completely batshit. |
| 07:26.14 | AmiYuy | lol |
| 07:30.04 | Torhal | Ressy really wants Transmog/Wardrobe/Appearance (Blizzard can't make up their mind what the fuck it's called) support in Collectinator, but the more I look at this stuff the more I think "Nope." |
| 07:33.28 | AmiYuy | All I know is we spent hours trying to figure out which functions did what we wanted for Can I Mog It?, then discovered the ones we picked didn't work universally, found some new ones, repeat, and now seemed to have found the right one, but then there's inconsistency in the way the items are tagged and just... |
| 07:35.11 | AmiYuy | Expected there to be a "IsTransmoggable" function by default, but of course not. |
| 07:36.03 | Torhal | With professions and mounts, we need a blacklist because they return IDs which were either never in the game or have been removed. |
| 07:37.43 | Torhal | I just need something where I can say "Give me all the appearance IDs. All of them." Then I can work from that. Nope. Apparently I need to iterate through one API and assign stuff to a model I'll never display, then call a method on the model to get more information which requires more gymnastics, etc. |
| 07:38.04 | Torhal | Wackadoodle. |
| 07:38.43 | nevcairiel | that comes back to being something blizzard doesnt need, so its not something the API offers in a straight forward way |
| 07:39.04 | Torhal | Yeah |
| 07:39.19 | Torhal | They also didn't need the GetAllIDs methods in C_MountJournal or C_TradeSkillUI but they're there. |
| 07:39.34 | Torhal | Just odd. |
| 07:40.33 | AmiYuy | It seems odd that they'll say "Addons can do that" and it's so messy it's hard. That's why they didn't put more transmog tooltips in, decided to let addons handle it. |
| 07:42.42 | AmiYuy | I'll admit, I'm looking forward to a Wardrobe replacement addon though. I don't like it being limited to my class. |
| 07:44.04 | Torhal | I'm pretty sure it'll be locked to class no matter what. |
| 07:44.09 | Torhal | Otherwise, PVP folks would scream bloody murder. |
| 07:44.53 | AmiYuy | I mean so I can browse what cloth I have learned on my hunter. |
| 07:45.10 | Torhal | Aah |
| 07:46.48 | nevcairiel | transmog restrictions are definitely not going to change Torhal, they emphasized that several times :) |
| 07:47.01 | Torhal | I didn't think so. |
| 07:47.05 | Torhal | That would be... weird. |
| 07:47.41 | nevcairiel | the biggest problem would be what do you do with cloth-classes, let you mog them plate? would only be fair if plate wearers can mog cloth because they can technically wear it, right? |
| 07:47.45 | nevcairiel | so.. just don't |
| 07:50.57 | AmiYuy | Well, can't anyone mog the Stormwind cosmetic set? That's "plate". |
| 07:51.38 | nevcairiel | thats special because its marked as cosmetic, even though it looks like plate |
| 07:52.05 | nevcairiel | looks totally weird on non-humans |
| 07:54.23 | AmiYuy | Right, but regarding PvP and "looking" like your class. |
| 07:54.56 | AmiYuy | Not too bad on Night Elf, but they wear most plate well. The hat looks funny on everyone. |
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| 08:02.59 | znf | "look like your class"? |
| 08:03.04 | znf | I've been looking like a warlock for 2 expansions |
| 08:16.43 | Ketho | with all the collections stuff in place, wouldn't that make it easier for the dance studio |
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| 08:23.35 | Miiru | did they exclude show lua errors? oO |
| 08:23.35 | nevcairiel | i hope they never waste precious animation resources on something silly like that |
| 08:26.53 | Ketho | but they promised :( |
| 08:42.40 | fewyn | so that's cool |
| 08:42.55 | fewyn | there's an exploit out where you can downgrade a 3ds that was accidently upgraded to 11 |
| 08:42.59 | fewyn | before you exploited it |
| 08:43.20 | fewyn | (and it actually worked) |
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| 09:33.29 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 09:33.55 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 11:02.09 | znf | Wonder what's up with pokemon's capacity |
| 11:04.25 | nebula | they were getting ddos'd yesterday |
| 11:04.52 | nebula | unless you ment the actual number of pokemon you have |
| 11:10.12 | znf | servers, yes |
| 11:28.14 | Gnarfoz | they didn't find the AppEngine "scaling" button |
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| 11:51.08 | znf | that egg hatching walker timer is broken as hell |
| 11:51.23 | znf | s/timer/distance tracker/ |
| 12:10.26 | Simca | Gnarfoz: lol |
| 12:16.25 | VIad | I tried to run pokemon go in virtualbox on various android x86/64 versions but no luck :( |
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| 12:21.56 | znf | VIad, http://i.imgur.com/m0ujSdm.jpg |
| 12:22.01 | haste | znf: oh? it seems to be working quite nicely here |
| 12:22.08 | haste | as long as the game is able to sync with the servers :P |
| 12:22.18 | VIad | what client is that? |
| 12:22.19 | znf | well, that's the issue, I guess |
| 12:22.22 | znf | VIad, bluestacks |
| 12:22.30 | VIad | oh |
| 12:22.36 | nevcairiel | they do tend to ban cheaters, so beware =p |
| 12:22.43 | znf | I /did/ actually try it outside, and it tracked like 100 meters out of 2kms |
| 12:22.46 | znf | so fuck that :-/ |
| 12:22.59 | haste | I've popped at least 30 eggs so far :P |
| 12:23.13 | haste | game has tracked 50km walking |
| 12:23.16 | VIad | nevcairiel: as long the apk isnt modified, should be safe |
| 12:23.25 | VIad | unless you teleport around the world all the time :p |
| 12:25.56 | znf | weird, my friends report the same issues with walking |
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| 12:26.47 | karl_w_w | did you DDOS steam, VIad? |
| 12:27.02 | VIad | no karl_w_w:( |
| 12:27.19 | karl_w_w | if that game I won doesn't count I'm blaming you |
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| 13:46.40 | mythos_ | hi. is there an API CALL that returns party1 to party 5 current title? couldn't find anything like this to google |
| 13:48.41 | Gnarfoz | znf: you realize (as with Ingress) you have to have the game open for it to track anything? ^^ |
| 13:49.14 | znf | yes |
| 13:49.17 | znf | ofc I had it |
| 13:49.44 | Gnarfoz | just saying, some people think they can lock their phone and have it work. ^^ |
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| 14:29.41 | Stanzilla | Cairenn Torhal https://www.facebook.com/heftig.co/videos/599407203580346/ |
| 14:32.40 | Torhal | Whoah |
| 14:32.54 | zenzelezz | <3 |
| 14:36.37 | Stanzilla | held my breath there for a few moments |
| 14:39.43 | znf | Stanzilla, the cool thing about psyfiend is that you can solo pretty much any mob |
| 14:41.43 | Stanzilla | cool |
| 14:42.20 | Semlar | is that a pokemon |
| 14:43.02 | znf | anything is a pokemon if you're brave enough |
| 14:43.24 | Semlar | lewd |
| 14:44.51 | znf | what are those leaves in pokemon? |
| 14:47.34 | karl_w_w | https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/4t90i3/this_whole_thing_is_getting_ridiculous_pokemon_go/ |
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| 14:49.10 | Torhal | Semlar: Am I right in my deduction that, if I want to get a list of all appearanceIDs and do things with them, I need to make a fucking model and operate off of that? |
| 14:49.16 | Torhal | Or was I just tired and reading shit out of context? |
| 14:50.00 | Semlar | yes |
| 14:50.09 | Semlar | maybe |
| 14:50.10 | Torhal | To which? |
| 14:50.21 | Torhal | Don't make me cut a Neffi. |
| 14:50.36 | Semlar | you want the appearance ID of every item in the game? |
| 14:50.52 | Neffi | :/ |
| 14:50.58 | Neffi | :\ |
| 14:51.07 | Neffi | Torhal: I'm playing eso |
| 14:51.09 | Neffi | !!! |
| 14:51.09 | Semlar | there are transmog functions but i think you can only get a list of items that you're capable of transmogging with on that character |
| 14:51.10 | Torhal | Ressy wants to add Wardrobe support to Collectinator. |
| 14:51.11 | Torhal | The API is batshit. |
| 14:51.26 | Torhal | So Wardrobe support is basically out. |
| 14:51.41 | Torhal | pickles Neffi in Daedric snot. |
| 14:51.52 | Semlar | if you only care about the ones you can actually use, then you don't have to use a model |
| 14:51.54 | Neffi | eww its all slimy |
| 14:52.25 | Torhal | I want to get ALL of them, so she can build a DB for Collectinator. |
| 14:53.02 | znf | The hardest pokemon go part is... the server |
| 14:54.38 | Semlar | i suppose you might be able to just call C_TransmogCollection.GetAppearanceSourceInfo on a huge range of numbers |
| 14:55.04 | Semlar | i don't see why you'd have to use a model for that |
| 14:55.18 | Torhal | Ok, so I was reading things out of context. |
| 14:55.27 | zenzelezz | best way to read |
| 14:55.30 | Semlar | well you can't give it an item ID |
| 14:55.37 | Semlar | it takes a source ID |
| 14:55.39 | Torhal | A huge range of numbers...that seems bad. |
| 14:55.43 | Semlar | but if you're just scanning everything anyway |
| 14:55.49 | Semlar | it returns an item ID |
| 14:55.57 | Semlar | and its appearance ID |
| 14:56.38 | Semlar | you're going to be scanning a huge range of numbers anyway if you use item IDs too |
| 14:56.41 | Torhal | I was too busy trying to make sense of how to get all the things to even look into what the hell a source or appearance is relative to an item. |
| 14:57.10 | Semlar | alright so the "source" ID of an item is essentially a reference to the item that provided the look |
| 14:57.14 | Torhal | Just seems like a big "Yeah.... fuck off" API. |
| 14:57.25 | Semlar | i don't know why they didn't just use item IDs |
| 14:57.38 | Semlar | because it's basically just a reference to a particular item |
| 14:57.49 | Semlar | at least as far as i recall |
| 14:58.34 | Semlar | i was considering just making a library for this but then i remembered i don't release anything |
| 14:58.51 | Torhal | You're a Bad Man⢠|
| 14:58.56 | Semlar | trying to figure out what all of the api functions do on your own would be a pain |
| 14:59.08 | Semlar | since they don't make any sense |
| 14:59.23 | Torhal | Yeah, I was thinking I'd just throw something together like I did with the other collections, and went WAAAAAAAAT |
| 14:59.30 | Semlar | i pretty much had to just test every function to see what it did |
| 14:59.38 | Semlar | and which ones worked on items that you couldn't actually use |
| 14:59.39 | Gnarfoz | znf: I wish the server was a bit harder so it didn't fall over all the time :p |
| 14:59.55 | Torhal | I'm more inclined to say "Fuck this. You guys didn't have this shit before, and I don't even want to work on this fucking thing." |
| 15:00.10 | Torhal | >.> |
| 15:00.21 | Semlar | why do they need support for items they can't use |
| 15:00.21 | Ressy | ... |
| 15:00.40 | Torhal | So they can find them |
| 15:00.42 | Torhal | That's the point of the AddOn. "Go here to get this" |
| 15:00.46 | Ressy | Like I said.. It looks to be based off basevisualid. |
| 15:01.10 | Torhal | I read these words, and I go WAT |
| 15:01.11 | Torhal | What the hell does that even mean? |
| 15:01.23 | Semlar | to be fair i don't know what they mean either |
| 15:01.34 | Ketho | still don't get why sometimes the name doesn't appear when I call GetAppearanceSources() http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53789 |
| 15:01.40 | Torhal | "Yeah, just use the base visual ID. You know, that thing that never existed before and isn't explained anywhere." |
| 15:01.47 | Ressy | lol |
| 15:01.57 | Ressy | its essentially the appearance id |
| 15:02.01 | Ressy | I do believe. |
| 15:02.08 | Semlar | it has to be cached ketho and there's no event for it |
| 15:02.10 | Torhal | Which is... |
| 15:02.11 | Torhal | Some thing. |
| 15:02.14 | Torhal | That nobody can adequately explain :) |
| 15:02.34 | Ressy | every appearance has an id. Multiple items can have the same appearance. |
| 15:02.38 | Semlar | appearance ID is a number they created to refer to a unique appearance |
| 15:02.41 | Torhal | And since the method names make no fucking sense, it'll be a days-long marathon of "Nope. That didn't work" |
| 15:02.41 | Ressy | nods |
| 15:02.49 | Torhal | And you know how much I love Collectinator. |
| 15:02.50 | Torhal | >.> |
| 15:02.55 | Ressy | bah |
| 15:02.57 | Stanzilla | 0 |
| 15:03.20 | fewyn | sigh |
| 15:03.23 | Semlar | i wrote some stuff here torhal http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=316030&postcount=2 i'm not sure if that's where you're reading about the dressup model |
| 15:03.29 | fewyn | what am i going to do with all these warbender inks |
| 15:03.40 | fewyn | warbinder |
| 15:03.44 | Semlar | it might sort of help tell you what the functions do |
| 15:03.49 | Torhal | Semlar: It was |
| 15:04.04 | Semlar | although i only added functions that it didn't already support |
| 15:04.29 | Ressy | fewyn: You can make Tome of the Clear Mind with them. |
| 15:04.57 | Ressy | Use: Calms the mind, allowing you to adjust talents while not in combat for 1 min. Cannot be used above level 100. |
| 15:05.11 | Torhal | Semlar: I'd have to have an itemLink or itemID beforehand, though, which kind of defeats the purpose. I just want to say "Give me your stuff" like I can with all the other collection APIs. |
| 15:05.40 | Semlar | there are functions that can return every item that you can *transmog with* for their transmog ui |
| 15:05.49 | Semlar | but they don't work for the other items |
| 15:05.51 | Torhal | Though I suppose I can build a list based off of 1 - 10000000000 and save results >.> |
| 15:06.12 | fewyn | Ressy: don't those sell from the vendor in legion? |
| 15:06.13 | Ressy | appearance ids only go to 27178 |
| 15:06.15 | Ketho | is there maybe any library for caching appearance stuff? for some reason it takes a lot of memory just calling GetAppearanceSources :S |
| 15:06.38 | Semlar | because it returns a bunch of tables |
| 15:06.39 | fewyn | i have 4627 warbinder's inks |
| 15:06.40 | Torhal | I guess it would help if I had any familiarity with the transmog system to begin with. I've just kinda gone "Oh, that's kinda neat" and forgotten all about it after they announced it for Cata. |
| 15:06.44 | fewyn | and no idea what to do with them |
| 15:06.57 | Semlar | well some of these functions return tables |
| 15:06.58 | Ressy | Torhal: I'm looking at the data tables for LegionWardrobe. >.> |
| 15:07.40 | Torhal | This is one of those rare cases where actually playing the game and giving a shit might help. |
| 15:07.52 | Ressy | lol |
| 15:08.01 | Ressy | fewyn: http://legion.wowhead.com/item=113111/warbinders-ink#reagent-for |
| 15:08.14 | fewyn | why didn't i think of that |
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| 15:08.38 | fewyn | oh |
| 15:08.43 | fewyn | tome's DON'T come from a vendor |
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| 15:09.08 | Ressy | So if you wanna change while not in a town, you gotta use one of those. |
| 15:09.10 | Torhal | Semlar: So I would need a DressUpModel to find all the things? |
| 15:09.22 | fewyn | thanks Ressy |
| 15:09.30 | Semlar | only if you want to start from an item ID and get its "sourceID" which you can use to get its appearance |
| 15:09.34 | PhatsoTGT | fewyn think of what? |
| 15:09.57 | fewyn | looking at wowhead's regeant of tab |
| 15:09.57 | Semlar | so if you have a list of item IDs and you want to get appearances for them, using a dressup model might make sense |
| 15:10.09 | Torhal | I have no clue what an "appearance" even is, so no idea if I need that or not. |
| 15:10.10 | fewyn | i assumed there was still like 500 items that you could craft with warbinder's |
| 15:10.19 | Ressy | They removed'em all. |
| 15:10.22 | Torhal | I guess I needed to have Ressy draft a PR document. |
| 15:10.25 | fewyn | i noticed |
| 15:10.25 | Semlar | i don't know what the addon is supposed to do |
| 15:10.29 | Ressy | All the major glyphs are goneeeee |
| 15:10.37 | Ressy | blinks |
| 15:10.42 | fewyn | i am kinda happy and kinda sad glyphs are going away |
| 15:10.46 | PhatsoTGT | makes me thinking... is it worth stacking up ink for legion? |
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| 15:10.55 | PhatsoTGT | thats the same ink we make with wod herbs right? |
| 15:11.00 | Ressy | took me about 40 minutes going through and removing all the removed glyphs from the ARL inscription module. |
| 15:11.05 | fewyn | i made a KILLING with it over the years |
| 15:11.10 | Torhal | Semlar: It tells you how to get shit you don't have. In order to do that, we need to have a DB of stuff. I need to make the DB and be able to update it as things are added/removed. |
| 15:11.18 | fewyn | but tbh glyphs are annoying |
| 15:11.24 | Ressy | snorts |
| 15:11.26 | Ressy | You update it. |
| 15:11.29 | Ressy | snorts |
| 15:11.53 | Torhal | Ressy: I make the game tell you the data you need to update it. I could just not do that and let you be all on your own :P |
| 15:12.00 | Ressy | noooo |
| 15:12.05 | Semlar | you just want a list of items? i don't know what you need the transmog info for |
| 15:12.10 | Torhal | So my statement stands. :) |
| 15:12.10 | fewyn | Torhal: an appearance is basically the model + skin of a armor/weapon? i think |
| 15:12.22 | Torhal | To be honest, neither do I. Ressy just said "We need to add Wardrobe support" |
| 15:12.43 | Torhal | And Blizzard isn't being helpful by calling it Transmog and Wardrobe and Appearance all at once. |
| 15:12.47 | Ressy | heh |
| 15:12.55 | Semlar | ressy what do you want it to do |
| 15:12.55 | fewyn | i noticed that |
| 15:13.42 | Ressy | Honestly, I don't know how it'll even display in the Collectinator panel considering some appearances have multiple items, and Collectinator doesn't currently support multiple itemids being set to something |
| 15:14.18 | Semlar | i would say most appearances have multiple source items |
| 15:14.20 | Ressy | I mean granted, many appearances are from 1 item. But a whole bunch can come from multiple. |
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| 15:15.10 | Torhal | First piece of the puzzle is requirements. |
| 15:15.19 | Torhal | Code can be changed. I need to know what's expected to even proceed :) |
| 15:15.21 | Semlar | this sounds like possibly something you can do on the fly on the item that you're interested in rather than creating a db of every item in the game |
| 15:15.34 | Miiru | You want to have an universal display of appearances? So people can see when playing cloth classes what plate appearances they are missing? |
| 15:15.40 | Torhal | Then either figure out what the fuck the API is doing or let Semlar. |
| 15:15.41 | Torhal | >.> |
| 15:16.18 | Semlar | that thread is for the addon "can i mog it" which adds transmog info to an item's tooltip |
| 15:16.40 | Torhal | Miiru: Think Ackis Recipe List (or Collectinator, since this is what it's for) for Wardrobe/Appearance/Transmog/Whatever The Hell Blizzard Is Calling It⢠|
| 15:17.34 | foxlit | recipe list mildly made sense as the default ui didn't tell you what you don't know. |
| 15:17.40 | Torhal | I was just told to add support. I don't even know how it works, and thought I'd just whip it together like I did for the other collections. This is no bueno. |
| 15:17.55 | Semlar | there's an appearances tab in-game when you hit shift+P |
| 15:18.19 | Ressy | I think the main draw of Collectinator, is the Locations tab. |
| 15:18.22 | foxlit | doesn't the wardrobe stuff tell you which appearances you don't have, and also which items would unlock them? |
| 15:18.28 | Semlar | yes |
| 15:18.45 | Miiru | ok so since you cannot add plate items when you loot it with a cloth char, cant you like take the appearances from the default ui (since it shows uncollected ones also) and then add the ones from other armor classes when they log to that class? |
| 15:18.56 | Semlar | it gives you a huge list of appearances to browse through and when you hover over one it lists out the items that you can use to get it |
| 15:19.08 | Semlar | and whether they're a boss drop or from a quest or something |
| 15:19.36 | Semlar | it doesn't tell you exactly how to acquire it though, which i'm guessing is what they want here |
| 15:19.40 | Torhal | So why do I need to add this to an AddOn? I am confused. |
| 15:19.42 | Torhal | Ah, yeah. |
| 15:20.08 | Semlar | and i see absolutely no reason to be able to get information about items you can't transmog if that's what it's for |
| 15:20.41 | Ressy | No.. We'd just hide that. |
| 15:21.29 | Semlar | torhal if you need to get a list of items like the wardrobe has in-game you can use C_TransmogCollection.GetCategoryAppearances(categoryID) |
| 15:22.15 | Semlar | which gives you the "visualID" of each item which can be used in some other function to get info on it |
| 15:22.41 | Semlar | there are 28 categories |
| 15:22.53 | Semlar | i don't know if there's a better way to do this than just iterating over all of them |
| 15:23.19 | Torhal | That would work for building the DB and checking to see if things have been added or removed. |
| 15:23.26 | Ressy | nods |
| 15:24.44 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure "visualID" is the appearanceID and they're just being inconsistent as usual |
| 15:25.22 | Semlar | C_TransmogCollection.GetAppearanceSources(appearanceID) gives you a list of sources, which are items that can give you that appearance |
| 15:26.04 | Semlar | and then C_TransmogCollection.GetAppearanceSourceInfo(sourceID) finally gives you the item ID that you're interested in |
| 15:26.10 | Torhal | And I'm assuming I'd have to iterate from 1 to 1,000,000,000 to be sure I caught all the IDs. |
| 15:26.32 | Ressy | theres only about 28k appeararance ids. |
| 15:26.34 | Ressy | many not even used. |
| 15:26.40 | Torhal | I saw C_TransmogCollection.GetOutfits and thought "Could it be that easy?" and it was not. |
| 15:27.18 | Ressy | and itemids are only up to like 120k so far? |
| 15:27.38 | Ressy | whoops. at least 140k |
| 15:29.54 | jro | Is there a list of the latest sound files somewhere? |
| 15:29.59 | jro | and paths |
| 15:30.50 | Semlar | i'm not sure if you can even play a sound from a file path any more |
| 15:31.12 | jro | hm |
| 15:31.23 | Semlar | they converted everything to file IDs |
| 15:31.40 | Torhal | I heard you can play "Pick Up The Pieces" by Average White Band, Semlar. |
| 15:32.15 | jro | PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Music\\ZoneMusic\\DMF_L70ETC01.mp3") |
| 15:32.19 | jro | still works |
| 15:33.00 | Semlar | you can't get a list of the files that aren't under the "interface" directory any more |
| 15:33.12 | jro | someone had a nice site with all the xml/built in addons from legion just cant remember the site |
| 15:33.34 | Semlar | i generated a list right before they removed file paths, it's like 50mb though |
| 15:33.55 | Torhal | And prone to being outdated. |
| 15:34.24 | Semlar | i'm not sure what's in the db2 files |
| 15:34.29 | Semlar | for the sound files |
| 15:34.29 | jro | can you play them by id? |
| 15:34.58 | Semlar | i know there are sound "kits" you can play by ID that are hooked up in the db2 files |
| 15:35.16 | Semlar | i haven't done much with sound though |
| 15:48.09 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.40 | Torhal | Damn, Semlar. Being all shady with that 7z and shit. |
| 15:48.41 | Torhal | >.> |
| 15:48.53 | Semlar | better compression |
| 15:48.54 | fewyn | 7z is shady? |
| 15:48.59 | fewyn | 7z master race |
| 15:49.00 | foxlit | the fileid for your mp3 is 53438 |
| 15:49.06 | fewyn | ^5 Semlar |
| 15:49.39 | Semlar | it's a 50mb text file so |
| 15:50.54 | Gnarfoz | other formats than 7z exist? |
| 15:51.11 | Gnarfoz | Torhal proably bought a WinRAR licence! :p |
| 15:51.19 | jro | thanks sem |
| 15:54.52 | Torhal | I was obviously joking. |
| 15:55.09 | Torhal | Though there are folks who live under a rock and have no idea what 7zip is. |
| 15:55.18 | VIad | znf: my game works fine, but crashes when I try to battle/catch wild pkmn :( |
| 15:55.34 | znf | that's the server crapping it's pants |
| 15:55.40 | VIad | no |
| 15:55.45 | VIad | client freezes |
| 15:55.47 | znf | (if by crash you mean the game freezing) |
| 15:55.48 | znf | yes |
| 15:55.49 | VIad | no 3d models |
| 15:55.58 | VIad | if I turn off the AR it also crashes |
| 15:56.02 | znf | does it crash AFTER you catch it? |
| 15:56.03 | znf | or? |
| 15:56.04 | VIad | so far only manages to render the 3d overworld |
| 15:56.05 | VIad | no |
| 15:56.09 | VIad | crashes as soon combat starts |
| 15:56.14 | znf | oh, no idea then |
| 15:56.18 | VIad | I see the text "wild X appeared" and after a second, freeze :p |
| 15:56.49 | Gnarfoz | leaving AR on is just pointless |
| 15:57.00 | VIad | its on by default |
| 15:57.04 | Gnarfoz | and yes, if your client hangs, it's most likely the server not responding within their idiotically short timeout |
| 15:57.06 | VIad | I should try turn it off somehow |
| 15:57.16 | VIad | nono, this is bluestacks so android on the PC |
| 15:57.18 | Gnarfoz | yes, it's on by default, that's what I meant by "leaving it on" :p |
| 15:57.20 | VIad | not on my phone, phone is fine |
| 15:57.27 | Gnarfoz | oh you're trying to cheat, well, get lost |
| 15:57.44 | VIad | I am in the grass field right outside my door :p |
| 15:57.58 | Stanzilla | http://www.neowin.net/news/vulkan-enables-revolutionary-nintendo-64-emulator |
| 15:57.59 | Stanzilla | cool |
| 15:58.26 | Gnarfoz | UltraHLE or bust |
| 15:59.07 | VIad | amazing, n64 with vulcan |
| 15:59.10 | VIad | imagine the fpses |
| 16:00.50 | Gnarfoz | why are the fpses low? |
| 16:00.59 | VIad | high? |
| 16:01.10 | Gnarfoz | "low" doesn't mean high |
| 16:01.10 | znf | medium |
| 16:01.23 | VIad | who said they are low? |
| 16:01.29 | Gnarfoz | the article |
| 16:01.31 | jro | Semlar: here is it with just sounds - http://www.ohjeah.net/FileDataSounds.zip |
| 16:01.37 | jro | still 7mb |
| 16:01.52 | Gnarfoz | (also, I thought that's what you meant by imagine the fpses, implying they are usually low) |
| 16:01.59 | Gnarfoz | isn't it terrible outdated, tiny resolution, old hardware? they make it sound like n64 emulation has been impossible so far or something. |
| 16:02.04 | VIad | no, imagine the amazing fpses with vulcan |
| 16:02.15 | Gnarfoz | ... what |
| 16:02.32 | Gnarfoz | if they're not low right now, why do I care |
| 16:02.40 | Gnarfoz | if they are, see above |
| 16:02.49 | VIad | lol Gnarfoz |
| 16:03.03 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: the difference in architecture apparently made it pretty hard to render it accurately and fast |
| 16:03.05 | VIad | ptsd fps war flashbacks :p |
| 16:03.13 | Gnarfoz | VIad: u wot m8? |
| 16:03.20 | VIad | Ill fuckin stab u |
| 16:03.48 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: oh so it's about accuracy? because I distinctly remember being able to play n64 games ages ago. ^^ |
| 16:04.49 | VIad | znf: now the game crashed during battle :p worked when camera was off |
| 16:05.02 | VIad | I guess there is still a long way before android 3d emulation is stable ^^ |
| 16:05.26 | nevcairiel | you should really not whine when you use an emulator and it crashes :p |
| 16:05.43 | VIad | my n64 emulator never crashes :p |
| 16:05.48 | VIad | or ps2 |
| 16:06.21 | znf | it doesnt' crash for me |
| 16:06.29 | VIad | are you on windows? |
| 16:06.31 | znf | I just get the stupid freeze after capturing a pokemon once in a while |
| 16:06.32 | znf | yes |
| 16:06.40 | znf | but I get that on my phone, too, so meh |
| 16:07.24 | Gnarfoz | well, that's the server not responding |
| 16:07.36 | znf | yup |
| 16:09.17 | VIad | wonder if I get banned if I close and open my app so often :p lol |
| 16:09.31 | VIad | tbh happens on my phone too. often I need to kill it and restart the game |
| 16:10.05 | VIad | atm my app crashes when I capture the pokemon ^^ yay |
| 16:11.31 | znf | Nox is supposedly better as an emulator |
| 16:11.37 | znf | for Pokemon Go |
| 16:11.39 | znf | but I never tried it |
| 16:11.39 | VIad | mm |
| 16:11.43 | VIad | I can try it |
| 16:12.08 | VIad | "First we will remove anything related to the outdated crappy emulator called Bluestacks and download Nox instead." |
| 16:12.09 | VIad | kek |
| 16:12.24 | VIad | they made nox+pokemongo package even |
| 16:12.25 | Gnarfoz | shit talking 101 |
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| 16:17.09 | Torhal | https://i.redditmedia.com/zWvfGSrQIjkPzX6-PcDojp7sEEBBYhJc5ER1FUvtQRM.jpg?w=432&s=6b0c12cc7a3f7b16a5155c26f7267585 |
| 16:18.39 | VIad | Torhal: Ill climb their fucking roof if I have to |
| 16:19.09 | Torhal | ... |
| 16:19.14 | Torhal | That's a ploy to get people with warrants into the station. |
| 16:19.23 | VIad | lol :p |
| 16:19.30 | Stanzilla | I love when you have to explain jokes |
| 16:19.30 | VIad | having no warrants I neverthought about that |
| 16:19.53 | VIad | I have barely spoken to a police person in my entire life |
| 16:20.09 | Torhal | I guess I've seen too many cop shows, then. |
| 16:20.10 | Torhal | Was obvious :) |
| 16:20.29 | Stanzilla | so you are saying |
| 16:20.31 | Stanzilla | the link that says |
| 16:20.34 | Stanzilla | WANTED PERSONS |
| 16:20.38 | Stanzilla | is not obviousy for anyone elese? |
| 16:20.55 | VIad | oh I didnt read the link |
| 16:20.56 | VIad | just the text |
| 16:21.01 | VIad | since I couldnt click it anyway :p |
| 16:21.09 | Torhal | Obviously not. >.> |
| 16:21.10 | Torhal | ... |
| 16:21.11 | Torhal | I give up. |
| 16:21.12 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.15 | VIad | :D |
| 16:21.23 | VIad | you'd kill yourself for me? so sweet |
| 16:22.23 | Torhal | ... |
| 16:26.33 | znf | the ball hits the pokemon right in the face |
| 16:26.37 | znf | ofc it misses |
| 16:27.24 | VIad | znf: so far nox seems bit more stable and feature complete |
| 16:27.32 | VIad | and less bloat, though only by a bit |
| 16:27.41 | VIad | comes with root on/off option, thats nice |
| 16:27.50 | znf | I tried GenyMotion, but I couldn't get pokemon go to actually run |
| 16:27.53 | znf | crashed on loading screen |
| 16:30.39 | znf | VIad, search facebook for pokemon events, put emulator there |
| 16:30.44 | znf | wait for the event to start |
| 16:30.52 | VIad | nox seems nice |
| 16:30.56 | znf | rake in pokemon from dozens of lures |
| 16:31.04 | VIad | lets you pick resolution, rendering (directx/opengl) |
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| 16:35.10 | Gnarfoz | nice spam: 18:33:58|2|Yvgyvg: WTS WoD CM GOLD 8\8 Achievement. Just visit www.Zug-Zug.win |
| 16:35.21 | Gnarfoz | creative use of new gtlds :D |
| 16:35.40 | znf | I just lost a poliwhirl because the server is acting up :( |
| 16:38.51 | VIad | nox was better znf, comes with map overlay so you wasd to move the map coordinates :p |
| 16:39.00 | VIad | emulates walking quite well |
| 16:39.01 | znf | I read |
| 16:39.12 | znf | too lazy to install it now, though |
| 16:39.17 | znf | this event is up until 9pm :D |
| 16:39.19 | VIad | :p |
| 16:39.28 | znf | damn servers :( |
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| 16:46.47 | VIad | :( |
| 16:50.34 | VIad | blizzards or nintendos? :p |
| 16:50.56 | Gnarfoz | "Nintendo" |
| 16:50.57 | Gnarfoz | right... |
| 16:50.59 | VIad | ;d |
| 16:51.12 | Gnarfoz | they contributed a trademark to this |
| 16:51.19 | VIad | righto |
| 16:54.26 | VIad | some guy used some thing on a point and lured pkmn, caught one of those, since, nothing :d |
| 16:54.36 | VIad | walking around the park outside my house :p |
| 16:54.50 | znf | lures are awesome :P |
| 16:54.57 | znf | only if the servers worked |
| 16:55.01 | VIad | seems so |
| 16:55.34 | VIad | nox seems amazing compared btw, so try it out |
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| 17:18.35 | VIad | I wonder if it is safe for me to delete all my junk after patch next week |
| 17:18.48 | VIad | or if I should double check to see the visuals unlocked before deleting anything... oh man |
| 17:20.25 | jro | for some reason pummel always returns usable wth |
| 17:21.11 | jro | id 6552 |
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| 17:22.49 | VIad | thats the spell id for pummel ,right? |
| 17:24.09 | jro | yea |
| 17:24.36 | jro | local usable, nomana = IsUsableSpell("Pummel") |
| 17:24.37 | jro | print(usable, nomana) |
| 17:24.46 | jro | or using id |
| 17:25.07 | jro | always returns true |
| 17:25.15 | jro | only ability ive had this issue with |
| 17:29.39 | AmiYuy | Vlad - That's one reason we made CanIMogIt? - so you can see on your tooltip. Although double checking doesn't hurt, but it does take awhile. (http://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/can-i-mog-it) |
| 17:29.51 | Semlar | pummel doesn't cost anything does it |
| 17:29.55 | VIad | for legion collection, AmiYuy? |
| 17:30.00 | AmiYuy | Yeah |
| 17:30.07 | VIad | blizzard said some items arent reigstering as collected |
| 17:30.14 | VIad | so I dont want to vendor those that dont :p |
| 17:30.19 | AmiYuy | Where did they say that? |
| 17:30.30 | VIad | during the entire beta, always many issues |
| 17:30.51 | VIad | unsure if I can trust them when the patch comes next week, some items might still not be registering |
| 17:30.55 | AmiYuy | I don't disagree with them, there's some definite funkiness, but we figured at this point it's mostly with the API |
| 17:31.30 | Semlar | jro: pummel has no cost, that function returns whether you have enough energy to use an ability |
| 17:31.33 | VIad | I would be cranky if I vendor stuff next week |
| 17:31.36 | VIad | and then I need to farm them again |
| 17:32.05 | jro | nomana returns true or false if you dont have enough resources but usable returns false if on cd |
| 17:32.30 | Semlar | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsUsableSpell this says it does not account for spell cooldowns |
| 17:32.45 | jro | hm |
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| 17:33.14 | fewyn | foxlit: nice changelog for master plan |
| 17:33.16 | fewyn | useful info |
| 17:33.18 | fewyn | ty |
| 17:33.30 | AmiYuy | 99% of everything seems to register just fine, I've spent tons of time inspecting my character's items for addon testing and it's rare for them to not show up in the window if they should be learned. |
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| 17:35.41 | AmiYuy | They've fixed a lot of items, but I'll probably be searching anything I'm really worried about for a bit to make sure. :) |
| 17:47.47 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/NF25hUs |
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| 18:05.49 | pompy | what about it |
| 18:08.03 | Stanzilla | pompy would buy it |
| 18:17.37 | jro | Anyone know an easy way to find a memory leak? |
| 18:17.47 | Torhal | lol |
| 18:17.50 | jro | ^^ |
| 18:18.17 | Torhal | You did say "easy" so... |
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| 18:25.43 | pompy | Torhal's memory is always leaking |
| 18:31.21 | jro | it gets cleaned by the garbage collector |
| 18:31.29 | jro | just grows steadily in the meantime |
| 18:34.20 | Torhal | If it's doing it on its own, I'd look at any OnUpdates. If it's on an action, you should have a good idea where to look. |
| 18:34.43 | Fisker | I like Torhal |
| 18:34.47 | Torhal | Also if it's doing it on its own, try to nail any event patterns. |
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| 18:43.41 | foxlit | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/opie/tickets/100 << the second time this happened :/ |
| 18:44.20 | foxlit | (people posting PTR errors for previous versions of recently-updated addons, not realizing they aren't using the latest version) |
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| 18:45.15 | Stanzilla | Users |
| 18:45.16 | Stanzilla | ¯_(ã)_/¯ |
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| 18:47.10 | Kraps | thank you foxlit https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/4t99xb/thank_you_foxlit_for_creating_and_supporting/ |
| 18:50.56 | foxlit | "I don't want to rush into things, but maybe, just maybe, it's ready to be called version 1.0 now." <3 |
| 18:51.27 | znf | yes, foxlit is awesome :P |
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| 19:15.39 | schnoggo_ | Good afternoon, Seerah |
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| 19:21.16 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: thank you for Master Plan |
| 19:21.31 | znf | PSA: Incense spawns 1 pokémon every 5 min while standing still and every 1 min/200 meters while moving (i.redd.it) |
| 19:21.32 | znf | nice |
| 19:21.47 | nevcairiel | sounds like everyone decided that Master Plan is dead |
| 19:21.54 | Torhal | DED |
| 19:22.17 | Torhal | It isn't dead; it's 1.0! |
| 19:22.18 | nebula | didn't you know? april fools killed it |
| 19:22.18 | Torhal | >.> |
| 19:22.37 | nevcairiel | to be honest with the low amount of missions and followers, and much less counter categories, I probably wouldnt use it either w ay |
| 19:22.48 | Gnarfoz | it's very undead, but saying thanks is free and... why not :D |
| 19:23.27 | foxlit | Torhal: either that or 0.100 |
| 19:23.43 | Gnarfoz | or do you mean for Legion? it seems unneccessary for Legion... I would probably still use it if it's updated for it, to automate away those 30 seconds of work ;p |
| 19:23.46 | Torhal | Oh, man. |
| 19:24.04 | Gnarfoz | Ingress did that >_> |
| 19:24.18 | Gnarfoz | or well, they're not on 0.x, but you get the idea. |
| 19:24.21 | nevcairiel | i think 0.100 is a logical following |
| 19:24.26 | nevcairiel | 99->100 |
| 19:24.29 | Gnarfoz | of course it is :D |
| 19:24.48 | mckenziemc | decrements nevcairiel's karma by .01. |
| 19:25.01 | mckenziemc | oh sorry, 0,01 |
| 19:25.08 | nevcairiel | i really dont like when people go 0.9 -> 1.0 for the only reason that the version number made them, instead of actually having a milestone there or something |
| 19:25.24 | nebula | that is pretty silly |
| 19:25.55 | mckenziemc | what's a milestone though |
| 19:25.59 | mckenziemc | having plenty of new bugs? |
| 19:26.02 | Gnarfoz | a mile long stone |
| 19:30.16 | foxlit | anyway, it rather specifically avoids messing with order halls for now. |
| 19:31.34 | foxlit | So chances are there will be a few minor versions to kill off any 7.0-related weirdness in garrisons, and then "1.0" will be the end. |
| 19:32.06 | schnoggo | well poop. apparently I requested beta access too late. I assume PTR is down? Nothing like testing live :) |
| 19:32.08 | Stanzilla | so you are making a new one for orderhall missions or cba? |
| 19:32.41 | nevcairiel | schnoggo: i think ptr still works |
| 19:33.09 | nevcairiel | will probably remain online after 7.0 is live as well, just as a place where they can push new patches early for testing |
| 19:33.09 | AmiYuy | PTR is up for me |
| 19:33.47 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: your next addon should count down its version number until it reaches 0 when it's no longer needed. :P |
| 19:33.58 | nevcairiel | careful planing ahead! |
| 19:34.26 | Semlar | i go from version 0.1 to "blueberrytangerine" |
| 19:34.38 | nevcairiel | that sounds like opie versioning |
| 19:34.49 | schnoggo | Is the âPTRL Warlords of Draenorâ 7.0 client? (Thatâs what is in my options) |
| 19:34.58 | nevcairiel | yeah they never switched the text |
| 19:35.15 | Semlar | i think foxlit got stuck trying to find a pie that starts with Q |
| 19:35.20 | schnoggo | excellent. I can actually test then. |
| 19:35.20 | Gnarfoz | well, 7.0 is still officially WoD until Legion is released! :D |
| 19:35.42 | Gnarfoz | (funnily enough, live has been "Legion" for months, if you preordered) |
| 19:36.03 | foxlit | Stanzilla: probably something smaller/different. |
| 19:36.04 | Gnarfoz | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19955661 - Avengerâs Shield: Also increases your attack power by 20% (with Mastery from typical gear). |
| 19:36.14 | Gnarfoz | why... is that not reflected at all in game? :O |
| 19:36.25 | foxlit | We'll see; they still have until August to make the default ui less annoying. |
| 19:36.40 | Gnarfoz | it would explain why I get wildly different buff uptimes on SotR some times... |
| 19:36.46 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: haha, as if! |
| 19:36.51 | schnoggo | Not the most comforting error message: âWoops. Looks like comething broke, Give it another shot.â |
| 19:37.05 | Semlar | you could have gone with quiche foxlit |
| 19:37.06 | foxlit | that's the general trend for all error messages everywhere |
| 19:37.08 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: previes are helplessly outdated |
| 19:37.18 | nevcairiel | previews* |
| 19:37.41 | foxlit | asymptotically, we're heading to "Pray to the computer gods and try again!" |
| 19:37.45 | Gnarfoz | right, that's from November last year |
| 19:40.39 | nevcairiel | presumably one of the CMs was preparing an updated post about classes, hope it gets done soon so i can poke guildies at it for a quick intro |
| 19:45.38 | schnoggo | I am fail. Apparently I still have my addons in svn. |
| 19:50.14 | mckenziemc | D: |
| 19:52.38 | znf | hardly any reason you "need" to be on git |
| 19:52.51 | znf | especially if you're the only one commiting |
| 19:53.18 | mckenziemc | what about mercurial :( |
| 19:53.46 | znf | hghghg |
| 19:54.00 | znf | /s/g/a/g |
| 19:54.25 | znf | really, the bot doesn't do /g ? |
| 19:54.36 | schnoggo | I just use git for all my other work except publishing to WordPress.org, znf. My fingers have forgotten the ways of subversion |
| 19:54.57 | znf | *shrug* |
| 19:55.10 | PhatsoTGT | hey real quick |
| 19:55.24 | PhatsoTGT | how do i get spellID nowadays when provided with a spellname |
| 19:55.26 | mckenziemc | s/mercurial/stabbing znf/g |
| 19:55.33 | Semlar | GetSpellInfo |
| 19:55.39 | schnoggo | exactly, znf :) I think Iâll stick with svn updates for today. |
| 19:56.00 | znf | it will be a pain to switch to git, if you use wowace, anyway |
| 19:56.09 | znf | unless you have very good reasons, just stick to svn :P |
| 19:57.08 | PhatsoTGT | Semlar that doesnt give ID |
| 19:57.29 | schnoggo | looks around⦠where did I put those bug reports? |
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| 19:58.03 | Semlar | pretty sure it does |
| 19:58.21 | Semlar | it's the 7th return |
| 19:58.59 | PhatsoTGT | nope returns nil |
| 19:59.13 | Semlar | what are you using it with |
| 19:59.30 | znf | meh, I'm missing the lure party/event :( |
| 19:59.32 | znf | stupid servers |
| 19:59.33 | PhatsoTGT | "Salvage" |
| 20:00.25 | Semlar | is that a spell your character knows? |
| 20:00.36 | PhatsoTGT | yes |
| 20:00.56 | PhatsoTGT | its the spell that is being cast when opening crates |
| 20:01.05 | Semlar | that is not a spell your character knows |
| 20:01.20 | Semlar | that's a spell associated with that item |
| 20:01.41 | PhatsoTGT | well im doing a weakaura that beeps if i try to salvage with a full inventory |
| 20:02.07 | PhatsoTGT | and weakaura event triggers dont seem to give their arguments to the custom trigger section |
| 20:02.10 | Semlar | why do you need the spell ID, doesn't weak auras let you use spell names |
| 20:02.58 | PhatsoTGT | yeah but to my knowledge theres no means to chain spell channel check and a check for free inventory slots |
| 20:03.12 | PhatsoTGT | that last part needs to be in custom code |
| 20:04.52 | PhatsoTGT | oh hell yeah the is lol |
| 20:05.13 | PhatsoTGT | that airhorn went live full volume in my apartment |
| 20:05.20 | PhatsoTGT | jesus |
| 20:05.47 | PhatsoTGT | they took that file straight from the MLG assets :D |
| 20:05.52 | PhatsoTGT | thanks anyways |
| 20:15.21 | znf | server status http://pgo.wo1f.net/ |
| 20:16.10 | Ressy | it just says loading |
| 20:17.18 | Ressy | Lovely. Doesn't work on Firefox. |
| 20:17.18 | znf | works fine here |
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| 20:29.27 | Semlar | the true pokemon go experience |
| 20:32.51 | mikma | servers don't work here in finland |
| 20:33.15 | mikma | managed to nab pikachu when they worked |
| 20:41.21 | Primer | Does TOC change in pre-patch? |
| 20:41.26 | nebula | yes |
| 20:42.18 | kd3 | they remembered to do it this time? an improvement from warlords |
| 20:42.48 | Primer | Guess I should cut a new version of my addons |
| 20:46.12 | znf | there's also this: http://www.mmoserverstatus.com/pokemon_go |
| 20:52.09 | nevcairiel | kd3: remember what? bumping toc to 7.0? how would they not? :p |
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| 21:02.24 | znf | pokemon go with browser notification https://go.jooas.com/ |
| 21:02.32 | znf | I mean server notifier* |
| 21:07.05 | Primer | What's the strategy for updating addons for Tuesday? I've noticed that all the alpha addons I have still use 60200 as the TOC |
| 21:07.30 | Primer | By updating I mean addon developers updating their addons for consumption |
| 21:07.53 | nevcairiel | If i could make an addon work on both live and 7.0 i kept a live toc entry |
| 21:08.08 | nevcairiel | if its in a branch then i updated the toc already, but not like users are typically going to see those |
| 21:08.21 | nevcairiel | i'll push new releases with an updated toc on tuesday |
| 21:09.37 | Primer | I just have 2 separate clones of my repo, one in line, the other in beta |
| 21:10.01 | nevcairiel | some people prefer to push late monday evening, which is probably fine |
| 21:10.16 | Primer | Will you be flagging that as stable? |
| 21:10.18 | Gnarfoz | why do you even need a strategy |
| 21:10.23 | Primer | or beta or alpha? |
| 21:10.29 | Gnarfoz | release your update in time for US, done |
| 21:10.54 | Primer | Gnarfoz: meh, I usually stumble all over myself when doing shit like this |
| 21:11.11 | nevcairiel | i'll push a full release on tuesday, probably while US is still down |
| 21:11.13 | Gnarfoz | if my suggestion is too complex, I don't know what else to offer |
| 21:11.19 | nevcairiel | EU should be used to not updating addons tuesday before a big patch |
| 21:11.23 | nevcairiel | but if they do, their fault |
| 21:11.24 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 21:11.57 | Cairenn | Stanzilla: EEEK - Followed by <3 <3 <3 |
| 21:12.10 | nevcairiel | in other news, anyone know the formula for armor -> damage reduction off-hand? |
| 21:12.40 | Primer | And the new toc will be 70000? |
| 21:12.44 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:13.03 | Primer | Sorry for the stupid questions, Gnarfoz |
| 21:13.17 | Cairenn | No such thing |
| 21:13.19 | Gnarfoz | they're not stupid, just weird ^^ |
| 21:14.15 | Primer | Well, the last time I did anything with addons was several months ago, and when I do release, I invariably end up releasing 3-4 times because of mistakes |
| 21:14.46 | foxlit | I recommend sticking head in sand, waking up 5 days after the patch, and releasing something if it works then. |
| 21:15.03 | foxlit | also mixing every metaphor, apparently. |
| 21:16.35 | Cairenn | Actually, I take that back. There are stupid questions. Most often employed by reporters after a tragedy: "You just survived a horrendous event, but everyone that you love didn't - how do you feel?" |
| 21:17.13 | Cairenn | (That always pisses me off) |
| 21:17.41 | fewyn | i wonder how broken my ui would be if i just copied it to legion beta and tried to login |
| 21:17.46 | Ressy | Ugh. |
| 21:17.53 | Primer | fewyn: very |
| 21:17.57 | Primer | I did that :) |
| 21:18.32 | fewyn | but then i could try to update them with alpha versions |
| 21:18.36 | fewyn | so things won't be broken on tuesday |
| 21:18.51 | Primer | I did that too. Many were still broken |
| 21:18.55 | Ressy | I've had a reporter come up to me while I was walking into a church for a funeral.. Stepped right in front of me to make me stop walking and try to go around them. Asking me which person I knew, and what happend, how I feel, etc. Just disgusting. |
| 21:19.10 | Primer | It looks like I'll be moving from Dominos to Bartender4 because of that |
| 21:19.18 | Cairenn | nods at Ressy |
| 21:19.22 | nevcairiel | there should be a law allowing to punch reporters in the face |
| 21:19.23 | fewyn | i've been using bt4 for years |
| 21:19.27 | Ressy | damn right |
| 21:19.28 | fewyn | after dominos broke for awhile |
| 21:19.32 | Ressy | but cops not allowed to. |
| 21:20.10 | nevcairiel | i havent seen Tuller around for a while, did he not update dominos? |
| 21:20.52 | Kraps | ive always used dominos |
| 21:20.52 | foxlit | I've been happily using the default 1-= bar of framexml. |
| 21:20.55 | nebula | jaliborc took over most of tuller's stuff |
| 21:20.56 | nevcairiel | well for one bar its fine, if you need any more they get cumbersome |
| 21:21.25 | nevcairiel | nebula: unfortunately he is not quite inspiring me with confidence, i think the only of tullers things i still use is omnicc |
| 21:21.35 | foxlit | combat rotation fits on like half a bar; for everything else, there's pie. |
| 21:21.36 | nevcairiel | i basically wrote a replacement for combuctor |
| 21:21.43 | nebula | which he tends to break periodically some how |
| 21:22.28 | znf | can confirm, even my crappy guildies knew not to update addons on a tuesday before a big EU patch |
| 21:22.29 | nevcairiel | i thought about writing a CC addon, but when I started i got distracted and gave up |
| 21:23.40 | nevcairiel | there is a few updates for dominos on his github from a couple days ago, maybe he'll release something in time |
| 21:23.54 | Stanzilla | updates are on wowi |
| 21:24.06 | Stanzilla | for dominos |
| 21:24.49 | Tuller | yes, they are |
| 21:25.00 | Stanzilla | look at that |
| 21:25.32 | znf | Tuller lives |
| 21:25.49 | znf | Woah. |
| 21:25.52 | znf | Pokemon works |
| 21:26.20 | Ressy | yup. |
| 21:26.31 | Stanzilla | Tuller: you need to take bagnon back .< |
| 21:26.34 | Ressy | I just caught a Koffing |
| 21:26.35 | Stanzilla | jaliborc is ruining everything! |
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| 21:26.50 | znf | adibags is superior anyway |
| 21:26.55 | Tuller_ | and then i duddenly disconnected somehow :P |
| 21:26.59 | nevcairiel | i dislike smart bags |
| 21:27.07 | nevcairiel | i'm smart enough to sort my own bag, tyvm |
| 21:27.14 | znf | I'm too lazy to do that |
| 21:28.39 | Tuller_ | adibags always amuses me because it looks like vbagnon |
| 21:29.31 | nevcairiel | and my inventorian looks like combuctor, because I liked the look! it just broke too much for my taste |
| 21:30.12 | Gnarfoz | I only wish Inventorian had a "look like bagnon" mode, or at least Masquerade support ^^ |
| 21:30.28 | nevcairiel | why do you like the bland untextured look so much |
| 21:30.48 | AmiYuy | I love my cargBags Nivaya, but it might finally be dying :( |
| 21:31.11 | nevcairiel | anyway Masque makes no sense, unless you want the individual item buttons to actually change :d |
| 21:31.11 | Gnarfoz | I dislike Blizzard's "take up space for nothing" look, and I'm not into znf amounts of flat look |
| 21:31.26 | Gnarfoz | yes, that's what masque would be used for :) |
| 21:31.39 | nebula | o.O |
| 21:31.46 | nevcairiel | why do you want the item icons in the inventory icon to change |
| 21:31.53 | nevcairiel | what would you make them look like? |
| 21:32.10 | znf | rounded corners, I guess? |
| 21:33.14 | PhatsoTGT | btw die they change something with tooltip redraws? it seems like OnTooltipSetItem is being called constantly instead of just once for each item you hover over? |
| 21:33.18 | PhatsoTGT | did* |
| 21:34.04 | PhatsoTGT | could be a change from the last 40 days. was deep into my shifts the last month |
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| 21:41.32 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: https://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/mop/storage.png |
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| 21:42.09 | nevcairiel | i suppose i could just hook them up for masque if someone wanted that |
| 21:42.18 | znf | so much gear to destroy!!!\ |
| 21:42.53 | diesal | yuck i hate the look of wows default ui frames, thats just my opinion of course |
| 21:46.44 | Tuller | for larger windows they're fine |
| 21:47.03 | diesal | i like arkinventory but i loathe addons that use scale to change the size their frames, i use arkinventory at the moment with a hacked skin to fit in with my UI Styling libraries the inv slots are sized to 28x 28 pixels no scaling |
| 21:48.47 | diesal | luckily i can still get 1:1 pixel ratio on 3440x1330p by scaling the ui parent to .53333 |
| 21:48.51 | diesal | 1440* |
| 21:49.19 | nevcairiel | that makes everything tiny though, and requires you to manually scale all sorts of individual elements back up |
| 21:49.26 | diesal | no it dosnt |
| 21:49.36 | diesal | as i use a scaling method that hooks everything |
| 21:49.43 | diesal | works perfectly with anything i throw at it |
| 21:50.27 | diesal | well i didnt write it i mean i hook into the one ElvUi is using and just jimmy the code a little |
| 21:51.03 | nevcairiel | well that is manually scaling it back up, even if it uses some code to avoid doing it really manually per frame :p |
| 21:51.15 | diesal | true |
| 21:51.25 | diesal | but its seemless once in place |
| 21:52.12 | nevcairiel | having OCD must be terrible |
| 21:52.37 | diesal | sometimes, i spend way longer on design implemtastion than id like alot of the times |
| 21:53.06 | diesal | implementation* |
| 21:53.25 | foxlit | a lot* |
| 21:54.11 | nevcairiel | foxlit: http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/5025882+_fff5ab1d9cad77f97ced41e9c40d99c1.jpg |
| 21:54.12 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.30 | diesal | thats why i just tooka look design cues from AceGUI and built my own theming/ widget library |
| 21:54.34 | foxlit | nevcairiel: oh, you found the times one! Google images failed me there :( |
| 21:55.02 | diesal | i can prototype UI's in afew seconds to look eaxaclty how i want with a css like theming structure |
| 21:56.25 | diesal | yeah im still high on a custom pre work out eca stack, bit jittery still |
| 21:57.13 | Gnarfoz | I know some of those words |
| 21:57.54 | Aiue | I know some words. |
| 21:58.45 | diesal | high on caffeinie* :[ |
| 21:58.47 | diesal | ;p |
| 21:59.00 | fewyn | so where's the best place/way to find addons already updated for legion these days? |
| 21:59.24 | nevcairiel | ephedrine, the e in eca, is illegal or at least a prescription drug in most civilized countries, but whatever drugs float your boat, i guess :p |
| 21:59.55 | diesal | yeah thast why i sid custom its banned by the fda in australia because idiots dont know how to atke thing in moderation |
| 22:00.02 | diesal | said* |
| 22:00.50 | nevcairiel | using drugs recreationally to "work out" seems like bad approach in any case |
| 22:01.42 | diesal | everyohne has their own opinion and their entitled to it, i dont do anything i dont reserach first and consult a dcotor on |
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| 22:04.09 | Tuller | ham |
| 22:04.23 | Cairenn | I like ham |
| 22:04.28 | nevcairiel | bacon |
| 22:04.35 | Cairenn | I like bacon |
| 22:04.57 | diesal | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.09 | Cairenn | I like chicken |
| 22:05.47 | Tuller | i'm maybe 50/50 on bacon |
| 22:05.55 | Cairenn | <== meatetarian |
| 22:06.02 | fewyn | i'm a carnavore |
| 22:06.03 | diesal | lol |
| 22:06.07 | fewyn | veggies are nasty things |
| 22:06.10 | fewyn | give me meat |
| 22:06.12 | fewyn | MEAAAAAAT |
| 22:06.15 | diesal | they are but full of fibre |
| 22:06.22 | Cairenn | Meat is food. Veggies are what food eats. |
| 22:06.24 | fewyn | (i'm making meatball sliders) |
| 22:06.30 | Tuller | that just means you never had them prepared well :P |
| 22:07.10 | diesal | by that tuller do you mean saturated in gravy / cheese sauce |
| 22:07.59 | fewyn | yep mapster completely broke my ui |
| 22:08.04 | mikma | I love lamp |
| 22:08.42 | Tuller | roasted is my preferred choice |
| 22:09.17 | Gnarfoz | speaking of roasted |
| 22:09.20 | Gnarfoz | http://breaking911.com/three-kids-dumped-in-scorching-desert-without-shoes-as-punishment/ how nice of them |
| 22:11.24 | Cairenn | >< |
| 22:11.30 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: the article is contradicting itself, "left by themselves" - "the children were in sight of the adults" |
| 22:13.16 | Gnarfoz | 200m away is too far to pay attention to them but you can still see them |
| 22:13.26 | Gnarfoz | anyway, it'd be terrible even if they were right next to them :p |
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| 22:15.13 | nevcairiel | the website just seems rather click-baity, is all |
| 22:28.19 | Gnarfoz | definitely |
| 22:28.37 | fewyn | [18:28:04] There are too many errors in your UI. As a result, your game experience may be degraded. Disable or update the failing addons if you don't want to see this message again. |
| 22:28.42 | fewyn | thanks blizzard |
| 22:29.11 | foxlit | is that 'don't want to see' phrasing real? |
| 22:29.24 | Simca | pretty sure |
| 22:29.26 | fewyn | yes |
| 22:29.29 | fewyn | that's the exact wording |
| 22:29.33 | fewyn | it was a copy paste from chat |
| 22:30.24 | Gnarfoz | seems pretty straight-forward? "wanna get rid of this? fix your shit" |
| 22:33.18 | fewyn | http://i.imgur.com/6o4WHmr.png this looks like it'll be fun |
| 22:34.02 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: it's rather antagonistic, which isn't typically blizzard. |
| 22:34.32 | foxlit | compare TOO_MANY_LUA_ERRORS = "Your AddOns are experiencing a large number of errors and may be slowing down the game. You can turn on display of Lua errors in the interface options." |
| 22:35.43 | foxlit | ... it's BugGrabber. |
| 22:36.00 | fewyn | oh |
| 22:36.03 | fewyn | lol |
| 22:38.57 | foxlit | (also "if" is weird) |
| 22:39.05 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: that message is not helpful to the average user, though. turning on the error display is just going to annoy them even more :P |
| 22:40.17 | foxlit | (as is "too many errors in your UI") |
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| 22:45.16 | fewyn | http://i.imgur.com/3AUEoWo.jpg |
| 22:45.17 | fewyn | hrm |
| 22:45.21 | fewyn | kinda looks like my ui |
| 22:51.15 | fewyn | hrm i can get it down to a barebones ui i'm just missing SUF and TSM |
| 22:52.20 | FireSiku | Oh hey. That's my ui. |
| 22:52.29 | fewyn | oh hey FireSiku |
| 22:52.31 | fewyn | i love lui |
| 22:52.35 | fewyn | <3 |
| 22:52.44 | FireSiku | I still have so much shit to do though :( |
| 22:52.44 | fewyn | v4 seems to workish on legion |
| 22:52.49 | fewyn | while 3 is kinda LOL |
| 22:53.15 | FireSiku | yeah, working on fixing 3 for the pre-patch, and work some more on 4. |
| 22:53.37 | fewyn | i'm super happy that v4 has the new clean up button |
| 22:54.10 | fewyn | on the bags |
| 22:54.23 | FireSiku | Yeah, sadly behavior is...weird because its not the default bags. |
| 22:54.49 | fewyn | yeah i noticed it did this http://i.imgur.com/kUu2JSf.png |
| 22:55.43 | fewyn | i really love the look and feel of lui so keep up the good work man |
| 22:57.03 | fewyn | is it just me or is there a lot of settings that disappeared in legion under UI? |
| 22:57.30 | foxlit | intended from blizzard's side. |
| 22:57.39 | fewyn | ok so i am not going crazy |
| 22:58.26 | Infus | fewyn: http://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/advancedinterfaceoptions |
| 22:58.41 | fewyn | ohai |
| 22:58.50 | fewyn | thanks |
| 23:00.01 | fewyn | well most of my UI actually works as long as i replace lui v3 with v4 and disable a bunch of non-core addons i don't really need at this point in the game |
| 23:00.19 | fewyn | pretty happy about that |
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