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| 00:45.45 | Neffi | sprays Torhal with gold paint so people will think he contains loot. |
| 00:46.06 | Torhal | sprays Neffi with pepper spray so people will think he's a banshee. |
| 00:46.34 | Neffi | this doesn't taste like pepper at all |
| 00:46.38 | Torhal | ... |
| 00:47.14 | Neffi | I'm still on the way home from work :/ |
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| 00:47.55 | Torhal | I blame Semlar. |
| 00:48.05 | Semlar | o.o |
| 00:48.07 | Neffi | definitely his fault |
| 00:48.25 | Seerah | what are we blaming Semlar for? |
| 00:48.42 | Semlar | D: |
| 00:48.42 | Neffi | the world's problems |
| 00:49.00 | Seerah | all of them? |
| 00:49.16 | Neffi | most of them |
| 00:49.23 | Seerah | good enough |
| 01:08.20 | znf | why do people leave dungeon groups so fast |
| 01:08.24 | znf | maybe I had an item to give away :-/ |
| 01:16.09 | Seerah | anti-social |
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| 01:58.50 | relaxok | wowpedia > wowwiki right? |
| 02:00.24 | Torhal | Yes |
| 02:12.59 | mckenziemc | Torhal << Semlar |
| 02:18.28 | Torhal | I don't support bitwise operations, mckenziemc. |
| 02:18.29 | Torhal | Fail. |
| 02:21.43 | relaxok | savage |
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| 02:56.15 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: why did i just build a 0.1 build on a tank, so i wouldnt have to redrip every other hit |
| 02:56.36 | Torhal | lolwut |
| 02:56.54 | Torhal | What tank? |
| 02:57.14 | Arrowmaster | 0.1 dual parallel fused 28x2/40 claptons on avacado 24mm tank |
| 02:57.28 | Torhal | Jeebus |
| 02:58.33 | Arrowmaster | just tried it, vapes nice |
| 03:02.09 | Arrowmaster | also got some of this to try another day https://www.advancedvapesupply.com/collections/spooled-ss-prebuilt-wire/products/copy-of-up-to-30-feet-of-316l-ss-flat-clapton-wire |
| 03:04.55 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: avacado 24 is a very nice tank |
| 03:05.26 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: It isn't a genny is it? |
| 03:05.28 | Neffi | I have no idea wtf you just said, but I heard avocado, so its probably delicious |
| 03:05.34 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 03:05.55 | Torhal | :/ |
| 03:06.28 | Arrowmaster | dont like gennys? |
| 03:07.24 | Torhal | I've never considered using one because of their apparent propensity to leak if you accidentally tip them, plus the whole wick fighting gravity thing. |
| 03:07.47 | Arrowmaster | this thing never leaks on me |
| 03:08.25 | Torhal | Hmm |
| 03:08.41 | Arrowmaster | i tip it all the time to give a little assist on the wicking |
| 03:09.26 | Arrowmaster | i dont put the wick all the way to the bottom, just about 1/4 the way in |
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| 05:34.38 | relaxok | i really used to enjoy AG Unit Frames.. can xperl/something else be made to look like that? the screenshots im seeing of it are pretty oogly |
| 05:34.39 | Torhal | attacks Fisker with a breakfast cereal. |
| 05:51.35 | relaxok | suf is fine |
| 06:20.21 | Fisker | hughugs Cairenn |
| 06:20.28 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 09:15.50 | VIad | Semlar: I dislike the item scaling that we have no control over |
| 09:16.19 | VIad | I wish if it scaled that it was embeded in the itemstring, not just guess based on who inspects the link. |
| 09:23.33 | Semlar | well i wrote a function to turn an item link into a timewarped item with a specific level but the guy who was asking about it left irc |
| 09:28.42 | VIad | oh |
| 09:29.11 | VIad | I thought it scaled when linked. like how heirlooms work, only that heirlooms have a level field, while some scaling items don't |
| 09:32.44 | VIad | Semlar: after I upgraded my NUC to windows 10 I experience a weird thing where I can't access the webserver even from within the LAN |
| 09:33.14 | VIad | it's really weird, as it means the connection isn't being established on the machine itself, but I tried disabling firewall and still no luck |
| 09:36.44 | VIad | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 09:37.04 | Semlar | what's a nuc |
| 09:37.18 | VIad | http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/overview.html |
| 09:37.35 | Semlar | you can plug into it? |
| 09:37.50 | Kalroth | plug into it ..? |
| 09:37.53 | VIad | sexually? |
| 09:37.58 | Kalroth | i don't even |
| 09:38.01 | Semlar | ..with a monitor and a keyboard and a mouse |
| 09:38.06 | Semlar | instead of the lan |
| 09:38.12 | Kalroth | it's a PC |
| 09:38.13 | VIad | ah yes of course |
| 09:38.14 | nevcairiel | its a tiny PC |
| 09:38.15 | Semlar | i don't even know what he's asking |
| 09:38.19 | VIad | ah no |
| 09:38.23 | Semlar | he just said it was a network machine that he couldn't connect to |
| 09:38.33 | Semlar | i assume it was headless |
| 09:38.35 | VIad | upgraded to w10 from w7, my apache server stopped accepting connections |
| 09:38.55 | Semlar | so open apache? |
| 09:38.58 | VIad | still tracking down why its not accepting external connections, must be a pc thing since it also doesn't allow LAN connections |
| 09:39.09 | Semlar | you can open it on localhost? |
| 09:39.10 | Kalroth | firewall? |
| 09:39.10 | VIad | it works fine locally on the pc itself, and I tried firewall but no luck |
| 09:39.22 | VIad | I am connecting to it using RD |
| 09:39.24 | Semlar | the machine can access the internet? |
| 09:39.27 | VIad | yes |
| 09:39.36 | Kalroth | what address is the apache server configured to use? 127.0.0.1 or 0.0.0.0? |
| 09:39.48 | Semlar | you're sure you aren't blocking ports? |
| 09:39.59 | Kalroth | or maybe even ipv6? |
| 09:40.05 | VIad | I am currently debugging it, I simply disabled the firewall and tested |
| 09:40.17 | Kalroth | windows 10 doesn't always allocate an ipv4 address anymore, check with ipconfig |
| 09:40.36 | VIad | Ill just disable the v6 :p |
| 09:40.37 | Kalroth | or make sure you access it by the hostname |
| 09:40.39 | VIad | dont need it anyway |
| 09:41.08 | VIad | I guess win10 upgrade doesn't leave my configurations just the way I had them previously :p |
| 09:41.11 | Semlar | did you try disabling world wide web services |
| 09:41.27 | VIad | yeah I had to. at first apache couldnt even use the ports because of that sucker. |
| 09:41.28 | Stanzilla | did you try turning it off and on again? |
| 09:41.34 | Kalroth | revert to windows 7 imo |
| 09:41.41 | Semlar | yeah have you considered using a real operating system |
| 09:42.53 | VIad | well this is weird. I guess just turning the firewall off wasn't enough. I had to restart the machine as well and now it worked. |
| 09:43.13 | VIad | first time I experience having to reboot for firewall change to take effect |
| 09:43.14 | Stanzilla | see |
| 09:43.15 | Stanzilla | I was right |
| 09:43.38 | Semlar | i can't believe he didn't try turning it off and on again |
| 09:43.50 | VIad | I did, just not with the firewall disabled :p |
| 09:44.11 | VIad | but it's behaving irrationally. you shouldn't need to reboot when changing firewall settings. |
| 09:47.34 | VIad | oh well thanks for input anyway :d |
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| 11:01.21 | znf | Hmm, actually I don't really enjoy the artifact weapon much |
| 11:01.45 | znf | Now that I have to spend 3 points into a few percent damage increase to get to the fun part... it just feels like the old talent tree |
| 11:02.16 | znf | it also makes for a shitty task: collect enough AP for your class/spec to perform as it should. |
| 11:02.33 | znf | The classes seem to be balanced around getting all points/traits. |
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| 11:07.28 | SinusPi | Hallelujah, finally on a shell. |
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| 11:23.22 | VIad | znf: I think its just supposed to be this slowly improving thing, sadly yes its just the old talent tree and annoying that you can't really go for the good stuff as quickly as you might want to :p |
| 11:23.48 | VIad | at least we have two choices - go for talent A or talent B that actually do something actively to your abilities, and not just passive % buffs |
| 11:30.50 | znf | not much of a choice |
| 11:31.06 | VIad | you can pick between two paths usually |
| 11:31.16 | VIad | that lead to two different abilities/good passives |
| 11:31.26 | VIad | thats the only choice I guess :p |
| 11:32.18 | znf | I want to get Call of the Void |
| 11:32.31 | znf | but to do that, I have to go past "10% increased shadowmend healing" |
| 11:33.16 | VIad | yes |
| 11:33.25 | znf | actually, 30%, because I have to put 3 points in it... |
| 11:33.26 | VIad | you'll spend a month doing stuff to get enough power to get that |
| 11:33.35 | VIad | and 3 more months to get the other one |
| 11:33.39 | VIad | and half year for the last one :d |
| 11:33.55 | VIad | its made to drag out and slowly improve you |
| 11:34.45 | znf | until a patch does something |
| 11:35.03 | znf | and suddenly a specific trait is more powerful than the one you have selected |
| 11:35.17 | Tentacled | Such is life. |
| 11:35.18 | znf | so now it's a must for raiding :P |
| 11:35.42 | VIad | I am not thinking about it as a big deal |
| 11:35.53 | VIad | it will just passively be there and improving as you do your other business |
| 11:36.55 | VIad | nevcairiel: http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/eu/Vlad-2876 |
| 11:37.03 | znf | I'm worried that "Call of the Void" will be somehow more powerful than what I picked, "Mass Hysteria" |
| 11:37.12 | znf | in a certain minor patch |
| 11:37.25 | VIad | we hope blizz wont redo balance like that |
| 11:37.30 | VIad | without a refund :p |
| 11:37.34 | znf | and Mass Hysteria really seems a must-have pick now |
| 11:37.37 | nevcairiel | znf: so work on getting all of them |
| 11:38.00 | znf | nevcairiel, you will eventually get all of them, but what about those first few week of raiding? :P |
| 11:38.13 | nevcairiel | stop cairing about those |
| 11:38.18 | VIad | hopefully no major balancing patches the first weeks :p |
| 11:38.20 | nevcairiel | and just unlock more |
| 11:38.23 | VIad | dont worry just enjoy the game |
| 11:39.05 | nevcairiel | you should be able to unlock two majors by the time raiding opens if you play decently |
| 11:39.11 | VIad | ah right |
| 11:39.16 | VIad | I guess first raid dont open until a month |
| 11:39.23 | VIad | to avoid the rush leveling from raiders |
| 11:40.54 | znf | are they doing non-tier first? |
| 11:43.02 | VIad | no clue |
| 11:43.20 | VIad | Ill take it as it comes, havent research in advance. :p |
| 11:52.33 | VIad | there is a guy ranked 25 skill rating - thats the lowerst in existance |
| 11:52.41 | VIad | I wonder how I can look up his profile :p |
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| 12:00.08 | tz | aussie democracy tacos tomorrow |
| 12:00.49 | Semlar | foxlit, you know how computers work, why doesn't this table at R8 contain a reference to itself http://hastebin.com/uwiwoqavax.avrasm |
| 12:01.37 | VIad | tz: what does that mean? is tacos slang for something deadly? |
| 12:02.02 | tz | nope |
| 12:02.07 | tz | we have to vote tomorrow |
| 12:02.21 | VIad | to leave EU or not? |
| 12:02.21 | tz | they do sausages on bread with sauce practically every voting place |
| 12:02.26 | tz | nah .au |
| 12:02.33 | VIad | :d |
| 12:02.46 | tz | and onions |
| 12:02.48 | tz | gotta have onions |
| 12:03.12 | VIad | onions are the best |
| 12:03.17 | tz | in fact, there's this: http://www.electionsausagesizzle.com.au/ |
| 12:03.56 | tz | (it's not a joke, we take this shit seriously) |
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| 12:04.09 | tz | shame we don't take the politicians seriously |
| 12:04.11 | tz | oh well |
| 12:04.25 | Kalroth | can you get roo sizzles? |
| 12:04.38 | VIad | fo shizzle? |
| 12:04.44 | tz | those you gotta cook yourself :( |
| 12:04.52 | tz | might get some tomorrow actually, been a while since I had kangaroo |
| 12:06.30 | Kalroth | what does it taste like? chicken or turkey? |
| 12:06.46 | tz | gamey, kinda like a really lean beef |
| 12:06.52 | tz | bit stronger |
| 12:07.13 | tz | some people say it's like venison, but I've never had it so I can't compare |
| 12:07.57 | Kalroth | i bet, both got strong muscles |
| 12:17.59 | Ketho | that one sausage sizzle in the netherlands at the embassy :p |
| 12:18.13 | Ketho | http://www.electionsausagesizzle.com.au/2016-federal-election-sausage-sizzle-map/ |
| 12:18.35 | tz | my grandma would've driven up from Haarlem :P |
| 12:33.11 | foxlit | Semlar: insufficient context for a meaningful answer. |
| 12:33.18 | foxlit | Also 1 <= i <= 0 is an empty range. |
| 12:34.24 | Semlar | it's disassembled LUAC, http://luaforge.net/docman/83/98/ANoFrillsIntroToLua51VMInstructions.pdf this is the documentation i've been using |
| 12:35.23 | Semlar | right now i'm just kind of assuming SETLIST ignores the register that the table is being stored in |
| 12:36.10 | Semlar | if b is 0 it stores everything up to the top of the stack |
| 12:36.52 | foxlit | so R8 = {WeakResource()} |
| 12:37.20 | Semlar | i'm assuming it looks like {20, 1000, 1000, 5, 0.25, 3, 100, 1.5, WeakResource()} |
| 12:37.35 | Semlar | or at least that's the only thing that makes any sense to me |
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| 12:40.53 | Semlar | ah it does say a + 1 to the top of the stack |
| 12:40.54 | foxlit | that does not seem reconcilable with the comments. |
| 12:41.12 | foxlit | [re: or at least...] |
| 12:43.14 | Semlar | so i guess it is just storing the result of the function in a table |
| 12:43.36 | foxlit | yes. 0-7 do not appear to be used by your segment. |
| 12:44.26 | foxlit | also https://www.lua.org/source/5.1/lopcodes.h.html is very readable (+notes section just below op list) |
| 12:44.36 | Semlar | immediately after this it appears to overwrite the register with a new value |
| 12:45.12 | foxlit | setglobal is a thing. |
| 12:46.00 | Semlar | oh it stores it as the global |
| 12:46.27 | Semlar | but then it does R8 := Type() |
| 12:46.41 | foxlit | xkcd is slacking on updates:/ |
| 12:48.18 | Semlar | alright this makes more sense now |
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| 13:12.31 | Tentacled | Sooo I'm digging into the new "limited" GetItemInfo caching. And I made a GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED(id) handler, of the form: print("GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED",id,GetItemInfo(id)) assuming that would be the only time when a result is guaranteed. And no, I still get nils there... |
| 13:13.57 | foxlit | does GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED even have an id argument? |
| 13:14.08 | Tentacled | Yes it does, the item ID. |
| 13:14.48 | foxlit | hurray for out-of-date docs. |
| 13:15.14 | foxlit | (it's not even new to the beta) |
| 13:18.48 | Semlar | seems to work fine for me |
| 13:19.01 | Semlar | maybe you just have your arguments out of order |
| 13:19.29 | foxlit | you probablay don't send a quintillion queries at once? |
| 13:19.31 | Tentacled | It USUALLY works. It just kinks out sometimes. |
| 13:19.51 | Semlar | how many requests are you making |
| 13:20.09 | Tentacled | A lot... :> |
| 13:20.13 | Semlar | why |
| 13:20.31 | Tentacled | "best equipment for your toon" scoring. |
| 13:20.56 | Semlar | you could pretty much permanently cache the results in a saved variable |
| 13:21.43 | Semlar | so you'd only really ever have to do it once if you need to do it |
| 13:22.38 | nevcairiel | dont we have websites for such item scores |
| 13:22.53 | nevcairiel | most addons that does this just account for the items you actually have |
| 13:23.02 | nevcairiel | which limits the number of things you need to query |
| 13:23.17 | Semlar | also GetItemInfoInstant doesn't require the item to be cached if it has the information you want |
| 13:25.17 | Tentacled | No it doesn't, sadly. |
| 13:25.23 | nevcairiel | you can always query the items in smaller batches otherwise, clearly doing mass lookups is not going to work |
| 13:25.40 | Tentacled | Hmm. I built a different test case and WoW crashed. </3 |
| 13:25.44 | Semlar | what is it that you need from GetItemInfo |
| 13:26.08 | Tentacled | The link, for example. |
| 13:26.18 | Semlar | the link is just 'item:itemID' |
| 13:26.31 | Tentacled | Is it now? |
| 13:26.45 | Tentacled | A localized item name is in there, last time I checked. :P |
| 13:26.52 | nevcairiel | real item links contain more info, but if you just query it from a given item id anyway, that info would be empty |
| 13:26.54 | Semlar | you didn't say you wanted the name |
| 13:27.10 | Tentacled | I said I wanted the link, end to end. :) |
| 13:28.03 | Semlar | seems like you'd only need the link when you're actually accessing that item rather than every item in the game |
| 13:28.09 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.35 | Semlar | tries to calm foxlit down |
| 13:32.26 | foxlit | hm, I wonder why it mangles cdata there. |
| 13:32.38 | Tentacled | Actually, I take that back - I changed some calls around and G_I_I_R now correctly has data available when it fires, even with 20000 items in a batch. |
| 13:32.57 | Tentacled | Although it freezes WoW for a horribly long time. |
| 13:35.42 | Semlar | for some reason the transmog functions return the names of most uncached items instantly |
| 13:44.42 | foxlit | okay, no more cdata, just patently broken html markup |
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| 13:54.19 | foxlit | ... and some of those lines are still wrong. Dammit, drawing stuff is hard. |
| 13:55.19 | mitch0 | foxlit: what the hell is that? |
| 13:57.06 | nevcairiel | looks like he disassembled some app and graphed out control flow |
| 13:57.19 | nevcairiel | for whatever reason |
| 14:00.54 | foxlit | yeah, I wanted to find the common ancestor of a few of those things. |
| 14:04.34 | foxlit | unfortunately, it seems to end up as a larger version of http://i88.servimg.com/u/f88/13/98/91/90/simple11.jpg |
| 14:04.54 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 14:07.05 | foxlit | there, think I fixed the lines |
| 14:12.30 | mitch0 | foxlit: use dot (graphwiz) |
| 14:12.37 | foxlit | it choked. |
| 14:12.41 | mitch0 | eh ;) |
| 14:12.52 | foxlit | something about not liking 60k nodes and 120k edges. |
| 14:13.02 | mitch0 | remove the john fucking madden part then ;) |
| 14:14.16 | foxlit | but how do I know which part that is? :) |
| 14:18.14 | karl_w_w | I guess that's a good sign that my headphones are pretty comfortable |
| 14:18.29 | karl_w_w | I reach to pick them up and put them on, and they were already on my head |
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| 15:24.13 | VIad | I killed archimonde in hyjal for the mmochamp beta key giveaway, but they don't register my kills. I am on the legion beta. halp. :( |
| 15:31.47 | VIad | ^ joke |
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| 16:56.55 | VIad | I am a murderer :'( |
| 16:57.22 | VIad | saw a tiny dark dot on my screen. swiped the dirt away. tiny insect ingots on the screen. :( |
| 17:07.01 | mckenziemc | the ant that i crushed while merely trying to see if it was on the surface of my monitor is still stuck between layers at the bottom of this screen, VIad |
| 17:07.30 | VIad | :< |
| 17:07.33 | VIad | poor ant |
| 17:07.57 | VIad | his corpse is what holds your screen together, I guess he has a purpose now |
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| 17:14.40 | Munk | I'm curious about the changes to tab-targeting. In a scenario where you are faced with two units and you're currently targeting one of them, it seems if you hold tab for a bit when attempting to tab to the next unit, it'll highlight your old target and revert on release. Intended? |
| 17:15.07 | Munk | Quickly tapping the tab button doesn't have the same effect. |
| 17:18.24 | VIad | Munk: I noticed I tabbed to a npc not in combat when I was in a dungeon |
| 17:18.41 | VIad | oh I havent notriced that behavior |
| 17:27.39 | VIad | million dollar idea for us that like it clean: windows 10 menu has live tiles, so we need a tile to show desktop files so we can just use the start menu to show those - and then we just hide the desktop icons to keep it clean :d |
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| 17:34.06 | Unkle | Station |
| 17:34.50 | Fisker | Hey Unkle |
| 17:37.20 | Unkle | hey |
| 17:40.09 | Fisker | Hi |
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| 18:14.53 | mckenziemc | stores VIad inside a compressed folder. |
| 18:28.44 | VIad | attempts to uncompress mckenziemc. The results are horrific. |
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| 19:40.35 | VIad | cod infinite warfare at 480k likes and 3000k dislikes atm :d |
| 19:41.13 | nevcairiel | and the 3000k still going to buy it |
| 19:41.24 | VIad | its #2 most disliked video on youtube atm |
| 19:41.26 | VIad | so it holds that record |
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| 19:41.36 | VIad | just above it's friday, and below some justin bieber song :p |
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| 19:42.56 | VIad | tbh it looked like slightly improved engine and such but overall looks like MW3 and the last games by infinity ward. and a lot of recycled assets and animations. |
| 19:43.34 | VIad | we'll see how battlefield looks, if it will use a newer engine or same as last one + brushing up, like what infinity ward did |
| 19:45.02 | VIad | tbh the only reason for me atm to buy it is for the remastered MW1/2 games :p |
| 19:45.05 | VIad | because I loved those |
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| 19:50.18 | VIad | I wonder what activision is thinking after all the negativity though. it ought to affect it somehow. |
| 19:50.29 | VIad | like what thoughts go in their heads :p they must be a bit worried. |
| 19:52.23 | Torhal | Unkle: Did you get my memo? |
| 19:53.43 | VIad | karl_w_w: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaDgYhuaQas |
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| 19:57.16 | zenzelezz | spilling rum feels like such a waste of money in Norway |
| 19:57.34 | VIad | is it cheap rum or the deluxe 2000,- kind? |
| 19:57.43 | VIad | or is rum liquid gold to your tastebuds? |
| 19:57.54 | zenzelezz | in-between I guess. Regular Captain Morgan |
| 19:58.00 | VIad | :d |
| 19:58.23 | Torhal | Unkle: In case you didn't, Arrowmaster was looking for you. |
| 19:58.28 | zenzelezz | now don't you go and call my friend cheap VIad |
| 19:58.50 | zenzelezz | besides, in Norway no alcohol is cheap |
| 19:59.12 | Primer | Anyone know what the MoP rep star toggle things in the reputation tabs do nowadays, if anything? |
| 19:59.17 | VIad | wine is like <100 if you arent picky :d |
| 19:59.44 | zenzelezz | I've never liked wine |
| 19:59.47 | Cairenn | Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canucks! |
| 19:59.59 | zenzelezz | speaking of rum, hey Cairenn |
| 20:00.06 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:00.24 | Primer | The tooltip implies it gives extra rep for "certain activities", but doesn't specify what |
| 20:01.41 | Simca | you get extra rep for your first daily MoP heroic |
| 20:01.52 | Torhal | That's to frustrate the general populace and make dataminers rub their hands together maniacally, Primer. |
| 20:01.56 | Simca | which means you have to be level 90 exactly |
| 20:02.11 | Simca | if you are any other level, the stars are completely meaningless |
| 20:02.16 | Primer | thanks |
| 20:02.24 | Simca | yep |
| 20:02.26 | Primer | Went back to get the water strider |
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| 20:02.37 | Primer | I never enjoyed grinding rep |
| 20:02.43 | Simca | it used to apply for WoD heroics too but they didn't like people getting MoP reps from WoD dungeons |
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| 20:03.02 | Simca | so they broke that in 6.1 or so |
| 20:03.38 | Simca | they really need to rethink how confusing that is for those stars to be there now |
| 20:04.02 | Simca | and for the rep tabards that say they give rep in dungeons but only work in Wrath dungeons |
| 20:06.14 | Simca | maybe they're afraid if they remove them that they'll be bombarded by people saying how useful they were in the 'SUPER COMMON USE CASE' where they locked their toons at 90 to do MoP heroics for rep |
| 20:06.44 | Simca | that seems to be how the forums generally go |
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| 20:21.38 | zenzelezz | Simca: it bothers me that seeing "CASE" in capitals immediately made me think SQL |
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| 20:23.28 | Unkle | Torhal: I got a mmeo |
| 20:23.35 | Unkle | Torhal: Memo even |
| 20:23.52 | Torhal | Yay. |
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| 20:26.04 | zenzelezz | Unkle: for a moment I thought you meant Maemo and was horrified |
| 20:27.58 | mikma | now what's wrong with Maemo |
| 20:29.23 | Torhal | Unkle: Then my work here is done. |
| 20:29.41 | zenzelezz | mikma: the killer platform that never was; for good or bad |
| 20:30.26 | mikma | zenzelezz: i have Nokia N810 that has Maemo :P well it's not been powered for about ... 4 years |
| 20:32.48 | zenzelezz | /ignore |
| 20:32.50 | zenzelezz | :D |
| 20:32.55 | zenzelezz | Nokia actually did good stuff |
| 20:33.10 | zenzelezz | I wonder where they'd been if they'd hit the right timing |
| 20:34.01 | zenzelezz | not sure about globally, but at least in Scandinavia it was Nokia or Sony Ericsson or bust until Android/iOS |
| 20:34.08 | zenzelezz | mostly Nokia |
| 20:35.37 | Stanzilla | did you guys skip blackberry? |
| 20:35.50 | zenzelezz | Blackberry was only ever for business people here |
| 20:36.03 | zenzelezz | that said, for them, that was the primary chocie |
| 20:36.05 | zenzelezz | or choice |
| 20:37.19 | VIad | this is odd... CHAT_MSG_LOOT fires twice with the same message :s |
| 20:39.39 | zenzelezz | lots of loot? |
| 20:39.42 | Simca | that bug is the worst |
| 20:40.01 | Simca | CHAT_MSG_LOOT has a token on it, I think; one of the params |
| 20:40.22 | VIad | wat? |
| 20:40.31 | Simca | maybe you can use that to filter out the dupe |
| 20:40.34 | VIad | hmm |
| 20:40.41 | VIad | but its been doing that like all the time on live for me :/ |
| 20:40.50 | VIad | atm testing to see if I fire my function twice or something |
| 20:41.09 | Simca | ah if it is happening all the time you are probably doing it |
| 20:42.19 | VIad | wtf its true |
| 20:42.23 | VIad | event fires twice |
| 20:42.24 | VIad | same message |
| 20:43.07 | VIad | like I see same message in the /etrace but one difference - the msgID arg13 something |
| 20:43.14 | VIad | but why does it dupe like this? |
| 20:43.25 | VIad | there is no way to make the game fire events double |
| 20:43.32 | zenzelezz | certainty in numbers |
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| 20:45.11 | VIad | hmm |
| 20:45.18 | VIad | I have another chat frame |
| 20:45.27 | VIad | could it be firing one for each frame? that sounds weird |
| 20:45.33 | VIad | but the chat displays it properly |
| 20:45.33 | Unkle | Torhal: Smoke 'em if you got 'em. |
| 20:45.37 | zenzelezz | 100 years later, Slackware 14.2 is out |
| 20:46.54 | zenzelezz | no-one can accuse Pat of rushing |
| 21:20.15 | VIad | btw the camera max distance, I noticed some unpleasantries with the legion distance. like the trash at archy, so many adds that spawn far away, and the nameplates get hard to target if they clump up, as they do, since I usually stand further back and tank the giant minibosses |
| 21:21.05 | VIad | zooming out max allowed me to easier see the trash and who I should go for first, based on range and such |
| 21:31.36 | nevcairiel | just throw a range attack on all of them that spawn |
| 21:37.24 | VIad | with camera closer in, nameplates get pushed to the edge and stack more and you lose sense of what mob is closer and is standing where - thats the issue though |
| 21:37.33 | VIad | unless blizzard dont design encounters that make it so messy |
| 21:37.35 | VIad | but I doubt :p |
| 21:37.44 | VIad | dunno. we'll see. |
| 21:39.42 | Stanzilla | we already concluded that the camera change is bad |
| 21:39.52 | VIad | not everyone think that, Stanzilla |
| 21:39.59 | VIad | nevcairiel is one of those that favors the change |
| 21:40.00 | Stanzilla | fuck them |
| 21:40.09 | VIad | gets the popcorn. |
| 21:40.10 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel is a fanboy and likes everything blizzard does :D |
| 21:40.22 | nevcairiel | i dont favor the change, i just dont care |
| 21:40.43 | nevcairiel | but its not going away |
| 21:41.00 | nevcairiel | they full well knew that people wouldnt like it, and they said so, so people not liking it wont change their mind :p |
| 21:41.09 | VIad | we made real name on forum go away, and we made the flying come back in wod :d |
| 21:41.30 | VIad | I am also curious to see the outcome once 7.0 is live |
| 21:43.36 | VIad | btw nevcairiel, competative mode in overwatch improved it since quick match, but still a way to go sadly. |
| 21:43.59 | nevcairiel | its only two days old, too soon to draw any conclusive data from it |
| 21:44.05 | VIad | but there are some flaws blizz needs to correct though |
| 21:44.24 | VIad | like irregularities with xp gain/loss based on map types |
| 21:44.29 | VIad | xp>skill rating |
| 21:45.00 | VIad | also heard if you DC you get loss, even if you reconnect within the 60 seconds alloted |
| 21:45.23 | VIad | dota2 has a 5 min rule, and the ability to pause games one time per player, so matches can be a bit more fair |
| 21:45.38 | VIad | overwatch is more fast paced, but could have a pause feature |
| 21:45.51 | VIad | if someone DC the game could autopause for a moment to give them time to come back |
| 21:46.16 | VIad | atm hearing if you join back and win, you still get a loss for DCing in the first place |
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| 21:48.55 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure reducing the camera distance was their solution to having a cap on nameplates |
| 21:49.32 | VIad | but the nameplates just stick around the edge of the screen now anyway |
| 21:49.59 | Semlar | only if they're slightly offscreen |
| 21:50.08 | VIad | if in combat they seem to stick really good |
| 21:53.04 | nevcairiel | pausing in a quick fps wouldnt be feasible, really |
| 21:53.25 | VIad | he so salty |
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| 21:58.43 | foxlit | Semlar: so what you're saying is that it's all your fault? |
| 21:58.56 | Semlar | o.o |
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| 22:39.27 | Ketho | why cant I still see my own feet in wow, that would make first person a lot more fun |
| 22:39.46 | relaxok | what? |
| 22:40.14 | Ketho | when i look down in first person mode* |
| 22:41.07 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 23:01.20 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 23:23.22 | Semlar | maybe you don't have feet ketho, did you ever think of that? |
| 23:36.45 | mckenziemc | cuts off Semlar's feet. |
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| 23:59.01 | Ketho | or it could be a new transmog feature x) |
