| 00:01.36 | Ketho | beta and overwatch competitive up, which one to play ... |
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| 00:09.00 | Stanzilla | beta |
| 00:09.05 | Stanzilla | with the running ddos I would not play ranked |
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| 00:14.00 | Ketho | oh well, just realized I'm not level 25 yet :s |
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| 00:36.48 | znf | Stanzilla, lol they broke void erruption |
| 00:37.16 | Stanzilla | how |
| 00:38.52 | znf | nvm, they fixed |
| 00:39.28 | znf | people in /2 complained |
| 00:39.29 | znf | I tested |
| 00:39.31 | znf | they were right |
| 00:39.33 | znf | now it works |
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| 00:54.36 | Kesava | oh so that wasn't just me |
| 00:54.41 | Kesava | i didn't bother finding out |
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| 01:05.25 | mckenziemc | so you admit to being one of the people DDOSing the servers, Kesava? |
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| 02:46.07 | znf | Stanzilla, OH, OK |
| 02:46.19 | znf | Stanzilla, the initial void erruption cast doesn't refresh the dots anymore lol |
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| 04:35.00 | mckenziemc | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-Smashed-In_Buffalo_Jump =/ |
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| 04:40.07 | Torhal | I don't know why you linked that, mckenziemc. Now you'll never fool Neffi. |
| 04:58.43 | mckenziemc | i don't know why anyone would have a nick 6 letters long, Torhal |
| 04:59.02 | Torhal | Because you're one weird little dude. |
| 05:00.12 | byowld | happy now? |
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| 05:07.11 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/TO2wGmd.png |
| 05:07.13 | znf | what the fuck :D |
| 05:34.10 | Torhal | ~framexml |
| 05:34.10 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
| 05:34.58 | byowld | stabs Torhal and hugs Cairenn and goes to bed. |
| 05:35.16 | Torhal | buffalo jumps byowld. |
| 05:35.39 | Cairenn | hugs byowld |
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| 06:40.22 | Fisker | finds Cairenn stuck in a hugjam and hugs Cairenn |
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| 06:49.39 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 08:15.59 | VIad | hugs Cairenn |
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| 08:26.04 | Miiru | legion boxed for 29,99 is a good price :) |
| 08:27.02 | Miiru | Anyone knows if they are gonna sell the upgrade to digital collectors legion for the same price as upgrade to digital collectors wod? |
| 08:27.11 | Miiru | thinks probably |
| 08:29.46 | VIad | hopefully the upgrade will cost the difference between regular and the upgraded target |
| 08:30.07 | Miiru | yes that what i was assuming |
| 08:30.36 | Miiru | because my girlfriend always buys the digital CE which is stupid because I always gift her the CE for christmas :D |
| 08:31.54 | VIad | give her the greatest gift ever - inviation to one of your realms mythic raiding guilds so she can prove her worth and enjoy the engame as intended |
| 08:32.42 | Miiru | we dont have a mythic raiding guild on our realm :D |
| 08:33.08 | VIad | wat? |
| 08:33.15 | Miiru | dead realm is dead |
| 08:33.29 | VIad | I guess paid transfers giftcard is in order |
| 08:33.50 | VIad | I thought blizz merged realms together if one died |
| 08:34.01 | Miiru | yes they merged 2 dead realms |
| 08:34.06 | Miiru | now its 1 deader realm |
| 08:34.11 | VIad | nice |
| 08:35.28 | VIad | they should keep merging then :p |
| 08:35.31 | Miiru | oh sb selling burning crusade CE for at the moment 3,50 :O |
| 08:35.42 | VIad | sb? |
| 08:35.46 | Miiru | somebody |
| 08:35.48 | Miiru | at ebay |
| 08:35.51 | VIad | oh |
| 08:35.57 | VIad | how do you know the key isnt used? |
| 08:35.58 | Miiru | gotta watch for that 1 |
| 08:36.06 | Miiru | it says its not used |
| 08:36.10 | VIad | right |
| 08:36.17 | VIad | and I have a ferrari |
| 08:36.27 | Miiru | and since i can pay with paypal |
| 08:36.40 | Miiru | im gonna get my money back for sure if its a scam |
| 08:37.14 | VIad | heard about the kid that donated like 50k and tried to use that feature, but was denied, because it doesnt cover donations :p his parents were mad, and he was like 18 :p |
| 08:37.30 | VIad | (donated to some streamer) |
| 08:39.35 | Miiru | is it possible to test if codes have been used? |
| 08:40.30 | VIad | not really |
| 08:40.33 | VIad | like |
| 08:40.37 | VIad | you use it, you get informed, thats it |
| 08:40.46 | Maldivia | you enter it, if it's used it says so, if not, it upgrades |
| 08:41.23 | Miiru | mhm |
| 08:42.21 | VIad | from a technical standpoint, can you brute force keys? |
| 08:42.37 | VIad | I mean, they are generated and stored in a list that gets emptied as people use the keys, right? |
| 08:43.23 | Maldivia | you can bruteforce them, sure... but they probably trottle the number of keys you can enter, so good luck bruteforcing if you can only test 10 keys/minute :) |
| 08:43.29 | VIad | the input site probably has a timeout if you try too much, but considering accounts are free to create, you could make elaborate system to try out keys |
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| 08:45.18 | VIad | wonder if there is a system |
| 08:45.57 | VIad | like a pattern to identify the product type the key belongs to |
| 08:46.13 | VIad | like how creditcards can be quickly checked if the digits are legit using maths |
| 08:51.12 | VIad | I mean I guess the power is with us |
| 08:51.24 | VIad | can ask for people to post their keys and product info in a spreadsheet on google |
| 08:51.30 | VIad | :p |
| 08:51.42 | VIad | we got enough data available to try analyze the keys and look for patterns |
| 08:52.23 | Miiru | you think people will post that gamekey if the key can be used to recover an account? :D |
| 08:54.16 | VIad | hmm |
| 08:54.21 | VIad | depends |
| 08:54.30 | VIad | you need more info than just the key right? |
| 08:54.41 | VIad | could share banned account keys, those are plenty too |
| 08:54.53 | VIad | doubt they willbe of much use anyhow |
| 08:55.40 | Miiru | i thought cou could just tranfer your banned account to a new battle.net account and go on with life |
| 08:57.57 | VIad | no |
| 08:58.27 | VIad | you can't do anything with banned accounts except ask service to like, hide it/remove it from your bnet :p |
| 08:58.32 | VIad | so it doesnt appear in the list |
| 08:58.42 | Miiru | perma banned? |
| 08:58.57 | VIad | you were thinking of temporary ban, or suspension :p |
| 08:59.13 | Miiru | are there that many perma banned people? |
| 08:59.18 | VIad | sure there are |
| 08:59.22 | VIad | it's easy to get perma banned |
| 09:00.30 | Miiru | sounds like a bad infomercial :D |
| 09:00.44 | VIad | google anything related to "bot" and use it for instant ban :p |
| 09:01.12 | Miiru | didnt people in the latest ban waved only get 6 month bans? |
| 09:01.23 | VIad | depends what they were doing |
| 09:01.31 | VIad | if botting then blizz should be castrated |
| 09:01.42 | VIad | if exploiting some bug then 6 months is fine |
| 09:02.02 | VIad | unless it was really major exploit ruining the game for everyone else :p |
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| 09:02.31 | Miiru | afaik they were using farmbots and got 6 months |
| 09:02.33 | VIad | suspensions should only be dealt as long hacking the game isnt involved |
| 09:02.36 | VIad | thats stupid |
| 09:02.47 | VIad | back in my day there were zero tolerance policies |
| 09:03.22 | VIad | my friend had his own bot bnet account he added wow accounts to because he just couldnt stop bot farming. he got perm banned on every account he bought to bot with :p |
| 09:03.33 | VIad | was only question when warden was updated, detected, and the bans were deployed |
| 09:04.17 | VIad | but if people can do it now and get 6 months then I can tell him he can come back for legion if he still want to bot farm :p |
| 09:05.09 | VIad | imo if you involve programs changing the game or its memory space, it should be perma, no exceptions |
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| 09:16.12 | Miiru | only used same grey-area texture replacements... but tis not working anymore since .casc |
| 09:17.40 | VIad | back in early vanilla I had a reskinned black/red version of dragonstalker |
| 09:17.51 | VIad | by simply placing the textures in the right path |
| 09:17.59 | VIad | at some point blizzards updater baked in the files int othe mpqs :p |
| 09:18.13 | VIad | it was okay until at some point updater couldn't update the game because hash differences :p |
| 09:18.21 | VIad | or what ever, had to reinstall the whole game, hehe |
| 09:19.15 | Miiru | was about the same... because the point.blp in the Cursor folder has been made unable to change, i just put it into an .mpq file to still change it |
| 09:19.29 | Miiru | i think they blocked it because of fishing bots or something |
| 09:19.37 | Miiru | sadly its still not possible to exchange it |
| 09:20.42 | VIad | nah |
| 09:20.45 | VIad | people edited the world |
| 09:20.55 | VIad | at some point they did add restrictions and checks to model files and such |
| 09:21.07 | VIad | but textures could still be edited for some reason |
| 09:21.43 | Miiru | you can swap every texture in the Interface folder, except the cursor.blp |
| 09:22.01 | Miiru | *pont.blp |
| 09:22.03 | Miiru | *point |
| 09:22.21 | VIad | hmm |
| 09:22.24 | VIad | thats odd |
| 09:22.28 | Miiru | its just UI graphics. nothing related to world object |
| 09:23.08 | Miiru | or maybe even all the different cursor graphics |
| 09:23.18 | Miiru | never tried the otehr ones :D |
| 09:23.27 | Miiru | they probably blocked the whole cursor folder |
| 09:23.41 | VIad | you can edit stuff by placing it in the Interface file but they have full control what they want you to be able to edit and not |
| 09:23.50 | VIad | folder* |
| 09:24.01 | Miiru | and i think i read something about the fishing bobber being the reason |
| 09:24.24 | VIad | werent they finally adding custom bobbers to the game in legion? |
| 09:24.43 | Miiru | because if you changed it to say a pink square bots would have an easier time to see that a fish has bitten |
| 09:24.51 | Miiru | dunno i didnt fish in legion yet :D |
| 09:25.06 | VIad | sounds odd, considering bots that read memory dont care how it looks :p |
| 09:25.29 | Miiru | that was back in bc so I don't know |
| 09:26.33 | VIad | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 09:26.46 | VIad | speaking of bots and tbc, I miss the doomwalker boss infront of BT |
| 09:26.50 | VIad | I never see it up anymore |
| 09:26.57 | VIad | I guess people just zerg it the second its alive :( |
| 09:27.40 | Miiru | yea probably :D |
| 09:27.54 | Miiru | people are gonna get rich selling them models! |
| 09:28.59 | VIad | ! |
| 09:29.16 | VIad | garrison is already the legal way to get rich |
| 09:29.25 | VIad | I just cba and dont got the time to login twice a day for it :p |
| 09:29.50 | VIad | one of my friends that is jobless atm, god bless his soul, has been doing that. atm peaked 2 mil gold just from that, like half year work. |
| 09:30.21 | Miiru | I have an excel sheet with gold income |
| 09:30.28 | Miiru | its running for a year now |
| 09:30.38 | Miiru | peak was 300k a month |
| 09:31.07 | Miiru | thats doing all 4 hellbane once per day and normal garrison usage |
| 09:31.19 | Miiru | plus kazzak once per week |
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| 09:32.45 | VIad | if you are lazy you only use 5 min in garrison daily |
| 09:33.01 | VIad | anything else is too much work :p |
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| 09:48.58 | karl_w_w | http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/perth-traffic-chaos-lone-man-cleans-mitchell-freeway-spill-five-others-watch-20160629-gpuq6m.html |
| 09:50.28 | VIad | "various personnel on site who all had different roles and responsibilities with managing the complex clean-up and diesel spill" |
| 09:50.40 | VIad | I wonder what the other guys were managing |
| 09:50.59 | VIad | the positive reinforcement guy was yelling out motivational words, probably |
| 09:51.13 | VIad | the team manager were complimenting how good work they all are doing |
| 09:52.46 | VIad | was it you karl_w_w? |
| 09:52.52 | VIad | were you the guy working |
| 09:53.15 | karl_w_w | hell no, I was the moral support |
| 09:53.44 | VIad | maybe they had no more brooms ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 09:54.08 | VIad | and no budget to buy some, sorry Tom, you are gonna have to solo this one |
| 10:07.32 | VIad | karl_w_w: did you finish your dark souls 3? |
| 10:10.33 | karl_w_w | ive never played it |
| 10:10.50 | karl_w_w | also whenever I write played I have to stop myself writing plaid |
| 10:11.25 | VIad | :o |
| 10:11.41 | VIad | why haven't you plaid dark souls? :( it's awesome games |
| 10:12.33 | VIad | s/.*/why haven't you played the dark souls games? they're awesome!/ |
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| 10:52.42 | Miiru | omfg |
| 10:53.05 | Miiru | this cant be true |
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| 10:56.38 | Miiru | some guy in germany sent his niece text messages on her phone saying it has been hacked by the pentagon and now she has to do everything that he (claiming to be a member of the pentagon) says. He then claimed that she can only save herself if she had sex with her uncle (him). |
| 10:56.41 | Miiru | and it worked |
| 10:56.43 | Miiru | wtf |
| 10:57.30 | Miiru | thats wrong on so many levels |
| 10:59.03 | Torhal | I totally come to this channel to read about how fucked up people are. |
| 10:59.06 | Torhal | >.> |
| 10:59.51 | NuSuey | Miiru: O.O wtf |
| 11:01.00 | nevcairiel | people are idiots, news at 11 |
| 11:01.12 | relaxok | messing around with the lvl 100 copies of various classes, i am utterly shocked at how much has been changed (legion) |
| 11:01.16 | Fisker | seems to be wrong on like one level |
| 11:01.52 | relaxok | they really put the pedal to the metal as far as differentiating the specs |
| 11:02.02 | relaxok | i never thought i'd see locks without shadowbolt or dots |
| 11:02.20 | nevcairiel | destruction hasnt had shadow bolt for ages, didnt it |
| 11:02.51 | relaxok | maybe i'm late knowing about some changes |
| 11:03.06 | relaxok | but its just massive.. only 1 rogue spec has poisons and bleeds |
| 11:04.36 | relaxok | i was half reading news about this over the months but actually logging in and looking at what abilities you have and dont have is shocking |
| 11:06.30 | relaxok | disc priest seems to have no heals at all? |
| 11:06.36 | relaxok | is that also not new? |
| 11:07.26 | nevcairiel | disc got seriously revamped in legion |
| 11:07.38 | nevcairiel | they have some heals still, but the majority they are doing through damage now |
| 11:07.48 | nevcairiel | less aborbs, more dps |
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| 11:11.58 | bluipodcow | *ruffles Torhal's hair* |
| 11:12.10 | bluipodcow | *steals 2 of his cats* |
| 11:18.39 | Torhal | sends Peter Jackson to film all his subsequent movies at bluipodcow's home. |
| 11:31.38 | karl_w_w | this guy is smiling a lot for somebody who could be about to diehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLOFaWdPxB0 |
| 11:31.47 | karl_w_w | s/die/die / |
| 11:39.54 | VIad | Miiru: you ommited the age of the girl, if she was 25 it stupidity. if she was underaged it's jail sentence. |
| 11:40.23 | VIad | maybe jail sentence regardless, since he was impersonating government employe |
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| 12:30.10 | Tentacled | So I finally made HBD show dots on the main map, but boy, is it a hack... http://puu.sh/pKafv/b06ed99e9c.jpg I crammed their sizings into mapData[0].floors[n], but since Eastern is instance 0, and floor 0 isn't too popular a concept, it's ugly inside. Nevcairiel, if you'd like to take a look then I can prepare a patch or something. Other than that just bragging. |
| 12:41.27 | NuSuey | would love to be so clever to know what even the word HBD means :P |
| 12:41.42 | Tentacled | HereBeDragons, Nevcairiel's mapping lib. |
| 12:43.06 | VIad | marketing wise astrolabe definetly wins the name/purpose |
| 12:43.35 | VIad | Tentacled: arent these maps considered continentID -1 ? |
| 12:44.25 | Torhal | VIad: I suppose you've never seen old-world maps, before they knew about the Americas and such, where the edge of the map said "Here Be Dragons" |
| 12:44.43 | Torhal | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here_be_dragons |
| 12:45.08 | Torhal | Bedtime. |
| 12:45.11 | Tentacled | Vlad: continentID-1 is "cosmic map" with the three worlds. Azeroth with Eastern, Kali, NR and Pandaria is 0. |
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| 12:51.13 | VIad | lol thats funny, Torhal |
| 12:51.31 | VIad | Tentacled: what is the outland view, -2? |
| 12:51.42 | VIad | if you rightclick once more to see outland/azeroth map |
| 12:51.51 | Tentacled | That's the cosmic map. |
| 12:51.52 | Tentacled | -1. |
| 12:51.54 | VIad | yes |
| 12:52.00 | Tentacled | Outland is 3. |
| 12:52.01 | VIad | and when you click azeroth, what id is it? |
| 12:52.09 | VIad | 0? |
| 12:52.11 | Tentacled | Azeroth is 0. |
| 12:52.13 | VIad | ok |
| 12:52.28 | Tentacled | I'm talking about GetCurrentMapContinent() all the time, to be sure. |
| 12:52.42 | VIad | but this continent 0 has no coordinates mapping the distances with the subzones? |
| 12:53.01 | Tentacled | Yup, that's the problem. Between subcontinents, you mean, though. |
| 12:53.05 | VIad | yes |
| 12:53.33 | VIad | did you have to approximate the numbers? |
| 12:53.40 | Tentacled | For all the zones, the game nicely provides border coordinates within their continent, or instance, as HBD calls them. |
| 12:54.08 | Tentacled | Yup, sadly. Although they probably COULD be mathed out, surveying how the player arrow moves on the continent and the supercontinent maps. |
| 12:54.21 | VIad | well these will never move tbh |
| 12:54.28 | VIad | so not that bad if they are hardcoded |
| 12:54.51 | Tentacled | ... But, for the continents-on-supercontinent, no coords are given. (Finishing the thought.) |
| 12:54.58 | nevcairiel | they did move though, when they added broken isles :p |
| 12:55.14 | nevcairiel | EK moved further to the east |
| 12:55.15 | Tentacled | Yup, and when Northrend was added, too. |
| 12:55.34 | VIad | so we would have to redo the maths once ever expansion they add a new continent to azeroth map |
| 12:55.56 | VIad | but the locations of these is in the game, right? |
| 12:56.11 | Tentacled | Only insofar as we see the player arrow located on them. |
| 12:56.11 | VIad | like, how else does the game draw the clickable continents, and place the artwork? |
| 12:56.24 | Tentacled | Clickability and artwork are entirely visual. |
| 12:56.43 | VIad | but there are some relative positioning in the xml then? |
| 12:56.46 | Tentacled | The only thing that uses any sort of maths is the player arrow. |
| 12:57.03 | VIad | topleft part of kalimdor starts at 0.15, 0.25 and such |
| 12:57.22 | Tentacled | Well, there are bitmaps created in the xml, but as I said, they're just bitmaps. They're only made to look like continents. |
| 12:57.31 | VIad | ah right |
| 12:57.43 | VIad | they just do it that way - not layering the continents on top of a background |
| 12:58.08 | Tentacled | Even if they did, the bitmaps for the continents zoomed out could have zero to do with the continent maps when zoomed in. ): |
| 12:58.36 | VIad | but the player position api probably just is internally tweaked to return coordinates in the right scale for the azeroth map, but dunno if we have any access to it, nor in the dbc |
| 12:58.37 | Tentacled | And actually they DO have zero to do, seeing as on the world map the Uldum river is shown, while on Kalimdor map it isn't. |
| 12:58.56 | nevcairiel | my main concern about that is not how to gather the data or even the fact that its hardcoded, but how it would fit into API wihtout being too ugly, and it would probably turn out inconsistent since some calculations just dont make sense |
| 12:59.30 | Tentacled | nev, well, there's only one bit you'll probably cringe at, but the cringe will be epic. |
| 12:59.52 | Tentacled | local function getMapDataTable(mapID, level) ... > if mapID==0 and level==0 then level=2 end |
| 13:00.30 | Tentacled | The rest just has feeding the continent number instead of a floor into respective functions. |
| 13:00.35 | VIad | I was thinking like |
| 13:00.50 | VIad | _G.GetContinentMapInfo = function(...) return override end |
| 13:01.01 | Tentacled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:01.25 | Tentacled | Imagine the taint. :) |
| 13:01.25 | VIad | so you admit I beat your suggestion? :p |
| 13:01.34 | VIad | cringe evolved to puke |
| 13:01.44 | VIad | and probably can't use the map in combat |
| 13:01.50 | VIad | gotta sacrifice something |
| 13:02.11 | VIad | well |
| 13:02.27 | VIad | nevcairiel: is it possible to specify an alternative set of rules if the continent is negative? |
| 13:02.32 | VIad | or like <1 |
| 13:03.00 | VIad | provide some hardcoded numbers for those |
| 13:03.23 | VIad | so many people ask for pins to appear on the azeroth level, since there are so many zones there |
| 13:03.28 | VIad | subcontinents* |
| 13:03.41 | nevcairiel | looking at the different HBD APIs: |
| 13:04.28 | nevcairiel | GetWorldCoordinatesFromZone doesnt make sense with continent origin, since you don't know the final instance, and trying to separate them sounds ugly as f' |
| 13:04.35 | nevcairiel | GetZoneCoordinatesFromWorld could probably be done |
| 13:04.46 | Tentacled | Let's see what I had to touch... |
| 13:04.49 | nevcairiel | TranslateZoneCoordinates as well |
| 13:04.59 | nevcairiel | GetZoneDistance as well |
| 13:05.01 | VIad | Guill is here, we could ask nicely... |
| 13:05.20 | VIad | maybe the internal api could get an update for 8.0 |
| 13:05.33 | nevcairiel | thats what I mean with inconsistent, some APIs would either require extraordinary hackery or just not work with the continent map |
| 13:06.04 | Tentacled | nev: Actually, in HBD itself I only added that floor=0 in getMapData, so that 0,0 results in reading mapData[0].floors[2] as it doesn't like a 0 floor. |
| 13:06.32 | nevcairiel | why not skip the 0 floor and store it straight in mapData[0] |
| 13:06.39 | nevcairiel | its empty otherwise |
| 13:06.52 | nevcairiel | thats where the info for other zones usually lives |
| 13:07.06 | Tentacled | Hmm. It's less ugly indeed. Although the OTHER "floors" will be in .floors even though they're sibling continents. But less of a hack indeed. |
| 13:09.51 | Tentacled | nev: More trickery's involved in HBD-Pins, but no parameters needed changing, just calls to HBD:GetZoneCoordinatesFromWorld et al. |
| 13:10.17 | Tentacled | Mostly giving it "(currentMapID ~= 0 and currentMapFloor or data.instanceID)" instead of currentMapFloor. |
| 13:10.44 | Tentacled | The numbers I hardcoded actually work out of the box in that case. |
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| 13:11.00 | nevcairiel | well thats what I really would like to avoid, if its officially integrated it should not require passing the original continent as a floor or something |
| 13:11.23 | nevcairiel | because its not a floor :) |
| 13:12.58 | Tentacled | I tried to change as little as possible :) |
| 13:13.15 | nevcairiel | but the API doesnt have a way to specify the origin continent, it assumes you always venture within the same continent |
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| 13:14.22 | nevcairiel | I could see simply adding one extra special case, namely make TranslateZoneCoordinates support translating local zone coordinates up to a continent level |
| 13:14.27 | nevcairiel | then it knows everything it needs to know |
| 13:14.43 | nevcairiel | still needs a bit of special code in tools that want to use it, but less invasive imho |
| 13:16.52 | nevcairiel | (and HBD-Pins could cover it for you, if all you want is pins) |
| 13:17.31 | nevcairiel | i should probably write some library docs until legion releases |
| 13:19.23 | znf | who needs docs? :P |
| 13:20.00 | Tentacled | I don't believe there's any other use for all this mess other than pins - it's not like distances or angles matter across continents. |
| 13:20.26 | mckenziemc | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 13:20.45 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo, mckenziemc. How you dooooin'? |
| 13:20.53 | mckenziemc | tired :( |
| 13:22.59 | nevcairiel | or maybe passing the instanceID of the continent as a level aint too bad of a kludge either, it kinda needs that information passed someway |
| 13:23.32 | VIad | ^ could make it work with the cosmic map too even that way |
| 13:23.41 | VIad | for outland and the amazing cluttered icons for azeroth :d |
| 13:23.48 | nevcairiel | that one is way too tiny to matter |
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| 13:24.10 | nevcairiel | and not perspectively correct |
| 13:24.11 | VIad | where is equality? |
| 13:24.32 | VIad | I agree |
| 13:25.20 | Tentacled | nev: http://sinpi.net/f/HereBeDragons-1.0-tentacled.zip if you want to take a look. |
| 13:25.36 | nevcairiel | HBD is on github as well if that helps to work on it |
| 13:26.10 | Tentacled | Oh, silly me. |
| 13:26.26 | nevcairiel | btw cleft of shadow should be fixed |
| 13:30.17 | Tentacled | Well then that hardcoded bit of mine won't be needed anymore. ^_^ |
| 13:33.01 | nevcairiel | i wonder, cant you calculate accurate numbers based on the player position and GetPlayerMapPosition("player"), taking a few readings on each continent and solving for the wanted variables? |
| 13:34.16 | VIad | should be possible |
| 13:34.25 | VIad | since we know the data for each continent |
| 13:34.44 | nevcairiel | you dont need to know any data |
| 13:35.00 | nevcairiel | you know the formula to calculate them, but it has 4 variables that are unknown |
| 13:35.18 | nevcairiel | so with sufficient readings, you should have enough data to solve it |
| 13:35.28 | mckenziemc | extrapolates from VIad's existence. |
| 13:38.06 | VIad | undergoes osmosis. |
| 13:38.17 | Tentacled | Yes, it's possible to "pantograph" the data like that - I would have if we needed distances to work properly (on Astrolabe they always used the current map's pins, so setting wrong map sizes and offsets broke distance calculations there). I consider my guesses fairly good, though. :P |
| 13:39.46 | Tentacled | For example Kalimdor is calced to be 1.71-ish times smaller on Azeroth than on its own map. |
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| 13:41.38 | Tentacled | Actually, it'll need three sets of numbers, nev: (a) UnitPosition, (b) GetPlayerMapPosition("player") for continent, and (c) GPMP for world. |
| 13:42.09 | nevcairiel | not UnitPosition is needed |
| 13:42.09 | Tentacled | Because ultimately we'd have to work with UnitPosition+instance numbers. |
| 13:42.12 | nevcairiel | +sure |
| 13:42.47 | Tentacled | That's what's fed into HBD:GetZoneCoordinatesFromWorld, isn't it? |
| 13:43.12 | Tentacled | Or specifically, what PositionWorldMapIcon feeds into it. |
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| 13:43.59 | nevcairiel | http://pastebin.com/WwJvR88b |
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| 13:45.27 | Tentacled | Hmm. x1,y1 and x3,y3 are what in mapData? |
| 13:45.28 | nevcairiel | combined two formulas for 4 variables |
| 13:45.38 | nevcairiel | they are not, those are GPMP from cintentn and world |
| 13:45.50 | Tentacled | ah, all right |
| 13:48.38 | Tentacled | But in those equations you're mixing 0..1 player map coords with left/top/width/height which are in yards... I'm confused. |
| 13:49.06 | nevcairiel | those are the formulas to convert from 0..1 to yards |
| 13:49.18 | nevcairiel | the first two convert from 0..1 to yards, the second back from yards to 0..1 |
| 13:49.37 | Tentacled | Ah, so it's intended. |
| 13:49.56 | nevcairiel | yes, becausde we know two pairs of 0..1 coords |
| 13:50.02 | nevcairiel | and we can make a relationship between them |
| 13:50.07 | nevcairiel | we just dont know the values in between to get there |
| 13:50.14 | nevcairiel | but we can all put them in one formula |
| 13:50.16 | nevcairiel | just need to solve it |
| 13:50.23 | Tentacled | Yes, I built an ESO map surverying tool similarly some time ago. |
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| 13:51.27 | nevcairiel | my math sure has become rusty |
| 13:52.19 | Tentacled | Let's see. For Kalimdor, 0.56314504146576,0.44873625040054 matching 0.23870562016964,0.50300282239914 that's one point... |
| 13:52.38 | Tentacled | And 0.56008601188660,0.44419431686401 matches 0.23691819608212,0.50034898519516 |
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| 13:53.16 | Tentacled | What it immediately gives us is a scale of 1.711417900496304 :) |
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| 13:55.36 | Tentacled | ... which gets us oddly nowhere, as I expected it to fit with the 59325.11 the game gives as width of map 0, but 59325*1.7 is nowhere near the 63570 that's almost right. |
| 13:56.34 | Tentacled | But it DOES fit with the game's Kalimdor size, so I'm just an idiot. |
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| 13:57.18 | Tentacled | mapData[13][1]==36799, 36799*1.71=62558 which is almost my 63570. |
| 13:59.07 | nevcairiel | anyway some hints on your patch: mapdata for [0] is hardcoded anyway early on in fixupZones, you can just add the extra data there, no need to have an extra table and a merge function on the bottom. also, no tabs :) |
| 13:59.38 | Arrow|work | ohh map stuff, fun |
| 13:59.46 | Tentacled | Indeed, I found it later after the merge function was in place. :P |
| 13:59.54 | Tentacled | No tabs? |
| 13:59.58 | Tentacled | Ah. |
| 14:00.06 | Tentacled | I'm in love with tabs, sorry. :P |
| 14:00.07 | nevcairiel | i use spaces for indent in that particular file |
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| 14:07.00 | Tentacled | So. for Kalimdor sizes, it's 62979.83 41986.13 |
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| 14:09.52 | nevcairiel | its unfortunate that the EK instance id is 0, it would've been so much nicer if it was something else |
| 14:17.56 | Tentacled | Yuuuup. |
| 14:19.52 | nevcairiel | i thought about using the mapid of the continent map instead, but that is unfortunately not as readily available |
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| 14:29.22 | Tentacled | Bah, making these sizes and offsets mathematically perfect makes no sense, now that I look at it. The maps just aren't drawn well enough -_- |
| 14:30.56 | Tentacled | Even though I calculated the sizes for Kali and Eastern properly, I can't get them to line up using my manual offset tweaking. So calculating the offset won't help much, either - it'll still be kinda off-ish here or there, because artists took some liberties. |
| 14:33.39 | VIad | blizzard did something that makes the window mode of legion, like heartstone, to just align the window as-is to perfect scale, to the top-left :p |
| 14:34.21 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1467210858.png |
| 14:37.58 | VIad | nvm, after toggling tons of stuff on and off I managed to in the end fix it again |
| 14:38.02 | VIad | maybe it was a freak accident |
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| 15:28.47 | VIad | blizzard added that when I do stuff with a guardian |
| 15:28.52 | VIad | they level too after quests :d |
| 15:29.00 | VIad | "[Guardian] has earned 150 xp." |
| 15:29.42 | VIad | GARRISON_FOLLOWER_XP_ADDED_ZONE_SUPPORT |
| 15:31.10 | nevcairiel | they have gained xp for a while now |
| 15:31.16 | nevcairiel | it just wasnt displayed |
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| 15:37.27 | karl_w_w | https://i.imgur.com/O0wZLIB.jpg |
| 15:37.49 | Tentacled | "GENIUS". |
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| 15:46.15 | Michael_ | Hey guys, is there a way to rotate a 3D model on all 3 axis's |
| 15:46.30 | Tentacled | It'd be so nice. |
| 15:46.53 | Michael_ | Like you could do custom cameras, but youd need to know the height of the model. |
| 15:53.12 | Michael_ | So theres no way im guessing? |
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| 16:17.06 | Miiru | http://store.steampowered.com/app/379980/ |
| 16:17.11 | Miiru | Panzermadels! The first dating simulator to deliver a thoughtful look at tanks, and the men who date them! |
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| 16:25.30 | Ketho | If they also did one for Girls und Panzer I would definitely buy |
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| 16:27.57 | VIad | why do I get friend requests from bots like this? http://steamcommunity.com/id/onvoqc |
| 16:28.35 | VIad | where the heck do people find my profile anyway? it's not like I am being invited by people I've played with |
| 16:28.53 | nevcairiel | everyone on steam gets random spam invites |
| 16:29.00 | VIad | ugh |
| 16:29.14 | nevcairiel | although i get maybe 5 a year only or so |
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| 16:48.51 | VIad | nevcairiel: http://masteroverwatch.com/news/26-regarding-score-and-the-score-leaderboards |
| 16:48.58 | VIad | told you they would make it more casual friendly :D |
| 17:01.47 | zenzelezz | anyone else getting security warnings from twitch.tv? (NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID) |
| 17:06.49 | Tentacled | nev: I cleaned up the tabs and made it into a nice Github fork. May I interest you with a pull request? :) (The numeric data remained guesstimated, but it's of good-enough quality as far as I'm concerned) |
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| 17:34.28 | VIad | going to buy this as christmas present for my niece (4) http://feistypets.com/ |
| 17:35.28 | Miiru | http://www.mwctoys.com/images2/review_creepycuddler_2.jpg |
| 17:35.29 | Miiru | ! |
| 17:36.21 | VIad | sneekums look fun |
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| 18:28.33 | VIad | 4 wins 1 loss on my placement matches so far |
| 18:36.41 | mckenziemc | replaces VIad. |
| 18:39.22 | VIad | discards mckenziemc. |
| 18:39.59 | harl | that barely even made sense. |
| 18:41.02 | mckenziemc | he played some placement matches |
| 18:41.08 | mckenziemc | he was trying to get re-placed |
| 18:50.58 | VIad | overwatch MrHarlbot |
| 18:51.02 | VIad | competitive mode :p |
| 18:51.16 | VIad | you play 10 games to get your skill measured, and I am atm 4win/1loss |
| 18:51.21 | VIad | 5 more games to go |
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| 20:42.47 | Semlar | wtf is this, /dump EncounterJournalSuggestFrame.Suggestion1.icon:GetTexture() returns "mask13" |
| 20:43.55 | foxlit | last anyone heard, masking textures creates separate copies. |
| 20:45.45 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/1VHEVqD.jpg i kind of prefer it this way because my addon thinks the texture is missing |
| 20:46.33 | Guill | Yeah, currently masks are just implemented with software copying of pixels :( |
| 20:46.44 | Guill | Want to fix that now that we don't support fixed-function graphics cards, but haven't had the time |
| 20:47.21 | Semlar | you can't call SetTexture with the mask name though, it's just kind of a placeholder |
| 20:48.33 | Semlar | oh yeah, are textures still being read from the disk instead of memory every time they're set? |
| 20:49.24 | nevcairiel | wasnt there a hidden cvar to tell it to evict any texture objects as soon as they are unused |
| 20:49.30 | nevcairiel | maybe its on for you |
| 20:50.37 | Semlar | yeah but this was separate from that cvar |
| 20:50.38 | NodusCursorius | releaseUITextures |
| 20:50.57 | Semlar | that's for getting rid of the texture every time it's hidden |
| 20:51.20 | NodusCursorius | Oh, then nevcairiel you are privy to something I'm completely unfamiliar with. But you have my attention now. |
| 20:51.25 | Semlar | which also seems like kind of a net loss since textures couldn't possibly use more than like 20mb of additional ram |
| 20:52.17 | Semlar | Guill: is "releaseUITextures" something that's going to be enabled by default on live? |
| 20:58.29 | Ketho | does it only affect memory or also the framerate slightly? otherwise I would understand if someone wants to have it enabled |
| 21:02.09 | Semlar | there should be no difference in frame rate either way if it's nonblocking |
| 21:02.35 | Semlar | otherwise, it would be a framerate loss every time it shows the texture with that cvar enabled |
| 21:03.02 | Semlar | because it has to read the texture from the disk then display it instead of just using the copy that's already in memory |
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| 21:04.47 | Semlar | i don't think it delays the next frame while it's doing that though |
| 21:04.57 | Semlar | it just doesn't show anything for the texture until it's loaded |
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| 21:06.29 | Tentacled | A kingdom for a BNC... :/ |
| 21:06.58 | mckenziemc | hands Tentacled a floppy drive connector |
| 21:07.45 | Tentacled | Are you sure? a BNC cable was coaxial... |
| 21:08.19 | mckenziemc | i'm sure you can make it work |
| 21:08.44 | Guill | Semlar: releaseUITextures has been enabled on 32-bit clients since 2012. |
| 21:08.56 | Guill | And you're right, it's about 20mb of RAM. Believe it or not, that makes a significant difference for a lot of our players |
| 21:10.53 | Semlar | we got this effect on the beta with it when we were hiding and showing nameplates OnUpdate https://gfycat.com/UnknownDisloyalKinkajou |
| 21:11.51 | TheDanW | Semlar: hiding the unit frame attached to the nameplate or the actual nameplate frame? |
| 21:12.25 | TheDanW | also, the addon textures reading from disk even though it's already set on a texture should be fixed in an upcoming build |
| 21:12.27 | Semlar | they were custom nameplate frames that were just positioned on top of where the nameplates were |
| 21:13.07 | Semlar | for some reason it was a large performance gain to hide the frame before repositioning its anchor and then showing it again |
| 21:13.20 | Semlar | i think it's a lot less of an improvement now though |
| 21:13.53 | TheDanW | yeah, there should be very little difference if any, i optimized that path a few weeks ago |
| 21:14.33 | Semlar | https://gfycat.com/HandyPoliticalFennecfox this is how it used to be if you attached a bunch of stuff directly to the nameplates |
| 21:14.38 | TheDanW | hiding the base nameplate frame likely won't work well, hiding any of its children should be fine though |
| 21:15.37 | TheDanW | yeah, it was doing a lot of unnecessary work previously, usually dropping fps by 20% or so |
| 21:15.39 | Semlar | https://gfycat.com/GloomySilverGreatdane this is how much of an improvement it was to detach it from the nameplate itself and hide it before calling SetPoint |
| 21:15.59 | TheDanW | or more with a large number of children |
| 21:16.00 | Semlar | so it was some issue with moving visible frames |
| 21:16.39 | Semlar | even if you were just hiding it and showing it again within the same OnUpdate |
| 21:18.53 | Tentacled | I know this is probably not a politically correct question, but... there's not talk of revamping how text is rendered onto frames, and how it uses a different decimal truncation than textures, resulting in inability to position text with pixel-perfect accuracy..? :P |
| 21:19.08 | Tentacled | s/not talk/no talk/ |
| 21:19.29 | Tentacled | ... racy, is there..? :P |
| 21:20.45 | mckenziemc | ~botsnack rat poison |
| 21:20.45 | purl | aw, gee, mckenziemc |
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| 21:27.51 | TheDanW | Tentacled: the glyph rendering has to round differently to make the glyphs look "crisp", it's not too likely to change |
| 21:45.50 | Tentacled | But... fontstrings are rendered by snapping to a certain pixel and then the whole fontstring is displayed from there. So I wonder why that point is not selected to match how texture positions are rounded. |
| 21:46.53 | Tentacled | There can't be a reason why moving the whole frame 1 pixel to the left results in all its contents moving nicely, then 1 more pixel and everything moves but some fontstrings stayed at the old location, and 1 more pixel to the left and the fontstring jumps exactly 2 pixels to the left, catching up with the rest of the frame. |
| 22:00.27 | znf | Who had the great idea to put detector guards around Baskets in suramar? :-/ |
| 22:00.54 | nevcairiel | what do you expect, free stuff? |
| 22:01.09 | Semlar | i expect free stuff |
| 22:01.32 | znf | nevcairiel, I mean the baskets in which you go back to stealth |
| 22:01.40 | znf | and they detect you while in the basket |
| 22:01.52 | foxlit | on a brighter note, the small minion elementals/owls no longer detect you |
| 22:01.56 | nevcairiel | if you're out of stealth anyway, just kill them guards |
| 22:02.26 | foxlit | the detector descriptions mentions them seeing through stealth as well. |
| 22:02.54 | foxlit | maybe it's prescient instead of a liar. |
| 22:03.29 | znf | the baskets are usually in crowded areas |
| 22:04.55 | znf | and that usually pulls like 4-5 extra mobs :-S |
| 22:05.10 | nevcairiel | i am a big battle bear, i just swipe them away |
| 22:06.41 | foxlit | Broll is having a small competition with himself on how to be the most annoying bodyguard possible. |
| 22:08.00 | nevcairiel | i detest broll, he is so annoying |
| 22:08.17 | nevcairiel | i use mylune now because I like having a zoo of critters behind me at all times |
| 22:08.37 | nevcairiel | but naralax or whatshisface is probably the best choice, a simple button with a useful effect |
| 22:08.54 | foxlit | The current patch broke his stealth animation, so now he non-chalantly walks through mobs, who see through this feeble attempt at subterfuge and promptly put you in combat. |
| 22:09.12 | nevcairiel | so its not only his animation thats broken? |
| 22:09.28 | foxlit | nah, he's still stealthed. |
| 22:09.56 | nevcairiel | in any case i'm a tank myself, i really dont need a tanking companion |
| 22:10.11 | nevcairiel | i dont suppose the resto champion is a healing companion, eh? |
| 22:10.21 | foxlit | no, broll is the only bodyguard |
| 22:10.35 | foxlit | It just seems weaker than feral stealth; maybe equivalent to your bear's attempts at stealthing past things. |
| 22:10.38 | nevcairiel | at least two others have the zone companion functionality, just no perma guards |
| 22:10.43 | foxlit | (AI pathing does not help) |
| 22:11.06 | foxlit | A few patches ago he decided to stop shapeshifting to bear. |
| 22:11.23 | nevcairiel | i hope they made those guardian taunts stop taunting world bosses already |
| 22:11.27 | nevcairiel | that was so un-fun |
| 22:11.44 | foxlit | lies, breath-roulettte is where it's at. |
| 22:11.59 | nevcairiel | did the dragon in valsharah i take it |
| 22:12.03 | nevcairiel | that was glorious |
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| 22:12.36 | nevcairiel | in related news, i'm sad i dont get to see the full animation of dreamwalk myself |
| 22:12.41 | nevcairiel | the conclusion looks neat |
| 22:16.15 | foxlit | mm, worth delaying that loading screen for a few seconds. |
| 22:16.35 | nevcairiel | well only like a couple milliseconds =p |
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| 22:17.50 | nevcairiel | when it lags a bit you can see it almost entirely |
| 22:18.52 | Tentacled | Hmm. That guy "Michael"'s question about rotating models - I dug a bit into custom cameras, and with the currently available custom cameras it's possible to kinda rotate the model in x and z, by positioning the camera around or above/below the model, or applying roll. Interesting. |
| 22:19.19 | nevcairiel | isnt that what the paperdoll frame already allows |
| 22:20.53 | Tentacled | It didn't use to allow camera roll and target and position, |
| 22:23.30 | foxlit | I'm kind of sad the travel form glyph disappeared |
| 22:23.32 | Tentacled | Actually, target and position were in. Roll wasn't. |
| 22:24.00 | nevcairiel | foxlit: which one |
| 22:24.04 | nevcairiel | faster running? |
| 22:24.06 | foxlit | 100% speed. |
| 22:24.11 | nevcairiel | yeah thats a shame |
| 22:24.16 | nevcairiel | they also outright said its not coming back |
| 22:24.30 | nevcairiel | travel form is practically useless now |
| 22:28.44 | Simca | yeah, Tentacled; you could simulate roll by 'rolling' the model itself |
| 22:28.57 | Simca | but only up to certain degrees |
| 22:29.12 | Simca | and it didn't work at all for some models - they needed to have certain flags enabled |
| 22:30.14 | foxlit | 'call 0xffffffffe9abecd7' << meh, that seems bad. |
| 22:30.41 | nevcairiel | that seems odd if anything |
| 22:31.05 | nevcairiel | how do you get a function ptr with a relatively large negative address |
| 22:32.39 | foxlit | by adding a sign-extended offset to rip. |
| 22:32.49 | nevcairiel | i suppose |
| 22:33.19 | nevcairiel | but unless you're dealing in hand-written asm there, compilers should hopefully not make such mistakes |
| 22:36.03 | TheDanW | Tentacled: there's now a model:SetTransform() function on model frames that lets you pretty much arbitrarily set the world matrix on a model |
| 22:38.23 | Semlar | does what now |
| 22:38.35 | Semlar | camera stuff? |
| 22:38.58 | Neffi | Semlar: have you already thought of how to break it? |
| 22:39.36 | Semlar | it's not my fault neffi |
| 22:40.05 | Neffi | I know Semlar, you were born this way |
| 22:40.13 | TheDanW | yeah, it overrides camera settings and lets you control the model in world space directly |
| 22:40.25 | TheDanW | if you really need that kind of control |
| 22:40.26 | foxlit | nevcairiel: I'm inclined to think it's an interpretation problem on my end; maybe it's misaligned or x32 instead of x64. |
| 22:41.33 | Tentacled | TheDanW: interesting. It's not used anywhere in the default UI, which leaves its parameters a mystery... |
| 22:41.48 | Semlar | its parameters are a matrix |
| 22:42.06 | foxlit | (does having 32-bit segments even make sense in an ordinarily 64-bit binary?) |
| 22:42.12 | Tentacled | Only that? 9 numbers? |
| 22:43.32 | Tentacled | (I'm not so sure, since giving it 1,0,0, 0,1,0, 0,0,1 should result in no change, and yet I find my model totally thrown off-window) |
| 22:44.31 | TheDanW | it's slightly more restricted since matrix manipulation isn't that fun in lua |
| 22:44.36 | TheDanW | try: translateX, translateY, translateZ, rotationX, rotationY, rotationZ, scale |
| 22:45.30 | Semlar | there's also SetPitch and SetRoll |
| 22:46.06 | Tentacled | I think any transformation can be done either using SetTransform() or a set of SetCameraPosition/Roll. |
| 22:46.34 | TheDanW | yup |
| 22:46.53 | Semlar | speaking of which, why isn't there a C_TransmogCollection function to return the "appearanceID" of an item link directly |
| 22:47.20 | Simca | Tentacled / TheDanW those commands only work if model:HasCustomCamera(), yes? |
| 22:47.35 | Semlar | or get the sourceID of an item link |
| 22:47.58 | Simca | for example, if you take an ordinary gameobject, 90% of the time, it does not have a custom camera and won't support you giving it one |
| 22:48.12 | Semlar | the camera functions only work if it has a custom camera, you can call SetPitch and Roll on anything |
| 22:48.27 | TheDanW | Simca: once SetTransform() is set the model will ignore any camera values, it does not require a custom camera |
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| 22:48.47 | Simca | hmm, i see |
| 22:48.54 | Tentacled | Wow. Now if only we could load custom models... :P |
| 22:49.05 | TheDanW | additionally, in Legion you can use model:MakeCurrentCameraCustom() to copy the current camera into a new custom one |
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| 22:51.21 | Simca | maybe i should switch from playing with the camera to transforming the model then, if it works in all the cases when camera transformations fail |
| 22:53.30 | Simca | i had to consider cases where custom cameras aren't supported for everything, even zooming |
| 22:59.01 | Simca | are the values for :SetTransform relative (to last position/rotation/scale) or absolute (to original position/rotation/scale) |
| 23:06.36 | TheDanW | absolute |
| 23:06.59 | Simca | thanks |
| 23:10.30 | Tentacled | http://pastebin.com/43USUVBk Admit it, you've always wanted more tentacles in your life. |
| 23:15.14 | TheDanW | what have i done |
| 23:15.22 | Tentacled | Mwahaha. |
| 23:17.13 | Tentacled | w |
| 23:18.02 | Semlar | tries to calm tentacled down |
| 23:18.54 | Tentacled | wiggles around in all 3 axes. |
| 23:19.18 | NodusCursorius | That's as many axes as a dwarf would wield. Are you a dwarf?! |
| 23:20.21 | Tentacled | bombards Nodus with vertices and radices. The latter isn't a vegetable. |
| 23:20.31 | NodusCursorius | Tentacled, http://pinso.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Pinso-Creative-Know-How-Hin%C3%A9-Mizushima-Ax-Wielding-Octopus-21.jpg |
| 23:20.36 | NodusCursorius | No. This is you now. Accept it. |
| 23:20.56 | Tentacled | I embrace this entirely. <3 |
| 23:21.04 | NodusCursorius | :D |
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| 23:23.07 | NodusCursorius | I tried to cyberstalk Tentacled and I honestly should have known better. |
| 23:25.15 | NodusCursorius | But at great cost to myself, I can confirm that there is tentacle hentai of demonic versions of My Little Pony where the way an eyeball was drawn "irced"[sic] annoyance in them. |
| 23:36.40 | bshelden | This feels like an appropriate time for that gif of grandpa simpson walking into a building, looping around, and walking right back out... |
| 23:39.58 | Mr_Rabies | wHAT |
| 23:42.59 | nevcairiel | Tentacled: i left you some comments =p |
