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| 01:48.13 | nimhfree | has the Blizzard web API become off limits to the general public? i.e., is there a special process one needs to use to be able to use it now? |
| 01:48.38 | nebula | ..no? |
| 01:48.57 | nebula | oh, web api, derp |
| 01:49.12 | nebula | you can create an api key and use it |
| 01:49.22 | nebula | https://dev.battle.net/ |
| 01:50.25 | nimhfree | thanks. that should do it |
| 02:01.31 | Torhal | Did you manage to kill off Amarande without announcing it to the channel, mckenziemc? |
| 02:02.02 | Torhal | I just realized that I haven't wanted to quit this channel in frustration for quite some time now. |
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| 02:04.22 | mckenziemc | what happens if i claim i did but then it becomes evident i didn't? i need to know all my options |
| 02:05.55 | Neffi | mckenziemc: Torhal will bury you in a mountain of cat hair |
| 02:06.14 | Neffi | and also throw away your allergy pills! |
| 02:06.24 | Torhal | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 02:06.33 | mckenziemc | coats Neffi with urushiol. |
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| 02:07.09 | mckenziemc | now you're all lacquered up |
| 02:07.16 | Neffi | well, I'm died |
| 02:07.30 | Torhal | Oh, noes. Neffi is kill. |
| 02:07.35 | NodusCursorius | quits Torhal |
| 02:08.14 | mckenziemc | worse than death, Neffi |
| 02:08.23 | mckenziemc | far worse |
| 02:09.13 | Torhal | Thanks, NodusCursorius. For a moment I was afraid you'd start singing "I can't quit you, Torhal" |
| 02:10.57 | NodusCursorius | I haven't been afraid to be honest after our divorce, now that I'm out of arm's reach |
| 02:11.30 | Torhal | Oh, dear. You seem to have quit your meds. |
| 02:13.10 | NodusCursorius | I still take the Bedronczine. There's just no longer a morning routine to taste-test the oatmeal you prepared "to show how much" you "loved me". |
| 02:14.06 | Torhal | I think this is what people are referring to when they say "Awkward." |
| 02:14.28 | mckenziemc | Torhalnor I miss you \ Torhalnor be well \ Torhalnor I wish you'd release me from your spell |
| 02:15.08 | NodusCursorius | That gives an automatic country music vibe, mckenziemc |
| 02:15.20 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 02:15.25 | Torhal | With autotune. |
| 02:15.27 | NodusCursorius | Is Torhal your strawberry wine? |
| 02:16.07 | mckenziemc | not country, but i still wish i hadn't bought the CD |
| 02:16.59 | NodusCursorius | Who is the artist? |
| 02:17.41 | mckenziemc | http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/l/low_millions/eleanor.html |
| 02:19.30 | NodusCursorius | It's like visiting 1998 without actually getting off the bus. |
| 02:23.41 | NodusCursorius | Today is now Smashing Pumpkins. |
| 02:24.15 | mckenziemc | better than Yesterday |
| 02:24.17 | Mr_Rabies | speaking of, there's an anime airing this season that uses savage garden for its ending theme and it still blows my mind a bit when i hear it |
| 02:24.24 | mckenziemc | #notabeatlesfan |
| 02:24.51 | Mr_Rabies | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYts4ijuBi8 |
| 02:27.02 | NodusCursorius | Mr_Rabies, oh my god. |
| 02:27.40 | NodusCursorius | It's like a mixture of surprise, confusion, recognition, terror, and intrigue. |
| 02:27.52 | NodusCursorius | I'm feeling so many feelings, knowing and seeing this. |
| 02:28.18 | Mr_Rabies | they also used walk like an egyptian and roundabout for previous seasons' ending themes |
| 02:28.35 | Mr_Rabies | and last train home but i don't think anyone really knows pat methany |
| 02:29.15 | Mr_Rabies | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV_CwCTOOMI |
| 02:37.48 | mckenziemc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CTYymbbEL4 |
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| 03:20.43 | Semlar | torhal |
| 03:20.59 | Semlar | my car window is more broken than usual |
| 03:21.21 | Semlar | it rolls down but not up |
| 03:21.36 | Semlar | this is actually worse than it not working at all |
| 03:21.57 | Semlar | because now it's stuck open |
| 03:22.13 | Random | lalal |
| 03:22.14 | Torhal | Just melt some plastic over the opening. |
| 03:22.24 | Random | i always forget this irc server exists |
| 03:23.09 | Semlar | i took my door apart and it turns out the window motor is mounted with rivets that you can't remove |
| 03:23.28 | Semlar | so you can't actually take the motor out of the door without cutting the rivets |
| 03:24.08 | Semlar | so i took the jack out of the trunk and applied it to the bottom of the window |
| 03:24.22 | pompy | http://www.amazon.com/Air-Capital-Rivet-Removal-65007/dp/B004APCEZU ;) |
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| 03:25.32 | Semlar | i'm not entirely sure what i broke with the jack, probably the motor |
| 03:25.57 | Semlar | anyway, i can pull the window up now but don't have any way to keep it up |
| 03:26.14 | kd3 | wedge something under the glass to keep it up? |
| 03:26.15 | Semlar | maybe i can stick a block of wood in there |
| 03:26.27 | Semlar | i need something under the window to keep it from sliding down |
| 03:27.16 | Semlar | maybe i'll just leave the door panel off so i can pull the block out if i want to roll the window down |
| 03:28.29 | Semlar | i figure at a certain point my car will run out of things that can break on it |
| 03:28.59 | Semlar | it'll reach an equilibrium |
| 03:29.43 | Semlar | at that point it'll never need maintenance |
| 03:31.49 | Semlar | i actually didn't think my window could get any more broken than "not working at all" |
| 03:32.00 | Semlar | but this is definitely worse |
| 03:44.32 | mckenziemc | drill a hole in the window and insert a peg! |
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| 07:24.00 | xqo | hi is this macro valid? if shift is held, roar of sacrifice mouseover; otherwise cast as normal (targets player) https://bpaste.net/show/e54692bd4b10 |
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| 08:11.31 | VIad | you can also use the shortcut notation |
| 08:11.52 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:12.31 | VIad | bit unsure if exists is needed, though I'd probably instead use help to check if I can cast on it :p |
| 08:12.51 | VIad | if you chain [][][] it's like a "or" statement |
| 08:12.59 | VIad | if one of those, then do spell |
| 08:13.28 | VIad | if the last is empty it will prioritize the first, but if invalid, then defaults to just using it as if you clicked the spell directly |
| 08:13.32 | VIad | xqo: |
| 08:14.48 | xqo | vlad your macro never finds a target |
| 08:15.30 | xqo | wait.. |
| 08:16.44 | nebula | by default with no target the cursor will change to select it |
| 08:17.07 | nebula | with [] |
| 08:17.48 | xqo | the modifier works, the default action needs a [target=player]? |
| 08:18.11 | xqo | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:18.12 | xqo | ? |
| 08:18.43 | VIad | nebula: help ^ |
| 08:20.15 | nebula | xqo: would put the empty at the end, but looks fine otherwise |
| 08:20.32 | nebula | but really, it's not needed |
| 08:20.43 | nevcairiel | empty needs to be at the end, or it takes precedence |
| 08:21.09 | nebula | i guess it would catch mod with no mouseover target |
| 08:21.41 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:22.07 | nebula | he did say he wanted it to self cast otherwise |
| 08:22.11 | VIad | right |
| 08:22.23 | VIad | [] will default to behavior like |
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| 08:25.11 | VIad | like if you push a button and it asks for target, that behavior will remain |
| 08:25.25 | VIad | like if you dont have the "smart self target" enabled :p |
| 08:25.38 | VIad | in that case you'd probably have to expand on the [] |
| 08:27.49 | xqo | I'm confused |
| 08:28.14 | nebula | juts use what you had but put the [] at the end :p |
| 08:29.14 | xqo | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:29.15 | xqo | like so? |
| 08:29.52 | nebula | yar |
| 08:30.40 | xqo | thanks! |
| 08:43.51 | VIad | nebula: if you skip the [] at the end, what happens in his macro? :p |
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| 08:45.55 | VIad | nevcairiel: just a quickie before I start to struggle later tonight. I was thinking to show icons on the azeroth map (-1, same as the cosmic map) but I guess that is out of scope of HBD? |
| 08:46.45 | VIad | considering its one of those hacky map kind of deals. like to show icons while viewing azeroth for stuff in the sub continents and their zones |
| 08:46.52 | nebula | VIad: if you hold alt and hit it without a target, nothing |
| 08:51.20 | VIad | :d |
| 08:56.59 | nevcairiel | VIad: continent maps are not supported since the mapping of the positioning from a continent to the cosmic/azeroth map is not data the game provides and would require guess-work |
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| 09:16.28 | VIad | yeah thats what I thought |
| 09:17.05 | nevcairiel | the highest you can get is the individual continents, so EK or Kalimdor, but not Azeroth |
| 09:17.13 | VIad | jupp |
| 09:17.29 | VIad | the summer event is soon here, they didnt add any bonfires to the latest expansions I guess? |
| 09:17.37 | VIad | event seems untouched for some years now |
| 09:17.54 | VIad | think mop got like a couple bonfires only, but unsure if wod will get any :p |
| 09:18.20 | nevcairiel | they updated christmas and halloween only for wod i think |
| 09:18.43 | Miiru | halloween always was my favourite event until the event overhaul |
| 09:19.11 | Miiru | im hoarding jack-o-lanterns to throw them at people outside of the event :D |
| 09:19.28 | Miiru | i remember that at the time addons werent able to right click buffs off |
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| 09:24.03 | VIad | considering legion is released past the event, probably no summer related content this year in the broken isles |
| 09:24.13 | VIad | I guess I just need to keep an eye out for draenor bonfires |
| 09:24.17 | VIad | dont remember any last year though |
| 09:36.45 | Miiru | lol |
| 09:36.49 | Miiru | If you are in the market for toys, take a minute to educate yourself about products that have been recalled by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) by clicking here. This information is provided for all listings in this category, and it in no way implies anything about the item you are currently bidding on. |
| 09:36.56 | Miiru | cliks on here |
| 09:37.00 | Miiru | gets a 404 |
| 09:37.56 | Miiru | so is there any word yet about all that exclusive garrison stuff if it is gonna be available somewhere else? |
| 09:38.00 | Miiru | like that gron mount |
| 09:38.11 | Miiru | or the mount from the shipyard |
| 09:38.12 | Miiru | etc |
| 09:38.23 | nevcairiel | it'll probably remain where it is now |
| 09:38.28 | nevcairiel | want some gron mounts? i have a couple =p |
| 09:38.31 | Miiru | ok that would be nice |
| 09:38.33 | Miiru | i have 2 |
| 09:38.40 | Miiru | like 6 i think |
| 09:38.57 | Miiru | i hoarded like 30 rattling cages cos maybe the will become boe same day XD |
| 09:39.04 | nevcairiel | we have made a game out of stockpiling left sharks in the guild bank |
| 09:39.18 | Miiru | ah i deleted most of them left sharks |
| 09:39.19 | nevcairiel | fills an entire tab nowe i think |
| 09:46.55 | Infus | sounds like only one or two players then... |
| 09:47.29 | nevcairiel | yeah not sure how many actually contributed =p |
| 09:47.33 | nevcairiel | might just be a few |
| 09:48.18 | Stanzilla | we all send ours to one guy in the guild |
| 09:48.29 | Stanzilla | all cinder puppies, left shark, the bag with the boa trinket |
| 09:48.31 | Stanzilla | everything |
| 09:49.29 | nevcairiel | to troll him? |
| 09:51.17 | Stanzilla | kinda, he now collects them in a guild bank, too :D |
| 09:51.43 | nevcairiel | the heirloom bag is annoying because you cant even auction it off |
| 09:52.17 | Stanzilla | yup |
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| 10:38.01 | VIad | nevcairiel: yeah, wonder why that is tbh |
| 10:53.23 | NuSuey | Predicate: hey sorry I was away yesterday.. and for me the arcticum connection patch didn't work..well maybe I've done it wrong :) |
| 10:53.31 | NuSuey | oh .. so many player online >.< https://steamdb.info/app/376570/graphs/ |
| 10:53.36 | karl_w_w | http://sydney.craigslist.com.au/for/5621643238.html |
| 10:53.51 | Gnarfoz | NuSuey: uhm it released on Steam... today? |
| 10:54.01 | karl_w_w | country starts falling into the sea, aussie makes great joke about it |
| 10:54.02 | NuSuey | I know.. just joking :D |
| 10:55.28 | NuSuey | I wonder if they have a client for updates or steam does their updates too.. guess the lazy first way? |
| 10:56.04 | Gnarfoz | "implementing your own" doesn't sound lazy |
| 10:56.23 | Gnarfoz | also, what makes you think they just threw their own launcher/updater they've had for 3 years away? |
| 10:56.38 | Gnarfoz | (and I don't think Steam is the only way to play now, so surely, it will continue to exist?) |
| 10:56.40 | NuSuey | but the great thing about steam that it auto-updates your game.. instead of.. oh i wanna play this and seeing as you need to download 10gigs |
| 10:56.49 | nevcairiel | well it kind of is the lazy way to just make steam a launcher for your own launcher =p |
| 10:56.56 | Gnarfoz | wow, 4 minute download :O |
| 10:57.05 | NuSuey | Gnarfoz: shush |
| 10:57.06 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 10:57.57 | Gnarfoz | that should only happen every couple of months anyway |
| 10:59.53 | NuSuey | well need to test it or google it if they do indeed use just their launcher :) |
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| 11:01.26 | Gnarfoz | hm? |
| 11:01.36 | Gnarfoz | I can't English right now |
| 11:01.36 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 11:02.36 | NuSuey | nvm :D |
| 11:03.47 | Gnarfoz | I'm more interested if Steam will recognize my existing install |
| 11:07.02 | Gnarfoz | Steam has its own non-totp authenticator app? |
| 11:07.05 | Gnarfoz | why do people do that... |
| 11:08.41 | Gnarfoz | the Steam store runs on Valve time, it seems (should have been obvious) |
| 11:08.49 | Gnarfoz | can't actually install Wildstar over it, yet |
| 11:09.23 | NuSuey | maybe its not out yet (thought its out already) |
| 11:09.49 | Gnarfoz | should be today - but it's still o-dark-hundred in 'murica |
| 11:09.57 | Gnarfoz | 2016-06-09 |
| 11:10.33 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: "We needed to create our own two-factor authenticator because we need to show users the contents of the trade on a separate device and have them confirm it there. Requiring users to take a code from a generic authenticator and enter it into a hijacked PC to confirm a trade meant that hackers could trick them into trading away items they didn't intend to. This basically made it impossible to use a generic third party authenticator, such as Google |
| 11:10.34 | foxlit | Authenticator, to confirm trades." |
| 11:10.55 | Gnarfoz | to confirm trades? |
| 11:11.05 | Gnarfoz | I guess... if that's what they want to secure, not the login |
| 11:11.26 | Gnarfoz | good point, though, same applies for online banking |
| 11:21.13 | nevcairiel | i think TAN systems confirm the transaction the TAN is associateed with as well |
| 11:21.26 | nevcairiel | at least my mobile tan does, not sure if such chip-tan devices do |
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| 12:08.02 | VIad | foxlit: if the login site shows a QR, you scan it with the phone, it confirms it, spits out a code, you enter that code and confirm |
| 12:08.50 | VIad | I mean that is my take on the text |
| 12:09.07 | VIad | today you just see a code box, you enter your code in it, done |
| 12:09.46 | VIad | meanwhile on phone banking they send me a specific keyword/phrase and it is also shown on the page where I login, so I can confirm if its legit, before entering my pin :p |
| 12:09.52 | karl_w_w | https://gfycat.com/PlushEvilAsiaticlesserfreshwaterclam |
| 12:09.53 | VIad | to avoid fake login screens |
| 12:10.21 | VIad | karl_w_w: high tech |
| 12:11.01 | karl_w_w | trouble is, in australia almost all plastic bottles don't have straight sides |
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| 12:35.27 | Predicate | Y'all live in the future. Here my bank requires a username and password, and occasionally asks for my mother's maiden name just in case. |
| 12:35.44 | Gnarfoz | that sounds distinctively US-y |
| 12:36.10 | Predicate | Quite. But hey, we got chips on our cards recently! Not that anywhere has chip readers... |
| 12:37.13 | Gnarfoz | welcome to the last millenium |
| 12:38.08 | NodusCursorius | A terrible case of irony. Financial gluttony and insufficient means to secure it. |
| 12:38.38 | NodusCursorius | Like winning the award for fall off of a bicycle and another award for letting someone steal it while you were riding it. |
| 12:38.43 | Predicate | It's not irony, just consequence. People need to be able to spend as much as they want, as often as possible, with minimal hassle. |
| 12:39.03 | NodusCursorius | Chip readers are minimal hassle, so I don't buy that. |
| 12:39.28 | Predicate | Ah, but learning new technology is a hassle. Not to mention remembering a PIN, which is why we get chip/sig instead. |
| 12:39.58 | NodusCursorius | An entire generation with elbow marks on their knees. |
| 12:45.21 | Gnarfoz | at least you're migrating to last century tech now, instead of next century |
| 12:45.49 | Gnarfoz | but you'll probably also be using cheques for the foreseeable future |
| 12:46.06 | Gnarfoz | US banking is just so... odd, from an outside perspective |
| 12:46.23 | Gnarfoz | (I'm including "payment ecosystem" in "banking" here) |
| 12:47.09 | PhatsoTGT | fast round |
| 12:47.26 | PhatsoTGT | events to hook Honor Display Update to? |
| 12:50.22 | karl_w_w | um |
| 12:50.41 | karl_w_w | I don't think there is one |
| 12:54.07 | PhatsoTGT | theres CHAT_MSG_CURRENCY |
| 13:02.04 | VIad | in norway we have SIM cards for the phones that come with certain chip functionality to allow your phone to act as an authenticator with your bank |
| 13:03.35 | VIad | the network provider has the built in functionality in their net to allow this chip to function. basically its running a SIM program that can receive data from the provider, like when you login to your bank, and you can confirm a phrase to make sure its coming from the bank page as well, then enter your pin in your phone, and send it back, the provider will send a confirmation to your bank and you login |
| 13:03.52 | Gnarfoz | SIM... EMV? |
| 13:03.53 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 13:04.10 | VIad | to set it up you go through a small setup phase where you enter your pin a couple of times and confirm, probably some keys being transfered over the net as well |
| 13:04.12 | VIad | sim-card |
| 13:04.50 | Gnarfoz | the question was: what does mobile networking have to do with using cards in a shop :D |
| 13:04.50 | VIad | yes probably |
| 13:04.54 | VIad | oh no |
| 13:05.00 | VIad | I was talking about authenticators |
| 13:05.04 | VIad | further up the log :< |
| 13:05.33 | Gnarfoz | that you were |
| 13:12.53 | VIad | but the bank auth over phone seems limited to banks only |
| 13:13.07 | VIad | unlike google where 3rd parties can borrow their system and such |
| 13:13.31 | VIad | aren't sim cards and the chip on the bank card like the same thing? |
| 13:13.42 | VIad | or other auth cards you scan to open your office door |
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| 13:20.11 | Gnarfoz | the latter are just rfid tokens in most cases, so they're out |
| 13:20.39 | Gnarfoz | the UICC is a smart card with a processor, and so is the EMV chip |
| 13:21.16 | VIad | neato |
| 13:21.28 | VIad | NFC is just the method of scanning right? |
| 13:21.31 | VIad | like protocol |
| 13:21.54 | VIad | because the card I use to open the door us a NFC based card, but the chip inside is probably RFID and not EMV? |
| 13:22.10 | VIad | or are all NFC RFIDs? |
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| 13:30.22 | VIad | I just NFC scanned my bank card from DnB |
| 13:30.45 | VIad | it says it's a type A, IEC 14443 cad made in france |
| 13:31.05 | VIad | it has 4 applications installed on it |
| 13:34.52 | Miiru | 1.snake |
| 13:34.55 | Miiru | 2.tinder |
| 13:35.56 | VIad | 3.twitter |
| 13:37.42 | Phixion | 4. linkedin |
| 13:38.01 | nevcairiel | isnt tinder a snake-related app? |
| 13:38.03 | nevcairiel | hides |
| 13:38.20 | Miiru | touché |
| 13:40.50 | PhatsoTGT | btw |
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| 14:12.30 | karl_w_w | yes it is nevcairiel, he's thinking of grindr |
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| 15:23.13 | VIad | RIP :'( "Create social circles with friends that have shared interests, and form the perfect group to play your way." |
| 15:24.51 | nevcairiel | no social circles for you |
| 15:25.14 | VIad | that was like the one feature I was looking for |
| 15:25.22 | VIad | because you get friends on many different games on bnet |
| 15:25.52 | VIad | like I got several diablo friends I only diablo with, so I'd liketo put them in my "diablo" labeled circle :< |
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| 15:35.21 | mckenziemc | offers VIad a pen and some paper. |
| 15:36.54 | Gnarfoz | "circles" which other mmo do I know that from? hmmm... Wildstar :D |
| 15:37.11 | nevcairiel | sounds like it didnt make it either way =p |
| 15:39.06 | Gnarfoz | oh? |
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| 16:13.30 | VIad | I guess facebook was more important |
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| 16:28.21 | zenzelezz | VIad: what kind of card does it say it is? DESFire, Mifare of some sort, something else? |
| 16:28.55 | VIad | something else |
| 16:29.23 | zenzelezz | interesting |
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| 17:35.22 | Miiru | https://scontent.ftxl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13240007_10153693247971984_629203388714282308_n.jpg?oh=607dd65c1e0f0529cfa272a869c35ed9&oe=57D8E87A |
| 17:35.25 | Miiru | *.* |
| 17:36.04 | Miiru | wait wheres the invasion realm oO |
| 17:36.33 | fewyn | Anyone happen to do meal prep? |
| 17:37.41 | VIad | Miiru: gz |
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| 17:38.34 | Ressy | It was supposed to be up like 40 mins ago |
| 17:38.38 | Ressy | Was hoping to play during my lunch. |
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| 17:39.22 | Miiru | mhm is that Quest 'Survey says...' based on #Computer says...' ? :D |
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| 17:42.30 | Seerah | Miiru: Family Feud? |
| 17:43.26 | Miiru | only know that one in german version :D |
| 17:46.13 | Miiru | anyone noticed the darkwing duck refference? |
| 17:48.23 | kd3 | ah, that would explain why I haven't heard anything about it... |
| 17:48.37 | kd3 | (at work, my work laptop doesn't have enough oomph to handle legion) |
| 17:48.47 | VIad | who are the darkwing ducks? |
| 17:50.15 | mckenziemc | sounds familiar; check google |
| 17:50.17 | mckenziemc | ;) |
| 17:53.05 | VIad | I don't know where it was referenced, and I am too lazy to look up what darkwing duck is :( |
| 17:53.33 | VIad | sounds like a meme |
| 17:53.33 | Torhal | s/ to look up what darkwing duck is// |
| 17:53.41 | Ressy | seriously? |
| 17:53.43 | Ressy | Geez.. |
| 17:53.53 | Ressy | That was one of the coolest cartoons when I was growing up. |
| 17:54.00 | Miiru | !! |
| 17:54.15 | VIad | sorry if I was being mean to your childhood |
| 17:54.29 | Ressy | :P |
| 17:54.35 | VIad | I didn't watch much tv when I was that small |
| 17:54.57 | VIad | at some point I did a 180 turn from outdoors to the chair in front of the computer :p |
| 17:55.48 | Ressy | My dad was disabled. So he'd pick me up from the bus dropoff, make me lunch, and we'd sit and watch cartoons for a while together |
| 17:56.05 | Gnarfoz | pro dad |
| 17:56.14 | VIad | is he still around? |
| 17:56.20 | Ressy | Yeah. More disabled. |
| 17:56.24 | VIad | :( |
| 17:59.21 | VIad | Ressy: <3 |
| 17:59.40 | kd3 | legion test reschuled to 2pm pdt (3 hours from now) |
| 17:59.58 | Ressy | sweeeeeet |
| 18:00.04 | Gnarfoz | sooouuuur |
| 18:01.59 | Gnarfoz | http://time.is/1400_9_June_2016_in_PDT/CEST :( |
| 18:02.24 | VIad | there should be html5 tags to specify a UTC timestamp of sorts |
| 18:02.32 | VIad | so browsers can easily just "oh this is in your time: X" |
| 18:03.01 | VIad | so you could keep the text inside to what ever string you want to use, but the browser for people outside your timezone could easily convert it to their time - win |
| 18:03.31 | VIad | like https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Web/HTML/Element/time |
| 18:04.02 | Unkle | (Catching up) Darkwing Duck is the only part of Duck Tales that I actually *liked*. |
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| 18:25.00 | Gnarfoz | NuSuey: http://i.imgur.com/i24m0da.png |
| 18:25.13 | NuSuey | Gnarfoz: yeah, I'm downloading it :) |
| 18:25.35 | NuSuey | but thx :) |
| 18:27.35 | Gnarfoz | steam_wildstar.exe |
| 18:27.36 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 18:27.41 | Gnarfoz | also, "CoreData.archive" oO |
| 18:27.52 | Gnarfoz | my WS install only has ClientData |
| 18:28.06 | Gnarfoz | I guess it's too old to be used as a base for the Steam version |
| 18:29.28 | Gnarfoz | ver 13578 |
| 18:29.44 | Gnarfoz | haha "removing files"... I guess it's just starting over |
| 18:30.03 | Gnarfoz | not sure when I last started it |
| 18:30.04 | Unkle | It's a trap. |
| 18:32.57 | NuSuey | Gnarfoz: so they ARE using steam as the patch platform? :o |
| 18:33.12 | NuSuey | guess 16gig isnt just a launcher :p |
| 18:33.13 | Gnarfoz | NuSuey: well you can install it through it, that's all you and I know? :p |
| 18:33.18 | Gnarfoz | right |
| 18:33.25 | Gnarfoz | it is downloading the entire thing through it |
| 18:33.38 | NuSuey | 90 minutes:( |
| 18:33.39 | Gnarfoz | "the entire thing" is just 5 files or so anyway, Wildstar just has one huge archive file |
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| 19:23.53 | VIad | after a lot of overwatch |
| 19:24.00 | VIad | matchmaking sucks sweaty balls |
| 19:24.17 | VIad | queue solo? get matched vs a stack 4-6! your team has a stack too! but they suck, so too bad. |
| 19:24.35 | VIad | you got some new friends that want to play with you? sure! you get matched vs a nolifer stack of 4, gg you lost in 5 min |
| 19:24.49 | VIad | thats my games the last days, with friends or solo queue |
| 19:25.35 | Gnarfoz | wtf is a stack |
| 19:29.09 | Gnarfoz | NuSuey: hm, Steam left the huge file in the download folder but also put it in the common folder |
| 19:29.12 | Gnarfoz | steam is weird |
| 19:29.28 | Gnarfoz | ah, it removed it when I launched it |
| 19:30.32 | Semlar | okay neffi i propped my window up with a palm frond |
| 19:31.06 | Neffi | wat |
| 19:31.25 | Neffi | that's not what those are for Seerah |
| 19:31.28 | Neffi | Semlar* |
| 19:31.29 | Semlar | dammit seerah |
| 19:32.13 | Semlar | i'm not sure what the tensile strength is going to be like when it dries out |
| 19:32.21 | Semlar | it might end up snapping |
| 19:32.53 | Semlar | probably not from the window, but slamming the door or hitting a bump |
| 19:34.13 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.59 | Semlar | i know what some of these words mean |
| 19:36.41 | Gnarfoz | NuSuey: whuut, it's downloading it again :D |
| 19:36.49 | Gnarfoz | I think it's somewhat confused... |
| 19:38.04 | VIad | Gnarfoz: a stack is grouped people, like 4 people in a party coordinating |
| 19:38.20 | Gnarfoz | that's called a premade |
| 19:38.36 | VIad | and matchmaking is horrible |
| 19:38.36 | Gnarfoz | and solo-queuers shouldn't get matched against premades |
| 19:38.40 | VIad | oh sure you do |
| 19:38.45 | VIad | need to fill out those 1 man missing parties |
| 19:38.53 | VIad | like my team atm is 3+1+1+1 |
| 19:38.56 | VIad | theirs is 4+2 |
| 19:38.59 | VIad | 4+3* |
| 19:39.00 | Gnarfoz | how do you know? |
| 19:39.03 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't show you |
| 19:39.05 | VIad | 4+2 math >> |
| 19:39.07 | VIad | they told me |
| 19:39.52 | Gnarfoz | I haven't had any issues ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 19:40.42 | Gnarfoz | NuSuey: ... the steam thing starts my stand-alone install's launcher |
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| 19:40.59 | Gnarfoz | and steam got confused and after finishing the download now is downloading it once again :D |
| 19:42.57 | Gnarfoz | I replaced the new downloading file with the completed one, Steam doesn't care, just overwrote it and keeps downloading |
| 19:42.59 | Gnarfoz | works great! :D |
| 19:44.12 | VIad | I see people prestige level 40 atm |
| 19:44.15 | VIad | I am level 30 |
| 19:44.21 | VIad | >_> |
| 19:44.26 | VIad | need ranked match making |
| 19:44.30 | Gnarfoz | *140 |
| 19:44.36 | VIad | otherwise many like me just getting shit groups |
| 19:44.39 | VIad | going to loose interest |
| 19:44.43 | Gnarfoz | *lose |
| 19:45.00 | Gnarfoz | maybe you just need to git gud? :D |
| 19:48.15 | VIad | playing atm, hence typos |
| 19:48.22 | VIad | maybe game need to git gud at matchmaking |
| 19:48.28 | VIad | not even balancing out this game |
| 19:48.33 | VIad | I keep staying for 3 maps now, 4th soon |
| 19:48.37 | VIad | gamebalance just dont care |
| 19:49.38 | VIad | 30, 31, 54, 73, 91, 91, my team, vs their team 33 87 58 131 141 75 |
| 19:50.13 | VIad | if levels are the only thing blizz use to calculate, its horrible |
| 19:51.16 | Gnarfoz | you realize the "how many spraypaints does this person have" doesn't indicate their skill and isn't used for matchmaking? :p |
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| 19:52.59 | Gnarfoz | (apparently, you don't) |
| 20:00.34 | Guill | VIad: Isn't level in OW tied to time played, not skill level? Seems like having people of wildly different levels could still be a perfect match. |
| 20:00.51 | Gnarfoz | indeed, it's just a /played indicator :D |
| 20:01.36 | VIad | so playing a lot means you can still suck balls? what are the odds of that |
| 20:01.59 | VIad | you have to play like each night to get to level 150 today |
| 20:02.01 | kd3 | pretty high |
| 20:02.05 | VIad | meh |
| 20:02.06 | Gnarfoz | the odds of that are astronomical |
| 20:02.09 | Guill | VIad: There are a bunch of games I've put hundreds of hours in. I suck at every one of them. |
| 20:02.15 | VIad | sure |
| 20:02.20 | VIad | but meeting a team of high levels prestige |
| 20:02.24 | VIad | that crush you |
| 20:02.27 | VIad | and game dont care to rebalance |
| 20:02.35 | VIad | people leave, new people come in, you keep loosing |
| 20:02.40 | Gnarfoz | *losing |
| 20:02.47 | Guill | Maybe the matchmaker just believes in you more than you believe in yourself. |
| 20:02.52 | VIad | mind you I get gold medals on practically all I can get because I stay |
| 20:02.54 | VIad | maybe |
| 20:02.59 | VIad | maybe I should stop playing team heroes |
| 20:03.00 | Gnarfoz | you can just leave and re-queue, it indeed has a tendency to want to keep you playing against the same people |
| 20:03.04 | VIad | at first I picked reinhard |
| 20:03.07 | VIad | no one stood behind |
| 20:03.22 | Guill | Also, make sure you rate the game "-" after every round if you feel like it's super unbalanced |
| 20:03.22 | VIad | eventually I just what ever, played my fav hero, got POTG |
| 20:03.31 | VIad | like the up vote system |
| 20:03.34 | VIad | I guess its just ignored :p |
| 20:03.39 | VIad | placebo buttons |
| 20:03.41 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that, too, rate game negative |
| 20:03.51 | Gnarfoz | the commendations don't do anything, the rating system does |
| 20:03.53 | VIad | I do but doubt it actually works |
| 20:04.03 | Gnarfoz | works? it's feedback for Blizzard |
| 20:04.16 | VIad | on what basis? |
| 20:04.22 | VIad | it justs says I didnt enjoy it |
| 20:04.23 | Gnarfoz | on the basis of what you click? |
| 20:04.32 | Gnarfoz | yes, getting stomped is not enjoyable. :P |
| 20:04.32 | VIad | doesnt let me say because bad matchmaking |
| 20:04.46 | Gnarfoz | why would it, let them figure out why games were rated bad |
| 20:05.09 | VIad | only fun I had this week was playing with people that actually played good |
| 20:05.15 | VIad | we played a team and picked heroes |
| 20:05.16 | Guill | I believe having lots of people rate a match "-" also decreases the chance of a rematch (and the reverse for "+"). |
| 20:05.18 | VIad | accordingly |
| 20:05.28 | Guill | Though I heard that from reddit, not internally, so take it with a grain of salt :P |
| 20:05.33 | VIad | and game matches you against a lot of split up smaller groups, and they got roflstomped |
| 20:05.51 | VIad | if you play solid 6 vs smaller groups |
| 20:05.55 | VIad | they got less communication, they loose |
| 20:05.56 | Kesava | was the demon invasion event perhaps postponed again |
| 20:05.57 | VIad | lose* |
| 20:06.03 | VIad | Kesava: 1 more hour |
| 20:06.04 | Gnarfoz | Kesava: it was |
| 20:06.06 | Kesava | i see |
| 20:06.12 | Gnarfoz | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20745135217?page=8#160 |
| 20:06.18 | VIad | oh again |
| 20:06.19 | VIad | nvm |
| 20:06.26 | VIad | someone told me some hours ago its at 23 my time |
| 20:06.28 | VIad | its 22 atm |
| 20:06.29 | Gnarfoz | no, 1 hour is correct |
| 20:06.37 | VIad | oh ok, so its still valid |
| 20:06.44 | VIad | postponed again I thought like since the last 2 hours |
| 20:06.46 | Gnarfoz | or at least is the latest post |
| 20:07.04 | VIad | I wonder why they postpone the event |
| 20:07.08 | VIad | and why only let it be live for 24 h |
| 20:07.10 | Gnarfoz | (I guess he was asking because according the the previous schedule, it should be running now) |
| 20:08.09 | Kesava | yeah i was expecting it to be up, but also i just got a beta patch |
| 20:08.13 | Kesava | so i'm guessing that's for this |
| 20:08.53 | kd3 | they pushed the event to 51 minutes from now |
| 20:09.19 | Stanzilla | they just pushed a new build |
| 20:09.24 | Ressy | I'm hoping boss lets us go early today, and I can get munchkin & home and get into the event. :D |
| 20:09.24 | VIad | I literally joined 5 people, instant left me when the game started :D |
| 20:09.26 | kd3 | gack |
| 20:10.25 | VIad | like 2 times |
| 20:10.27 | Gnarfoz | Ressy: it'll just be postponed again! :D |
| 20:10.33 | VIad | -75% xp penalty |
| 20:10.35 | VIad | oh the horrors |
| 20:10.35 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: huh? but I'm online |
| 20:10.51 | Gnarfoz | VIad: they just put up a post detailing when you get leaver penalty |
| 20:10.54 | Ressy | Gnarfoz: Shhh.. Don't say that. :P |
| 20:10.59 | Gnarfoz | it shouldn't give you a penalty for leaving 2 games. |
| 20:11.16 | VIad | it should penalize leaving behavior more than just -75% xp |
| 20:11.21 | VIad | like low prio queue |
| 20:11.24 | VIad | long waiting times |
| 20:11.28 | Gnarfoz | you have the worst ideas |
| 20:11.40 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: that does not prevent them from pushing builds :D |
| 20:12.09 | Gnarfoz | could mean anything, push? put on cdn? release to launcher? client? server? :D |
| 20:12.22 | Stanzilla | full push |
| 20:12.34 | Gnarfoz | half-full push astern! |
| 20:12.35 | Stanzilla | 200mb |
| 20:13.55 | VIad | I like dota low prio queue, really hurt leavers |
| 20:29.27 | VIad | aside of wow, the only enjoyable game is hearthstone :p |
| 20:29.41 | VIad | that can be competitive but still chill to play |
| 20:37.19 | VIad | the transmog event gear, will it be possible to collect all of it? |
| 20:37.36 | VIad | or is it like you have to focus on one piece, unless you want to farm each day or something |
| 20:43.03 | Gnarfoz | you can find out in 18 minutes |
| 20:43.35 | VIad | its too late for me :( |
| 20:43.41 | VIad | bed time, work tomorrow |
| 20:43.50 | VIad | thats how usually all beta events go for me :p |
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| 20:54.26 | kd3 | those of you not in the beta and are interested in watching a tetris grand master stream (as seen in GDQs)... https://www.twitch.tv/tc_qlex |
| 20:58.02 | kd3 | (hint - get your mind blown) |
| 21:04.55 | Gnarfoz | invasion realm is up, btw |
| 21:12.22 | Gnarfoz | NuSuey: so steam downloads an archive that is then fed to the regular wildstar launcher, which uses it as a data source (instead of downloading the files itself) |
| 21:12.43 | Gnarfoz | the "Patch" directories of my non-steam and steam-installations now look the same |
| 21:13.13 | Gnarfoz | (also, linking the account was a pain in the ass, because ncsoft STILL uses their dumb IP authorization thing, which doesn't play well at all with dynamic IP addresses) |
| 21:30.19 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 21:30.28 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 21:30.42 | Fisker | :) |
| 22:03.24 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1465509802.png |
| 22:03.30 | VIad | bug in hearthstone :d |
| 22:04.55 | Stanzilla | grats |
| 22:05.05 | Stanzilla | also why are you still up and missing the invasion events? |
| 22:08.03 | VIad | meh |
| 22:08.05 | VIad | tomorrow |
| 22:08.06 | VIad | if its up |
| 22:16.52 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/HbItx5b |
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| 22:42.35 | Predicate | Shortest 15 minutes ever? |
| 22:42.43 | Gnarfoz | crashy crashy |
| 22:42.45 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 22:42.58 | Gnarfoz | current beta build just leaves a dead wowb-64 process behind, lazy bums |
| 22:43.08 | Gnarfoz | instead of crashing with non-reaped M2 models |
| 22:43.32 | Gnarfoz | (and by "dead" I mean "uses 1 cpu 100%") |
| 22:43.51 | Predicate | That's a funny definition of dead. |
| 22:44.40 | Gnarfoz | don't you know the phrase "dead and kicking"? |
| 22:44.42 | Gnarfoz | no? :D |
| 22:45.13 | Predicate | I...don't think that's a thing. |
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| 23:37.38 | Simca | http://eyesofthebeast.com/2016/06/how-to-craft-and-tame-your-very-own-iron-juggernaut/ |
| 23:38.01 | Simca | every time i see something like this I wonder how much time they would have saved if they knew about gameobjectcache |
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