| 00:00.16 | nebula | kind of weird to load on race |
| 00:13.16 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 00:19.58 | mckenziemc | an aura for a specific racial? |
| 00:21.49 | Stanzilla | or art |
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| 00:52.16 | Munk | I've noticed that killing a mob sometimes clears its target and sometimes it doesn't. Is there any way to control this? |
| 00:52.41 | Munk | Sticky targeting seems to have no effect on it. |
| 00:57.54 | Semlar | sticky targeting is for keeping your target instead of clearing it when you click on the world frame |
| 00:58.22 | Semlar | as far as i know you should never keep your target if it dies |
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| 00:59.35 | NodusCursorius | Semlar, good work on the blp issue. |
| 00:59.43 | Semlar | o.o |
| 01:00.05 | Torhal | Semlar: So how do you explain quiescens? |
| 01:00.14 | Semlar | a glitch in the matrix |
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| 03:23.27 | kd3|hate`net | holy cow the victory celebration at a smash tournament just now (headphone warning) https://www.twitch.tv/2ggaming/v/70507676?t=10h22m48s |
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| 05:08.17 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
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| 05:45.13 | mckenziemc | is up late and hugs Cairenn and sees Fisker off to work. |
| 05:45.23 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
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| 07:23.12 | VIad | Semlar: I just can't handle seeing the camera fight me when I target something :p |
| 07:23.34 | VIad | tbh blizz did good by making nameplates stick to the corners of the screen, even if the mob goes out of screen - thats neat |
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| 09:56.43 | Ironii | isn't that only for your target? |
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| 11:23.39 | karl_w_w | never before has an advert set off my bullshit alarm like that one |
| 11:24.08 | karl_w_w | apparently regular fuel clogs your car with dirt, and BP Ultimate will clean it right out for you |
| 11:27.42 | nevcairiel | its probably not all wrong, except that we have filters for this dirt |
| 11:40.23 | NodusCursorius | karl_w_w, isn't the BP Ultimate meant for engines not designed for standard? |
| 11:42.30 | NodusCursorius | Higher-octane engines usually have a different filtering system for the injector, and the system overall has a lower tolerance for debris. |
| 11:43.32 | NodusCursorius | I couldn't say if their new octane fuel breaks down dirt in some special way, but I wouldn't write it off because dirt in high octane engines is an actual issue. |
| 11:52.20 | zenzelezz | wow, DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL; long time no see |
| 11:56.09 | NodusCursorius | Hello Bluescreen my old friend. I've come to trigger you again. |
| 11:57.56 | NodusCursorius | Because a driver slowly leaking, left its bounds while I was sleeping. |
| 11:59.04 | zenzelezz | my sounds card driver freaked out when I tried to enable it after disabling it |
| 11:59.08 | zenzelezz | *sound |
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| 12:22.00 | Miiru | ola |
| 12:36.12 | Miiru | hunting down taint without having a clue whats causing it isnt fun :< |
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| 12:41.01 | foxlit | it tells you which addon is responsible, yeah? |
| 12:41.52 | Miiru | yes of course but i cant reproduce it |
| 12:44.53 | foxlit | delete offending addon, rinse, repeat. |
| 12:44.57 | foxlit | taint issues: solved. |
| 12:46.40 | Miiru | i dont want to delete my own addon :D |
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| 12:48.17 | Ironii | if its your own code shouldn't you have atleast an idea why its causing errors ? O.o |
| 12:49.45 | foxlit | I'd quote arthas at you, but it doesn't quite fit. |
| 12:50.13 | Miiru | Taintlog tells me im tainting ACTIVE_CHAT_EDIT_BOX, but im not touching the chatframe or printing anything at all |
| 12:54.56 | Miiru | http://pastebin.com/z5GJbcbn |
| 12:55.40 | Miiru | it happens under a certain condition i dont know yet when i try to close the orderhall frame using esc |
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| 13:04.05 | Predicate | That looks like taintLog 1, did you try taintLog 2? |
| 13:04.50 | foxlit | what's the difference? |
| 13:05.35 | Predicate | 1 tells you when something was blocked and what tainted variable triggered it. 2 tells you whenever you taint anything ever. |
| 13:05.44 | NodusCursorius | Let us not forget that Firehose mode, Taintlog 11, is a real thing during beta. |
| 13:06.01 | Predicate | ^this kills the hard drve |
| 13:06.07 | NodusCursorius | I'm not even making that up. |
| 13:06.11 | Miiru | i can try to enable taintlog 2 and see if i can get it reproduced |
| 13:06.24 | foxlit | Predicate: what is the first line of the paste? |
| 13:06.44 | Predicate | That shows what variable it was, but not how it got tainted. |
| 13:07.08 | foxlit | Right, that's on second-third lines of the paste. |
| 13:07.48 | Predicate | That's...not very useful, since it's a built-in keybinding script. |
| 13:08.48 | foxlit | Welcome to taint logs. |
| 13:08.59 | Predicate | ...which is why I recommended the more detailed logging. |
| 13:09.05 | NodusCursorius | Welcome to taintlog 1 you mean. |
| 13:09.16 | foxlit | the very first event is "you tainted a global" |
| 13:09.22 | foxlit | this implies that this is already taintlog 2. |
| 13:09.30 | Predicate | Have you ever used taintLog 2? |
| 13:09.36 | foxlit | yes. |
| 13:09.58 | NodusCursorius | But you asked what the difference was? |
| 13:10.07 | foxlit | yes. |
| 13:10.13 | NodusCursorius | Miiru is running it under TL2. We'll have his pastie soon enough. |
| 13:11.15 | NodusCursorius | Because if you have used taintlog 2, but want to know what the difference is, the only way to avoid this turning into a mini-battle is to let you see a direct comparison. |
| 13:13.46 | Semlar | he only asks rhetorical questions |
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| 13:28.19 | Miiru | ok lets see |
| 13:30.42 | Miiru | http://pastebin.com/dKymYEL1 with taintlog 2 |
| 13:31.53 | NodusCursorius | Hurrah! |
| 13:31.54 | Miiru | i noticed i only get the taint after i completed an orderhall mission so its quite hard to reproduce |
| 13:32.14 | Miiru | maybe it does the same with garrison quests |
| 13:32.18 | Miiru | *missions |
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| 13:44.07 | foxlit | NodusCursorius: so, in conclusion, no difference? |
| 13:44.43 | NodusCursorius | If you read his log and that was your conclusion, then I'm sincerely sick of your ego and rhetorical questions. Stop attempting to impress yourself. |
| 13:45.15 | foxlit | Can't do that, people are wrong on the internets. |
| 13:46.06 | foxlit | It's exactly the same three event types -- "Global variable X tainted by addonY", "Execution tainted by addonY while reading globalX" and "An action was blocked because of taint from addonY" |
| 13:49.06 | foxlit | Otoh, if the first paste was taintlog 1, neither "Global variable ACTIVE_CHAT_EDIT_BOX" nor "Execution tainted by miirGui while reading ACTIVE_CHAT_EDIT_BOX" would've been present. |
| 13:50.02 | Semlar | https://gfycat.com/InsistentBossyBats |
| 13:50.57 | NodusCursorius | First, that isn't how the taintlog works, foxlit. Second, despite the stark difference in logs, are you really going to use your intellect and tell us that Miiru is either lying or misinformed about his CVar input? |
| 13:51.24 | NodusCursorius | Miiru, I'm not at all familiar with the Garrison aspects, or I'd happily step in and help. |
| 13:55.24 | NodusCursorius | Much smoother control, nice work Semlar. What value did you change the movement speed to? |
| 13:56.11 | Semlar | it actually wasn't a problem with the movement speed, if you keep stopping and starting the camera functions they don't seem to work right |
| 13:56.15 | Miiru | No problem, im jsut gonna keep fiddling around and see if im gonan come up with something |
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| 13:56.48 | NodusCursorius | Semlar, huh... |
| 13:56.56 | foxlit | Miiru: the second piece of the puzzle is your code, so if it's published, you should probably link it. |
| 14:01.22 | foxlit | NodusCursorius: It is my impression that I'm describing exactly how the taintlog works; if it's incorrect, you're welcome to supply a short example illustrating that. Until you do, I'm going to assume that it hasn't changed since the last time I tested it. |
| 14:03.25 | NodusCursorius | Here's the thing: Two people recommended using taintLog 2 for additional information. You asked what the difference was (as a challenge, because you don't like others helping when you do), and two logs of two taintLog levels were provided to you. |
| 14:04.04 | NodusCursorius | Are you denying that taintLog 2 outputs additional information, or denying that his first log was taintLog 1? |
| 14:04.18 | foxlit | The first log is not consistent with taintlog 1 output. |
| 14:04.32 | NodusCursorius | So you're putting -him- into question. |
| 14:04.51 | NodusCursorius | I do not believe you, because you did not move to correct him. |
| 14:05.02 | NodusCursorius | And as this has proven, and you have in the past, you are quick to do so. |
| 14:05.02 | foxlit | It's also inconsistent by Predicate's definition of what taintlog 1 is. |
| 14:05.44 | NodusCursorius | So, despite both logs yielding different information, the latter yielding a greater amount, you still hold the position that they are the same. |
| 14:05.50 | NodusCursorius | Cheers. |
| 14:06.43 | foxlit | They yeild exactly the same type of information, which is consistent with them stemming from the same logging level. |
| 14:07.53 | Predicate | ...I'm not sure what you're trying to prove. That I guessed the wrong taint log level when I glanced at his initial paste at 7 in the morning after an all-nighter? |
| 14:08.17 | foxlit | The only differences are in the number of logged events and contents of stack traces, which is expected because they stem from different reproductive steps. |
| 14:09.05 | NodusCursorius | She didn't guess wrong, either. But if foxlit needs me to start dumping client code to show him what the taintlog does, I can do that. |
| 14:09.36 | NodusCursorius | Or, stop thrashing about with this and tell Miiru directly that you don't believe him. |
| 14:09.39 | foxlit | Predicate: yes. I wanted to know if something made you think it was 1 and not 2, because I thought it was 2 to begin with. |
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| 14:11.40 | zenzelezz | wow, the animosity |
| 14:11.57 | foxlit | Since your description of the levels is equivalent to what I think is correct, I concluded that you just didn't read into the lines too closely. |
| 14:12.04 | Predicate | I took a guess and asked if he'd tried 2. I never claimed it had to be 1. I don't care what it is, or whether I was right or wrong, I just tried to offer a helpful step. |
| 14:12.07 | foxlit | The rest is jsut NodusCursorius telling me what I should do. |
| 14:12.24 | NodusCursorius | The passive-aggressive questioning of knowledge he does to others stops, that's all zenzelezz. He's fantastic otherwise. |
| 14:12.52 | zenzelezz | uh huh |
| 14:13.03 | zenzelezz | did you go by another name before? |
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| 14:13.36 | NodusCursorius | zenzelezz, no? I don't have the energy for multiple accounts. Not enough coffee. |
| 14:13.42 | foxlit | Predicate: no problem on my end. Just checking for consistency; it might've been the case that something changed and I was out of the loop. Thanks for clearing it up :) |
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| 14:14.34 | zenzelezz | NodusCursorius: was just curious. Didn't recall seeing you until recently, but from your arguments it sounded like you two had a history |
| 14:14.42 | NodusCursorius | What? What did she clear up for you, foxlit? |
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| 14:18.37 | foxlit | NodusCursorius: "I took a guess and asked if he'd tried 2. I never claimed it had to be 1." |
| 14:19.35 | NodusCursorius | Predicate> That looks like taintLog 1, did you try taintLog 2? |
| 14:19.48 | NodusCursorius | But you already knew that and acknowledged it. : foxlit> what's the difference? |
| 14:20.29 | NodusCursorius | You followed up by asking her what was on line 1, as a blind asking the seeing to present data audibly. |
| 14:21.00 | NodusCursorius | Two rhetorical questions in a row, a common feature of your passive-aggressive need to challenge others who help while you do. |
| 14:21.17 | NodusCursorius | Don't back up now and say "thanks for clarifying" when you acknowledged her statement with your first line. |
| 14:37.04 | Miiru | i may have found the error. I didnt notice that they actually used 2 functions for more or less the same thing. function OrderHallMissionComplete:ShowRewards() for Orderhall missions and function GarrisonMissionComplete:ShowRewards() for garrison and shipyard stuff. Since i only read the showrewards stuff, i thought that the orderhall ui uses the same one as the garrison and shipyard one and created 1 hook for the 3 |
| 14:37.04 | Miiru | of them when it needs to be 2 diferrent ones. Maybe that was the error. I'll see it in an hour or so :D |
| 14:38.37 | Semlar | did you say you had this uploaded somewhere |
| 14:39.22 | Miiru | no this version isnt uploaded yet and i dont know if anyone wants to dig through 10000+ lines of code? |
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| 14:40.10 | Semlar | they might |
| 14:41.02 | Predicate | It would only be the third time I've done that this beta |
| 14:42.12 | NodusCursorius | Miiru, good hunting, especially if it works! |
| 14:42.37 | Semlar | we can't exactly point out what the problem is without the code |
| 14:46.49 | mckenziemc | unless Semlar wrote it |
| 14:47.01 | Semlar | how dare you |
| 14:47.25 | mckenziemc | how dare you taint others' code |
| 14:50.48 | VIad | Semlar I could never imagine you doing something like this! |
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| 14:55.00 | NodusCursorius | I can't believe you've tainted this, Semlar |
| 14:55.20 | Semlar | i didn't do nuffin |
| 14:56.40 | NodusCursorius | This is what happens when you taint a camera in the Ace |
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| 15:38.38 | Miiru | ok that wasnt the problem :/ |
| 15:39.25 | Miiru | http://pastebin.com/dZTXgqWs - cleaner taintlog |
| 15:39.44 | Miiru | http://ersguteryves.net/tainted.zip |
| 15:39.45 | Miiru | code |
| 15:40.12 | VIad | someone did a _G.ClearTarget = function ? |
| 15:40.18 | VIad | tsk tsk |
| 15:40.53 | Miiru | Interface\AddOns\Blizzard_OrderHallUI\Blizzard_OrderHallMissionUI.lua:244 GetMissionPage() is at the cor of this problem? |
| 15:41.08 | Miiru | *core |
| 15:49.28 | foxlit | It could be, but it's my impression that the client's cause analysis is a bit opaque. |
| 15:51.25 | Miiru | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:51.55 | Miiru | on top of that it does not always block the game menu toggle then, sometimes it shows the game menu but throws the error at the same time |
| 15:52.06 | Miiru | so it says its blocked but it isnt |
| 15:53.07 | Semlar | you are leaking a lot of rather generic globals |
| 15:53.41 | Semlar | including the underscore |
| 15:54.04 | foxlit | Miiru: it's not so much that it's saying that it's blocking the game menu; rather, the escape binding does a lot of things, some of which are blocked. |
| 15:54.56 | foxlit | For instance, it tries to abort the spell you're currently casting, which is what the first of those action was blocked errors is about. |
| 15:55.31 | Miiru | that makes sense |
| 15:55.47 | foxlit | I don't think the game menu itself is protected, and it's not like you're in lockdown in your order hall anyway, so it would show up eventually. |
| 15:56.37 | Semlar | http://hastebin.com/acacozacil.lua all of these are globals that you're creating |
| 15:57.36 | VIad | _ |
| 15:57.37 | VIad | :d |
| 15:57.42 | Predicate | f |
| 15:57.44 | Predicate | D: |
| 15:57.45 | VIad | r g b |
| 15:57.46 | VIad | hex |
| 15:57.53 | VIad | so many horrors |
| 16:00.41 | Miiru | lets see |
| 16:00.47 | Miiru | i thought i fixed most of them^^ |
| 16:01.33 | Semlar | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:793f2e1f9d5d28dd80441184c22179a8 |
| 16:02.40 | VIad | like always, recommending that everyone use findglobals :p |
| 16:03.11 | mckenziemc | finds VIad's globals. |
| 16:03.22 | VIad | provides globals to mckenziemc. |
| 16:04.53 | VIad | globe should rate your coding habits on some categories |
| 16:05.04 | VIad | and tell you how smart you do stuff, or if you use bad OnUpdate, e.g. |
| 16:05.05 | VIad | :d |
| 16:06.22 | Semlar | it's not there to judge you, just to provide information |
| 16:07.00 | mckenziemc | don't judge him Semlar |
| 16:07.09 | VIad | Semlar, please |
| 16:07.30 | Predicate | Globe should give a mushroom points score to your code based on mysterious factors. |
| 16:07.31 | foxlit | Miiru: you overhook some things. |
| 16:07.54 | Semlar | i agree with predicate |
| 16:08.01 | foxlit | Realistically, Blizzard should wrap order hall interactions on that path in securecall, because there's no way that thing is remaining untainted. |
| 16:08.53 | VIad | Globe confused some other parts of my code as localization table |
| 16:09.12 | Predicate | Were you writing them in other languages? |
| 16:09.19 | VIad | nope |
| 16:09.22 | Semlar | did you name it L.. |
| 16:09.40 | VIad | the localization table is, but the table it found was my config defaults table :p |
| 16:10.22 | VIad | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:9f1b4a59ec7989603c17713544dc41cb |
| 16:11.00 | VIad | nvm |
| 16:11.18 | VIad | not sure why it flags it like that, it picked localization keys, but placed true as their values |
| 16:11.40 | VIad | instead of the actual string |
| 16:12.12 | VIad | is the warning for "Missing model for 70000 FrameXML" a site thing or addon thing? :p |
| 16:12.28 | nevcairiel | globe just doesnt know about 7.0 yet |
| 16:12.28 | Semlar | a site thing |
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| 16:37.20 | Torhal | Cairenn: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v1q2ngdm2pn5dze/2016-06-05%2009.52.55-3.jpg |
| 16:37.41 | zenzelezz | om nom nom |
| 16:38.03 | Torhal | Predicate: You asked for pics. ^ |
| 16:38.27 | Stanzilla | awww |
| 16:38.33 | Stanzilla | he is eating you |
| 16:38.50 | Torhal | https://www.dropbox.com/s/0dx68pq5q1ou3bw/2016-06-05%2009.52.58-1.jpg |
| 16:39.15 | Torhal | https://www.dropbox.com/s/1x7v16b82avp56d/2016-06-05%2009.52.59-5.jpg |
| 16:39.43 | Torhal | https://www.dropbox.com/s/0y0nt6mqv02yirr/2016-06-05%2009.53.02-2.jpg |
| 16:40.38 | Neffi | you didn't give me pics :( |
| 16:40.48 | Neffi | in beginning to question our friendship, Torhal |
| 16:41.01 | Neffi | you can fix this by giving me a kitten, OK? |
| 16:42.02 | Torhal | gives Neffi several Semlar fragments. |
| 16:42.25 | Neffi | these are just vendor junk D: |
| 16:42.50 | Torhal | Hell, I thought I'd confusing yo by not giving you the original whole piece. |
| 16:42.55 | Torhal | >.> |
| 16:43.06 | Neffi | hahahhaa |
| 16:43.15 | Torhal | Err, yeah. Beers make typing FUN. |
| 16:43.34 | Neffi | beers make everything fun |
| 16:43.36 | Stanzilla | that's why the pics are so blurry, right? |
| 16:43.37 | Neffi | good beers? |
| 16:43.50 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Seriously? Kittens are FAST. |
| 16:43.56 | Torhal | Neffi: Yar. |
| 16:44.03 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 16:44.05 | Neffi | which ones? |
| 16:44.10 | Torhal | Don't drink often these days, so always good beers. |
| 16:44.21 | Stanzilla | "budweiser alcohol free" |
| 16:44.22 | Torhal | Fat Tire and Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale/ |
| 16:44.35 | Mr_Rabies | water, Stanzilla? |
| 16:44.37 | Neffi | I have several good beers in the fridge from the other night. One of them is 10% ABV! I should drink some |
| 16:44.41 | Stanzilla | Mr_Rabies: brown water |
| 16:44.58 | Torhal | The Bourbon Barrel are 8% or slightly more. |
| 16:45.02 | Neffi | Bourbon Barrel Ale is pretty good but its a tad too sweet to drink many |
| 16:45.26 | Torhal | My local Walmart decided to stop carrying the fucking Breakfast Stouts. |
| 16:45.30 | Stanzilla | no one ever called me too sweet :( |
| 16:45.31 | Neffi | :( |
| 16:45.38 | Torhal | They were the only local store that I'm aware of that had them. |
| 16:45.38 | Neffi | Walmart is truly an evil corporation! |
| 16:46.19 | Torhal | I'm not sure anyone who wasn't on druge or drunk and fooled by syrup has ever called an asshole sweet, Stanzilla. |
| 16:46.30 | Torhal | s/druge/drugs/ |
| 16:46.50 | Stanzilla | wow |
| 16:46.55 | Torhal | >. |
| 16:46.57 | Torhal | >.> |
| 16:46.58 | Torhal | <.< |
| 16:46.58 | Stanzilla | I mean not going to talk about sex practices now but |
| 16:47.00 | Stanzilla | that was rude |
| 16:47.00 | Stanzilla | :< |
| 16:47.20 | mckenziemc | ships a litter of feline vermin to Neffi to cheer him up. |
| 16:47.24 | Torhal | You have vto admit that you're a mean dude these days. |
| 16:47.24 | Neffi | Torhal is a mean drunk |
| 16:47.53 | Torhal | integrates Neffi into Weak Auras, so now he's purely Stanzilla's problem. |
| 16:48.12 | Neffi | D: |
| 16:48.14 | Neffi | I'm fucked |
| 16:48.22 | Stanzilla | Torhal: actually disagree :< |
| 16:49.16 | Torhal | Fine, Stanzilla. He's now nebula's goddamn problem. Happy, now? |
| 16:50.44 | mckenziemc | that sounds nebulous |
| 16:51.07 | Neffi | that was a Semlar level joke |
| 16:51.35 | Torhal | Well, I thought I was putting Neffi in good hands, but when Stanzilla protested I was forced to compensate by integrating Neffi into nebula's code domain. |
| 16:51.57 | Torhal | So yeah, shit goes wrong just blame Stanzilla per usual. |
| 16:52.00 | Torhal | >.> |
| 16:52.01 | Torhal | <.< |
| 16:52.18 | Neffi | ofc |
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| 16:55.30 | Stanzilla | either drink more or less beer :D |
| 16:56.55 | mckenziemc | ah, the uncanny valley |
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| 17:34.45 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:45.43 | VIad | mmochamp giveaway is 500 keys and ~10200 people that want one by the time its drawing time |
| 18:50.23 | Stanzilla | welcome to giveaways |
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| 18:53.27 | VIad | they got like 10k bulk then they do 500 each week until release :p |
| 19:07.48 | VIad | <0.04% chance to win, c'mon! |
| 19:08.01 | VIad | it's like the old school mount drop chances |
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| 19:10.54 | Semlar | i'm not sure i want people from mmochampion even playing on live |
| 19:17.31 | NodusCursorius | Semlar++; |
| 19:19.41 | NodusCursorius | At least Blizzard doesn't ask you to pay money to participate in the Beta. Unlike some developers. |
| 19:20.34 | karl_w_w | that's because blizzard's betas are actually betas |
| 19:20.50 | karl_w_w | oh, and they did ask you to pay money for the hots beta :P |
| 19:22.07 | NodusCursorius | karl_w_w, Frontier's Elite Dangerous betas are also true betas. The entrance fee to help test and bug report is $25 |
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| 19:23.04 | NodusCursorius | And people pay it, like the concept of a company hiring a Q&A team exists in a land of opposite world. |
| 19:24.34 | zenzelezz | then there's Star Citizen, which seems to be the slowest growing active game in history |
| 19:25.51 | NodusCursorius | Day Citizen. Star Z. Take your pick. |
| 19:26.19 | NodusCursorius | Wait, HotS was pay-to-help-test karl_w_w? |
| 19:27.33 | karl_w_w | http://www.pcgamer.com/heroes-of-the-storm-founders-pack-grants-immediate-access-to-beta-for-a-price/ |
| 19:28.25 | NodusCursorius | Oh, now see I'm surprisingly fine with that as long as it somehow carried over into a benefit of final release. |
| 19:29.22 | NodusCursorius | "We -are- doing free public betas for testing but if you're that eager to play, you're not likely to actually test for bugs. So at least compensate us." |
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| 19:31.15 | NodusCursorius | zenzelezz, what's Star Z's model for Q&A testing? Are there free invitations to test and report or would the game be released in a buggy state if no one purchased the game? |
| 19:33.34 | zenzelezz | don't know about any of that. Just know it's raised tens of millions of dollars in crowdfunding and are yet to make a real first release |
| 19:35.27 | NodusCursorius | hwh |
| 19:39.37 | zenzelezz | that said, it does look like it will be a good product when it's done |
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| 20:16.45 | g0urra | hi |
| 20:16.56 | zenzelezz | hi |
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| 21:12.56 | Cairenn | Torhal: d'awwwww |
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| 22:30.37 | Gnarfoz | reading scrollback it's funny to see foxlit of all people accused of not knowing how the taintlog levels work ;D |
| 22:51.05 | NodusCursorius | Times change, Gnarfoz. So does backend code. The discussion was far more about his passive-aggressiveness with people and less about how the client manages the taintLog CVar. |
| 22:51.19 | Gnarfoz | it was about you defending your wife, tbh |
| 22:51.48 | NodusCursorius | No, it was not. Since I have had similar bouts with him (which are harmless, he's still good people) about a number of topics. |
| 22:53.05 | NodusCursorius | So, let's be actually honest instead of assumption honest: We all have our faults, but my wife can handle herself just fine. |
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| 22:56.34 | NodusCursorius | On a different topic, you authored StickLootWindow, didn't you Gnarfoz? |
| 22:56.47 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure I did |
| 22:57.09 | Gnarfoz | sounds vageuly familiar? :D |
| 22:57.16 | NodusCursorius | 10/10, if so. One of those frustrating issues of the past that I didn't realize were an issue until I learned there was a cure. |
| 22:57.37 | NodusCursorius | s/were/was/ |
| 22:57.42 | Gnarfoz | my wowace profile says I did, so I guess I did! |
| 22:57.47 | Gnarfoz | ahh yes |
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| 22:58.15 | Gnarfoz | good old "sorry mates, please everyone roll again on everything, I closed the loot window by mistake" thing |
| 22:58.50 | Gnarfoz | totally forgot about that after the other 4/5ths of my raid's leadership absconded to another server/guild |
| 22:59.03 | NodusCursorius | Never had the pleasure of that, but it was an issue for me in PvP. |
| 22:59.33 | Gnarfoz | what happens when you do that in pvp? |
| 23:00.11 | NodusCursorius | Rather early on it used to deselect your target if you were CCed. After they fixed that, the loot window would close if you were CCed. |
| 23:00.42 | NodusCursorius | Nothing like trying to loot a world boss or group rare and then getting CCed out of a rapidly despawning corpse. |
| 23:01.03 | Gnarfoz | ah, I guess that would be annoying |
| 23:01.22 | NodusCursorius | One of those instances of it being mostly rare, but when it does it's instant salt mines. |
| 23:01.43 | Gnarfoz | Blizzard should fix this by always putting epic quality loot on them |
| 23:01.48 | Gnarfoz | so they don't despawn for half an hour |
| 23:02.06 | NodusCursorius | How does that work for Group Loot rules? Corpse despawn timers, I mean. |
| 23:02.10 | Gnarfoz | no idea |
| 23:02.18 | Gnarfoz | I'm not even sure that rule even applies outside of instances |
| 23:02.42 | Gnarfoz | (IIRC it does, from ye olde Kazzak corpse camping days) |
| 23:03.10 | NodusCursorius | Good point. |
| 23:03.26 | Gnarfoz | neither Kazzak nor his home exist anymore :( |
| 23:03.59 | Gnarfoz | Deathwing be damned ^^ |
| 23:10.01 | NodusCursorius | I'm still on the fence over the entire reshaping of the continents. A bit long to sit on a fence, probably. |
| 23:10.20 | Gnarfoz | padding is key |
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