| 00:10.17 | p3lim | Is there any positional information available about the lines in ScrollingMessageFrame? |
| 00:10.59 | Semlar | you can iterate over the font strings |
| 00:13.53 | Semlar | i'm not sure if you mean the scroll offset or the actual location of the font strings |
| 00:14.07 | p3lim | actual locations |
| 00:14.28 | Semlar | you'll probably have to loop over frame:GetRegions() |
| 00:15.42 | Semlar | i guess if you know the height of the lines you could probably figure it out from the location of the message frame |
| 00:16.47 | Semlar | with multiline strings you'd still have to get the actual font string though so that wouldn't work very well |
| 00:17.06 | p3lim | yeah |
| 00:33.19 | Ironii | wouldn't it be quite easy to figure it out, (lineID%(GetNumMessages()/math.floor(frameHeight/lineHeight)))*lineHeight = top, frame+(/-) offset = left? |
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| 00:34.12 | Ironii | ofc you would need to check if the text is in multiple lines, but that should be doable with string.len |
| 00:37.31 | Predicate | nah, string.len will mislead you (think about format strings and such) |
| 00:37.46 | Predicate | You'd definitely want to iterate through the font strings and add up their actual heights. |
| 00:40.21 | p3lim | Just gonna try the fontstrings first |
| 01:02.21 | foxlit | x64 makes this even more fun, as between instruction-relative addressing and fastcall, you can't conviniently grep for PUSH (immediate 32-bit pointer) |
| 01:04.26 | Iriel | Play of the game while dead 8-) |
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| 01:19.36 | Predicate | foxlit: Welcome to exactly what I've been complaining about all day :P |
| 01:20.40 | Predicate | Well, not the push part, that works fine. But calls are still relative. Grr. |
| 01:20.46 | foxlit | wait, who takes complaints about that? |
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| 01:20.57 | Predicate | My SO, apparently! |
| 01:25.12 | p3lim | And there we go, individual line chat copy with buttons to the left of the text :] |
| 01:28.30 | foxlit | call-near is a thing on 86 as well :) |
| 01:29.22 | foxlit | (er, ^relative) |
| 01:35.17 | sylvanaar | p3lim: I managed to relayout the fontstrings in SMF so they actually had 2 columns |
| 01:35.29 | sylvanaar | I may have that code around somewhere if you want it |
| 01:35.41 | p3lim | I got my stuff working, but sure |
| 01:36.03 | p3lim | You might have done something smarter :] |
| 01:37.09 | sylvanaar | I just wrote stuff to achieve an end, I doubt it was smarter than anything else. Let me look though. |
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| 01:41.50 | sylvanaar | p3lim: heres a copy of an old version https://gist.github.com/sylvanaar/5ea10ff1ba6ce64ca72253b1e47b94b1 |
| 01:43.17 | p3lim | my current code: https://gist.github.com/p3lim/a0416113a8ee89d1d86527c89fdcb68a |
| 01:44.33 | p3lim | that should work by itself, you could run it to see |
| 01:44.43 | mckenziemc | accidents of ingenuity happen, sylvanaar |
| 01:46.39 | sylvanaar | p3lim: does it show a button on every line? |
| 01:46.45 | p3lim | sylvanaar: yup |
| 01:47.02 | p3lim | click to copy that line, that's all it's for |
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| 01:47.03 | sylvanaar | You should limit it to lines that you are hovering over |
| 01:47.13 | p3lim | per line? |
| 01:47.20 | sylvanaar | Yeah |
| 01:47.26 | p3lim | yeah I'm considering that too |
| 01:47.48 | p3lim | just a PoC for now, got a few more things I need to fix |
| 01:48.19 | sylvanaar | If you add the button, you will have to reflow the text around it or else you will end up with clipping of the text |
| 01:48.44 | p3lim | it's not adding anything to the text |
| 01:49.12 | p3lim | separate button anchored to the respective line |
| 01:49.34 | sylvanaar | Yeah, but doesn't that shorten the line? or is it off the chat frame? |
| 01:49.41 | p3lim | it's outside |
| 01:49.51 | sylvanaar | ah ok |
| 01:50.02 | p3lim | not doing anything with hyperlinks |
| 01:50.34 | p3lim | that'd be a lot easier to implement imo |
| 01:50.37 | p3lim | done that before |
| 01:50.56 | p3lim | but I didn't want to modify the contents of the chat frames at all |
| 01:51.27 | sylvanaar | Thats kind of the reverse of me! |
| 01:51.32 | sylvanaar | lol, have fun with it |
| 01:51.34 | p3lim | :) |
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| 02:04.01 | Predicate | ...I got way too far before realizing ludis86 has no API for getting operands of an instruction. |
| 02:04.12 | Predicate | I'm going to go punch something now. |
| 02:04.28 | mckenziemc | hey there |
| 02:04.55 | Stanzilla | Predicate: rect |
| 02:04.58 | Stanzilla | with a k |
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| 02:57.24 | Iriel | Predicate: it's open source isn't it - can't you just add that? |
| 02:58.02 | Predicate | If I knew C, sure :P |
| 02:58.29 | Iriel | Now's as good a time to learn as any! |
| 02:58.43 | Iriel | Better, in fact, since you have motivation |
| 02:58.57 | Predicate | If I didn't already have a couple dozen things on my plate, perhaps |
| 02:59.41 | Predicate | But hey, if anyone else has some spare cycles, you're welcome to add the API I need! :D |
| 02:59.43 | Kesava | Stanzilla: :D |
| 03:00.23 | Stanzilla | Kesava: wat up |
| 03:00.35 | Kesava | nameonly mode in latest commit |
| 03:00.53 | Stanzilla | I'm a dummy |
| 03:01.00 | Kesava | yes |
| 03:02.11 | Stanzilla | looks nice |
| 03:02.21 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/Ib96rfG.jpg |
| 03:02.41 | Stanzilla | I still hate the nameplate movement |
| 03:03.18 | Kesava | yees |
| 03:03.48 | Semlar | overlap, Stanzilla |
| 03:04.20 | Stanzilla | that makes targetting something impossible sometimes |
| 03:04.35 | Semlar | not if you size them properly |
| 03:05.16 | Semlar | i couldn't play with spreading nameplates |
| 03:05.23 | Semlar | i need them to be on the unit |
| 03:05.25 | Stanzilla | I dont even know what I have on live |
| 03:05.29 | Stanzilla | but yeah same actually |
| 03:05.55 | Stanzilla | spreadnameplates "0" |
| 03:06.00 | Stanzilla | so stacking I guess |
| 03:06.24 | Semlar | on live the default nameplate hitbox is absurdly large |
| 03:06.34 | Semlar | so if you don't scale it down it makes it a lot harder to target something |
| 03:06.54 | Semlar | if you're only displaying names for units like i have for my nameplates you can make the hitbox a lot smaller |
| 03:07.45 | Semlar | shrinking them should also affect how the spread works if you still want to use spreading nameplates |
| 03:08.10 | Semlar | i think you can also add some acceptable amount of overlap to it |
| 03:09.45 | Semlar | when the units are close together and the nameplates just start floating up to random locations it makes it really hard for me to know what the hell i'm trying to target |
| 03:09.55 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 03:10.07 | Semlar | so i always use the overlapping nameplates |
| 03:11.23 | Semlar | try setting C_NamePlate.SetNamePlateOtherSize(50, 20) to some other values and see how they behave |
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| 03:17.15 | Stanzilla | what's the first value? the click target size? |
| 03:17.24 | Stanzilla | second seems to be vertical position? |
| 03:17.35 | Stanzilla | or is it both hit target size? |
| 03:17.36 | Semlar | no it's the width and height of the nameplates |
| 03:18.12 | Stanzilla | 50 20 is quite nice actually |
| 03:18.28 | Semlar | i was just guessing based on the picture |
| 03:18.59 | Semlar | i'm assuming it affects the spread |
| 03:20.07 | Semlar | there are 2 cvars, "nameplateOverlapH" and "nameplateOverlapV" which theoretically affect how much it allows the nameplates to overlap when it's set to spread |
| 03:22.51 | Stanzilla | I need to test that when I'm less tired |
| 03:27.59 | Kesava | is there still a flaskataur etc or did they say they've gone on vacation |
| 03:28.17 | Kesava | i'm too lazy to check |
| 03:29.05 | Semlar | can a secure frame be shown with a slash command |
| 03:33.12 | Semlar | i'm thinking no |
| 03:33.24 | Kesava | i'll go with that |
| 03:43.30 | Semlar | i guess i could collapse it or something instead of hiding the frame and having no way to get it back in combat |
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| 04:26.56 | mckenziemc | taints Semlar's I.W.I.N. button. |
| 04:40.38 | Semlar | well i broke the game trying to make a list of secure buttons |
| 04:40.57 | Semlar | this is new |
| 04:42.07 | Mr_Rabies | <Semlar> well i broke the game |
| 04:42.34 | Mr_Rabies | this is part of probably at least a good 60% of your addon creation process at this point, i'd say |
| 04:42.38 | Semlar | i didn't do nuffi |
| 04:42.40 | Semlar | n |
| 04:42.57 | Semlar | seriously though i managed to break it just by trying to anchor a frame to another frame |
| 04:45.00 | Mr_Rabies | anchor this bullet to another bullet and then shoot the second bullet out of a gun into the casing of the first one |
| 04:52.11 | Semlar | alright, it's taking exponentially longer to load for every frame i add to the list |
| 04:53.19 | Semlar | it only does this when i inherit the secure template |
| 04:56.40 | Semlar | http://hastebin.com/lofapowahe.lua this will pretty much prevent the game from loading if you make the loop much larger than 25 |
| 04:57.47 | Semlar | if i change the way it's being anchored it doesn't do this |
| 04:58.41 | Semlar | like, doing this http://hastebin.com/daxelamula.lua makes it load normally |
| 04:59.02 | Semlar | the only difference is not setting both of the top corners |
| 05:00.23 | Semlar | it also works if i just don't inherit the secure template |
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| 05:08.25 | Semlar | :| |
| 05:20.27 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 05:20.37 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 05:40.12 | mckenziemc | mugs Fisker while hugging Cairenn. |
| 05:40.21 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
| 05:40.46 | Fisker | Hugging my assailant eh? |
| 05:40.49 | Fisker | :/ |
| 05:42.18 | NodusCursorius | nevcairiel, I noticed you tend to give people a dismissive time on the forums. That makes me sad. |
| 05:42.38 | NodusCursorius | On one hand, I can only imagine that you're tired of it all. |
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| 05:45.00 | Rythal | :| am I missing something, or is WorldMapArea no longer in client databases |
| 05:48.11 | NodusCursorius | It is as of a few days back. What are you using to check? |
| 05:49.11 | Rythal | extracted the entire folder using cascexplorer |
| 05:50.54 | NodusCursorius | It's likely missing the hash to file names. |
| 05:51.10 | NodusCursorius | Current list of extractable db2 files: http://hastebin.com/ixakerodij.avrasm |
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| 05:55.38 | nebula | most people deserve to be dismissed |
| 05:56.19 | NodusCursorius | Dismissing excitement though? eh |
| 05:56.38 | nebula | probably |
| 05:57.52 | mckenziemc | all aboard the hype train? |
| 06:05.20 | Semlar | Rythal: you need to add the files to the listfile that cascexplorer is using |
| 06:06.11 | Semlar | oh and they aren't dbc files any more so good luck |
| 06:13.34 | Rythal | noticed that :) and already extracted it to csv so all good |
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| 07:14.20 | Kesava | would anyone happen to know where i can find an enemy mob who starts unattackable, then becomes attackable. or becomes unattackle and goes back to being attackable again |
| 07:14.25 | Kesava | and one i can get to solo |
| 07:14.55 | Kesava | i know there are plenty out there in quests i've already done |
| 07:15.28 | Semlar | i just know the pandas in that one instance who become neutral after you defeat them |
| 07:16.07 | Kesava | ah but they become neutral so i'd expect those to fire UNIT_FACTION anyway |
| 07:16.29 | Kesava | i'm wondering if UNIT_FACTION is fired when something just.. becomes not-attackable, but still an enemy. |
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| 07:17.01 | Semlar | wowprogramming says UNIT_FACTION fires when a unit's pvp status changes |
| 07:18.42 | Kesava | it fires upon any reaction change as far as i can tell |
| 07:19.06 | Kesava | it's how i'm detecting health bar colour changes etc |
| 07:19.15 | Kesava | so it is incorrect |
| 07:19.34 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure UNIT_FLAGS fires for most things like that |
| 07:19.38 | Semlar | but it fires all the time |
| 07:21.37 | Semlar | wouldn't blizzard's nameplate addon have to adjust the bar color somewhere |
| 07:24.00 | Semlar | my old addon just did every single thing OnUpdate, i wasn't too concerned about efficiency |
| 07:24.10 | Kesava | disgusting |
| 07:24.24 | Semlar | it was great, i never had to worry about events not firing |
| 07:25.06 | Kesava | yeah, unit_faction fires for the shadopan |
| 07:25.37 | Semlar | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/Blizzard_NamePlates/Blizzard_NamePlates.lua#139 |
| 07:26.21 | Kesava | yeah. problem is, does it still fire if they just become attackable |
| 07:26.30 | Kesava | i guess i might need to use flags for that |
| 07:26.42 | Semlar | they don't even watch for UNIT_FLAGS |
| 07:26.57 | Semlar | UNIT_FACTION appears to be all they use for this |
| 07:27.41 | Kesava | yeah but they don't do anything special if something starts unattackable and becomes attackable |
| 07:28.04 | Semlar | they'd have to update the bar color |
| 07:28.15 | Kesava | assuming it doesn't change |
| 07:28.30 | Kesava | there are quests where enemies go into a cinematic unattackable mode etc |
| 07:28.43 | Kesava | because that makes sense |
| 07:29.04 | Kesava | it's a very specific situation i wish to cover for. |
| 07:29.14 | Semlar | they're also inheriting the compact unit frame template but i don't think it looks at UNIT_FLAGS either |
| 07:34.14 | Semlar | i'm not sure if UNIT_TARGETABLE_CHANGED would fire, it's hard to tell from these names |
| 07:41.33 | Kesava | indeed |
| 08:06.55 | Simca | Rythal: virtually all of the columns have been shuffled around, fwiw |
| 08:06.55 | Yoshimo | IsQuestFlaggedCompleted is updated on turnin for the quest variation of the opposing faction but not for breadcrumb quests , is it? |
| 08:07.31 | Simca | it depends on how the quests are set up in the data |
| 08:07.53 | Simca | in theory, the breadcrumb quests should mirror each other too |
| 08:07.59 | Simca | in practice, blizzard often forgets |
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| 08:09.48 | Yoshimo | so it sometimes happens but so far on all quests i encountered they forgot? ok |
| 08:10.39 | nevcairiel | you mean it automatically flags the breadcrumb as complete if you didnt do it, or that the breadcrumb of the opposing faction should also flag? |
| 08:15.46 | Yoshimo | usually the breadcrumb isn't marked completed if you accept and complete the quest it would have lead to |
| 08:16.32 | Simca | that is intended |
| 08:16.52 | Yoshimo | if you complete alliance the horde quest is completed, that is easy |
| 08:17.05 | Simca | but yes their mapping of quests between alliance and horde counterparts is not very good for breadcrumb quests |
| 08:17.39 | Yoshimo | Simca: i can understand that, but it would be easier to spot breadcrumbs if they did it the other way round |
| 08:17.39 | Simca | in some cases it is understandable, as one faction may have several more pieces to a lengthy breadcrumb, and in other cases it is not understandable |
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| 08:44.07 | VIad | to detect jumping we can hooksecurefunc JumpOrAscendStart and it register when spacebar makes us jump |
| 08:44.12 | VIad | but what about doublejump? :/ |
| 08:44.30 | VIad | it also triggers on the secondary jump, but what if I only want to register the original, normal, jump? |
| 08:44.32 | VIad | blargh! |
| 08:45.10 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it triggers every time you hit the jump key |
| 08:45.13 | VIad | nope |
| 08:45.22 | VIad | only when the character actually jumps |
| 08:45.32 | Semlar | since when |
| 08:45.35 | VIad | probably more spammy if you swim |
| 08:45.37 | VIad | on the legion atm |
| 08:46.01 | Semlar | i recall having to actually set a timeout for that function to count how many times you jumped |
| 08:46.33 | VIad | try it yourself /run hooksecurefunc("JumpOrAscendStart",function()print("JUMP")end) |
| 08:47.16 | VIad | not sure if it works differently on a DH :p |
| 08:47.29 | VIad | considering they have another kind of jumping mechanic, with a secondary jump and all |
| 08:47.33 | Semlar | it fires every time i hit the spacebar |
| 08:47.38 | VIad | try it on a DH :p |
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| 08:49.01 | VIad | seems like the best way to deal with it is set a OnUpdate as you jump for the first time, then wait for IsFalling to be false |
| 08:49.05 | Semlar | well you're going to have to check if you're currently falling or something |
| 08:49.17 | VIad | yes |
| 08:49.24 | Yoshimo | if you jump and at the highest point press space again to doublejump your script prints a second jump |
| 08:49.42 | VIad | actually you can save the secondary jump for when ever |
| 08:49.49 | VIad | can jump off a cliff, and click it once more right before the ground |
| 08:49.53 | VIad | to act as a disengage |
| 08:49.56 | VIad | i.e. stop the dmg |
| 08:50.12 | VIad | so height isnt a variable for the DH, to register secondary jump |
| 08:50.24 | VIad | more like, if race is DH and is falling, allow for a second jump detection :p |
| 08:50.45 | Yoshimo | if it is falling it might activate glide instead |
| 08:51.11 | VIad | it's always jump, jump, glide |
| 08:51.16 | VIad | unless you manually glide ofc |
| 08:51.32 | VIad | if you already glide, jump always cancels glide, and the loop restarts |
| 08:51.40 | Semlar | how do you manually glide |
| 08:51.44 | VIad | its a spell |
| 08:51.50 | VIad | can drag it from your bar |
| 08:51.52 | VIad | 1.5s cd |
| 08:51.54 | Semlar | then no it's not always double jumping |
| 08:52.04 | Semlar | because it's going into a glide if i just jump forward and hit it |
| 08:52.12 | VIad | yeah |
| 08:52.15 | VIad | a lot of things to consider :D |
| 08:52.38 | VIad | but |
| 08:52.41 | VIad | remember JumpOrAscendStart |
| 08:52.43 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure all you have to do is add a timeout |
| 08:52.46 | VIad | it only triggers when I actually jump on the DH |
| 08:53.01 | VIad | not when I spam the button and nothing happens (because air) |
| 08:53.11 | Semlar | well that's how it works for every other class |
| 08:53.16 | VIad | yeah |
| 08:53.18 | VIad | so you need two logics |
| 08:53.21 | VIad | based on DH or not |
| 08:53.36 | Semlar | i'm not sure what you're checking for |
| 08:54.04 | Semlar | if you only want to check for normal jumps then you can use the same logic for everyone |
| 08:54.06 | VIad | atm just want to register the original jump, not the duplicate one |
| 08:54.10 | VIad | yeah |
| 08:54.25 | Semlar | as far as i can tell it only double jumps if you use it again within a short timeframe |
| 08:54.48 | VIad | hmm, I dont think so |
| 08:55.09 | VIad | Ill try it off dalaran, again, but pretty sure it just waits for your secondary jump until you stop falling basically |
| 08:55.20 | Semlar | if i'm falling it only activates glide |
| 08:55.36 | VIad | wat |
| 08:55.42 | Semlar | it only double jumps if i jump again within like half a second, i don't know what the timeout is |
| 08:55.43 | VIad | it's always been jump, jump, glide |
| 08:55.51 | VIad | regardless of time ,_, |
| 08:55.53 | VIad | going to test now |
| 08:55.57 | VIad | blizz might have changed stuff |
| 08:55.58 | Semlar | if i walk off a cliff it will only glide |
| 08:56.12 | VIad | blizz changed it |
| 08:56.22 | Semlar | if you say so |
| 08:56.25 | VIad | yeah |
| 08:56.33 | VIad | I was a master of gliding and jumping earlier in the beta |
| 08:56.40 | VIad | dala was bugged |
| 08:56.45 | VIad | had to jump and stuff off dalaran :p |
| 08:56.50 | VIad | to get to the FP |
| 08:57.21 | VIad | I'm telling you, they changed the behavior in a path |
| 08:57.23 | VIad | patch |
| 08:57.39 | VIad | I specifically remember holding off the second jump for longer period of time than just a 5 yards fall |
| 08:58.00 | VIad | btw if you spam space during the infernal strike (tank leap ability) it spams the chat |
| 08:58.11 | VIad | so seems the DH jump logic only works when player is in control perhaps |
| 08:58.16 | VIad | not mid animations |
| 08:59.26 | VIad | why don't you believe me, Semlar? |
| 09:14.39 | NodusCursorius | "if i walk off a cliff it will only glide" |
| 09:14.50 | NodusCursorius | Different experience than you, I'd imagine. |
| 09:15.43 | VIad | :) |
| 09:16.22 | NodusCursorius | It's a healthy cynicism. He'll remember your statement about Blizzard changing it, and possibly recite it to others as a "may have changed". |
| 09:16.44 | NodusCursorius | But won't commit to your True Faith until he can confirm it with his own bear hands. |
| 09:18.26 | VIad | DH jumps and glide takes you 8yards cirka |
| 09:18.44 | VIad | on flat ground |
| 09:19.01 | VIad | hmm |
| 09:19.09 | VIad | wish there was a way to lock the camera to the characters angle |
| 09:19.15 | VIad | i.e. the direction the character is facing |
| 09:19.27 | VIad | like when flying, cockpit mode :p |
| 09:19.50 | VIad | if you could, could use GetUnitPitch and draw 3d stuff again :< |
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| 10:14.12 | Semlar | i can't figure out why GameTooltip is immediately fading out after i set it to a unit when hovering over my unit frames |
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| 10:36.22 | Semlar | it looks like it specifically happens when i move the mouse from one unitframe to another one |
| 10:39.17 | VIad | I also notice weirdnes when changing targets, the dropdown hides automatically |
| 10:43.21 | VIad | you know in the neltharion's lair, Ularogg Cragshaper |
| 10:43.29 | VIad | you can probably track the correct statue by inspecting the UnitGUID |
| 10:43.31 | VIad | his spawns first :p |
| 10:43.42 | VIad | the ending digits are a incrementing counter, right? |
| 10:45.49 | nevcairiel | not necessarily |
| 10:46.01 | nevcairiel | but its not like its actually hard to trace it |
| 10:46.25 | Semlar | it looks like it only works if i delay the the SetUnit by at least 1 frame |
| 10:46.42 | Semlar | otherwise it fades out |
| 10:55.09 | VIad | nevcairiel: lazy :d |
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| 11:14.43 | VIad | tbh blizz needs more creative explorers in their QA teams |
| 11:16.05 | NodusCursorius | You did it again, nev |
| 11:17.01 | VIad | NodusCursorius: what? |
| 11:18.11 | VIad | I brokened game again :( http://ss.bool.no/capture_1464434277.png |
| 11:19.45 | VIad | only fix blizz can do is go back on the DH doublejump glide thing :p |
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| 12:19.20 | VIad | I killed an elite when leveling, now he uses a spell that deals like 95% of my hp after 15 seconds, and he keeps recasting it - amazing :p |
| 12:56.26 | Yoshimo | these elitemobs that crush you, i hate them with passion since the one that walks over hellfire peninsula in BC ;) |
| 12:57.29 | Yoshimo | then you bring your friends in later to get revenge and they don't drop any usefull item at all |
| 13:04.03 | nevcairiel | its like they double troll you |
| 13:07.10 | nevcairiel | there is plenty of those in legion zones |
| 13:11.06 | Yoshimo | yea and there are quite a few people that like that danger |
| 13:11.48 | nevcairiel | i play a nightelf tank, so i dont die instantly and i can shadowmeld them away, it doesnt bother me much =p |
| 13:11.59 | nevcairiel | but i like that they exist |
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| 14:22.25 | Simca | Semlar / NodusCursorius: I capitalized Semlar's cvar stuff from live (using capitalization from 21691) and then diffed it against Nodus' 21691 diffs to get a live vs legion cvar diff |
| 14:22.31 | Simca | and i put it in the thread's OP |
| 14:23.04 | NodusCursorius | Simca++; |
| 14:23.29 | NodusCursorius | Thanks so much. Now we just have to remind people who expand on it in the future to delete their WTF folder first. |
| 14:26.15 | NodusCursorius | I know Predicate has already pulled in a few new CVars as of latest patch too. Hoping her and I think of a way to simplify people gathering the latest data. |
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| 15:02.28 | Semlar | i think i'll just not sleep today |
| 15:03.01 | Semlar | it's already 11 |
| 15:06.56 | mckenziemc | tranquilizes Semlar. |
| 15:18.23 | Semlar | it's not very effective.. |
| 15:24.38 | mckenziemc | you're not very effective |
| 15:26.49 | karl_w_w | https://i.imgur.com/EBtnIT4.jpg |
| 15:27.13 | karl_w_w | what the fuck is thaaaaAAAAHHHHHHH |
| 15:27.41 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 15:27.47 | Semlar | sounds like someone needs their computer debugged |
| 15:28.45 | mckenziemc | spiders are good at debugging |
| 15:29.53 | Semlar | crisis averted |
| 15:30.37 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: when i pulled my old computer out of the shed yesterday, i did not bring it into the house for a reason |
| 15:31.01 | mckenziemc | it went back into the shed in the evening because i didn't get around to opening and inspecting it :o |
| 15:36.14 | karl_w_w | hope they do it https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4lbrqn/new_xfx_fan_design_what_should_we_call_it/d3lzqq5 |
| 15:59.47 | VIad | this quest to kill theryssia - the npc doesnt spawn ,_, |
| 16:00.14 | VIad | and the other order hall quest to speak to tyrande, can't find her anywhere in valsharah anymore ,_, |
| 16:00.26 | VIad | I need those to unlock my 3rd artifact slot |
| 16:01.21 | VIad | and world server down... great |
| 16:01.56 | Yoshimo | blizzard bugreports forum is your friend |
| 16:04.11 | VIad | its known bugs |
| 16:04.34 | VIad | doesnt change the fact I cant do the quests ;d |
| 16:04.49 | VIad | luckily the world server down reset the npc at the spawn at least :p |
| 16:15.37 | VIad | DC during boss ,_, |
| 16:15.57 | VIad | its weird DCs because all is fine then suddenly |
| 16:37.51 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/mixonic/status/736575632226852865 |
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| 16:58.04 | VIad | I got so far. but in the end, it didn't even matter (invisible wall) http://ss.bool.no/capture_1464454668.png |
| 16:59.06 | mckenziemc | drops an invisible cage over VIad. |
| 16:59.13 | VIad | struggles to get out. |
| 17:01.48 | VIad | begs mckenziemc to let him out. |
| 17:07.17 | PhatsoTGT | http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2299620/1984-apple-o.gif |
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| 18:05.22 | Fisker | Hey Seerah |
| 18:07.06 | mckenziemc | removes Fisker's heying privileges. |
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| 18:47.47 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 18:59.28 | Munk | Off to see the Warcraft movie with my guild from the glory days of BC. Guaranteed spoilers when I return. |
| 19:00.34 | zenzelezz | still can't believe how long it's been since BC |
| 19:02.20 | Maldivia | about 2016 years... |
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| 20:19.41 | zenzelezz | it never comes as a surprise, but it is disheartening when you're playing a tier 5 tank in a tier 7 game of World of Tanks, and your team sucks so bad you end up top on damage |
| 20:22.07 | kullervo | zenzelezz: when you get top damage as Reinhardt in owa |
| 20:22.16 | kullervo | http://i.imgur.com/pMXalwC.webm |
| 20:24.28 | zenzelezz | kullervo: owa? |
| 20:24.48 | kullervo | overwatch |
| 20:25.04 | zenzelezz | I would say "neat", but I never played it, so I'm going to have to take your word for it that that's unusual |
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| 20:26.01 | kullervo | that was a game turning point but didn't even get play of the game replay before score screen |
| 20:26.13 | zenzelezz | it feels so weird being the only one not interested in Overwatch; but those games just haven't excited me for a decade. I'm too slow/bad |
| 20:26.59 | zenzelezz | tried just watching tournaments, but that's too fast for me to understand what's going on |
| 20:27.11 | kullervo | I play the slow and less twitchy heroes |
| 20:27.38 | kullervo | slow by some definitions, anyway |
| 20:31.15 | zenzelezz | slow is relativ, so yeah |
| 20:31.18 | zenzelezz | +e |
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| 21:02.57 | mckenziemc | search for memorial services, get cremation and funeral services, paradise memorial crematory |
| 21:03.01 | mckenziemc | duckduckgo-- |
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| 21:08.04 | kd3 | guh, what the hell, comcast? $45/mo was already a bit steep for 50/5, now it's $70? |
| 21:09.18 | zenzelezz | no change in bandwidth? |
| 21:09.25 | kd3 | nope |
| 21:09.29 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 21:09.37 | zenzelezz | did some competitor leave the area or something? |
| 21:09.42 | nevcairiel | they just increases prices on you? don't you have laws against that? |
| 21:10.26 | nevcairiel | if i have a contract, changing the price upwards is r eally hard for them |
| 21:10.46 | zenzelezz | that's a good point |
| 21:11.00 | zenzelezz | I don't know if they can do that here, without improving the bandwidth or some other aspect at the same time |
| 21:11.08 | zenzelezz | at least never happened |
| 21:11.51 | zenzelezz | right now, one of the two-ish big ISPs around are moving into my area of town. The one we currently have here, who have close to a monopoly here, are seriously freaked out |
| 21:11.58 | zenzelezz | dropping all kinds of fees |
| 21:12.32 | nevcairiel | muricans are not used to having a choice of ISP |
| 21:12.52 | kd3 | my options are comcast or adsl |
| 21:12.56 | zenzelezz | another good point |
| 21:13.02 | zenzelezz | "options" |
| 21:13.34 | nevcairiel | i also find it funny how adsl is apparently a generally bad thing in US =p |
| 21:14.15 | zenzelezz | I used ADSL for the longest time in Norway, and didn't really find anything to complain about. Only switched when I moved, because the cable TV/ISP was the norm here |
| 21:14.17 | kd3 | $30/mo for 6mbps with a 250GB cap |
| 21:14.29 | zenzelezz | caps... that's another thing that boggles my mind |
| 21:14.54 | zenzelezz | I have no clue how much I use in an average month, but I never have to bother knowing either |
| 21:15.17 | nevcairiel | no idea how the market shares for cable and DSL around here are, but I would bet DSL is still higher |
| 21:15.19 | kd3 | I'm averaging 120-180GB/mo, says comcast |
| 21:15.37 | nevcairiel | but our DSL also doesnt suck |
| 21:15.41 | nevcairiel | (most of the time) |
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| 21:27.46 | foxlit | 250GB / 6mbps in days = 3.85 days. |
| 21:29.26 | zenzelezz | well, curiosity got the best of me, let's see... |
| 21:32.33 | zenzelezz | apparently I have no clue. pfSense doesn't seem to have a "last month" statistic that I can locate with my current blood alcohol percentage |
| 21:32.44 | Semlar | it's $60 a month for 10/1 here with cable |
| 21:33.34 | foxlit | US is terrible. |
| 21:33.55 | foxlit | Pay more, get less, and by the way here's a data cap. Because money. |
| 21:34.07 | Semlar | well, i don't have a data cap but if i did i probably couldn't hit it |
| 21:35.08 | foxlit | we've established that you can hit 250GB in 4 days with a 6mbps connection. |
| 21:35.19 | zenzelezz | Semlar: Mbit or MByte? |
| 21:35.20 | foxlit | which for some reason is surprising to me. |
| 21:35.29 | Semlar | mbit |
| 21:35.35 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 21:36.02 | NodusCursorius | I question the use of "days" as a measurement choice... |
| 21:36.10 | Predicate | I don't think we can even get 10mbit cable anymore. DSL, sure, but nobody in their right minds would use that... |
| 21:36.12 | foxlit | scale. |
| 21:36.30 | nevcairiel | this month i used 418gb download, 133gb upload, dont ask me for what, i dont know! :D |
| 21:36.40 | Predicate | (It was porn) |
| 21:36.44 | NodusCursorius | It was Castle |
| 21:37.25 | Mr_Rabies | stop downloading cars, nebula |
| 21:37.25 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 21:37.27 | Mr_Rabies | nevcairiel |
| 21:37.37 | Mr_Rabies | got too greedy with the tab complete |
| 21:37.49 | nevcairiel | i did re-download a few steam titles because part of my library went poof |
| 21:37.55 | nevcairiel | thats probably at least part of that |
| 21:38.04 | nevcairiel | no clue what all the upload is though |
| 22:06.53 | mckenziemc | http://letsmakerobots.com/node/34212 "Spider 3 Servo Hexapod" |
| 22:06.55 | mckenziemc | facepalms. |
| 22:09.31 | Neffi | no Semlar |
| 22:09.41 | Semlar | why not |
| 22:09.51 | Neffi | because it is decided |
| 22:09.57 | Semlar | make it so |
| 22:10.00 | Neffi | ok |
| 22:10.14 | Neffi | Semlar, should I get overwatch for the ps4? |
| 22:10.20 | Neffi | or at all? |
| 22:11.38 | Semlar | maybe |
| 22:12.13 | Semlar | will you be playing with tpain? |
| 22:14.35 | Neffi | who is tpain |
| 22:14.39 | Neffi | is that even a real name |
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| 23:08.48 | foxlit | something needs to go through all those world quests, find the ones with equipment rewards, then figure out which are upgrades for the current character and show those in a list sorted by distance to quest area. |
| 23:09.36 | Mr_Rabies | sounds like a job for the person that made the most popular new addon of WoD :v |
| 23:09.51 | Predicate | You mean, a sort of master plan for character progression? ;) |
| 23:10.33 | Mr_Rabies | you could probably hook into pawn or something, and just use a list of known items and quest data |
| 23:11.00 | foxlit | that's a bit of a tangent. |
| 23:11.18 | foxlit | someone also needs to do that, of course, but it's a different thing. The client already knows about the available world quests and rewards. |
| 23:11.33 | foxlit | it's basically the 110 dailies. |
| 23:12.06 | Mr_Rabies | how else would you determine upgrade or not, though, other than either remaking something like pawn for the addon's use, or just hooking into pawn |
| 23:13.09 | foxlit | item level is sufficient. |
| 23:13.18 | Mr_Rabies | is it? it definitely isn't in WoD |
| 23:13.57 | Mr_Rabies | i've got like 730 ilvl if i equipped stuff from my bags, but i'd lose so many good secondary stats to bad ones that it's better to have the lower ilvl stuff |
| 23:14.13 | Mr_Rabies | not regarding set bonuses and the like |
| 23:14.18 | Mr_Rabies | just pure ilvl: stat |
| 23:15.06 | nevcairiel | for most classes the boundary where secondy stats matter is like 5 ilvl, only some classes have terribly unbalanced secondaries where this matters more |
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| 23:25.09 | nevcairiel | gearing in legion is kinda odd anyway, heroic instances require 810, normal instances drop 805 ... so they kinda expect you to gear outside of instances for heroics. world quests reward 810 mostly, but barely cover all slots and I havent seen weapon relics yet... |
| 23:25.45 | foxlit | might be easier to settle for showing equipment comparison tooltips alongside world quest tips. |
| 23:28.11 | foxlit | kind of sad about the order hall mission ui |
| 23:31.41 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.07 | kd3 | icann, you've gone too far |
| 23:37.32 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.32 | Neffi | wtf is a guge |
| 23:41.15 | foxlit | it's supicious that they missed .googl |
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| 23:49.52 | Semlar | .wow |
