| 00:03.10 | Semlar | had to check just to make sure, they definitely changed this for legion |
| 00:03.58 | Predicate | You're talking about /cast spell1 /cast spell2, right? Not one of the castsequence hacks/ |
| 00:04.03 | Semlar | yes |
| 00:04.16 | Predicate | That only works if spell1 is off the GCD, yeah. |
| 00:04.56 | Semlar | what i'm saying is, if you have a spell with an actual cooldown and you macro it before another spell, it will prevent anything else in that macro from casting |
| 00:05.16 | Predicate | Right, it will attempt at most one spell. |
| 00:05.26 | Semlar | that's not how it works on live |
| 00:05.55 | Semlar | the macro /cast arcane torrent /cast jab will cast arcane torrent, and if arcane torrent is on cooldown it will cast jab anyway |
| 00:06.19 | kullervo | arcane torrent is off gcd |
| 00:06.24 | Semlar | holy shit |
| 00:06.26 | kullervo | like pretty much all cooldowns |
| 00:06.27 | Semlar | the GCD doesn't matter |
| 00:06.32 | Semlar | it's on COOLDOWN |
| 00:06.39 | Predicate | It does matter, that's what we're telling you. |
| 00:06.51 | kullervo | it attempts to use the ability and triggeres gcd |
| 00:06.58 | kullervo | if there's one to be triggered |
| 00:07.09 | Semlar | foxlit help |
| 00:07.11 | kullervo | pretty sure it works like this |
| 00:07.16 | kullervo | I'll go for a nap |
| 00:07.33 | Predicate | Are you using the exact same abilities on live and beta to test this? |
| 00:08.01 | kullervo | you need to test something that's on gcd |
| 00:08.16 | Semlar | if it doesn't cast the ability it's not triggering a gcd |
| 00:08.44 | Semlar | attempting to cast an ability that's on cooldown doesn't trigger the gcd |
| 00:08.49 | Predicate | "off GCD" is a category of spells |
| 00:09.03 | Predicate | Spells in that category can fall through. |
| 00:09.21 | kullervo | and don't trigger gcd |
| 00:09.48 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/Wow-64_2016-05-22_03-09-44.png |
| 00:09.50 | kullervo | these all have cooldowns |
| 00:10.18 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/Wow-64_2016-05-22_03-10-13.png |
| 00:10.29 | kullervo | QED |
| 00:11.23 | kullervo | no abilities are cast if the first one is on cd |
| 00:13.44 | Predicate | Semlar: http://wow.gamepedia.com/Making_a_macro#Multiple_actions_with_one_click explains the logic, if you need further details |
| 00:14.10 | Predicate | "Even if a spell fails to cast, if it *would* trigger the GCD, it prevents subsequent /casts in the macro from running. This was not the case prior to patch 2.0" |
| 00:15.02 | Ironii | isn't semlar talking about spells that are off gcd but they will stop the macro if they are on cd? |
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| 00:16.13 | Predicate | If that were the case, he wouldn't have been arguing that the GCD doesn't matter |
| 00:17.09 | Predicate | I'm pretty sure he was testing with an off-GCD spell on live, and an on-GCD spell on beta, but he didn't answer when I asked if he tried the exact same spells. |
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| 00:44.49 | Spriithy | I was wondering, how may I change the default player Health bar texture to be the same as the RaidUnit frame ? |
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| 04:12.45 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 04:12.53 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 04:13.04 | Fisker | Hey Iriel |
| 04:15.10 | mckenziemc | group-hugs Fisker and Cairenn. |
| 04:15.18 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
| 04:15.55 | Fisker | doesn't really do non-Cairenn based hugs |
| 04:17.51 | mckenziemc | that's too bad |
| 04:18.40 | mckenziemc | did your mom not hug you enough when you were young, Fisker :9 |
| 04:18.41 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 04:22.17 | Iriel | Lo Fisker |
| 04:22.40 | Fisker | I prefer to be Hi Fisker |
| 04:23.49 | mckenziemc | No Fisker |
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| 05:40.55 | Semlar | here neffi https://gfycat.com/GlumUnawareIndianelephant |
| 06:05.45 | Predicate | Your mind must be an interesting place to live. |
| 06:12.27 | Semlar | https://gfycat.com/UnpleasantHatefulHake |
| 06:22.27 | Semlar | i couldn't get the stupid 3d models to scale correctly |
| 06:22.52 | Semlar | i think i might have to add a script to scale them after their model loads or something |
| 06:23.52 | Yoshimo | does each quest in Legion have different rewards for each level now that the quests and the mobs scale with the player level? |
| 06:29.48 | nebula | would assume the quest reward is just scaled to your level |
| 06:31.52 | Yoshimo | it is a matter of recording data so i was wondering how they did it |
| 06:36.30 | nebula | same way everything else is scaled, with bonus ids |
| 06:55.49 | FireSiku_ | Semlar: How did you pull off the arrows pointing at your character? You found some other cvar to mess with? |
| 06:56.37 | Semlar | nah they're basically just lines between the center of the screen and the nameplate |
| 06:56.54 | Semlar | although i can draw them between nameplates |
| 06:57.08 | Semlar | to show who's targeting what |
| 06:57.29 | FireSiku_ | That's really smart. |
| 06:59.22 | Semlar | i need more things on the screen |
| 06:59.36 | Semlar | i made a list |
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| 09:18.17 | VIad | [TOM_RUS]: you can pvp flag and kill npcs that roam, and guards will be hostile. wonder if you can get - rep if you kill a guard :p |
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| 11:21.58 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZkWL2mndY |
| 11:28.03 | VIad | dank memes :d |
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| 11:43.54 | VIad | Torhal: sounds retarded when you swap it like that |
| 11:44.14 | Torhal | TBH it sounds asinine either way. |
| 11:44.29 | VIad | I guess I am just too used to vegans at this point |
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| 12:06.37 | VIad | Semlar: I need some of your math |
| 12:07.14 | VIad | using UnitPosition and GetPlayerFacing and I have a specific location I wish to go towards |
| 12:07.21 | VIad | how exactly would I go about the maths? |
| 12:08.44 | nevcairiel | use my map math library =p |
| 12:09.40 | VIad | I will take a look |
| 12:09.51 | nevcairiel | that particular math isnt hard though |
| 12:10.06 | nevcairiel | what do you really want to calculate? distance? angle? |
| 12:10.10 | VIad | make an arrow |
| 12:10.32 | VIad | distance is easy to calculate, but next step is the direction the player should be going, and make an angle out of that :p |
| 12:10.54 | nevcairiel | angle is simple, atan2(deltaX, deltaY) |
| 12:11.33 | nevcairiel | high school geometry =p |
| 12:12.03 | nebula | atan2(y, x) |
| 12:12.07 | nebula | ! |
| 12:12.36 | nevcairiel | maybe your x and y are something else |
| 12:13.02 | nevcairiel | UnitPosition returns y,x for my understanding, not x,y |
| 12:13.44 | jnwhiteh | *hugs* |
| 12:16.24 | VIad | so I calculate dX and dY (my position and the position I wish to go to), plit it in the atan2 and I have my angle offset between our points |
| 12:17.03 | VIad | then I have to apply GetPlayerFacing to get something usable in wow |
| 12:17.25 | nebula | i don't think i'ved atan2 in wow, but the function normally takes (y,x) |
| 12:19.34 | VIad | nebula: yes, I noticed it seems like it produces more understandable numbers if I do (y,x) |
| 12:19.56 | VIad | returns pi when I have to turn and look behind me |
| 12:20.04 | VIad | 0 when I look at it |
| 12:20.13 | VIad | 1.8 when on the right side |
| 12:20.20 | VIad | -1.8 when on the left side |
| 12:20.21 | nevcairiel | the wow coordinate system is slightly confusing |
| 12:20.55 | VIad | but how would I go about applying my GetPlayerFacing() to the angle? |
| 12:22.26 | VIad | found something from tomtom, nevcairiel |
| 12:22.30 | VIad | I will borrow the math |
| 12:22.46 | VIad | local perc = math.abs((math.pi - math.abs(angle)) / math.pi) |
| 12:26.06 | VIad | -1 to 1 number indicating how I am doing |
| 12:26.10 | VIad | thanks for the help nevcairiel and nebula |
| 12:34.04 | PhatsoTGT | is fiddling with CVars in onUpdate a good idea? |
| 12:34.56 | haste | it doesn't sound like a very good idea |
| 12:35.22 | PhatsoTGT | thats what my first reaction was too |
| 12:35.28 | PhatsoTGT | just cant figure out why |
| 12:35.55 | PhatsoTGT | guy did a pretty good job doing it tho: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/4kfw98/legionaddon_playing_around_with_legions_new/ |
| 12:36.44 | PhatsoTGT | people already talking about putting actioncam modes into macros lol |
| 12:59.12 | [TOM_RUS] | nevcairiel, UnitPosition returns x,y |
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| 13:16.25 | VIad | nevcairiel: I am having some issues with the angles. if I spin my camera around, the correctness starts to falter :p |
| 13:20.48 | VIad | is this okay? return (math.pi - math.abs(angle - facing)) / math.pi |
| 13:22.42 | VIad | local angle = math.atan2(deltaX, deltaY) |
| 13:22.54 | VIad | angle goes from -pi to pi |
| 13:23.08 | VIad | just based on me and destination coordinates |
| 13:23.20 | VIad | when I circle around the point, I get these ranges, they seem normal |
| 13:23.36 | VIad | but probably something to do with how I merge my angle and that angle, that makes stuff go weird |
| 13:29.22 | VIad | GetPlayerFacing is math.pi*2 for starters, probably something to do with that, while my angle is just math.pi |
| 13:37.31 | PhatsoTGT | yo Semlar. put your Magic in a Box |
| 13:37.32 | PhatsoTGT | https://github.com/PhatsoTheGhostlyTauren/MojoUI/commit/78a12f4910240e58a408b085d5eb10f88ea67768#diff-ab534a7d345ace379e06b16f615c814eR27 |
| 13:38.50 | PhatsoTGT | works like a goddamn charm |
| 13:39.14 | PhatsoTGT | the more fps you get the more it blends in |
| 13:41.08 | VIad | got to to work, math might not be perfect, but managed to normalize |
| 14:21.57 | VIad | does LOADING_SCREEN_ENABLED/LOADING_SCREEN_DISABLED indicate if the loading screen is on? how can I be so stupid ,_, |
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| 14:29.07 | nevcairiel | [TOM_RUS]: that entirely depends how you define x and y, if you map it to the flat map, the first parameter is north/south, which is typically considered y in such a system |
| 14:31.28 | nevcairiel | so for map purposes, i feel its much easier to consider it returning y,x, even if in a proper 3d coordinate system it might be x,y,z |
| 14:32.09 | mckenziemc | read the docs... oh wait |
| 14:35.15 | [TOM_RUS] | nevcairiel, it returns 3d coords, so it's x, y (it even used to return proper z for a bit on PTR, but they shortly hardcoded it to 0 for some reason) |
| 14:35.56 | nevcairiel | your statement contains no new information |
| 14:36.11 | nevcairiel | maps are not in 3d though =p |
| 14:37.04 | mckenziemc | they're projections of a 3d space though :o |
| 14:37.59 | [TOM_RUS] | it has nothing to do with maps, so? |
| 14:38.17 | nevcairiel | maybe you should understand the context before commenting, then |
| 14:38.57 | nevcairiel | if you want to translate UnitPosition to something that makes sense for maps, you need to flip x and y at some point, is all |
| 14:38.57 | [TOM_RUS] | context is UnitPosition, and it's 3d position, not map position |
| 14:39.51 | [TOM_RUS] | yes you need to flip it, it doesnt change the fait it returns x,y, not y,x |
| 14:41.22 | [TOM_RUS] | fact* |
| 14:47.08 | nevcairiel | and all I said is that this is a matter of perspective, z is always 0 which makes the 3d coordinate kinda useless, so one might as well consider it a 2d coordinate system, and in that case x and y are not what most people might expect |
| 14:47.52 | nevcairiel | technically it is correct, in practice its just easier to think of it the way most people are going to use it |
| 14:53.33 | [TOM_RUS] | not everyone uses it for map purposes, so saying it returns y,x isn't correct |
| 15:24.46 | VIad | I fixed my thing using http://pastebin.com/FYva8zpC |
| 15:25.44 | VIad | in this particular map, the north is also the north in the unitposition world :p |
| 15:30.27 | VIad | oh noo, damn it, hbonordic had the latest game of thrones episode on the list, then I refreshed the page and it disappeared :o |
| 15:33.38 | PhatsoTGT | its on various torrenting sites |
| 15:33.45 | PhatsoTGT | fucking rofl |
| 15:36.54 | [TOM_RUS] | VIad, im missing something, or "+value" and then "-value" gives exact same value? what the point of doing that? |
| 15:38.37 | VIad | will have to look at it after :p I noticed |
| 15:40.10 | foxlit | also, where is this magical map where the west-east axis is the first return of UnitPosition? |
| 15:41.09 | VIad | on legion atm |
| 15:41.20 | foxlit | where on legion? |
| 15:42.17 | VIad | hall of valors |
| 15:43.19 | nevcairiel | for the angle it doesnt really matter which coordinate comes first, the angle just has a different orientation |
| 15:43.38 | nevcairiel | nothing a few pi's wont fix |
| 15:46.41 | VIad | fun fun, made a simple addon to point to the correct rune to run to, want to try it out :p |
| 15:46.54 | VIad | tbh not often I work with coordinates so a bit of fun |
| 15:50.44 | Fisker | I need cooling nevcairiel |
| 16:02.16 | foxlit | VIad: hall of valors << (a) it's "Halls of Valor" (b) you're wrong about the axes. |
| 16:02.43 | VIad | but it works for me :< |
| 16:03.50 | mckenziemc | freezes Fisker. |
| 16:03.57 | karl_w_w | what language are ios apps written in? |
| 16:04.21 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn before freezing to death |
| 16:04.23 | VIad | some version of C isnt it? |
| 16:04.29 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 16:04.32 | karl_w_w | jeez what a tough life |
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| 16:17.42 | Simca | Objective C |
| 16:18.31 | Simca | my basic understanding of it is that it is like an alternate version of C++; something meant to extend the C language for OOP |
| 16:18.41 | Torhal | The syntax is horrifying. |
| 16:19.09 | Simca | but i've never actually used it |
| 16:19.22 | mckenziemc | recodes Torhal in Qt. |
| 16:19.42 | Torhal | I thought about learning it until I saw what it looked like and went "WTF?!?" |
| 16:19.56 | Torhal | QT isn't a language, mckenziemc. You fail. |
| 16:20.23 | mckenziemc | it doesn't have to be a language - you fail |
| 16:20.31 | mckenziemc | it's an environment |
| 16:20.57 | Simca | can i fail next? |
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| 16:26.48 | pompy | original: https://media.giphy.com/media/YA1XuG9TCAOn6/giphy.gif |
| 16:27.03 | pompy | edited: https://gfycat.com/MilkyFalseDwarfrabbit |
| 16:40.07 | VIad | btw about latest got episode http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-6-episode-5-hbo-accidentally-leak-the-door-online-a7042246.html |
| 16:40.14 | VIad | kek - I saw it in the list, but I failed to click on it :< |
| 16:56.30 | Gnarfoz | why is gfycat so terrible |
| 17:01.15 | fewyn | because |
| 17:05.35 | pompy | what happened Gnarfoz |
| 17:05.49 | Gnarfoz | pompy: hm? |
| 17:05.56 | pompy | (5/22/2016 12:56:30 PM) Gnarfoz: why is gfycat so terrible |
| 17:06.47 | Gnarfoz | nothing is happening, that's the problem. they seem to not have enough bandwidth |
| 17:10.28 | pompy | it plays for me |
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| 18:37.48 | nevcairiel | their things load terrible slow in general |
| 18:41.47 | zork-tdmog | tested the animation widget changes if someone is interested: https://github.com/zorker/rothui/blob/master/wow7.0/rAnimationWidget/core.lua |
| 18:42.24 | foxlit | were the results positive? |
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| 18:51.57 | zork-tdmog | could not find any errors but I cannot get my model viewer working with animations. the main window is a fullscreen frame that should fadeIn on click with animation set to alpha. |
| 18:52.04 | zork-tdmog | crashes the client all the time. |
| 18:52.18 | zork-tdmog | animations on a texture object seem to work fine |
| 18:53.36 | Semlar | i tried to make a path animation a while back and crashed the game using the example on http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Path/ |
| 18:54.24 | Semlar | it was from calling SetOrder on a control point |
| 18:59.09 | zork-tdmog | need to write another test for frames now. though it work just fine in the model viewer but it crashes the client. maybe loading a frame containing a couple of models is just to much to handle \°/ |
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| 19:22.43 | zork-tdmog | ok forget that |
| 19:22.58 | zork-tdmog | has nothing to do with the animation widgets |
| 19:25.24 | zork-tdmog | problem was probably a fucked up savedvariable in my modelviewer |
| 19:27.31 | Semlar | https://gfycat.com/RashWateryCurlew :( |
| 19:28.48 | Gnarfoz | wtb gfycat rehosting service |
| 19:28.50 | Gnarfoz | D: |
| 19:28.59 | Semlar | works fine for me |
| 19:29.15 | nevcairiel | it loads in snail speed |
| 19:29.25 | nevcairiel | often even the html itself loads slow |
| 19:29.27 | Gnarfoz | doesn't even load the html |
| 19:31.49 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/HhwkjTu.gifv |
| 19:32.54 | Gnarfoz | works fine with a UK vpn |
| 19:33.08 | Gnarfoz | so I blame someone's peering :| |
| 19:33.20 | Gnarfoz | also Semlar, I want that addon D: |
| 19:33.22 | Semlar | i'm in florida and don't usually have any problems with gfycat |
| 19:33.33 | Semlar | which addon |
| 19:33.37 | Gnarfoz | https://gfycat.com/GlumUnawareIndianelephant |
| 19:34.12 | Gnarfoz | to turn it into something that points to enemy quest NPCs / quest givers / target / focus, whatever ^^ |
| 19:34.21 | Semlar | https://gfycat.com/UnpleasantHatefulHake |
| 19:34.29 | Gnarfoz | well yes, you linked that before |
| 19:34.39 | Semlar | HEADS |
| 19:34.40 | Gnarfoz | (that's busier than the other one) |
| 19:34.41 | karl_w_w | https://gfycat.com/PlayfulEachIsopod 700 fps eye |
| 19:35.11 | karl_w_w | that makes me want to not look around |
| 19:35.22 | Gnarfoz | it makes me want to look around even more |
| 19:35.39 | Semlar | being able to set the nameplate distance is kind of a double edged sword when you can only display 30 nameplates |
| 19:36.32 | Semlar | you could make it larger and get information about more units but then you run the risk of hitting the cap |
| 19:36.46 | Semlar | maybe it could be dynamically adjusted |
| 19:37.28 | Semlar | right now nameplates get redrawn when you set any cvar though so that might mess with their display |
| 19:38.26 | Semlar | if you actually have more than 30 units on the screen i assume that would also shuffle around which units have nameplates |
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| 19:41.16 | zork-tdmog | wtf they killed your scrollframe version? |
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| 19:41.52 | Semlar | i think the part that's being clipped by the scrollframe isn't moving when the scrollframe gets re-anchored |
| 19:42.03 | Semlar | i didn't really look into it too much |
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| 19:42.39 | Semlar | if that's the case it could be fixed by just making 4 scrollframes instead of 1 |
| 19:43.38 | Semlar | i think it's a bug though |
| 19:44.54 | zork-tdmog | it worked fine before |
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| 20:04.22 | zork-tdmog | check out displayid 67918 |
| 20:05.39 | Semlar | it looks like a skybox |
| 20:07.07 | Semlar | maybe it's for a hologram or something |
| 20:08.31 | zork-tdmog | looks really cool |
| 20:15.08 | zork-tdmog | haha 65662 :) |
| 20:23.21 | Predicate | Semlar: WTB QuestPlates functionality in those, too. |
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| 20:37.16 | Semlar | o.o |
| 20:38.15 | PhatsoTGT | Vlad Exorsus has such a feature for Kromog Runes |
| 20:38.22 | PhatsoTGT | might check that out |
| 20:38.33 | PhatsoTGT | semlar |
| 20:39.23 | PhatsoTGT | did you see what i wrote this morning? |
| 20:39.38 | PhatsoTGT | wrapped that function you send me in a nice package https://github.com/PhatsoTheGhostlyTauren/MojoUI/blob/master/mojoapi/events.lua#L30 |
| 20:45.41 | foxlit | Semlar, look at what your irresponsibility has wrought. |
| 20:46.07 | Semlar | :( |
| 20:46.51 | Semlar | people keep sending me text messages with emojis in them and my flip phone like cuts the entire message off at that point |
| 20:47.06 | Semlar | it's great |
| 20:47.15 | Semlar | because i then have to send them a reply saying i can't read their god damn message |
| 20:47.35 | Semlar | i'm gonna have to get a smart phone |
| 20:51.01 | Predicate | I dunno, replacing friends is cheaper than replacing electronics. |
| 20:52.53 | Semlar | replacing my mother is going to be more complicated |
| 20:53.57 | Predicate | Your mother uses emojis? |
| 20:54.06 | Predicate | My parents can't even figure out how to send a text. |
| 20:54.24 | Semlar | i have no idea because i can't read the message |
| 20:54.41 | Semlar | it's generally because of emojis |
| 20:55.11 | Semlar | they use some markup that my phone interprets incorrectly |
| 20:55.41 | Semlar | since it was made before they invented emojis |
| 20:56.32 | Semlar | if it didn't break the entire message i wouldn't have any problem with it stripping them out |
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| 21:04.11 | VIad | PhatsoTGT: :d |
| 21:04.27 | PhatsoTGT | ? |
| 21:07.16 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 21:09.39 | zork-tdmog | my favorites from the current displayid search 51000-73000: http://imgur.com/a/34ce7 |
| 21:13.09 | Semlar | zork-tdmog: if you haven't noticed, you can actually get a list of what animations a model has |
| 21:13.17 | Semlar | and you can play them |
| 21:14.21 | Semlar | i was thinking about making a model viewer with animation previews but i probably won't get to it |
| 21:14.44 | mckenziemc | too many other addons to work on and not release? |
| 21:14.54 | Semlar | yeah |
| 21:15.16 | Predicate | Life is hard :( |
| 21:16.01 | zork-tdmog | that sounds nice |
| 21:16.06 | zork-tdmog | how do I get that list? |
| 21:17.54 | Semlar | i did it with for i = 0, 1103 do if model:HasAnimation(i) |
| 21:18.21 | Semlar | tells you whether whatever is in the model frame has a particular animation |
| 21:18.44 | Semlar | so you can record which ids are valid |
| 21:19.20 | Semlar | and the ids technically correspond to specific animations but i don't know if there's a list that names them |
| 21:19.26 | Semlar | maybe there's on in wowmodelviewer |
| 21:19.40 | Semlar | s/on/one |
| 21:25.23 | Semlar | you can rotate them on all the axes now too |
| 21:26.04 | Semlar | there's SetPitch and SetRoll |
| 21:27.05 | Semlar | there's also TransformCameraSpaceToModelSpace which takes x,y,z but i'm not sure exactly what it converts |
| 21:30.18 | Predicate | For details on the animation IDs you probably want to look in AnimationData.db2: https://wowdev.wiki/DB/AnimationData |
| 21:33.50 | Semlar | do you know if the animations have defined names somewhere |
| 21:34.00 | Semlar | like "death animation" |
| 21:34.11 | Predicate | Uh, the Name field? |
| 21:34.33 | Semlar | quiet you |
| 21:35.14 | Predicate | Pretty sure those are the names used for WoW Model Viewer, WowHead, etc. |
| 21:38.36 | Semlar | i think there's actually only 5 fields in this file |
| 21:38.54 | Semlar | but it does have a name |
| 21:42.20 | Semlar | zork-tdmog: http://hastebin.com/esiqubabex.lua |
| 21:49.04 | zork-tdmog | thx |
| 21:54.31 | zork-tdmog | screen saver looks awesome: http://imgur.com/TY3Wb6b |
| 21:55.04 | Semlar | needs more flying toasters |
| 21:56.47 | Munk | all praise zorks model viewer |
| 21:58.48 | Predicate | So, apparently this can happen http://i.imgur.com/Ssg7L84.png |
| 21:59.49 | VIad | kullervo: |
| 22:00.28 | kullervo | what |
| 22:00.31 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1463954421.png |
| 22:00.32 | VIad | :D |
| 22:00.37 | VIad | the coziest room in wow |
| 22:00.46 | kullervo | oh you made it there, gz |
| 22:00.59 | Arrowmaster | you can still get there? |
| 22:01.11 | VIad | the first gate you can die and run as ghost |
| 22:01.16 | VIad | the second you just doublejump as DH :p |
| 22:01.28 | VIad | they changed the entrance, so maybe coming world quest |
| 22:02.31 | VIad | OH |
| 22:02.41 | VIad | they work on a shortcut from the entrance down to the pit of criminals :d |
| 22:02.58 | VIad | looking at the skeleton pile in the basement, there is a hole in the ceiling leading up to the entrance, one way trip |
| 22:03.33 | kullervo | and now you think |
| 22:03.35 | kullervo | WHO DID THIS? |
| 22:04.14 | VIad | :d |
| 22:05.07 | VIad | I can't imagine the room being this creepy though |
| 22:05.09 | VIad | its a kids game |
| 22:05.15 | VIad | too many corpses of humans hanging upside down |
| 22:05.32 | kd3 | oh, did someone get into the upside-down sinners room? |
| 22:05.51 | VIad | yeah |
| 22:06.28 | NodusCursorius | "<VIad> its a kids game" |
| 22:06.37 | VIad | I mean visually it cant be made too horrific |
| 22:06.50 | kullervo | I find it odd tbh |
| 22:06.53 | NodusCursorius | The number of hanging bodies seems like a trivial quantity when compared to the number of Quillboars farmed for asses and tusks. |
| 22:06.54 | kullervo | all of them should be upside down |
| 22:07.28 | VIad | :p |
| 22:07.39 | VIad | they did remove a lot of hanging bodies in deadwind pass |
| 22:07.42 | VIad | and added spiders |
| 22:07.47 | kullervo | hmm |
| 22:08.00 | kullervo | are there any left? |
| 22:08.09 | VIad | think only in the crypt |
| 22:08.11 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1463954874.png |
| 22:08.17 | VIad | the new things, the rest is the same |
| 22:08.24 | mckenziemc | i'm sure no kid ever played the half-life games |
| 22:08.32 | NodusCursorius | Those bodies have also been there for quite some time, as they aren no longer floating from any gas created during decomposition. |
| 22:08.55 | VIad | the entrance gate is different, see, moved it down the stairs :p http://ss.bool.no/capture_1463954914.png |
| 22:09.18 | kullervo | I figured they'd only sink after the flesh rotted off enough |
| 22:09.46 | VIad | hmm... my spectral sight dont work on some ghost npcs :/ |
| 22:11.10 | NodusCursorius | Does it work on the NPCs around Caer Darrow, just outside Scholomance? |
| 22:11.17 | VIad | hmm |
| 22:11.18 | VIad | let me see |
| 22:12.00 | VIad | didnt they remove the npcs in cata? |
| 22:12.01 | VIad | like, purged |
| 22:12.14 | VIad | if someone still have the item, could check :p |
| 22:12.38 | VIad | in front of scholo soon, but where was caer darrow, NodusCursorius? |
| 22:12.52 | kd3 | caer darrow is the island scholo is on |
| 22:12.55 | Predicate | That whole island area. |
| 22:13.00 | VIad | ah yes |
| 22:13.03 | VIad | going to check now |
| 22:13.11 | VIad | took dalaran portal to dalaran crater |
| 22:13.15 | VIad | weas quick |
| 22:13.25 | VIad | I fear the npcs are gone though :( |
| 22:13.28 | VIad | blizz likes to purge stuff |
| 22:14.06 | Predicate | They should still be there, if you have Spectral Essence you can still see them. |
| 22:14.11 | VIad | I see a normal NPC there :p |
| 22:14.15 | VIad | magnus frostwake |
| 22:14.36 | VIad | something is wrong with the sight ability |
| 22:14.42 | VIad | rats glow, but not the ghost npc :p |
| 22:14.42 | Predicate | You're looking for something like this: http://www.wowhead.com/npc=11277/caer-darrow-citizen |
| 22:14.57 | VIad | nope dope |
| 22:14.59 | VIad | not here |
| 22:17.05 | VIad | btw Semlar, with the ability to extract info from a model |
| 22:17.07 | VIad | like gear wise |
| 22:17.16 | VIad | jandice barov achievement |
| 22:17.19 | kullervo | VIad: report the spectral sight |
| 22:17.34 | Semlar | it doesn't work on NPCs |
| 22:18.04 | VIad | :< |
| 22:18.30 | Predicate | Do her different appearances use different model IDs? Seems like you could just use that info in a boss mod |
| 22:18.33 | Semlar | you remember me saying you can't actually set a dressupmodel to an npc |
| 22:18.58 | zork-tdmog | time for bed, gn8 |
| 22:19.20 | Semlar | i don't think you can get her display ID either since you'd have to set the model to a unit |
| 22:19.33 | Semlar | you could try |
| 22:19.43 | Predicate | Nameplate UnitIDs, though? |
| 22:20.08 | VIad | Predicate: did a good job on it, they use the same guid |
| 22:20.10 | Semlar | i don't know how her fight is handled |
| 22:20.28 | VIad | I too tried cheating like that but didnt find anything |
| 22:20.32 | VIad | had to literally compare models |
| 22:20.47 | VIad | Semlar: what was the command to get visual info from a model? :( |
| 22:20.58 | Semlar | it would be GetDisplayInfo |
| 22:20.58 | kd3 | the mod I used, you clicked on her at the start of the fight and it put up a huge copy of her model on screen. in the split phase, you had to click on the splits and compare |
| 22:21.14 | VIad | yes, like kd3 :p |
| 22:22.04 | Semlar | i don't think GetDisplayInfo works unless the model has been set with SetDisplayInfo |
| 22:22.48 | Semlar | i think it's unlikely that you can set her to a dressupmodel and get her gear, either |
| 22:23.14 | Semlar | you can't do that with regular npcs |
| 22:25.31 | VIad | on a npc the getdisplayinfo is 0 |
| 22:25.52 | Semlar | i think it literally just tells you what you set something to with SetDisplayInfo |
| 22:26.16 | VIad | yea |
| 22:26.50 | kullervo | cushions have been nerfed |
| 22:26.55 | kullervo | they prefer to spawn at your feet now |
| 22:27.15 | VIad | kullervo: :< |
| 22:27.48 | kullervo | it's actually very good for RP, I complained about this in a guild meeting |
| 22:27.57 | kullervo | the alliance hall is much better but still couldn't hold every active player |
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| 22:29.24 | VIad | in a sense, blizz got better at blocking you in dungeons by just making the model hitboxes flat and stretch infinitely :p |
| 22:29.38 | VIad | in older models, they made hitboxes actually where the model is, not the empty space around it |
| 22:29.55 | VIad | so a broken gate is kind of a flat surface wall, not like old days, you could get a peak through with LOS and manage to get past |
| 22:31.13 | VIad | btw you know you can get in the old stratholme, kullervo? |
| 22:31.16 | VIad | in EPL |
| 22:31.24 | VIad | the one in the open world |
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| 22:32.20 | kullervo | never tired |
| 22:32.24 | kullervo | tried, but suspected it was possible |
| 22:33.18 | kullervo | you can get under the garrison pretty easily but the DCs are annoying |
| 22:35.06 | [TOM_RUS] | good old times when they weren't checking if you are under terrain... |
| 22:35.19 | VIad | you can just enter/leave and reset until you hit the max limit |
| 22:35.25 | VIad | then you can almost just walk in |
| 22:36.21 | kullervo | ah right well I suppose that works |
| 22:37.22 | VIad | just a small wall you need to clip through |
| 22:37.33 | VIad | btw the day of the dead fighting outfit is excelent, has a jump that ignores some LOS |
| 22:38.51 | VIad | eh... I ran out of strath but didnt get ported so out in the old world :p |
| 22:39.17 | VIad | I see some red marker indicating a structure position |
| 22:39.56 | VIad | so much world outside an area you arent supposed to be in |
| 22:40.04 | VIad | oh boy, the old EPL, memories |
| 22:40.12 | VIad | the crossing to ghostlands and to the camp :d |
| 22:40.20 | VIad | with the patroling elite on the road |
| 22:40.54 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1463956847.png |
| 22:42.01 | kullervo | reminds me of the mountains above IF in TBC |
| 22:42.20 | VIad | going to ghostlands, the road is here :p |
| 22:42.39 | VIad | dead end |
| 22:43.33 | VIad | can smell vanilla, low polygons |
| 22:49.15 | VIad | vanilla did not fuck around, keeping it hard to climb |
| 22:51.11 | kullervo | vanilla terrain was easy to climb tbh |
| 22:51.15 | kullervo | jagged edges all around |
| 22:52.20 | VIad | but its fixed now |
| 22:52.23 | VIad | so even harder :p |
| 22:52.35 | VIad | btw found ghostlands in vanilla - its flat |
| 22:52.47 | VIad | inside strath |
| 22:52.48 | kullervo | so it's really other expansions keeping it hard to climb |
| 22:53.30 | mckenziemc | flattens VIad. |
| 22:53.32 | VIad | :d |
| 22:53.49 | VIad | bwl isnt in beta, meh |
| 22:53.53 | VIad | couldnt find the orb or npcs outside |
| 22:53.54 | VIad | :/ |
| 22:54.02 | Predicate | Literally unplayable. |
| 22:54.22 | VIad | unprepurchase |
| 22:54.58 | VIad | btw you can get out of ramparts outland too |
| 22:55.05 | VIad | DH can jump over and around so many walls |
| 22:55.21 | VIad | and the jumpx2 and glide definetly helps explore :p |
| 23:07.02 | VIad | can jump out from the robot boss on the entrance to BWD |
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| 23:09.38 | Semlar | meh, scrollframes still have the bug where moving them vertically causes font strings to jitter outside their boundary |
| 23:33.23 | FireSiku | I remember going there. Went to that area where the Naxx teleporter was supposed to be in. |
| 23:33.57 | FireSiku | ..God I need to check that my client is scrolled all the way down, sometimes it decides to just stop. :| |
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| 23:44.48 | NodusCursorius | FireSiku, I believe HexChat 2.12+ resolved that issue. |
| 23:45.22 | NodusCursorius | 2.10 and prior had issues with line endings and character corruption affecting both scrollback buffer and scrollback file. |
| 23:45.50 | FireSiku | Thanks, guess I'll update ;p |
| 23:46.02 | NodusCursorius | 2.12.1 also has a Lua plugin, so there's that. |
| 23:46.07 | FireSiku | ooooh |
| 23:46.13 | FireSiku | brb |
| 23:46.54 | NodusCursorius | This is why CTCP VERSION exists <3 |
| 23:47.09 | NodusCursorius | For helpful stalking. |
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| 23:47.47 | NodusCursorius | Let me know if that ends up resolving your issue, as I'm sincerely curious if it is related. If it isn't, I'll ask a few questions and submit a github bug. |
| 23:48.41 | Torhal | causes Semlar to jitter outside his boundary. |
| 23:48.55 | NodusCursorius | ~emulate Torhal |
| 23:48.55 | purl | Ackis, it's ALL your fault! |
| 23:49.07 | Torhal | ~emulate Semlar |
| 23:49.07 | purl | ACTION tries to calm Humbedooh down. |
| 23:49.17 | Stanzilla | hey Torhal |
| 23:49.19 | Stanzilla | e |
| 23:49.20 | Stanzilla | y |
| 23:49.24 | Torhal | hey Stanzilla |
| 23:49.29 | Torhal | Life is bad. Mmkay? |
| 23:49.31 | Stanzilla | guess who |
| 23:49.38 | Torhal | o.O |
| 23:49.46 | Stanzilla | I just found sprite zero in the cellar |
| 23:49.53 | Stanzilla | so life is a bit better for a short time |
| 23:50.04 | Torhal | Uh, ok. |
| 23:50.19 | Stanzilla | what's life doing to you atm that is making you sad? |
| 23:50.27 | Semlar | he has 18 cats |
| 23:51.33 | Torhal | The cats are fine. |
| 23:51.43 | Torhal | Plumbing emergency I've been dealing with for hours. |
| 23:51.49 | Torhal | I was supposed to be asleep three hours ago. |
| 23:51.55 | mckenziemc | did a cat get stuck? |
| 23:51.55 | Torhal | And now I'm waiting for a plumber. |
| 23:52.09 | Torhal | No, mckenziemc. Why are there so many morons in this channel? |
| 23:52.30 | mckenziemc | to keep you company? |
| 23:52.33 | Torhal | ... |
| 23:52.40 | Torhal | Mow Ron. |
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| 23:53.47 | Torhal | Ok, that was harsh. |
| 23:53.53 | Torhal | I recant my "moron" statement. |
| 23:54.05 | Torhal | Actually, I amend it to "Juvenile fuckheads." |
| 23:54.15 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 23:54.20 | Torhal | :P |
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| 23:54.28 | Stanzilla | that sounds annoying indeed, Torhal |
| 23:54.30 | Torhal | Fuckwits? |
| 23:54.35 | Torhal | Hmm. |
| 23:54.44 | Stanzilla | those, too |
| 23:54.55 | Torhal | Stanzilla: You know shit just got real when the pipe starts emerging from the fucking ground. |
| 23:54.59 | NodusCursorius | Torhal, is this because of your bra? Are you the one that managed to flush a bra down the toilet today, and thus your plumbing emergency? |
| 23:55.07 | Stanzilla | the *pipe* |
| 23:55.08 | Stanzilla | wth |
| 23:56.00 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Yeah. The cap came off and water was going all over my yard, so I shut the water off and did some research. Then I bought a new cap, dug a trench around the pipe, put the new cap on. When I turned the water on to see if it was leaking, the goddamn pipe started coming out of the ground. |
| 23:56.08 | Torhal | I ran so fast to turn it back off. |
| 23:56.46 | Stanzilla | haha |
