| 00:02.27 | fewyn | i'm in a pretty good mood |
| 00:03.09 | Simca | ah, I know what I will do |
| 00:03.26 | Simca | I will limit it to scanning 10 frames at a time, and every reload it will scan 10 more |
| 00:03.46 | Simca | so I just sit there typing /reload over and over and over until it crashes, and when it does, i will have narrowed it to down to 10 |
| 00:04.25 | foxlit | ... your commitment to pointless manual labour is adorable. |
| 00:08.49 | Simca | yes. |
| 00:09.01 | Simca | but literally everything else i can think of crashes the game |
| 00:09.29 | Simca | whatever this frame is, it cannot handle being sneezed at |
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| 00:12.32 | Simca | oh, I could just invoke the command to reload UI, couldn't I |
| 00:12.37 | Simca | it isn't protected |
| 00:14.12 | mckenziemc | ~whaleparry Simca's calling of ReloadUI() |
| 00:14.12 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Simca's calling of ReloadUI()'s attacks. |
| 00:14.23 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 00:15.20 | Simca | meh it requires a hardware event |
| 00:15.57 | nevcairiel | employ the trusty drinking bird |
| 00:16.44 | Simca | yeah i guess |
| 00:17.15 | Simca | i'll bind it to everything on home row and just smash face while doing other things |
| 00:21.02 | Gnarfoz | autohotkey |
| 00:21.12 | Predicate | Reported. |
| 00:21.43 | Gnarfoz | Mission Report, December 16, 1991? |
| 00:21.58 | foxlit | md5("insert macro command causing that crash here") == 84eec40afc73c8bef9e973237428f28a |
| 00:22.27 | mckenziemc | rigs Predicate's keys to heat to 250C on contact. |
| 00:22.32 | Gnarfoz | well, now foxlit can later on prove he knew of this at this point in time |
| 00:23.15 | Simca | how useful |
| 00:23.18 | foxlit | who am I to stand in the way of a good face-smashing? |
| 00:24.00 | Gnarfoz | anyone else playing paladin on beta? having any trouble getting the second artifact? Lord Maxwell Tyrosus just instantly despawns/phases away when I accept the quest to pick the next artifact, so I can't turn it in... >_> |
| 00:24.12 | Simca | i was just about to post how odd it was that i was almost done and it hadn't crashed |
| 00:24.14 | Simca | and then it crashed |
| 00:24.37 | Predicate | Quick, get the hash so we can see if foxlit is psychic! |
| 00:24.53 | Gnarfoz | we already know he is |
| 00:25.11 | Simca | my code has variable names, i doubt it will match his md5 |
| 00:27.08 | Simca | so looks like it would be frame 2341 from that earlier paste |
| 00:27.38 | Simca | PrestigeLevelUpBanner.Anim:GetAnimations()? |
| 00:31.36 | Simca | ah ha, did it |
| 00:34.21 | foxlit | easy fix, right? |
| 00:35.15 | Simca | i realized in the middle of typing it out that i did my script wrong and iterated over nothing, but it crashed anyway |
| 00:35.29 | Simca | it must be the select statement + GetAnimations together |
| 00:37.01 | Simca | woah, lol |
| 00:37.12 | Simca | okay so /run select("#", PrestigeLevelUpBanner.Anim:GetAnimations()) does not crash |
| 00:37.27 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.42 | foxlit | you are, of course, both wrong and right. |
| 00:38.43 | Simca | i am correct about the results |
| 00:38.50 | Simca | and I wasn't implying anything else |
| 00:39.15 | Simca | I have literally never used animations before, never even called GetAnimations() |
| 00:39.35 | Simca | i have not the slighest idea what the problem is, just trying to fix this to help out people who want diffs |
| 00:39.41 | Simca | slightest* |
| 00:40.40 | Simca | what is your theory foxlit |
| 00:42.16 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.38 | Munk | 111 animations? |
| 00:47.39 | Simca | it works if you put it into a table ... for some reason |
| 00:48.18 | Torhal | puts Semlar on a table for reanimation. |
| 00:48.28 | Simca | but crashes if you try to iterate that table |
| 00:48.30 | Gnarfoz | that's what she said, Simca |
| 00:51.56 | Simca | Munk: they -really- want you to feel special, apparently |
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| 00:59.49 | foxlit | I think someone forgot to extend the stack. |
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| 01:25.31 | Simca | makes sense |
| 01:26.17 | Simca | I asked a friend who isn't super familiar with Lua but knows a lot of reverse engineering stuff and his guess was "maybe some stack corruption?" |
| 01:26.34 | foxlit | btw, what if I told you that /run local n = select("#", PrestigeLevelUpBanner.Anim:GetAnimations()) doesn't crash, and /run select("#", PrestigeLevelUpBanner.Anim:GetAnimations()) does? |
| 01:26.57 | Simca | that would be odd |
| 01:27.39 | Simca | i'm loading without addons in a relatively clean environment |
| 01:29.43 | Simca | but everything i know about stacks is super low-level stuff, I have no idea how they apply to general application design |
| 01:38.22 | foxlit | fwiw, whichever one you run second breaks. |
| 01:39.53 | foxlit | so the macro was "/dump PrestigeLevelUpBanner.Anim:GetAnimations(), PrestigeLevelUpBanner.Anim:GetAnimations()" |
| 01:41.08 | Semlar | i bet it was guill |
| 01:43.45 | Simca | ah, so you already reported it, foxlit? |
| 01:44.34 | foxlit | straight to /dev/null... er, whever the crash reporter sends things. |
| 01:44.45 | Simca | heh, same |
| 02:03.05 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:04.33 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:10.41 | Predicate | So then none of you guys are going to post the steps to reproduce that crash on the forum created specifically for those bug reports? |
| 03:46.13 | Simca | the whole point of a crash reporter to report crashes. in theory, it should not be any more effective to post it on the forum after having submitted a crash report |
| 03:46.52 | Simca | i'll probably do it anyway later but if their bug reporting pipeline isn't awful they already know about it |
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| 04:24.25 | Predicate | Sure, they should already know about it, but unless you took the time to type up exact steps to reproduce in that little box, it'll probably be easier for them to fix with a detailed report. |
| 04:27.25 | mckenziemc | Step 1: increase size of report box |
| 04:29.01 | Semlar | ooor just wait for guill to show up and assault him with bug reports |
| 04:29.16 | mckenziemc | reports Semlar as a bug. |
| 04:30.17 | Torhal | reports mckenziemc for reporting Semlar, before squashing him like a bug. |
| 04:31.06 | mckenziemc | reminds Torhal he had to give up his physical manifestation to make room for the cats. |
| 04:31.32 | Torhal | But now I can make them act in concert. |
| 04:31.50 | mckenziemc | orchestra i would hope, with that many of them |
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| 05:57.56 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 05:58.07 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 07:28.05 | FireSiku | Yay! My first code that makes the client crash! |
| 07:28.47 | FireSiku | Made a texture with sublevel >8 |
| 09:03.19 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn part two |
| 09:03.36 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 09:03.58 | Fisker | Just kidding though it's like much bigger than a two part story these days |
| 09:11.18 | Simca | resike sure is angry about the filename changes |
| 09:34.06 | VIad | no more legion addon coding for firesiku |
| 09:43.20 | Semlar | what's in a name, simca |
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| 09:46.16 | Semlar | i think he's just mad that he can't "categorize" models based on their file path any more |
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| 09:47.36 | VIad | thanks for the filelist Semlar, I found the hearthstone victory sound :p |
| 09:47.55 | VIad | using it in my leveling addon to tell me when I got enough quests completed to ding - just for fun |
| 09:48.43 | Semlar | a pre-ding? |
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| 09:55.37 | VIad | yes |
| 09:55.49 | VIad | was in the period I quested a lot, but didnt want to overstay the zone :p |
| 09:56.11 | VIad | updated it for legion, mostly because I know some of my friends liked it |
| 09:57.10 | Semlar | i figured out a way to get nameplate distance from the camera but i'm not sure what good it is |
| 09:57.54 | VIad | even if the nameplace sticks to the corner? |
| 09:58.02 | VIad | like, real distance or just from the camera? :p |
| 09:58.13 | Semlar | it's the distance from the camera |
| 09:58.17 | Semlar | in yards |
| 09:58.39 | VIad | they seem to have added some scaling when you zoom in, nameplates get larger too |
| 09:58.42 | VIad | used some of that api? |
| 09:58.44 | Semlar | but the camera isn't on the player so it's not particularly useful |
| 09:59.11 | VIad | yeah |
| 09:59.15 | karl_w_w | Password requirements: |
| 09:59.16 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:59.16 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:59.16 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:59.16 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:59.20 | karl_w_w | fuck you |
| 09:59.31 | Semlar | no that doesn't fit |
| 09:59.33 | VIad | $wAg1 |
| 10:00.14 | VIad | doing the broken shore solo :p |
| 10:00.15 | nevcairiel | VIad also cant read rules |
| 10:00.22 | VIad | I can't :( |
| 10:00.34 | karl_w_w | p4S$word |
| 10:00.37 | VIad | I gave up and use lastpass to generate passwords for me |
| 10:00.41 | Semlar | i think they do this to keep people from using the same password for everything |
| 10:01.15 | Semlar | or maybe they're just assholes |
| 10:01.28 | karl_w_w | the thing is, I used the same password, just with slight modifications |
| 10:01.38 | Semlar | well it's not the same then is it! |
| 10:01.53 | karl_w_w | so if somebody knows my password all they have to do is read the restrictions they have and guess |
| 10:03.39 | nevcairiel | a password that matches the above restrictions usually works on anything though |
| 10:03.40 | VIad | I only use my default one for stuff that have sms/mail checks |
| 10:03.46 | nevcairiel | better make it 8 chars for some, but other then that |
| 10:04.03 | Semlar | password is 8 characters, perfect |
| 10:04.52 | VIad | I recommend trying lastpass |
| 10:05.04 | karl_w_w | my bank used to have a maximum password length of 8 |
| 10:05.14 | karl_w_w | thankfully they improved that... to 10 |
| 10:05.18 | VIad | my university too, think it was some weird linux restriction |
| 10:05.26 | VIad | thats what I think they said back in the day :p |
| 10:09.27 | VIad | fun fact you can afk during the broken shore scenario |
| 10:09.31 | VIad | the npcs do all the work anyway |
| 10:09.40 | VIad | at least if you are alone like me :p |
| 10:10.29 | nevcairiel | it takes ages then tho |
| 10:12.47 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 10:12.47 | Fisker | i |
| 10:13.08 | haste | you |
| 10:13.11 | Semlar | there's no i in hey fisker |
| 10:13.24 | Fisker | I stand by what I did |
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| 11:29.14 | VIad | why is it that you can't name your character anal or sex, but analsex is okay? |
| 11:31.15 | zenzelezz | could be that apart from explicitly adding "analsex" to the list of banned words, "anal" and "sex" can appear naturally in names or words |
| 11:32.04 | zenzelezz | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7811152433 |
| 11:33.08 | VIad | we need smarter detection |
| 11:33.13 | VIad | context aware :p |
| 11:33.26 | zenzelezz | why, are you offended by this? |
| 11:33.29 | VIad | nope |
| 11:33.47 | VIad | but there are many names that are no good because it contains a swear word in spanish that I didnt think of in english :på |
| 11:33.54 | VIad | EU list is like, lets put everything in here! |
| 11:34.44 | VIad | is it the same list in US? |
| 11:35.08 | zenzelezz | then two years down the line, some innocent word becomes a profanity through social repurposing, and a lot of characters have to change their names |
| 11:35.46 | VIad | they dont retroactively ban your name |
| 11:35.51 | VIad | just creation of future characters |
| 11:36.22 | zenzelezz | until someone reports the player for offensive nick and a GM has to make the judgement call |
| 11:36.29 | VIad | ofc, if that happens sure :p |
| 11:36.38 | VIad | can still happen if I go around called analsex probably |
| 11:36.44 | VIad | though its not directly offensive |
| 11:36.54 | VIad | unlike rapeyellow that is also accepted by the filter |
| 11:36.56 | zenzelezz | "offensive" is subjective; that's the crux of the issue |
| 11:37.32 | VIad | rp realms have strict naming policies so they care about names, regardless if its offensive or not |
| 11:37.38 | nevcairiel | meh they added a secure button to the worldmap, now its being annoying |
| 11:37.46 | VIad | ugh seriously, nevcairiel? |
| 11:38.04 | VIad | what does that button do that is so important? |
| 11:38.07 | nevcairiel | it appears its used for world quests |
| 11:38.20 | VIad | way to stop the bots I guess |
| 11:38.30 | VIad | ...probably not |
| 11:39.43 | nevcairiel | i should probably unlock world quests first and see what it does |
| 11:40.26 | VIad | btw zenzelezz, admin is okay :p |
| 11:40.31 | VIad | hoho |
| 11:40.56 | zenzelezz | this begs the question, are you particularly bored at the moment or something? :) |
| 11:41.29 | VIad | yeah just playing with the filter |
| 11:41.38 | VIad | definetly not bored |
| 11:43.41 | VIad | ugh trying to turn into the special event npc that infects people in stormwind |
| 11:43.43 | VIad | but nope :/ |
| 11:45.45 | VIad | btw you had that thread at your fingertips, what gives? :p |
| 11:45.48 | VIad | you linked it in seconds |
| 11:54.34 | zenzelezz | VIad: I just remembered being amused by it back then |
| 11:54.49 | VIad | :D |
| 11:54.59 | VIad | I remember our guild in vanilla had a char named after the dragons |
| 11:55.06 | VIad | and he camped them with those characters |
| 11:55.24 | VIad | later they added the names to the list, and now the dragons are gone so doesnt mater anymore |
| 11:59.09 | VIad | getting a quick start in legion |
| 11:59.33 | VIad | reserving my name now, so that I can just delete and make a DH and start, while everyone else is thinking of names :p |
| 12:04.03 | VIad | zenzelezz: do you know when blizz will release names from the 3rd last expansion? |
| 12:04.23 | VIad | I remember they said with each expansion they will remove inactive names from the pool, 3 expansions ago |
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| 12:08.55 | zenzelezz | VIad: no idea |
| 12:09.23 | zenzelezz | hoping to reclaim Trollerskate? |
| 12:09.53 | VIad | :d |
| 12:14.51 | zenzelezz | think I used to have Trollerskate and Taurmented for some obscure alts |
| 12:16.05 | VIad | REALM_SEPARATORS = "-@#*" |
| 12:16.14 | VIad | Bob@Realm Bob#Realm Bob*Realm? |
| 12:16.18 | VIad | didnt know those were valid |
| 12:16.21 | VIad | isnt it just "-" |
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| 12:16.40 | zenzelezz | doesn't have to mean they're currently in use |
| 12:16.43 | zenzelezz | could just be future-planning |
| 12:16.51 | VIad | I should use that in my addons then |
| 12:16.55 | VIad | and not just hardcode "-" |
| 12:20.26 | VIad | didn't know randomfavoritepet/rfp existed |
| 12:20.33 | VIad | or the randompet for that matter |
| 12:22.32 | VIad | probably doesnt work but doesnt error /invitespectatormatch |
| 12:22.39 | VIad | didnt know you could spectate in wow :p |
| 12:23.35 | zenzelezz | imagine that's for arena tournaments or something |
| 12:39.48 | VIad | Semlar: I need to ask you for a favor |
| 12:40.42 | VIad | nvm, I remember now :p |
| 13:11.07 | VIad | start legion, login, start live, login, exit live, logout legion, check realmist - shows live realms :p |
| 13:11.21 | VIad | that was weird - got a DC and got thrown out to the realmlist that way |
| 13:16.42 | fewyn | way to break the matrix VIad |
| 13:17.13 | VIad | :p |
| 13:17.25 | VIad | now to login on legion with my live characters... |
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| 14:00.20 | Stanzilla | any iphone users around? |
| 14:03.36 | foxlit | there's one right behind you. Look out, he's got an iphone! |
| 14:03.52 | Fisker | I love you foxlit |
| 14:04.26 | foxlit | so what are we doing tonight, Fisker? |
| 14:04.37 | Fisker | Nothing |
| 14:05.51 | foxlit | :/ |
| 14:06.04 | Fisker | Why |
| 14:06.06 | Fisker | ? |
| 14:09.04 | Fisker | Are you alright foxlit ? |
| 14:12.10 | fewyn | yes Stanzilla |
| 14:12.13 | fewyn | what do you need? |
| 14:13.10 | Stanzilla | my brother created a shitty situation here, he gave his old iphone to my mom but never changed the apple ID, so his new phone and his old phone are on the same apple id |
| 14:13.20 | Stanzilla | and I want to fix that and move my mother to her own apple id |
| 14:13.32 | Stanzilla | how do I/iTunes handle backups in that case? |
| 14:13.43 | Stanzilla | if I restore a backup, does it restore the apple id with it? |
| 14:13.50 | Stanzilla | can I just switch somehow? |
| 14:14.16 | Fisker | I'd say unlikely |
| 14:19.13 | foxlit | Yes, you can just switch on the phone. |
| 14:19.14 | fewyn | Stanzilla: so what you need to do is sign out of the apple id |
| 14:19.16 | fewyn | under iCloud |
| 14:19.21 | fewyn | and click keep contacts |
| 14:19.24 | fewyn | etc |
| 14:19.31 | fewyn | that's pretty much it |
| 14:19.43 | Stanzilla | well that sounds simple enough |
| 14:19.46 | Stanzilla | thanks guys |
| 14:19.55 | fewyn | (I work in Apple tech support as a new advisor trainer) |
| 14:20.08 | fewyn | if you run into any problems just let me know |
| 14:20.23 | Fisker | I have an issue fewyn |
| 14:20.30 | Stanzilla | cool, good to know |
| 14:20.34 | fewyn | is someone talking? |
| 14:20.37 | Fisker | When I hand the iPhone to people they don't know how to operate it |
| 14:20.39 | fewyn | all i hear is static |
| 14:22.22 | foxlit | http://i.stack.imgur.com/TQ8bA.jpg << this is an exciting and innovative error message. |
| 14:23.00 | Fisker | So foxlit |
| 14:23.30 | Fisker | We could do stuff |
| 14:24.42 | fewyn | foxlit: that means the items aren't in your library... also that's a hella old version |
| 14:24.53 | fewyn | it now tells you what is not in the library but is on the phone |
| 14:24.59 | foxlit | I stole a screenshot based on the text. |
| 14:25.36 | foxlit | and as of like five days ago, it still had the same "I'm not going to tell you what you're possibly about to delete forever" issue. |
| 14:27.19 | VIad | fewyn: how can I make my usb charger work on iphone? people keep asking if I have an iphone charger... |
| 14:27.59 | Fisker | Rekt |
| 14:29.57 | Fisker | hugs foxlit |
| 14:33.10 | Stanzilla | fewyn: it's old iOS7 and I cant find an option to log out of icloud, I can only delete the accoutn which says it will also delete data |
| 14:39.15 | Stanzilla | looks like the option to sign out is in the itunes/store menu instead |
| 14:40.18 | foxlit | Probably not the same thing. |
| 14:40.50 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 14:40.56 | foxlit | Modern versions can use different accounts for store/icloud access, so signing out of the store doesn't sign you out of icloud. Probably the same for you. |
| 14:42.07 | VIad | isnt there a hold down buttons during boot, to enter factory reset mode? |
| 14:42.24 | VIad | and purge everything >:) |
| 14:42.33 | fewyn | delete is the same option Stanzilla |
| 14:42.40 | Stanzilla | if I wanted to delete everything I would have done that, VIad |
| 14:42.42 | fewyn | they just labeled it different |
| 14:42.47 | VIad | sorry stan :( |
| 14:42.55 | fewyn | what kind of iphone is it Stanzilla |
| 14:42.57 | Stanzilla | :p |
| 14:43.07 | VIad | is it 4? |
| 14:43.13 | Stanzilla | fewyn: 4 and it looks like it was, now that I signed into the new account in the store thing, it shows in icloud, too |
| 14:43.14 | Fisker | I miss foxlit |
| 14:43.20 | VIad | me too, Fisker |
| 14:43.47 | fewyn | ah it's an iphone 4 |
| 14:43.50 | fewyn | but yeah |
| 14:43.53 | fewyn | delete/sign out is the same option |
| 14:44.11 | Stanzilla | fewyn: ok I lied it still has the old thing there, but when I hit delete it keeps local data like pictures etc? |
| 14:44.44 | fewyn | yeah another pop up will come up |
| 14:44.49 | fewyn | that says do you want to keep |
| 14:44.50 | fewyn | or delete |
| 14:44.52 | Fisker | Just get her an Android Stanzilla |
| 14:46.12 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure he mentioned robots |
| 14:46.32 | Stanzilla | god damnit, now my brother is gone and I need his pwd |
| 14:46.55 | Fisker | No but there's like zero learning curve to Lt. Commander Data |
| 14:47.04 | Stanzilla | and yes Fisker I would do that if I had one spare |
| 14:47.08 | Gnarfoz | the learning curve is built into Lt. Commander Data |
| 14:47.09 | Stanzilla | but we only had the iphone spare, soo |
| 14:47.21 | Fisker | RIP |
| 14:49.48 | mckenziemc | Fisker in peace |
| 14:50.26 | p3lim | Scrollframes are broken :/ |
| 14:50.44 | Stanzilla | "send me your apple id password via whatsapp" #opsec2016 |
| 14:50.58 | p3lim | In live I can change the offset (SetPoint) and horizontal scroll at the same time, but in legion I can't |
| 14:51.26 | foxlit | the other day I witnessed the following phonecall: "Hey could you walk over to my PC and log me out? My password is hunter2. Yeah, thanks." |
| 14:51.47 | Fisker | I don't believe you foxlit |
| 14:52.21 | Stanzilla | a password to log out |
| 14:52.22 | Stanzilla | that is new |
| 14:53.09 | foxlit | it really isn't. |
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| 14:53.29 | Fisker | Why would you do that though foxlit |
| 14:53.35 | Fisker | Some weird Mac thing |
| 14:53.36 | Fisker | ? |
| 14:53.36 | foxlit | You can't log out from the lock screen, and shutting down would kind of defeat the purpose. |
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| 14:53.51 | Fisker | Shutting down would achieve exactly the same |
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| 14:54.35 | foxlit | The "you and other people using this PC could lose unsaved work" disagrees with you, Fisker. |
| 14:55.06 | Fisker | Who uses PC's for more than one user geez |
| 14:57.50 | VIad | hunter2 :D |
| 14:57.56 | VIad | where is the capital letter and a character? |
| 15:00.28 | VIad | it's cold, better put on a winter jacket http://ss.bool.no/capture_1463842827.png |
| 15:02.41 | mckenziemc | greatly decreases VIad's entropy. |
| 15:03.10 | VIad | playing ff10 on pc. thank god they added x4 speedhack |
| 15:03.58 | fewyn | they did? |
| 15:04.01 | fewyn | nice |
| 15:04.26 | fewyn | i was going to order overwatch today but i forgot my cell phone bill was due tomorrow |
| 15:04.40 | fewyn | will have to wait until early next month |
| 15:04.43 | fewyn | rip |
| 15:04.45 | VIad | :( |
| 15:04.56 | fewyn | not that i have time to play it really |
| 15:05.05 | fewyn | i'm starting my first solo teaching class at work on the 6th |
| 15:08.02 | VIad | I wish you good luck, if its children |
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| 15:11.01 | fewyn | it's not VIad |
| 15:11.04 | fewyn | adults |
| 15:11.11 | fewyn | most of them are right around 20 |
| 15:11.15 | fewyn | fresh out of high school |
| 15:11.16 | VIad | :o |
| 15:11.17 | fewyn | or early college |
| 15:11.52 | Gnarfoz | "around 20" and "fresh out of high school" had me confused for a minute |
| 15:12.03 | fewyn | yeah so college ages Gnarfoz |
| 15:12.08 | fewyn | might have been better to say that |
| 15:12.57 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: but hey, whatsapp is e2e encrypted now. it's totally safe! :D |
| 15:13.55 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: well his response was "wanna get punched?" anyway so it did not happen :p |
| 15:14.16 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: then let him deal with your moms phone, I guess |
| 15:14.25 | Stanzilla | I guess so, too! |
| 15:14.31 | foxlit | in an unprecedented upset, security wins! |
| 15:14.46 | Gnarfoz | my 88 year old aunt just nuked her browser bookmarks again |
| 15:14.58 | foxlit | retaliate by flooding the icloud calendar with embarassing events and constant reminders. |
| 15:15.00 | Gnarfoz | apparently by cutting power to the computer at some random point |
| 15:15.30 | VIad | lol Gnarfoz |
| 15:15.42 | Gnarfoz | now it's at "rolling back updates, please don't turn off", but funnily enough, the text is too long (or font size too big?) in German, so it ends at "pleased don't turn the Compu..." |
| 15:16.08 | Stanzilla | upside down |
| 15:16.11 | Gnarfoz | ("Bitte schalten Sie den Computer n") |
| 15:16.21 | Stanzilla | achts aus |
| 15:16.32 | Gnarfoz | one possible end to that sentence |
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| 17:10.57 | Fisker | Hey Seerah |
| 17:11.02 | Seerah | hi, Fisker |
| 17:11.17 | Fisker | How are you? |
| 17:11.49 | mckenziemc | fine until you asked, apparently |
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| 17:25.59 | VIad | all caught up with game of thrones now |
| 17:26.51 | mckenziemc | how about self-education |
| 17:48.53 | zenzelezz | VIad: took you this long to watch all three seasons? |
| 17:49.17 | VIad | no, the latest season and episode |
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| 18:18.14 | VIad | conspiracy: in dungeons, DH hardly proc the heal orbs, but soloing outside, procs all the damn time |
| 18:35.20 | VIad | Semlar: nameplates scale when you zoom in and out now, right? |
| 18:36.12 | VIad | maybe you can math your way to figure the camera angle based on the nameplate movement when you figit the zoom :p |
| 18:37.36 | VIad | also job 1 once legion is live, addon to hide nameplates you arent in combat with for dungeons at least :p and preferably disable tabbing to mobs not in combat when you are :p |
| 18:38.12 | Semlar | there is a cvar for that |
| 18:38.33 | Semlar | tabbing, anyway |
| 18:40.08 | VIad | yea |
| 18:40.23 | VIad | that has to be enabled :p |
| 18:40.34 | VIad | for dungeonsd :p |
| 18:40.55 | VIad | played DH in legion, Semlar? |
| 18:41.09 | Semlar | no |
| 18:41.19 | VIad | :( |
| 18:41.37 | VIad | btw your taximap update still needs to happen |
| 18:41.41 | VIad | blizz made the taxi map fancy |
| 18:41.46 | VIad | but you dont see your quests, world quests, e.g. :p |
| 18:42.17 | VIad | shouldnt be too hard maybe to make an overlay for their taxi map, its not bad, but quest info would be nice |
| 18:42.23 | VIad | stuff on my "maybe make addon for" list |
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| 18:43.37 | [TOM_RUS] | VIad, I think blizz taxi map sohws world quests, no? |
| 18:43.43 | VIad | maybe |
| 18:43.50 | VIad | 108 atm, but no normal quests or bonus areas |
| 18:43.56 | [TOM_RUS] | at least it did last time I used it |
| 18:44.11 | VIad | also wish they make quests appear on the continent map |
| 18:44.13 | VIad | not just zone |
| 18:44.31 | VIad | always annoying to have to go through each zone to see if there are any hubs, probably world quests, bonus areas, e.g. |
| 18:45.17 | VIad | its beta so I give them time |
| 18:45.20 | [TOM_RUS] | probably doable with addon, if there's a way to convert zone coords to continent (most likely possible) |
| 18:45.21 | VIad | they updated the taxi map this patch |
| 18:45.30 | VIad | yes, astrolabe did it for ages |
| 18:45.43 | VIad | would just need to iterate and show on the continent view |
| 18:45.50 | Semlar | "just" |
| 18:47.52 | VIad | well I always dont like that |
| 18:48.05 | VIad | store map, iterate and change map, trigger a million map update events, go back to main map |
| 18:48.33 | VIad | with enough addons doing that, suddenlym ap behaves weird, like when you cross subzones suddenly it shifts around if you are purposefully viewing another area |
| 18:49.34 | VIad | I like api that doesnt require you to use some other api first to set the zone, before other api can work |
| 18:49.50 | VIad | like the quest log, to get xp worth in the log, you have to iterate stuff :/ |
| 18:50.29 | VIad | btw saw a hunter run past me and attack the next pack of mobs |
| 18:50.36 | VIad | dont think he is aware tags are shared up to like 15 people |
| 18:50.45 | VIad | or what ever blizz said the magic number was |
| 18:51.07 | Semlar | maybe he just wanted to shoot something |
| 18:51.27 | VIad | maybe |
| 18:52.34 | VIad | Semlar: have y ou looked at the data provider thing? |
| 18:52.47 | Semlar | what |
| 18:52.51 | VIad | looked like we can inject our own overlays but in a nice way, looked like blizz made some framework |
| 18:53.35 | VIad | Blizzard_MapCanvas |
| 18:53.49 | [TOM_RUS] | it only works with adventure map and taxi map :( |
| 18:53.57 | [TOM_RUS] | not for world map unfortunately |
| 18:54.00 | VIad | :( |
| 18:54.01 | VIad | it looked good |
| 18:54.23 | VIad | the map tracking dropdown, and data provider, would be awesome |
| 18:54.37 | VIad | could easily add custom layers and the player could toggle them neatly |
| 18:54.41 | VIad | oh well |
| 18:54.46 | VIad | at least taxi map you said |
| 18:54.58 | VIad | could at least make the overlay for quest and stuff using it then :p |
| 18:55.05 | Semlar | that is the only thing map canvas is used for |
| 18:55.10 | Semlar | drawing the legion flight map |
| 18:55.14 | VIad | its still early, maybe blizz will use it on other things too |
| 18:55.26 | Semlar | i don't know what you mean by data provider |
| 18:56.40 | VIad | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/Blizzard_MapCanvas/Blizzard_MapCanvas.lua#59 |
| 18:56.47 | VIad | and you got the base class https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/Blizzard_MapCanvas/MapCanvas_DataProviderBase.lua |
| 18:57.02 | VIad | so it would be easy to use the struct there to make your own |
| 18:57.44 | Semlar | but you would taint everything it touches |
| 18:57.50 | VIad | of course |
| 18:57.59 | VIad | especially with the world map secure button nevcairiel mentioned |
| 18:58.06 | VIad | would break everything |
| 18:58.46 | VIad | we should make a community driven map addon |
| 18:58.54 | VIad | that supports these kind of frameworks to add your own stuff on the map |
| 18:59.02 | VIad | a map framework :p |
| 18:59.06 | [TOM_RUS] | they should really get rid if that taint hack from lua, it does more harm than good |
| 18:59.46 | VIad | any specific lua file you are thinking of, tom? |
| 19:00.25 | [TOM_RUS] | it's not lua file, it's lua interpreter that is hacked to support that crap |
| 19:00.29 | VIad | ah |
| 19:00.34 | [TOM_RUS] | original lua doesn't have this crap |
| 19:00.40 | [TOM_RUS] | they modified it |
| 19:00.50 | VIad | they want addons to be limited not to do naughty things :p |
| 19:00.55 | VIad | so its on the agressive side |
| 19:01.42 | VIad | hehe, and I thought I was being lazy when I did things like this https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/Blizzard_SharedMapDataProviders/ZoneLabelDataProvider.lua#55 |
| 19:01.54 | VIad | isplaying? c_timer.after that shit, its probably done then :D |
| 19:02.05 | VIad | keep doing until its done |
| 19:04.05 | VIad | did I offend anyone? |
| 19:04.18 | VIad | you don't count, Torhal |
| 19:28.00 | VIad | still amazed there is a portal to karazhan |
| 19:28.08 | VIad | feels like out of nowhere to be legion :p |
| 19:34.21 | Yoshimo | what happened to northrend, now that Dalaran seems to be floating over the broken shore? |
| 19:38.26 | nevcairiel | its still there |
| 19:38.59 | kd3 | for gameplay purposes, northrend's dalaran is still there |
| 19:39.40 | Yoshimo | so it is an independent copy |
| 19:40.09 | kd3 | yes. the one in broken isles is updated and a bit different, but still mostly the same dalaran you know |
| 19:40.27 | Yoshimo | the center of Dalaran got a few new portals indeed |
| 19:40.55 | kd3 | and no more Citizens of Dalaran! shouts every 30 seconds |
| 19:41.20 | Yoshimo | but a quite agressive companion that follows you around ;) |
| 19:41.59 | Yoshimo | "we need to talk!" unfortunately he doesn't have any gossip menu |
| 19:43.06 | Trela | Today I learned that Motorseal 1 will remove paint. Today I used it on a painted surface on my vehicle. >_>; |
| 19:44.09 | Trela | Today I also do not have beta access. :P |
| 19:47.34 | Yoshimo | well since the various introduction quests for the new zones still have showstopper bugs, i wouldn't be that sad |
| 19:48.18 | Yoshimo | "kill all mobs" is impossible if the last one is floating 30 feet in the air and permanently evades |
| 20:09.58 | VIad | hmm |
| 20:10.02 | VIad | think blizz will open karazhan crypt |
| 20:10.04 | VIad | like, finally? |
| 20:11.27 | VIad | they did changes to it |
| 20:13.22 | kullervo | are the chained corpses still there? |
| 20:13.25 | kullervo | they were my favourite |
| 20:13.47 | VIad | I cant enter |
| 20:13.53 | VIad | but I saw they changed the gate, and some entrance stuff |
| 20:13.57 | VIad | and seemed like some quest item |
| 20:14.02 | VIad | on the minimap |
| 20:14.24 | kullervo | exploit your way in |
| 20:14.30 | VIad | how? |
| 20:14.31 | VIad | I tried |
| 20:14.34 | VIad | dont got much toys |
| 20:14.39 | JTF195 | is anyone around that might be able to fix this? http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/yatlas/files/ |
| 20:14.41 | kullervo | you don't go in at the gate |
| 20:14.46 | kullervo | you clip through the ground in uhhh |
| 20:14.48 | JTF195 | something broke horribly |
| 20:14.52 | VIad | they moved it a bit |
| 20:15.02 | JTF195 | the version history, that is |
| 20:15.13 | VIad | the original gate is open, and further down is a new gate |
| 20:15.43 | kullervo | some underwater object in blasted lands or underwater in vashjir |
| 20:16.18 | VIad | got beta? |
| 20:16.22 | kullervo | no |
| 20:16.31 | kullervo | but I'm assuming wall clip works the same way as it does now |
| 20:16.37 | VIad | hmm |
| 20:16.48 | VIad | I barely made it before with clipping |
| 20:16.56 | VIad | but now the gate is in ad ifficult spot and I am too noob |
| 20:17.02 | VIad | you have to show me some method you arre thinkling of |
| 20:17.05 | VIad | typing :( |
| 20:17.18 | kullervo | clip through the whole terrain to go under it anywhere in eastern kingdoms |
| 20:17.26 | kullervo | and fly to the crypt under the map |
| 20:17.42 | kullervo | you may want to be a monk or druid to avoid accidents |
| 20:18.25 | VIad | if I clip I get DC |
| 20:18.31 | VIad | how I experienced it on live |
| 20:18.47 | VIad | ok, Ill try more |
| 20:18.47 | kullervo | yeah it's different now |
| 20:19.35 | kullervo | clipping through terrain using some methods, ones that happen by accident, would instadc me on draenor, but going through the terrain on purpose was safe and allowed me to go wherever |
| 20:20.16 | kullervo | I ticketed a GM about this shit in TBC and they said it's fine, but not supported >_> |
| 20:20.27 | Yoshimo | they don't have safeguards that prevent you from going there? |
| 20:20.48 | kullervo | the safeguard triggers when you go through the terrain and "fall" |
| 20:21.14 | kullervo | you can clip through the terrain using death from above against a target that you have LoS to but must pass through the map |
| 20:21.26 | kullervo | this will cause an instant DC |
| 20:23.34 | kullervo | traveling now, on live, will show a spot |
| 20:27.01 | VIad | doublejump won't break the game, riight http://ss.bool.no/capture_1463862413.png |
| 20:30.39 | VIad | not even a wow? :p |
| 20:30.43 | VIad | or wtf scrublord |
| 20:33.33 | kullervo | cool, I found an instant death zone |
| 20:33.52 | kullervo | probably so noobs actually falling in this pit without flying mounts wouldn't get stuck |
| 20:35.20 | VIad | crypt? |
| 20:35.34 | kullervo | nah just exploring the terrain in EK |
| 20:35.48 | kullervo | I haven't been to many of these low level zones since 2012 |
| 20:38.27 | VIad | lol |
| 20:38.29 | VIad | chess in kara |
| 20:38.35 | VIad | the pieces turn in random directions :p |
| 20:38.38 | VIad | they dont face forward |
| 20:38.42 | VIad | the bots |
| 20:38.59 | VIad | and my piece scales :p |
| 20:39.09 | VIad | so much hp |
| 20:42.32 | Munk | are translation animations bugged atm? randomly twitches when looping back with bounce mode https://i.gyazo.com/a54395b7a6ce8e25ba813d69fbba6c79.gif |
| 20:47.11 | VIad | kullervo: http://ss.bool.no/capture_1463863626.png |
| 20:47.41 | VIad | from last boss, easy way to jump off and glide :p |
| 20:47.43 | VIad | hilarious |
| 20:47.52 | VIad | will be extremely fun to find places in old content to get out from |
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| 20:49.04 | kullervo | neat |
| 20:49.23 | VIad | part of duskwood still here, hehe |
| 20:49.28 | VIad | vanilla ofc |
| 20:50.07 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1463863801.png |
| 20:50.26 | VIad | alt+z then escape shows the ui now |
| 20:50.42 | kullervo | it does on live |
| 20:50.45 | Gnarfoz | not new |
| 20:50.51 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 20:51.16 | VIad | oh :p |
| 20:51.22 | VIad | the inn in duskwood plays music, yay |
| 20:52.01 | VIad | hmm |
| 20:52.06 | VIad | wonder if you can get out of BWL |
| 20:52.12 | VIad | and slide down to vanilla searing :p |
| 20:52.14 | VIad | or burning |
| 20:52.24 | kd3 | it used to be possible to fall out of nef's room |
| 20:52.28 | VIad | with double jumps and glide, a lot is possible |
| 20:52.42 | VIad | yes |
| 20:52.54 | VIad | done it long ago but they fixed stuff |
| 20:52.59 | VIad | might be easier now with DH |
| 20:53.32 | VIad | I hope they fix the glide when you strafe, like Q/E and glide - should glide in that direction imo |
| 20:57.32 | VIad | are you also exploring, kullervo? |
| 20:57.43 | kullervo | I'm testing the limits atm |
| 20:57.51 | kullervo | it would be VERY difficult to fly there underground |
| 20:57.57 | VIad | :d |
| 20:58.06 | VIad | underground instant DCs right? |
| 20:58.21 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/WoWScrnShot_052116_235816.jpg |
| 20:58.23 | kullervo | not really |
| 20:58.27 | VIad | oh |
| 20:58.42 | kullervo | but moving wrong does |
| 20:58.45 | VIad | :D |
| 20:59.01 | kullervo | if you don't fall after logging back in you're not getting teleported to gy |
| 20:59.12 | kullervo | and can continue where you were |
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| 21:01.40 | kullervo | there are hidden boundaries |
| 21:01.52 | VIad | probably for people that fall through I guess |
| 21:02.58 | Ironii | did i miss something or are Shamans the only healers with interrupt ? O.o |
| 21:03.14 | VIad | ranged interrupt |
| 21:03.21 | Stanzilla | priest has silence |
| 21:03.26 | VIad | but its not interrupt |
| 21:03.31 | Stanzilla | it is |
| 21:03.38 | Ironii | mhh, which spec? |
| 21:03.43 | Ironii | i only noticed shadows silence |
| 21:03.44 | VIad | mobs can be immune to spells/silence but not interrupt, interrupts are usually physical |
| 21:03.52 | Stanzilla | holy but let me check before I talk shit |
| 21:04.02 | VIad | holy has a stance that can disorient |
| 21:04.05 | VIad | like a sap |
| 21:04.07 | Gnarfoz | counterspell is physical? wind shear? |
| 21:04.07 | Stanzilla | vlad pls |
| 21:04.10 | Stanzilla | it's legion now |
| 21:04.11 | VIad | stan plz |
| 21:04.13 | Stanzilla | get wit hthe times |
| 21:04.15 | VIad | :d |
| 21:04.18 | Stanzilla | holy stance is so old |
| 21:04.25 | VIad | I meant disc |
| 21:04.29 | VIad | chastise |
| 21:04.30 | Ironii | warrior and rogue are the only ones with physical interrupts? |
| 21:04.32 | Stanzilla | disc never had a stance |
| 21:04.37 | VIad | holy* |
| 21:04.38 | Gnarfoz | paladin, too |
| 21:04.44 | kullervo | monk |
| 21:04.48 | Ironii | ah well |
| 21:04.49 | Ironii | ...:D |
| 21:04.50 | Gnarfoz | they exist? |
| 21:04.55 | VIad | very few healers have range interrupts |
| 21:05.17 | Gnarfoz | you make it sound like there's all these tons of healers and only a handful have interrupts |
| 21:05.27 | Gnarfoz | when only a handful of healers exist in the first place :P |
| 21:05.44 | Gnarfoz | (not that I really know what you're even on about in the first place) |
| 21:05.45 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/WoWScrnShot_052216_000540.jpg |
| 21:05.47 | kullervo | I wonder what this is |
| 21:05.56 | Stanzilla | Ironii: ye silence is gone so nvm |
| 21:06.04 | VIad | look you pleb, http://www.wowhead.com/spell=57994 vs http://www.wowhead.com/spell=15487 |
| 21:06.17 | VIad | one is interrupt mechanic, other is silence aura |
| 21:06.19 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/WoWScrnShot_052216_000614.jpg |
| 21:06.21 | kullervo | it does nothing |
| 21:06.34 | VIad | :p |
| 21:06.40 | Stanzilla | silence is a kick in pve |
| 21:06.43 | Stanzilla | not in pvp |
| 21:07.03 | VIad | on my dk I have both interrupt and silence, and many mobs were immune to my silence |
| 21:07.08 | VIad | and it failed to interrupt them |
| 21:07.29 | Gnarfoz | my frisbee does both http://www.wowhead.com/spell=31935/avengers-shield |
| 21:07.40 | VIad | yes, Gnarfoz |
| 21:07.43 | VIad | that shield does both ;) |
| 21:07.46 | Gnarfoz | yes VIad |
| 21:07.51 | Gnarfoz | thanks for agreeing with the factgs |
| 21:07.54 | kullervo | belf racial does both but only interrupts main target' |
| 21:07.55 | VIad | I do! |
| 21:08.28 | VIad | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=47528/mind-freeze and http://www.wowhead.com/spell=47476/strangulate two different mechanics |
| 21:09.19 | Ironii | strangulate doesn't interrupt anymore |
| 21:09.20 | Ironii | even in pve |
| 21:09.38 | Ironii | it was changed in 6.0 |
| 21:09.42 | VIad | belf racial is a silence according to wowhead |
| 21:10.01 | VIad | I am just looking at the mechanics in the details on wowhead |
| 21:10.18 | Ironii | " Non-player victim spellcasting is also interrupted for 3 sec." |
| 21:10.43 | kullervo | yep can't fly under the ground :| |
| 21:10.50 | Gnarfoz | ~spell 15487 |
| 21:10.57 | Gnarfoz | ~wowspell 15487 |
| 21:10.57 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=15487 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=15487 |
| 21:11.11 | Gnarfoz | amazing, wowdb still has a redirect in place for this format |
| 21:11.25 | Ironii | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=32747/interrupt is the arcane torrent interrupt effect |
| 21:11.39 | VIad | that is applied on the main target? |
| 21:11.41 | VIad | that can be it |
| 21:11.46 | Gnarfoz | anyway, just shows that spells are complicated and not at all transparent |
| 21:12.10 | VIad | yeah ofc |
| 21:12.13 | VIad | some can be hard to read |
| 21:13.30 | VIad | all I want to say is there is at least a difference between the silence and interrupt mechanics :p |
| 21:13.40 | VIad | that both are not the same thing |
| 21:14.07 | Ironii | no one said they are ? :) |
| 21:14.44 | VIad | just question was if healers have interrupt |
| 21:14.49 | VIad | so thought of that particular mechanic |
| 21:15.18 | VIad | and said shaman because they got a ranged interrupt, otherwise most healers with interrupts need to get melee range, so probably why not many do it |
| 21:15.32 | VIad | btw kullervo this is amazing |
| 21:15.43 | VIad | got in LBRS and jumped out, the old UBRS portal was in the old spot and worked |
| 21:15.50 | VIad | but it sent me outside the UBRS portal, not instanced :p |
| 21:15.56 | kullervo | damn |
| 21:15.56 | VIad | maybe they have a zoning lock on it |
| 21:16.11 | Ironii | on beta shaman is the only healer with interrupt, ;P |
| 21:16.16 | Ironii | atleast it looks like it |
| 21:16.35 | Ironii | http://pastebin.com/sc2r6Eq3 , current spells that can interrupt something in pve, if you are curious ;P |
| 21:16.39 | Ironii | atleast it should be all |
| 21:17.28 | VIad | if I didnt explore I would scan the spell dbc and read the flags for it |
| 21:17.32 | VIad | compile a list but lazy atm |
| 21:17.40 | VIad | too busy playing with old dungeons on legion |
| 21:18.54 | VIad | kullervo: in LBRS the UBRS door is not open :( |
| 21:19.31 | Ironii | mhh, actually that list is missing hunter pets |
| 21:19.38 | Ironii | but no one uses them so its fine ^^ |
| 21:22.00 | VIad | :D |
| 21:23.00 | VIad | I am super happy platebuffs is now part of the ui |
| 21:23.16 | VIad | nameplate overhaul helps create awesome nameplates |
| 21:23.21 | VIad | cant wait for semlarplates to be released |
| 21:23.34 | VIad | targeting arrows will be even more accurate |
| 21:26.03 | Neffi | >semlaranything >released |
| 21:26.07 | Neffi | haha haha |
| 21:26.34 | Stanzilla | semlar released an addon last week |
| 21:26.37 | Stanzilla | so dont laugh |
| 21:26.43 | kd3 | ...whuh? |
| 21:26.46 | kd3 | looks for flying pigs |
| 21:26.48 | Neffi | seriously? |
| 21:26.52 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:26.54 | Semlar | technically someone else released it |
| 21:27.04 | VIad | mmochamp would have had frontpage news |
| 21:27.49 | VIad | kullervo: Ill go UBRS and try get in LBRS from the dungeon |
| 21:34.38 | Semlar | Simca: your widget diff isn't complete |
| 21:35.13 | foxlit | Simca: the public demands a full refund! |
| 21:35.13 | [TOM_RUS] | Simca, plz fix |
| 21:35.18 | Semlar | there's a new widget for "Line"s which are basically textures with a few extra methods |
| 21:35.51 | Gnarfoz | I heard it doesn't work |
| 21:35.58 | foxlit | (if you're an addon "author" and you're in the beta, why are you looking at someone else's diffs anyway?) |
| 21:36.38 | Semlar | why wouldn't i |
| 21:39.29 | VIad | kullervo: you can jump down from ragewing's bridge into LBRS :p |
| 21:39.30 | Semlar | Gnarfoz: it works |
| 21:39.33 | VIad | with the unattackable 101 elites |
| 21:39.36 | foxlit | should have your own, with blackjack. |
| 21:40.03 | Semlar | that would require me to do something that someone else has already done |
| 21:40.28 | foxlit | if you want something done properly... |
| 21:40.52 | Semlar | make foxlit do it |
| 21:41.40 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.42 | foxlit | well, maybe, but then it'll be done in like September. |
| 21:42.08 | Semlar | you can almost make out the mushroom |
| 21:44.45 | Semlar | what do you suppose the top, bottom, left and right of the line are |
| 21:46.31 | Semlar | nevermind, it's perfect http://i.imgur.com/a9muSuD.jpg |
| 21:48.48 | Gnarfoz | that does remind me of certain Wildstar nameplate mods |
| 21:49.11 | Semlar | how do i even show my own nameplate |
| 21:49.33 | Semlar | it doesn't appear to be under the options |
| 21:49.55 | VIad | you can't Semlar, only the quick "nameplate" |
| 21:50.10 | Semlar | i saw footage from the alpha where the guy clearly had a healthbar for himself |
| 21:50.14 | VIad | hmm |
| 21:50.21 | Gnarfoz | http://mods.curse.com/ws-addons/wildstar/220025-track-master |
| 21:50.35 | Gnarfoz | http://mods.curse.com/ws-addons/wildstar/220166-trackmaster-farming :D |
| 21:50.38 | Semlar | plus there's namepelate functions to get your own nameplate |
| 21:51.24 | Gnarfoz | http://mods.curse.com/ws-addons/wildstar/220939-trackmaster-objectives particularly this is neat when you're in places you haven't been to before |
| 21:52.00 | Gnarfoz | I guess it'd require turning on friendly nameplates, tho, and seeing that they're limited to 30, that'd probably not work out too well for NPCs vs. players, on launch day |
| 21:52.13 | Stanzilla | Semlar: "personal ressource display" |
| 21:52.25 | Stanzilla | under names |
| 21:52.55 | VIad | btw do we have a legion guild? |
| 21:53.12 | Semlar | i have personal resource display checked |
| 21:53.14 | VIad | Gnarfoz: what, are nameplates capped at 30? |
| 21:53.18 | VIad | get in combat, Semlar |
| 21:53.22 | VIad | it doesnt show out of combat |
| 21:53.28 | Semlar | i have always show nameplates on |
| 21:54.02 | Gnarfoz | VIad: for someone filling so much of this room with text, you certainly miss out on vital things some time. :P |
| 21:54.10 | VIad | :< |
| 21:54.20 | Semlar | it does only display in combat |
| 21:54.21 | VIad | my "nameplate" dont show out of combat |
| 21:54.22 | Semlar | what the fuck |
| 21:54.24 | Gnarfoz | although you might have a point, it's nameplate units that are limited to 30 |
| 21:54.31 | Gnarfoz | not sure if that reflects to nameplates in general |
| 21:54.41 | VIad | the personal "nameplate" is just a frame I think |
| 21:54.48 | Semlar | no it's a real nameplate |
| 21:54.54 | VIad | oh |
| 21:54.55 | VIad | weird |
| 21:54.57 | Semlar | i have their nameplate addon disabled |
| 21:55.12 | Semlar | so the only way i can see it is if it's firing the nameplate events |
| 21:55.49 | Semlar | it only appears when i'm in combat though |
| 21:56.14 | Stanzilla | set nameplates to always display |
| 21:56.29 | Gnarfoz | he did |
| 21:56.33 | VIad | Stanzilla: wont work on your own |
| 21:56.45 | Stanzilla | ok ok calm down mates |
| 21:56.48 | VIad | no! |
| 21:57.15 | VIad | <3 |
| 21:57.17 | Semlar | well, it fires the nameplate event and it does provide it with a unit ID, but the unit ID doesn't point to the player |
| 21:57.20 | Semlar | or anything |
| 21:58.56 | Semlar | er |
| 21:59.07 | Semlar | it does, but not when the event fires |
| 22:00.18 | Semlar | so if i call UnitName(unitID) when NAME_PLATE_UNIT_ADDED fires i get nothing, but i can call it later and return my name |
| 22:02.18 | Semlar | ooh nevermind |
| 22:03.03 | Semlar | i'm apparently honoring the "my name" cvar in the options |
| 22:05.00 | Semlar | well i guess i know what "UnitShouldDisplayName" does now |
| 22:06.00 | Gnarfoz | does it control whether a unit should display its name? |
| 22:09.10 | Ironii | is there a easy way to use string like 'a.b' to point t[a][b] ? |
| 22:09.19 | Ironii | or do i need to split it first |
| 22:09.44 | VIad | t.a.b and t['a']['b'] is the same thing |
| 22:10.06 | VIad | a bit unsure what you meant :< |
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| 22:10.53 | Semlar | split it |
| 22:10.54 | Neffi | Ironii: you will need to parse the string |
| 22:11.03 | Semlar | you could use gmatch |
| 22:11.12 | Neffi | gmatches Semlar |
| 22:11.47 | Ironii | hmph, was hoping for some kind of secret method :) |
| 22:12.29 | VIad | kullervo: http://ss.bool.no/capture_1463868744.png |
| 22:12.39 | Neffi | if it was secret, I wouldn't tell it to you |
| 22:13.17 | Neffi | Semlar: I'm hungry |
| 22:13.26 | Neffi | why am I allowed to he hungry? |
| 22:15.15 | Semlar | being hungry is a state of mind neffi |
| 22:15.33 | Neffi | are you saying my mind is a state machine? |
| 22:15.44 | Semlar | i'm saying your mind is hungry |
| 22:15.56 | Neffi | oh ok |
| 22:16.13 | Neffi | how do I fix that? |
| 22:16.16 | Semlar | food |
| 22:16.25 | Neffi | insert food into my mind? |
| 22:16.29 | Semlar | figure out how to get my nameplate to always display without me being in combat |
| 22:16.42 | Semlar | i swear the guy on the alpha had his visible without being in combat |
| 22:16.57 | Neffi | there is no player nameplate, Semlar |
| 22:17.03 | Semlar | THERE IS TOO |
| 22:17.08 | Neffi | no srs |
| 22:17.14 | Semlar | YOU CAN EVEN CLICK ON IT |
| 22:17.31 | nevcairiel | the player nameplate shows when you have/lack resources (depending on your class) |
| 22:17.37 | nevcairiel | maybe thats why you thought it was perma on |
| 22:18.07 | Neffi | this seems wrong Semlar |
| 22:18.09 | Semlar | he was a demon hunter and he was just standing around |
| 22:18.15 | Neffi | are you sure you are looking at the right game? |
| 22:19.57 | Semlar | there's like 44 nameplate cvars neffi |
| 22:21.35 | Neffi | ok |
| 22:22.17 | Semlar | it wasn't just a bar in the center of the screen |
| 22:22.41 | Semlar | i was hoping i could anchor to it |
| 22:24.17 | Semlar | it stayed at your feet |
| 22:24.29 | Semlar | so it didn't matter where the camera was |
| 22:32.32 | Neffi | what's the level cap even at now? |
| 22:33.06 | Semlar | like a million |
| 22:33.19 | Neffi | I haven't played since mists |
| 22:33.36 | Neffi | I suspect the movie will bring about much activity |
| 22:33.41 | Neffi | maybe I will take a look |
| 22:33.52 | Neffi | is there a recap of the major changes since then? |
| 22:34.52 | Semlar | yeah here https://gfycat.com/RecklessIncompatibleChrysalis |
| 22:35.25 | Neffi | oh ok |
| 22:35.27 | Neffi | thx |
| 22:36.20 | Semlar | maybe did one https://gfycat.com/GiantBrightEstuarinecrocodile |
| 22:36.24 | Semlar | dis |
| 22:37.03 | Neffi | Semlar plz |
| 22:37.15 | Semlar | nothing changes neffi |
| 22:37.37 | Neffi | oh ok |
| 22:37.38 | Neffi | thx |
| 22:37.58 | Semlar | o wait here we go https://gfycat.com/SizzlingGrippingIndianglassfish |
| 22:38.06 | Semlar | this one is different |
| 22:38.22 | Neffi | wat |
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| 22:39.08 | Gnarfoz | gfycat needs more bandwidth |
| 22:42.18 | Semlar | it's so hot neffi |
| 22:42.28 | Semlar | my AC isn't working |
| 22:42.38 | Neffi | don't put your hand on the stove Seerah |
| 22:42.41 | Neffi | Semlar |
| 22:42.43 | Neffi | :/ |
| 22:42.46 | Semlar | too late |
| 22:43.10 | Semlar | no takebacks |
| 22:43.50 | Neffi | does wow still run in wine? |
| 22:44.44 | Predicate | Yep |
| 22:44.49 | Neffi | cool |
| 22:45.20 | Predicate | Just not the 64-bit client, on live. Use Wow.exe -noautolaunch64bit |
| 22:45.33 | Neffi | shame |
| 22:45.53 | Predicate | Yeah, but at least it got fixed in Legion beta. Hopefully that survives to launch. |
| 22:45.56 | Semlar | noautolaunches neffi |
| 22:46.14 | Neffi | there's an expac in beta right now? |
| 22:46.39 | Predicate | That's what I hear |
| 22:46.50 | Neffi | crazy |
| 22:47.19 | Neffi | has the API seen any substantial changes? I would have a lot of code to update |
| 22:47.41 | Semlar | never update neffi |
| 22:47.49 | Semlar | that's like admitting you're wrong |
| 22:47.54 | Predicate | There's a new class, secondary power types got totally fubared, transmog and collections API is completely different. |
| 22:48.07 | Predicate | And the usual new zones and level cap, of course. |
| 22:59.55 | Semlar | i'm literally dead now neffi |
| 23:00.15 | Semlar | fix my AC |
| 23:12.46 | VIad | /me blows at Semlar. |
| 23:24.57 | [TOM_RUS] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiQ40Tkrqcc they hate me it seems |
| 23:26.48 | Predicate | That happens to any pet class. It's because a phased/invisible NPC from one of the zone intro quests can target pets. |
| 23:27.33 | Predicate | He hits your pet, flags you for PVP, the guards respond accordingly. Really annoying, but you can avoid it by dismissing your pet before you enter the room. |
| 23:35.17 | Semlar | well it looks like macros stop at the first spell they can't cast |
| 23:37.26 | Semlar | if it's on cooldown or you don't have resources or something it won't fall through to other casts |
| 23:37.48 | Semlar | that's not how it is on live is it? |
| 23:40.29 | Predicate | Been like that for a while. |
| 23:41.25 | Semlar | what? |
| 23:42.12 | Semlar | you can't macro cooldowns into your abilities? |
| 23:55.06 | Predicate | No, because that would allow one-button rotation macros. |
| 23:57.39 | foxlit | That's an interesting theory you have there. |
