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| 01:44.44 | Simca | 1.0.4.2H |
| 01:44.54 | Simca | you can do it, overwatch, keep going |
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| 01:55.34 | mckenziemc | no update here |
| 01:55.40 | mckenziemc | i haven't installed it ;) |
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| 02:05.59 | mckenziemc | also, how difficult would it be to replace "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10" in GWXUX.exe (the Get Windows 10 program) to say "Microsoft requests that you upgrade to Windows 10"? :D |
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| 03:06.07 | Amarande | mckenziemc: "For every day we see you haven't upgraded to Windows 10, we'll eat a kitten" seems to be what it's getting towards |
| 03:06.12 | Amarande | no wait, that's more the kind of thing Oracle would do |
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| 03:44.04 | Noshei | Amarande: except oracle would also charge you about $10,000 to do the upgrade. |
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| 04:17.27 | Gethe | Cairenn: http://www.maplematch.com/ |
| 04:18.02 | Cairenn | Hahahahaha |
| 04:18.20 | Gethe | :) |
| 04:18.39 | Gethe | i hope it wont come to that though |
| 04:18.48 | Cairenn | inorite? |
| 04:19.20 | Cairenn | Seriously though, I sure hope it doesn't, either. *shudder* *cower* |
| 04:19.56 | Gethe | yeah, or you guys might need to build a wall too... |
| 04:20.04 | Cairenn | Yeah, really |
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| 04:20.43 | Cairenn | To be completely honest - I just don't understand. Like, seriously? What the actual fuck, USA? |
| 04:23.19 | Gethe | idk, theres a guy at my work that supports him. Actually heard him say the catchphrase completely seriously. |
| 04:24.09 | Cairenn | What? "Make America Great Again" or something different. |
| 04:24.21 | Gethe | alot of it is the media though, giving him way more acreen time than he should. |
| 04:24.25 | Gethe | yeah that |
| 04:24.32 | Cairenn | nod |
| 04:24.43 | Cairenn | I just flat out don't get it. I just don't. |
| 04:26.49 | Cairenn | I'm so in confusion over it all that I'm actually breaking one of my own (personal) rules of not publicly talking about politics. |
| 04:27.13 | Gethe | this whole election has been pretty fucked from the get go, more so than usuall at least |
| 04:39.39 | mckenziemc | impulse-hedonocracy, Cairenn |
| 04:40.01 | Cairenn | Okay mckenziemc |
| 04:40.39 | mckenziemc | i won't say anything more |
| 04:41.54 | mckenziemc | except that my esp8266 works but doesn't work :'( |
| 04:42.54 | Cairenn | =/ |
| 04:47.57 | Gethe | hugs Cairenn |
| 04:48.04 | Cairenn | hugs Gethe |
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| 04:58.02 | Amarande | Cairenn: pretty much the establishment sabotaged the one candidate that people could really feel good getting behind :( |
| 04:58.19 | Cairenn | So it would appear |
| 04:58.34 | Amarande | so now we've got the GOP on one side (where the other candidates really weren't any better ... many think Cruz would have been worse still than Trump) |
| 04:58.52 | Amarande | and on the other side we're stuck with the promise of four more years of most likely the same corporatist bullshit we've been fed for the last few decades |
| 04:59.42 | Amarande | it was pretty blatant, too. you had districts where barely anyone showed up to caucus and they all wanted Bernie, and somehow they got a Hillary delegate |
| 04:59.56 | Amarande | and then you have Wyoming, where 56% were for Bernie, but Hillary got 11 delegates and Bernie 7 :| |
| 05:00.17 | Amarande | (mind you, the fact that they even found eighteen Democrats in Wyoming is amazing to some folks, but ... heh) |
| 05:00.58 | Cairenn | I just know that everyone -I- know is completely bamboozled by what is going on down there. |
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| 05:05.13 | Amarande | yeah, a lot of Americans aren't quite managing to understand this mess either |
| 05:06.01 | Amarande | I suppose part of it is the limited number of viable parties that first-past-the-post inevitably evolves into |
| 05:06.48 | mckenziemc | writes Amarande in. |
| 05:07.37 | Amarande | we've actually got a fair number of parties here, even with presidential candidates, but not enough people want to give them a chance at the voting booth |
| 05:08.02 | Amarande | doesn't help either that many many people vote more in terms of "we need to keep (worst nightmare candidate) out!" rather than "we really want (candidate they're actually voting for)" |
| 05:08.45 | Cairenn | That part I can understand - there was a lot of that that went on up here last election. 'Anyone other than ...' |
| 05:10.40 | mckenziemc | hugs Cairenn and escapes to bed. |
| 05:10.48 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
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| 05:15.44 | FireSiku | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.22 | FireSiku | I wonder with what kind of american I would get matched with. |
| 05:16.59 | Cairenn | Yeah. Like I said, not one of those things I typically discuss publicly, and not one of those things that I usually encourage in the channel, since it -can- lead to some strong ... opinions ... |
| 05:17.48 | Cairenn | but I am so completely mystified by what's currently going on in the US that I sometimes can't help but go 'WTActualF USA?' |
| 05:20.21 | FireSiku | Yeah, I can understand not want to talk this stuff publicly. Also, even as a canadian, we're waaayyy more interested in US politics than our own. Its kinda sad :( |
| 05:21.34 | Cairenn | Oh, I'm pretty interested in ours, too, but crap that goes on down there all too often has an unfortunate impact on us |
| 05:22.28 | Cairenn | And, frankly, I'm kind of terrified by what's going on down there right now. |
| 05:22.48 | Gethe | trust me, we are too |
| 05:22.52 | FireSiku | Yeah :/ |
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| 05:41.36 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn huggingly |
| 05:41.46 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 07:46.58 | FireSiku | oooh, Not sure if people cares, but just noticed that Square ported the Final Fantasy X/X2 Remaster to Steam. |
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| 07:47.53 | Torhal | Cairenn: I'm pretty sure I'm in a coma or something, and my traumatized brain is dreaming this shit up. |
| 07:48.17 | FireSiku | Dreaming what now? |
| 07:48.33 | FireSiku | The upcoming dystopian future? |
| 07:48.45 | Torhal | The current insane present. |
| 07:49.47 | FireSiku | Try to boot WoW, "Please make sure DirectX 9.0c is installed and your video drivers up to date" |
| 07:49.51 | FireSiku | Well that's a new one. |
| 07:50.05 | Fisker | What's insane about it? |
| 07:50.32 | Cairenn | nods at Torhal |
| 08:36.53 | Kalroth | sticks a cat to Torhal |
| 08:37.31 | Torhal | :/ |
| 08:37.38 | Torhal | But I already have so many... |
| 08:37.53 | Kalroth | Perfect, you wont notice one more then! |
| 08:38.07 | Kalroth | it's a red tabby |
| 08:54.51 | karl_w_w | http://store.steampowered.com/app/359870/ niceeeee |
| 08:55.09 | karl_w_w | expect it to be a horrible portttttt |
| 09:03.18 | jleclanche | !card mistcaller |
| 09:03.27 | jleclanche | hey wrong chan |
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| 09:04.21 | Kalroth | hi wrong jleclanche |
| 09:04.26 | jleclanche | :( |
| 09:04.30 | jleclanche | hi wrong Kalroth |
| 09:04.52 | Kalroth | hows it going wrongly |
| 09:05.12 | Torhal | So wrong. |
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| 09:05.40 | Kalroth | ties a catnip stick to Torhal |
| 09:06.09 | jleclanche | Kalroth: it's wrong, it's wrong. you? |
| 09:06.35 | Torhal | ties a mckenziemc to Kalroth. |
| 09:06.42 | Kalroth | very wrong, thanks for asking wrongly |
| 09:38.47 | FireSiku | karl_w_w: It's the PS4 version, this one has a chance of being a good port. I just want to believe :( |
| 09:52.15 | Simca | it's a Square PC port, pretty sure it is horrible by definition |
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| 10:14.36 | karl_w_w | afaik they have shown the ability to improve Simca, I think lightning returns was better than the previous |
| 10:18.12 | Simca | it's weird because they put effort into the portable system ports |
| 10:18.32 | Simca | but for PC they're like "eh, fuck testing, consumers will find bugs and it is PC so we can patch it, who cares" |
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| 11:26.01 | karl_w_w | more like for PC they were like "eh, that'll do, PC gamers don't care about 60 fps right?" |
| 11:26.28 | karl_w_w | because their patching efforts for XIII and XIII-2 were pretty woeful |
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| 12:14.49 | karl_w_w | straya http://www.iwebblog.org/2016/05/health-medicinelabiaplasty-australian.html |
| 12:14.51 | karl_w_w | NSFW |
| 12:17.37 | mitch0 | is it SFW with lynx? :) |
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| 12:21.37 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
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| 13:22.47 | Lopeppeppy | Today is being Tuesday. |
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| 13:49.14 | VIad | karl_w_w: what kind of fucked up government is doing that? |
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| 18:57.21 | znf | So, dilemma |
| 18:57.40 | znf | At our DC we also have some servers that offer Shared Hosting (cPanel). |
| 18:57.58 | Unkle | tacos |
| 18:58.24 | znf | A client is demanding more transparency when we change server-side stuff (we just implemented a WAF with ModSecurity and that broke one of his websites). |
| 18:58.49 | znf | How the hell would I do that without alarming other hundreds of clients that lack technical skills? |
| 19:01.22 | znf | While I'm probably the asshole here, I'd keep mentioning that if your website is mission critical and any changes to the stack could affect it, maybe you're better of paying more than 2â¬/month for hosting and going for a more dedicated approach |
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| 19:12.00 | zenzelezz | WAF? |
| 19:12.24 | nebula | application level firewall, w being web |
| 19:12.39 | zenzelezz | ah, I see |
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| 19:20.26 | Noshei | so hopefully all the lists the Cairenn sent blizzard will get beta invites in the next couple days |
| 19:22.02 | znf | zenzelezz, in thise case it just blocks known exploit calls to popular CMSs (like wordpress) |
| 19:22.23 | znf | For example, it blocks access to /xmlrpc.php if accessed more than 3 times in a row with a login request from the same IP |
| 19:24.45 | zenzelezz | interesting. Wonder what they were doing that broke |
| 19:25.11 | znf | Their payment gateway sends the following header: |
| 19:25.13 | znf | User-Agent: User-Agent: GKD_IPN v1.2 |
| 19:25.15 | znf | notice the mistake |
| 19:26.48 | Noshei | lol |
| 19:27.20 | Noshei | so because their code is bad they want you to provide them with information they will likely never use |
| 19:29.30 | zenzelezz | znf: heh |
| 19:30.15 | zenzelezz | I'm never going to claim I always write spectacular code, but sometimes I feel like I must be decent |
| 19:30.37 | znf | ...this is the biggest payment processor in Romania |
| 19:30.38 | znf | :-/ |
| 19:31.52 | Noshei | lol |
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| 19:37.24 | nebula | i mean, how could a malformed useragent break something |
| 19:37.36 | zenzelezz | znf: well they didn't become the biggest one by throwing away money at hosting! |
| 19:38.00 | nebula | (serverside) |
| 19:38.10 | zenzelezz | nebula: you'd be surprised |
| 19:38.31 | znf | nebula, comodo's WAF labels it as "rogue web site crawler", and it blocks the request |
| 19:38.48 | nebula | ah |
| 19:38.55 | foxlit | all it takes is one idiot writing "this should never be here!" rules. |
| 19:39.09 | foxlit | "Colon in your UA? BURN THE WITCH!" |
| 19:39.25 | znf | zenzelezz, no, the payment processor is not our client. One of our clients is using that payment processor |
| 19:39.48 | znf | the callback from the payment processor was blocked because our WAF noticed their broken user-agent and it just mislabeled it as a broken crawler |
| 19:40.19 | znf | Google? Safe |
| 19:40.20 | znf | Bing? Safe |
| 19:40.29 | znf | Script Kiddie Crawler? Nope. |
| 19:40.47 | foxlit | Script Kiddie Crawler with a "Googlebot" UA? Totally safe! |
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| 19:40.57 | znf | foxlit, at least they went trough the effort! |
| 19:41.23 | zenzelezz | I wish I didn't have to keep using case-insensitive checks on headers, because people are too lazy to capitalize them |
| 19:42.39 | znf | I don't particularly agree with that rule, but this shared hosting business is not exactly a big money maker, and I decided to go with the free Comodo WAF/modsec rules out of commodity. Those are normally tailored for clueless clients that don't upgrade their wordpress plugins and so on |
| 19:43.03 | znf | For example, this is good: http://i.imgur.com/hzg1Dgz.png |
| 19:43.22 | nevcairiel | just tell them that $2 a month doesnt give them tech support =p |
| 19:44.00 | znf | I'll have lots of fun in July when I scheduled the PHP 5.6 migration |
| 19:44.29 | zenzelezz | heh |
| 19:44.29 | znf | ...the previous guys on the job decided to leave all cPanel servers with PHP 5.3 |
| 19:44.31 | foxlit | next weekend: php7 migration. |
| 19:44.42 | foxlit | screw your mysql_escape_strings! |
| 19:44.53 | znf | While there's a "multi-php-selector" most people won't be using that. |
| 19:45.58 | znf | This is why it's good to look at the UA: http://i.imgur.com/3gPs6SN.png |
| 19:50.05 | nebula | 5.3 was 2009, wow, i haven't done much with php in a long time |
| 19:51.46 | foxlit | curseforge looks pretty dead from here. |
| 19:52.34 | Zeldo | What's wrong foxlit ? |
| 19:52.37 | foxlit | or maybe cloudflare gateway timeout pages are just too persistent. |
| 19:52.57 | Zeldo | What link are you trying to hit? |
| 19:53.01 | zenzelezz | sounds silly, but make sure it's not actually a redirect |
| 19:53.06 | zenzelezz | I *hate* redirected error sites |
| 19:53.11 | zenzelezz | "I've been refreshing for 10 minutes!" |
| 19:53.37 | foxlit | seems bettwer now, complaining clearly fixed it. |
| 19:53.48 | Zeldo | lol |
| 19:53.54 | Zeldo | Was it legacy or new site? |
| 19:54.01 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.04 | Zeldo | I assume since you said it in here legacy |
| 19:54.11 | Zeldo | yea okay |
| 19:54.33 | foxlit | (while logged in there's a curse comments section there; maybe it matters) |
| 19:55.09 | foxlit | Minor annoyance: ``code`` markdown in changelogs gets translated to <code> tags which promptly get entity-escaped on mods.curse.com |
| 19:55.31 | Zeldo | Link to example? |
| 19:55.45 | foxlit | http://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/m6x probably |
| 19:58.18 | Zeldo | Okay ty |
| 19:58.23 | Zeldo | I'll let the devs for that know |
| 19:58.24 | foxlit | (and now http://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/master-plan gets me a "Sorry, an error occurred while processing your request.") |
| 19:59.24 | zenzelezz | does appear to stay on Waiting |
| 19:59.35 | Zeldo | There is an issue with the sites right now foxlit, they are working on it |
| 19:59.40 | Zeldo | Refresh will prolly fix it |
| 19:59.48 | Zeldo | (Not Legacy though, that should be fine) |
| 20:02.17 | foxlit | what's legacy in this case? |
| 20:03.23 | Zeldo | Legacy is what wow is on |
| 20:03.32 | Zeldo | mods.curse.com and newer cf sites are on a new system |
| 20:03.45 | Zeldo | Master plan is now loading for me though |
| 20:08.19 | foxlit | mm, I presume it's just a matter of winning the cache game; most of the addon pages seem to have issues as you've said. |
| 20:11.19 | znf | So far, the WAF has been doing good. Decrease in load avg. across servers and only one client affected. |
| 20:11.22 | znf | Also, pretty graphs: http://bu-cpw01.appnor.net:19999/ |
| 20:15.16 | FireSiku | What's the difference between Legacy/New CF site? Or is it entirely backend and layout? |
| 20:16.07 | nebula | http://wow.curseforge.com/ = legacy, http://wildstar.curseforge.com/ = new |
| 20:16.15 | nebula | pretty much everything is different |
| 20:17.16 | znf | wow will never be on the new one! |
| 20:18.02 | Torhal | Not with that attitude, mister! |
| 20:19.25 | foxlit | so, um, it bugs me that localization repeats english keys like 8 times. |
| 20:20.56 | foxlit | (my localization code, that is, in tables of the form ["English text as key"]="Translated text for each locale") |
| 20:21.15 | nevcairiel | how would you avoid that |
| 20:21.53 | Simca | make english text as key a temp variable |
| 20:22.07 | Simca | reassign it every block of localized text |
| 20:22.29 | nevcairiel | that just adds one more line and doesnt really change anything =p |
| 20:23.19 | Simca | you are using a string literal that could change 1 time instead of 8 times |
| 20:23.20 | Simca | but okay |
| 20:23.40 | nevcairiel | its not like people are writing those files manually, at least i hope note |
| 20:23.42 | nevcairiel | -e |
| 20:23.44 | nebula | eh? it's automated |
| 20:24.08 | znf | There's advantages of only going out at night for a walk. Nobody saw me yesterday! I can wear the same t-shirt! |
| 20:25.11 | foxlit | dunno, maybe you could write per-key case selection instead of per-locale. |
| 20:25.23 | foxlit | =enUS and "Foo" or enGB or "Bar" |
| 20:25.29 | nevcairiel | that sounds worse |
| 20:25.39 | nebula | why does having the string repeat bug you? |
| 20:26.52 | foxlit | dunno. Redundancy, maybe. |
| 20:30.31 | foxlit | (could save like 40% of uncompressed locale file size) |
| 20:34.36 | zenzelezz | iOS string stuff (NSLocalizedString) is about the same. You can obviously choose to make your keys "DLG_LOL_TITLE" style, but seems many just do the full string repeated |
| 20:35.11 | zenzelezz | I found the same string with three minor variations (punctuation/typo) in one of our codebases because of that; couldn't figure out first why it didn't change everywhere |
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| 21:05.01 | foxlit | revenge of grade school math: if you pay $200/month into a 4% AER account, you'll earn $52.11 gross interest after 12 months. |
| 21:05.41 | foxlit | question: derive the sequence of operations necessary to arrive at that 52.11 figure. |
| 21:05.58 | zenzelezz | AER? |
| 21:06.25 | foxlit | "AER stands for Annual Equivalent Rate and illustrates what the interest rate would be if interest was paid and compounded once each year." |
| 21:12.04 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.06 | Simca | Interface\Icons\INV_Cape_RaidPreistMythic_Q_01.BLP |
| 21:15.18 | Simca | we can speel, we can spall, we can spul |
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| 22:21.09 | relaxok | Simca: the examples are neverending |
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