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| 00:51.35 | Kesava | hm |
| 00:51.41 | Kesava | sometimes the enter/esc keys don't work |
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| 01:02.38 | Stanzilla | don't get me started on keybinds in OW :< |
| 01:03.10 | Gnarfoz | just because they never put in your left/right hero selection thing |
| 01:03.23 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.30 | Stanzilla | and they deleted the old forums |
| 01:03.59 | Stanzilla | google cache to the rescue |
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| 01:45.11 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/tdn2XNE.jpg this is right down my alley |
| 01:49.57 | kullervo | this and variations of sure are making the rounds |
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| 02:06.02 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/XzCvZZh.jpg |
| 02:06.42 | karl_w_w | the premier league doesn't have a grand final |
| 02:07.01 | karl_w_w | leicester didn't play in the 2-2 draw |
| 02:07.06 | karl_w_w | a draw cannot be a win |
| 02:16.42 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: 'straya |
| 02:18.50 | znf | blizz shouldn't have turned on the overwatch switch |
| 02:18.53 | znf | now I'll get no sleep |
| 02:20.27 | Gnarfoz | you're just 3 hours late mate |
| 02:20.37 | pompy | ill just tell them to throw your switch. |
| 02:20.44 | Gnarfoz | or just throw him |
| 02:20.57 | pompy | that too |
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| 02:29.50 | znf | I love Reinhardt |
| 02:30.19 | Arrowmaster | holy shit im already holding my own in t6 rifts with this build |
| 02:33.12 | mckenziemc | http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71c8z67YJcL._SL1500_.jpg this makes me want to buy their product |
| 02:33.37 | mckenziemc | http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HZWOQZ6?psc=1 |
| 02:37.33 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: depending on tournament style, a draw between two competitors can secure a third's position |
| 02:40.56 | Rythal1 | How could they do something so evil as launch Overwatch days after Season 6 started... I'm never going to have time to finish my legendary rings before Legion now. |
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| 02:44.36 | karl_w_w | but that doesn't mean the match was won mckenziemc :P |
| 02:45.00 | mckenziemc | it doesn't say the match was won |
| 02:45.17 | karl_w_w | yes it does |
| 02:45.27 | karl_w_w | a grand final is a match |
| 02:46.01 | mckenziemc | but was that the 2-2? |
| 02:50.23 | Rythal1 | well that's interesting, I never realized if your signed into multiple games, it shows both your sent and received in all the games |
| 02:51.43 | znf | Oh. |
| 02:51.53 | znf | There's the concept of "team kill" in overwatch |
| 02:52.30 | znf | as in, team domination |
| 03:01.41 | Stanzilla | dominates znf |
| 03:01.56 | znf | hands Stanzilla some lube |
| 03:02.04 | Stanzilla | hot |
| 03:02.21 | znf | uh |
| 03:02.26 | znf | I've never had this map - Ilos |
| 03:02.27 | Stanzilla | znf: watch me kills monsters https://www.twitch.tv/stanzillla |
| 03:03.57 | Fisker- | rekt |
| 03:05.36 | znf | fuck diablo |
| 03:06.33 | znf | there's overwatch |
| 03:06.54 | Stanzilla | fuckin wasps |
| 03:09.40 | pompy | dont fuck with the stinging death swarm, bro |
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| 08:24.23 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: wasps are the worst |
| 08:24.56 | Gnarfoz | Rythal1: Overwatch hasn't launched, so you're fine for another 3 weeks |
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| 08:46.38 | VIad | what is up with the paladin tank in legion? with holy power gone. it's literally push every button that is not on cooldown, except for the few buttons with longer cds :p |
| 08:47.34 | VIad | gameplay wise looks quite bad as it is right now |
| 08:47.37 | nevcairiel | thats how most classes work, the task is to use the important skills at appropriate times |
| 08:48.07 | nevcairiel | and dont watch clickbait streamer videos, its bad for you |
| 08:48.24 | Gnarfoz | HoPo didn't make much of a difference before, either, imho |
| 08:48.33 | VIad | seems like blizzard will in legion move away from active mitigation being too usefull, to it just being there, and not doing too much |
| 08:48.41 | Gnarfoz | generating one every global barely made it seem important |
| 08:48.52 | nevcairiel | like i said VIad, stop watching inflamatory clickbait streamers |
| 08:49.22 | VIad | blizzard has a lot of time before the game launches so I reserve my right to nerdrage until the prepatch at least :p |
| 08:49.22 | nevcairiel | trying to stir up controversy gets viewers, but its not the actual truth of the game |
| 08:49.31 | Gnarfoz | it's like reading Monkoh's tweets |
| 08:49.42 | Gnarfoz | VIad: how about you rage then, instead of now? |
| 08:49.51 | VIad | I am not raging |
| 08:49.53 | Gnarfoz | or just check it out yourself and form a real opinion |
| 08:50.02 | VIad | luckily the tanks atm that look okay are the tanks I play :D |
| 08:50.10 | VIad | I don't have access to beta |
| 08:50.22 | Gnarfoz | that's a fixable problem |
| 08:50.38 | nevcairiel | what all these people disregard is that blizzard has already announce upcoming changes to prot paladins that change their game play quite a bit, but mentioning that wouldnt cause this nice controversy |
| 08:50.43 | Gnarfoz | also "looking ok", well, depends on who/what you're looking at, I guess |
| 08:50.47 | VIad | besides I would still have to wait until release, when things are done tweaking |
| 08:51.08 | VIad | wasnt it the monk that was getting the changes? |
| 08:51.15 | nebula | it was pretty funny how brm were bitching then celeston was like, listen scrubs, you're doing it wrong, play like this and everyone was like .....oh, well i guess that works...HERE'S ALL THIS MISC NITPICKY SHIT YOU'RE STILL DOING WRONG |
| 08:52.00 | nebula | play style changes are hard for people |
| 08:52.04 | nevcairiel | thats often a problem during alpha/beta, blizzard changing the classes and the players not immediately figuring out how to play them properly, resulting in them considering them "bad" |
| 08:52.05 | VIad | only clickbait videos I watch nevcairiel are from preach |
| 08:52.13 | nevcairiel | VIad: yeah, stop doign that |
| 08:52.21 | VIad | but I enjoy his drama fridays |
| 08:52.23 | nevcairiel | his tank video is full of crap |
| 08:52.51 | nebula | preach used to be pretty decent, he's gone to crap since he came back |
| 08:53.26 | nevcairiel | making a video on the sad state of the prot paladin right after blizzard announced quite a bunch of changes coming to a future build for prot paladins.... |
| 08:53.35 | nevcairiel | its nothing but clickbaiting |
| 08:53.39 | VIad | I think he is good at making entertainment. I guess he can't escape the obvious legion beta going on either. |
| 08:54.13 | VIad | maybe he didn't get the announcement, because he did note about the monk so he skipped his feedback on that |
| 08:54.43 | VIad | he recently made a general state of tanking, had to check it out since my main role is tanking |
| 08:57.52 | VIad | blizzard said that they want tanks to require more direct healing from healers, just worried if your average pug healer will now be able to keep you alive :p |
| 08:58.43 | VIad | freshly dinged disc priest having to heal the group + tank from aoe and heavy hitting boss - reminds me of early skyreach robot fight, was horrible |
| 08:59.10 | VIad | even when avoiding the aoe and his slams, healers would usually run oom because of his increasing general damage :D |
| 08:59.29 | VIad | well, it's not new that "normal" modes often also contain mechanics from the heroic |
| 08:59.50 | VIad | I remember cata beta, did some instance that was fine imo in normal, then some mechanics from the end boss went to the heroic instead, so normal became just faceroll |
| 08:59.58 | VIad | can't remember the instance atm :/ |
| 09:01.18 | VIad | anyone else playing tanks? |
| 09:01.24 | VIad | like main role |
| 09:04.43 | VIad | oh. google offers me their nexus 6p for $720 |
| 09:04.51 | VIad | free shipping - better be for a 720 phone :p |
| 09:05.30 | Gnarfoz | can I subscribe to your newsletter? |
| 09:05.44 | Gnarfoz | wait, feels like I did already |
| 09:06.28 | VIad | :D |
| 09:07.00 | VIad | you can always leave #wowuidev if the newsletter is annoying :p |
| 09:07.06 | VIad | but Semlar will miss you |
| 09:07.08 | nevcairiel | there is easier options |
| 09:07.30 | nevcairiel | labels VIad as Amarande 2.0 |
| 09:07.42 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:08.15 | VIad | everyone have their amarande moments |
| 09:11.43 | nebula | notice me senpai ;_; |
| 09:15.49 | Gnarfoz | you seem to have all of our Amarande moments |
| 09:25.45 | Phixion | /hug viad |
| 09:25.51 | Phixion | better |
| 09:25.55 | VIad | :D |
| 09:59.36 | Stanzilla | which streamer complained about pro paladin? |
| 09:59.54 | Stanzilla | I really dont want to read all of that backlog |
| 10:00.19 | nebula | preach |
| 10:00.37 | Stanzilla | never heard of him |
| 10:00.53 | Stanzilla | if you want solid tank opinions just stay with slootbag |
| 10:01.11 | nebula | never heard of mike preach? he's pretty old |
| 10:01.22 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 10:01.57 | nevcairiel | preach gaming on youtube or something |
| 10:03.10 | nevcairiel | but most youtubers and streamers just pick out the next controversy these days and blow it up, so shrug |
| 10:05.04 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 10:05.33 | Stanzilla | did you guys follow gronkh's recent experiment? |
| 10:05.49 | Stanzilla | where he made up thumbnails and titles that had nothing to do with the video? |
| 10:06.20 | nevcairiel | isnt that what most youtubers do |
| 10:06.33 | Stanzilla | exactly |
| 10:06.57 | Stanzilla | and he proved it in his own funny way, click rates were much higher when he added tits to the thumbnails |
| 10:07.02 | Stanzilla | humans are so simple :D |
| 10:07.09 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 10:27.35 | Semlar | did somebody mention boobs |
| 10:29.34 | Stanzilla | fondles Semlar's boobs |
| 10:30.03 | Semlar | no means no! |
| 10:35.08 | Kalroth | :o |
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| 13:44.47 | PhatsoTGT | good thing noone looked at the code i posted yesterday. |
| 13:45.01 | PhatsoTGT | retarded error was retarded |
| 13:48.08 | End | does that mean I should go look at it now? ;-) |
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| 13:51.03 | PhatsoTGT | well the reason its retarded is also retarded |
| 13:51.56 | PhatsoTGT | i assumed if i anchors to the chatframe i had to go -30 -10 to create a 20 height frame above chat. |
| 13:52.09 | PhatsoTGT | turns out yOffset is weirdo |
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| 14:12.05 | mckenziemc1 | hellos Cairenn1. |
| 14:12.10 | mckenziemc1 | o.o |
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| 14:28.55 | znf | Oh, this is cool. |
| 14:30.39 | znf | One of our ISPs just let us know that they're going to put down our fiber for 3 hours between 00-06am on the 10th. We have 2 BGP sessions over that fiber. We used to have 2 more peering partners, but someone before I came here decided that we're paying too much for those. Long story short, our DC will be without a data connection between 00-6am for 3 hours and there's nothing I can do about it |
| 14:31.36 | PhatsoTGT | math, where art thou? |
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| 15:15.44 | nebula | math? that's an outage window, not the actually down time |
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| 15:47.24 | Gnarfoz | you only have a one-way connection to them? |
| 15:47.35 | Gnarfoz | (I guess you would, when you once had redundancy through other means) |
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| 17:21.33 | PhatsoTGT | ayyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 17:22.28 | PhatsoTGT | got that chat rolling http://i.imgur.com/Rkjezj4.jpg |
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| 17:34.07 | Gnarfoz | for someone playing on a German realm, you sure seem very USian |
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| 17:36.24 | nevcairiel | you mean based on his ignorance level? |
| 17:37.21 | PhatsoTGT | at least im not baguette |
| 17:37.42 | mckenziemc | o.o |
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| 18:02.57 | foxlit | PhatsoTGT: good thing noone looked at the code i posted yesterday. << You shouldn't assume things, you know. |
| 18:03.28 | PhatsoTGT | well the bottom line is i fixed it |
| 18:03.36 | PhatsoTGT | see: link |
| 18:06.14 | foxlit | (please applaud) |
| 18:07.46 | Fisker | I'll applaud you foxlit |
| 18:09.11 | foxlit | Fisker: but I'm not done downloading yet :( |
| 18:12.59 | Fisker | Download what? |
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| 18:26.23 | zenzelezz | Fisker: a car |
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| 18:53.06 | Gnarfoz | grml |
| 18:53.23 | Gnarfoz | someone find out if Overwatch has a commandline arg to pick the display >_> |
| 18:53.41 | Gnarfoz | strings list is too long for my brain and trial & error is getting me nowhere |
| 18:53.58 | Gnarfoz | (at least it seems to not want to start if I give it wrong args, so that's nice) |
| 18:55.34 | Gnarfoz | doesn't help that Blizz wiped/hid the closed beta forums >_> |
| 18:57.42 | Ironii | just change it in the settings? |
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| 18:58.41 | Ironii | or is that too easy solution ;P |
| 18:59.04 | Gnarfoz | if that worked? yes. |
| 18:59.23 | Gnarfoz | that setting is only relevant for fullscreen exclusive |
| 18:59.55 | Gnarfoz | but I think I have a solution |
| 19:00.10 | Gnarfoz | I put WindowedPosX = "-1920" in the settings file, that seems to do the trick for now |
| 19:00.16 | kullervo | doesn't the window manager decide where windowed fullscreen apps go |
| 19:00.29 | Gnarfoz | "window manager", what is this, Linux? |
| 19:00.51 | Gnarfoz | I'm sure it does, but I'm also sure it only does so for programs that don't specify otherwise. |
| 19:01.11 | kullervo | windows has had a window manager since vista |
| 19:01.16 | Gnarfoz | it has had one even before that, derp |
| 19:01.51 | kullervo | a proper one |
| 19:02.02 | Gnarfoz | if it were proper, would it allow me to pick where programs appear? |
| 19:02.23 | Gnarfoz | yeah, thanks. WoW has had this feature, working, since I don't know when. probably half a decade at least. |
| 19:03.05 | Gnarfoz | pick "monitor 2" and regardless of fullscreen or fullscreen windowed, it appears on the same screen (which is: not the "primary display") |
| 19:03.05 | kullervo | and I meant really it's been called "desktop window manager" since vista |
| 19:03.32 | Gnarfoz | yes, I'm aware; that's still not the right avenue. :P |
| 19:04.05 | Gnarfoz | anyway, if I do it that way, and then move the window to another screen and back using win+shift+arrowkey, it suddenly is a lot smaller. |
| 19:04.06 | kullervo | I havent used a desktop linux or Unix system so can't compare |
| 19:04.26 | End | doesn't dwm only handle stuff like compositing anyway? |
| 19:04.49 | PhatsoTGT | this is going to be the dankest lua code ever written |
| 19:04.51 | Semlar | why don't you change your main monitor |
| 19:04.51 | kullervo | I use a third party tool, since I'm still on 7, but apparently new versions have that natively |
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| 19:05.01 | Gnarfoz | have what natively |
| 19:05.15 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: uhm, because that would affect EVERY program? |
| 19:05.22 | kullervo | moving fullscreen windows with a bind |
| 19:05.46 | Semlar | how many fullscreen programs do you want to open on different monitors |
| 19:05.46 | Gnarfoz | win+shift+arrow key exist in win7, too, I'm relatively convinced? |
| 19:06.11 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: I want all my games (which are all "fullscreen maximized", if available) to open on my non-primary screen. |
| 19:06.19 | kullervo | usually just one, I run multibox wow windows in... windows |
| 19:06.21 | Semlar | that sounds backwards |
| 19:06.26 | Gnarfoz | why? |
| 19:06.35 | Semlar | because it's your primary screen |
| 19:06.39 | Gnarfoz | uhm... and? |
| 19:06.49 | Gnarfoz | why would I want to obscure my taskbar just because I'm playing a game? |
| 19:06.55 | Semlar | you can move your taskbar |
| 19:07.07 | Gnarfoz | actually, you can't. |
| 19:07.09 | Gnarfoz | not like that, anyway. |
| 19:07.10 | Semlar | uh yes you can |
| 19:07.13 | kullervo | why do you only have a taskbar on one monitor? |
| 19:07.19 | Gnarfoz | ye gods |
| 19:07.22 | Semlar | i have my taskbar on my secondary monitor |
| 19:07.30 | zenzelezz | same |
| 19:07.36 | kullervo | I have one on every monitor, and it only shows that monitor's apps ._. |
| 19:07.42 | Gnarfoz | that's great |
| 19:07.45 | Gnarfoz | I have no use for that |
| 19:08.09 | Gnarfoz | I rarely use my second screen for something non-fullscreen |
| 19:09.32 | Gnarfoz | hm, right, I thought you could only pick between "on primary" or "everywhere" (with varying levels of filtering) |
| 19:09.38 | Semlar | i actually need a third monitor but i don't know where i'm going to put it |
| 19:09.48 | Gnarfoz | not that that makes a difference for me in the end, lol |
| 19:09.58 | Semlar | for your taskbar you can just unlock it and drag it anywhere |
| 19:10.12 | Gnarfoz | that's what I just did, yes |
| 19:10.28 | Gnarfoz | probably as recent as even having multiple native taskbars. :P |
| 19:10.54 | Gnarfoz | btw, proof that Windows certainly doesn't give a shit about window positioning: windows popping up with their titlebars/buttons under my taskbar. |
| 19:11.17 | Gnarfoz | (not just 3rd party ones, Windows' own dialogs also do it sometimes) |
| 19:11.39 | End | is this with the taskbar on the top? |
| 19:11.48 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 19:11.49 | End | or I guess side would do it |
| 19:12.00 | End | I've always had mine on the bottom so that confused me at first :P |
| 19:12.12 | Gnarfoz | even though that's been a feature since basically windows 95, it's still second-class somehow |
| 19:12.22 | zenzelezz | I've read enough The Old New Thing to grasp what he meant right away :-p |
| 19:12.25 | Semlar | i just assumed his programs were opening all the way off the screen |
| 19:12.27 | Gnarfoz | even mitch0's bazooka has better pushdown-code! :D |
| 19:12.46 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: I should totally read some more of that |
| 19:13.00 | Gnarfoz | in any case, I have a solution... for now. :D |
| 19:13.21 | Gnarfoz | here's to hoping Overwatch team can grab that particular bit of code from the WoW team at some time |
| 19:13.53 | zenzelezz | I think World of Tanks still doesn't have a windowed borderless mode; at least not last time I looked... which for the life of me I can't understand |
| 19:14.13 | Gnarfoz | and I think the "window suddenly smaller" was because I moved it into the TV, which is UHD res |
| 19:14.34 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that was it |
| 19:14.39 | PhatsoTGT | aa |
| 19:15.11 | Gnarfoz | time to do some actual pwning of open beta newcomers. :P |
| 19:15.59 | Gnarfoz | I guess it's just another window anyway, I wonder what it would do to performance if I moved it so it sits across two displays |
| 19:16.03 | Gnarfoz | probably nothing. :P |
| 19:16.10 | PhatsoTGT | uhh |
| 19:16.18 | PhatsoTGT | why cant i use /framestack anymore? |
| 19:16.25 | Gnarfoz | because it's /fstack |
| 19:16.33 | PhatsoTGT | game doesnt let me enter it |
| 19:16.35 | Gnarfoz | (isn't it?) |
| 19:16.38 | zenzelezz | Gnarfoz: I suppose it might mean drawing into two separate device contexts |
| 19:16.47 | Gnarfoz | well, then you probably have an error on your chateditbox, have fun. :D |
| 19:16.52 | PhatsoTGT | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.14 | Gnarfoz | the dangers of working on the input system you use to debug said input system |
| 19:17.33 | Gnarfoz | make an addon that shows a button to trigger the framestack thing. :D |
| 19:18.11 | Gnarfoz | sighs of relief |
| 19:18.29 | Gnarfoz | my not-really-OCD OCD has been satisfied, no more moving the game to the other screen every time I launch it. :D |
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| 19:29.26 | PhatsoTGT | so i figured out what part is fucking me with /fstack |
| 19:29.28 | PhatsoTGT | http://hastebin.com/eferigebas.lua |
| 19:29.31 | PhatsoTGT | but not why? |
| 19:29.37 | PhatsoTGT | anyone has a clue? |
| 19:30.38 | Gnarfoz | it has too much Trump |
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| 19:46.56 | Semlar | foxlit: here's an example header and body for one of the texture files http://semlar.com/wf/textures/ if you have any interest in it |
| 19:47.14 | Fisker | I need a hotfix Cairenn |
| 19:47.22 | Cairenn | ! |
| 19:47.49 | Fisker | My nose is a jerk |
| 19:47.52 | Semlar | i thought they were using dxt3 or dxt5 but i'm not sure |
| 19:48.28 | End | maybe you should stop associating with your nose |
| 19:48.48 | foxlit | tosses some Xylometazoline Hydrochloride at Fisker. |
| 19:48.51 | Fisker | :( |
| 19:49.00 | Fisker | Sounds good foxlit |
| 19:49.48 | Semlar | http://content.warframe.com/MobileExport/Lotus/Interface/Cards/Images/Melee/AckBruntNightwatchMod.jpeg this is what it's supposed to look like |
| 19:50.21 | foxlit | a full 3d scene rendering? :P |
| 19:50.33 | Semlar | well i'm pretty sure it's just a flat image |
| 19:50.36 | Semlar | but i could be wrong |
| 19:51.20 | Semlar | it might have some kind of alpha mask with it |
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| 19:55.33 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.00 | foxlit | it's rather short from a 256x256 image. |
| 19:59.04 | foxlit | s/from/for/ |
| 19:59.35 | Semlar | there might be another file, let me check |
| 19:59.59 | Semlar | they confusingly have 3 different copies of the same file in different archives |
| 20:00.23 | PhatsoTGT | what was that function again that shows you where the hooksecurefunc was called from=? |
| 20:00.42 | Semlar | debugstack? |
| 20:01.34 | foxlit | the best dxt can do for you is 0.5bpp, so it's missing like 10kb for a 256x256 |
| 20:02.54 | Semlar | i think there's another 64kb file with it |
| 20:03.18 | Semlar | i uploaded that one too |
| 20:03.30 | Semlar | in which case i have no idea what the 21kb file is |
| 20:03.55 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.28 | foxlit | that's at least exactly 256*256 bytes |
| 20:04.47 | Semlar | should it be some combination of those files or is it just the larger one |
| 20:05.27 | Semlar | this looks like it might be reversed to me |
| 20:07.15 | PhatsoTGT | well |
| 20:07.19 | Semlar | there's a lot of fairly empty space at the top |
| 20:07.23 | PhatsoTGT | fixed it |
| 20:10.18 | Semlar | it probably helps to work with the correct files though |
| 20:12.33 | Semlar | when i ripped them out of the game's memory they had an alpha mask that separated the subject from the background |
| 20:19.06 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.03 | Semlar | close |
| 20:20.16 | Fisker | My bed is calling out to me foxlit |
| 20:20.29 | foxlit | I woke up at 6, Fisker. |
| 20:20.31 | Semlar | i can actually make out the image |
| 20:20.34 | foxlit | Trouble is, it was the wrong 6. |
| 20:21.03 | Fisker | Good |
| 20:23.37 | Semlar | this probably shouldn't be 512x512 |
| 20:25.12 | foxlit | it was easier to over-allocate buffers |
| 20:25.53 | Semlar | it does look a bit overbuffed |
| 20:26.21 | End | nerf textures! |
| 20:29.01 | zenzelezz | kids these days |
| 20:29.16 | zenzelezz | when I was young, we were privileged if we had colored flat-shaded polygons |
| 20:30.17 | Semlar | the library i was using with python to read dds files isn't very happy about them not having headers |
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| 20:38.53 | Semlar | block size might be 4kb |
| 20:42.51 | End | that's conveniently the same size as a page, usually |
| 21:03.43 | foxlit | well, the good news is that it really is dxt5 and all the color data is there. |
| 21:04.37 | foxlit | https://go-hero.net/i/AckBruntNightwatchMod-q.png |
| 21:05.17 | Semlar | :O |
| 21:05.59 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/6OIVwKM.gif this is what it looks like in binvisio |
| 21:06.14 | Semlar | well, backwards |
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| 21:12.28 | foxlit | the bad news is that I managed to shuffle the stream such that instead of (alpha, color) data, I have chunks of (alpha, alpha) and (color, color) which get interpreted as the former. |
| 21:14.09 | Semlar | close enough |
| 21:14.34 | Semlar | i'm just looking to export a usable image |
| 21:14.56 | foxlit | this does not produce a usable image. |
| 21:15.53 | Semlar | you can't just rearrange it afterward? |
| 21:17.56 | foxlit | no. |
| 21:19.41 | foxlit | so the background is this: you need 8 bytes of alpha and 8 bytes of colour for every 16x16 pixel block. |
| 21:20.33 | foxlit | ideally, this looks like (a0, ... a7, c0, ..., c7) in the encoded stream; you can then decompress that to get the pixel data. |
| 21:22.13 | foxlit | instead, I have a stream of alternating 16kB chunks of (a0, ... a7, a0', ..., a7') and (c0, ... c7, c0', ..., c7') |
| 21:22.55 | nevcairiel | why cant you just re-interleave that, seems trivial to do |
| 21:22.56 | foxlit | which should be recombined into 32kB blocks of (a0, ... a7, c0, ... c7) followed by (a0', ..., a7', c0', ..., c7') |
| 21:25.08 | foxlit | you can reshuffle that into the proper order, but it's annoying. |
| 21:26.03 | foxlit | (plus, this is at the end of two other re-inerleaving operations, so ideally you should instead figure out what you needed to do from the beginning, and just do that directly) |
| 21:27.55 | Semlar | hmm |
| 21:29.20 | foxlit | so, given an input stream: 1. produce 2kB blocks by reading two 1kB blocks and interleaving them 4 bytes at a time. 2. Produce 2kb blocks by reading two 8kB blocks and interleaving them 8 bytes at a time. 3. Produce 32kb blocks by reading two 16kB blocks and interleaving them as described above. |
| 21:30.14 | foxlit | Obviously nothing could possibly work that way, and so there must exist a nicer way of fixing this. |
| 21:32.07 | foxlit | (also, s/2kb/16kB/ in 2.) |
| 21:55.03 | Semlar | i guess the other problem is that i'll need to convert this to a png or something |
| 21:55.40 | Semlar | i suppose i'll have to make headers for the DDS file |
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| 22:01.06 | foxlit | Semlar: https://go-hero.net/i/AckBruntNightwatchMod-a.png |
| 22:01.23 | nevcairiel | wasnt there a background some time ago |
| 22:02.17 | foxlit | it's probably still there; your renderer just respects the alpha channel. |
| 22:02.59 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure that version of it is to create a parallax effect in the game |
| 22:03.35 | Semlar | they separate the foreground from the background |
| 22:10.25 | foxlit | https://go-hero.net/i/AckBruntNightwatchMod-za.png if we just set it to 0 everywhere. |
| 22:13.31 | Semlar | what are you using as a header for the dds file |
| 22:13.39 | foxlit | I'm not. |
| 22:13.59 | Semlar | i don't have anything that will open it without a header |
| 22:14.13 | nevcairiel | foxlit probably wrote his own |
| 22:14.16 | nebula | you don't have that foxlit touch |
| 22:14.27 | Semlar | i was going to use pyglet to convert it to a png but it won't accept a headerless file |
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| 22:15.48 | Semlar | so it's hard to tell if what i'm generating is correct |
| 22:16.14 | foxlit | but realistically, what would you even put in a header? Width, height, format? |
| 22:19.45 | Semlar | i have no idea, https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb943982%28v=vs.85%29.aspx i don't know what half of these values would be |
| 22:20.51 | Semlar | this seems like a really big header |
| 22:22.36 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/EpicLOLcom/photos/a.188232814563181.58939.186592251393904/1027349137318207/?type=3&permPage=1 |
| 22:24.39 | Semlar | i mean there is technically a header file for this but it doesn't appear to contain the normal dds header format |
| 22:25.16 | Semlar | going by this page |
| 22:25.51 | foxlit | right, there's no header there. |
| 22:26.31 | foxlit | (well, at least in the image 64kb file -- that's pure image data) |
| 22:27.28 | Semlar | yeah that's headerless, but there's a separate header file which as far as i can tell has a 163 byte header, it's just not in the same format that this DDS header structure page is describing |
| 22:29.47 | Semlar | if the width and height are in there, they're shorts |
| 22:30.08 | Semlar | so it's not even close to the same format |
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| 22:32.33 | Semlar | can you send me a copy of what your dds file looks like |
| 22:36.29 | foxlit | Semlar: I don't have a dds file |
| 22:36.53 | Semlar | what do you have before you convert it to another file format |
| 22:39.09 | foxlit | An array of BGRA data in memory? |
| 22:40.10 | foxlit | (preceeded by an array holding the reshuffled DXT5 stream in memory, as deriving bgra might already count as a file format for you) |
| 22:40.34 | Semlar | i just want something to compare my output against |
| 22:40.52 | foxlit | so not pixel data. |
| 22:42.07 | foxlit | Semlar: https://go-hero.net/box/foo.bin |
| 22:43.45 | Semlar | i don't really know what the result of decompressing dxt5 is called |
| 22:43.58 | foxlit | an image. |
| 22:44.54 | Semlar | is it not a dds file? |
| 22:45.29 | foxlit | a dds file is presumably a header plus some encoding of image data. |
| 22:45.37 | foxlit | the link above is just an encoding of image data. |
| 22:46.32 | foxlit | the result of decoding that is basically the knowledge of what color/alpha value each pixel should assume. |
| 22:47.53 | foxlit | anyway, http://pastebin.com/7L98up3v |
| 22:48.00 | Semlar | thanks |
| 22:49.17 | Semlar | so it's just a stream of information about what each pixel should be |
| 22:49.25 | Semlar | each pixel is 4 bytes? |
| 22:49.41 | Semlar | BGRA? |
| 22:50.09 | foxlit | no. |
| 22:50.29 | foxlit | The .bin corresponds to dumping sbuf into a file just before calling readDXT5 |
| 22:51.07 | Semlar | i guess each pixel would have to be 1 byte anyway |
| 22:51.11 | foxlit | so it's a dxt5-encoded image, effectively 1 byte per pixel. |
| 22:53.02 | foxlit | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S3_Texture_Compression is somewhat reasonable |
| 22:54.17 | foxlit | (those formats also appear in BLP files, so you may or may not already have code to parse them) |
| 22:54.55 | Semlar | i did see a python blp converter on wowinterface that mentioned dxt5 |
| 22:55.12 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.45 | foxlit | meh, you'll still end up looking at c code there. |
| 22:57.19 | foxlit | and my version at least fits on a screen. |
| 22:57.32 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 22:58.54 | foxlit | or maybe not; it includes a python translation. |
| 23:00.02 | Semlar | the dxtc.py? |
| 23:00.16 | Semlar | it does contain a decodeDXT5 function |
| 23:01.26 | foxlit | I would hope it does what it says on the tin, but I haven't used it, so who knows. |
| 23:22.24 | relaxok | almost everything in blps is mipmaps of dxt1/3/5 |
