| 00:28.03 | Semlar | tries to calm Guill down |
| 00:37.56 | relaxok | Guill: What's the official line on .toc order? In the current tocs, stuff is referred to before its defined which never happened pre 7.0 |
| 00:38.15 | relaxok | i dont even know how you have that working =p |
| 00:39.43 | Guill | relaxok: I have no idea how that would work either. Unless it's stuff that people just don't notice being broken (like parenting to nothing instead of UIParent) |
| 00:39.48 | Guill | relaxok: Do you have any examples? |
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| 02:48.30 | sylvanaar | "Welcome to the Blizzard Voice Chat Alpha Test" |
| 02:48.39 | sylvanaar | Really. Again? |
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| 04:46.35 | Maldivia | Hehe |
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| 04:55.19 | Simca | i got an invite today too |
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| 05:02.52 | [TOM_RUS] | Simca, have you dumped decryption key yet? |
| 05:05.18 | Simca | no; wasn't immediately obvious how it worked and have exam today |
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| 06:02.33 | Fisker | hey Simca |
| 06:02.41 | Fisker | also hugs Cairenn |
| 06:02.54 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 08:28.40 | karl_w_w | wooooo |
| 08:28.55 | karl_w_w | oculus rift pre-orders are getting free shipping |
| 08:29.19 | karl_w_w | I just got handed $132 |
| 08:30.25 | nevcairiel | i didnt get a notification of that change |
| 08:32.11 | karl_w_w | emails are being sent out gradually it seems |
| 08:32.13 | nevcairiel | but its also only â¬42 for me |
| 08:32.24 | Fisker | Enjoy your Oculus Rift |
| 08:32.39 | karl_w_w | https://gyazo.com/c2b5b0d412679698f575a0d2de0bb940 |
| 08:33.10 | Fisker | Still no shipping for my vive :( |
| 08:33.16 | Fisker | But they started sending them out yesterday |
| 08:33.25 | Fisker | It better be here april 5th or else |
| 08:33.34 | nevcairiel | or else you wont have it by then? |
| 08:35.14 | karl_w_w | on the down side, I've run out of chocolate |
| 08:40.01 | Fisker | I might |
| 08:40.18 | Fisker | But those who got it sent yesterday have estimated shipping of april 5th/6th apparently |
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| 15:05.21 | VIad | hmm... been very bad at getting beta invites this year. I guess I didn't do a good enough job last times I was invited to beta test. :< |
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| 15:41.26 | karl_w_w | it's ok, there's no beta worth getting invited to |
| 15:44.27 | fewyn | pee-wee's big holiday was a pretty good movie |
| 15:44.40 | fewyn | also i don't get into betas anymore |
| 15:44.43 | fewyn | it's sad |
| 15:44.55 | fewyn | not that i have time for them anymore |
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| 16:08.32 | Cide | hi |
| 16:10.49 | Cide | foxlit: someone told me you wrote a lua RSA library? |
| 16:10.57 | Cide | by someone I mean Shirik |
| 16:12.28 | foxlit | yes, but that was a significant amount of time ago. |
| 16:13.56 | mckenziemc | ohai Cide |
| 16:13.58 | Cide | foxlit: do you still have the source? any chance it works? :) |
| 16:14.01 | Cide | mckenziemc: hai |
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| 16:15.31 | Cide | math doesn't receive backwards incompatible updates that frequently |
| 16:16.42 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 16:17.54 | foxlit | I'm not sure; it should theoretically exist still somewhere, but I'm not quite sure where. |
| 16:18.18 | foxlit | (was also on Curse at some point, but it probably didn't survive one of the curseforge transitions) |
| 16:18.34 | Cide | foxlit: do you remember the name? |
| 16:18.39 | Cide | I could try my luck |
| 16:19.45 | foxlit | prism. |
| 16:21.25 | foxlit | (Realistically, it was only a hash function + bignum exponentiation, so what you really got out of it was a questionable signature verification primitive. There is very likely better code around.) |
| 16:22.23 | Cide | nod |
| 16:24.18 | Cide | https://www.curse.com/downloads/details/8018/ seems to have been the link at one point in time :) |
| 16:24.35 | Cide | but it is indeed quite dead |
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| 16:33.59 | foxlit | well, maybe that's salvagable; http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/8018/ and http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/4581/ are soft-404ing |
| 16:34.31 | Cide | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22396-LibDSA.html might be a valid substitute |
| 16:35.16 | Zeldo | The first one has no files |
| 16:35.23 | Zeldo | and the second one has 1 file from 2007 |
| 16:35.35 | Zeldo | Not sure those are helpful :P |
| 16:35.36 | foxlit | 1 file from 2007 sounds appropriate. |
| 16:36.33 | Zeldo | http://legacy.curseforge.com/media/files/78/555/prism-0-1.zip |
| 16:36.38 | Zeldo | There ya go if that helps |
| 16:38.27 | fewyn | anyone know how long cooked meats (such as pork roasts and turkey) last if properly frozen in the freezer? |
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| 16:38.41 | Cide | Zeldo: foxlit: awesome, thank you for digging :) |
| 16:43.41 | foxlit | Zeldo: yeah, that's turned out to be the right project. |
| 16:44.52 | Zeldo | @fewyn If its cooked it doesn't last very long |
| 16:44.55 | Zeldo | Only like 2-3 months |
| 16:48.07 | foxlit | 'integer overflow attempting to store 2167925561' |
| 16:48.18 | mckenziemc | then don't |
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| 16:59.46 | znf | Apr 2 19:56:34 shiva dovecot: dovecot: Fatal: Time just moved backwards by 16 seconds. This might cause a lot of problems, so I'll just kill myself now. http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMovedBackwards |
| 16:59.53 | znf | Someone's having an existential crysis |
| 17:00.15 | foxlit | So not too bad. It broke formatting because %x now whines if you try to feed it a value representable as a 32-bit unsigned integer instead of a 32-bit signed integer, which only really affects text output, and scheduling because GetTime() no longer updates within a frame. |
| 17:00.55 | Cide | that's not so bad |
| 17:07.09 | foxlit | In terms of actual soundness, I'm reasonably certain you're supposed to pad the hash of the message you're signing, which this doesn't do. |
| 17:09.22 | foxlit | maybe safe if you're not behaving as a signing oracle and producing signatures on demand from untrusted inputs. |
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| 17:32.48 | bluipodcow | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17610892998 |
| 17:33.00 | bluipodcow | Player doesn't understand how an addon works |
| 17:33.08 | bluipodcow | Thinks it's black magic cheating |
| 17:34.14 | fewyn | addons are cheating |
| 17:34.16 | fewyn | they should be banned |
| 17:35.16 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 17:38.04 | g0urra | addon in question http://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/frodo-legendary-ring-companion |
| 17:40.55 | bluipodcow | So works via h combat log I guess ? Either that or tacking auras somehow |
| 17:50.11 | bluipodcow | I got it |
| 17:50.20 | bluipodcow | Looks like aura tracking |
| 17:50.37 | bluipodcow | TIL how to pull an addon apart on an IPad |
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| 18:03.35 | PhatsoTGT | well there are some addons that go deeply into that region tho |
| 18:03.44 | PhatsoTGT | well really only one |
| 18:03.49 | PhatsoTGT | forgot the name |
| 18:04.18 | PhatsoTGT | lets you code macros with combatlog conditions |
| 18:05.55 | Auro | hey, i'm having an issue where the objective frame won't hide for someone testing my addon. It always hides for me! It hides after Player_Entering_World and it confirms your in a Challenge Mode, https://gist.github.com/28f5425a623135e6f6c11e6b9c132d8f has all the code in question. If anyone could help i'd appreciate it |
| 18:31.00 | foxlit | Rule 7: bugs that you can't reproduce don't actually exist :P |
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| 18:31.41 | zenzelezz | bugs, until proven otherwise, are user errors |
| 18:32.34 | foxlit | If you don't think your Hide code is broken, you should probably be looking for what calls Show after you |
| 18:32.59 | foxlit | On an unrelated note, ObjectiveTrackerFrame:SetScript("OnEvent", nil); breaks the objective tracker. |
| 18:33.27 | Semlar | foxlit tracker still working though |
| 18:35.12 | foxlit | hm? |
| 18:36.39 | Semlar | tracks foxlit |
| 18:36.54 | foxlit | sorry, thought you were trying to communicate. |
| 18:37.00 | Semlar | that's not really what i do |
| 18:40.07 | foxlit | Auro: but I can share with you my favorite way to hide things that people keep insiting on Showing |
| 18:40.20 | foxlit | Auro: local f = CreateFrame("Frame") f:Hide() thing:SetParent(f) |
| 18:42.44 | Auro | Foxlit: sorry I was afk, ty very much i'm going to go test this solution |
| 18:44.02 | Auro | Foxlit: I wish bugs I can't reproduce didn't exist, couldn't reproduce my frame not popping up for the longest time until it happened randomly one day, hence - https://github.com/OhBizzle/GottaGoFast/blob/master/Core.lua#L83 |
| 18:45.00 | Auro | Foxlit: With your solution how do I re-show the ObjectiveTracker when someone leaves a CM since the frame is local? |
| 18:45.41 | Semlar | reparent it? |
| 18:45.54 | Auro | or just unparent? |
| 18:46.00 | Auro | is there a way to do that |
| 18:46.11 | foxlit | unparenting would be wrong. |
| 18:46.18 | Semlar | put it back to the parent it had before |
| 18:46.27 | mckenziemc | foxlit:SetParent(Semlar) |
| 18:46.28 | Semlar | which is probably uiparent but i haven't checked |
| 18:49.25 | Auro | Looks like UIParent - http://i.imgur.com/031f7uj.png |
| 18:50.10 | mckenziemc | or somebody else's temporary hiding frame! |
| 18:50.22 | Semlar | tries to calm mckenziemc down |
| 18:50.41 | Semlar | i guess you could store what it was parented to previously when you hide it |
| 18:50.55 | Semlar | rather than hardcode it |
| 18:51.29 | mckenziemc | unless the creator of the other hiding frame tried to remove it in the interim :a |
| 18:51.34 | mckenziemc | don't you just love compatibility issues |
| 18:51.54 | Semlar | no |
| 18:52.04 | Auro | lol, tracking the old parent is a good idea |
| 18:52.13 | foxlit | simple fix |
| 18:52.20 | foxlit | don't run addons written by anyone else. |
| 18:52.27 | Semlar | i agree |
| 18:52.39 | mckenziemc | or that you coded while drunk? |
| 18:53.14 | Semlar | what's with firstTimeLoaded and variablesLoaded in that dump, is that something the debug addon is tracking? |
| 18:54.17 | Auro | Umm i'm not sure whats goin on iwth that |
| 18:55.05 | Semlar | GetParent appears to be returning a table that isn't the frame |
| 18:55.57 | Semlar | oh nevermind |
| 18:56.13 | Semlar | i was confused by the way they're outputting this |
| 18:56.30 | Semlar | those are just keys in the UIParent table |
| 18:57.31 | Semlar | don't mind me |
| 18:58.12 | Auro | haha ok :) ty for your help so far guys. I'm having my friend test it whos in CMs right now, but the objective frame is hiding for me, and showing when I leave a cm |
| 18:59.26 | Auro | https://github.com/OhBizzle/GottaGoFast/commit/4231680854b3dc02c669ccfccead0be2b88c96a8 |
| 19:04.25 | foxlit | It would probably be better to just hardcode UIParent |
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| 19:12.38 | foxlit | (you're also creating a new frame every time you hide objective tracker; should probably just reuse one) |
| 19:13.59 | Auro | Ohh ok, how would I go about reusing it properly? |
| 19:22.17 | Semlar | ..create the frame outside of the function |
| 19:22.18 | foxlit | create and hide f outside the function, then SetParent inside the function |
| 19:22.34 | foxlit | at that point you might rename f to hiddenParent or something. |
| 19:23.34 | Semlar | rename it to foxlitFrame |
| 19:24.15 | Auro | yup i'll show you guys what I did. I just created a new hide frame on init - https://github.com/OhBizzle/GottaGoFast/commit/c5adcda29c1e0ea693c277845597c2eb2e789b10 |
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| 20:01.11 | Fisker | extremehugs Cairenn |
| 20:01.18 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 21:02.26 | PhatsoTGT | yooo |
| 21:02.27 | PhatsoTGT | wut |
| 21:02.36 | PhatsoTGT | ForteXorcist discontinued? |
| 21:18.15 | Stanzilla | like |
| 21:18.18 | Stanzilla | 2 years ago? :D |
| 21:19.01 | PhatsoTGT | ye |
| 21:19.10 | PhatsoTGT | i used it for a long time. |
| 21:19.26 | PhatsoTGT | funny that its still working like a charm lol |
| 21:19.37 | PhatsoTGT | thats some solid fucking coding right there |
| 21:20.24 | Stanzilla | http://www.aleaaddons.ru/p/fortexorcist.html |
| 21:20.27 | Stanzilla | you want that^ |
| 21:20.28 | PhatsoTGT | still fucking pissed that i cant access virtual templates |
| 21:20.52 | PhatsoTGT | whats that? |
| 21:20.59 | Stanzilla | a maintained fork |
| 21:21.44 | PhatsoTGT | damn |
| 21:22.00 | PhatsoTGT | russia has some serious work to do with their public perception |
| 21:22.33 | PhatsoTGT | cant fucking see any .ru address without being immediately weirded out |
| 21:25.29 | Cide- | I'm not sure it's only a matter of their public perception |
| 21:25.41 | Cide- | based on your reaction perhaps you have some work to do yourself as well |
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| 22:14.01 | PhatsoTGT | i fukkin hate that i cant access virtuals... http://i.imgur.com/NblGStu.jpg its destroying the look but i dont want to do all that hacky shit either |
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| 22:32.19 | Cide | does anyone know offhand what happens when storing a table with a metatable in savedvariables? is the metatable just ignored? |
| 22:32.53 | foxlit | I vote for "it is just ignored" |
| 22:33.00 | foxlit | (but that's not "know") |
| 22:33.29 | Cide | yeah, that would be my guess also :) |
| 22:34.27 | Cide | thanks |
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| 22:51.33 | Phatso | why are my frames not showing up with their Framenames in Framestack but as UIParent.23456874a3532 or some shit like that? |
| 22:52.19 | foxlit | because they have no names. |
| 22:55.45 | Phatso | local SX_bottombar = CreateFrame("Frame",SX_DataBar_Panel, UIParent) |
| 22:55.48 | Phatso | yes they do |
| 22:55.59 | zenzelezz | no |
| 22:57.02 | Phatso | well can you elaborate? |
| 22:57.04 | zenzelezz | assuming that is a verbatim copy-paste, try using "" around the second parameter |
| 22:57.16 | Phatso | oh |
| 22:57.19 | Phatso | fuck me |
| 22:58.34 | mckenziemc | no thanks |
| 22:58.37 | Phatso | yeah that was it |
| 22:58.48 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 22:59.04 | Phatso | weird that lua just goes with it |
| 22:59.21 | mckenziemc | it's perfectly happy with nil |
| 22:59.30 | Phatso | shouldnt it blow the fuck up if i use local/globals that do not exist? |
| 22:59.36 | mckenziemc | no |
| 23:00.07 | zenzelezz | lua is in the school of "let's just nil it"-languages when it comes to that |
| 23:00.22 | zenzelezz | as opposed to C/C++-type "WHOA! WHAT THE HELL?" languages |
| 23:01.08 | zenzelezz | I prefer the compiler/interpreter shouting at me because of this exact kind of situation |
| 23:01.13 | zenzelezz | been burned before :-p |
| 23:02.07 | tz | could you set _G's metatable __index field? |
| 23:02.13 | tz | has no idea if that'd work |
| 23:02.15 | foxlit | sure, if you're a maniac. |
| 23:02.28 | Phatso | short question: good addontone is generating the frames on ADDON_LOADED correct? |
| 23:02.54 | tz | so, in how many addons do you do that, foxlit? ;) |
| 23:03.04 | tz | wait |
| 23:03.04 | foxlit | none; it's high on the list of things you shouldn't do in wow. |
| 23:03.06 | tz | that'd be more Semlar |
| 23:03.59 | foxlit | although Toboe does do something like setting a metatable on _G. Except it's not _G. But it's like _G. Go read some code. |
| 23:05.19 | foxlit | Phatso: as opposed to what, exactly? |
| 23:05.32 | Phatso | generating them on demand? |
| 23:06.14 | tz | yeah fair enough, proxies for the real _G but intercepts writes in the process |
| 23:06.45 | tz | more more curious if _G had special handling along those lines, been ages since I looked at the inner workings |
| 23:07.11 | foxlit | Phatso: No. You do whatever makes sense to you. |
| 23:08.10 | foxlit | you don't have to create the whole universe during the loading process, and doing so might just be a waste of time if it never ends up being used. |
| 23:08.33 | foxlit | conversely, it might not be worth the effort to delay creating things that you might not need. |
| 23:10.31 | *** join/#wowuidev FireSiku (~FireSiku@216.228.216.83) |
| 23:12.39 | foxlit | hm, MAX_ACCOUNT_MACROS is in UIParent now (which is still wrong, but better than Blizzard_MacroUI). When did that happen? |
| 23:16.15 | Phatso | FriendsFrameFriendsScrollFrameScrollBarThumbTexture |
| 23:16.19 | Phatso | yo dawg |
| 23:29.33 | Cide | thanks |
| 23:29.35 | Cide | whoops |
| 23:31.21 | *** join/#wowuidev zenzelezz (~Lasse@cm-84.213.202.209.getinternet.no) |
| 23:32.31 | foxlit | ... and out of the Deathlord comes... Elise. |
| 23:32.32 | Cide | zenzelezz: speaking of the lack of a lua compierl |
| 23:32.34 | Cide | compiler |
| 23:32.42 | Cide | I wrote a Go->lua transpiler |
| 23:32.51 | Cide | so I can write wow addons in Go |
| 23:32.55 | Cide | pretty fun stuff |
| 23:33.23 | Cide | also pretty stupid but hey |
| 23:33.39 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 23:33.48 | zenzelezz | "stupid" is irrelevant for fun projects |
| 23:33.49 | FireSiku | foxlit: That sounds like one of the best things to get out of Deathlord. That and Reno. |
| 23:34.01 | foxlit | obviously not for the person getting Elise. |
| 23:34.16 | Phatso | write a lua html5 interpreter and make virtuals editable if you're at it |
| 23:34.49 | Cide | zenzelezz: yeah, it's actually quite nice |
| 23:34.53 | Cide | but sometimes it's painful |
| 23:34.59 | Cide | like when dealing with ace option tables |
| 23:35.00 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 23:35.11 | Cide | doesn't lend itself well to static typing |
| 23:36.15 | zenzelezz | I once tried to instantiate Fisker, but the compiler said he was an incomplete type |
| 23:36.49 | foxlit | Stray globals are easy enough with globe. |
| 23:36.55 | foxlit | My annoyance is now the |
| 23:37.08 | foxlit | local foo, bar = baz() bux() construct. |
| 23:37.56 | foxlit | also local foo, bar = baz() "bux" |
| 23:38.12 | foxlit | although that tends to break faster. |
