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| 01:22.06 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.54 | Mr_Rabies | i only eat strawberry jam, sorry |
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| 01:51.18 | Trela | foxlit: Stop making me miss FFXIV. D: |
| 01:53.19 | mckenziemc | "You can find solutions grouped by language, author and country at http://go-hero.net/jam, a site written by contestant foxlit." |
| 01:53.23 | mckenziemc | must be a coincidence |
| 01:54.12 | Amarande | Trela: stop making me miss FFXIV :( |
| 01:54.13 | kd3 | oh, huh, 'a site written by contestant foxlit' |
| 01:54.48 | mckenziemc | :) |
| 01:55.06 | kd3 | wow, way to not read chat, kd3 |
| 01:55.40 | Trela | white mages for Amarande. Pew pew, heal. |
| 01:56.48 | Amarande | hopefully getting caught back up again won't be too painful |
| 01:56.59 | Amarande | I never did manage to get all the EX Primals done during 2.x, either :( |
| 01:57.21 | Amarande | wonder if anyone's still doing the old ones (apart from the hire groups that want 7-digit gil figures) |
| 01:57.56 | Trela | I just never finished leveling in Heavensward. About half way through I did not want to do it anymore. o.o |
| 01:58.15 | foxlit | Mogpoms for everyone! |
| 01:58.36 | Amarande | GOOD KING MOGGLE MOG GOOD KING MOG |
| 01:59.00 | Amarande | ... I recall that was the one I was stuck on when I decided to take a break |
| 01:59.16 | Amarande | also, I was getting frustrated with the fact that the battle design seemed to very specifically hate on my particular choice of job :S |
| 01:59.20 | foxlit | Thordan is a similarly nonsensical fight |
| 01:59.46 | mckenziemc | this discussion is nonsensical |
| 01:59.49 | Amarande | and apparently the community is not sympathetic, the reply to BLM difficulties has a tendency to be a razzing about the entitlement mentality of career MMO casters :p |
| 01:59.56 | foxlit | "here, let me just throw those 9 named adds at you" |
| 02:00.31 | Amarande | however, BLM has had balance issues ... in 2.x it got bad enough that Coil statics apparently stopped fielding caster DPS altogether |
| 02:00.51 | Amarande | they actually found it easier to just have three MDPS and a BRD than deal with the dance difficulties of a caster |
| 02:00.54 | Trela | I just stand in the back and heal. Hopefully no one dies. |
| 02:01.42 | Amarande | I came to understand why WoW gives Mages such huge damage advantage over just about all other DPS |
| 02:01.57 | foxlit | kind of makes me miss the Dungeon Journal |
| 02:02.19 | Amarande | it's so you have a buffer so you don't become absolutely sucktastic on movement heavy fights |
| 02:02.56 | Amarande | ... like BLM and SMN have a sad tendency to in FFXIV (BLM finds movement more painful than a RA patient, in particular, and neither caster class is anywhere close to top dog on DPS initially either) |
| 02:02.58 | Trela | Yeah. Same goes for heal over time spells. Buffer need when you can not stop to heal. |
| 02:03.13 | Trela | *needed |
| 02:03.39 | Amarande | FC chat got pretty heated over the thoughts about BLM |
| 02:03.58 | Amarande | the other BLM main in FC (lots more progressed than I) pretty much shared my feelings about how troublesome it was getting to be a caster |
| 02:04.14 | Amarande | an SCH on the other hand left the FC in a huff ... perhaps because I blamed SCH for the problems experienced by caster DPS |
| 02:05.25 | Amarande | reason I blame SCH: the chief difficulty of BLM is not only that there's a lot of dancing, but the fact that unlike most cases in WoW (except maybe on mythic), there is basically no margin for error |
| 02:05.50 | Amarande | in WoW, you can afford to stand in fire for a second to finish your cast, in FFXIV you are essentially 100% forced to clip it |
| 02:06.23 | Trela | Those telegraph areas are unforgiving. |
| 02:06.34 | Amarande | the reason for that? because basically every avoidable thing has to pretty much be outright fatal for it to really matter at all, which is because of the basically never-end heal capacity of Scholars |
| 02:07.02 | Trela | That is mainly why I stopped. Raid mechanics are stand in the telegraph area and die. |
| 02:07.06 | mckenziemc | clips Amarande. |
| 02:07.07 | Amarande | if it wasn't fatal the SCH would just patch you up with barely any loss of resource ... MP attrition for healers really doesn't seem to be much of a thing in FFXIV, unlike WoW where mistakes that require extra healing tend to cause OOM |
| 02:07.37 | Amarande | Trela: yeah, and telegraph attacks being so black and white basically murders casters even if they didn't have the complex rotation of a BLM |
| 02:07.50 | Amarande | melee are ideally suited to dodge them with their instant attacks, rooted casters are screwed |
| 02:07.58 | Trela | I have a summoner. It hurts. |
| 02:08.10 | Amarande | yeah, but at least summoner is more traditional warlock style |
| 02:08.35 | Amarande | BLM you tend to lose more than just DPS, your mana cycle tends to get completely flummoxed |
| 02:08.54 | Trela | https://i.imgur.com/wwrPGWM.jpg |
| 02:09.17 | Amarande | e.g., get stuck having to do lots of movement when it's time to switch from fire to ice ... fire buff drops off, now you can't afford Blizzard III |
| 02:09.38 | Trela | I have tried black mage and I really did not like the stance dance. |
| 02:09.53 | Amarande | Ahhh, Limsa. Pretty place. :) |
| 02:10.40 | Trela | Ah, here is the better one. https://i.imgur.com/MMpZURy.jpg |
| 02:11.09 | Amarande | I suspect my MMO career may soon boil down to just WoW and SW:TOR for the foreseeable future |
| 02:11.24 | Amarande | ... maybe neverwinter, it seemed nice enough though it looks like microtransaction bankruptcy hell in the long run |
| 02:11.59 | Amarande | FFXIV leaves me with an increasing feeling that not still having youthful ninja reflexes is going to be a show stopper ultimately |
| 02:12.17 | Amarande | the other MMO I used to play regularly is LOTRO and there's a lot of collective feeling it's only got about a year and a half left to go |
| 02:12.35 | Trela | Almost impossible to take a bad picture in FFXIV. https://i.imgur.com/xfu2e5C.jpg |
| 02:12.49 | Amarande | (as in, it's likely that it will not be doing well enough to justify Turbine renewing the Middle-Earth licence in 2017) |
| 02:13.15 | Trela | The fact that FFXIV is doing well enough for a subscription is amazing. |
| 02:13.29 | Amarande | yeah, I think if WoW ever falls flat on its face FFXIV is quite likely to grab the torch |
| 02:13.40 | Amarande | assuming they keep up the good work |
| 02:14.08 | Trela | People learning they have to play catch up to catch up coming into FFXIV might be a disaster though. |
| 02:14.33 | Amarande | there's not much of a solution there |
| 02:14.41 | Amarande | both forced progression and forgiven progression have their weaknesses |
| 02:15.03 | Elmoe | the 2.5s gcd and lack of addons made FFXIV ultimately unplayable to me |
| 02:15.11 | Elmoe | had similar issues trying to get into SWTOR |
| 02:15.13 | Amarande | e.g., WoW has the other extreme, there's a tendency for nothing to matter at all besides the one most recent raid instance |
| 02:15.30 | Trela | At least it has a reasonably good interface to start with. |
| 02:15.37 | Amarande | SWTOR gives a more versatile interface if you subscribe |
| 02:15.45 | Amarande | I wouldn't play SWTOR while not a subscriber these days anyways |
| 02:16.02 | Elmoe | I played SWTOR at release where the only option was subscription and the UI was unusable in raids as a HOT healer imo |
| 02:16.15 | Trela | The long GCD, well, lots of suspect there that SE's server developers are not as experienced as others out there. |
| 02:16.17 | Amarande | also SWTOR seems less unforgiving in terms of the nimbleness demands |
| 02:16.32 | Amarande | unless you're doing Cademimu, anyway. Fuck Cademimu sideways with a double-end saber :P |
| 02:17.00 | Amarande | Trela: yeah plus the fact that DoTs and such tick on a fixed server heartbeat rather than dynamically based on when applied like in other MMOs |
| 02:17.01 | Elmoe | WoW has really spoiled us wrt addons |
| 02:17.37 | Trela | At launch FFXIV's server did not compensate telegraphs for round trip latency. 600ms was typical so a telegraphed attack would start on the server and hit the player before the player could even dodge in many cases. |
| 02:17.43 | Trela | *servers |
| 02:17.49 | Amarande | I'm still wondering how SWTOR's level sync feature handles bonus series and 'return to this planet for story' events now though |
| 02:17.54 | Trela | Well, did not compensate for it well. |
| 02:18.03 | Amarande | last time I played was before level sync, and it occurred to me that those things must have posed some kind of issue |
| 02:18.22 | Amarande | Trela: well, that's assuming dodging was even something you got to do :( |
| 02:18.30 | Amarande | Eff you, Titan EX :( |
| 02:18.55 | Amarande | "okay, don't stand in this bad, or this bad, or that bad, or that fire, or this shit, or ... wait, why am I falling off the edge now?" |
| 02:19.16 | Trela | FFXIV summed up: Beautiful, well structured progression, good class system. Clunky as hell combat. |
| 02:19.20 | Amarande | Titan EX features quite a number of patterns where like, EVERYTHING is "don't stand in it" LOL |
| 02:20.22 | Amarande | Trela: also mandatory solo battles that don't balance well across classes (i.e., are a breeze or absolute brutality depending entirely on what job you chose) |
| 02:20.56 | Trela | White Mage solo battles. "I'M TRYING TO HEAL YOU... PLEASE ATTACK THE THINGS." ;_; "Why am I doing both?!" |
| 02:21.11 | foxlit | I like the longer GCD |
| 02:21.31 | Amarande | Or solo battles where an NPC was required to survive and you were a physical DPS |
| 02:21.54 | Amarande | Dragoons got hit HARD by that kind of stuff around level 40ish in particular |
| 02:22.17 | Amarande | typically, your "tank" would turn out to be the mandatory survival NPC, and they'd also not really be very tanky :P |
| 02:22.36 | foxlit | However, the movement/casting interaction is the weirdest and most unfortunate thing ever |
| 02:23.10 | Amarande | I found BLM was quite a lot better off, because caster leveling gear almost always has both heal and pewpew stats on it, so cross-classing a heal worked beautifully till you hit 50 and gear got more specialised |
| 02:23.26 | Amarande | foxlit: yeah, there's times when I wonder if the traditional MMO caster is doomed to die out long run |
| 02:23.40 | Trela | Rogues, always better. |
| 02:23.44 | Amarande | because ultimately you have to make the dances more high stakes and precise in order to keep difficulty rising so vets don't get bored |
| 02:24.07 | Amarande | but there comes a point where it'll basically mean cast bar based characters can no longer function reasonably |
| 02:24.07 | foxlit | That's fine for me. |
| 02:24.28 | Amarande | and MMOs tend to virtually always force casters to have the "stand still for X seconds" cast bar mechanic |
| 02:24.31 | foxlit | The latency on cancelling casts is more of a concern. |
| 02:24.39 | Trela | Allowing casters to move while casting would fix the problem, but then PvP would suffer. |
| 02:24.48 | Amarande | the only exception I can think of offhand is the Minstrel from LOTRO |
| 02:24.59 | Amarande | caster type, mainly instant moves like a melee though |
| 02:25.34 | Amarande | Trela: to which one has to wonder how important that is in FFXIV's case at least, since PvP apparently is not popular in FFXIV anyway |
| 02:25.48 | Amarande | however, that's a point ... especially since it seems like devs have a tendency to prioritise PvP |
| 02:25.50 | Amarande | not sure why |
| 02:26.06 | Trela | My first thought of PvP in FFXIV: "LOL WHY?! The latency is terrible." |
| 02:26.27 | Amarande | (it's one of the reasons LOTRO is suffering badly, because they made a design decision or two a while back to repair PvP issues and it *utterly screwed up* certain PvE quests, even some main story ones) |
| 02:26.47 | Amarande | is it actually the rational thing to do to prioritise PvP in MMOs? |
| 02:27.11 | Amarande | I always thought most MMO players were either PvE only or played PvP only casually, hardcore dedicated PvP players being comparatively rare |
| 02:27.55 | Amarande | but I haven't really found any real statistics on it |
| 02:28.17 | Trela | PvP has always been that cause of PvE suffrage in WoW. That awesome spell that is balanced in PvE, but not in PvP? We fixed it for PvP... Without keeping it good for PvE. |
| 02:28.31 | Amarande | exactly, that's always annoyed me too |
| 02:28.47 | Amarande | oh, and Redridge is virtually uncompletable now due apparently to fixes a while back to Druid explosive mushroom abuse in PvP |
| 02:28.59 | Amarande | you pretty much just have to outlevel it and come back when the elites are no longer scary |
| 02:29.23 | Trela | Blizzard has mechanisms for making spells work two different ways in different settings, but fuck that technology I guess. |
| 02:29.48 | Amarande | (ever since that fix, it's been heavily problematic to try to use the item that's supposed to distract the elites, it keeps having targeting issues) |
| 02:30.27 | Amarande | although there's probably business reasons in Blizzard's case |
| 02:31.06 | Amarande | PvP greats get to go to an arena tournament with major prizes ... PvE greats get to be called uber nerds and be the high-strung elitist raiders that get on lots of people's nerves LOL |
| 02:33.03 | Amarande | plus I've always had a feeling legal spectres could arise if arena is not well balanced enough - if it doesn't keep up enough of a standard as a "game of skill" I could easily see it get in trouble as "online gambling" since you pay cash to enter and can win cash |
| 02:33.22 | Amarande | perhaps a bit conspiracy theorish ... then again the environment does not seem friendly at the moment, remember the fantasy football bans in NY and such |
| 02:34.58 | Amarande | though really in the long run I suppose PvP is what keeps games alive ... and that the PvE game model is not indefinitely sustainable :( |
| 02:35.26 | Trela | I pay to level to maximum and come back for the next expansion. |
| 02:35.34 | Amarande | i.e., to keep PvE sustainable you have to keep spending lots of money on actual content, in PvP the players are the content and you just have to maintain rules and setting |
| 02:36.33 | Amarande | yeah, I level up, usually run the heroics, maybe dabble in raiding for a while at some level, then I go on hiatus |
| 02:36.49 | Amarande | usually because I'm missing one of my other MMOs and I feel like I can't justify staying subbed to more than one at a time |
| 02:37.03 | Amarande | whether I pay $15 or $60 a month I still only have the same amount of time to play |
| 02:37.41 | Amarande | in WoD's case I didn't even level to max, but real life's gotten in the way a lot lately |
| 02:39.01 | Amarande | right now, I only have a T420 laptop with Debian to work with, 16GB RAM and a speedy enough CPU but only HD3000 Intel graphics (which won't even meet min spec for Legion) |
| 02:40.02 | Amarande | (plus a bit of wondering if I should worry about Oracle v Google having significant potential for resulting in Microsoft crushing Wine out of existence ... not sure if that's really an issue though) |
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| 03:17.33 | Iriel | Woot: Your order has been processed and your Rift is almost on its way! Look for a shipping confirmation email with tracking information soon. |
| 03:19.12 | Amarande | "While you're waiting, here is a list of bankruptcy lawyers who you might want to consider as you probably just spent all your money on your Rift and the associated computer hardware to run it with." :) |
| 03:19.42 | Iriel | heh |
| 03:19.53 | Amarande | personally I'm not sure how well VR is going to take off, though |
| 03:19.59 | Amarande | especially now that gamers are older and have responsibilities |
| 03:20.20 | Iriel | We're also older, with jobs and incomes to afford $800 VR headsets |
| 03:20.23 | Iriel | that cuts both ways |
| 03:20.25 | Amarande | as in, if you're gaming on a screen, you can always keep an eye on your kids/dog/stove/etc. whilst gaming |
| 03:20.36 | Amarande | if you're gaming on VR, you can't really pay any attention to the outside world whatever |
| 03:20.45 | Iriel | Also, if you think about it, VR is more suited to brief intense sessions rather than days-long binges |
| 03:20.59 | Trela | They had the Rift on Woot!? O_o o_O |
| 03:21.26 | Iriel | I'm sure the dog will find full room VR endlessly entertaining as he tries to trip me |
| 03:21.35 | Amarande | *lightbulb ping* ah, *now* I think I have a pretty good idea as to why facebook was so interested in the Rift |
| 03:21.49 | Amarande | brief intense sessions pretty much sums up facebook style gaming well, they probably want to integrate this into the platform |
| 03:22.36 | Amarande | Gamegamegame *five minutes later* "You are out of Energy. Would you like to refill it for (amount that would pay for a whole week's worth of WoW)?" |
| 03:23.34 | Iriel | I find that super annoying on mobile games |
| 03:24.07 | Amarande | heh, assuming they can even be called games, half the time |
| 03:24.15 | Amarande | like that Dungeon Keeper farce |
| 03:24.42 | Amarande | bad enough to shatter the rating floor, even |
| 03:25.30 | Iriel | yeah, i was glad I read about that before thinking about trying it |
| 03:25.44 | Amarande | usually pro reviewers barely ever give anything less than an 8 ... maybe if the game disc suddenly becomes possessed and pops out of the Xbox and flies across the room decapitating their dog and slicing off their wife's boobs before embedding itself in their neck, that might, *might* earn as low as a 7 |
| 03:25.46 | Iriel | I had much love for the original (I have the install disk still) |
| 03:25.52 | Amarande | ... Dungeon Keeper somehow got a 1 and a 0, LOL |
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| 03:26.17 | Iriel | I wish i'd done the same pre-reading for Sacred 3 - that was a massive suck. |
| 03:27.41 | Amarande | hmm, I can't remember the last time I bought a game I really couldn't stand |
| 03:27.49 | Amarande | I don't really buy that many games lately and most of the ones I buy are old ones from GoG |
| 03:28.21 | Amarande | hence why I have to wonder whether concerns about Oracle v Google possibly resulting in Wine getting crushed like a bug are actually valid or if Wine is somehow outside that whole kerfuffle |
| 03:28.45 | Amarande | (especially since Windows meanwhile has started to become less friendly towards older games ... e.g., Icewind Dale 2 is actually running better in Wine than it does under Win8.1) |
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| 04:45.17 | relaxok | ok i am looking at this lua_next crap with fresh eyes and its still messed up |
| 04:47.14 | relaxok | oh |
| 04:47.23 | relaxok | no i see what happened i think |
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| 04:54.24 | bluipodcow | Hmmm |
| 04:55.18 | bluipodcow | Anyone got a UI browser for the latest UI code extract ? |
| 04:59.57 | bluipodcow | I don't remember the trigger lol |
| 05:00.11 | bluipodcow | ~frame mal |
| 05:00.11 | purl | ACTION teleports mal into a large wooden frame, adds several props and weapons, then takes a holographic picture with a shiny new 3D-O-Matic Mark II |
| 05:00.27 | bluipodcow | ~framexml |
| 05:00.27 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
| 05:00.33 | bluipodcow | ...... |
| 05:00.37 | bluipodcow | Nvm |
| 05:06.25 | Primer | 'You have been disconnected. BLZ51900004 <-- same thing as yesterday |
| 05:07.04 | bluipodcow | U mad? |
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| 06:26.13 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 06:26.27 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 06:54.05 | bluipodcow | fondles Fisker |
| 06:54.12 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 06:54.26 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 06:56.37 | bluipodcow | Lol |
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| 09:08.54 | Fisker | offers Cairenn some cake |
| 09:09.37 | Cairenn | noms |
| 09:10.42 | Fisker | \o/ |
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| 12:42.04 | zenzelezz | y helo thar peppy |
| 12:51.38 | Fisker | tacklehugs Lopeppeppy |
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| 13:08.21 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Fiskerboo |
| 13:12.09 | zenzelezz | "Success! Your selected has been submitted!" - great message to put in red text above a "submit" button on a form (shows up after you click the submit button) |
| 13:12.18 | zenzelezz | "Whoa, what went wro... oh, neveermind" |
| 13:12.21 | zenzelezz | *nevermind |
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| 13:24.43 | karl_w_w | what's a single word that means "well thought-out" |
| 13:27.22 | karl_w_w | calculated I guess |
| 13:29.26 | zenzelezz | not sure that'd sound right in all contexts |
| 13:30.14 | karl_w_w | no |
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| 14:05.52 | nevcairiel | someone remind, classic T0.5 set, ie. Dungeon Set 2, was actually a quest, wasn't it? so the new transmog system would potentially actually unlock the visuals of those if you did them way back when? |
| 14:08.27 | zenzelezz | that was Valor/Devout-types ones, right? But introduced at some later point? |
| 14:08.36 | foxlit | nevcairiel: yes |
| 14:08.37 | zenzelezz | + "not" in the first question |
| 14:08.38 | End | there were a bunch of quests yeah |
| 14:09.01 | foxlit | and iirc they required you to hand in the dungeon set 1 items |
| 14:09.06 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: it was the successor of the devout/valor line of sets |
| 14:09.11 | foxlit | so if you nudge the right people, you might unlock both. |
| 14:09.26 | nevcairiel | that would be nice, but unlikely |
| 14:10.06 | nevcairiel | now i just need to find out that original T3 also was a quest, and i would be happy, but that seems rather unlikely =p |
| 14:10.25 | End | well...didn't T3 require multiple items? |
| 14:10.41 | foxlit | token-based, yeah. |
| 14:10.42 | zenzelezz | one token + some mats |
| 14:11.03 | End | so I think it did have quests to handle that, I think? |
| 14:11.14 | nevcairiel | wowhead doesnt have much information from way back when |
| 14:11.14 | foxlit | maybe not |
| 14:11.39 | foxlit | (as in, they had the quests, but they were probably repeatable, so no flags for you) |
| 14:11.48 | End | yeah that's probably the case |
| 14:12.23 | nevcairiel | i would be happy with t0 and t0.5 already, unobtainable looks are always nice |
| 14:12.24 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:12.34 | zenzelezz | only quest I remember specifically was the one for Ramaladni's Icy Grasp, or whatever the name was |
| 14:12.39 | foxlit | dmf sells replicas, nev. |
| 14:12.45 | nevcairiel | foxlit: repeatable no? but its wiki, so shrug |
| 14:12.53 | foxlit | and bah sells t3. |
| 14:13.15 | nevcairiel | i know, but getting full sets of either takes a fortune of shit to collect, or patience at playing the bah |
| 14:13.20 | End | bah just makes it improbable instead of impossible |
| 14:13.54 | nevcairiel | collecting large quantities of darkmoon tickets is really painful |
| 14:13.58 | nevcairiel | i dontk now how some do it |
| 14:14.21 | zenzelezz | I think Blizzard has a secret cooperation with booze dealers |
| 14:14.59 | Ressy | Drive us to drink? |
| 14:15.14 | zenzelezz | how else would you explain the Darkmoon Faire tickets? |
| 14:15.17 | End | I feel like they lowered the rate you can get tickets at some point, but I do darkmoon faire stuff so irregularly |
| 14:17.08 | nevcairiel | well with any luck t0.5 will unlock, and with some more luck t3 |
| 14:17.40 | foxlit | #unlockt0orriot |
| 14:17.41 | zenzelezz | T3 was always the set I desired most. Only got boots and belt, then BC hit |
| 14:17.45 | foxlit | #infactriotanyway #welikeriots? |
| 14:19.40 | Amarande | new transmog system? |
| 14:19.43 | Amarande | what did I miss? |
| 14:20.00 | Amarande | are they moving it to a Diablo 3 style system where you don't actually have to keep legs around to transmog them? |
| 14:20.36 | Amarande | End: yeah about the only reason I stop by the Darkmoon Faire on leveling characters is for the quests for free crafting skill points |
| 14:20.47 | Amarande | especially in cases where a +5 can make a real difference in convenience |
| 14:21.12 | Amarande | speaking of crafting skill points did they fix rich thorium veins yet? |
| 14:21.26 | zenzelezz | fix? |
| 14:22.01 | Amarande | zenzelezz: last time I played I leveled a character in mining and noticed that rich thorium veins 100% of the time failed to provide a skill up, even when I was in the skill point range to do so and the Requires Mining was orange |
| 14:22.55 | Amarande | less surely, I seem to also remember small thorium veins providing skill ups for significantly longer than they ought to have |
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| 15:21.22 | zenzelezz | that split did not seem to resolve well |
| 15:22.10 | foxlit | for a few minutes, you had a personal #wowuidev :P |
| 15:22.23 | zenzelezz | me and Random |
| 15:22.53 | zenzelezz | the obvious conclusion is the NSA split me off for linking something from Snowden |
| 15:23.13 | foxlit | and now we're all on the list. Thanks! |
| 15:23.26 | Lopeppeppy | I'll never be able to fly again. *sniff* |
| 15:26.14 | kullervo | joke's on you, I was already on all the lists |
| 15:27.06 | kullervo | who wants instructions for making nerve gas at home? |
| 15:27.29 | foxlit | kullervo: but are you on the list of people who are not on any lists? |
| 15:27.58 | kullervo | ah, the paradox list |
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| 15:32.15 | foxlit | "list of people on an even number of lists" is also fun. |
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| 15:33.47 | Amarande | foxlit: but doesn't that list cause people to no longer be on an even number of lists ... |
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| 15:37.17 | mckenziemc | stabs Amarande. |
| 15:37.48 | mckenziemc | and no, not necessarily |
| 15:38.19 | Amarande | mckenziemc: yeah, you have to list all the people who are currently on an ODD number of lists :) |
| 15:39.03 | Amarande | hmm, reminds me now, I wonder how hard it was for Munroe to create that one xkcd |
| 15:39.04 | Amarande | https://xkcd.com/688/ |
| 15:39.24 | karl_w_w | http://www.bafta.org/press/press-releases/john-carmack-to-be-honoured-with-bafta-fellowship |
| 15:39.32 | karl_w_w | top shelf choice |
| 15:44.54 | mckenziemc | Amarande: equations, or iteration |
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| 17:30.50 | zenzelezz | hm, Assassin's Creed Syndicate 50%... granted it's a weekend deal, that's still surprising not even half a year after release |
| 17:37.34 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 17:37.35 | Fisker | e |
| 17:37.35 | Fisker | y |
| 17:37.41 | kd3 | 'lo |
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| 17:51.25 | karl_w_w | it's assassin's creed zenzelezz, sure this paint job might be half a year old but most of the stuff inside has been around a lot longer |
| 17:54.04 | karl_w_w | https://forums.oculus.com/ literally worst forum design in history |
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| 17:55.33 | zenzelezz | I've seen worse |
| 17:55.36 | zenzelezz | but it's not awesome |
| 18:01.52 | pompy | http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/24/technology/tay-racist-microsoft oops |
| 18:02.41 | nevcairiel | thats what happens when you expose an AI to the scum that lives on twitter |
| 18:02.42 | kd3 | hilarious and awful at the same time |
| 18:03.06 | karl_w_w | rofl |
| 18:03.31 | Fisker | l Terminator movies are now unrealistic |
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| 18:04.20 | nevcairiel | actually it would totally explain why an AI wants to kill us all |
| 18:05.12 | Fisker | yeah but it takes more than 24 hours |
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| 19:52.26 | FireSiku | My video card died last night, graphical corruption everywhere. I could even see artifacts while I was on the UEFI BIOS and it kept crashing when it got to windows. |
| 19:53.04 | FireSiku | Found a really old 8400 GS card, and im afraid its too much of a toaster to even run WoW :( |
| 20:00.42 | mckenziemc | so your WoW career is toast? |
| 20:00.52 | kd3 | eh, I played for years on an 8600GT |
| 20:01.00 | kd3 | and before that on a FX5200 |
| 20:01.07 | kd3 | just turn everything down to low |
| 20:01.12 | mckenziemc | i played for years on dialup |
| 20:03.20 | kd3 | heh. there's something oddly satisfying about watch a hydraulic press destroy shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qipt0yUKt8 |
| 20:07.10 | mckenziemc | >.> |
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| 20:11.42 | FireSiku | Playing Hearthstone at 10fps right now D: |
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| 20:29.59 | foxlit | What's this? Hearthstone?! |
| 20:30.23 | foxlit | Should be playing notepad; much better fps there. |
| 20:43.35 | mckenziemc | minesweeps foxlit. |
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| 21:15.20 | Arrow|work | "We did replace the AP which was infested with ants, the tech has thoroughly sprayed it with bug spray and is sending it back inside a Ziploc bags. I think we should dispose of this without opening." |
| 21:15.34 | Arrow|work | coworkers notes from last night that im laughing over |
| 21:15.43 | kd3 | gack |
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| 22:29.32 | Fisker | rehugs Cairenn |
| 22:34.05 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 22:34.49 | Fisker | :) |
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