| 00:25.33 | nevcairiel | Simca_: they have test servers, its called america |
| 00:26.09 | Simca_ | lol |
| 00:26.23 | Simca_ | it does certainly seem that way sometimes lol |
| 00:27.14 | nevcairiel | dont think europe had much patch day failures for a while, all caught and fixed in the US first |
| 00:27.37 | nevcairiel | we get the fun for expansions then when we unlock hours earlier =p |
| 00:27.49 | kullervo | haha good one |
| 00:28.06 | kullervo | when was the last time you could play without issues during the first 48 hours |
| 00:29.00 | nevcairiel | perhaps not without issues entirely, but I managed to stay ahead of most big failures on launch |
| 00:29.23 | Simca_ | they actually have done a pretty good job on the last few expansion launches |
| 00:29.33 | nevcairiel | ie. if you managed to finish the required parts of garrison interaction at WoD launch before it crashed, it wasn't a "blocker" at least |
| 00:29.42 | foxlit | wod just blew up, really. |
| 00:29.43 | Simca_ | random minor patches like this are often much worse than expansion launches |
| 00:29.45 | Simca_ | ironically |
| 00:29.54 | foxlit | mop had that damn helicopter. |
| 00:30.01 | foxlit | cata was okayish? |
| 00:30.08 | Simca_ | yeah |
| 00:30.14 | nevcairiel | the helicopter was annoying, but afterwards it was fine |
| 00:30.44 | nevcairiel | WoD of course had garrisons, which didnt work for 2-3 days, but unless you were stuck in the first zone where you had to use it for quest progress, you could just avoid it |
| 00:30.55 | Simca_ | WoD probably would have been fine if it wasn't for them not anticipating the effects of everybody always being in an instance wrecking the instance servers |
| 00:31.03 | Simca_ | yeah |
| 00:31.08 | foxlit | well, it turns out if you block 95% of the playerbase on a mandatory quest, the zones that follow will be fine. |
| 00:31.15 | Simca_ | lol |
| 00:31.26 | nevcairiel | be in the 5% then! |
| 00:32.03 | nevcairiel | but yeah the garrison thing was a bit of a pain |
| 00:32.37 | foxlit | they also had issues with outdoor zones. |
| 00:32.39 | nevcairiel | are the new order halls instanced? the way I see it, at least those that are in normal areas could just be part of the open world |
| 00:32.50 | nevcairiel | just walled off |
| 00:33.15 | foxlit | would be awkward to see all those highlords of the silver hand running around. |
| 00:33.26 | Gnarfoz | seemed seamless when I played months back |
| 00:33.33 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't mean anything these days, though |
| 00:33.37 | nevcairiel | well garrisons feel mostly seamless these days |
| 00:34.06 | Gnarfoz | also, WoD had "Khadgar in one spot, outside of the area we used our fancy new reverse-CRZ tech for" :D |
| 00:34.14 | nevcairiel | but yeah, seamless transition is working fine these days, or do you notice that tanaan is actually a different instance when you enter? |
| 00:34.31 | Gnarfoz | and finally "whatever it is that completely broke regular world servers, probably just load" |
| 00:34.39 | Gnarfoz | 4000 queue for daayyyyys |
| 00:34.39 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:34.48 | nevcairiel | (there are a few spots on the beach where crab-creatures zone in and out because of transition bugs, but thats a minor thing) |
| 00:34.51 | Gnarfoz | maybe that last one is simply "hype" |
| 00:35.03 | nevcairiel | dont play on big-ass servers, obviously |
| 00:35.04 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 00:35.09 | Gnarfoz | yeah :| |
| 00:35.20 | nevcairiel | those will always queue up during launch, i would iamgine |
| 00:35.22 | nevcairiel | and lag |
| 00:35.36 | Gnarfoz | wasn't this bad in Cata or MoP |
| 00:35.37 | nevcairiel | had some friends from large servers group with me so they could crz over |
| 00:36.03 | nevcairiel | did wonders during the first week in wod |
| 00:37.06 | nevcairiel | but WoD also suffered from the massive influx of returning players, not sure if they really couldnt anticipate the actual number of players, or what else was going wrong |
| 00:38.00 | kd3 | they recounted that in the server talk at DMF. it's easy easy to spin up instances, but they had to traverse a linked list to shut them down |
| 00:38.17 | Gnarfoz | iirc they actually activated stand-by hardware AND expanded more after that |
| 00:39.14 | Gnarfoz | whee, Overwatch 1.0.3 |
| 00:40.00 | Gnarfoz | of course, no patch notes. lol :D |
| 00:40.22 | Gnarfoz | but a known issue list, heh |
| 00:40.50 | Gnarfoz | fancy new social UI |
| 00:43.47 | Gnarfoz | haha, Lucio's Space Frog skin is now "Ribbeat" |
| 00:45.09 | Gnarfoz | the hell, an option to take screenshots at 9x resolution :D |
| 00:46.50 | Gnarfoz | "weekly brawl" o_O |
| 00:46.58 | Gnarfoz | lool |
| 00:48.03 | nevcairiel | sounds like they stole the hearthstone concept |
| 00:49.22 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/RE9NkRH.png |
| 00:49.52 | nevcairiel | 12 players, 2 heroes? |
| 00:50.34 | Gnarfoz | apparently! :D |
| 00:50.44 | nevcairiel | such randomized fun game modes are a nice out of the box addition for sure |
| 00:50.48 | FireSiku | ..Trade Chat doesnt appear under EnumerateServerChannels() anymore? |
| 00:51.24 | Gnarfoz | that super-rez screenshot mode doesn't capture the UI, weird |
| 00:52.18 | Gnarfoz | lol, I was wondering why the game froze for a bit when taking one... 711 MiB :D |
| 00:52.44 | nevcairiel | how do they define 9x? pixel count or individual dimensions? |
| 00:52.57 | Gnarfoz | 17280 x 10800 |
| 00:53.13 | Gnarfoz | so probably 9x my actual game resolution |
| 00:53.16 | nevcairiel | so individual dimension |
| 00:53.21 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 00:53.21 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 00:53.24 | Gnarfoz | that's what you meant |
| 00:53.31 | Gnarfoz | vs. 9x area |
| 00:54.07 | nevcairiel | which makes the image itself actually 81 times bigger |
| 00:54.30 | nevcairiel | no wonder its a huge file :p |
| 00:54.50 | nevcairiel | wonder whats that supposed to be good for :D |
| 00:56.08 | Gnarfoz | no idea :D |
| 00:56.11 | Gnarfoz | photos! |
| 01:03.32 | Stanzilla | they fixed a bug I reported |
| 01:03.33 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 01:04.45 | Gnarfoz | nice, Stanzilla |
| 01:04.54 | Gnarfoz | also, text now has an outline, finally |
| 01:05.05 | Gnarfoz | oh, the player-rating UI is gone |
| 01:05.13 | Gnarfoz | (not the post-game commendations) |
| 01:06.06 | Gnarfoz | woah, and a "highlight reel" feature |
| 01:06.27 | Gnarfoz | so they do save all replays and all individual PotGs, even if you don't end up getting it |
| 01:08.30 | Primer | still can't connect |
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| 01:16.44 | Simca_ | they're in the process of deploying a new live build according to this email spam of them changing things on their cdn |
| 01:19.10 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: intention must be "photos" or something: the huge pics are also BMPs |
| 01:21.00 | Gnarfoz | woah, new map, too |
| 01:27.13 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: http://i.imgur.com/WOYmHYu.jpg :P |
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| 01:37.04 | Stanzilla | leaves and trees in blizzard games |
| 01:37.07 | Stanzilla | cringelevel3000 |
| 01:37.27 | Gnarfoz | Players will now receive an EXP bonus for playing multiple matches in succession |
| 01:37.29 | Gnarfoz | awww shit. |
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| 03:01.05 | pompy | http://www.ulalaunch.com/nasa.aspx 5 mins till launch |
| 03:02.58 | Simca_ | "If you are viewing on a Mac, we recommend using Chrome or Firefox. |
| 03:02.58 | Simca_ | " this reads as "sorry but safari is shit" |
| 03:05.29 | pompy | lol |
| 03:10.20 | pompy | Smooth |
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| 03:28.34 | Simca_ | here comes 6.2.4 build #3 |
| 03:29.21 | Simca_ | they started today with 21336, then deployed 21343 to EU, now they're redeploying to US and EU with 21345 |
| 03:29.38 | Simca_ | i think that is the most builds live wow has ever gotten in one day |
| 03:35.53 | Stanzilla | 45 not for EU yet |
| 03:36.03 | Stanzilla | random stuff is random |
| 03:36.26 | Simca_ | it is for nobody yet because they did it wrong. have to wait a few minutes for them to do it right |
| 03:36.33 | Simca_ | happens every time |
| 03:36.40 | Stanzilla | as always yeah |
| 03:37.52 | Simca_ | overwatch team does it right; i kind of wonder if they have some sort of relationship with bnet team |
| 03:39.30 | Stanzilla | maybe updated deploy tools |
| 03:39.36 | Simca_ | especially because voice chat for bnet so quickly after voice chat for overwatch using same system |
| 03:40.15 | Simca_ | also the encryption part of CASC was unused by everyone except overwatch team, like it was built for them |
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| 03:41.10 | Simca_ | maybe they just make the most demands though, idk |
| 03:41.30 | Stanzilla | i have still hope that they're fixing casc so it cleans up after itself |
| 03:41.48 | Stanzilla | now for 45 EU |
| 04:00.34 | Iriel | Simca_: my guess is the OW team had no legacy code to deal with |
| 04:10.11 | Fisker | So Cairenn |
| 04:10.18 | Cairenn | Yes Fisker? |
| 04:10.22 | Fisker | It's happening |
| 04:10.24 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 04:10.28 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 04:25.32 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/1AGwoGh.png |
| 04:25.33 | Mr_Rabies | wat |
| 04:28.42 | airtonix | it's simple Mr_Rabies. you need to remove a github ceo. |
| 04:31.01 | Mr_Rabies | believe me, i'd love to |
| 04:31.11 | Mr_Rabies | but that's not legal :( |
| 04:34.06 | Mr_Rabies | (assuming you mean the current one) |
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| 05:06.58 | kullervo | Mr_Rabies: with enough money, anything's legal |
| 05:09.05 | mckenziemc | divides kullervo by 0. |
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| 06:57.58 | Torhal | divides mckenziemc by fear and doubt. |
| 06:59.17 | karl_w_w | nice |
| 06:59.28 | karl_w_w | looks like my steam got hacked |
| 06:59.34 | FireSiku | RIP |
| 06:59.48 | karl_w_w | so much for the mobile steam guard thing being bulletproof |
| 06:59.53 | FireSiku | It's alright, you can jsut contact Steam Support and it'll be over in no time. |
| 07:02.39 | karl_w_w | looks like somebody managed to change my password and nothing else |
| 07:21.02 | nebula | i have my phone start spamming notifications with the steamguard code before, but not had someone actually get past it |
| 07:21.19 | nebula | i've had* |
| 07:23.19 | Mr_Rabies | didn't get anything weird from you karl_w_w |
| 07:23.24 | Mr_Rabies | no messages or anything |
| 07:23.48 | karl_w_w | that's what you think! |
| 07:25.19 | Simca_ | yeah i got a support email from steam once like |
| 07:25.29 | Mr_Rabies | well that was interesting |
| 07:25.32 | Mr_Rabies | i was in lfr |
| 07:25.37 | Mr_Rabies | and the instance was like |
| 07:25.42 | Simca_ | 'your account was just accessed from Beijing, China, is this you?" |
| 07:25.48 | Mr_Rabies | stuck on every phase at once |
| 07:25.56 | Simca_ | and I was like... uh, probably time to change my password |
| 07:26.14 | Mr_Rabies | i couldn't target the second boss, or loot the first boss |
| 07:26.23 | Mr_Rabies | (or loot the second boss, for that matter) |
| 07:26.36 | Mr_Rabies | then i ran into a gate that should be down |
| 07:26.38 | Mr_Rabies | and got dced |
| 07:26.59 | Mr_Rabies | oh, and now my realm is down |
| 07:27.00 | Mr_Rabies | neato |
| 07:31.55 | Simca_ | yeah setec9 made a tweet about how everything went well today |
| 07:32.03 | Simca_ | and I wanted to break it to him how terrible it is been |
| 07:32.11 | Simca_ | but I actually like setec9 a lot, so I said nothing |
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| 08:11.20 | Mr_Rabies | well... my realm has been mysteriously down for about 30 minutes now |
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| 08:45.48 | nevcairiel | the in-game calendar switched to weeks starting with sunday <.< |
| 08:45.55 | nevcairiel | i want my monday back! |
| 08:46.50 | Gnarfoz | you mean, your 13� |
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| 08:47.22 | nevcairiel | who said anything about money |
| 08:48.52 | nevcairiel | is there an option to switch the calendars first day of the week or something? |
| 08:49.04 | Gnarfoz | money ~ monday |
| 08:49.12 | Gnarfoz | (with a bit of accent) |
| 08:50.58 | nevcairiel | apparently CALENDAR_FIRST_WEEKDAY controls that, but can i control that variable? |
| 08:53.03 | Gnarfoz | there is no try, only SetCVar() |
| 08:53.53 | nevcairiel | its not a cvar, its defined in Constants.lua |
| 08:54.02 | nevcairiel | presumably my game changed to enUS? |
| 08:59.46 | Semlar | it looks like it's set in blizzard_calendar/localization.lua |
| 09:00.39 | nevcairiel | that file is empty for me |
| 09:00.49 | Semlar | yeah but it's set based on the locale of the game |
| 09:01.04 | nevcairiel | Constants.lua has the relevant constant for me |
| 09:01.26 | Semlar | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/21265/Blizzard_Calendar/Localization.lua/MX |
| 09:01.52 | nevcairiel | it only has a MX variant though |
| 09:02.11 | Semlar | enGB has it as 2 |
| 09:03.58 | Semlar | i don't know where you set the localization for the game though |
| 09:04.08 | nevcairiel | you can't |
| 09:04.13 | nevcairiel | you just set english |
| 09:04.17 | nevcairiel | and hope it does the right thing |
| 09:04.41 | Semlar | what about if you change the bnet language in the launcher, it has one for UK |
| 09:04.49 | nevcairiel | i have that |
| 09:04.50 | Semlar | i don't know if that has any impact on the game though |
| 09:05.01 | Semlar | well how'd you break it |
| 09:05.08 | nevcairiel | i updated to 6.2.4 =p |
| 09:06.00 | Semlar | this is what happens when you update things |
| 09:06.49 | Semlar | alright what does GetLocale() give you in-game |
| 09:07.02 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 09:07.26 | nevcairiel | i'm trying to run repair on it now first, maybe it switches itself back to engb |
| 09:08.00 | nevcairiel | or its confused because i recently acquired a enUS starter edition account and this is the first time it had to patch while it existed |
| 09:09.07 | nevcairiel | i should just try overriding that variable in my tiny helper addon |
| 09:09.33 | Semlar | there's an "installLocale" cvar in my config.wtf file |
| 09:09.48 | Semlar | SET installLocale "enUS" |
| 09:11.21 | nevcairiel | says enUS for me, but i dont know if it ever said anything else :D |
| 09:11.25 | nevcairiel | checks backup |
| 09:13.41 | FireSiku | I thought that Blizzard always ignored enGB and always used enUS, even for UK accounts. |
| 09:14.18 | Semlar | they have separate localization |
| 09:14.35 | nevcairiel | was enUS before today as well |
| 09:16.11 | Semlar | well now you have to embrace your american citizenship |
| 09:16.26 | Semlar | this is your life now |
| 09:20.29 | nevcairiel | is there a toc load condition to load before another addon? |
| 09:30.44 | nevcairiel | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17610952066 |
| 09:30.48 | nevcairiel | seems like they fubared it |
| 09:32.39 | Fisker | https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=769 <-this is the best thing ever |
| 09:33.31 | Simca_ | WOW-21348patch6.2.4_Retail lel |
| 09:33.40 | Simca_ | four builds in one day Stanzilla on Live |
| 09:33.52 | nevcairiel | maybe they fix the EU locale then! |
| 09:41.51 | Semlar | no, you english now |
| 09:42.11 | nevcairiel | i want to be english, i just dont want to be american :p |
| 09:44.27 | nevcairiel | time to go buy some late breakfast |
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| 10:02.39 | karl_w_w | https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/4bd31n/oculus_software_and_vr_applications_must_be/d18god6?context=6 |
| 10:02.40 | karl_w_w | heh |
| 10:24.47 | Gnarfoz | Let's hardcode paths. |
| 10:40.59 | nevcairiel | you would be surprised how many applications have such weird limitations |
| 10:43.12 | VIad | hardcode paths :p |
| 10:44.34 | nevcairiel | 21348 seems to have fixed the EU locale issue for me |
| 10:51.06 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I really wouldn't be surprised, after over two decades of computing :D |
| 10:51.25 | Gnarfoz | way too much software is barely-working crap :shipit: |
| 10:56.44 | nevcairiel | well apparently redditers are still surprised |
| 10:56.49 | nevcairiel | but then, redditers |
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| 11:05.01 | nebula | reddit, talks shit to devs all the time, starts crying when gets shit talked back at them |
| 11:05.38 | nebula | rather s/reddit/the internet/ |
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| 12:20.30 | karl_w_w | so |
| 12:20.33 | karl_w_w | sew |
| 12:53.04 | VIad | #nobetayet |
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| 13:39.36 | Ressy | Lots of patches being pushed today. |
| 13:40.10 | nevcairiel | only about 4 |
| 13:40.14 | Ressy | lol |
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| 19:04.41 | kd3 | it'd be nice if the toc actually would change when there are interface changes... |
| 19:05.30 | relaxok | =D |
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| 19:37.35 | foxlit | kd3: more pointless than it sounds. |
| 19:38.06 | Simca_ | i think you possibly overestimate the average user, foxlit |
| 19:40.04 | foxlit | doubtful. |
| 19:42.34 | foxlit | the average user response to that would just be annoyance -- "why you break all my addons even though nothing changed!" |
| 19:44.41 | Simca_ | there are no paint chips involved in that scenario so i think it's a definite overestimate |
| 19:52.24 | kullervo | fuuuck this new patch breaks using multiple accounts at the same time |
| 19:52.44 | kullervo | I have some ideas but won't be home for several hours |
| 19:53.29 | kd3 | hm, I was wondering why multiboxing threads were getting necroed today |
| 19:54.17 | kullervo | the whole bnet uses the same folder now |
| 19:55.40 | Simca_ | bnet app has like a million commandline args |
| 19:56.02 | Simca_ | worst case scenario you make a batch file to alter the bnet app's config files to change the install path |
| 19:56.35 | Simca_ | shouldn't be too bad |
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| 20:56.03 | VIad | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 20:56.18 | VIad | Simca_: do we got any docs on the cmd line args for bnet? |
| 20:56.48 | Simca_ | super doubtful |
| 20:57.32 | Simca_ | i use a combination of google, wow tech support forums, and process explorer on battle.net.exe (args are at the top of strings usually) |
| 20:58.48 | VIad | process hacker and explorer have a way to fetch strings from the executable |
| 20:58.56 | VIad | just need to go through it :p |
| 21:02.29 | VIad | Simca_: https://github.com/erocarrera/pefile hmm |
| 21:04.11 | VIad | I am sure tom_rus has some data on the subject :p |
| 21:04.22 | Simca_ | i just use strings.exe, a microsoft tool |
| 21:04.27 | VIad | need to dive into the binaries and try to figure out it manually |
| 21:04.41 | Simca_ | you can use notepad even if you are boring |
| 21:04.46 | VIad | :p |
| 21:08.08 | VIad | I found these when scanning Battle.net.exe http://pastebin.com/raw/bKuUsiwr |
| 21:08.14 | VIad | Simca_: if you want to test them out |
| 21:09.12 | Simca_ | yeah that's some of them |
| 21:09.22 | Simca_ | there's also --game, --install, and others |
| 21:09.53 | VIad | found these on the Agent.exe http://pastebin.com/raw/F2jPKSqL |
| 21:10.02 | VIad | I searched for >10 chars so didnt catch them :< |
| 21:10.06 | VIad | will try later, playing dota atm :D |
| 21:10.51 | Simca_ | yeah do like 4 char minimum but restrict to starting with '--' |
| 21:12.32 | nevcairiel | the -- doesnt necessarily have to be part of the string |
| 21:12.52 | nevcairiel | it could parse -- first and then split off the argument later |
| 21:14.40 | Simca_ | yeah that's true |
| 21:14.44 | Simca_ | thankfully they don't do that |
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| 21:34.14 | VIad | hmm, isnt the update and install without "--" ? |
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| 21:51.35 | Simca_ | possible? |
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| 22:28.41 | kullervo | okay so suggestions for dealing with this |
| 22:29.42 | Mr_Rabies | try this, kullervo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2TEkLZDElQ |
| 22:30.04 | kullervo | I thought of just symlinking the data folders and basically having two wow installations |
| 22:38.20 | kullervo | since I didn't see a variable to force a custom wtf folder |
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| 23:36.24 | airtonix | https://github.com/unixorn/awesome-zsh-plugins |
| 23:36.29 | foxlit | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8J0j0nTi-g << the BGM makes me think the entire instance takes place in an elevator. |
| 23:36.54 | airtonix | ffs, i'm pretty sure i pasted that in a different channel |
| 23:40.05 | Mr_Rabies | that sure is some muzak foxlit |
| 23:56.40 | g0urra | Gnarfoz: I was just kicked because I was inactive |
| 23:56.44 | g0urra | in the pre-game room ._. |
| 23:56.46 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 23:56.50 | Gnarfoz | happened to me earlier, too |
| 23:56.57 | Gnarfoz | timer is so short it doesn't even cover the warmup |
