| 00:06.59 | pompy1 | their wiki already vandalized by someone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotaku |
| 00:09.15 | zenzelezz | https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kotaku&action=history |
| 00:09.19 | zenzelezz | more than just someone |
| 00:10.04 | pompy1 | oh jeez |
| 00:10.25 | pompy1 | the hulk hogan pic was there when i linked it.. not that other shit |
| 00:13.23 | pompy1 | zenzelezz: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35894760/dfgdfgcfgvnbfgnhgfh.jpg was that before it got worse |
| 00:19.31 | Trela | What happened today? |
| 00:20.37 | pompy1 | Trela: scroll up a tad |
| 00:20.56 | Trela | I found it on KotakuInAction. |
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| 02:06.33 | FireSiku | Casually check what happens in this channel, see mentions of KiA. Well, this wasn't a place where I expected to see that. |
| 02:09.05 | FireSiku | But damn, that gawker trial was hilarious. Glad its over now. |
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| 08:28.18 | Mr_Rabies | i uh |
| 08:28.20 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/WkJxOVF.png |
| 08:28.22 | Mr_Rabies | i'll take it |
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| 09:46.46 | FireSiku | TIL a friend of mine is still running WinXP |
| 09:51.18 | nevcairiel | you should feel bad now |
| 09:51.38 | FireSiku | I am :( |
| 09:51.53 | FireSiku | I'm might get my hands on some digitalized fossils though |
| 09:52.37 | FireSiku | Anyway, night all. |
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| 14:30.31 | pompy1 | http://imgur.com/zu03v5V |
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| 15:39.30 | VIad | I heard a rumor for addon author invites in easter |
| 15:40.01 | VIad | easter being next week |
| 15:43.09 | Phatso | well sign me up |
| 15:43.15 | Phatso | its me your brother |
| 15:43.15 | Phatso | :D |
| 15:43.26 | VIad | :D |
| 15:43.52 | Phatso | i wish i could bring blizz to allow me default template editing |
| 15:44.02 | Phatso | i dont want to do the hacky shit |
| 15:44.49 | nevcairiel | they wont, and tough luck =p |
| 15:45.14 | Phatso | i wonder how many lines of code is wasted in addons only because they have to list all Frames that inherit from the Template they want to change |
| 15:46.49 | Phatso | i counted default ElvUI for like 4 Modules and it was already 50+ just for applying their skin onto all possible versions of GameTooltipTemplate |
| 15:47.33 | Phatso | i really dont want to start my first actual addon project with naughty shit like that |
| 15:47.48 | nebula | then don't do stupid skinning shit |
| 15:51.01 | VIad | ~report nebula |
| 15:51.24 | VIad | nevcairiel: inside source about the addon invite wave? :p |
| 15:51.58 | nevcairiel | you dont have no inside sources |
| 15:52.29 | Phatso | so what you're saying is he has inside sources |
| 15:52.40 | Phatso | double negation #confirmerinod |
| 15:53.41 | nevcairiel | the only rumor i heard is that next week is supposedly a bigger alpha patch, and that they did originally plan to switch to beta in march, but plans can change and all that |
| 15:54.45 | Phatso | nevcairiel alot of that can be backed with the progress of files in the builds |
| 15:55.30 | VIad | you meant april probably, its middle of match atm :p |
| 15:55.34 | Phatso | so i say with the authority of none that that is a very accurate rumor |
| 15:55.35 | VIad | march* |
| 15:55.43 | Phatso | ^^ |
| 15:55.47 | nevcairiel | VIad: but its not over, so duh? |
| 15:56.19 | VIad | figured its more common to use "later this month" instead by name, thus assumed typo |
| 15:56.21 | nevcairiel | also see: plans can change :p |
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| 15:56.33 | nevcairiel | that particular rumor is slightly older |
| 15:56.40 | VIad | fear not, Iriel is here to ban me |
| 15:56.50 | nevcairiel | thats ok, he has my permission |
| 15:57.08 | Iriel | !? |
| 15:57.27 | Phatso | i assume they add 2 or 3 new Dungeons next week to get ahead with their advertisement, azsuna and the other classes |
| 15:57.31 | Phatso | specs* |
| 15:57.58 | nevcairiel | there is only one more dungeon that was rumored/announced to exist, and not in the beta yet |
| 15:58.01 | nevcairiel | then we have all 10 |
| 15:58.11 | Phatso | wait |
| 15:58.16 | Phatso | we are at 10 already? |
| 15:58.21 | nevcairiel | 9 live in alpha today |
| 15:58.32 | nevcairiel | presumably one is still missing |
| 15:58.41 | Phatso | i thought we were at 7... |
| 15:58.44 | Phatso | hmm |
| 15:59.03 | nevcairiel | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19993881/legion-alpha-test-information-10-03-2016 |
| 15:59.08 | nevcairiel | use the handy chart! |
| 15:59.09 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:59.25 | Phatso | but that would be to easy |
| 15:59.58 | Phatso | are there rumors for the last one? |
| 16:00.33 | Phatso | btw has anyone tested the brewmaster artifact animations yet ? |
| 16:01.08 | nevcairiel | brewmaster isnt out yet |
| 16:01.29 | Phatso | well yeah but the model is out isnt it? |
| 16:04.28 | Phatso | btw did anything interesting happen with that PTR build? |
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| 16:07.11 | Phatso | theres no way to derive all Frames that inherited the Templates right? |
| 16:07.38 | Phatso | runtime of course |
| 16:07.44 | foxlit | Right. |
| 16:08.52 | Phatso | well |
| 16:08.56 | Phatso | thats aids |
| 16:09.04 | foxlit | Duh. |
| 16:09.55 | foxlit | One does not simply have an original idea for an addon 12 years after a game's release. |
| 16:11.47 | Phatso | i should just hack LibStub's authors' accounts and add a function that if not used everytime you derive a new Template you add it to a list you get fucked in the butt |
| 16:12.29 | Phatso | bend to my will |
| 16:13.31 | Phatso | obviously you didnt give me the correct answer foxlit |
| 16:13.51 | Phatso | not doing Code until answered to my expectations :D |
| 16:14.43 | foxlit | then you are never Doing Code. |
| 16:15.31 | foxlit | (I also did not notice a question) |
| 16:16.00 | Phatso | is that blizzard UI guy not around? |
| 16:16.13 | Phatso | there used to be a guy in here :D |
| 16:16.31 | Phatso | btw where are people seeing that 6.2.4 announcement? |
| 16:22.01 | Iriel | Phatso: depending on how distinctive a template is one could do a pretty good runtime guess as long as the frames are enumerable. |
| 16:23.48 | Maldivia | which 6.2.4 announcement? |
| 16:24.23 | Phatso | people are saying blizz announced 6.2.4 release somewhere but im not seeing it |
| 16:24.29 | Maldivia | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20742904870?page=1#1 |
| 16:28.23 | Maldivia | hmm, too early for the voice chat they've been fiddling with in the BNA |
| 16:37.15 | Simca | <nevcairiel> also see: plans can change :p |
| 16:37.17 | Simca | very true |
| 16:38.00 | Simca | for WoD they pushed back the beta launch date internally like 4 times |
| 16:38.14 | Maldivia | I remember |
| 16:40.01 | Simca | <Phatso> is that blizzard UI guy not around? |
| 16:40.07 | Simca | he lurks and sometimes answers reasonable questions |
| 16:40.14 | Phatso | shots |
| 16:40.15 | Simca | your question is not reasonable so i would not get your hopes up |
| 16:43.15 | VIad | he obviously listened like two years ago when I heavily whined about nameplates not having their unit ids and now, tada :d |
| 16:45.08 | Simca | frames at framelevels > 140ish can still randomly lose their place, 4(?) years after the bug was introduced |
| 16:55.50 | pompy1 | znf: https://www.facebook.com/snoopdogg/photos/a.137458029806.111105.11455644806/10153708611289807/?type=3 lol |
| 16:57.56 | pompy1 | https://www.facebook.com/visitbogata/photos/a.1755876781310306.1073741826.1755576881340296/1757862037778447/?type=3 |
| 17:06.59 | foxlit | Simca: really, it's neither random nor losing their place, but that system does have problems. |
| 17:09.15 | Simca | clearly it's blizzard's method to punish people running too many addons |
| 17:09.15 | foxlit | bad addon authors, no banana. |
| 17:10.11 | foxlit | (the fix for this is to remove addons doing silly things with SetFrameLevel.) |
| 17:10.40 | Simca | ah, one addon doing that can manage to fuck things up for other addons? |
| 17:11.14 | foxlit | Yes. |
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| 17:37.19 | karl_w_w | Amazon prime http://i.4cdn.org/b/1458401974263.webm |
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| 18:34.35 | VIad | ^ my parcel is on the way, yay! |
| 18:45.44 | Maldivia | "Fragile" |
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| 19:21.34 | nevcairiel | foxlit: do you have 6.2.4 on your framexml thing? |
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| 20:23.49 | foxlit | nevcairiel: no, I have problems with multiple heads. |
| 20:24.34 | nevcairiel | guess you'll need to rebase the beta diffs when 6.2.4 is released then, huh |
| 20:24.40 | nevcairiel | or just ignore it entirely |
| 20:24.41 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 20:25.50 | foxlit | yeah, I'll have to intervene when live updates; at the moment, it's just happily appending beta builds on its own |
| 20:26.16 | nevcairiel | (live is next week) |
| 20:26.39 | foxlit | is what's on the PTR a release build? |
| 20:26.52 | Phatso | we dont know |
| 20:26.56 | Phatso | its not tagged release |
| 20:27.03 | foxlit | then it's not a release build. |
| 20:27.09 | nevcairiel | actually it is |
| 20:27.16 | Alram | yeah it is i think |
| 20:27.19 | nevcairiel | 6.2.4 (21315) (Release x64) |
| 20:27.22 | foxlit | then I shouldn't listen to certain people. |
| 20:27.30 | Alram | Phatso is never a good source for anything foxlit |
| 20:27.48 | Phatso | that was release 2 Builds ago |
| 20:28.28 | nevcairiel | it usually is |
| 20:30.11 | foxlit | do targets = {targets[3]} end -- TODO |
| 20:30.55 | Phatso | thats why i said its not tagged. |
| 20:31.25 | nevcairiel | as if their code is ever free of TODOs or other funny remarks |
| 20:31.35 | foxlit | (it's my code) |
| 20:31.52 | Phatso | you cant really say its marked release when you know the last few builds that definitely were no release builds were also tagged release |
| 20:32.07 | nevcairiel | you dont seem to grasp the concept, sorry |
| 20:32.17 | nevcairiel | if its tagged release, then its tagged release |
| 20:32.25 | nevcairiel | that doesnt mean its the final build going to live |
| 20:32.28 | Phatso | yeah i know |
| 20:32.30 | foxlit | it doesn't mean that it'll be what goes live, but that's not what I asked. |
| 20:32.37 | fewyn | oh god this week was crazy |
| 20:32.42 | fewyn | i'm so glad to be home |
| 20:32.47 | Phatso | but thats at the end of the day the question you were asking right? |
| 20:32.51 | foxlit | no. |
| 20:33.22 | nevcairiel | he wouldnt ask that question, because he knows that there is no definitife answer |
| 20:33.28 | nevcairiel | definitive* |
| 20:33.59 | Phatso | well a definite answer would be if the build on the CDN is reuploaded with the Retail Tag |
| 20:34.09 | Phatso | and that question i answered with no |
| 20:34.50 | Alram | Phatso pls just stop |
| 20:35.54 | Phatso | that was the behavior of the last 6/7 patches |
| 20:36.05 | Phatso | bless me with teh knowledge alram |
| 20:36.42 | Alram | there is no knowledge to bless you with |
| 20:37.27 | relaxok | are there a lot of db2s that have a column other than column 0 as the ID? |
| 20:37.32 | Alram | in the most basic explanation, if a build has release in the name on the login screen it is marked as release |
| 20:37.41 | relaxok | i really dont want to support that right now |
| 20:38.12 | relaxok | i should say, a column other than column 0 (1st column) or the separate IDs structure |
| 20:38.44 | relaxok | oops wrong channel |
| 20:38.49 | relaxok | damn you Alram and Phatso |
| 20:38.56 | foxlit | nevcairiel: https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/6.2.4 |
| 20:38.57 | relaxok | confusing me again |
| 20:39.01 | Alram | no damn you for not reading the channel name relaxok :> |
| 20:39.17 | Phatso | yeah i thought you were confuzzled |
| 20:39.24 | foxlit | (I'm lying about the build number, but everything else should be fine) |
| 20:39.33 | nevcairiel | foxlit: neat, thanks |
| 20:40.38 | Phatso | 6.2.4.21315 no Changes in that one? |
| 20:43.37 | nebula | he did say he was lying about the build number |
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| 20:51.25 | foxlit | The files are from 21315; I just need a lower-than-beta build number to bypass silly design issues. |
| 20:53.16 | Phatso | (ohh) |
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| 22:03.10 | Junksterr | Hello! How do I add the ability to Ctrl Left Click an item to show the item on the character in the dressing room just like the default ui? |
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| 22:45.23 | Simca | if he comes back, somebody should tell him to add an onclick handler, check that button == 'LeftButton' and IsModifiedClick("DRESSUP"), then pass the item link to DressUpModel:TryOn() |
| 22:46.05 | Simca | that should perfectly mirror default UI ctrl+left click functionality on anything (as long as you have a way to get the item link you need) |
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| 22:57.29 | zenzelezz | whoever started the current trend of "You won't believe what happened next"/"You won't believe what X does"/"..." clickbait links that have been going on strongly for 2+ years should be forced to watch The Bold and the Beautiful for the rest of his days |
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| 23:18.37 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: well, how else will we know what will happen with the Forresters, and thier business ! |
| 23:19.19 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: the business has never been the same since Stephanie died |
| 23:19.25 | zenzelezz | I'm going to hope you googled that |
| 23:20.43 | zenzelezz | I do believe I have missed out on a couple of interesting news stories over the years, but I refuse to click clickbait-titled articles no matter what |
| 23:21.12 | Maldivia | but then you won't believe what happend! |
| 23:21.19 | zenzelezz | :-p |
| 23:21.54 | zenzelezz | I made a Facebook post in that form to be sarcastic... the first two people to comment? My mom and aunt, only to say they didn't understand what clickbait was.. |
| 23:25.10 | Maldivia | I'm actually more annoyed with the news sites that fade out the article and add a "click here to continue reading" |
| 23:25.23 | zenzelezz | I will concede to that |
| 23:25.51 | zenzelezz | usually here they add an icon to the article's picture to show that it's that kind, but they make it as un-noticable as possible |
| 23:25.58 | Maldivia | I assume it's for analytics purpose or something... but hey, they could gather that info from scrolling |
| 23:26.08 | zenzelezz | I made a Greasemonkey script that puts a big huge black <div> over them |
| 23:26.42 | zenzelezz | often enough 2/3 of the articles are such ones |
| 23:27.46 | Maldivia | there are also site that does full page flash overlays... WTF is up with that shit... |
| 23:27.58 | zenzelezz | I call those Ctrl+W |
| 23:28.33 | Maldivia | well, I have flash disabled by default, so don't see it, but can't interact with the page, because the invisible flash overlay catches it |
| 23:30.42 | zenzelezz | that moment when you realize you didn't eat since breakfast... explains why the Morgan was more potent than usually |
| 23:31.54 | Maldivia | I haven't eaten since dinner! |
| 23:32.26 | zenzelezz | when was dinner? |
| 23:32.32 | Maldivia | 5 hours ago :D |
| 23:32.54 | zenzelezz | admittedly breakfast was only 10 hours ago |
| 23:32.56 | zenzelezz | but still |
| 23:49.09 | foxlit | I should probably use etags :/ |
| 23:50.10 | zenzelezz | that was much more amusing when I read it as "stags" |
| 23:50.12 | zenzelezz | but how come? |
| 23:52.02 | foxlit | last modified time is being a little inconvinient, since I only have easy access to it for underlying data, and not the code used to generate cached output. |
| 23:52.36 | zenzelezz | sounds reasonable |
| 23:52.44 | foxlit | "did anything change since X?" *looks at data* "No." |
| 23:53.45 | zenzelezz | I wonder how common etags usage is |
| 23:53.50 | zenzelezz | the idea is good |
| 23:53.58 | Maldivia | very common |
| 23:59.25 | Semlar | tags foxlit and releases him back into the wild |
