| 00:06.51 | Trela | foxlit: We are aware of the side bar bug. It is a result of a fix that we made for another issue. So the fix fix is being tested right now. >_> <_< |
| 00:07.39 | Trela | If you refresh it should go back to normal. |
| 00:09.26 | foxlit | Yeah, I've refreshed it while wondering what happened; it only has a problem if an initially narrow window is widened. |
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| 07:48.47 | FireSiku | Question. Sometimes when writing code, I get errors line "Line 246: Unexpected symbol near '?' " and I see nothing wrong with it, but deleting the line and re-writing it exactly the same fixes it. |
| 07:50.26 | FireSiku | The only thing i can think that would be an issue would be those invisible alt-codes but I dont think I can accidentally an altcode in the middle of typing. |
| 07:58.12 | Trela | Windows or OS X? |
| 07:58.16 | FireSiku | Switching Encoding to ANSI made some weird accented A character appear, deleting them didnt fix the issue and caused "xAO" to show up when I switched the encoding the UTF-8. |
| 07:58.16 | Torhal | FireSiku: What are you editing with? |
| 07:58.18 | FireSiku | Windows 10. |
| 07:58.22 | FireSiku | Notepad+ |
| 07:58.26 | FireSiku | ++ |
| 07:58.40 | Torhal | No idea, then. |
| 07:58.46 | Trela | Copying code examples from web pages? |
| 07:58.55 | FireSiku | Nope, writing it myself |
| 07:59.17 | Trela | Odd. |
| 07:59.35 | FireSiku | Issue generally always appear around either opening or closing bracets of tables. |
| 08:00.14 | FireSiku | Deleting the "xAO" that appears makes WoW stop bitching, but I still wonder how that ended up there in the first place. |
| 08:00.39 | FireSiku | ... xA0 actually, if that makes a difference. |
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| 08:09.38 | Torhal | FireSiku: You should generally be using UTF-8. No idea what's going on with your editor, though. |
| 08:09.53 | Torhal | O personally use the InterlliJ IDEA with sylvanaar's Lua plugin. |
| 08:10.02 | Torhal | s/O p/I p/ |
| 08:11.43 | FireSiku | Sigh, found the problem I guess. RightAlt+Space causes a no-break space instead of a regular one. Which I accidentally hit when i make tables due to the brackets being RAlt+7 and RAlt+8 |
| 08:12.25 | Torhal | Sounds about right. |
| 08:12.32 | Torhal | Non-US layout, I assume? |
| 08:12.40 | FireSiku | Canadian Multilangual |
| 08:13.33 | Torhal | Ah, figured it wasn't US - I've never heard of a no-break space nor have any clue how to make one. |
| 08:13.45 | FireSiku | Traditionally, Alt+160 |
| 08:14.45 | Primer | OMG WTF The art browser feature has been removed |
| 08:15.11 | Primer | on wowprogramming...unless that google result is stale |
| 08:15.28 | kd3|hate`net | nah, they pulled the framexml and art browsers |
| 08:15.49 | Primer | Do you know why? |
| 08:16.07 | FireSiku | Torhal: The no-break space is also a requirement to Triforce. Anyway, I need to find a way to make N++ ignore that input. |
| 08:16.13 | kd3 | " It is difficult to maintain and unfortunately has contained out-of-date information for several patches." |
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| 08:19.51 | Torhal | Primer: Just load WoW in console mode and ExpoerInterfaceFiles art, then load it up in XNView. |
| 08:19.59 | Torhal | I've been doing that for the past five years. |
| 08:23.39 | Primer | yeah, that's so much easier than visiting a URL |
| 08:25.56 | Mr_Rabies | anyone happen to have harrison in their garrison (or surveyor daltry, but that flows a lot worse) |
| 08:26.05 | Mr_Rabies | as a daily questgiver |
| 08:26.06 | Torhal | I was trying to help, so yeah... sarcasm is an appropriate response. |
| 08:26.31 | Primer | sorry |
| 08:26.33 | Primer | I love you |
| 08:26.42 | Primer | but that's one of my pet peeves |
| 08:26.56 | Primer | "Just DO THIS THING THAT TAKES 100 MORE STEPS THAN BEFORE" |
| 08:27.54 | Mr_Rabies | hey, so long as it's not inentionally bad advice and comes from a desire to help, it's better than nothing |
| 08:28.01 | Torhal | It's initially a few more steps, but forever afterward you just ExportInterfaceFiles art from the game when there's a patch (or don't if there isn't) and load XNView. |
| 08:28.03 | Torhal | shrugs. |
| 08:28.31 | Torhal | Well, "forever" as long as both those tools are available. |
| 08:28.31 | Torhal | :D |
| 08:39.24 | Primer | WTF...just installed 64 bit java SDK on windows 10 and it restarted my machine without asking |
| 08:39.52 | Primer | all of a sudden the machine is restarting, nothing I could do to stop it |
| 08:40.46 | FireSiku | Happened to me once, did not like. |
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| 10:04.03 | Primer | Blizz pretty much fully disabled any kind of icons in chat, right? |
| 10:05.56 | nevcairiel | depends on which chat channel you are in, i think |
| 10:06.32 | Primer | in Ashran it's "instance", I think |
| 10:06.52 | nevcairiel | should still work in instance and raid chat, i think |
| 10:06.56 | Primer | cool |
| 10:15.49 | Primer | Now to find these icons. Really missing that wowprogramming catalog |
| 10:53.36 | Primer | The windows 10 start menu is such shit |
| 10:53.48 | Gnarfoz | it's not like it's not customizable |
| 10:54.32 | Gnarfoz | also, http://www.wowhead.com/icons |
| 10:55.41 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: That's just icons. There is far more artwork than that. |
| 10:55.54 | Gnarfoz | "now to find these icons" |
| 10:56.01 | Gnarfoz | but maybe you're better off helping yourself. |
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| 10:56.47 | Torhal | Oh, I was still operating off of "OMG WTF The art browser feature has been removed" |
| 10:57.02 | Torhal | Hence my earlier answer which is the whole thing :D |
| 10:57.48 | Primer | Can you have a shortcut that opens up to its...I don't know the term...sub thingies? |
| 10:58.17 | Torhal | XNView typically loads with your last-visited folder open. |
| 10:58.28 | Torhal | The tree view expanded to its former state, etc. |
| 10:58.35 | Primer | For example, in windows 7 I had a tightvnc, and several saved configs |
| 10:58.40 | Torhal | Oh |
| 10:58.49 | Torhal | Never mind me. |
| 10:58.52 | Primer | the start menu item had an arrow |
| 10:58.53 | Torhal | goes back to watching TV. |
| 10:59.00 | Primer | and I could expand it to the configs I had saved |
| 10:59.06 | Primer | Can't seem to do this in windows 10 |
| 10:59.07 | Gnarfoz | it's called a folder oO |
| 10:59.23 | Primer | no |
| 10:59.41 | Primer | I didn't have to do anything to make this happen |
| 10:59.56 | Gnarfoz | where would Windows 7's start menu have such a thing? I don't recall that existing. It does exist in Windows 10 by default, though |
| 11:00.01 | Primer | All I did was save them in tightvnc and they'd show up under the tightvnc start menu entry |
| 11:00.56 | Primer | This concept seems to no longer exist |
| 11:01.13 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/neJCvs3.png |
| 11:02.09 | foxlit | I'm relatively sure someone has a github repo for the art |
| 11:03.02 | foxlit | but maybe not, as that would be like several gigabytes, and that seems like abuse |
| 11:03.21 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: what annoys me the most about that is that i cant "pin" something to the top of that list, but only place i can pin to is the right area, which needs a right click to access the jump lists, which i find really annoying |
| 11:03.36 | Gnarfoz | hm? jump lists are a task bar feature |
| 11:03.37 | Gnarfoz | not start menu |
| 11:03.45 | nevcairiel | you would think so |
| 11:03.49 | nevcairiel | but hover over that arrow |
| 11:03.52 | nevcairiel | and read the tooltip |
| 11:03.52 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:04.16 | Gnarfoz | in any case, my mpc-hc has a Jessica Jones episode pinned to it, for some reason |
| 11:04.26 | Gnarfoz | so I don't know what you mean |
| 11:05.01 | nevcairiel | i want to pin apps to the top of the most used list, instead of only being able to pin things to the ugly right side tile view |
| 11:05.21 | Gnarfoz | I guess you want some other shell, then |
| 11:05.29 | nevcairiel | its only a small change <.< |
| 11:05.31 | Gnarfoz | "pinned" is literally the entire right area |
| 11:07.03 | Gnarfoz | anyway: win7 start menu http://i.imgur.com/bBbt1E5.png |
| 11:07.05 | Gnarfoz | same thing as in 10 |
| 11:07.28 | Gnarfoz | and as Chrome provides other categories than IrfanView does, I can only assume the program controls what shows there |
| 11:07.55 | nevcairiel | except that 7 pinned the apps there, which i would like back! |
| 11:07.56 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:08.09 | Gnarfoz | that's not what Primer asked about, though |
| 11:08.23 | nevcairiel | also i think the jumplist showed automatically without a click in 7 |
| 11:08.26 | nevcairiel | unless i remember wrong |
| 11:09.01 | nevcairiel | been a while since i used 7 |
| 11:09.03 | Gnarfoz | yes, pointing is enough |
| 11:09.21 | Primer | Well, the listing for tightvnc under "all apps" lacks this |
| 11:09.39 | Gnarfoz | Windows 7 doesn't provide this for "all apps", either |
| 11:09.41 | nevcairiel | you can always right click it to get it |
| 11:10.08 | Gnarfoz | which you couldn't on 7 |
| 11:10.58 | Gnarfoz | only pinned/recent items have this on 7; all of them have it on 10, but you have to right-click to go to the jump list |
| 11:11.14 | Gnarfoz | (or for "most recent": just click the arrow) |
| 11:11.50 | Primer | ok, jump list, that's the term...good to know |
| 11:12.08 | Gnarfoz | like nev said: just hover over the arrow ;) |
| 11:13.31 | Gnarfoz | in case you're entirely not seeing it, though, you might have disabled it |
| 11:13.41 | Gnarfoz | it's an option under Settings > Personalization > Start |
| 11:15.20 | nevcairiel | you know what would be nice, beinug able to right click on a desktop icon and also get offered the jump list in some capacity |
| 11:15.53 | nevcairiel | although if that replaces the normal context menu, i'm going to kill someone =p |
| 11:16.35 | Gnarfoz | like it does on the task bar, where you already have to hold shift to get it? :| |
| 11:16.53 | Gnarfoz | I don't really have many desktop icons, anyhow |
| 11:16.58 | nevcairiel | well it has been doing that on the taskbar for several windows versions already, so shrug |
| 11:17.29 | nevcairiel | i use my desktop as a shortcut library to things i use regularly, grouped by association e tc |
| 11:17.32 | Primer | heh, what can I say, there is no arrow |
| 11:17.43 | nevcairiel | a games corner with steam, battle.net etc, a dev corner with random tools |
| 11:18.09 | Primer | All apps, T, Tightvnc |
| 11:18.17 | Primer | only an arrow pointing downwards |
| 11:18.26 | Primer | and all that does is open the "folder" |
| 11:18.33 | nevcairiel | its not available on all apps, like Gnarfoz explained, all apps also never had it on 7 |
| 11:18.35 | Primer | the items that were installed into the start menu |
| 11:18.46 | Primer | 7 definitely had this for tightvnc |
| 11:18.47 | nevcairiel | you can right click there however |
| 11:18.51 | Gnarfoz | like I just said: you have to right click. |
| 11:19.16 | Gnarfoz | and win7 did not offer it for stuff listed under "all applications" |
| 11:19.28 | Gnarfoz | only for pinned/most used |
| 11:19.34 | Primer | nope |
| 11:19.39 | Primer | right clicking does nothing |
| 11:19.54 | Primer | but yeah, I just want to restore what I had in 7 |
| 11:19.55 | Gnarfoz | then either tightvnc only offered a "most recently used" list and you haven't used them, yet |
| 11:20.01 | Primer | which was a list of only the items I used |
| 11:20.15 | nevcairiel | maybe your app just doesnt install a jump list with the OS then :p |
| 11:20.17 | Gnarfoz | then use them and if tightvnc still supports it, they should show up |
| 11:20.18 | Primer | well, I installed this thing called classic shell |
| 11:20.23 | Gnarfoz | holy shit man |
| 11:20.23 | Primer | but my UI kept hanging |
| 11:20.32 | Primer | so I uninstalled it |
| 11:21.06 | Gnarfoz | ok, so you were talking about the regular start menu, not classic shell? :p |
| 11:21.10 | Gnarfoz | just making sure. |
| 11:21.21 | nevcairiel | some peole around here like start10, but its not free |
| 11:21.27 | Gnarfoz | anyway, have you used those saved tightvnc connections, yet? |
| 11:21.53 | Gnarfoz | if it's a MRU list, you kind of should expect to U stuff before it shows up. :P |
| 11:22.33 | Primer | When I went to 10 the first thing I missed was this "jump list". So I looked for a way to revert back to the old start menu. Classic shell offered this. As soon as I put tightvnc on the start menu and used the saved items, which are files in a totally unrelated location, I started seeing them in the jump list. |
| 11:22.44 | nevcairiel | that depends how smart the jumplist is, an app could also offer its "favorites" without them being used |
| 11:23.10 | Primer | But recently I've been seeing UI hangs, explorer completely hung, did some research and it was recommended to remove any "shell extensions", so I did |
| 11:23.22 | Primer | Now I'm committed to figuring out how to do this in 10...and it's not intuitive |
| 11:23.28 | Primer | in fact, it's quite convoluted |
| 11:23.43 | nevcairiel | works out of the box here, maybe your shell replacement fiasco disabled a bunch of options |
| 11:24.20 | Primer | No, I think the problem is that I don't have tightvnc pinned to the start menu |
| 11:24.26 | Primer | I've yet to figure out how to do that too |
| 11:24.48 | Primer | in 7 you could just drag a shortcut to the start button...but this does nothing |
| 11:25.02 | nevcairiel | right click, pin to start |
| 11:25.36 | Primer | heh, ok, that was simple enough |
| 11:27.25 | Primer | Ok, so I have a batch file to run mintty |
| 11:27.42 | Primer | The only option is to pin to taskbar |
| 11:27.47 | Primer | right click option, that is |
| 11:29.30 | nevcairiel | you can make a shortcut that points to cmd.exe which runs your batch file, at least those are pinnable to start |
| 11:29.45 | nevcairiel | i think it wants actually executables |
| 11:35.36 | Primer | Ok, my "recent" are all there under tightvnc |
| 11:35.41 | Primer | thanks, guys! |
| 11:51.05 | Primer | Gnarfoz: don't suppose you'd know the name of the role icons? |
| 11:53.10 | Gnarfoz | Interface\\LFGFrame\\UI-LFG-ICON-PORTRAITROLES |
| 11:54.18 | Gnarfoz | at least that's what the code I stole from nebula long ago uses |
| 11:55.30 | nebula | for use with GetTexCoordsForRoleSmallCircle(role) and such |
| 11:59.28 | Primer | searched for "role", no results, wtf... |
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| 12:41.43 | zenzelezz | I find Endless Space's difficulty descriptions witty. Very easy: "The enemy AI thinks the Maginot line was a brilliant idea". Normal: "If the British had been like this, the US would still be a colony". Hard: "Every bit as great as Alexander" (and others, but not as amusing) |
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| 13:34.39 | karl_w_w | straya. http://www.mygc.com.au/man-crashes-unregistered-motorbike-cop-car-drinking-stubby/ |
| 13:43.19 | zenzelezz | what's a stubby? |
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| 14:29.27 | foxlit | I wonder if wow has a small bin icon usable as a metaphor for deletion |
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| 14:51.30 | thepriest | HI! quick question |
| 14:52.14 | thepriest | While raiding AS Shadow, which requires multidotting, I embarrassingly sometimes lose track of my Mind Blast cooldown. Im looking to have weak auras repeat my ON SHOW SOUND QUE until the spell has been cast. |
| 14:52.26 | thepriest | any ideas? |
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| 14:58.12 | karl_w_w | zenzelezz, a bottle of beer of a certain size |
| 14:58.21 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 14:58.44 | zenzelezz | so basically like a pint |
| 14:58.53 | zenzelezz | well, those aren't usually bottles |
| 14:59.00 | zenzelezz | so bad comparison |
| 15:00.37 | thepriest | While raiding AS Shadow, which requires multidotting, I embarrassingly sometimes lose track of my Mind Blast cooldown. Im looking to have weak auras repeat my ON SHOW SOUND QUE until the spell has been cast. |
| 15:00.45 | thepriest | any ideas? |
| 15:06.47 | pompy1 | Stanzilla, znf: ^ |
| 15:07.32 | Stanzilla | urm use cooldown in progress (spell) and the reverse checkbox |
| 15:07.50 | Stanzilla | and add a sound, it will play the sound as long as the spell is not on cd |
| 15:11.43 | thepriest | ty will try <3 |
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| 15:24.33 | zenzelezz | "I know it's a bug, but decapitation by punching feels pretty nice. Can we keep it?" |
| 15:33.55 | mckenziemc | punches zenzelezz. |
| 15:35.04 | thepriest | Im looking to have weak auras repeat my ON SHOW SOUND QUE until the spell has been cast. |
| 15:35.07 | thepriest | any ideas? |
| 15:36.44 | Stanzilla | oh sorry |
| 15:36.50 | Stanzilla | you'd have to do custom code for that |
| 15:36.56 | Phatso | well the audio clip youll be using is set for sure; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj20Ao4Vw9w |
| 15:37.56 | thepriest | ya i figured i was gunna need some custom code |
| 15:38.03 | thepriest | lui is confusing a fk tho |
| 15:38.21 | Phatso | well lua isnt :D |
| 15:38.44 | thepriest | than perhaps you could help me with the string? |
| 15:38.55 | thepriest | im sure its relatively simple to someone practiced |
| 15:39.17 | Phatso | i was just joking :D |
| 15:39.21 | Phatso | i dont know jack shit |
| 15:39.24 | thepriest | oic heh |
| 15:40.44 | Phatso | wait... just for my interest. you want a custom channel sound for mind blast or what? |
| 15:42.18 | thepriest | no whats happeneing is |
| 15:42.31 | thepriest | when i get in the multidot mode(like on socrethar) |
| 15:42.42 | thepriest | i often forget to use my mindblast in between dotting things up |
| 15:43.02 | thepriest | so i want it to just keep beeping(a standard sound) until i use the action |
| 15:43.06 | Phatso | and you want a sound when mindblast comes off cooldown? |
| 15:43.25 | thepriest | yes, which i have, but i need it to keep playing over and over until mindblast is casted |
| 15:43.29 | thepriest | not just play once |
| 15:43.53 | Phatso | thats going to awkward as fuck i hope you realise that |
| 15:44.18 | thepriest | awkward? |
| 15:44.37 | pompy1 | https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/706497470851739648 that explains it |
| 15:44.42 | thepriest | ty sit |
| 15:44.44 | thepriest | sir |
| 15:44.50 | nevcairiel | plenty times there is a movement phase or whatever, or the mob is doing some emote shit and cant be attacked, and the WA is going to spam you =p |
| 15:45.37 | Phatso | ^^ |
| 15:45.55 | Phatso | some of plenty exceptions thats going to annoy you the fuck out of this planet |
| 15:47.12 | thepriest | ok well thanks for the thought guys |
| 15:47.15 | thepriest | maybe ill just |
| 15:47.19 | thepriest | try and not be bad |
| 15:47.20 | thepriest | lol |
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| 19:52.10 | mckenziemc | offers Torhal some minecart rolls. |
| 19:55.25 | karl_w_w | offers mckenziemc a minecraft role. |
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| 20:52.42 | zenzelezz | wow, Mass Effect 3 was four years ago? I guess my memory's worse than I remembered |
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| 21:25.56 | karl_w_w | it's funny how I can disconnect and reconnect via VPN to many servers and my IRC always stays connected, but the moment I change a setting on my NIC and it has to restart the connect is dead |
| 21:26.53 | karl_w_w | I guess when the NIC goes for a restart it automatically terminates connections first |
| 22:31.34 | Gnarfoz | or your IRC doesn't go through your VPN |
| 22:31.41 | Gnarfoz | mindblown.gif |
| 22:31.47 | VIad | it's ok, he has wireless internet |
| 22:32.04 | Gnarfoz | I don't classify "wireless internet" as "ok" |
| 22:32.04 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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