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| 00:08.56 | Iriel | Looks like it's resuming |
| 00:09.04 | Iriel | At least they just set a liftoff time |
| 00:21.31 | zenzelezz | welp |
| 00:21.33 | Iriel | And abort. |
| 00:21.36 | zenzelezz | I guess 0:00 is the closest so far |
| 00:22.40 | zenzelezz | at least interesting listening to the checklist |
| 00:29.48 | Iriel | Hm, not scrubbed _yet_ |
| 00:29.58 | zenzelezz | apparently the window is much larger than I thought |
| 00:32.54 | Iriel | Scrub I guess |
| 00:32.56 | zenzelezz | aww... expected, but still |
| 00:33.42 | Iriel | As you said, it's been interesting listening to the process |
| 00:34.09 | zenzelezz | honestly, listgening to the checklists are like 50% or the reason I pay attention :D |
| 00:34.13 | zenzelezz | also listening |
| 00:34.39 | zenzelezz | apparently I cannot type at all anymore |
| 01:37.36 | karl_w_w | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/29/man-to-be-sentenced-for-attempting-to-a-corpse?CMP=twt_a-world_b-gdnworld |
| 01:38.10 | karl_w_w | ooh i like that the url is cryptic |
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| 01:44.45 | Gnarfoz | did he accidentally the entire corpse? |
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| 02:11.47 | Cairenn | amusing is misreading the end of the url as "...?CMP=twat-world..." |
| 02:12.00 | Cairenn | and on that note /sleep |
| 02:27.39 | znf | oh, btw, if you're interested |
| 02:27.43 | znf | http://oscars.ercdn.com/oscars-org/oscars-org_1.m3u8 |
| 02:27.58 | znf | mad max just won best makeup |
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| 02:41.32 | emihir0 | what would be the best/easiest way to find the actual name of the pet when i pull the data from wow ah api? there is the speciesID available (in general, all items have itemID available) |
| 02:41.51 | emihir0 | is there some file that i can dl with all the ids and their corresponding names or? |
| 03:04.55 | Seerah | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByPetID ? |
| 03:05.06 | Seerah | emihir0: ^^ |
| 03:05.26 | emihir0 | uhm, that's for ingame addon |
| 03:06.10 | Seerah | and that's all I had to go off of for helping you. But sorry for taking the time to look it up and link it. :p |
| 03:06.12 | emihir0 | i'm pulling the data from blizz ah api in my python script, so can't really use ingame functions there |
| 03:06.38 | emihir0 | i'm sorry for not explaining it well enough to begin with to cause confusion >.< |
| 03:06.45 | Seerah | :) |
| 03:06.45 | emihir0 | <3 Seerah |
| 03:06.48 | emihir0 | ^_^ |
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| 03:21.27 | End | emihir0: yes, you should be able to get it from the speciesID (I see a /wow/pet/species/<speciesid>) |
| 03:23.45 | End | emihir0: however, I would expect there also to be the custom name that you can set for a pet, which should show up somewhere when you pull the player's pets |
| 03:24.28 | emihir0 | problem is that requesting that for each pet individually might be a bit slow. but i found you can request them all at once, store it and then access it in the dictionary whenever you need ^_^ |
| 03:25.20 | End | can you cache it? |
| 03:25.38 | End | the species definition doesn't really change much |
| 03:26.35 | End | and the total number of species numbers in the thousands on the high end (which includes unobtainable pets) |
| 03:31.02 | emihir0 | i mean i basically just request /wow/pet/ once and store the data, then when i request ah and encounter pet, i find the id in the data i previously stored, i think that's more efficient than requesting each pet individually (even if gets stored after being requested once?) |
| 03:32.20 | End | oh didn't realize that could give all species, that's interesting |
| 03:55.17 | emihir0 | ^_^ |
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| 04:55.29 | Stanzilla | HE DID IT |
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| 05:51.20 | Fisker | Hey Stanzilla |
| 05:54.41 | mckenziemc1 | heys Fisker and hugs Cairenn. |
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| 08:32.49 | nevcairiel | so did all the people just go crazy, or is it a "normal" thing to celebrate leap day in the muricas? I never heard of such a crazyness |
| 08:34.18 | Trela | Oh shit, it is a leap year. |
| 08:34.38 | Trela | News to me, Nevcairiel. |
| 08:35.14 | Fisker | It's a "normal" thing in germany as well nevcairiel |
| 08:35.26 | nevcairiel | i never heard of anyone celebrating the leap day here =p |
| 08:35.40 | nevcairiel | so at least not in this part of germany! |
| 08:35.55 | Fisker | Nobody does in practice |
| 08:36.19 | Fisker | But it's legitimately a day for celebration |
| 08:37.02 | Trela | Technically the day does not exist, so if you get drunk and wasted at work, didn't technically happen! |
| 08:37.20 | nevcairiel | and practically you are still ouit of a job the next day |
| 08:37.37 | Fisker | Depends on where you work |
| 08:38.01 | nevcairiel | surely, i could get wasted every day and noone would notice |
| 08:38.47 | Fisker | Working at home doesn't count though |
| 08:39.03 | nevcairiel | mean :( |
| 08:39.48 | Fisker | sorry |
| 08:40.07 | Fisker | But my package is in Denmark now I don't depend on you any longer |
| 08:40.21 | nevcairiel | i replaced its contents with one of Stanzilla's socks |
| 08:40.30 | Fisker | I already have two |
| 08:50.09 | VIad | I celebeate the leap day if its a bonus sat/sun |
| 08:50.23 | VIad | #nothowleapdayswork |
| 08:52.16 | nevcairiel | that would be fun, if leap day wasnt a normal week day, but like, actually"leap day" and tomorrow would be monday instead |
| 08:52.23 | nevcairiel | screw with all the calendars |
| 08:53.32 | karl_w_w | https://i.imgur.com/2ONx6iD.jpg |
| 08:54.20 | nevcairiel | so is that about the broken world perception of the muricans, or the news person making a duck face |
| 09:01.46 | karl_w_w | why not both |
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| 09:31.05 | VIad | is it true that leo finally got an oscar? |
| 09:33.23 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 09:34.10 | VIad | =:o |
| 09:47.09 | Fisker | o l d |
| 09:59.09 | karl_w_w | yes he is Fisker, but there's no need to rub it in |
| 10:53.34 | FireSiku_ | Awww, the leo memes have to end? :( |
| 10:54.42 | Semlar | i suspect this will only serve to fuel them |
| 10:56.15 | karl_w_w | Leo tried so hard to get an oscar, in the end all he had to do was fuck a bear |
| 11:40.19 | karl_w_w | what's the betting on the next raspberry pi having an m.2 slot |
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| 12:07.25 | VIad | karl_w_w: fuck a bear, spoilers much? |
| 12:08.04 | karl_w_w | nope |
| 12:20.54 | VIad | shown in the trailer? |
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| 12:33.11 | karl_w_w | nope |
| 12:53.27 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k9SfXcS8cs |
| 13:55.16 | mitch0 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXOSZ0u6Fyk |
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| 15:18.50 | VIad | mitch0: who allowed you to stop coding addons and watch youtube? |
| 15:19.44 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.31 | VIad | isn't that a norm? |
| 15:32.13 | Fisker | no VIad |
| 15:32.23 | Fisker | Maybe if your equipment was like 10+ years old |
| 15:32.45 | nevcairiel | some lowish routers probably still are like this today |
| 15:35.32 | Fisker | Doubt it |
| 15:40.59 | nebula | i've seen older switches with one gig port for backhaul, seems odd for a router to just have one |
| 15:42.26 | karl_w_w | anyone use a paid VPN? |
| 15:49.21 | Mr_Rabies | at this point, the components for gigabit ethernet are probably what, a fraction of a cent higher than those for 10/100? |
| 15:49.35 | Mr_Rabies | that's what confused me for the steam link |
| 15:49.52 | Mr_Rabies | i can imagine it would have worked a lot better with gigabit even if it seems to work right now with 10/100 |
| 15:50.32 | Mr_Rabies | there is definitely a bit of color banding, and i can't help but feel more bitrate on the signal would help solve that |
| 15:50.38 | Mr_Rabies | even at max settings |
| 15:52.09 | nevcairiel | 100mbit bitrate is fine for 1080p60 transmission, in fact it would be too much for an efficient encoder, however due to the need of it being real-time, the encoders cant be all that efficient |
| 15:56.02 | karl_w_w | long-ass hdmi cable > * |
| 15:56.24 | VIad | oh 1gbit/s not 10gbit/s |
| 15:56.26 | VIad | got it |
| 15:59.32 | foxlit | After installing wow and sc2 by copying installs from another computer, I can conclude that the battle.net app is totally not tested for this. |
| 16:00.10 | nevcairiel | why |
| 16:00.17 | VIad | foxlit: you can trick it to avoid downloading it all |
| 16:00.40 | foxlit | both got stuck in various update loops. |
| 16:00.47 | nevcairiel | i imported pre-installed versions of all blizzard games just this weekend with minimal to none download action, at least not more than a few seconds |
| 16:00.52 | foxlit | the agent is incapable of overwriting Hidden files. |
| 16:01.08 | nebula | weird, last time i reinstalled windows i just pointed the bnet app at the old install dirs and it worked fine |
| 16:01.12 | karl_w_w | well make it capable! |
| 16:01.14 | nevcairiel | mine too |
| 16:01.22 | nevcairiel | just did it sunday when i reinstalled winodws |
| 16:01.25 | nevcairiel | windows* |
| 16:02.06 | VIad | same with my weekly windows format |
| 16:02.43 | foxlit | and I think the post-install firewall rules update didn't work, so launching sc2 executables indirectly got them stuck on the "trying to connect to streaming" step. |
| 16:03.45 | nevcairiel | i dont have outgoing connections limited, so there is that |
| 16:04.15 | foxlit | (granted, maybe it isn't supposed to be executed through anything other than the app, which blatantly refused to launch something it didn't consider to be updated) |
| 16:04.50 | VIad | day 291: no legion invite today |
| 16:05.05 | foxlit | The error messages are generally of the useless "Something went horribly wrong! Try again. Or kick a puppy or something. That might work" variety. |
| 16:05.34 | nevcairiel | its 8am in blizzard town VIad =p |
| 16:05.51 | VIad | 8:05 |
| 16:06.07 | nevcairiel | also finally go and buy yourself an L |
| 16:06.24 | VIad | I can't :( |
| 16:06.33 | VIad | an impostor has taken the nick |
| 16:06.54 | foxlit | more like you're the impostor. |
| 16:07.06 | VIad | no! my IRL name is vlad |
| 16:07.23 | nevcairiel | this name is ridiculously bad, just use the long version you use on curse or something |
| 16:07.28 | foxlit | and you're as unique as a snowflake. |
| 16:07.57 | VIad | yes!' |
| 16:08.02 | VIad | putin doesn't wow anyway |
| 16:12.10 | Gnarfoz | how would you know |
| 16:13.00 | nevcairiel | presumably even obama wow'ed! |
| 16:13.30 | nevcairiel | before he became president tho |
| 16:15.00 | foxlit | hm, my font of choice appears to have vanished from the font selection dialog. |
| 16:16.10 | VIad | back later to torment you all |
| 16:18.00 | foxlit | (font DRM, hurray!) |
| 16:18.09 | nevcairiel | trial expire? =p |
| 16:18.28 | foxlit | I presume they only licensed it for certain applications, and are hiding it from everything else at system level. |
| 16:22.55 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/6d32ofY |
| 16:22.57 | mikma | eh, mate |
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| 17:11.36 | Torhal | VIad: nevcairiel isn't wrong. Every time I see your nick I want to punch a baby. |
| 17:12.11 | nevcairiel | luckily you only have kittens around |
| 17:12.16 | Torhal | :/ |
| 17:12.34 | Torhal | Not really, anymore. They'll be 10 months old soon. |
| 17:12.41 | foxlit | that's like 20 in dog years? |
| 17:12.46 | Torhal | Hah |
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| 17:44.23 | VIad | on video games, instead of having these weird low/normal/high/veryhigh/ultra why not use 50% for normal 100% for max and above 100% for experimental "high" I mean it would make it appear a bit more comprehensive |
| 17:44.48 | VIad | its essentially steps anyway, just weird labeling imo |
| 17:52.36 | mckenziemc | are you high VIad? |
| 17:52.43 | VIad | yes |
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| 18:17.12 | zenzelezz | "So are you using SSAO?" "I don't know, my graphics setting is 80%" |
| 18:17.42 | VIad | thats different than the "texture quality" option |
| 18:18.16 | VIad | is ultra 1080p, 4k, 8k? |
| 18:18.38 | zenzelezz | well what is 50%? Still 50% in two years, or just 25%? |
| 18:19.00 | VIad | each game is different. many of the options consist of "off/low/normal/high/veryhigh/ultra/superultra" and its hard to interpret |
| 18:19.09 | VIad | 100% would be the intended highest setting for texture quality |
| 18:19.10 | zenzelezz | so is % |
| 18:19.17 | VIad | 50% would be the normal average pc |
| 18:19.21 | VIad | at the time of the games release |
| 18:19.27 | zenzelezz | "normal", "average" makes no sense on PC |
| 18:19.34 | VIad | sure it does |
| 18:19.45 | VIad | they make the game to run on certain machines |
| 18:19.51 | VIad | that they consider average PC gamers |
| 18:20.11 | FireSiku | From what ive figured, Low = Your computer is closer to the minimum settings, ultra above are for people vastly above recommended settings. |
| 18:20.17 | zenzelezz | so the 100% label would obviously come with a label that said "... relative to a benchamrk of <spec X>" |
| 18:20.23 | FireSiku | minimum requirements* |
| 18:20.44 | VIad | if you open farcry and looka t the options |
| 18:20.53 | VIad | you often see some settings having low/normal/high as choices |
| 18:21.05 | VIad | others use low/normal/high/veryhigh and others again add ultra |
| 18:21.16 | VIad | so at a glance you have no clue what option is it, the maxed? the medium option? |
| 18:21.30 | VIad | you have to go try push right until it goes to off/low then you know where you are |
| 18:21.40 | zenzelezz | I see what you're saying, but I have no faith in using a percentage helping |
| 18:21.40 | VIad | at least they should add a step indicator on the options if nothing else |
| 18:22.05 | VIad | I dont see a big issue replacing the nonsense labels |
| 18:22.07 | VIad | with percentages :p |
| 18:22.20 | zenzelezz | I don't see an *issue*, but I see no *benefit* |
| 18:22.30 | VIad | it would be easy to spot if you run at the max or medium settings |
| 18:22.40 | VIad | if the labels say 50% most of them, then you are around the middle options |
| 18:22.51 | VIad | thats the benefit |
| 18:23.24 | zenzelezz | would the scale be non-linear then? |
| 18:23.30 | zenzelezz | what would the 0% represent? |
| 18:23.33 | VIad | off |
| 18:23.39 | VIad | but it would like the current labels, be non linear |
| 18:23.50 | zenzelezz | and the 1-24% range? |
| 18:24.11 | VIad | if they have 6 steps, then 100/6 |
| 18:24.13 | VIad | maths yo |
| 18:24.18 | zenzelezz | so linear |
| 18:24.19 | VIad | 6/100 |
| 18:24.27 | VIad | its up to the dev |
| 18:24.34 | VIad | just innovate the damn labels :p |
| 18:24.41 | VIad | *option screen |
| 18:24.48 | zenzelezz | I'm only curious about your ideas |
| 18:24.57 | zenzelezz | they have merit, even though I wouldn't agree |
| 18:25.06 | VIad | its up to the dev |
| 18:25.16 | VIad | if they feel like they should place 10% for low or 20% for low |
| 18:25.36 | End | I can see why it'd be useful, since it'd potentially be more meaningful than making it display "custom" as soon as you manipulate any of the settings |
| 18:26.26 | zenzelezz | my main concern is that if you use "low", "medium", "high" and "very high", you may wish there was a step between "medium" and "high", but I would have a harder time accepting why I couldn't adjust just a few percentage points rather than X step |
| 18:26.33 | End | although it might be misleading depending how much effect certain settings actually have (depending on differences in hardware, for example) |
| 18:27.10 | VIad | I didnt think about that |
| 18:27.56 | VIad | I just thought your options would be like [0, 25, 50, 75, 100, 200]% the >100% is silly but could be used for those special supercomputers that wish to run stuff at higher than expected |
| 18:28.08 | VIad | and assign some hardcoded value to the labels |
| 18:28.19 | VIad | or like you suggest, could assign a formula to calculate based on these % |
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| 18:28.26 | zenzelezz | you would also attract a whole bunch of whiners who would tell you that it's impossible to have better than max quality |
| 18:28.27 | mckenziemc | because arbitrarily assigning things to % is trendy |
| 18:28.30 | VIad | so you can if you like specify 5% instead of 0 or 20% or something |
| 18:28.46 | zenzelezz | neither labels nor percentages are optimal :D |
| 18:29.07 | VIad | ideally all of us knows all graphic card jargons and know how the unreal engine works so we can just edit the ini files of thousands of options and get the perfect tweaked game |
| 18:29.45 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 18:29.46 | VIad | but in reality some limitations are neat, also deterministic behavior is good since they would run tests to the various setups their options allow users to pick :p |
| 18:29.50 | mckenziemc | you could always write your own script to convert a custom definition of %s into settings |
| 18:30.49 | VIad | ofc. the idea was just to replace the default labels they put in texture quality from low/medium/normal/high/ultra/superultra/amazing to something like % to get more sense of where you are on your options when you look at your option menu at a glance |
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| 18:31.01 | VIad | at least adding step indicators would help too |
| 18:31.22 | mckenziemc | i don't see that as any better |
| 18:31.23 | VIad | the "< label >" says nothing where you are among the choices |
| 18:31.38 | mckenziemc | in between the adjacent choices |
| 18:31.45 | zenzelezz | for that setting alone, it would make more sense; your original statement didn't (or if it did, I didn't read it) mention that... I was thinking overall |
| 18:32.00 | VIad | well if it indicated with an image below the label like 4/5 dots or something you know its one more option to the right then you go back to the lowest option |
| 18:32.25 | VIad | there are many other settings that use those words in various quantities |
| 18:32.33 | VIad | texture quality often has a lot of options |
| 18:32.48 | VIad | stuff like the quality of godrays can be less, or water quality, e.g. |
| 18:33.08 | VIad | shadow quality, lots of options. some max at high, others at very high, others at ultra, e.g. |
| 18:34.12 | VIad | some games are nice, having external tool to allow tweaking graphics outside the game |
| 18:34.14 | zenzelezz | I like when you have games like World of Tanks, which offers a drop-down list for anti-aliasing... "OFF", "FXAA", "TSSAA-LQ", "TSSAA-HQ", without a single attempt to explain what they mean |
| 18:34.24 | VIad | often those have nicer interfaces :D |
| 18:34.40 | VIad | yeah. that too is nice. explaining what the option actually does |
| 18:34.47 | VIad | performance cost expected, e.g. |
| 18:35.02 | VIad | maybe some benchmarked "we think you should use this option on your pc" |
| 18:35.12 | VIad | wow is kind of good at it I guess, at suggesting and explaining |
| 18:41.51 | VIad | nope, no legion beta yet. |
| 18:42.03 | VIad | I guess I should do something else than check my bnet app |
| 18:42.57 | End | I usually assume "better" is at the bottom of the list (and there at least, LQ is low quality vs HQ is high quality) |
| 18:43.23 | VIad | "very high" sneaks up on your option |
| 18:43.37 | VIad | you had your water effect at a lower option than the max, muhaha! |
| 18:43.51 | zenzelezz | End: that part is reasonable, yes. But Joe Average, or even Above Average, doesn't necessarily have any idea what TSSAA means |
| 18:43.53 | zenzelezz | or even FXAA |
| 18:44.13 | VIad | some game had very good AA explanations |
| 18:44.16 | VIad | cant remember what game atm |
| 18:44.20 | mckenziemc | settings that can be tried / looked up |
| 18:44.33 | VIad | depends if the game requires you to reboot the game |
| 18:44.33 | zenzelezz | I tried searching for TSSAA when they added it to WoT; barely found anything |
| 18:44.37 | VIad | or can do it on the fly |
| 18:44.40 | End | yeah |
| 18:44.54 | VIad | I often pick the option I know works okay for me in that case |
| 18:46.52 | mckenziemc | temporal + supersampling maybe? but i see your point |
| 18:47.01 | Torhal | I'm beginning to believe VIad is Amarande's pupil, mckenziemc. |
| 18:47.05 | Torhal | Like a Sith thing. |
| 18:47.07 | VIad | :D |
| 18:47.39 | zenzelezz | he finds your lack of customizable settings disturbing |
| 18:47.45 | Torhal | :O |
| 18:47.47 | End | hah |
| 18:48.00 | karl_w_w | http://store.steampowered.com/search/?#sort_by=_ASC&vrsupport=101%2C102&page=1 |
| 18:48.42 | mckenziemc | where's the option for keeping your money |
| 18:49.09 | FireSiku | Silly mckenziemc, this is Steam we're talking about. |
| 18:49.49 | mckenziemc | and vive / rift |
| 18:53.13 | VIad | LWT made me laugh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ |
| 18:55.03 | karl_w_w | but mckenziemc if you keep your money you won't be able to enjoy tea party simulator |
| 18:55.14 | FireSiku | I remember a XKCD graph that linked "Every candidate that won X ended up being Y, until [person that broke the rule]" |
| 18:58.56 | mckenziemc | hey karl_w_w, want to try a drowning simulator? |
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| 19:08.27 | emihir0 | on the wow website, is there a way to request a change of char (ie. which one displays as your forum poster guy) using some url request? |
| 19:10.01 | emihir0 | so say i have char Emihiro and Nisshoku, currently Emihiro is selected, is there a way to change it to Nisshoku through code so i don't post on forums as a wrong 'person'? |
| 19:10.24 | zenzelezz | why through code? |
| 19:11.08 | emihir0 | it's more of me toying around with random stuff and learning along the way, rather than it being anything really useful |
| 19:12.27 | VIad | emihir0: you want to change your forum character to post with? |
| 19:12.47 | emihir0 | yes, through code (python hopefully?) |
| 19:12.57 | emihir0 | when i change my char it doesn't show up anywhere in the url |
| 19:12.58 | VIad | arent you browsing via a browser? |
| 19:13.05 | emihir0 | i'm |
| 19:13.14 | mckenziemc | he's botting |
| 19:13.21 | emihir0 | what? |
| 19:13.28 | mckenziemc | jk :p |
| 19:13.30 | emihir0 | ... |
| 19:13.35 | emihir0 | >.> not funny |
| 19:14.11 | VIad | when you swap they post to http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/pref/character |
| 19:14.13 | emihir0 | as i said, it's very useful or important, but i wanted to have a look on how do you request stuff from website that aren't done through url |
| 19:14.34 | emihir0 | hmm |
| 19:14.55 | VIad | the page then refreshes |
| 19:14.56 | End | I'm sure it's still done through a url, but that'd probably be an ajax request |
| 19:15.06 | VIad | its ajax ofc |
| 19:15.17 | VIad | wait |
| 19:15.22 | VIad | you can swap before you post too |
| 19:15.32 | emihir0 | uhm, so if i have emihiro-outland and nisshoku-stormscale (char-server) |
| 19:15.34 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1456773332.png |
| 19:15.34 | emihir0 | what would be the format |
| 19:15.43 | VIad | the arrow opens the menu |
| 19:15.46 | VIad | can easily swap before hitting post |
| 19:16.09 | emihir0 | yes i know, as i said, this is not really that useful, it's just me learning how to do such things |
| 19:19.00 | VIad | CharSelect.pin(1); |
| 19:19.09 | VIad | javascript to easily swap between the last two active characters |
| 19:23.22 | emihir0 | uhm, wouldn't this get detected and flag me as some kind of bot though? i mean when i execute 'clicks' and such on the website, rather than a simple url request? |
| 19:23.28 | Simca | no. |
| 19:24.13 | emihir0 | i see |
| 19:25.52 | emihir0 | ok well, i'll have a look at javascript then ^_^, thanks guys |
| 19:26.29 | Simca | in both cases, you're not doing anything directly that the server sees - there is probably a POST request behind the javascript used by the page that is being executed indirectly when you click on the button |
| 19:27.26 | Simca | or the content was there all along and you're just toggling visibility |
| 19:27.35 | emihir0 | hmm i see |
| 19:28.03 | Simca | but yeah, javascript is what you want to use for messing with web page content from a browser setting |
| 19:28.26 | emihir0 | but surely they have to have some protection against remote-ah-bots apart from 'too many requests too often', right? dont worry i'm not trying to develop anythign like that, it's way above my scope anyway, just curious |
| 19:29.03 | VIad | all it does is just do what you do if you click it manually :p |
| 19:29.06 | VIad | also if you want to make it smart |
| 19:29.11 | VIad | document.querySelectorAll('.user-plate .character .character-list a[onclick^="CharSelect.pin"]') |
| 19:29.16 | VIad | returns all your characters in the dropdown |
| 19:29.18 | Simca | remote AH is an android/apple app iirc |
| 19:29.23 | Simca | can't be done from website? |
| 19:29.27 | emihir0 | it can |
| 19:29.49 | emihir0 | when you have web browser games for example, they can detect bots... i thought they do it at the level of the browser, rather than their server (ie. too many requests too often or such) |
| 19:30.53 | Simca | web browser games are somewhat different. in the case of flash, it's compiled code and you can't easily interact with it |
| 19:31.08 | emihir0 | i see |
| 19:32.15 | emihir0 | although i had games like travian in mind. not sure if you are fmailiar with it, but i dont think it runs based on flash? well at least i know you can see every change being reflected in the url, so you could make shortcuts to go to some specific building or such by just going straight to that url (instead of like 5 step-click procedure 'ingame') |
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| 19:34.11 | emihir0 | @VIad currently i can't really see what's going on there with that querySelectorAll, but i'll familiarise myself with javascript (i assume that is javascript?) and will save what you said now so i can see how it works later ^_^ |
| 19:34.30 | VIad | use your browser console |
| 19:34.34 | VIad | it can help |
| 19:35.20 | emihir0 | ah, i see CharSelect.pin(1); changes between the last 2 chars, yes |
| 19:35.31 | VIad | y |
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