| 00:03.04 | FireSiku | Yes |
| 00:03.22 | FireSiku | Actually, I think its more like a 72-96 hours respawn timer |
| 00:03.55 | Mr_Rabies | depends on the mob i think, but yeah, it's a pretty long time |
| 00:04.12 | Mr_Rabies | and since the cata zones are CRZ, you're very unlikely to see them |
| 00:05.31 | Semlar2 | i wish they would do something about people just hopping between servers to check them for spawns |
| 00:06.14 | nevcairiel | they should just make you zone over when you're at least on the same continent or maybe even same zone, then it would be far less usuable |
| 00:06.24 | nevcairiel | ... as the group leader |
| 00:07.22 | Semlar2 | i don't know what the best solution is but deciding you need to hop to another server shouldn't be something you have to think about |
| 00:07.37 | nevcairiel | you dont have to |
| 00:07.47 | nevcairiel | this is all optional content |
| 00:08.32 | Semlar2 | it shouldn't be an option |
| 00:08.51 | nevcairiel | why would you even care |
| 00:09.07 | nevcairiel | let them do it if they want to |
| 00:09.17 | Semlar2 | i'm not sure if you've ever tried to do something like tame a rare but you literally can't do it any more |
| 00:09.25 | Semlar2 | they won't be there |
| 00:10.43 | Semlar2 | but even if it didn't have an impact on other players, jumping between servers to do something in game should not be part of the game |
| 00:11.04 | Semlar2 | "oh, mob's not here, better check another server" |
| 00:11.34 | nevcairiel | there is no way to prevent it entirely that wouldnt cut into fluid gameplay |
| 00:11.56 | nevcairiel | you can limit it by adding things like continent requirements |
| 00:12.16 | nevcairiel | but eventually you want grouped players in the s ame phase, being able to do anything they wish |
| 00:14.09 | Semlar2 | good point, we should remove the group finder |
| 00:19.43 | Semlar2 | if they put a time limit on how often you can switch servers it would put a major damper on it |
| 00:20.17 | nevcairiel | if they even care |
| 00:20.32 | nevcairiel | instead they worry about the water strider being so over powered people wouldnt use any other mounts anymore |
| 00:20.46 | nevcairiel | sometimes they really invent theoretical problems, dont they |
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| 00:32.06 | Gryzvwald | I'm just waiting for the eventual "Jumped the Shark" achievment. |
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| 00:37.06 | Neffi | Anyone know of a good online retailer of liquor (for US)? |
| 00:37.44 | kullervo | pff I need a WA or something to reset instances when someone trades me a certain amount of gold |
| 00:40.27 | Neffi | The retailers Google turns up all have terrible prices compared to the Whisky Exchange, but WE charges a buttload to thip into the US, and also will probably be held up by customs :( |
| 00:40.54 | fewyn | today has been a great day |
| 00:41.01 | fewyn | i got the job promotion at work |
| 00:41.45 | Neffi | \o/ |
| 00:41.48 | Neffi | congrats |
| 00:48.13 | fewyn | it's exciting |
| 00:48.16 | fewyn | and scary at the same time |
| 00:56.35 | Ressy | grats! |
| 00:59.02 | kullervo | does getting positioned at a more difficult post which also means better salary count as a promotion? |
| 01:00.46 | fewyn | dunno kullervo |
| 01:00.59 | fewyn | i'm moving from being a tier 1 call center grunt to a trainer |
| 01:05.34 | kullervo | neat |
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| 02:30.05 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/thuglifevideo/videos/524627604385204/ lol |
| 02:39.57 | kullervo | making global hotkeys for wow wouldn't violate tos, since those are still a single hardware action right? |
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| 02:52.14 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: so im thinking about trying lxqt on my new laptop but on debian it needs me to pick at least one window manager other than kwin.... |
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| 03:33.07 | Semlar | kullervo: what do you mean by global hotkey |
| 03:40.32 | kullervo | say I press "1" it'd target a particular wow client instead of firefox or spotify |
| 03:41.12 | Semlar | while you're using another program? |
| 03:41.30 | kullervo | that's sort of the point |
| 03:41.41 | Semlar | i assume that's how people multibox |
| 03:41.42 | kullervo | actually I just want my auction snipe bind to work from the other wow client |
| 03:42.35 | kullervo | or firefox or whatever I happen to have instead of the bank account where someone just posted 50k worth of epics for their friend to buy at 1c |
| 03:42.46 | Semlar | that sure sounds like it goes against the spirit of the game |
| 03:43.35 | kullervo | as does what I do right now, nobody cares about that |
| 03:44.00 | kullervo | 2.4m turnover 1.4m profit this month and it's not even over yet |
| 03:49.13 | Semlar | neffi did you take my package |
| 03:57.52 | Torhal | Wow, Semlar. Rude. Neffi has nothing to do with your woman issues, |
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| 04:15.22 | Semlar | torhal what did you do to wowi |
| 04:15.59 | Torhal | I squeezed Cairenn until she popped. |
| 04:16.50 | mckenziemc | stabs Torhal I before he can make Torhal II |
| 04:17.11 | bshelden | Didn't he skip right to Torhal III and the reboot already? |
| 04:17.23 | Torhal | I'm just 1s and 0s, mckenziemc. I reproduce easily. |
| 04:17.27 | Torhal | Many more than II. |
| 04:17.38 | mckenziemc | so, 3? |
| 04:17.57 | Torhal | That's actually my personal designation, mckenziemc. My son is IV. |
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| 04:18.20 | mckenziemc | how do you know i didn't go back in time to do that? |
| 04:18.45 | mckenziemc | and you're JDC III, not Torhal III |
| 04:18.51 | mckenziemc | :p |
| 04:19.32 | Torhal | You know how religious people talk about the second coming, mckenziemc? |
| 04:19.36 | Torhal | III |
| 04:19.39 | Torhal | Fuck off. |
| 04:21.18 | airtonix | k |
| 04:21.39 | airtonix | meanwhile, in the future... it's friday. |
| 04:21.45 | airtonix | fucking robots |
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| 04:25.04 | mckenziemc | fucking reboots, eh airtonix? |
| 04:37.27 | karl_w_w | reboots mckenziemc into next week |
| 04:41.41 | airtonix | boot.. and reboot. |
| 04:41.53 | airtonix | gotta love round the twist |
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| 06:27.05 | FireSiku | Aswesome, Blizzard is un-nerfing the Water Striders. |
| 06:28.54 | Torhal | nerfs FireSiku in protest. |
| 06:29.51 | FireSiku | D: |
| 06:30.17 | FireSiku | I'm already weak as fuck. |
| 06:31.02 | Torhal | So if you're nerfed again, ou can't even make Ramen? |
| 06:31.09 | Torhal | :/ |
| 06:33.15 | FireSiku | Oh. Water Striders dont get water walking on Legion Broken Isles. |
| 06:33.23 | FireSiku | I should've finished reading that post |
| 06:33.48 | Torhal | Of course they don't. It's not water. It's LEGION water. |
| 06:34.09 | Torhal | Blizzard's whole suspension of belief model is infuriating at times. |
| 06:34.35 | Torhal | "We have no idea how to fix this, so we'll just do some shit that makes no sense whatsoever and claim it's 'balance.'" |
| 06:37.03 | FireSiku | "You can fly everywhere in the sky. Except that misty continent. Because there's mist in the air." Silly sure but whatever. "You cant fly here because there's...uh....emanating legion energies ...I guess" |
| 06:37.27 | FireSiku | Actually, that's too smart. "You cant fly here because your dragon doesnt know how to handle LEGION water." |
| 06:38.30 | Torhal | Yup! |
| 06:39.53 | Torhal | "You can't fly here because, well, we really didn't consider the far-reaching consequences of implementing flying to begin with/ Since we have no fucking clue how to make this shit right, we're just throwing our hands up in the air. Actually, no - we're waving jazz hands and trying our nascent Jedi Mind Tricks." |
| 06:41.41 | Trela | FFXIV does it reasonably well. You have to travel around the zone with a compass taking air current measurements before you can fly in that zone. Which means questing since stuff in half the zone will kill you on site. |
| 06:44.56 | Torhal | Trela: Still seems slightly far-fetched, but more grounded in reason than the Blizzard Approach. |
| 06:45.55 | Trela | Yeah. The idea is they reward you with flying by finishing the zone. |
| 06:46.03 | Trela | Blizzard: HOPE LOVE REPUTATION GRINDS. |
| 06:46.27 | Trela | Also, randomly picked daily quests that you may wait forever on to be able to finish an achievement. |
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| 07:29.38 | Torhal | You had one job, Cairenn. |
| 07:30.02 | Cairenn | ? |
| 07:30.13 | Torhal | Cairenn: http://the-daily.buzz/working-from-home/3/ |
| 07:30.18 | Cairenn | Oh |
| 07:30.19 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 07:30.21 | Torhal | :D |
| 07:30.31 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 07:30.32 | Torhal | I am now in that same boat. |
| 07:30.39 | Torhal | It kinda sucks. |
| 07:30.42 | Cairenn | nod |
| 07:30.53 | Cairenn | You're -always- at work. |
| 07:31.06 | Torhal | As in, I'm at the point where I go "Holy shit. I have to leave to do this? FUCK!" |
| 07:31.49 | Torhal | "If you ever are asked to come into the office, it is the worst thing ever. The office might as well be on top of Mount Olympus and guarded by the titans." |
| 07:31.54 | Torhal | Millions of times, THIS. |
| 07:31.57 | Cairenn | I'm at work from the moment I wake up until I go to sleep, with the exception of the few times I go out to do errands. And even then, ewww, I don't want to go out. |
| 07:31.58 | Cairenn | Yes |
| 07:32.27 | Torhal | Wait... You can leave the house, Cairenn? |
| 07:32.41 | Cairenn | As in-frequently as possible :p |
| 07:32.54 | Cairenn | but otoh, if I leave the house, I get a break |
| 07:33.11 | Torhal | Oh, ok. So it isn't a completely voluntary thing. I was beginning to think I was a complete weirdo since it's been two months for me. |
| 07:33.29 | Torhal | It's just like "Why the fuck would I want to do that? |
| 07:33.49 | Torhal | Especially since I have someone who can go get groceries and stuff. |
| 07:33.55 | Cairenn | Heh |
| 07:33.57 | Cairenn | I don't |
| 07:34.00 | Torhal | :/ |
| 07:34.15 | Cairenn | And I have a kiddo that needs to go places |
| 07:34.56 | Cairenn | It's both awesome and terrible, working from home |
| 07:35.06 | Torhal | It's really bad for me though, Cairenn, since my schedule is 2am to 12pm. |
| 07:35.29 | Cairenn | My schedule is I'm awake until I sleep until I wake again |
| 07:35.41 | Torhal | But you don't have a schedule. |
| 07:35.46 | Cairenn | Precisely |
| 07:35.48 | Torhal | That's kinda cool. |
| 07:35.54 | Cairenn | Which is bad in its own way |
| 07:36.05 | Xuerian | WHAT DAY IS IT |
| 07:36.15 | Xuerian | <robinwilliamssads> |
| 07:36.16 | Torhal | "I know you all need me really really really bad right now, but MUST PASS THE FUCK OUT FOR 16 HOURS!" |
| 07:36.16 | Cairenn | That, amongst other things, yup |
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| 07:36.30 | Torhal | I could hang with that. |
| 07:36.30 | Cairenn | That too |
| 07:36.55 | Torhal | This whole "You have to work 2am to 12pm and still function as a member of society" shit? |
| 07:36.56 | Torhal | Fuck that. |
| 07:37.47 | Torhal | Also, that whole bathing thing? |
| 07:37.54 | Torhal | My cats are good at reminding me of that. |
| 07:38.03 | Torhal | They fucking bite me if I get ripe. |
| 07:39.01 | Xuerian | I don't get the whole not bathing thing, job or not. I can't sleep dirty.. >_> |
| 07:40.05 | Torhal | Xuerian: When you're focussed on something (or many things) all day long, sleep eventually becomes one of those things that supersede all else. |
| 07:40.24 | Torhal | Then you wake up and your mind gets going, and the next thing you know you're doing shit again. |
| 07:40.30 | Cairenn | Yup |
| 07:40.54 | Torhal | You don't have to worry about going anywhere, so you don't need to take that step anymore. |
| 07:40.58 | Mr_Rabies | tormokk needs to chill out with his giant mount |
| 07:41.20 | Torhal | You NEED to, but WHEN you need to becomes a blur when everything else is a blur due to monotony. |
| 07:41.42 | Xuerian | Meh, I don't go anywhere. It must be the job that does it. Crushing self-disappointment just doesn't grip you like that for some reason |
| 07:42.43 | Xuerian | That whole on-call-whenever thing would kill me though. |
| 07:42.48 | Torhal | Also, Cairenn, if you like any of the Rolling Stones songs... this is an excellent cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEswEwiFLe8 |
| 07:43.22 | Cairenn | Who doesn't like the Rolling Stones?!?! |
| 07:43.32 | Torhal | ilitant assholes. |
| 07:43.36 | Torhal | Militant* |
| 07:55.40 | Fisker | I don't like rolling stones Cairenn |
| 07:55.49 | Fisker | They tried to assassinate Indiana Jones |
| 07:55.54 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:56.23 | Cairenn | It was just one big stone |
| 07:57.29 | nevcairiel | you mean dont judge all rolling stones by the actions of the one? |
| 07:59.57 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 08:02.58 | Fisker | It was still rolling though |
| 08:03.21 | Mr_Rabies | i can't say i'm a fan of this cover, Torhal |
| 08:03.30 | Mr_Rabies | but i've never much liked stonesour :< |
| 08:04.34 | Mr_Rabies | can't really compare to the original, though |
| 08:04.40 | Mr_Rabies | it's such a well-produced song |
| 08:24.22 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: pick openbox |
| 08:24.24 | jleclanche | thats what i use |
| 08:30.54 | haste | i3wm! |
| 08:31.29 | Phixion | i3 > |
| 08:31.54 | Phixion | hi5s haste |
| 08:34.49 | Fisker | Hey haste |
| 08:34.57 | Fisker | Hey Phixion |
| 08:38.26 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 08:38.35 | Fisker | Nexus 6P? |
| 08:40.41 | nevcairiel | I don't suppose you heard anything about them beta invites Cairenn? Mighty tease to open the signup so long before invites go out :D |
| 08:42.13 | Cairenn | He had thought he'd be able to get some in the next week. It didn't happen. /shrug |
| 08:42.57 | Fisker | betahugs Cairenn |
| 08:43.14 | jleclanche | Cairenn: legion or OW? |
| 08:43.30 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 08:43.36 | Cairenn | jleclanche: legion |
| 08:44.07 | Fisker | Overwatch addon invites :O |
| 08:44.14 | jleclanche | shrugs |
| 08:46.17 | Phixion | sure Fisker |
| 08:46.18 | nebula | have there just not been any new beta waves for legion? i don't remember the last time he said something about |
| 08:46.51 | nebula | s/he said/they said/ |
| 08:46.56 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:48.04 | Cairenn | Wow people can be stupid! Packing fireworks in your airline luggage. Along with cig lighters! |
| 08:48.23 | nevcairiel | well of course, you couldnt take them as carryon could you |
| 08:48.27 | nebula | what's wrong with that, what are the odds of it actually sparking |
| 08:48.37 | nebula | just need to pack the lighter properly |
| 08:49.04 | Cairenn | But to take them on the plane in the first place? |
| 08:49.06 | Cairenn | Stupid |
| 08:49.51 | Mr_Rabies | it wasn't that long ago that that was probably fairly common and 99% of the time perfectly fine |
| 08:49.52 | nebula | well yea :p pretty sure you're not suppose to fly anything flammable |
| 08:50.27 | Fisker | I find it kind of funny how you can't have guns in your carry-on according to the signs |
| 08:50.38 | nebula | on your person only |
| 08:50.44 | nebula | duh |
| 08:51.32 | Fisker | My feet are the coldest |
| 08:52.53 | nebula | https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/prohibited-items also no hand grenades or tear gas, just to be clear |
| 08:53.24 | karl_w_w | what big PC part stores have a sort by popularity option? |
| 08:54.33 | nevcairiel | those regulations probably apply to people that actually have a license to carry guns |
| 08:55.02 | Fisker | Probably |
| 08:55.08 | Fisker | Still weird though |
| 08:57.34 | Fisker | Think I'm taking one of those fancy direct flights next Blizzcon though |
| 08:57.50 | Fisker | Being stuck in France is the worst |
| 08:57.53 | Fisker | :D |
| 08:59.51 | nevcairiel | should be plenty available from copenhagen, no? i need to go to one more airport at least, not many long range international flights from here |
| 09:02.38 | Fisker | It's only been possible with the 787s I think |
| 09:02.44 | Fisker | So there's actually only like one |
| 09:03.28 | nevcairiel | most of my options would be over london or amsterdam |
| 09:03.57 | nevcairiel | some over france, but they take longer for some reason |
| 09:04.41 | Fisker | Weird |
| 09:04.52 | Fisker | There are layovers in Germany as I recall it |
| 09:05.08 | nevcairiel | yeah some options over frankfurt, but they cost a fortune |
| 09:05.21 | nevcairiel | and arent any faster |
| 09:05.32 | Fisker | Also I'm scared nevcairiel |
| 09:06.04 | nevcairiel | another option would be flying to newark directly, and from there to LAX |
| 09:07.00 | Fisker | I'm hoping we don't lose sideload in Android |
| 09:07.02 | VIad | the thought of 12 hours, ugh... only if someone roofies me and I wake up at the airport near blizzcon |
| 09:07.35 | nebula | stay away the night before and have a few drinks at the airport, problem solved |
| 09:07.39 | nebula | stay up* |
| 09:08.13 | nevcairiel | i went to australia once, everything else is childs play =p |
| 09:09.18 | VIad | I have no problem with not doing anything for longer periods of time. my problem is I feel bad on airplanes, confined space with tiny seats I dont fit in properly sitting between two whales talking across about manicure and me just trying not to murder them with the spork |
| 09:10.20 | VIad | maybe I'd like it more back with the luggage tbh, no people, maybe some dogs I can play with |
| 09:10.34 | nevcairiel | also frozen stiff? |
| 09:10.38 | VIad | poor dogs |
| 09:11.53 | VIad | I havent been on an airplane for 3 years |
| 09:12.20 | VIad | last time I landed major motion sick and just slept the rest of the day and through the night |
| 09:12.38 | VIad | I get bad headaches at worst from motion sickness |
| 09:12.52 | VIad | happens also from long drives |
| 09:13.55 | VIad | but yes, I believe sleeping might solve the issue. night flight |
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| 09:38.19 | VIad | I wonder if google will fix the issues with youtube that many complain about, fair use. |
| 09:38.41 | VIad | especially with redtube sub model, I wonder if it will at all ease anything or just make it worse |
| 09:38.59 | nebula | probably not, doesn't matter the reason, if someone files a dmca they target gets screwed over |
| 09:39.06 | nebula | the target* |
| 09:41.33 | VIad | its just once you get to a certain size it would be best if there was a buffer in between those wanting to sue you and you, where things could get sorted out without the channel being locked, stopped, banned, e.g. |
| 09:42.03 | VIad | just youtube #WTFU :p |
| 09:42.18 | VIad | plenty being said there by a lot of popular channels |
| 09:43.35 | Semlar | too big to fail |
| 09:43.56 | Mr_Rabies | until google decides they don't need it and cast it aside like so many other projects of theirs |
| 09:45.48 | FireSiku | There should be repercussions for frivolous DMCA claims though. Considering it's illegal to do so. |
| 09:46.54 | Fisker | They're not DMCA claims though |
| 09:51.26 | VIad | if you get 3 claims at once you get your channel banned instantly |
| 09:51.30 | VIad | regardless of outcome :p |
| 09:52.02 | VIad | a lot of things to hinder creators more and its too easy to claim what ever you want |
| 09:52.11 | VIad | I guess thats a good start at fixing the issue |
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| 10:04.52 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:05.44 | Xuerian | ... threat? |
| 10:05.55 | Semlar | it's on friendly players though |
| 10:06.06 | Semlar | i guess it could be the boss's threat on them |
| 10:06.06 | Xuerian | yes, their relative threat to target/tank target. |
| 10:06.54 | Semlar | it also doesn't match omen |
| 10:07.00 | Xuerian | DPS? |
| 10:07.02 | Xuerian | SWAG? |
| 10:07.12 | Semlar | it could still be threat and just not accurate |
| 10:08.16 | Semlar | it's kind of hard to tell since you can only read about one name on here |
| 10:08.57 | VIad | I am amazed that you can't afford more than a 800x600 monitor in 2016 |
| 10:09.03 | nevcairiel | Semlar: that screenshot is garbage, i dont want to see anythign on there =p |
| 10:09.04 | Semlar | i like the idea of Lord Jaraxxus being classified as a Demon Paladin though |
| 10:09.13 | VIad | 1024x768* |
| 10:09.15 | nevcairiel | VIad: its trial of the crusader, it could be ages old =p |
| 10:09.37 | VIad | I couldn't make out where it was just based on the floor tiles |
| 10:09.37 | Semlar | i don't know, i have screenshots from ToC and my interface wasn't quite this bad |
| 10:09.51 | VIad | some people |
| 10:09.53 | nevcairiel | my intereface never was quite this bad |
| 10:10.14 | nevcairiel | but some people still play such interfaces today |
| 10:10.14 | Semlar | >_> |
| 10:10.23 | Semlar | hey whatever works |
| 10:10.33 | nevcairiel | the problem is, those guys often also suck |
| 10:10.40 | Semlar | i use practically the default interface and still WIN THE DPS METERS |
| 10:10.54 | VIad | thread spedometers |
| 10:10.55 | nevcairiel | information overload is a prime reason for failing to actually react to the important things |
| 10:10.56 | VIad | funny |
| 10:11.00 | VIad | threat* |
| 10:11.29 | VIad | I have my screenshots since vanilla |
| 10:11.34 | VIad | going t ocheck my ui |
| 10:11.38 | VIad | this was 2013? |
| 10:11.46 | Semlar | more like 2006 |
| 10:12.02 | Semlar | i wish i had my older screenshots |
| 10:12.12 | nevcairiel | trial of the crusader launcehd in 2009 |
| 10:12.22 | VIad | end of 2008 was wotlk beta |
| 10:12.49 | Semlar | well i thought he meant vanilla |
| 10:13.17 | nevcairiel | vanilla didnt have omen |
| 10:13.21 | nevcairiel | that was invented in BC |
| 10:13.26 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1456481600.png |
| 10:13.51 | nevcairiel | and only really became good when the combat log was revamped in 2.4 or something |
| 10:13.52 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Hi8fe.jpg |
| 10:14.26 | VIad | seems like I had a larger monitor back then :p |
| 10:14.33 | VIad | was running at 1280 myself |
| 10:14.40 | VIad | most screenshots I see are 1024 |
| 10:15.15 | VIad | also I started wow at private servers |
| 10:15.16 | nebula | vanilla had something for threat, started with an a |
| 10:15.23 | VIad | month later I bought the game :D |
| 10:15.54 | VIad | nebula: you mean the 3 sunder rule? |
| 10:16.09 | Semlar | yolothreat |
| 10:16.19 | VIad | we just used the sunder rule, worked all the time |
| 10:16.30 | Semlar | i used FD |
| 10:16.33 | nebula | oh, KTM |
| 10:16.41 | nebula | thats it, klh threat meter |
| 10:16.50 | VIad | was hunter in vanilla too, FD was awesome |
| 10:17.00 | Semlar | that's how i beat those stupid warlocks in karazhan |
| 10:17.00 | VIad | swapped to tank in tbc because it was more fun :D |
| 10:17.15 | Semlar | i could just feign and keep going |
| 10:17.24 | VIad | yes |
| 10:17.50 | VIad | earliest picture I got is from 2005-09-27 |
| 10:18.24 | nevcairiel | threat was ridicolous back then, we had a hunter afk autoshot once because door bell or something, and he pulled aggro |
| 10:18.24 | VIad | if you want I can send you my screenshots, Semlar |
| 10:18.29 | VIad | since you are missing yours |
| 10:18.39 | nevcairiel | that was in BWL |
| 10:18.42 | Semlar | no that's okay |
| 10:19.00 | Semlar | maybe your tanks should have threat harder |
| 10:19.15 | nebula | tanking with no pants so you got more rage to heroic strike more |
| 10:19.16 | Semlar | or maybe you should have promoted your hunter to tank |
| 10:19.22 | VIad | deep wounds debuff purging the sunder debuff |
| 10:19.32 | nevcairiel | that hunter actually re-rolled to warrior an expansion later, so we did =P |
| 10:20.21 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1456482015.png |
| 10:20.35 | VIad | ^ me like 2 weeks after starting to play |
| 10:21.07 | VIad | already exploring orgrimmar, good times |
| 10:21.55 | VIad | I am 14 year old, wow |
| 10:22.08 | VIad | #feelsweirdman |
| 10:24.03 | nebula | i lost all my old screenshots :\ only have starting midway through ulduar |
| 10:24.13 | Semlar | 26 silver |
| 10:24.25 | nevcairiel | i was never into taking many screenshots |
| 10:24.46 | nebula | yea, same, most of mine are random ui shots when i was working on something or boss kills |
| 10:26.03 | Semlar | accidentally hit print screen during a boss fight, lock up for 3 seconds |
| 10:26.24 | VIad | IRL I never take pictures |
| 10:26.29 | VIad | but ingame I am a screenshot whore |
| 10:26.42 | VIad | I push that button more than enough times |
| 10:26.43 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.22 | nevcairiel | you sure have a bunch of buttons |
| 10:28.03 | Semlar | well it's important to have every single tracking spell on your hotbar |
| 10:28.13 | nevcairiel | the time wow went live i also just switched to my first LCD screen, 17" at 1280x1024 |
| 10:28.15 | Semlar | and raptor strike |
| 10:28.27 | FireSiku | I have a friend who's a screenshot whore on Steam. They're able to take crazy screenshots that you only have a fraction of a second to take. I asked them what key they rebound the screenshot button to for quick access and they're like "I'm using F12" :| |
| 10:29.35 | FireSiku | You're kinda mean to have called your pet useless :( |
| 10:29.49 | Semlar | not wrong though |
| 10:30.53 | nebula | that's a fake, there's a distinct lake of mushrooms |
| 10:30.58 | nebula | lack* |
| 10:31.04 | VIad | bind space to screenshot |
| 10:31.13 | Semlar | i miss having aimed shot, kill command, scatter shot, silencing shot and rapid fire all at once |
| 10:31.58 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1456482712.png |
| 10:32.07 | VIad | my old ui looks cleaner than my current :p |
| 10:32.33 | Semlar | i feel like your screenshots look blurry |
| 10:32.46 | VIad | its because at some point wow stored jpgs |
| 10:32.49 | VIad | at like 80 compression |
| 10:32.58 | VIad | no wait it was tga |
| 10:33.04 | VIad | then I converted it all to jpg (harddrive space issues) |
| 10:33.07 | nevcairiel | tga is lossless though =p |
| 10:33.09 | VIad | but I didnt use 100% on the jpg |
| 10:33.14 | VIad | so some quality was lost |
| 10:33.18 | nevcairiel | so you only have yourself to blame |
| 10:33.23 | VIad | I was 16 |
| 10:33.28 | VIad | :p |
| 10:33.31 | nevcairiel | stil are |
| 10:33.32 | Semlar | did you resize them or something |
| 10:33.35 | VIad | I am 17 now |
| 10:33.44 | VIad | no same size. I just played window mode |
| 10:33.51 | VIad | and maximize that |
| 10:33.55 | VIad | so some height is lost |
| 10:34.00 | Semlar | this is 1205x921 |
| 10:34.12 | VIad | thats just me cropping it badly |
| 10:34.25 | VIad | pidgin has a screenshot thing I click and select the image I am looking at :p |
| 10:34.30 | VIad | lazy to upload the file itself |
| 10:34.49 | VIad | source is 1280x979 |
| 10:35.03 | VIad | 45px height for the title and taskbar |
| 10:36.05 | nevcairiel | my UI is slated for a revamp, its been the same for like 3 expansions now |
| 10:36.29 | nevcairiel | probably longer =p |
| 10:37.06 | VIad | I usually start clean each expansion |
| 10:37.27 | VIad | feels good to get rid of a lot of old stuff, update, maybe do stuff a bit different |
| 10:37.39 | Semlar | ironically i've had to make tweaks to the default interface to keep it how i like it because they keep changing things |
| 10:38.01 | Semlar | like when they made the map fade out every time you move |
| 10:38.08 | Semlar | that's really annoying to me |
| 10:38.17 | nevcairiel | even if i would start clean, it would probably end up rather similar to how it was before :D |
| 10:38.28 | nevcairiel | Semlar: isnt there an option for that |
| 10:38.32 | Semlar | yeah |
| 10:38.37 | Semlar | but it's hard to find |
| 10:38.51 | Semlar | and it's on by default |
| 10:39.09 | Semlar | i don't like the quest log being merged with the map either, but i never bothered using an addon for it |
| 10:39.26 | Semlar | if i ever really did any quests i might |
| 10:42.22 | Semlar | oh http://i.imgur.com/AsVAq4m.jpg this is what i was looking for |
| 10:43.06 | nevcairiel | i got used to the quest map, its not too bad |
| 10:43.22 | nevcairiel | there are plenty addons already out there that split it again if one really wanted that |
| 10:43.32 | Semlar | i have something that keeps switching the map randomly |
| 10:43.42 | Semlar | which makes trying to use the quest log a huge pain in the ass |
| 10:43.49 | nevcairiel | should find what that is |
| 10:44.27 | nevcairiel | all my things stop any map crazyness when the worldmap is shown |
| 10:45.11 | nevcairiel | or at the very least try to avoid breakign the worldmpa in the process by unregistering events =p |
| 10:46.25 | Semlar | calls SetMapToCurrentZone OnUpdate |
| 10:46.30 | nebula | http://imgur.com/a/bxgmy my ui hasn't changed all that much, lol |
| 10:46.43 | Semlar | you're in space |
| 10:46.59 | nebula | saving the world |
| 10:47.02 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/YoRPRvY.jpg |
| 10:50.28 | Semlar | i was clearly doing this wrong if i did twice as much damage and got half as much honor as anyone else |
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| 10:51.30 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/RpeRG1m.jpg here we go, "freezing arrow" |
| 10:51.41 | Semlar | i had completely forgotten about this |
| 10:52.09 | Maldivia | Semlar: it was their bonus BG, but not yours? |
| 10:52.32 | Semlar | who knows, they might have gotten more for being near an objective but i don't think that applies here |
| 10:53.27 | Semlar | before they added trap launcher we actually had completely separate spells to shoot traps at range |
| 10:58.08 | Semlar | i think one of my favorite things about nameplates having unit IDs is going to be being able to see which mobs i'm locked in combat with |
| 11:20.42 | VIad | Semlar: your nameplates can be even better now with unitids |
| 11:21.04 | VIad | can make visualization beams of in/out heal/dmg among the nameplates |
| 11:21.41 | VIad | thinking just concepts now, excluding what is practical |
| 11:22.01 | VIad | for example grouped up players and boss doing aoe ability you can then visualize who will get hit before the ability finishes casting |
| 11:22.04 | Semlar | yeah, i had that built into it a long time ago but getting the GUID is unreliable right now |
| 11:22.41 | VIad | stuff like aoe pulsing around you, can easily make nameplate tell you that you are too close to that person |
| 11:22.43 | Semlar | you aren't supposed to have enemy positions so you couldn't really do that |
| 11:22.48 | VIad | can maybe move the whole minimap onto the nameplates |
| 11:23.10 | VIad | minimap like archimonde lines and such |
| 11:24.35 | VIad | Semlar: did they increase nameplate range? |
| 11:24.44 | VIad | or we just talked about how we wanted them to do that |
| 11:25.04 | Semlar | i don't have access |
| 11:28.28 | Semlar | i won't know what they've changed until i get into the beta |
| 11:29.01 | Semlar | unless they went out of their way to fix that i kind of doubt they did |
| 11:29.14 | VIad | imo wowui should be on the priority invite list :p |
| 11:29.41 | Semlar | i think cairenn told them not to invite me |
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| 11:30.01 | nevcairiel | its better for the good of humanity this way |
| 11:30.14 | Cairenn | lol |
| 11:31.40 | VIad | Semlar will expose all the bugs and make them embarrased |
| 11:31.45 | VIad | bad PR, better not invite him |
| 11:32.58 | Semlar | i want to put every piece of information you can get about a unit from its unit ID on the nameplate at once |
| 11:33.14 | Semlar | so the screen is just covered with text |
| 11:33.48 | Semlar | bring back vanilla level raiding UIs |
| 11:33.55 | VIad | :D |
| 11:34.26 | VIad | subscribe each nameplate to CLEU and filter by guid and have fun all the info |
| 11:34.30 | VIad | mini-combat log above the nameplates |
| 11:34.42 | VIad | last 10 significant log lines |
| 11:34.55 | VIad | not sure if the cpu can handle it |
| 11:35.03 | Semlar | sure it can |
| 11:35.06 | VIad | lets check |
| 11:35.18 | Semlar | there's like mikk's scrolling combat text for nameplates or something already |
| 11:36.31 | VIad | using platebuffs since ages, it shows me debuffs and such on nameplates |
| 11:36.43 | VIad | ofc it has tons of code to try detect what unit the nameplate belongs to |
| 11:36.54 | VIad | usually have to target/mouse to properly register it and keep the plate onscreen |
| 11:37.01 | VIad | but that wont be a issue in legion, hurray |
| 11:37.10 | VIad | its awesome for pvp |
| 11:37.17 | VIad | to easily spot specific buffs/debuffs |
| 11:37.43 | Semlar | i should attach an entire 3D model of the unit to its own nameplate |
| 11:37.53 | Semlar | this is going to be great |
| 11:38.59 | Mr_Rabies | put a tiny nameplate over it |
| 11:39.00 | Mr_Rabies | too |
| 11:39.19 | Semlar | nameplateception |
| 11:39.30 | VIad | you should do that for april fools addon |
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| 11:42.30 | Semlar | i still want to be able to resize the clickable area of friendly and enemy nameplates separately, i don't know if that's going to be a possibility yet |
| 11:42.42 | Semlar | because i want to be able to SEE friendly nameplates, but not click on them |
| 11:43.05 | Gnarfoz | and healers might want it the other way around |
| 11:43.11 | Semlar | yeah |
| 11:43.37 | Semlar | it's useful to be able to see both, but you'd rarely want to be able to interact with both during combat |
| 11:43.37 | nevcairiel | a healer that clicks on nameplates to heal deserves to be banned =p |
| 11:44.10 | nevcairiel | "oh sorry, you moved and your nameplate went out from under my mouse, i healed myself" |
| 11:47.21 | Semlar | i'm going to make an addon that keeps track which players your healers like more based on how much they heal them |
| 11:48.02 | nevcairiel | most healers heal themself the most |
| 11:48.03 | VIad | would be nice when raid healing so you know who other healers favorize |
| 11:48.13 | VIad | maybe focus those that get less healing :p |
| 11:48.21 | Semlar | pfft in my experience healers completely ignore themselves |
| 11:48.27 | VIad | ^ |
| 11:48.33 | Semlar | including myself when i'm healing |
| 11:48.40 | VIad | suddenly #ohshitImdying |
| 11:49.00 | Semlar | priorities, you understand |
| 11:49.23 | VIad | healers will give their life to save the scrub dps |
| 11:49.28 | VIad | tank* |
| 11:50.12 | Semlar | sadly they removed divine intervention so you can't literally kill yourself to bubble someone any more |
| 11:50.58 | VIad | oh I miss that |
| 11:51.03 | VIad | warsong gulch |
| 11:51.14 | VIad | standing in their base immune to dmg |
| 11:51.19 | VIad | fun times |
| 11:51.36 | VIad | new meta |
| 11:51.41 | VIad | AB do that with 3 people |
| 11:51.46 | VIad | base capped entire game |
| 11:51.48 | VIad | :o |
| 12:01.56 | VIad | I remember being in bubble made you unable to do stuff and you couldnt cap things :p |
| 12:05.02 | Semlar | in my experience it was generally used to bubble someone right next to where the boss spawns so they could aggro it again while people were running back from a wipe |
| 12:09.26 | Xuerian | And/or blow tank aggro and force a wipe :] |
| 12:10.08 | Semlar | it was mostly to save the paladin a repair bill, rather than bubble someone in a convenient location |
| 12:10.28 | nevcairiel | blessing of protection was already enough to blow the tank |
| 12:10.56 | Xuerian | Yeah, but sac had the added advantage of killing you faster |
| 12:14.06 | Gnarfoz | VIad: it still does |
| 12:14.49 | Semlar | divine intervention rooted you in place and prevented all action for like 6 minutes |
| 12:14.51 | Gnarfoz | also, HoP never did anything to the threat table, you're just being skipped over for a bit because you're immune to melee |
| 12:14.58 | Gnarfoz | sure, but that's been gone for years |
| 12:15.15 | nevcairiel | yeah mob just running away from you, might as well have lost all threat =p |
| 12:15.18 | Semlar | and then you got yelled at for hacking someone because they couldn't figure out how to cancel a buff |
| 12:15.28 | Gnarfoz | click it off or wait for it to expire and the boss comes right back |
| 12:15.41 | nevcairiel | by the time you cancel it, it probably killed a melee or two |
| 12:15.42 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 12:15.52 | Gnarfoz | melees are expendable |
| 12:16.06 | nevcairiel | says the melee |
| 12:16.10 | Semlar | that's what they're there for |
| 12:16.13 | nevcairiel | but you are probably the paladin that handed out the HoP anyway |
| 12:16.16 | Semlar | cannon fodder for the ranged |
| 12:17.34 | nevcairiel | in before Semlar is survival in legion |
| 12:17.48 | Semlar | i will literally always play the highest damaging spec for my class |
| 12:17.58 | Semlar | i don't care what it is |
| 12:18.25 | Semlar | i'm not sure how they're going to tune survival |
| 12:18.41 | Semlar | i hope they don't make it a second class melee dps |
| 12:19.47 | nevcairiel | they should accidentally destroy hunter dps for once, maybe the population balances a bit again then, 50% of all wow players being the same class is a bit silly |
| 12:20.13 | Semlar | i don't know, hunters haven't traditionally been the TOP damaging class |
| 12:20.34 | Semlar | it tends to be mages, rogues, warlocks and such |
| 12:20.48 | nevcairiel | at least in wod they have been consistently good |
| 12:21.00 | nevcairiel | i dont remember mop, didnt play much then |
| 12:21.04 | Semlar | yeah, they're generally consistently good |
| 12:21.22 | Semlar | not that you can't be the top dps in your group, but if you were playing another class you might have a higher potential |
| 12:21.54 | Semlar | the thing about hunters is they're flexible enough to be good on probably every fight |
| 12:22.18 | nevcairiel | except on iron reaver, he is a consistent hunter killer |
| 12:22.19 | Semlar | whereas other classes will be good on one particular fight and worse on others |
| 12:22.55 | Semlar | the first time we killed iron reaver i was top damage but that's not really saying much |
| 12:23.19 | nevcairiel | ever since i found out that iron reaver targets healers with barrage, i go find the most likely to die hunter and cuddle |
| 12:23.30 | Semlar | wait what |
| 12:23.49 | Kalroth | :D |
| 12:23.54 | Semlar | so it's the healer's fault.. |
| 12:24.08 | nevcairiel | some people use that to cheese it, stack healers left right, all dps behind the boss, and dps never have to move |
| 12:24.18 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.13 | Semlar | refreshingly we only have 4 hunters in this one |
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| 12:51.50 | foxlit | hm, I wanted an offline installer for battle.net and stuff. |
| 12:55.24 | foxlit | as opposed to the "download our 3MB self-installer that will download the 100MB app that will download the 15GB game" |
| 12:56.47 | tz | and then re-download a large proportion when you rerun it |
| 12:56.54 | Semlar | first world problems |
| 12:57.23 | foxlit | first world problems is correct, though probably not in the sense you had in mind. |
| 12:57.43 | Semlar | yeah, you'd never be without internet access |
| 12:57.51 | Semlar | clearly a third world problem |
| 13:20.12 | foxlit | shitty internet access is a first world problem :P |
| 13:20.53 | Semlar | that doesn't sound right |
| 13:32.02 | VIad | no one likes offline installers, kind of lame. |
| 13:32.18 | VIad | I've too wanted to bring some software to a machine where the net is bad, but cant download in advance at home :( |
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| 14:03.07 | Gnarfoz | it's not like Blizzard games actually rely on being installed, you can just copy them around |
| 14:03.58 | VIad | thats what I did back with wc3 |
| 14:04.02 | VIad | I just had to backup the registry |
| 14:04.19 | VIad | just made a bat file import the entries based on where I had put the game files at |
| 14:04.30 | VIad | had to otherwise updates didn't work since they rely on those |
| 14:04.47 | VIad | beats having to install via cd, back in those days cd was slow :( |
| 14:05.49 | Gnarfoz | CD is still slow |
| 14:06.11 | Gnarfoz | 150 KiB/s * how many times your drive is |
| 14:06.51 | VIad | it's ok I amped up the voltage on my CD drive to make it quicker |
| 14:13.49 | Gnarfoz | Voltage is not measured in Amps |
| 14:13.51 | Gnarfoz | :O |
| 14:14.33 | VIad | technobabble |
| 14:14.48 | VIad | isnt "amped up" an expression too? |
| 14:16.46 | VIad | time for birthday :d |
| 14:17.01 | VIad | Ill see you later in legion. I have a feeling we get the beta invite tonight. |
| 14:29.04 | Gnarfoz | VIad: happy birthday? ^^ |
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| 14:33.00 | nevcairiel | friday night seems like an unlikely day for invites |
| 14:33.11 | nevcairiel | but i dare them to prove me wrong |
| 14:38.44 | Fisker | Overwatch got invites today I think |
| 14:38.49 | Fisker | But they're already gone out as well |
| 14:38.54 | Fisker | they've* |
| 14:42.02 | fewyn | why don't i have an overwatch beta yet |
| 14:42.05 | fewyn | :( |
| 14:42.16 | mckenziemc | because you know Fisker |
| 14:42.29 | fewyn | who? NAME DOESN'T RING ANY BELLS |
| 14:50.23 | Semlar | ~fiskerslap fewyn |
| 14:50.31 | purl | ACTION slaps fewyn around a bit with Fisker. |
| 14:50.32 | Semlar | hmm |
| 14:52.36 | mckenziemc | ~whalecrush Semlar |
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| 15:41.35 | fewyn | oh god i forgot how horrible older SD shows can look |
| 15:42.52 | nevcairiel | thats not really SDs fault though, properly mastered DVDs can still look quite good |
| 15:43.03 | nevcairiel | usually your pirated copy of them is just extremely overcompressed :p |
| 15:44.24 | fewyn | there's no good copies of this show probably |
| 15:44.34 | fewyn | they aren't even on dvd i think |
| 15:44.41 | fewyn | (the drew carey show) |
| 15:44.47 | fewyn | it has a problem because it uses a lot of music |
| 15:47.02 | Gnarfoz | also, it has Drew Carey :D |
| 15:49.07 | fewyn | what's wrong with drew carey |
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| 17:43.40 | Fisker | hey Seerah |
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| 17:44.08 | Seerah | hey, Fisker |
| 17:45.34 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
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| 19:56.24 | Semlar | neffi i almost had a heart attack because the usps website said my package was undeliverable and it was being returned to sender |
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| 19:57.05 | Semlar | they left it outside though |
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| 23:16.57 | VIad | Gnarfoz: thanks. conveyed that to my brother! :D |
| 23:18.05 | VIad | windows 10 sound mixer keeps resetting my volume :/ ugh |
| 23:19.58 | Stanzilla | lolwindows10 |
| 23:28.01 | VIad | windows xp for life |
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| 23:42.15 | tz | 2k > xp |
| 23:47.24 | Stanzilla | xp < 10 < * :D |
| 23:49.59 | zenzelezz | Me4lyfe |
| 23:54.47 | Neffi | installs ReactOS on Semlar's computer. |
| 23:57.49 | End | within a minute of finding out wowinterface has an upload api, do I manage to break it... :( |
