IRC log for #wowuidev on 20160223

00:34.48FireSikuI built a computer for someone last week. This morning he called to say that he smashed the power button in, and now it wont work.
00:35.50FireSiku.
00:36.55NeffiI wonder if those two things are related
00:42.23kullervoI used to start up one of my computers by prodding the mobo with a screwdriver
00:43.28kullervovery safe
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00:46.48tzI prod it with something else
00:49.04kullervolewd
00:49.54tzfinger, jeez, dirty mind
00:52.04Semlarlewd
00:52.59kullervofeeling the unprotected parts with your fingertips
00:53.17kullervomaking sure your fingers are just moist enough
00:56.48pompyhttps://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12687851_971577186212969_7779463431075152552_n.jpg?oh=fa81a85666c6162e737de38944315f98&oe=57709A9D
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01:26.37Arrowmasterso have a new laptop and im trying to decide if i want to install linux directly onto it and use KVM for virtualization or try out ESXi for the first time
01:41.45AmarandeArrowmaster: how about xen?
01:42.40Arrowmasterknow nothing about it and dont really see the point of it when i could use either of the other two right now
01:43.36tzjust install haiku and make sure it's a useless computer
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02:44.19kullervoI just did the steamVR test, this gpu needs upgrading but I'm not going to get the first release vr device anyway
02:44.50kullervowhile at it, I also found out I can see the 3d without glasses
02:44.55kullervoand yes, it's physically painful
02:44.58AmarandeVR seems kind of meh
02:45.27Amarandeit's neat, but it flies in the face of economics and gamer demographics
02:47.09Amarandemainly a) it needs pretty high end graphics and CPU gear that won't come down to a mainstream affordable level for some years (even longer, perhaps, if AMD Zen does not save the company and competition drops out)
02:48.44Amarandeb) VR more or less seems to imply you can be absolutely dedicated to the game while you're playing it, essentially no room for being able to interact with other things (well, except the advertising that will probably get shoved down our throats before long) ... gamers are on average getting older with more responsibilities, that's less and less viable
03:07.03kullervohttp://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/vrperftestviewer_2016-02-23_05-06-59.png
03:07.06kullervohmhmh
03:08.13Amarandekullervo: exactly what I said about high end graphics and CPU gear
03:08.31Amarandeis there any single graphics card that actually makes it into the green yet besides the 980 Ti (at least nVidia side)? heh
03:21.50XuerianThe R9 390 does, though that's not nvidia..
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03:22.31Amarandeyeah, I'm a bit foggy on the current alignment of nVidia and Radeon performance
03:22.35AmarandeI still have a 770 in the gaming tower
03:23.47Xueriankullervo: Try doing crosseye 3d in a real game (I tried with the avatar game..) that supports it, on two 22"+ monitors
03:24.10XuerianIt looked pretty good, but it was a little painful >_>
03:27.21Amarandebut yeah, even if the hardware side isn't an issue ... we're an aging cohort, and the total immersion of VR isn't really compatible with the external responsibilities of adult life :S
03:28.27XuerianOnly if you have one of those.
03:29.08kullervoblaaah still not over 1m auction value. Could force it by increasing post caps but... Wouldn't mean anything.
03:39.01Amarandeseriously, if this is distributed by popularity, people have terrible taste
03:39.19Amarandelooking at laptop skins for this model, and two of the first four are football teams
03:39.34Amarandethat, in and of itself, is unremarkable, but do they have to be the bloody cowboys and steelers? :(
03:42.47Fiskeraccidentally hugs Cairenn
03:46.26Cairennhugs Fisker
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04:41.55Simcaspeaking of computer hacks, my uncles came over yesterday with my grandma's computer when i was getting ready for bed and wanted me to fix it with what i had on hand. it would POST but no video (so I assumed video card was the issue).
04:42.40Simcaher PC was one of those mini form factor cases that won't accept normal-sized PCIE cards
04:43.16Simcaso I took a radeon HD 6450 I had lying around, took a hacksaw to it, and cut part of it off
04:43.23Simcathen it fit, and it works.
04:43.33Simcataped it into the socket with electrical tape
04:44.02Simcaand said this is what you get for trying to make me do computer repair on the spot at night
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04:44.30XuerianHad to lop the shroud off a old nvidia card and screw the fan to the sink to get it in one of those backwards dell cases
04:44.35kullervoso you did a hard hack
04:47.23Simcahttp://media.bestofmicro.com/A/F/288087/original/Radeon-6450-Outputs.jpg this is why cutting was viable
04:47.31Simcawho needs VGA ports anyway
04:50.07Semlarhax
04:50.19kd3|hate`netliterally
05:06.11ccoxsteamVR: windows only == lame
05:06.55kullervois that confirmed?
05:08.15Simca'windows only' meaning it doesn't even run on their own OS?
05:08.23Simcaor is that implied
05:08.47ccoxtheir performance test is Windows only
05:08.57ccoxand all the details I can find are Windows only
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05:18.13Amarandewow, that's like jackpot for a hellfire ammy ... http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Amarande-1330/hero/73605941
05:18.30Amarandedex roll is horrid but everything else is *perfect*
05:20.50kd3sigh. https://imgur.com/Y1KyyaD
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05:42.47tzsteam locks up when I try to install it from the store
05:42.48tzawesome
05:45.30SemlarStanzilla: did you see that i made an edit box that doesn't lag when you paste text into it
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05:54.15tzyay http://i.imgur.com/rHo8Ayb.png
06:15.15karl_w_wlooks like kd3 is not prepared
06:17.50kullervohaa I thought I had the channel's worst
06:21.50karl_w_whttps://i.imgur.com/IZbTl0p.jpg
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06:47.54StanzillaSemlar: nope, where?
06:48.14Semlarmm last night
06:48.57Semlarsomeone was asking about edit box lag and i had no idea how bad the game handled that
06:51.24Semlari think i might write a fake edit box that only accepts pastes
06:51.54mckenziemcpastes Semlar to Torhal's litter box.
06:59.55StanzillaSemlar: neat, circular progress is in main WA now btw
07:00.04Semlar^_^
07:05.32StanzillaSemlar: thanks for your help there btw
07:05.57Semlarsure
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08:32.35XuerianVIad: you wanted to know what I was doing? A single desktop/mobile (safari, mainly) leftnav/header/content -> header/nav/content css-only site layout at least approximately centered with two-column content that will shift to interpolated single-column content when appropriate
08:32.37Xuerianglglgl
08:33.14VIadsounds like @media is your friend and min-width
08:33.47XuerianYeah, doing it on a set of two main min-width query stages right now with judicial usage of inline-blocks
08:34.16VIadtbh only reason it's fiddly is if you want all browsers to be nice and show it properly. I hate css hacks.
08:34.26XuerianNO JOKE
08:34.43VIadbut luckily, unless you do fancy stuff, pure layouts work usually
08:34.50VIadI can recommend looking into the display:grid css3
08:35.05VIadthere is some "new" grid system around that google uses a lot, but others start to catch up too
08:35.09VIadprobably not ie11 :p
08:35.27Stanzillaflexbox
08:35.32VIadso you'd need your @media if you want ie11 to work as well... again, hate hacks
08:35.34Xueriantbh it's mobile safari that's the biggest concern, small amount of traffic with like 40% on idevice
08:35.51XuerianSo I think flexbox is still out of the picture for a couple years
08:36.04Xuerianunless I'm mistaken
08:36.13VIadI haven't used it much myself
08:36.22VIadbecause it's too new to be properly supported imo :p
08:36.48Xuerianyeah, and I don't understand it myself yet anyway
08:36.51VIadsure, if you make something for yourself/chrome users, fine. if you want it to be accessible for everyone, you need to think about those 10% ie11 users
08:37.14VIadI recommend making the site, by default, act like a mobile site
08:37.24VIadthen @media min-width rules for the larger screens
08:37.48VIadI guess its a preference thing. I just found it easier to think in that order :p
08:38.02VIadlast thing you want is mixing some @media for small and some for larger screens, gets messy to track
08:38.35Xuerianprobably would work well, on looking at it again I'm going the other direction but barring the common "Oh look, I can finally do it the right way. *hack hack hack* Oh look, I broke three other pages." it's coming out alright
08:39.09VIadcode > test > refractor > repeat
08:39.28VIadI meant refactor*
08:39.45Semlarcode > release > consider fixing what people complain about
08:40.04nevcairieltoo bad Semlar never gets beyond stage 1
08:40.21Semlaroh right there's only one step to this
08:40.52VIadwonder if that will change if he ever makes a sentient AI
08:41.03nevcairielsome people have some pride in their own work and want it to work well =p
08:42.06Semlari'm satisfied if it doesn't immediately error out
08:42.39XuerianI follow the "Oh hey, a random complaint, let me fix OH GOD IT BROKE EVERYONE ELSE CHANGE IT BACK" methodology
08:43.23XuerianNever quite as interesting as semlar projects though :|
08:43.24VIadif legion makes the main bag resizeable then bag addons will have fun implementing that. I guess there are a lot using static values atm
08:43.36VIadsounds like a easy fix but we will have to see I guess
08:43.47VIaddunno if its already live in beta yet, the main bag change they spoke about
08:43.57XuerianWasn't the backpack size one of their hairiest things for some arcane reasons?
08:44.17Semlarbackpacks are complicated
08:44.23VIadsomething about arrays
08:44.45nevcairieli dont think they are ever going to make the main bag changeable =p
08:44.58nevcairielits just not worth the development time
08:45.31nevcairielthey elaborated on what could go wrong in one of the developer panels
08:45.37Torhal~emulate Semlar
08:45.38purlACTION tries to calm #wowuidev down.
08:45.51VIaddon't they sql query bro?
08:45.54Semlar~emulate cairenn
08:45.54purlACTION purrs
08:46.06Cairennpurrs
08:46.11Torhallol
08:46.15Semlargently pats cairenn
08:46.21Cairennpurrs more
08:46.30VIad/me Vlad pats Cairenn.
08:46.37Semlargently pats vlad
08:46.41TorhalJust give up, VIad
08:46.43Cairenngiggles at vla
08:46.48Cairennvlad*
08:46.49TorhalYour ability to /me is gone.
08:47.02VIadit's a dlc I can't afford atm
08:47.24nevcairielTorhal: he doesnt even know how to do it anyway, he includes his own name in the message <.<
08:47.35TorhalThere is truth to this.
08:47.59VIad>.>
08:48.04TorhalI bet he's sitting on a telnet client inputting raw IRC protocol commands.
08:48.26tzPONG
08:48.26nevcairielthen it wouldnt be so hard to do actual /me actions
08:48.45VIadisnt irc plain text?
08:48.51VIadthe actual protocols
08:48.51nevcairielit is
08:50.02nevcairielmost classic internet protocols are  plain text
08:50.09VIadhttp is as well
08:50.31VIadGET / 403 Forbidden
08:50.58TorhalClassic.
08:51.04TorhalHTTP is a '90s protocol.
08:51.44VIadwonder if we will ever evolve the web protocol for efficiency or just improvements. maybe having states and not being stateless?
08:51.52nevcairielstates are bad
08:52.00nevcairielmakes everything so much more complex
08:52.00XuerianMmm, 418
08:52.43VIadjust feels we should be able to make it better, considering http as is and cookies to keep states is a product of the 90s and it's been over 30 years now
08:53.00Semlarwait what year is it
08:53.10nevcairielVIad cant math
08:53.10Semlardid i oversleep
08:53.12VIad2026
08:53.25XuerianWell, google's doing the faster loading things I forget the name of
08:53.38Xuerianand doesn't 2 have a bunch of bundled request/resource stuff?
08:53.47nevcairielgoogle has varies approaches to that
08:54.06nevcairielhttp/2 adds much improved pipelining by allowing the server to just tell you which data you might need in one request
08:54.20nevcairieland of course they have their http over udp protocol to reduce latency
08:54.54VIadhttp over udp sounds scary
08:55.11nevcairielits called QUIC, look it up =p
08:55.22VIadbroadcasting your banking data over udp, what if someone else snags it up?
08:55.36nevcairielyou seem to lack basic understanding of basic internet technologoies
08:55.49VIadI said sounds
08:55.51nevcairieli shall go away and find more appropriate conversation elsewhere
08:56.31VIadI need to refactor yesterdays code anyway
09:00.45TorhalI knew this conversation sounded familiar:
09:00.47Torhal[05:04:52]  <nevcairiel>you should really know how wow works by now =p
09:00.49Torhal>.>
09:00.59TorhalWell, similar.
09:01.15nevcairiela Semlar conversation?
09:01.24Semlar._.
09:01.36Semlarwhat did i do
09:01.55TorhalHe's a conversion of laziness to calm.
09:03.15Torhalrewrites Semlar in Rust.
09:03.24TorhalNot knowing Rust, I'll just say I'm sorry.
09:05.28Semlardies
09:33.12Stanzillao.o
09:40.52Semlarhere stanzilla http://pastebin.com/SLntX7Nd
09:44.14Semlaras far as i can tell, drawing a font string is just really resource intensive
09:44.37Semlarso when you make a giant font string it locks up the game until it's finished rendering
09:45.30Stanzillaso the magic is the buffer?
09:46.38Semlarthe magic is from limiting the length of the font string the edit box is allowed to draw, then using OnChar to capture what's being pasted
09:47.01Semlarsince you need the whole text, but you don't want it to be displayed
09:47.05Semlarat least not at once
09:47.19Stanzillayeah that's what I meant with buffer
09:47.47Semlari used a table instead of just repeatedly concatenating onto one string because it's a lot faster this way
09:48.44Semlarit's important to note that OnChar does not fire for everything that might get inserted into a text box, like line breaks, but i don't think that's a problem for weak auras
09:49.54Stanzillathe thing is, we use AceGui for everything, not sure if that mixes well
09:50.04nevcairieldefine your own widget =p
09:50.49Semlarwell, you're pretty much setting a hidden edit box as your focus, letting them paste into that, and then displaying that however you want
09:51.03Semlari only put a font string up there as an example
09:51.54Semlarto make it look kind of like an edit box
09:52.54Semlari thought this would be useful since i've seen people write like entire interface replacements and export them as one string
09:53.13Semlarand the game cannot handle trying to paste 100k characters into an edit box
09:53.51Stanzillayeah
09:54.13Semlar<PROTECTED>
09:55.39StanzillaI think it is an AceGUI MultiLineEditBox
09:57.15Stanzillatbh it might just make sense to add that "hack" to the widget itself if more people can benefit from it, WA might be the only addon that handles such large pastes though
09:57.21Stanzillaalso nevcairiel there is mop compat code in there
09:57.24Stanzillaplease
09:58.01nevcairieli dont think such a hack has a place in the generic GUI widget, its meant for actual user interfaces, not a big paste box, that use-case is very specific
09:58.20nevcairielalso, why touch whats not broken!
09:58.45Semlaryeah it's pretty much only designed for pasting huge blocks of text
09:59.08Semlarand then limiting how much is displaying
09:59.43Stanzillawell one could just copy paste the standard widget and add semlar's functionality and shit it as a custom widget, right?
09:59.47Stanzillaor is that against license rules
09:59.55Stanzillas/shit/ship :D
10:01.16Semlarit could probably be modified to incrementally add the text to the edit box over time to keep it from locking up completely but still functioning as a normal text box
10:01.38Semlari'm not sure how well that would work though considering just how much it lags
10:06.49Semlari think very few addons run into this issue though
10:07.33Stanzillayeah
10:08.00Stanzillawould make sense as a custom widget then
10:25.32Simcafont string rendering might have changed significantly in legion
10:25.51TorhalThey did a huge overhaul on the font subsystem.
10:26.03TorhalOne of the big things is it's no longer capped at size 32.
10:27.04FireSikuThis is very relevant to my interests, since i planned to have an "interface export to string" function.
10:27.25FireSikuI have a hard time thinking about what could benefit from using Size 48 font and so on.
10:27.38Semlari'm afraid i can't help with exporting, except maybe recommending you write the string incrementally
10:27.45TorhalWell, that was a side-effect of the overhaul, but it's been a pain point for some people for years.
10:29.10Semlari've wanted to use larger than the max font size on a few occasions
10:29.15Semlarit really isn't that big
10:29.16FireSikuSemlar: Well, it won't help with exporting, but it means that they need the ability to import it too. Which was planned to use a MultiLineEditBox.
10:30.02Semlarmostly for making large number displays
10:30.41FireSikuWe can finally have that Mega Damage addon.
10:33.35Semlar<PROTECTED>
10:34.05Semlari have to use textures because fonts can't be drawn large enough
10:34.54Semlargranted from what i've seen textures are a lot more efficient than using fonts for this anyway
10:45.56FireSikuFancy
10:48.45Semlaralright you can't really write the string in increments, it has to redraw everything regardless
10:50.20Semlaryou could make separate font strings and stick them together but you wouldn't be able to highlight them as one string
10:57.30Semlarah i found a way to do it
10:58.29Semlarif you don't give the edit box a font object you can still call SetText on it with a giant block of text, then call SetFocus() and SetHighlight(0) and even though you can't see anything you can still copy out of it
10:59.32Semlari suspect this probably works for pasting as well
11:00.29Semlarthe only downside is you're working with an invisible text box
11:01.14Stanzillathat is not very transparent
11:01.16Stanzillaget it?
11:01.50Semlar:(
11:15.20Semlardoesn't look like pasting into an edit box without a font object stops it from lagging, which makes it confusing to me that SetText doesn't lag
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12:50.14VIadbtw why isnt there a guideline on wowui/curse when you go to the create addon page/upload files? a small section for tips. for instance, I find the global checker script to be so awesome, I use it for all my addons to check if I am setting global variables somewhere, so that I know what I am doing in the global scope. I fear this is a issue many don't think about in their addons and it is bound to cause someone a headache :p
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13:13.49VIadsays it was written by Mikk
13:14.05VIadnot sure if its someone we know, but its a handy script
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19:01.15TorhalVIad: The babble is strong with you.
19:01.22VIad:D
19:01.27TorhalI have no idea where one idea ended and another begun, there.
19:01.53TorhalStraight form a guideline on project creation to Mikk'
19:01.59TorhalMikk's script.
19:02.17TorhalAnd if you were in #wowace, you'd know him. Well, not anymore since he no longer seems to do IRC.
19:02.56nevcairielhe has vanished mostly in general
19:03.09TorhalEh, still logs in to the site.
19:03.35nevcairielgives him points that way ?ü
19:03.36nevcairiel=p
19:03.42TorhalThis is true!
19:04.21VIadseveral hours in between. also loose cannon.
19:04.32TorhalWelcome to "this is how IRC works!"
19:04.42VIadI sadly don't remember much of the wowace era as I didn't start with lua and such until later.
19:04.49VIadI did love how wowace was easy to use to update addons.
19:04.58nevcairielnot many people from the old days still left
19:04.58VIadlightweight program that worked
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19:06.54nevcairielheh someone killed mmo-champion.com
19:07.06VIadoh nice
19:07.26nevcairieli bet it was one of Torhals cat, clogging up the gears with hair balls
19:10.51VIadnsfw http://imgur.com/gallery/IiokTwU
19:14.48FiskerStop right there VIad
19:14.54VIadI stopped
19:18.22VIadhttp://imgur.com/gallery/MonZqNR
19:18.57VIad^ nsfw
19:19.02VIadalligators
19:19.12nevcairielthose guys are f'ing lazy
19:19.28VIadone of them did something naughty
19:22.43VIadbtw is it true that bernie is so far behind hillary in the polls?
19:23.00VIadI googled and this is what I got https://www.google.no/search?q=us+election
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19:40.31UnkleDepends on the poll and the state and the time of the poll.
19:41.12VIadwhy is google purposefully not updating the results+
19:42.03Unklehttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/dem_pres_primary/
19:42.12VIadis google bought by trump?
19:42.27UnkleDon't make me punch you via the internet
19:43.08TorhalUnkle: If you develop that ability, please be responsible and use it on Amarande first.
19:43.09TorhalThanks.
19:43.22bsheldeniChoke-U sales never did pick up, I'm afraid.
19:44.02UnkleTorhal: I find your lack of faith... disturbing.
19:44.09Torhal:O
19:44.29VIadif you google and get weird graphs it does imply something, might affect unsure people to just go with what seems popular - and trump looked very popular in the graph :p
19:46.00VIadnot sure what to call it, when you google something and just take the first thing you see as fact and the ultimate truth and cba to research more
19:46.13TorhalI believe that's called "Dumbass."
19:46.28VIadso a ton of dumbasses will se trump in first spot then
19:48.34VIadthe manchurian candidate is awesome
19:48.35VIadgreat movie
19:49.56VIadI had to find it from my stash
19:50.10VIadwish netflix would let me pay extra for more movies. like renting dvds
19:50.34VIadatm if netflix doesnt have it then though shit. can't even pay more to get it, kind of lame. wonder why.
19:51.07VIadsure I can buy it for like $2 from a discount bin online but I'd rather pay that to stream it because lazy.
19:52.42UnkleYou can try Amazon
19:54.43FiskerI once tried Amazon
19:54.43VIadlike buy, or stream?
19:56.31VIadthey took your liver, Fisker?
19:56.48FiskerNope
20:03.35VIadam I the only one with such fondness of that movie? :<
20:08.14zenzelezzwhich one?
20:08.23VIadthe manchurian candidate
20:08.58zenzelezzyou're supposed to capitalize names so they're easy to spot
20:09.04zenzelezzbut yes, it's a good movie
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20:22.15VIadit did poorly in the box office, kind of shame. $16mil profit is not a big thing if you had a $90 budget
20:22.19VIad80*
20:23.24TorhalI'd say $16mil is a hell of a profit if the budget was $90, VIad.
20:23.43VIad80m budget, 96m box office
20:23.47Torhal:D
20:23.59nevcairielif you break even, you win?
20:24.27VIadsome movies make like four times their budgets
20:25.00VIadthe standard block buster for instance, many do that, yet a good movie can just barely break even, kind of shame
20:25.26VIadno wonder they make a lot of hyped explosion action films when they make more in the box office than smarter movies I guess
20:28.55VIadwiki asked for a donation, tried going over 100k but it told me there is something wrong with my amount :( I want to donate a billion
20:29.15VIadshould mail them a cheque maybe
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20:33.50VIadI can't wait to code for legion seriously
20:34.00VIadlong lua break, now finally time to get the passion again
20:34.07VIadupdate, then remake some of my addons
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22:02.53pompyhttp://gamerant.com/espn-league-of-legends-reference/
22:12.56VIadkarl_w_w: can't win any games since winter event, when I started playing dota again
22:12.59VIad1 win like 20 loss
22:38.28VIadhope legion adds a nice dungeon like grimrail, I loved the effect they did on it :)
22:38.33VIadah right we got the boat one
22:39.29kullervogrimrail and the ridiculous aoe burst opportunities
22:41.34VIadbit lame violet hold was a remake, same layout :p
22:41.42VIadwould be fun if we went to a new area or something
22:43.24VIadoh you can mouseover auras on top of the nameplates
22:43.35VIadshows the tooltip :)
22:49.31kullervomeh ofc it's the same place
22:49.41VIad:D
22:49.49kullervobut does it work differently?
22:49.55kullervois it fast now?
22:49.57VIadnot really
22:50.03VIadthink of violet hold when it was new
22:50.05VIadonly slower
22:50.12kullervoHOW CAN IT BE SLOWER?
22:50.17VIadnah, I dunno :p
22:50.18kullervoIT WAS THE SLOWEST DUNGEON EVER
22:50.25VIadits still pretty slow
22:50.29VIadjust trash is more interesting
22:50.32kullervoMY PALADIN HAD TO WEAR NO GEAR IN ORDER TO NOT RUN OUT OF MANA, BECAUSE IT WAS TOO SLOW
22:50.42VIad8 waves between each boss
22:50.46VIaddo math
22:50.51VIad1 min per wave
22:50.56VIad40 min run probably
22:50.59kullervoI'm never going to do that
22:51.18kullervolike I'm seriously just going to leave instantly if a random dungeon procs vh
22:51.23VIadxD
22:52.24VIadwe need to see how it becomes past beta
22:53.25VIadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiEXgpp37No&list=PLuKg-WhduhkksJoqkj9aJEnN7v0mx8yxC&index=8
22:55.35Semlarrip
22:56.07VIadsipo
22:56.10VIadrip*
22:56.11VIadbed time :D
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