| 00:01.27 | fewyn | yeah nevcairiel |
| 00:01.42 | fewyn | i bought them all from newegg several years ago |
| 00:02.04 | fewyn | the whites are different on one of the monitors |
| 00:11.34 | nevcairiel | you know there is ways to correct for that |
| 00:12.59 | fewyn | how exactly? i tried playing with colour profiles and stuff |
| 00:13.03 | fewyn | and they didn't seem to work |
| 00:13.10 | fewyn | unless i am doing it wrong |
| 00:21.50 | Arrow|work | get a color calibrator |
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| 00:34.45 | Stanzilla | RIP Graves |
| 00:35.01 | Stanzilla | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20742234402 |
| 01:06.40 | Semlar | Stanzilla: http://gfycat.com/TalkativeJampackedHorsechestnutleafminer |
| 01:07.13 | Stanzilla | how many textures? |
| 01:07.21 | Semlar | 4 |
| 01:07.30 | Stanzilla | not bad |
| 01:07.40 | kullervo | damn son |
| 01:09.20 | Semlar | it makes a texture for each quarter |
| 01:09.32 | Semlar | and one scrollframe with a rotation in it |
| 01:10.08 | Semlar | the red part is the scrollframe moving around |
| 01:11.17 | Semlar | i need to clean this up though, it's kind of messy from trying to figure out how to get it working |
| 01:26.41 | Neffi | scrollframe with rotation? |
| 01:26.42 | Neffi | is that new? |
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| 01:30.18 | Semlar | well i'm rotating something inside the scrollframe, not the frame |
| 01:31.46 | Neffi | wasn't there already a method for doing this using just SetTexCoord and a few textures? |
| 01:32.27 | Semlar | gently pats neffi |
| 01:32.33 | Neffi | goes to slep |
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| 01:34.46 | relaxok | Semlar: i need to pick your brain about scrollframes sometime soon |
| 01:34.53 | Semlar | ._. |
| 01:35.03 | relaxok | o_o |
| 01:46.15 | Seerah | o.O |
| 01:58.03 | znf | you should pick Semlar's brain in regards to nameplates |
| 01:58.04 | znf | so, Semlar |
| 01:58.11 | znf | what fancy things are you going to make for Legion? |
| 01:59.22 | Semlar | i feel bad about mentioning my ideas because i never turn them into addons |
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| 02:01.43 | Semlar | plus it's hard to say what we can actually do without having access to it |
| 02:02.17 | Semlar | if we really do have unrestricted access to unit IDs for nameplates, there's a lot of things we could do |
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| 02:23.03 | nebula | what do you mean "unrestricted access"? like full api returns using the nameplate token? |
| 02:26.13 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/N0jivLl.png |
| 02:26.22 | znf | when your team gives up because "omfg, nobody picked a tank or a healer?!?!?" |
| 02:26.30 | znf | yet I took the core to 80% myself :-/ |
| 02:27.16 | Semlar | nebula: yeah i mean using every function on it that you can normally use with a unit ID and accessing it through the restricted environment |
| 02:28.18 | nebula | you can get the name, class, health, power, and buff info, seems like they're going to basically work like a real unit, similar to target or focus |
| 02:29.09 | znf | :o |
| 02:29.20 | Semlar | right now you can get the position of a nameplate on screen inside of the restricted environment |
| 02:29.46 | Semlar | so if you also have a unit ID to go along with that, it means you can react to the unit's position on screen |
| 02:30.20 | Semlar | which means you could do things like change how tab targeting behaves |
| 02:31.19 | Semlar | eg. only have it target units that are toward the middle of your screen or restrict how far out it will go to cycle |
| 02:31.24 | Stanzilla | new ptr patch |
| 02:31.37 | nebula | not really sure how that would adversely affect anything |
| 02:32.00 | Semlar | i didn't say it would, but it's something you can't really do right now |
| 02:33.25 | Semlar | plus with the ability to make enemy unit frames you may be doing less tab targeting anyway |
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| 04:09.01 | karl_w_w | what's that word which is similar to obscure but means how you describe something rather than what you're describing? |
| 04:10.49 | karl_w_w | obtuse |
| 04:10.51 | karl_w_w | good stuff |
| 04:14.59 | pompy | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us20004z5b |
| 04:18.22 | mckenziemc | not a very good description of obtuse o.o |
| 04:19.02 | mckenziemc | obviates Torhal with karl_w_w. |
| 04:20.26 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: www.thefreedictionary.com/abstruse ? |
| 04:22.12 | Amarande | baroque? byzantine? |
| 04:22.36 | Amarande | I'm guessing you're referring to the style of description as seen in, for instance, the quotations on https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/franklink-k-young-chess-books ? |
| 04:22.48 | mckenziemc | obtuse was a good enough synonym for you, Amarande |
| 04:28.24 | karl_w_w | obtuse, "difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression" |
| 04:29.14 | mckenziemc | that would be abstruse o.o |
| 04:30.06 | karl_w_w | no that's different |
| 04:30.35 | karl_w_w | abstruse is difficult to comprehend because the subject complicated |
| 04:30.51 | mckenziemc | idk about that |
| 04:32.18 | mckenziemc | perhaps the nuances are too esoteric :O |
| 04:32.59 | karl_w_w | did you just read the wiktionary entry? :P |
| 04:33.09 | karl_w_w | "Difficult to comprehend or understand; recondite; obscure; esoteric." |
| 04:33.20 | mckenziemc | no |
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| 04:33.41 | karl_w_w | I'm pretty sure that's the difference |
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| 04:35.36 | mckenziemc | maybe it's an aussie thing |
| 04:36.51 | mckenziemc | diarrhea A-KO|toilet? |
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| 04:55.50 | Torhal | avenges karl_w_w by vivisecting mckenziemc with Amarande. |
| 04:58.59 | mckenziemc | are you obtuse too Torhal? |
| 04:59.20 | mckenziemc | divides Torhal's inner angle by 2. |
| 05:00.13 | Torhal | removes mckenziemc's sine, using it to replace the one he took from Semlar. |
| 05:01.14 | Semlar | i'm not cosining for that |
| 05:02.30 | mckenziemc | o.O |
| 05:02.40 | karl_w_w | I'm acutely aware of that Semlar |
| 05:03.20 | mckenziemc | let's not go off on a tangent please |
| 05:03.36 | mckenziemc | :( |
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| 05:25.19 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn overwatchingly |
| 05:25.33 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 05:27.16 | mckenziemc | oversees Fisker's stabbing and hugs Cairenn. |
| 05:27.23 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 05:27.29 | Fisker | \o/ |
| 05:27.31 | Cairenn | errr, mckenziemc |
| 05:27.41 | Cairenn | errr, everyone :p |
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| 05:30.37 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 05:30.51 | mckenziemc | also i just got outsmarted by a creeper :( |
| 05:31.21 | kd3 | they tend to do that |
| 05:34.32 | mckenziemc | hey Fisker |
| 05:34.37 | mckenziemc | want some squid droppings? |
| 05:34.41 | mckenziemc | i found them by a waterfall |
| 05:34.52 | karl_w_w | progress on the overwatch download keeps stopping |
| 05:35.25 | karl_w_w | it'll go like 20 minutes without updating how much is left to download then it will jump like 800 mb |
| 05:36.16 | Simca | the best part is that if you haven't been invited, it won't tell you until the download finishes |
| 05:43.47 | Simca | (I was invited to that one beta weekend event and maintained my install since then, so it updated today and the hovertext on the play button disappeared, so i thought i might have made it in... until the update finished and the hovertext that I wasn't invited came back) |
| 05:44.14 | nebula | i just went to my battle.net account page |
| 05:44.24 | nebula | for that reason |
| 05:45.05 | karl_w_w | surely you'll know if you're invited from the email they send you saying you're invited |
| 05:46.19 | Semlar | congratulations, you're (not) invited! |
| 05:49.44 | Simca | karl_w_w: yes, the one you'll get about 3 weeks after they invite you |
| 05:50.13 | Simca | watching your email is a good way to miss out a lot of time in blizzard betas |
| 05:50.20 | Simca | and the worst way to know if you are in |
| 05:51.00 | karl_w_w | I've never had an email be later than the invite |
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| 05:51.10 | Simca | because you've never noticed |
| 05:52.11 | karl_w_w | definitely not |
| 05:52.41 | karl_w_w | although I've only had 3 invites |
| 05:52.56 | Simca | in terms of reliability, the hierarchy is something like: ability to post on alpha/beta forums (zero delay) > battle.net account management (little delay) > ability to install on battle.net app (up to 1 hour delay depending on the app's last request time) > emails (delays between 2 hours and 2 weeks, random) |
| 05:54.00 | karl_w_w | I guess I've been lucky then |
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| 05:55.07 | Simca | seems to depend on the team too. I think D3 is the one I'm thinking about where the email was really really really late |
| 05:55.17 | karl_w_w | I watched for my invite to the annual pass expansion, I got my hearthstone invite too early for it to be delayed by much more than a couple of days, and I doubt they sent me an overwatch invite when there was no beta open |
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| 07:42.51 | FireSiku | Sigh, I wish I had better internet. |
| 07:43.05 | FireSiku | Uploading 2gb video, 5 hours remaining |
| 07:54.33 | Semlar | the pain of uploading to youtube |
| 07:56.07 | Semlar | my favorite part about that is how maxing out my upload bandwidth apparently means i also can't do anything else |
| 07:58.17 | Xuerian | Netlimiter or similar is a godsend for that kind of situation |
| 07:58.52 | Xuerian | Cap it just below actual and it won't crap out |
| 07:59.35 | Semlar | yeah, i really need a way to throttle it |
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| 09:13.17 | karl_w_w | what are sprays? |
| 09:13.49 | VIad | tbh routers in general also need a fair way to throttle network on the clients. for instance my friend has crappy net, and if everyone is on youtube 1080p videos then it kind of dies :p |
| 09:14.27 | VIad | should be throttled so that every client has a minimum speed available so it doesnt die completely. |
| 09:14.55 | VIad | maybe even set upper limits to the up/down hmm |
| 09:15.16 | VIad | I am certain some routers have these options but should be part of every router, just like how radio is a part of your car regardless :p |
| 09:15.25 | VIad | or AC |
| 09:18.39 | Trela | On video, I just tried to open the 2009 Avatar movie in VLC. VLC vomited and crashed. |
| 09:19.19 | VIad | probably torrented a badly put together container and/or encoded version :p |
| 09:21.57 | Trela | It worked before. I think VLC just objects to playing it. |
| 09:23.38 | karl_w_w | because it's VLC |
| 09:23.39 | VIad | as long you arent discussing private servers |
| 09:25.28 | Mr_Rabies | vlc is kinda bad at playing a lot of video |
| 09:25.34 | Mr_Rabies | it's a decent backup |
| 09:25.39 | Trela | O_o wat |
| 09:25.41 | VIad | I personally haven't had much issues with it |
| 09:25.42 | Mr_Rabies | if something doesn't play in anything else, but |
| 09:25.54 | Trela | VLC plays anything that Kodi won't. |
| 09:26.06 | Mr_Rabies | vlc is pretty bad in general in comparison to say, CCCP plus media player classic |
| 09:26.13 | VIad | only hack I had to apply was to change rendering to use opengl so colors werent too bright :p |
| 09:26.23 | FireSiku | I love MPC-HC |
| 09:26.24 | Mr_Rabies | but i so rarely run into anything those won't play with |
| 09:26.34 | VIad | I used mpchc before |
| 09:26.39 | Trela | OS X. My options are VLC or Kodi. |
| 09:27.02 | Mr_Rabies | vlc is especially bad for anime stuff |
| 09:27.20 | Mr_Rabies | http://i38.tinypic.com/34gkavn.jpg |
| 09:28.03 | VIad | I guess its the opengl fix |
| 09:28.03 | Trela | Odd, I do not have that problem. |
| 09:28.15 | Trela | Also, why do you use TinyPic? Their site is broken. |
| 09:28.18 | Mr_Rabies | mostly because the anime subgroups do some pretty cutting edge stuff to their files oftentimes, that vlc just hates |
| 09:28.21 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't |
| 09:28.21 | VIad | oh I dont have that problem :p |
| 09:28.28 | Mr_Rabies | it's just a screenshot i found |
| 09:28.31 | Trela | Ah. |
| 09:28.34 | Mr_Rabies | was too lazy to download vlc |
| 09:28.42 | Mr_Rabies | and try to find a file that broke with it |
| 09:28.57 | Trela | ...2010. |
| 09:29.06 | Trela | It says 2010 in that. |
| 09:29.27 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/Guknl.jpg |
| 09:29.32 | Trela | That was before VLC fully support x264 and/or some of the crazy stuff anime groups were doing. |
| 09:29.37 | Trela | *supported |
| 09:29.58 | VIad | reason I used mpchc was it was part of cccp, but some day it made issues with some video, worked on vlc so used vlc, and havent had issues since so change back to mpchc :p |
| 09:30.10 | VIad | I am quite simple, I change if there are issues. if not, what ever. |
| 09:31.11 | Mr_Rabies | they may have fixed some of it by now but i'm very happy with cccp's output |
| 09:31.19 | Trela | Actually now VLC is just doing its thing were it locks because reasons. |
| 09:31.21 | Mr_Rabies | then again, i've also had no issues with kodi, generally |
| 09:31.30 | Mr_Rabies | but i'd never use kodi as a desktop media player |
| 09:31.41 | Mr_Rabies | i use it for playback on devices |
| 09:31.45 | Trela | *locks up |
| 09:31.54 | Mr_Rabies | firetv and steam link, respectively |
| 09:31.55 | Trela | I use Kodi for my HTPC setup. |
| 09:31.57 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 09:31.59 | Mr_Rabies | specifically |
| 09:32.00 | Mr_Rabies | my brain |
| 09:32.12 | Trela | Kodi + Android tablet remote = So lazy. |
| 09:32.21 | VIad | I dont own a mac |
| 09:32.27 | VIad | just putting it out there |
| 09:32.34 | Mr_Rabies | steam link isn't super great but since the pc is rendering it i don't have to re-encode 10-bit video |
| 09:32.35 | VIad | /me places gun on the table. |
| 09:32.49 | Trela | No one really owns their Apple hardware, silly. |
| 09:33.06 | Mr_Rabies | there's a bit more banding on steam link than native playback but i rarely use it anyway |
| 09:33.15 | VIad | you paid a hefty sum just to borrow an apple pc? |
| 09:33.23 | Trela | More or less. |
| 09:33.32 | Mr_Rabies | it worked pretty well for genma wars/harmagedon, though, until the audio bug popped up 2 hours in |
| 09:33.39 | Mr_Rabies | where it shoves everything through the subwoofer |
| 09:33.41 | VIad | bet somewhere in the contract you signed when installing itunes was that apple can backsies and not pay you back |
| 09:33.59 | Trela | I should make a video of my HTPC setup and how the remote works. |
| 09:34.30 | VIad | I use unified remote, it's very nice for controlling my pc |
| 09:34.40 | VIad | or multiple pcs |
| 09:34.56 | Mr_Rabies | it was a very pretty movie where basically nothing happened, so pretty standard for the time period it came out http://45.media.tumblr.com/a944833ea2eb987e54637966c2135190/tumblr_mza46lyWI21qzqnxxo1_500.gif |
| 09:35.20 | Mr_Rabies | i made a custom controller profile for the steam controller for kodi |
| 09:35.29 | Mr_Rabies | and i love it, but i need a small amount of work to perfect it |
| 09:35.48 | Mr_Rabies | it's not actually mine, it's a friend's, so i don't get a ton of time to tinker with it |
| 09:36.03 | Mr_Rabies | it's really the only time i've actually liked using the steam controller |
| 09:36.06 | Mr_Rabies | otherwise it's pretty awful |
| 09:39.08 | VIad | I bought a xbox 360 controller with usb wire to use for my pc gaming |
| 09:39.19 | VIad | mostly because I wanted it when playing my ps2 emulated games :p |
| 09:39.57 | VIad | my only issue, not sure if its controller related, my palm gets numb after a while :( |
| 09:40.08 | VIad | anyone else get numb palms? |
| 09:40.44 | nevcairiel | i use a wireless 360 controller at the PC and its been fine |
| 09:41.03 | Mr_Rabies | nope, and i played MGSV for like 50+ hours in a week with the same setup, vlad |
| 09:41.13 | Torhal | It's the wire, VIad - sapping the energy from your hand nerves. |
| 09:41.21 | VIad | yeah |
| 09:41.26 | VIad | I should get a wireless one |
| 09:41.32 | Torhal | >.> |
| 09:41.38 | Mr_Rabies | some people have a weird controller grip |
| 09:41.41 | Mr_Rabies | maybe you're one of those |
| 09:41.41 | VIad | <.< |
| 09:41.49 | VIad | I definetly hold it weird :D |
| 09:41.51 | Mr_Rabies | the friend that owns the steam link/ steam controller does |
| 09:42.09 | Mr_Rabies | he has a claw grip and presses the top of the buttons with a fingertip |
| 09:42.22 | VIad | I didnt have these issues with the original xbox controller because it was so large my whole hand was kind of stretched out all the time :p |
| 09:42.54 | VIad | the new one is smaller so I often end up holding it at weird angles and then feel it in my palm |
| 09:43.38 | Mr_Rabies | my right thumb either rests on the analog stick or the face buttons most of the time |
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| 09:43.52 | Mr_Rabies | between all 4 of them, and i rock the thumb topress the button |
| 09:43.54 | VIad | I think I grip it too hard |
| 09:44.21 | Mr_Rabies | sometimes i'll use the side of a finger to do it if i need to use the face button and right analog stick heavily at the same time |
| 09:44.28 | VIad | I am that person that grips harder when immersed |
| 09:44.38 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really get immersed, generally |
| 09:44.43 | VIad | like how I push the keys on my keyboard harder as well :p |
| 09:44.48 | Mr_Rabies | the one exception so far being metal gear solid v |
| 09:44.57 | Mr_Rabies | the big, recent one |
| 09:45.02 | VIad | if the game is entertaining I get immersed easily |
| 09:45.08 | VIad | maybe why I enjoy movies and games so much |
| 09:45.19 | Mr_Rabies | i really did feel like i was living the daily life of a legendary soldier in the 80s |
| 09:45.38 | Mr_Rabies | and it made certain elements of the story 1000x more amazing because i felt so much like big boss |
| 09:45.47 | Mr_Rabies | i played all the other mgs games and didn't feel immersed |
| 09:46.10 | Mr_Rabies | i was just watching snake do things in cutscenes after getting to control him in non-storyline stuff |
| 09:46.12 | VIad | if I dont get immersed its usually because I find it boring, thats not fun |
| 09:46.34 | Mr_Rabies | almost every other game i'm just aware i'm playing a game |
| 09:46.36 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really care |
| 09:46.52 | Mr_Rabies | but there were times in MGSV where i was so immersed i forgot to eat |
| 09:46.54 | VIad | sounds you could get more out of your money then :p |
| 09:46.55 | Mr_Rabies | and drink |
| 09:47.18 | VIad | no clue why some of the words disappear when I type atm >.< |
| 09:47.34 | VIad | should be a "like" somewhere |
| 09:47.54 | Mr_Rabies | the slavic part of your brain just annexed part of the english part |
| 09:48.24 | VIad | I hope not. I live in norway :p |
| 09:48.28 | Mr_Rabies | oh derp |
| 09:48.53 | Mr_Rabies | i was thinking like former ussr/current russia area for some reason |
| 09:48.57 | Mr_Rabies | well then the viking brain |
| 09:49.09 | Mr_Rabies | pillaged the anglo part of your brain |
| 09:49.13 | VIad | well I use the name vlad so can't blame you |
| 09:49.27 | VIad | often mistaken for russian in dota :p |
| 09:49.33 | VIad | then they rage in russian when I dont speak russian |
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| 09:50.24 | VIad | there must be a better way https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/20994/Util.lua#32 |
| 09:50.35 | Mr_Rabies | come up with some stories from the motherland, about the time your mother had to fight a bear drunk on vodka |
| 09:52.11 | VIad | ah guess its supposed to lock at 90 increments |
| 09:52.50 | VIad | hmm, performance wise, smarter to use while rather than for ? |
| 09:52.58 | VIad | saw the tDeleteItem and tContains use while |
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| 10:07.42 | Trela | Whoops, when I said Avatar earlier, I meant The Last Airbender one. |
| 10:13.08 | VIad | lol |
| 10:13.17 | VIad | easy to mix those up |
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| 10:14.49 | FireSiku | Who thought it was a good idea. |
| 10:15.50 | VIad | using sharepoint in office 365 atm, fun fact, apparently fields that are labelet required, or set to require certain way to input data, apparently does the checks front end only :p |
| 10:16.17 | VIad | using REST I can just say "write X to Y" and regardless if its invalid, as long its either null (to delete) or the valid type of object, it accepts it |
| 10:16.20 | nevcairiel | VIad: those are while loops because they modify the table while iterating, for wouldnt work, its not performance |
| 10:17.05 | VIad | nevcairiel: ah right. he deletes all the items that match |
| 10:17.09 | VIad | not only one |
| 10:17.17 | VIad | but tContains doesn't modify though |
| 10:23.53 | VIad | I guess its just preference |
| 10:24.39 | VIad | just feels fine to for loop if you only need to check if something exists, since you only do one table lookup each time, while uses two, one to check if it should keep looping and one to compare |
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| 12:32.49 | VIad | curse client crashes very rarely,but sometimes. anyone else or just me? :o |
| 12:59.11 | Gnarfoz | it's just you |
| 13:02.40 | VIad | hmm |
| 13:02.45 | VIad | null pointer error, dang |
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| 14:07.45 | karl_w_w | points at VIad |
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| 14:11.30 | VIad | karl_w_w: got into beta? |
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| 14:21.48 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 14:23.38 | VIad | awesome! |
| 14:23.39 | VIad | I am queued |
| 14:23.43 | VIad | coming to get you, karl_w_w |
| 14:23.51 | VIad | steal your addons |
| 14:23.52 | karl_w_w | im not |
| 14:35.47 | VIad | I knew about the nameplate changes, but they also added nameplate# unit ids? |
| 14:36.06 | VIad | if that is the case, feels amazing, like someone heard me whine about that for the last years and implemented it :p |
| 14:36.21 | VIad | knowing development I guess it was on the todo list since end of wotlk |
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| 16:14.27 | fewyn | rip my can opener is ded |
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| 16:18.57 | Maldivia | is your can opener named Rip ? |
| 16:19.31 | fewyn | it's called i want to take a sledgehammer to it |
| 16:19.41 | Gnarfoz | use an angle grinder instead |
| 16:19.50 | Gnarfoz | I heard they're universally useful |
| 16:19.55 | nevcairiel | not every problem can be solved with angle grinders |
| 16:20.22 | Gnarfoz | prove it |
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| 16:20.33 | Maldivia | yeah, sometimes when you use an angle grider on a problem, you end up woth two problems instead |
| 16:20.36 | nevcairiel | still having the lag spike issue? |
| 16:20.41 | nevcairiel | I'm willing to give it a try |
| 16:21.06 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: divide and conquer |
| 16:21.19 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: give it a try, how? |
| 16:21.26 | nevcairiel | angle grind the nic chip out |
| 16:21.27 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:21.38 | Gnarfoz | well, I guess that's worth a try |
| 16:21.54 | Gnarfoz | I only disabled it in UEFI, that could well leave it "enabled" in some way :p |
| 16:21.59 | Gnarfoz | removal is the only way to be sure :D |
| 16:22.54 | nevcairiel | so that didnt help? |
| 16:23.35 | nevcairiel | what kind of NIC did you install as a replacement? |
| 16:25.44 | Gnarfoz | I tried: the Intel 82579V (or whatever it is), the other on-board NIC (RTL 8111e?), an add-on pci-e card with a Broadcom chipset and an addon pci card with a (different) Realtek chipset |
| 16:26.10 | Gnarfoz | each with the others as "disabled" or "removed" as possible (i.e. uefi off for the on-board ones, not installed for the cards) |
| 16:26.38 | nevcairiel | and it remains? |
| 16:26.41 | Gnarfoz | yea |
| 16:27.11 | Gnarfoz | the only short moment of apparent improvement was when I went back to the Intel NIC with the 20.4? drivers and it didn't happen for quite some time |
| 16:27.15 | Gnarfoz | but that was apparently just a fluke |
| 16:27.44 | nevcairiel | so much for that |
| 16:28.03 | Gnarfoz | I kind of gave up. I made the necessary change (DisablePagingExecutive) to be able to grab xperf traces on x64, but I never did that |
| 16:28.10 | Gnarfoz | also didn't try remote debug thing |
| 16:28.30 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure if that's even possible, but maybe it's qBittorrent's fault |
| 16:29.06 | Gnarfoz | who knows, it uses libtorrent (-rasterbar, I think), and has its own caching things |
| 16:29.28 | Gnarfoz | (but why does LatencyMon point to ndis.sys and tpcip.sys all the time? is it a red herring?) |
| 16:33.16 | Simca_ | probably |
| 16:34.16 | Simca_ | it just means that there is an issue with one of the services running through those files |
| 16:34.39 | Gnarfoz | hm? |
| 16:34.48 | Gnarfoz | what "services" are you thinking of |
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| 16:35.05 | Gnarfoz | LatencyMon analyses ISR and DPC latencies of drivers |
| 16:35.13 | Gnarfoz | shouldn't have anything to do with services |
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| 16:41.45 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: "If for example tcpip.sys or ndis.sys is reported as the culprit, chances are the problems are caused by your wireless network adapter, if you have one. You could consider disabling the WiFi adapter and receive internet via an Ethernet cable. You can disable devices by right-clicking on My Computer and selecting Device Manager, right-clicking a device and selecting disable. You should run |
| 16:41.47 | Maldivia | LatencyMon again to check if the situation has improved, there might still be another device or driver causing audio latencies. " |
| 16:42.02 | Maldivia | from http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon_using |
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| 16:52.17 | Gnarfoz | yeah, thanks, but... I *did* read the manual to the software I'm using :P |
| 16:52.57 | Gnarfoz | so far, everything does point to "all network drivers you tried suck" or "it's something else, you're wasting your time" :( |
| 16:54.44 | Gnarfoz | (I realize that most of the appropriate trial and error monologue happened in #wowace, not here ^^) |
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| 17:43.07 | Shirik | Cairenn: http://imgur.com/eb0cphL |
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| 17:56.06 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.57 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 18:04.52 | fewyn | AT&T is here hooking up our new tv/internet |
| 18:28.43 | g0urra | super salty about oversalt |
| 18:30.35 | fewyn | http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/update-history-windows-10 this is new |
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| 18:46.21 | nevcairiel | yeah they started that recently |
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| 18:49.59 | zenzelezz | I haven't actually run many games with task manager open, but XCOM2 is the first I've at least noticed using 2.5-3 GB RAM |
| 18:50.34 | zenzelezz | even peaked at 4 right now |
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| 19:04.06 | fewyn | MEMORY LEAK |
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| 19:16.01 | zenzelezz | fewyn: you'd think so, and it still could be, but it does drop back to 2 from there, so I'm guessing it's just wildly fluctuating in where it uses the memory |
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| 19:57.35 | fewyn | http://distractify.com/trending/2016/02/10/mustafa-cant-wait-to-read-it |
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| 20:45.22 | FireSiku | Peer is being such a bully right now. |
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| 20:48.08 | fewyn | http://www.speedtest.net/result/5075428992.png |
| 21:08.44 | Primer | terrible |
| 21:11.58 | Constie | http://www.speedtest.net/result/5075487834.png #heyladies |
| 21:12.22 | Primer | much better |
| 21:12.56 | FireSiku | Goddamn im so jealous :/ |
| 21:14.25 | FireSiku | http://www.speedtest.net/result/5075493325.png |
| 21:14.52 | haste | my phone has a better connection then that FireSiku :( |
| 21:14.59 | FireSiku | :( |
| 21:15.14 | FireSiku | I live in the absolute middle of nowhere. |
| 21:15.16 | haste | http://i.imgur.com/rUM2bda.png |
| 21:15.24 | FireSiku | No cable company give service over here. None. |
| 21:16.49 | kd3 | that's better than what my parents have. they got /upgraded/ to 3Mbps/384Kbps not that long ago |
| 21:17.10 | FireSiku | ...I also pay $85/month for that connection x_x |
| 21:17.51 | kd3 | hm, we've got worse internet at the office than I do at home. |
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| 21:17.56 | Semlar | if it makes you feel any better i have cable and have 15/1 mbps |
| 21:17.58 | FireSiku | 3mb/400-500ish up is the lower plan my ISP gives. |
| 21:18.14 | Constie | I pay like $20. |
| 21:18.19 | Semlar | it's $60/mo |
| 21:18.54 | haste | we currently have 100/20 here now, but only because it was free for three months |
| 21:19.00 | haste | upgrading to 500/50 as soon as that time runs out |
| 21:19.54 | Constie | I'm supposed to have gigabit up and down, but I've never seen any downloads go faster than about 35 MB/s. But, like, that's fast enough. |
| 21:24.50 | Neffi | Semlar: My ISP isn't as bad as I thought with pricing. If I order just internet, I can get 150/150 for $70/mo |
| 21:24.56 | Neffi | :3 |
| 21:25.01 | Semlar | :( |
| 21:25.12 | Neffi | but then 300/300 jumps up to $300/mo, which kinda doesn't make sense to me |
| 21:25.47 | Neffi | And no, the price of 150/150 isn't some special promotional price which doesn't apply to higher tiers. It's the base price. |
| 21:26.13 | Neffi | Semlar: obviously you should move to New York |
| 21:26.19 | Neffi | or better yet, somewhere with Google Fiber |
| 21:26.34 | Semlar | yeah, google needs direct access to my internet connection |
| 21:26.40 | Neffi | yes they do |
| 21:27.35 | Neffi | Does the GF terms of use grant them access to any of your data? |
| 21:28.06 | Neffi | I know AT&T's gigabit fiber is only $70 if you allow them to monitor your traffic and sell the data to third parties. It's more expensive if you don't |
| 21:28.20 | Semlar | :| |
| 21:29.33 | Neffi | Apparently you have to pay a $30/mo "privacy fee" to avoid that with AT&T |
| 21:29.41 | Neffi | why is this legal, Semlar? |
| 21:30.11 | Semlar | to be fair they're probably doing the same thing to the people who pay extra anyway |
| 21:30.38 | Neffi | Probably not. Not worth the lawsuit |
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| 21:31.04 | Semlar | how would you ever know |
| 21:31.37 | Neffi | If you think any big organization can keep anything a secret you haven't been paying attention for the last half decade |
| 21:31.54 | Neffi | They can't even manage to keep your passwords and credit card info from leaking |
| 21:32.15 | Semlar | i think you're underestimating how much you never find out about |
| 21:32.37 | Neffi | No, I think you're underestimating risk assessment |
| 21:33.00 | Neffi | I'm as paranoid as the next guy, but there's a realistic amount of risk that a big company is willing to let go |
| 21:33.29 | Neffi | Doing something illegal and lying about it is generally reserved for top executives and their personal affaira |
| 21:34.09 | Neffi | They can't afford to let that kind of behavior go on in the lower echelons of the organization where mere workers have to implement that lying |
| 21:34.13 | Semlar | you know botters get to the top of the leaderboards and stay there forever |
| 21:34.27 | Semlar | that's how i picture every successful person |
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| 21:35.04 | Semlar | they just cheat their way to the top and every once in a while someone gets caught |
| 21:35.08 | Neffi | how I picture every successful person is basically that one douchebag from Turing Pharma |
| 21:35.13 | Neffi | you know the guy |
| 21:35.21 | Neffi | has that super punchable face, and that fucking smirk |
| 21:35.33 | Neffi | been in the news a lot lately because he's such a douchebag |
| 21:35.56 | Neffi | only less careless |
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| 21:44.34 | Semlar_ | here neffi http://gfycat.com/BriefShowyElephantseal |
| 21:44.51 | Neffi | wat |
| 21:45.06 | Neffi | this hurts my head |
| 21:45.45 | FireSiku | What sorcery is this |
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| 21:48.42 | Semlar | ._. |
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| 22:35.54 | Unkle | How long do you think your pathetic sorcery can hold me? Illidan is an arrogant fool. |
| 22:42.57 | Semlar | don't forget to rotate your owl |
| 23:09.01 | airtonix__ | k |
| 23:11.38 | Neffi | rotates Semlar's "owl". |
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| 23:20.33 | Amarande | Unkle: that's just because Illidan is so wimpy these days |
| 23:20.52 | Amarande | back in the day, his sorcery could hold guilds for months, and then LITERALLY TEAR FRIENDS APART :D |
| 23:23.59 | Amarande | wonder what the normal way of handling those glaives was, anyway |
| 23:24.27 | Amarande | I'm guessing that the sane way would have had to be, when your first glaive drops you have to drop the DKP for the whole set right then and have automatic claim for the second |
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| 23:46.20 | Semlar2 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20742114376 i feel like none of these people play a hunter |
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| 23:47.59 | Semlar2 | misdirection doesn't have a gcd |
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