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| 01:47.56 | Trela | Went to Un'Goro Crater, killed exactly one ooze. Disgusting Oozeling drops. :D |
| 01:48.33 | Gnarfoz | effective |
| 01:49.57 | Trela | I think the current price is around 8,000 gold. |
| 01:49.58 | Amarande | Trela: nice |
| 01:50.06 | Trela | More gold than I have on all my characters combined. ._. |
| 01:50.13 | Amarande | reminds me of the happy fun I had at Stratholme back in 3.0 :) |
| 01:50.24 | Amarande | I'm thinking "okay I'll finish off dungeonmaster" |
| 01:50.38 | Amarande | first time I try to go solo Strath it bugs out. slaughterhouse won't open. had to reset. |
| 01:50.55 | Amarande | second time ... well, first, achievement completed. second, I'm looking in the loot and ... bam, deathcharger :D |
| 01:51.23 | Trela | >:O Nice and hate you. XD |
| 01:51.33 | Trela | I usually give up grinding after so many tries. |
| 01:51.40 | Amarande | On the other hand, I *still* can't seem to get the white hawkstrider from MgT |
| 01:52.15 | Amarande | I'll have to give it another go, next time I get WoW going again, which probably won't be till summer when I'm moved in with my fiancee |
| 01:52.31 | Amarande | since the gaming tower's already been shipped out to her place, so I'm on a Linux laptop at the moment, and 1366x768 at that |
| 01:52.48 | kullervo | just spent 952381g on the BMAH |
| 01:52.56 | Amarande | wow |
| 01:53.01 | Trela | Yeah. I love/hate these dungeon mounds that are insanely hard to get. |
| 01:53.07 | Trela | That... is a lot of gold. |
| 01:53.10 | Amarande | I'm not sure I've ever acquired that much gold total across every character I've ever played, since 2007 |
| 01:53.11 | bshelden | I dunno, random chocobo runs should work even on a potato. |
| 01:53.22 | kullervo | actually spent more but got outbid on another item I don't care SO much about |
| 01:53.29 | bshelden | I'm sitting on a quarter million |
| 01:53.40 | Amarande | bshelden: assuming I'm arsed to get Wine working and all that jazz |
| 01:53.43 | bshelden | In related news, the garrisons have got to go. |
| 01:53.54 | Trela | I doubt I have ever broke 100,000 gold combine. |
| 01:54.04 | Trela | *combined. |
| 01:54.07 | Amarande | bshelden: I suspect they probably will "go" in the same way that the MoP farm "went" |
| 01:54.09 | bshelden | <packagemanager> <installoptions> <wine>; wine /path/to/wow/download? |
| 01:54.16 | bshelden | WoW is one of the ones they maintain well. |
| 01:54.21 | Amarande | as in, I rather doubt the garrison will remain relevant in Legion |
| 01:54.33 | Amarande | unless you want to go back for legacy stuff |
| 01:54.35 | bshelden | They need to be nuked. At least the gold missions need to straight up stop existing. |
| 01:55.09 | Amarande | eh, they might not matter as much next xpac |
| 01:55.22 | bshelden | Meh, I like that less. Obsolence by inflation? |
| 01:55.25 | Amarande | keep in mind every xpac brings in a significant inflationary epoch |
| 01:55.31 | Trela | The gold missions have basically saturated the market in gold making it difficult for new and casual players to purchase items. |
| 01:55.52 | Amarande | Trela: that's really got more to do with the fact that lower level players have no way to partake in the economy atm |
| 01:55.57 | Amarande | because of *other* bad decisions |
| 01:56.12 | Amarande | it'd be a different matter if they hadn't also made it so easy to level up professions and get free mats from the garrison |
| 01:56.38 | Amarande | before that, it was pretty easy even in an inflated economy to get a basic foothold, just sell off your surplus gathered mats as you level and you start building a decent nest egg |
| 01:56.58 | Amarande | but now it's a lot harder to sell mats, even old standby sellers often sit now |
| 01:57.13 | bshelden | time to head out. Company dinner. |
| 01:57.27 | Trela | Yeah, could be super lazy mining a bunch of copper ore for people learning professions from scratch. |
| 01:57.43 | Trela | Not so much anymore. Boost to level 90 or 100, bam, no need for that. |
| 01:58.08 | Amarande | I'm surprised the boosts are so popular though given the price |
| 01:58.17 | kullervo | I had just shy of 100k in WOTLK already |
| 01:58.31 | kullervo | and didn't bother with TRYING to make gold for 3 expansions after that |
| 01:58.48 | Trela | Not so much popular, but everyone that was already 90 got a free 90. |
| 01:59.03 | Amarande | yeah, I'm not sure how many were actually bought |
| 01:59.17 | Amarande | I actually still have my freebie boost on tap |
| 01:59.42 | Amarande | not sure when if ever I will use it, or for what class (my guess is probably warrior, because it looks like it's fun at higher levels but I've always found it rather dull at low levels) |
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| 03:59.00 | mckenziemc1 | Amarande's rather dull at all levels. |
| 04:22.03 | Torhal | mckenziemc is rather caustic at all levels. |
| 04:25.45 | mckenziemc | dissolves Torhal. |
| 04:26.18 | Torhal | seeps into mckenziemc, taking him as a host. |
| 04:26.27 | Amarande | hah, mckenziemc, you have a "Danger: Corrosive" warning label on you |
| 04:26.34 | Amarande | at least I only have "Caution: Irritant" :D |
| 04:27.07 | mckenziemc | if you say so |
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| 14:16.05 | karl_w_w | anyone want to refer me to star citizen? |
| 14:16.37 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w, if you like space exploration games, you may want to check out Star Citizen |
| 14:16.52 | karl_w_w | i mean there is a referral field :P |
| 14:17.35 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: if you want to, STAR-NV3S-FCZ7 |
| 14:18.13 | nevcairiel | (gives you 5000 credits, too!) |
| 14:19.02 | karl_w_w | thanks champ |
| 14:20.28 | zenzelezz | how much is 5000 credits in SC, relatively speaking? Enough to refuel, buy a module, buy a ship? |
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| 15:09.41 | karl_w_w | https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/43e60j/daily_simple_questions_thread_jan_30_2016/czhjcwt |
| 15:09.44 | karl_w_w | facepalms |
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| 16:28.37 | emihir0 | how would one go about setting some type of internal timer that would tick every second? I see there is for example: C_Timer.NewTicker |
| 16:28.45 | emihir0 | but are there some standard/most efficient way to do it properly? |
| 16:38.26 | mckenziemc | back in the day, we just had OnUpdate :o |
| 16:39.46 | Semlar | NewTicker probably makes the most sense, OnUpdate gives you the most control |
| 16:40.27 | Semlar | technically i think calling C_Timer.After is marginally more efficient but i don't think it's worth it |
| 16:44.46 | emihir0 | ok, i'll have a look, thanks |
| 16:46.53 | emihir0 | i found an addon that 'spams' the tradechannel (thought they had to have some sort of timer there, so it would be a good starting point) |
| 16:46.58 | emihir0 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14675-Spammer.html this one precisely |
| 16:47.13 | emihir0 | and it uses OnUpdate, however, it doesn't register it to any Event |
| 16:47.22 | emihir0 | i thought every frame had to be registered to an event :o |
| 16:48.28 | mckenziemc | nope, it just limits what you can do |
| 16:48.37 | mckenziemc | but a frame that's shown gets OnUpdate calls |
| 16:49.02 | Semlar | an OnUpdate script gets run every frame |
| 16:49.53 | emihir0 | i'm a bit confused now |
| 16:50.15 | emihir0 | when you say 'gets run every frame', does that mean as in... same frame as FPS? |
| 16:50.19 | mckenziemc | yes |
| 16:50.27 | emihir0 | so like if a user has 50 FPS, it gets run 50 times per second |
| 16:50.31 | Semlar | yes |
| 16:50.41 | emihir0 | thanks, that explains a bit |
| 16:50.59 | nevcairiel | use OnUpdate with care |
| 16:51.02 | karl_w_w | wow there are timers now? |
| 16:51.08 | nevcairiel | doing too much work in there can make the the game hiccup or slow down |
| 16:51.09 | emihir0 | so what precisely does 'elapsed' represent when the frame is not tied to an event? |
| 16:51.21 | nevcairiel | the time since the last execution |
| 16:51.23 | Semlar | the elapsed argument is how much time has passed since the last OnUpdate |
| 16:52.03 | emihir0 | so if a user has 50FPS, that would be 0.02 second |
| 16:52.06 | emihir0 | ie. elapsed = 0.02 |
| 16:53.03 | Semlar | when you're making a timer you'd keep a variable outside the OnUpdate function that you add the elapsed time to until it gets to your desired interval (eg. 1 second) and then reset it to 0 |
| 16:53.19 | emihir0 | or you substract until it reaches 0 |
| 16:53.29 | nevcairiel | although for 1s things you probably just want to use C_Timer |
| 16:53.49 | nevcairiel | OnUpdate these days is really only useful for things that literally need to dos omething every frame, say animations |
| 16:54.14 | Semlar | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/20726/C_TimerAugment.lua this shows you how some of the C_Timer functions are defined and why calling "After" directly is more efficient than NewTicker |
| 16:55.05 | nevcairiel | NewTimer is just a convenience function that allows canceling |
| 16:55.42 | emihir0 | yes, i see |
| 16:56.33 | emihir0 | if i wanted to do a 'spam' addon like the one i linked and i wanted to replace the 'OnUpdate' event with C_Timer.NewTicker (i want to be able to cancel the iterations with some slash command) |
| 16:57.01 | emihir0 | i don't need to use any frames at all in that case, right? |
| 16:57.17 | Semlar | you don't need to create any frames if all you're using are the C_Timer functions |
| 16:59.09 | emihir0 | what is the difference between NewTimer and After |
| 16:59.30 | Semlar | it's in that file |
| 16:59.33 | nevcairiel | After only calls once, NewTimer is repeated until canceled |
| 16:59.45 | Semlar | no NewTimer is only called once |
| 16:59.50 | Semlar | it just lets you cancel it |
| 17:00.15 | Semlar | there are comments for it in that lua file on line 34 |
| 17:00.23 | nevcairiel | oh right ticker repeats |
| 17:00.29 | nevcairiel | he said that one earlier =p |
| 17:00.39 | Semlar | NewTimer literally just calls NewTicker with an iteration of 1 |
| 17:01.08 | emihir0 | yes, i see |
| 17:01.29 | emihir0 | so if i wanted to make a kind of boolean iteration (ie. iterate until told to stop), i would use ticker with a very high value of iterations |
| 17:01.46 | Semlar | no you'd just not provide any iteration value |
| 17:02.03 | Semlar | and it would repeat until you cancelled it |
| 17:02.06 | emihir0 | once a new clash command has been registered to stop, it would ticker:Cancel() |
| 17:02.28 | emihir0 | oh, yes, you are right |
| 17:02.43 | emihir0 | so let me write down some code and i'll get back here in a few mins ^_^ |
| 17:13.48 | emihir0 | http://pastebin.com/wA8mydqt |
| 17:14.10 | emihir0 | i don't think I can call the function in that way though |
| 17:15.40 | emihir0 | i used it that way because it is documented that way here: http://wow.gamepedia.com/API_C_Timer.NewTicker |
| 17:20.18 | Semlar | well you're creating the ticker in the main body of the script |
| 17:20.24 | Semlar | so it's just going to start immediately |
| 17:21.07 | Semlar | and you're using "msg" instead of "msgStr" in it |
| 17:21.55 | emihir0 | yes, corrected |
| 17:22.46 | emihir0 | elseif command == "start" then local ticker = C_Timer.NewTicker(duration, function() SendChatMessage(msgStr) end) |
| 17:22.51 | emihir0 | i should do something like this then i assume? |
| 17:23.00 | Semlar | you also just have "ticker" in your "elseif command == "start" block, which i would expect to throw an error |
| 17:23.09 | emihir0 | yes |
| 17:23.58 | Semlar | you can't make the reference to "ticker" local to the slashHandler function if you want to be able to cancel it later |
| 17:24.26 | Semlar | you need to do something like put "local ticker" above the slashHandler function |
| 17:24.41 | emihir0 | yep, just did that (realised it after i linked the code here) |
| 17:25.38 | Semlar | you probably need to do something to keep track of whether the ticker is active before starting a new one too |
| 17:26.38 | Semlar | i don't know if you can restart a cancelled ticker |
| 17:26.51 | emihir0 | well |
| 17:26.59 | emihir0 | if you keep msgStr and duration saved |
| 17:27.12 | emihir0 | hmm |
| 17:27.30 | Semlar | i guess you could call ticker._cancelled = nil |
| 17:28.09 | Semlar | if that works you wouldn't need to create another ticker |
| 17:28.19 | Semlar | you could just turn the same one off and on |
| 17:28.31 | emihir0 | i see |
| 17:28.34 | emihir0 | i'll try that |
| 17:29.49 | emihir0 | how do i keep a variable saved between sessions? |
| 17:29.52 | emihir0 | i have ## SavedVariables:strMsg,duration |
| 17:29.54 | emihir0 | in my .toc |
| 17:30.10 | Semlar | you need to make those global variables |
| 17:30.20 | Semlar | but you're going to want to call them something better |
| 17:30.47 | emihir0 | i see |
| 17:30.59 | emihir0 | so i dont use local strMsg ="" at all |
| 17:31.24 | Semlar | you should prepend any global variables with your addon name |
| 17:31.53 | emihir0 | can underscore be used in .lua naming? such as ticker_msg |
| 17:32.04 | Semlar | it's being used in C_Timer >_> |
| 17:32.08 | emihir0 | ... |
| 17:32.09 | emihir0 | sorry |
| 17:32.13 | emihir0 | my brain is slow sometimes :P |
| 17:33.01 | Semlar | you can also just create 1 global variable for your addon that's a table containing whatever you want to store |
| 17:33.11 | emihir0 | i see |
| 17:33.36 | emihir0 | so i can have something like ticker_t |
| 17:33.50 | emihir0 | and then access msg for example by ticker_t[1] |
| 17:34.09 | emihir0 | where do i declare that ticker_t is a table though? such that ticker_t = {} |
| 17:34.14 | Semlar | you can have MyAddonVariables = {} |
| 17:34.15 | emihir0 | or does it need to be declared this way at all? |
| 17:34.35 | Semlar | and then MyAddonVariables.Message = "derp" MyAddonVariables.Duration = 2 |
| 17:34.43 | emihir0 | i see |
| 17:35.03 | emihir0 | MyAddonVriables.Message == MyAddonVariables["Message"] |
| 17:35.04 | emihir0 | right? |
| 17:35.15 | Semlar | yes |
| 17:35.21 | Semlar | or MyAddonVariables = { Message = "derp", Duration = 2 } |
| 17:35.27 | emihir0 | yes |
| 17:35.40 | emihir0 | so where do i declare the global variable? just at the start of the addon? |
| 17:36.02 | Semlar | yeah you can just have that line at the top of the file and it'll be overwritten by the saved values once they're loaded |
| 17:36.34 | Semlar | so you can put your defaults in there and then after your addon loads it's going to replace that table with the one that's in the saved variables file |
| 17:36.47 | emihir0 | oh, sweet |
| 17:36.49 | emihir0 | thanks |
| 17:37.27 | Semlar | the new values aren't available until ADDON_LOADED fires with your addon name, which means until that happens, any references you make to the table are going to use the original values |
| 17:38.00 | Semlar | so if that's important then you're going to want to wait for that event to do anything, but if this is all done through slash commands it's probably not going to matter |
| 17:38.27 | Semlar | by the time the user can type a slash command to start the timer the variables will have been loaded |
| 17:38.30 | emihir0 | when i declare ticker_variables = {}, can i use ticker_variables.msg = "some msg" straight away or do i need to do something like ticker_variables = { msg = "" } in my initial declaration? |
| 17:39.02 | emihir0 | i would assume i can use .msg, but just wanted to confirm |
| 17:39.14 | Semlar | yes |
| 17:40.01 | Semlar | your second example just adds the key when the table is created instead of adding it as a key afterward |
| 17:42.17 | emihir0 | i want to get back to the pausing ticker |
| 17:42.25 | emihir0 | is there any reason to pause it? basically when i call /ticker start |
| 17:42.39 | emihir0 | i can just override the previous ticker with the same information |
| 17:43.00 | emihir0 | as in, /ticker start -> /ticker stop -> /ticker start |
| 17:43.06 | emihir0 | elseif command == "start" then ticker = C_Timer.NewTicker(ticker_variables.duration, function() SendChatMessage(ticker_variables.msg) end) |
| 17:43.09 | emihir0 | this would be called twice |
| 17:46.39 | Semlar | this is going to just create a new second ticker |
| 17:47.46 | Semlar | if ticker already exists you should just "cancel" it to stop it from firing and then see if you can unset the ._cancelled value to resume it again |
| 17:48.21 | emihir0 | well how does it create a new second ticker? :o |
| 17:48.34 | emihir0 | i have local ticker declared before |
| 17:48.37 | Semlar | because you're calling C_Timer.NewTicker |
| 17:48.54 | Semlar | it doesn't matter that you're re-using the old variable |
| 17:48.54 | emihir0 | but it's assigning to the local ticker |
| 17:49.05 | emihir0 | like if i have this code: |
| 17:49.07 | Semlar | you're just overwriting the old variable with a new ticker, the old one still exists |
| 17:49.16 | emihir0 | local ticker |
| 17:49.17 | emihir0 | ticker = C_Timer.NewTicker(... |
| 17:49.27 | Semlar | you're making 2 tickers |
| 17:49.33 | Semlar | you just can't reference the first one |
| 17:49.40 | emihir0 | hmm |
| 17:49.46 | Semlar | you can try it yourself |
| 17:49.51 | emihir0 | i mean ingame it works (i can start and stop and start again) |
| 17:50.33 | Semlar | alright think about it this way, you don't need to assign C_Timer.NewTicker to a variable at all to start a timer |
| 17:50.49 | Semlar | you can just do /run C_Timer.NewTicker() and it's going to start calling the function you give it periodically |
| 17:51.18 | Semlar | the only thing assigning it to a variable does is let you use that variable to reference the ticker you created |
| 17:51.36 | emihir0 | i see |
| 17:52.26 | emihir0 | but if it is still in proper order, ie. start>stop>start>stop... that shouldn't be a problem, because the previous ticker has been cancelled |
| 17:52.34 | emihir0 | it's only problem when start is called twice in row |
| 17:52.49 | emihir0 | from my undrerstanding at least |
| 17:53.10 | Semlar | well yes, but i also don't know if the original ticker you created ever gets garbage collected when you remove any references to it |
| 17:53.24 | Semlar | it might just stay in memory |
| 17:53.52 | emihir0 | i see |
| 17:54.46 | emihir0 | i know what you mean, but i'm not sure either, basically when i do start>start>stop, it will stop one of the ticker (i presume the second one) |
| 17:54.50 | emihir0 | then there is no way to stop the first one |
| 17:55.16 | Semlar | right |
| 17:55.25 | Semlar | you can't stop the first one because you overwrote the only way to reference it |
| 17:56.05 | emihir0 | yes, i understand that part |
| 17:56.21 | Semlar | i assume the interface has some internal way of tracking which tickers it's created, which is why i'm not sure whether they get garbage collected once they've been cancelled |
| 17:57.13 | emihir0 | calling ticker._cancelled won't return the boolean true/false |
| 17:57.35 | Semlar | well you don't call it, you just read its value |
| 17:57.39 | Semlar | it's not a function |
| 17:57.46 | emihir0 | or rather print(ticker._cancelled); |
| 17:57.50 | emihir0 | returns nil |
| 17:58.04 | Semlar | it should be nil unless you've called ticker:Cancel() |
| 17:58.17 | emihir0 | oh, i thought it would be false |
| 17:58.31 | emihir0 | because ticker:Cancel() does self._cancel = true; |
| 17:58.40 | emihir0 | so it's either nil or true? |
| 17:58.44 | emihir0 | sorry, cancelled, not cancel |
| 17:59.17 | Semlar | you should read the lua manual but yes nil or true |
| 17:59.43 | Semlar | nil and false are both evaluated as false in an if statement |
| 17:59.48 | emihir0 | well i can make a local variable isRunning so users can't call start twice |
| 17:59.51 | emihir0 | i see |
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| 18:00.40 | emihir0 | or yes, simply can use if not ticker._cancelled then ... make new ticker |
| 18:00.49 | Semlar | you know the ticker is running if "ticker" exists and ticker._cancelled isn't true |
| 18:00.50 | emihir0 | but how do i force garbage collection when i call stop? |
| 18:01.12 | nevcairiel | first rule of garbage collected languages: dont think about the garbage collection |
| 18:01.31 | Semlar | yeah don't worry about garbage collection, just don't keep creating new timers |
| 18:01.58 | emihir0 | if a user changes duration or msg, a new timer has to be created |
| 18:02.09 | emihir0 | unless there is a way to change the existing one? |
| 18:02.10 | Semlar | no, the old timer can be modified |
| 18:02.12 | emihir0 | oh |
| 18:02.14 | emihir0 | ... |
| 18:02.15 | emihir0 | i had no idea |
| 18:02.17 | emihir0 | lol |
| 18:02.27 | emihir0 | ... not sure why i thought it's impossible |
| 18:03.13 | Semlar | although duration might not be something you can change, you should probably just make your own ticker function |
| 18:04.36 | Semlar | they're not storing the duration, they're using an anonymous variable for it |
| 18:05.11 | Semlar | which means you won't be able to get at it |
| 18:05.12 | emihir0 | i see |
| 18:05.19 | emihir0 | how would one go about changing the msg though? |
| 18:05.38 | Semlar | the message is in your own function so you have total control over it |
| 18:05.45 | Semlar | all the ticker does is call your function |
| 18:05.46 | emihir0 | ticker._callback = function() ... end ? |
| 18:05.55 | emihir0 | ah |
| 18:06.05 | emihir0 | i see |
| 18:07.20 | Semlar | just make your own timer that chooses whether to call C_Timer.After again based on whether the timer's been cancelled |
| 18:08.21 | Semlar | instead of using NewTicker |
| 18:16.24 | emihir0 | i'm having a bit of trouble with this |
| 18:16.45 | emihir0 | http://pastebin.com/GVc4Virx |
| 18:17.16 | emihir0 | does this make sense? |
| 18:20.14 | emihir0 | http://pastebin.com/ZijKGnpZ or this maybe |
| 18:24.45 | emihir0 | i can't quite get there, not sure how to proceed :/ |
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| 18:26.50 | Semlar | if i write it you're not going to learn anything |
| 18:27.22 | emihir0 | i dont want you to write it |
| 18:27.29 | emihir0 | my problem is that i don't know how to 'loop' the ticker |
| 18:27.39 | Semlar | alright what does C_Timer.After do |
| 18:27.44 | emihir0 | basically i can write C_Timer.After(ticker_variables.duration, function() SendChatMessage(ticker_variables.msg) --, "CHANNEL", nil, 2) end) |
| 18:27.54 | emihir0 | but that executes it only once |
| 18:28.00 | Semlar | it runs your function once after the duration |
| 18:28.01 | emihir0 | not sure how to do the 'do until stopped' part |
| 18:28.05 | emihir0 | yes |
| 18:28.17 | Semlar | so what do you do if you want it to keep going |
| 18:28.29 | emihir0 | well i did a while loop, but that would freeze my game :P |
| 18:28.33 | Semlar | right |
| 18:29.30 | Semlar | so what do you do if you want to run your function again after a certain duration |
| 18:29.35 | emihir0 | i guess i could call another C_Timer.NewTicker to check every 1 second if my msg/duration has been changed lol |
| 18:29.42 | emihir0 | but that doesn't seem like a good solution :D |
| 18:29.54 | Semlar | you call C_Timer.After again |
| 18:29.59 | emihir0 | yes |
| 18:30.20 | emihir0 | so you want to recursively call it? |
| 18:30.53 | Semlar | in this http://pastebin.com/GVc4Virx you'd put tick() inside your C_Timer.After call |
| 18:31.15 | emihir0 | yeah i just did it too ^_^ |
| 18:31.19 | emihir0 | function tick() if ticker then C_Timer.After(ticker_variables.duration, function() SendChatMessage(ticker_variables.msg) --, "CHANNEL", nil, 2) end) tick() end end |
| 18:31.33 | emihir0 | ignore this part '--, "CHANNEL", nil, 2)' |
| 18:31.52 | emihir0 | http://pastebin.com/DjThBFjY |
| 18:31.54 | emihir0 | so this |
| 18:31.57 | Semlar | you should probably just use print() for now |
| 18:32.23 | Semlar | no it has to be inside the function you're calling After |
| 18:32.37 | Semlar | you want your function to keep going |
| 18:32.50 | Semlar | so C_Timer.After needs to call C_Timer.After |
| 18:33.23 | emihir0 | oh |
| 18:33.55 | Semlar | if you put tick() directly inside of tick() you're just calling an infinite loop |
| 18:34.18 | emihir0 | well, so do i if i put it in C_Timer.After, but it's delayed by the duration every time |
| 18:34.24 | emihir0 | and it can be stopped |
| 18:34.37 | emihir0 | but yes, that makes sense |
| 18:34.54 | Semlar | you want it to loop on a delay |
| 18:35.08 | emihir0 | yes |
| 18:35.12 | emihir0 | i got it now, i'm gonna test it ingame |
| 18:35.16 | Semlar | but you don't want it to run the function if it's supposed to be stopped |
| 18:35.37 | Semlar | so before you call the callback function it needs to check if it's supposed to run |
| 18:36.21 | emihir0 | yes, i understand now |
| 18:36.39 | emihir0 | basically we will call tick() even if it is supposed to not run (ie. ticker = false), but only once |
| 18:36.42 | emihir0 | then it will stop recursing |
| 18:37.36 | Semlar | well, if you want to be able to cancel it between ticks without it ticking again you'd have to check if it's been cancelled inside of the callback function |
| 18:37.49 | Semlar | before it calls SendChatMessage |
| 18:37.54 | emihir0 | yes |
| 18:38.07 | emihir0 | i now understand the code here: https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/20726/C_TimerAugment.lua too |
| 18:38.13 | emihir0 | so i can see why they want to check for it inside again |
| 18:38.32 | emihir0 | what i dont quite understand is what does ._ mean in lua |
| 18:38.35 | emihir0 | ticker._callback vs ticker.callback |
| 18:38.52 | Semlar | nothing, it's just naming convention |
| 18:39.12 | emihir0 | i see |
| 18:39.34 | Semlar | they're putting an underscore before it because it's an internal variable that shouldn't be modified by something else |
| 18:40.36 | emihir0 | i see |
| 18:40.39 | Semlar | so if someone wanted to store a value on the ticker itself, they're unlikely to overwrite the ._cancelled variable on accident |
| 18:41.04 | emihir0 | i see |
| 18:41.07 | emihir0 | that actually makes sense |
| 18:41.51 | Semlar | like if someone wanted to mark their ticker as "cancelled" in the context of their own addon, they could still do .cancelled = true without changing the behavior here |
| 18:42.01 | emihir0 | yes |
| 18:42.20 | emihir0 | can a table contain another table and be called: table1.table2.attribute = X |
| 18:42.27 | Semlar | yes |
| 18:42.40 | emihir0 | so table1.table2.attribute = x |
| 18:42.44 | emihir0 | table1.attribute = y |
| 18:42.56 | emihir0 | lua is quite slack in these stuff, i like it :P |
| 18:43.32 | emihir0 | does it need to be specifically declared? such as table1 = { {} } |
| 18:43.33 | Semlar | you can even store a table key as a table or a function but i wouldn't recommend it |
| 18:44.03 | emihir0 | well what i wanna do is store the previous msgs in the ticker_variables |
| 18:44.05 | Semlar | well, unless you have a reason to of course |
| 18:44.41 | emihir0 | well you can have 2-3 messages taht you want to spam |
| 18:45.05 | emihir0 | or rather, settings |
| 18:45.10 | emihir0 | so index, msg, duration |
| 18:45.24 | emihir0 | then call it with /ticker start 1 |
| 18:45.28 | emihir0 | (example) |
| 18:46.37 | Semlar | the table has to already exist before you start putting things into it |
| 18:46.56 | Semlar | you can't do table1.table2.attribute if table2 doesn't exist yet |
| 18:47.36 | emihir0 | ah |
| 18:47.38 | emihir0 | i see |
| 18:48.09 | emihir0 | but then how do i keep it inside ## SavedVariables:ticker_variables |
| 18:48.12 | emihir0 | without adding additional table there |
| 18:48.24 | emihir0 | i guess i can make local table2 = ticker_variables.table2 |
| 18:48.46 | emihir0 | and then add stuff to table2, then before logou ticket_variables.table2 = table2? |
| 18:48.49 | emihir0 | that seems... inefficient |
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| 18:50.10 | Semlar | whatever you put in your ticker_variables table is going to be in the saved variable |
| 18:51.07 | Semlar | if you have ticker_variables = { table2 = {} } then that's what it's going to be |
| 18:52.10 | karl_w_w | so my tracking updated |
| 18:52.24 | karl_w_w | and the weight of the package went from 2.02kg to 2.55 |
| 18:52.37 | karl_w_w | I hope DHL didn't leave my package in the rain |
| 18:52.46 | karl_w_w | oh wait |
| 18:53.01 | karl_w_w | it hasn't left CA, there is no chance it has encountered rain |
| 18:53.10 | emihir0 | #burn |
| 18:54.32 | emihir0 | @Semlar so if i declare ticker_variables = { table2 = {} } at the beginning of my script |
| 18:54.59 | emihir0 | i can access table2 by either ticker_variables.table2["atrtibute"] = X |
| 18:55.07 | emihir0 | or table2["attribute"] = X? |
| 18:55.09 | emihir0 | or only the first one |
| 18:56.03 | Semlar | only the first one unless you did something like local table2 = ticker_variables.table2 in your script |
| 18:56.26 | emihir0 | yes, ok, i see |
| 18:57.07 | emihir0 | i think i'll have a look at the UIs now as this would be easier to operate using some interface rather than getting more and more complicated slash commands |
| 18:58.10 | Semlar | i mean i personally don't think anyone should be periodically sending automatic messages to the chat but that's just me |
| 18:59.43 | emihir0 | it would be mostly a private project |
| 18:59.56 | emihir0 | if idecide to make it public i would limit it to like 1 min being the highest frequency |
| 19:02.37 | Semlar | once you get to the point where you feel the need to send the same message to the chat on a regular basis you're going to have people reporting you for spamming just to stop seeing your messages |
| 19:04.09 | emihir0 | i know |
| 19:05.51 | mckenziemc | or they could /ignore |
| 19:06.44 | foxlit | or they could dispatch assassins to Semlar's house. |
| 19:06.46 | emihir0 | well the reason why i did it was because i pretty much just non-stop spammed certain messages in circles |
| 19:06.55 | emihir0 | so i'd have like 4 different messages that i'd spam manually |
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| 19:18.37 | Semlar | forwards assassination attempts to foxlit |
| 19:20.13 | emihir0 | why is C_PetJournal.CagePetByID not HW protected? |
| 19:20.48 | emihir0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.01 | emihir0 | this would cage all pets a player has in his journal with 1 execution (ie. 1 click) |
| 19:21.16 | emihir0 | that doesn't seem 'right' to me >.< |
| 19:23.07 | emihir0 | or well, that would actually just leave you with 1 pet of each in your bags |
| 19:23.09 | emihir0 | so would cage all the duplicates |
| 19:36.18 | kullervo | it's not a combat function |
| 19:36.50 | kullervo | and doesn't really add anything meaningful |
| 19:37.45 | emihir0 | well it saves a lot of time |
| 19:38.03 | emihir0 | posting on auction cannot be 'automated' |
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| 19:43.39 | emihir0 | are http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=595/highest-3-man-personal-rating not available ingame? i cannot even see it when comparing with other ppl's achievs under statistics |
| 19:45.54 | emihir0 | nevermind |
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| 20:44.12 | Simca | <emihir0> well it saves a lot of time |
| 20:44.30 | Simca | there are a lot of things that save a lot of time - you can vendor your entire inventory with one command, or move it all to the bank with one command |
| 20:45.31 | Simca | it's one of the big draws of addons, honestly |
| 20:46.44 | Simca | (the automation of trivial things) I love LeatrixPlus for it. |
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