| 00:04.38 | plaw | tacklehugs kd3 |
| 00:07.23 | kd3 | 'lo plaw |
| 00:07.41 | plaw | how's the hatenet going, mate? |
| 00:07.54 | plaw | did you ever get that thing fixed? |
| 00:08.00 | kd3 | doing fine now that I moved across the country |
| 00:08.19 | plaw | ahahaha yeah well that's one way to NOTABUG stuff |
| 00:08.29 | plaw | which part you in these days? |
| 00:08.33 | kd3 | oakland, ca |
| 00:38.05 | Mr_Rabies | argh, i hate the sources for valor :( |
| 00:38.13 | Mr_Rabies | every single one of them is content i don't need or want to do |
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| 01:25.17 | plaw | kd3: ooh, you're a genuine westie now then? :D |
| 01:31.36 | kd3 | yup |
| 01:31.42 | kd3 | as of 6 months ago now |
| 01:31.53 | kd3 | move in date was may 26 |
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| 02:10.18 | Fisker | I can't stop crying kd3 |
| 02:10.23 | Fisker | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1043677797/new-rebellion-one-click-android-smartphone/comments |
| 02:10.28 | Fisker | Please don't hesitate to revert |
| 02:17.26 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/OVbReSh.gifv |
| 02:22.54 | mckenziemc | old Fisker |
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| 02:50.35 | karl_w_w | calls mckenziemc a spade |
| 02:58.50 | mckenziemc | clubs karl_w_w. |
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| 03:01.06 | Mr_Rabies | reverts Fisker |
| 03:01.43 | mckenziemc | i wouldn't do that if i were you |
| 03:02.12 | Mr_Rabies | can't be worse than the current iteration |
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| 03:09.33 | mckenziemc | stabarande. |
| 03:10.52 | Amarande | heh |
| 03:10.54 | Amarande | G'evening |
| 03:11.31 | mckenziemc | you're late |
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| 04:16.06 | kd3 | hm... http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us10004bnm#general_summary |
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| 04:45.21 | pompy1 | http://www.zdnet.com/article/cloud-firm-linode-resets-user-passwords-after-suspected-hack/ |
| 04:51.38 | pompy1 | kd3: because of https://www.facebook.com/topic/North-Korea/112261672119611?source=whfrt&position=1&trqid=6236527144286488566 it seems. lol |
| 04:51.58 | pompy1 | :O |
| 04:58.26 | pompy1 | http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-35235288 the voice actor for Yugiri in FF XIV Heavensward ... crazy shit. |
| 05:08.20 | karl_w_w | oh god that is always the worst |
| 05:08.35 | karl_w_w | you're eating jelly beans and you get a licorice flavoured one |
| 05:08.57 | karl_w_w | why do they put them in there? do they think its some practical joke? |
| 05:09.04 | karl_w_w | crazy bastards |
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| 05:10.41 | Amarande | karl_w_w: same reason boxes of chocolates include coconut |
| 05:10.59 | Amarande | http://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/2010/12/12 |
| 05:11.52 | Iriel | karl_w_w: there are far worse flavors out there |
| 05:12.10 | CMDRTaco | yep, just ask Hairy Potter. |
| 05:12.17 | CMDRTaco | Harry |
| 05:12.30 | CMDRTaco | Hairy Potter was my adult star stage name. |
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| 05:16.54 | Amarande | heh, do they still make those harry potter themed jelly beans? |
| 05:17.02 | Amarande | I used to see them in Borders near the checkout, back when there was a Borders |
| 05:17.21 | Amarande | *sigh* I miss Borders :( |
| 05:17.37 | Amarande | the B&N near here isn't as big, if I want a huge bookstore now I have to go all the way into the city |
| 05:25.14 | kullervo | karl_w_w: for contrast, so you'd appreciate the good ones more |
| 05:25.55 | kullervo | do you even into neoclassic philosophy |
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| 06:34.01 | mckenziemc | so apparently i can only make an online payment to this company "M-F, 4am to 10:00 pm and all day Sat-Sun" |
| 06:58.27 | Torhal | Apparently they don't realize those types of things don't require immediate human intervention, mckenziemc. You should probably fire them. |
| 07:02.54 | Semlar | intervenes torhal |
| 07:03.11 | Torhal | intubates Semlar. |
| 07:03.19 | Semlar | oh my |
| 07:03.36 | mckenziemc | cuts Torhal's tubes. |
| 07:03.49 | Torhal | MAH INTARWEBZ! |
| 07:03.59 | mckenziemc | not those tubes |
| 07:22.45 | karl_w_w | pours cold water on the situation |
| 07:25.13 | mckenziemc | pours hot sulfuric acid on karl_w_w. |
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| 07:46.33 | karl_w_w | has anyone seen the revenant? |
| 08:09.32 | VIad | havent played too much hs lately, but never seen someone use it no |
| 08:11.29 | VIad | or is that a movie? |
| 08:12.09 | VIad | ok, it's also a movie |
| 08:12.15 | VIad | haven't seen that myself :p |
| 08:15.00 | VIad | btw, in my head I thought http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/27252-animated-armor was called "revenant" but I guess I remember wrong |
| 08:19.28 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 08:47.34 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCK0tyTT8Sc |
| 08:47.45 | karl_w_w | I don't know why I watch so many dash cam videos |
| 08:47.57 | karl_w_w | I just know that I do |
| 09:03.48 | VIad | maybe living uneventfully makes dashcams exciting |
| 09:07.03 | VIad | I too find dashcams interesting |
| 09:11.40 | VIad | karl_w_w: just curious, why is 2x whitespace prefered to 1x tab with the settings to appear as a 2x whitespace? |
| 09:12.30 | VIad | I am a fan of the tabulator, but maybe you can convince me to join the 2x space religion instead. |
| 09:16.42 | karl_w_w | no idea :P |
| 09:17.16 | karl_w_w | unrelated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vWrEmpRX_Q motherboard manufacture is much more automated than I thought |
| 09:17.56 | karl_w_w | need to solder stuff? just cook the whole board! then later just splash melted solder over the back! |
| 09:18.33 | karl_w_w | and more than half of the process seems to be testing |
| 09:55.25 | Shirik | hey linode users: It looks like linode detected some breakins and are requiring password resets |
| 09:55.33 | Shirik | but they haven't sent out any emails about it |
| 09:55.41 | Shirik | log into your account and your password should be expired |
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| 11:49.28 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: what did you expect, those are mass produced like any other thing in a PC :D |
| 11:52.02 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 11:52.04 | Fisker | e |
| 11:52.05 | Fisker | y |
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| 12:08.32 | karl_w_w | I didn't know how slapdash the soldering was, nevcairiel :P |
| 12:08.55 | karl_w_w | fourrrrr hours http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=840&iso=20160106T08&msg=Oculus%20Rift%20Pre-order |
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| 13:17.25 | VIad | karl_w_w: glhf |
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| 15:58.55 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy into space |
| 16:00.43 | nevcairiel | .. and oculus shop is down |
| 16:02.18 | nevcairiel | or not actually online yet |
| 16:03.07 | Fisker | I was thinking not actually online nevcairiel |
| 16:03.58 | Fisker | their thing errors out yeah |
| 16:04.18 | Fisker | Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'hostname' of undefined |
| 16:04.19 | Fisker | get rekt |
| 16:04.55 | nevcairiel | works now |
| 16:05.19 | Fisker | <script>require("TimeSlice").guard(function() {bigPipe.onPageletArrive({"id":"last_response","phase":1,"jsmods":{"define":[["OCShopConfig",[],{"paypal":true,"expectedShipping":"March 2016"},1244],["TimeSpentConfig",[],{"0_delay":0,"0_timeout":8,"delay":200000,"timeout":64},142],["ImmediateActiveSecondsConfig",[],{"sampling_rate":0},423]]},"is_last":true,"allResources":["GzsJX","eNbsO","dFPEJ","HwQ4l","r30PS"]," |
| 16:05.19 | Fisker | displayResources":["dFPEJ"],"the_end":true});}, "onPageletArrive last_response", {"root":true,"pagelet":"last_response"})();</script> |
| 16:05.19 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.22 | Fisker | oh |
| 16:05.23 | Fisker | darn |
| 16:05.30 | Fisker | $59990 |
| 16:05.31 | Fisker | cheap |
| 16:05.43 | nevcairiel | I figured it would be cheaper |
| 16:05.47 | nevcairiel | but shrug |
| 16:05.55 | Fisker | Does not include shipping |
| 16:06.01 | Fisker | Yeah I was hoping only $599 |
| 16:07.02 | nevcairiel | switched to â¬699 |
| 16:07.04 | nevcairiel | expensive =p |
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| 16:07.18 | Fisker | I'm just gonna check with paypal before my card gets charged 60k euros |
| 16:07.34 | Fisker | Can't even see it there |
| 16:08.40 | Fisker | I'm gonna hope they didn't goof up |
| 16:08.49 | Fisker | holy fuck |
| 16:08.52 | nevcairiel | i got an error when ordering |
| 16:08.56 | Amarande | Fisker: it probably declined, if that was the case |
| 16:08.58 | nevcairiel | both on paypal or CC |
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| 16:09.29 | Amarande | how many of us have a 60k euro credit limit on our cards, unless they're american express heh |
| 16:09.43 | Amarande | and even american express wouldn't let something that out-there go through without blinking, most likely |
| 16:10.42 | nevcairiel | yeah its not letting me through, something is broke |
| 16:11.28 | Amarande | those kind of credit limits vanished about half a decade ago with the economic crash and TARP ... much to people's disaster, even people who weren't using anywhere near that much credit :S |
| 16:12.28 | nevcairiel | going to try again later |
| 16:13.06 | Amarande | also better hope AMD Zen is successful, or VR is quite likely to stagnate |
| 16:16.25 | nevcairiel | apparently paypal is just broken on their checkout, start over fresh and use CC and it worked |
| 16:17.38 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/pZJ7reC |
| 16:17.44 | Amarande | the bit about zen being this: it seems like VR requires a pretty beefy CPU as well as GPU; if zen doesn't work out, AMD will probably conk out in 2019 when their bonds come due, and if Intel knows they finally have no competition at all, there's basically no incentive for them to improve performance very much each gen anymore |
| 16:18.18 | Amarande | so if VR *stays* requiring a beefy, relatively high priced CPU, there may not be enough VR users for AAA game producers to feel it's worth the money to sustain it |
| 16:18.23 | nevcairiel | competition is good for everyone, however if new use-cases actually need more CPU, intel has plenty incentive to work on that |
| 16:18.49 | nevcairiel | but games today barely use the CPUs we have, and VR isnt going to change that substantially |
| 16:18.58 | nevcairiel | GPUs on the other hand are still barely fast enough |
| 16:19.05 | nevcairiel | next gen hopefully brings that up to a proper levle |
| 16:19.37 | Amarande | yeah, it's only the CPU division of AMD that's in any real danger, *someone* would scoop up Radeon |
| 16:19.52 | Amarande | of course, that someone could be Apple who takes it in-house as a Mac exclusive, but ... heh |
| 16:20.21 | Fisker | It would definitely not get blocked here Amarande |
| 16:20.27 | Amarande | (or if not a Mac *exclusive*, prices the PC cards with the lovely affordable pricing we've come to know and love from Apple, LOL) |
| 16:20.40 | Fisker | We've had people get charged like a half a million dollars and it would still go through |
| 16:21.04 | Amarande | Fisker: once I tried to order a $600 TV from Circuit City (back when there was a Circuit City), and AmEx declined it |
| 16:21.12 | Fisker | btw nevcairiel is it the xbox one elite controller or the normal one? |
| 16:21.22 | nevcairiel | normal i think |
| 16:21.35 | nevcairiel | but isnt the elite just a bunch of useless toy-features anyway |
| 16:21.49 | Amarande | though that may have relaxed in later years, the $1100 for the hotel at Dragon*Con in 2012 went thru just fine |
| 16:21.52 | Fisker | I thought I heard when it was announced that it was what the oculus would ship with |
| 16:22.10 | Fisker | I'm not sure you're talking about an actual limit |
| 16:22.30 | Fisker | That just sounds like the usual anti-fraud thing kicking in |
| 16:22.41 | Fisker | Either way whether there is a limit or not is irrelevant |
| 16:23.05 | Fisker | there's not anything stopping us here from charging an absolutely absurd amount of money through our payment cards |
| 16:23.14 | Amarande | however, unless you have an AmEx, I doubt you'd have a 60k euro credit limit, and at least on this side of the pond, charges that go over your limit usually get declined with "over limit" |
| 16:23.49 | Fisker | I could go to the nearest(and only probably) tesla dealer, buy a tesla and then just swipe my card |
| 16:24.01 | Fisker | My bank would be fucking furious the next day, but the payment would go through |
| 16:24.11 | Amarande | all the huge credit limit cards in the States pretty much died out in 2009 when the banks wanted TARP money so they had to look distressed enough, which they couldn't do without chopping people's limits down to size |
| 16:24.45 | Amarande | actually caused a huge disaster, because the limit cuts utterly wrecked people's usage ratios and caused their credit ratings to plummet, which had a cascading effect on other limits and rates |
| 16:26.35 | Lopeppeppy | And then there was the housing bubble and we all died from the plague. |
| 16:26.44 | Amarande | Peppy: that was after the housing bubble |
| 16:27.14 | Amarande | the plague, well, that'll be next, once we enter the post-antibiotics age completely enough heh |
| 16:27.27 | Fisker | Here it's not actually a credit line |
| 16:27.41 | Fisker | The card is just directly associated with a bank account |
| 16:27.49 | Amarande | ah, a debit card |
| 16:27.54 | Fisker | No |
| 16:28.33 | nevcairiel | its a credit card that just draws from your bank accoutn directly, its common in the EU where we dont hand out free credit cards to everyone |
| 16:28.46 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 16:28.57 | nevcairiel | we also have separate debit cards that work differently, usually maestro or v-pay |
| 16:29.20 | Fisker | I don't have a credit on my account but I could withdraw into the negative if I wanted to |
| 16:29.24 | Amarande | yeah, even your Visa bank card usually has a $2500 or so daily purchase limit in the states |
| 16:30.14 | Fisker | We have something similar |
| 16:30.41 | karl_w_w | US$132 shipping cost = Oculus Rift is dead to me. |
| 16:31.03 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:31.10 | nevcairiel | was â¬42 shipping to europe |
| 16:31.25 | Fisker | I can withdraw for "infinite" (probably not really but an absurdly high amount) but I'm limited to withdraw 5k a month |
| 16:31.41 | Fisker | So if I withdraw 6k I can do that |
| 16:31.44 | nevcairiel | overall it cost me USD 796 with EU price and EU shipping, possibly not even including customs fees |
| 16:31.50 | Fisker | But I won't be able to use it for the rest of the month |
| 16:32.09 | Fisker | EU price is customs included |
| 16:32.19 | nevcairiel | i hope so |
| 16:32.28 | Fisker | Says it is |
| 16:33.58 | Fisker | So basically I just figured I'd casually spend like 75k euro ava labs new in massive issues just to see if it would happen :D |
| 16:35.07 | Amarande | karl_w_w, what are you looking at, overnight air? |
| 16:35.34 | karl_w_w | for that im expecting to be hand delivered by a busty maiden |
| 16:35.39 | Amarande | I don't have a good enough video card ... GTX 770 2GB is too old, plus that's at my fiancee's place, it's *definitely* not going to work with my thinkpad with HD 3000 integrated graphics :) |
| 16:36.01 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/em34IP1.jpg |
| 16:36.06 | Amarande | karl_w_w, are you sure it's actually the oculus rift you're really interested in? :) |
| 16:38.36 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 16:39.39 | Amarande | you sounded awfully fixated on that busty maiden heh |
| 16:40.03 | nevcairiel | who wouldnt be |
| 16:41.34 | karl_w_w | hope the vive is competitively priced and delivered by regular guys driving vans |
| 16:41.55 | Ressy | I have a motherboard & CPU again |
| 16:41.56 | karl_w_w | I've closed the page, it's definitely not happening |
| 16:42.13 | karl_w_w | unless that price turns out to be AUD which is highly unlikely |
| 16:42.26 | Fisker | Where did they put the disk, GPU and PSU? |
| 16:42.38 | karl_w_w | do they work Ressy? :P |
| 16:42.48 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: it switched to euros for me, fwiw, so maybe it did for you as well |
| 16:42.55 | Constie | I might get a new motherboard and CPU in a couple of weeks. My CPU is starting to feel a little slow. |
| 16:42.56 | nevcairiel | it not being entirely obvious is a bit bad though |
| 16:44.45 | karl_w_w | $650 aussie is $460 US |
| 16:44.48 | karl_w_w | not a chance |
| 16:44.50 | Amarande | Constie, it's not our fault you chose AMD :( |
| 16:46.13 | karl_w_w | good thing people who backed the kickstarter at $350 or whatever it was and got a DK1 also get the final thing for free |
| 16:46.27 | nevcairiel | yeah that was nice of them |
| 16:46.28 | karl_w_w | wonder how they afforded that |
| 16:47.16 | Constie | I chose AMD? |
| 16:48.06 | Amarande | Constie: I'm not sure how else your CPU would start feeling a little slow |
| 16:48.22 | Amarande | at least, in a way that can be improved, because Intel IPC improvements have been pretty lukewarm in the post-Sandy era |
| 16:48.41 | nevcairiel | he didnt say how old his was =p |
| 16:48.49 | nevcairiel | maybe still on core2 |
| 16:48.56 | Amarande | going from AMD to Intel's a huge jump though, my laptop Sandy seems to be at least as snappy as my 4.3 GHz AMD FX space heater was |
| 16:56.14 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_tw |
| 16:57.08 | Constie | I'm using an i5-2500K, which is still fine for running new games, but often not enough to record them at 60 FPS instead of 30, which has become more of a thing since I got this CPU. |
| 16:58.47 | Amarande | ah, you might want to bump up to an i7 (supposedly hyperthreading helps video recording/encoding) |
| 16:59.13 | Amarande | Sandy might be old enough for Haswell/Skylake to be a noticeable upgrade too (each individual intel generation has gotten rather lukewarm lately though) |
| 17:34.32 | Ressy | karl_w_w: I don't have the rest of the system.. Its at home. |
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| 18:17.45 | kd3 | hm, looks like I need to upgrade my 660ti to something in the 900 series |
| 18:19.43 | Fisker | Good kd3 |
| 18:19.49 | Fisker | What are the requirements? |
| 18:20.39 | kd3 | think a 960/980 and a recent i7-class processor |
| 18:21.17 | kd3 | http://www.pcgamer.com/oculus-rift-pc-requirements-revealed/ |
| 18:21.38 | Fisker | That's ok |
| 18:24.06 | nevcairiel | more like 970, 960 is quite a bit slower |
| 18:24.40 | kd3 | I'm upgrading from a 660ti and a 3570k, so it's a big boost either way |
| 18:24.55 | nevcairiel | not that great on the cpu, but sure |
| 18:29.25 | nevcairiel | if you are patient, waiting for the next gen from AMD and NVIDIA would definitely be worth it, the performance gains will be huge this time around |
| 18:30.09 | Fisker | I wouldn't really upgrade your GPU to a CPU |
| 19:10.42 | mckenziemc | upgrades Fisker's video card to a floppy drive. |
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| 19:38.40 | kd3 | yeowch! an suv getting struck by lightning: http://i.imgur.com/49EUIEe.gifv |
| 19:39.00 | kd3 | though it's a fake, nvm |
| 19:40.21 | nevcairiel | actually looks like the manhole gets hit by lightning =p |
| 19:40.28 | nevcairiel | in any case, cars are rather safe |
| 19:58.44 | mckenziemc | well, the inside is |
| 20:09.20 | Constie | Well, people inside of cars are. No one ever asks the cars how they feel about it... |
| 20:14.52 | mikma | http://www.brokenjoysticks.net/2016/01/05/star-wars-open-world-rpg-kickstarter-showcases-game-development-dillusions/ |
| 20:17.18 | Mr_Rabies | this should cover things pretty well, mikma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KetLDW9Afzs |
| 20:19.11 | Mr_Rabies | i can't help but feel the star wars kickstarter guy used this video as actual information |
| 20:29.21 | mckenziemc | what's a dillusion mikma? |
| 20:33.41 | mckenziemc | throws a pickle at Torhal. |
| 20:42.00 | kd3 | blind battletoads? wtf |
| 20:49.45 | Shirik | Random spam time: https://www.facebook.com/matt.d.buono/posts/10100727176908838 |
| 20:49.52 | Shirik | come work with me! ^ |
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| 20:53.03 | mikma | mckenziemc: dude is asking money for a game he does not have coders, licenses... etc ;) |
| 20:59.52 | mckenziemc | so he's a fake pickle? |
| 21:03.16 | mckenziemc | Shirik: no |
| 21:03.19 | mckenziemc | i'm not good enough :( |
| 21:03.31 | Shirik | uh |
| 21:03.54 | Shirik | unless you don't have any computer science degree, it's hard to be "not good enough" for the lowest level position there |
| 21:04.24 | mckenziemc | i don't have a degree yet |
| 21:06.19 | Arrow|work | i have a network engineering degree, not computer science.... |
| 21:06.54 | Shirik | mckenziemc: there's also a summer intern position there |
| 21:06.58 | Shirik | if you're currently enrolled |
| 21:07.24 | Shirik | Arrow|work: honestly I can't speak to what HR would say, but I think you have enough CS skills to apply from a technical perspective |
| 21:07.52 | Arrow|work | i dont like programming though |
| 21:08.11 | Shirik | well then you probably shouldn't apply :P |
| 21:08.38 | mckenziemc | lol |
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| 21:51.27 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: consider this when buying VR https://twitter.com/RoboticSteve/status/684774028960231426 |
| 21:51.44 | nevcairiel | i live alone |
| 21:52.19 | Gnarfoz | fartburglars don't care |
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| 22:18.10 | kd3 | well that's a bit awkward... ants are nesting in one of our security cameras in the office |
| 22:19.19 | Constie | Oh, like you've never nested in a security camera. |
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| 22:30.00 | Semlar | are your cameras filled with sand kd3? |
| 22:30.47 | Semlar | maybe they just found a tasty treat |
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