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| 00:00.59 | Neffi | did you broke freenode Semlar |
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| 01:28.58 | pompy | Activision-Blizzard may have bought MLG...haven't seen anything official yet though. |
| 01:35.06 | Dagmar | It's been all over the gaming news sites, so... probably legit |
| 01:35.11 | Dagmar | Also, it's not April 1st |
| 01:35.47 | pompy | the only legit gaming news site ive seen it on is ign. |
| 01:36.20 | pompy | i remember a thing a while back about them doing something with esports .. but todays news i guess just confirmed them finalizing it |
| 01:36.40 | pompy | dunno |
| 01:37.46 | Amarande | ActiBlizzard buying an esports league? |
| 01:38.00 | Dagmar | No, esportsleague are the people they didn't buy, actually. Heh |
| 01:38.21 | Dagmar | At first I thought they were talking about spanish-speakers |
| 01:47.23 | Mr_Rabies | >legit |
| 01:47.25 | Mr_Rabies | >ign |
| 01:47.26 | Mr_Rabies | pick one |
| 01:52.43 | pompy | indeed |
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| 01:59.13 | Amarande | yeah, the last time I particularly cared about IGN was when Neverwinter Nights was still a happening thing |
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| 01:59.48 | mckenziemc | the last time we particularly cared about what Amarande had to say was _____. |
| 02:01.18 | Mr_Rabies | i pretty much just get my gaming news from /v/ and vinesauce at this point, the gaming blog sites have gotten so bad i'd literally rather rely on 4chan |
| 02:02.56 | Mr_Rabies | like, if i want to know if fallout 4 is any good, i could just tune into vinny's stream at any point and see for myself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR3WRvuk1Ok |
| 02:06.19 | Dagmar | Actually, yeah, the ease with which one can stream to Twitch/Steam makes vetting new games a crapton easier |
| 02:06.30 | Dagmar | ...and also makes one feel like less of an idiot about Elite: Dangerous |
| 02:06.33 | Mr_Rabies | since they've all but killed game demos |
| 02:06.49 | Mr_Rabies | it's pretty much either that or pirate the game if you want to check it out, first |
| 02:07.43 | Dagmar | Seriously tho... E:D really needs some damn dovs |
| 02:07.45 | Dagmar | er docs |
| 02:08.26 | Dagmar | "Rescue some hostages? Okay... There's guy guy with the hostages... Umm... Maybe I target his engines? *distant explosion, screams cut-off* Okay, maybe not that." |
| 02:09.24 | Mr_Rabies | clearly you drive a beam saber through the cockpit to avoid hitting the engine and destroying the space colony |
| 02:09.43 | Mr_Rabies | (i would kill for a gundam-esque game with realistic things like E:D) |
| 02:10.14 | Dagmar | My personal favorite is being told to go scan a console attached to a terminal somewhere. Except there's 40 damn turrets, and when you get within the perimeter, they start _fining_ you |
| 02:10.32 | Dagmar | ...and about 30 seconds later THEN they start shooting at you. |
| 02:11.12 | Dagmar | I racked up abotu 24,000 in fines before I finally decided "you know what, f**k this entire system and its drama" |
| 02:11.34 | Dagmar | I'm not paying those fines. I'll just give them a week to decide I'm dead. |
| 02:11.50 | Dagmar | It's a big galaxy. |
| 02:12.40 | Dagmar | From all the streams, I can tell very few people are even trying those yet, and when they do, their results are seldom any different. heh |
| 02:13.02 | Dagmar | I can rescue escape pods and other lost junk. It'll have to do for ow. |
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| 02:13.33 | Dagmar | At least I know better than to try flying through a planet's rings. |
| 02:29.39 | Amarande | yeah, flying through a planet's rings is like trying to drive horizontally across I-75 in Atlanta :p |
| 02:29.47 | Dagmar | Just about |
| 02:30.27 | Dagmar | First night ED:H was out I was watching a stream where a guy got down real close to some rings and was skimming them at top speed, having never had a single science class ever apparently. |
| 02:30.44 | Dagmar | Half the chat window was people going "OH GOD STOP!" |
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| 02:31.15 | Dagmar | Luckily for him it does an emergency frame drop |
| 02:31.38 | Dagmar | ...and five minutes later he managed to boost right into an asteroid anyway |
| 02:31.44 | Dagmar | Physics are hard, apparently. |
| 02:32.27 | Dagmar | There'd be an ugly exploit for that right now if the galaxy weren't so big |
| 02:32.41 | Dagmar | One can actually wind up _inside_ a planet. |
| 02:36.52 | Dagmar | Getting back out, on the other hand, is gonna mess up the paint job a bit |
| 02:38.21 | Mr_Rabies | i've done that a few times going to dragoncon, Amarande |
| 02:38.39 | Mr_Rabies | to be fair, the road was basically a parking lot and it took me about 20 minutes to get from one side of the road to the other |
| 02:39.23 | Dagmar | Atlanta Rush Hour: Not only do you not need a car, you'll regret owning one |
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| 02:40.13 | Mr_Rabies | only if you feel like hiking for miles in the heat and humidity and homeless people do you not need a car :v |
| 02:40.50 | Dagmar | That's when you get an apartment near the office or telecommute |
| 02:41.04 | Dagmar | It's a wonder owning a car doesn't raise your health insurance rates there |
| 02:43.15 | Amarande | Dagmar: I'm not sure all that much is allowed to raise your health insurance rates anymore |
| 02:43.20 | Amarande | Thanks, Obama :) |
| 02:43.56 | Amarande | unless that's just for the exchange plans, which are basically a scam anyway |
| 02:44.51 | Amarande | (let's face it, if I get a bronze plan I need to basically incur about $8500 in healthcare costs in one year in order for it to actually have been worth it ... if I end up having to spend $8500 on healthcare in a year my credit's probably going to be shot anyway, sooo ... heh) |
| 02:49.36 | kd3|hate`net | glad I don't have to deal with atlanta traffic any more... |
| 02:49.46 | kd3 | now I deal with oakland/sf traffic |
| 02:49.53 | kd3 | which is it's own version of fucked |
| 02:50.12 | kd3 | but at least bay area drivers generally know how to zipper merge |
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| 06:14.50 | Semlar | alright neffi, i've decided math is dumb |
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| 06:19.29 | mckenziemc | you mean you're dumb |
| 06:19.45 | Semlar | your face is dumb |
| 06:20.45 | mckenziemc | smarter than yours apparently |
| 06:21.00 | Semlar | don't see you answering this challenge |
| 06:21.16 | mckenziemc | and? |
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| 06:32.15 | Simca | Semlar: can you use more than one function? |
| 06:32.30 | Semlar | yes |
| 06:32.48 | Semlar | i made a recursive function that solves it but it's too computationally expensive |
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| 06:32.58 | Simca | that's what I would have done |
| 06:33.11 | Semlar | there's a limit on how much time you can use |
| 06:33.43 | mckenziemc | underclocks Semlar. |
| 06:34.02 | Simca | you probably need more prediction then |
| 06:34.24 | Simca | i.e. if you are in a square that is 5 squares away from the rightmost square and you have 4 rolls left |
| 06:34.29 | Simca | the game is invalid, skip recursion |
| 06:37.03 | Simca | depends on the scenario but like 95%+ of results are going to be invalid games, so if you pare down some of that, you might have enough time |
| 06:39.48 | Semlar | i only ran it on valid movements |
| 06:40.17 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure they want you to come up with a formula for the permutations |
| 06:40.47 | Simca | that's incredibly difficult compared to the alternative |
| 06:40.58 | mckenziemc | no, they want you to provide a function implementation that meets the requirements |
| 06:41.00 | Simca | i would have just did what you did, then added some prediction and some caching |
| 06:42.02 | Semlar | i don't know, it's on "level 4" out of 5 and it's in the math category |
| 06:43.05 | mckenziemc | i wonder if the modulo operation is a hint to a shortcut |
| 06:43.27 | Semlar | it does seem weirdly tacked onto the end there |
| 06:43.59 | Simca | well i mean it's also a leaderboard without scores |
| 06:44.08 | Semlar | >_> |
| 06:44.09 | Simca | the premise isn't exactly sound either |
| 06:44.30 | Semlar | i mean, compared to the rest of it, applying % 123454321 to your answer is nothing |
| 06:44.44 | mckenziemc | the "leaderboard" is "this minion played this valid game first" |
| 06:46.12 | Simca | what are the time requirements, semlar? |
| 06:46.16 | mckenziemc | well, i guess they don't associate names |
| 06:46.36 | Semlar | i don't know, all i know is there's a limit on how much processing it can take up |
| 06:46.54 | Semlar | runs pretty quick on my computer but it times out on the solution so fails the test |
| 06:48.02 | Semlar | granted on something like 1000 rolls with 500 tiles it might choke up |
| 06:48.07 | Semlar | maybe i can optimize this more |
| 06:50.06 | Simca | definitely recommend checking before you 'roll 1-3' "if (remainingDistance > remainingRolls) return;" |
| 06:51.11 | Semlar | yeah it never goes down a path it can't complete |
| 06:51.43 | Semlar | i think it's just too many calculations |
| 06:52.29 | Semlar | running answer(1000, 500) is actually quite slow |
| 06:53.28 | Simca | you could add some form of caching so that it looks up in a table whether or not it has taken all of the paths from this tile to the end with that number of rolls |
| 06:54.06 | Simca | but that is a lot of work |
| 06:54.23 | mckenziemc | search for the answer on google! |
| 06:54.28 | Semlar | that would be cheating! |
| 06:55.05 | Semlar | you could stop at 123454321 iterations but i don't know how you'd get the remainder |
| 06:55.30 | mckenziemc | just put a comment in the code saying it's not yours, then you're being resourceful :D |
| 06:55.43 | Semlar | i could outsource this to india.. |
| 06:56.06 | Simca | i would probably look up the answer just for the idea of what to do, then close it and write my own solution |
| 06:56.22 | Simca | that's what i usually do if stuck on schoolwork |
| 06:56.47 | Semlar | i tried making a sandwich but that didn't seem to help |
| 06:57.15 | mckenziemc | o.o |
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| 09:09.19 | mckenziemc | there are better things i should be doing than trying to solve Semlar's challenge |
| 09:09.29 | Semlar | i disagree |
| 09:09.30 | mckenziemc | like going to sleep... |
| 09:09.53 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it still counts if i can get someone else to do it for me |
| 09:10.32 | mckenziemc | that would make you a minion using a minion to use minions |
| 09:11.52 | mckenziemc | i tried looking at it as a question of how you would generate valid sequences, but no breakthroughs thus far :( |
| 09:12.07 | Semlar | my computer has been trying to brute force the solution to answer(100, 50) for the last 45 minutes |
| 09:12.14 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 09:12.24 | Semlar | i have a feeling that's not going to work |
| 09:16.24 | mckenziemc | i made a spreadsheet to match a graph of position to a representation of the moves without stays as a binary number |
| 09:19.00 | Semlar | my equation involves a number with 4 exclamation points after it, this is getting out of hand |
| 09:19.13 | Semlar | i should go to sleep |
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| 10:06.29 | Semlar | alright i figured it out |
| 10:07.14 | mckenziemc | you think, or it worked? |
| 10:07.56 | Semlar | well, i figured out the equation if you leave out lefts, but i should be able to figure out the rest of it from there |
| 10:12.40 | mckenziemc | well i'd appreciate a copy of your answer so i can compare mine if i finish with this approach :o |
| 10:16.47 | Semlar | if you're only counting rights and stays, it's t! / (n-1)! / (t - (n-1))! |
| 10:16.52 | mckenziemc | with x nodes, how many different ways can i arrange them into a tree where each tree can have multiple children :o |
| 10:17.17 | Semlar | i'll work on lefts tomorrow |
| 10:17.18 | mckenziemc | each node* can have multiple |
| 10:18.45 | mckenziemc | not sure how to go about solving this sub-problem :( |
| 10:22.39 | Semlar | "The Quick Method for Obtaining the Precise Ratio of Division of a Circle volume III" |
| 10:23.31 | mckenziemc | wat |
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| 10:25.41 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:26.25 | mckenziemc | interesting notion of a break, Semlar |
| 10:26.36 | Semlar | i thought i'd do some light reading |
| 10:54.56 | mckenziemc | stabs Semlar tangentially. |
| 10:55.43 | Semlar | rolls mckenziemc in sperner's lemma |
| 10:56.19 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 10:59.19 | mckenziemc | do you ever sleep Semlar |
| 10:59.34 | Semlar | no |
| 10:59.53 | mckenziemc | so you're like me |
| 10:59.58 | mckenziemc | you sleep whenever you're not awake |
| 11:01.12 | mckenziemc | nor anesthetized nor comatose i guess o.o |
| 11:03.50 | mckenziemc | guess he passed out |
| 11:12.39 | Semlar | can't sleep math will eat me |
| 11:14.41 | mckenziemc | i opened a tab to Dyck language and firefox froze =/ |
| 11:16.05 | mckenziemc | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_number https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyck_language found after i already invested time into trying to figure out the math :( |
| 11:17.24 | mckenziemc | (i'm treating Left rolls in that google problem as part of balanced pairs of moves) |
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| 11:29.56 | karl_w_w | jeez mckenziemc don't catastrophize in public |
| 11:33.20 | mckenziemc | stabs karl_w_w secantly. |
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| 12:08.24 | mckenziemc | damn Semlar this is hard :( |
| 12:08.49 | znf | How to be stupid in 3 steps |
| 12:08.55 | znf | 1. Use VNC remote install to install a new server |
| 12:09.01 | znf | 2. Try to reconfigure networking |
| 12:09.13 | znf | 3. Stupidly click "off" on the wrong ethernet port in Anaconda |
| 12:11.05 | Simca | How to hey in 2 steps |
| 12:11.07 | Simca | 1. Fisker |
| 12:11.08 | Simca | 2. Hey |
| 12:11.15 | mckenziemc | hey Simca |
| 12:11.33 | Simca | hey mckenziemc |
| 12:11.53 | Fisker | hey Fisker |
| 12:12.02 | mckenziemc | ~trout Fisker |
| 12:12.02 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout! |
| 12:12.08 | znf | honestly, enp1s0f0 is retarded |
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| 12:37.12 | Simca | i'm determined to do the winter veil dailies on all my toons before the event ends in 1.5 hrs |
| 12:37.26 | Simca | despite the fact that i didn't do them daily on my most of my toons for the whole event >.> |
| 12:51.42 | Fisker | Hey Simca |
| 12:52.03 | Simca | Hey Fisker |
| 12:52.24 | Fisker | My heys are superior |
| 12:52.55 | Simca | because the power of capitalization? |
| 12:53.07 | Simca | or the incredible redundancy |
| 12:53.33 | mckenziemc | better safe than sorry Simca |
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| 13:09.10 | znf | better safe than Simca |
| 13:09.23 | Simca | a true statement |
| 13:12.39 | mckenziemc | better Simca than Semlar though |
| 13:13.10 | Simca | wow poor Semlar |
| 13:14.14 | znf | yeah, I heard he's poor |
| 13:15.41 | mckenziemc | maybe he won't be if he solves that puzzle |
| 13:18.14 | mckenziemc | i might have to give in and use google search |
| 13:18.57 | mckenziemc | i planned on learning python this month so i might be doing a bunch of related searches anyway :D |
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| 13:55.15 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:56.23 | foxlit | 305045354491290962333324378028160068 without the silly modulo. |
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| 16:01.34 | VIad | hmm. does the game have a name-realm to GUID system? for instance I noticed that the chat provides GUIDs - feels weird to need an addon to parse chat messages to create a GUID store for name-realm to GUID conversion. any tips? |
| 16:03.02 | nevcairiel | you cant get guids from arbitrary people you have not interacted with in any way |
| 16:11.20 | VIad | but the chat... |
| 16:11.33 | nevcairiel | chat is interaction =p |
| 16:11.35 | VIad | most api I find requires like a unitid but you have the chat |
| 16:11.36 | VIad | yes |
| 16:11.44 | VIad | GetGUID("Bob-Roflrealm") |
| 16:11.49 | VIad | we dont have any api like that |
| 16:12.04 | foxlit | we also don't have an API to drop the moon on viad's house |
| 16:12.07 | VIad | but can make an addon to cache and provide,just seems a bit weird the game api dont got that |
| 16:12.20 | VIad | we got a api to get info from a known guid so thats nice |
| 16:13.16 | VIad | I guess I have to make a lib unless there is one from before :p |
| 16:13.43 | foxlit | make a lib for the moon thing first, please. |
| 16:14.41 | VIad | ok I shall |
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| 17:25.34 | mikma | shirik: https://youtu.be/XYoTrI5RE-k?t=5m15s |
| 17:29.48 | Mr_Rabies | shirik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u61F_qvdid0 |
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| 17:57.22 | Shirik | mikma: :D |
| 17:57.25 | Shirik | Mr_Rabies: :o |
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| 18:20.59 | mikma | mr_rabies: perfect. |
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| 19:02.33 | Mr_Rabies | the way the credits scroll over the last frame, the explosion |
| 19:02.39 | Mr_Rabies | is absolute genius |
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| 19:50.13 | VIad | sometimes the game DC me when I glide on my glider and I land - only when I land :p |
| 19:50.14 | VIad | weird |
| 19:50.20 | VIad | had that with my deterrence a while ago |
| 19:56.56 | Gnarfoz | oh? https://bits.debian.org/2015/12/mourning-ian-murdock.html oh. :| |
| 20:00.31 | Dagmar | I still can't figure out WTF was up with the guy |
| 20:00.42 | Dagmar | Something was very wrong there, and I don't think it was just the police dept |
| 20:01.14 | Gnarfoz | he was in the Police? |
| 20:01.32 | Dagmar | No, but he wound up having to deal with the cops twice in one night |
| 20:01.46 | Dagmar | Something to do with a neighbor of his |
| 20:02.16 | Dagmar | My only guess is an allergic reaction to something, and the medics somehow missed it during the first incident |
| 20:02.33 | Dagmar | When you see the tweets you'll be wondering yourself |
| 20:02.49 | Gnarfoz | what tweets :O |
| 20:02.57 | Dagmar | You didn't see them? Un moment |
| 20:03.49 | Dagmar | This is close enough http://techaeris.com/2016/01/01/ian-murdock-did-have-an-altercation-with-police-before-his-death/ |
| 20:04.38 | nevcairiel | rumors also are he planned to commit suicide and tweeted as much, but if he actually did was never confirmed .. although dying in the same night as you tweet you are going to kill yourself ... |
| 20:04.42 | Dagmar | Apparently the cops came because of a report of someone trying to break in around 11pm, he was nearby and matched the description, so they stopped him and things got a bit um... difficult |
| 20:05.17 | Dagmar | They wound up putting him in a patrol car, and then took him to see some medics who cleared him, and then they let him go |
| 20:05.35 | Dagmar | 'round 2:40am or so, same thing happens again, but this time when they get there he's pounding on the neighbor's door |
| 20:05.51 | Dagmar | At that point they just arrested him |
| 20:06.37 | Dagmar | The neighborhood he was in is _super_ calm. I used to live about four blocks away |
| 20:06.39 | Gnarfoz | that's... a lot of odd in one night |
| 20:06.43 | Dagmar | Yeah. |
| 20:07.34 | Dagmar | A toxicology report from the ME might shed some light on WTF was the root cause |
| 20:09.12 | Gnarfoz | sad :( |
| 20:09.15 | Dagmar | Very |
| 20:09.25 | Gnarfoz | anyway, just came across it because someone linked https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2015/12/msg00446.html on some other network |
| 20:11.17 | Dagmar | _That_ person can go fuck themselves |
| 20:11.33 | Amarande | Dagmar: there was also talk about it on /r/BadCopNoDonut |
| 20:12.03 | Dagmar | Yeah I'd like to believe the cops were at fault, but they wouldn't have just let him go the first time around if they were looking to stomp the guy |
| 20:12.28 | Dagmar | SF actually has _beat_ cops who basically roam the neighborhood making sure people are doing okay |
| 20:12.42 | nevcairiel | sounds to me like the guy had plenty problems to begin with |
| 20:12.43 | Amarande | in SF they probably pretty much have to |
| 20:12.53 | Amarande | given how much of the population is forced to sleep rough :S |
| 20:13.13 | Dagmar | There's some parts of town where they can be hardasses (like the 'loin) but Western Addition isn't one of those areas |
| 20:15.07 | Dagmar | That benjamin barber cat is basically making shit up |
| 20:15.55 | Amarande | Dagmar: though what's really sad is that knocking on the neighbour's door elicits police response these days |
| 20:16.05 | Dagmar | Ian was actually married to Debra at the time he started Debian, so... not being used as a trophy. |
| 20:16.07 | Amarande | it's like there's no longer really a such functional notion as a 'neighbourhood' anymore |
| 20:16.21 | Amarande | just more or less strangers who happen to live at similar addresses :| |
| 20:16.33 | Dagmar | Yeah, I'm figuring the neighbor calling hte cops was possibly overkill, but people can packed together can sometimes be dicks about noise |
| 20:17.03 | Dagmar | Ian was defintely not a white supremacist |
| 20:18.29 | Dagmar | Nothing of either of those incidents should have resulted in a strip search as alluded to in those tweets |
| 20:18.57 | Dagmar | ...and strip searches are _not_ something that are supposed to have opposite-gender officers involved |
| 20:19.06 | Amarande | Then there's the whole dying so soon after he said he was going to dedicate his life to fighting the cops |
| 20:19.42 | Dagmar | He may have been having a bad reaction to a medication change |
| 20:19.59 | Dagmar | I've certainly seen that make people non-lucid before |
| 20:33.12 | Gnarfoz | http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ :\ at first I thought they hadn't reset their counters for 2016, yet |
| 20:34.22 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: new years is probably a favorite day for gun suicide |
| 20:35.03 | nevcairiel | its interesting that the new just dont even report about any of these things anymore |
| 20:35.07 | nevcairiel | news* |
| 20:35.54 | Gnarfoz | gets lost in the noise |
| 20:36.13 | Gnarfoz | they do link to sources for all of those, and many seem to be news |
| 20:36.28 | Gnarfoz | (click the number) |
| 20:39.53 | Amarande | intentionally gets lost in the noise, actually |
| 20:40.35 | Amarande | plenty of things of actual social and political importance do, whenever it makes some powerful interest group uncomfortable they make sure there's something to report about the Kardashians or whatnot to distract people |
| 20:41.24 | Amarande | or some horrible terror attack happens and everyone forgets about everything else for days, which is sadly plenty for most media/social momentums to be entirely disrupted |
| 20:42.10 | Gnarfoz | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/30/software-developers-helped-end-ebola-epidemic-sierra-leone that sounds like a 32C3 talk worth watching |
| 20:43.04 | Amarande | ... it's no wonder so many people think the government has their hands in the terror apparatus all Darth Sidious style :| |
| 20:50.58 | Gnarfoz | ah, that particular recording hasn't been published, yet, and the stream-recording (http://streaming.media.ccc.de/32c3/relive/7561/ starts at 15:00) has a nasty buzzing from the Skype call |
| 20:52.56 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/tTmDc5d.gifv |
| 20:58.37 | Semlar | when you can't find a ramp but you have a second larger forklift |
| 20:59.13 | Gnarfoz | that seems like a totally sensible thing to do |
| 20:59.33 | Gnarfoz | a ramp would have probably only complicated the entire endeavour |
| 21:00.27 | Semlar | why is the container like 6 feet off the ground |
| 21:01.13 | Gnarfoz | looks like it's parked |
| 21:02.00 | Gnarfoz | http://voicesofny.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/shipping-containers-loading-van-DNAinfo.jpg |
| 21:02.12 | Semlar | http://www.ragepowersports.com/images/products/together_split.jpg |
| 21:03.14 | Gnarfoz | that would still mean the thing being carried would have to go... whatever "not upright" is |
| 21:03.26 | Gnarfoz | leaning |
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| 21:44.29 | Guill | Happy New Year everyone :) |
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| 22:12.27 | Semlar | happy new year's guill |
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