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| 00:52.14 | Semlar | ports torhal to python |
| 00:52.47 | Torhal | embeds Semlar in Amarande's home. |
| 00:52.58 | Semlar | you wouldn't |
| 00:53.52 | Torhal | I'll have Neffi do it. |
| 00:54.18 | Semlar | NEFFI WOULDN'T |
| 00:54.30 | mckenziemc | i would |
| 00:54.40 | Semlar | why do you even know where he lives |
| 00:55.00 | mckenziemc | i don't have to presently know to be told |
| 00:55.13 | Neffi | I would so |
| 00:55.25 | Semlar | what does he have on you neffi |
| 00:55.39 | Neffi | cats. lots of cats. |
| 00:55.42 | Neffi | they're everywhere |
| 00:55.45 | Neffi | can't escape |
| 00:55.49 | Neffi | send help |
| 00:55.55 | Semlar | i'll send the k9 unit |
| 00:56.06 | Neffi | he has one of those too! |
| 00:56.23 | Semlar | alright i'll get the alligators |
| 00:56.33 | Neffi | thx :3 |
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| 01:15.47 | Torhal | skins Semlar's alligator and crafts a suit for Neffi. |
| 01:16.05 | Torhal | sics his Neffigator on mckenziemc. |
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| 01:37.57 | Neffi | but croc skin is so gaudy, Torhal |
| 01:40.41 | Simca | is there any API left that refers to (what the DBCs call) SkillLineID? (example SkillLines: Plate, Dual Wield, Language: Common, Cooking, Pet - Voidwalker, Warrior Skills) |
| 01:43.19 | Simca | blizzard's consistency is making it hard to follow, since they use the words 'skillID', 'tradeskillID', and 'skillLineID' to describe the exact same variable |
| 01:44.01 | mckenziemc | sounds like they have a lot of skill |
| 01:44.08 | Simca | I swear the UI people live to name things differently than the DB people |
| 01:48.09 | Simca | looks like there is nothing to call it by ID |
| 01:48.20 | Simca | it's one of those ancient APIs that only uses index |
| 01:48.42 | Simca | and then gives you back skillLineID if you picked the right index by chance |
| 01:54.51 | Torhal | What if Neffi picks a left index by decree? |
| 01:55.06 | Neffi | then you will use that index and you will be happy about it |
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| 02:06.53 | Semlar | you could iterate over all the indexes and store the IDs in a table |
| 02:10.54 | mckenziemc | stores Semlar in an ephemeral table. |
| 02:12.22 | Semlar | hashes mckenziemc + 'Q1P7W2E4J9R8U3S5' |
| 02:13.57 | Neffi | thx for your password |
| 02:14.21 | Semlar | keep it secret, keep it safe |
| 02:14.38 | Torhal | stores Semlar in a secret safe. |
| 02:14.50 | Semlar | delivers torhal to neffi |
| 02:15.11 | Torhal | And the Semlar shall deliver ye unto the arms of your Neffi! |
| 02:15.31 | mckenziemc | dereferences 0xDEADBEEF and finds Semlar. |
| 02:16.02 | Torhal | stores the value of mckenziemc in 0xFATGOATS. |
| 02:17.42 | mckenziemc | convicts Torhal for attempting an illegal operation. |
| 02:18.44 | Torhal | thinks mckenziemc is now trying too hard. |
| 02:19.12 | mckenziemc | was eating a cookie. |
| 02:19.16 | mckenziemc | nice try though |
| 02:20.38 | Torhal | You can't eat that cookie, mckenziemc - you never agreed to the cookie disclaimer. |
| 02:20.54 | mckenziemc | no, but the cookie did |
| 02:21.23 | Torhal | Those aren't cookies, mckenziemc - they're desiccated pies. |
| 02:22.42 | mckenziemc | i'm not responsible for what you do with my waste products |
| 02:26.45 | Semlar | kinky |
| 02:28.14 | Semlar | neffi, you have failed this city |
| 02:29.45 | Semlar | nah i'm kiddin, you passed |
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| 02:37.29 | Torhal | He passed the city years ago, thankfully; we don't have to deal with evicting him now, Semlar. |
| 02:37.57 | mckenziemc | that must've hurt |
| 02:38.09 | Torhal | That your sense of aim is shit? Nah. |
| 02:38.47 | mckenziemc | o.o |
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| 02:51.38 | Torhal | I think Neffi is died, Semlar. He hasn't spoken in this channel for nearly an hour despite my efforts to include him. |
| 02:52.08 | Semlar | he's drowning in a $200 bottle of scotch |
| 02:52.33 | Torhal | I keep telling that fool to stop drinking for a month and get an actual functioning computer, but nooooo. |
| 03:13.45 | Amarande | Besides, Fireball is tastier and quite a lot cheaper |
| 03:36.50 | Neffi | no Semlar |
| 03:37.02 | Neffi | the scotch was for somebody else, and i didnt even get it |
| 03:37.13 | Neffi | i'm giving them a $270 bottle of beer though, so it's ok |
| 03:38.54 | Amarande | $270 bottle of beer? what kind is that? |
| 03:39.15 | Amarande | that sounds like a six-pack of Pabst in China ... except a six-pack of Pabst here doesn't cost you anything but your beer dignity |
| 03:39.16 | mckenziemc | the kind they dilute to make normal american beer |
| 03:39.28 | Neffi | Pabst tastes like water |
| 03:39.30 | Amarande | mckenziemc: hah |
| 03:40.02 | Neffi | Amarande: https://www.samueladams.com/craft-beers/utopias |
| 03:40.18 | Amarande | and yeah pabst is pretty much the beer equivalent of http://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/2013/04/03 :) |
| 03:40.23 | Neffi | It goes for as much as $700 a few months after release because it's limited and coveted |
| 03:41.18 | Amarande | however, in china they pay 40 bucks a bottle for it |
| 03:41.30 | Amarande | ... wow, wonder if it's worth it |
| 03:41.41 | Neffi | well, it's got a 98/100 on Beer Advocate |
| 03:41.52 | Neffi | meanwhile some excellent beers only get like high 60s and low 70s there |
| 03:42.41 | Neffi | If it's not worth it, whatever. It's not that much money for a Christmas gift, and it beats another chachke that my brother has no room for or clothes he'd rather other people didn't buy him |
| 03:44.22 | mckenziemc | gives Neffi underpants for Christmas. |
| 03:44.30 | Neffi | just what I wanted! :3 |
| 03:44.57 | Torhal | buys Neffi a 6-pack of Schlitz. |
| 03:45.20 | Neffi | :/ |
| 03:45.38 | Torhal | It tastes better than Pabst, but gives you the shits. |
| 03:45.48 | Neffi | hence the name? |
| 03:46.06 | Torhal | Probably not. |
| 03:46.11 | Neffi | oh ok |
| 03:46.13 | Torhal | Just worked out that way, I assume. |
| 03:46.16 | Neffi | can i get some leffe instead? |
| 03:48.06 | Amarande | Neffi: heh, I wish I was in a place to say that $270 was "not that much money for a Christmas gift" |
| 03:48.54 | Amarande | though yeah, it definitely beats clothes. clothes are the worst christmas gifts ever, really :p |
| 03:49.28 | Amarande | (the worst thing about clothes, too, is that the gift box size generally betrays them from the get go, as in, SIGH I know this one's a shirt) |
| 03:52.12 | Neffi | Clothes are a fine gift, but some people are picky and specifically ask others not to pick out clothes for them |
| 03:53.22 | Amarande | actually in my case I don't *always* hate getting clothes, but I try to keep the amount of storage space dedicated to clothes to a fixed, modest space |
| 03:53.40 | Amarande | and usually it's a shirt, and in recent years, the 'shirt' space has always been pretty much full |
| 03:53.58 | Amarande | (plus I work 5-6 days a week at a job that has a dress code that pretty much any shirt I'm gonna get as a gift isn't valid for) |
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| 04:03.06 | mckenziemc | you should write a treatise about the dying of clothes-gifting as a result of the growth of the service industry and its use of dress codes / uniforms, and the possible impacts on society as a whole |
| 04:03.34 | mckenziemc | just don't mention me in the acknowledgements |
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| 04:31.38 | Torhal | appoints mckenziemc as Dean of What The Fuck are People Thinking University. |
| 04:31.55 | Torhal | the* |
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| 05:37.59 | mckenziemc | what the fuck were you thinking Torhal |
| 05:38.03 | mckenziemc | feasts on Torhal thoughts. |
| 05:38.05 | mckenziemc | oh, i see |
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| 05:55.49 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 6.2.x ToC: 60200 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || Happy Birthday Torhal! |
| 05:56.02 | Cairenn | Happy Birthday Torhal! |
| 05:56.12 | mckenziemc | uh oh |
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| 06:04.30 | Torhal | Cairenn: Thank you! I turned 12 today. |
| 06:04.36 | Cairenn | Hehehe |
| 06:12.13 | Torhal | No, seriously, Cairenn: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153584279948301&set=p.10153584279948301&type=3&theater |
| 06:12.39 | Torhal | Cairenn: TL;DR go to page 3. |
| 06:13.27 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 06:14.16 | Torhal | Dude held onto that for like 28 years. |
| 06:14.24 | Cairenn | pretty awesome |
| 06:14.32 | Torhal | I haven't seen him since elementary school. |
| 06:14.35 | Torhal | Yah :) |
| 06:14.53 | Torhal | I don't even remember writing it. |
| 06:15.12 | Torhal | And though I cringe at some of the grammatical and spelling errors, I think I was rather well-spoken at 12. |
| 06:16.00 | Cairenn | quite |
| 06:16.17 | Torhal | lurves Cairenn because Birthday and approaching New Year and such. |
| 06:16.24 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:16.37 | Cairenn | loves Torhal because. |
| 06:17.08 | Torhal | That sentence clearly lacked the ending "reasons." |
| 06:17.19 | Cairenn | Newp |
| 06:17.24 | Torhal | lol |
| 06:17.25 | Cairenn | Don't need 'reasons' |
| 06:17.59 | Torhal | What about "stuff and thinga?" |
| 06:18.05 | Cairenn | Okay |
| 06:18.10 | Torhal | Heh |
| 06:18.15 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 06:19.04 | Torhal | You do know, however, Cairenn, that you should love Kaelten because he's back with his daughter for the Holiday Season. |
| 06:19.06 | Torhal | Aye? |
| 06:19.15 | Cairenn | Indeed! |
| 06:19.51 | Torhal | I'm driving 7 hours or so to Ohio for the first time in two years to see family. |
| 06:19.58 | Cairenn | Awww |
| 06:20.05 | Torhal | I have two grandmothers in their upper-eighties. |
| 06:20.08 | Cairenn | Family is good, especially during the holidays |
| 06:20.15 | Torhal | Aye, definitely. |
| 06:24.31 | mckenziemc | gives Torhal a birthday hug and goes to bed. |
| 06:28.30 | Torhal | gives mckenziemc a bed hug and goes to sleep. |
| 07:29.03 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn and hugs Cairenn |
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| 12:01.24 | KesavaTesting | kesava |
| 12:01.53 | KesavaTesting | it works yay. |
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| 13:33.02 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLNqmDOa-Ww merry christmas |
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| 15:25.43 | karl_w_w | new discovery: gingerbread with ice cream |
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| 16:42.11 | Neffi | lookin good Semlar http://i.imgur.com/tZycbOq.png |
| 17:06.56 | VIad | Neffi: I used taco as ID once |
| 17:06.57 | VIad | it worked |
| 17:28.22 | VIad | I hope for two things |
| 17:28.37 | VIad | 1. have story and quests to unlock the ability to queue dungeons relevant |
| 17:28.47 | VIad | 2. adding moving platforms client side :p |
| 17:28.57 | VIad | hitboxes to my knowledge are always fixed locations |
| 17:29.03 | VIad | and are only either on/off, never moving |
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| 17:36.04 | Semlar | neffi i'm not sure random blogs are a reputable source of information |
| 17:37.59 | Neffi | shhh |
| 17:38.02 | Neffi | just accept it |
| 17:39.25 | VIad | Neffi: plan for tonight? |
| 17:40.44 | Neffi | try to get drunk |
| 17:42.05 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 17:42.11 | Semlar | there is no try |
| 17:43.05 | mckenziemc | only fail miserably? |
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| 17:56.33 | Semlar | super(neffi, self).__init__() |
| 17:56.42 | Neffi | can you not |
| 17:56.50 | Semlar | no, sorry |
| 17:56.53 | Neffi | :( |
| 17:57.31 | foxlit | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7SNDh4xDPo |
| 17:57.35 | foxlit | there, have an hour of cutscenes. |
| 17:57.39 | Semlar | for python this is really horrible syntax |
| 17:57.54 | Neffi | "python" "horrible syntax" |
| 17:58.30 | mckenziemc | "Neffi" "horrible syntax" |
| 17:58.35 | Neffi | yes. |
| 17:59.10 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.07 | Neffi | general question for you guys and gals: if you could choose one hard sci-fi book, which would it be? |
| 18:27.38 | Neffi | already getting Seveneves by Stephenson and Aurora by Robinson, and want a third to add to those |
| 18:29.07 | Neffi | this is for my brother who's interested in astrophysics |
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| 19:20.51 | Semlar | foundation neffi |
| 19:21.03 | Neffi | is that a book? |
| 19:21.34 | Semlar | it's a series by isaac asimov |
| 19:21.42 | Neffi | Ah yes |
| 19:22.02 | Neffi | possibly. i dont want to buy him a single book from a series, but I might get the whole series since it's in paperback |
| 19:22.04 | Semlar | i thought it was boring BUT you said hard scifi |
| 19:22.10 | Neffi | :/ |
| 19:22.41 | Semlar | i also hated game of thrones if that helps |
| 19:22.55 | Neffi | are you huma |
| 19:22.55 | Neffi | n |
| 19:23.13 | Semlar | the show was good, i couldn't get more than a few pages into the book |
| 19:23.35 | Neffi | you are p cray |
| 19:23.38 | Neffi | the books were fantastic |
| 19:23.59 | Semlar | then maybe you'll like isaac asimov! |
| 19:24.24 | Neffi | it's not for me though |
| 19:24.48 | Semlar | o |
| 19:24.54 | Semlar | stop buying people stuff |
| 19:25.10 | Semlar | unless it's me |
| 19:25.10 | Neffi | i havent bought this brother anything, yet, though |
| 19:25.17 | Semlar | what i meant to say was stop buying other people stuff |
| 19:25.23 | Neffi | oh ok |
| 19:25.30 | Semlar | when you could be buying me things |
| 19:26.36 | Semlar | i find hard scifi to just mean boring scifi |
| 19:26.56 | Neffi | you are p odd |
| 19:27.00 | Semlar | I AM NOT ODD |
| 19:27.10 | Neffi | :( |
| 19:27.12 | Semlar | torhal back me up |
| 19:27.48 | Semlar | i'll take your silence to be consent |
| 19:28.03 | Neffi | no means no, Semlar |
| 19:30.00 | Semlar | no means maybe neffi |
| 19:36.22 | Neffi | i'm bored Semlar |
| 19:36.38 | Neffi | but there's not enough time to do anything meaningful before I have to get ready and leave |
| 19:39.37 | Semlar | does it have to be meaningful |
| 19:40.27 | Neffi | i guess not |
| 19:42.51 | Semlar | i don't buy people books because nobody reads them |
| 19:43.14 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.30 | Semlar | wraps foxlit's onclick handler |
| 19:45.42 | Neffi | pokes foxlit |
| 19:45.49 | Semlar | gives it to neffi as a christmas present |
| 19:45.54 | Neffi | :3 |
| 19:45.57 | Neffi | just what i wanted |
| 19:46.18 | Semlar | i know, i've been watching |
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| 19:59.32 | Shirik | oo |
| 19:59.41 | Shirik | congress just banned production of microbeads starting July 2017 |
| 20:04.00 | mikma | shirik: http://imgur.com/gallery/vJ0sYRA |
| 20:05.55 | Neffi | the hell is a microbead |
| 20:06.04 | kullervo | was about to ask the same |
| 20:06.41 | Neffi | wait, aren't they what make toothpaste abrasive? |
| 20:07.36 | foxlit | https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1321/text enjoy. |
| 20:08.03 | Neffi | http://www.popsci.com/what-are-microbeads-and-why-are-they-illegal |
| 20:10.05 | foxlit | why ARE they illegal, Neffi> |
| 20:10.17 | foxlit | wait, first, ARE they illegal, Neffi? |
| 20:10.26 | Neffi | what are you asking me |
| 20:11.10 | Simca | apparently from shit from cosmetics stuff that gets into the water supply |
| 20:11.14 | Simca | i guess |
| 20:11.33 | foxlit | Neffi: whether microbeads are illegal, I believe. |
| 20:11.57 | Neffi | why are you asking me? |
| 20:12.36 | foxlit | because it's in that URL you linked. |
| 20:13.38 | Neffi | so read it |
| 20:13.44 | Neffi | or the bone you just linked |
| 20:13.48 | Neffi | one* |
| 20:15.03 | foxlit | no, thanks. That title inspires no confidence. |
| 20:15.36 | Neffi | OK then |
| 20:15.46 | Neffi | glad we got that out of the way |
| 20:15.48 | Simca | Neffi: his beef is with the tense of the term 'are', since the law won't take effect until the future |
| 20:16.00 | Semlar | um according to this article enough microbeads are washed down the drain every day to cover.. 30,300 tennis courts in plastic |
| 20:16.27 | Neffi | maybe they mean in a microlayer of plastic |
| 20:16.35 | Semlar | that sounds like a lot |
| 20:16.49 | foxlit | it's not even a law yet. |
| 20:17.04 | Neffi | you're trying real hard to be pedantic |
| 20:17.13 | Simca | it's foxlit |
| 20:17.22 | Neffi | fair enough |
| 20:20.59 | Semlar | you can't secure-wrap OnMouseDown :( |
| 20:23.28 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.08 | mckenziemc | secure-wraps Semlar with an Arbok. |
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| 20:46.21 | pompy1 | https://www.facebook.com/mrDavidWise/photos/a.310378419011247.71958.182355055146918/909052162477200/?type=3&permPage=1 |
| 20:46.36 | mckenziemc | s/facebook//g |
| 20:54.07 | Stanzilla | https://www..com/mrDavidWise/photos/a.310378419011247.71958.182355055146918/909052162477200/?type=3&permPage=1 |
| 20:54.10 | Stanzilla | that doesn't work mckenziemc |
| 20:54.23 | mckenziemc | btw foxlit, at least one person actually understood what you were getting at, and doesn't consider it pedantic |
| 20:54.47 | Semlar | unfortunately that person is mckenziemc |
| 20:54.50 | mckenziemc | redirects Stanzilla to /dev/null |
| 21:03.22 | Semlar | my soap is sweating neffi |
| 21:03.40 | pompy1 | ~lart mckenziemc |
| 21:03.40 | purl | flings poo at mckenziemc |
| 21:06.11 | mckenziemc | s/pompy1//u(niversal) |
| 21:20.03 | Arrow|work | coworker trying to explain to an isp how fucked up their routing is right now and they wont follow his simple instructions to run a continuous ping to both ips in question |
| 21:58.30 | Neffi | Semlar: no Semlar, that doesn't make sense. But I see how you could be confused... |
| 21:58.33 | Neffi | Soap _removes_ sweat |
| 21:58.40 | Semlar | i think they're nervous |
| 21:58.48 | Neffi | they'll do fine. tell them I said so. |
| 21:58.58 | Semlar | i tried to calm them down |
| 21:59.07 | Neffi | did it work? |
| 21:59.09 | Semlar | no |
| 21:59.12 | Neffi | :( |
| 21:59.15 | Neffi | it never does |
| 21:59.23 | Semlar | i think it's because they have glycerin in them |
| 21:59.38 | Semlar | and it's pulling moisture out of the air |
| 21:59.51 | Neffi | are you making a bomb |
| 21:59.54 | Neffi | are you tyler durden |
| 22:00.21 | Neffi | why do they have glycerin? |
| 22:00.29 | mckenziemc | because soap tends to |
| 22:00.37 | mckenziemc | i think the real question is why he's making soap |
| 22:00.38 | Semlar | it's in the fats used to make it |
| 22:00.53 | Semlar | commercial soaps take the glycerin out and use it to make lotions and stuff |
| 22:01.06 | Neffi | All I know is, glycerin-based lotions tend to fuck my skin up |
| 22:01.20 | Neffi | also most soaps |
| 22:01.45 | Semlar | well most soaps don't have glycerin in them because they remove it because it's more valuable to them |
| 22:01.54 | Neffi | oh ok |
| 22:02.06 | Neffi | i wonder if your soap will destroy my skin the way most soap does |
| 22:02.12 | Semlar | i doubt it |
| 22:02.35 | Semlar | maybe you have an allergic reaction to something |
| 22:02.46 | Semlar | i highly doubt it's the glycerin |
| 22:02.50 | Neffi | unless you are evil and made it specifically to destroy the skin of people so as to bolster your stock in several companies which make the majority of their revenue on dermatological products |
| 22:02.53 | Neffi | you evil bastard |
| 22:03.08 | Neffi | yeah probably |
| 22:03.15 | Neffi | shrugs |
| 22:04.05 | mckenziemc | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallow |
| 22:04.31 | mckenziemc | i've heard the issues soap causes some people is from the tallow, but don't know if that's true or if there's really any difference |
| 22:04.47 | Semlar | assuming they even use tallow |
| 22:04.54 | Semlar | most soap is based on palm oil |
| 22:05.12 | Neffi | I'm sure somebody with the word "Dr." at the front of their name could figure out why my skin is xenophobic against sanitary products |
| 22:05.17 | Semlar | whiiiiich is horrible for the environment but that's someone else's problem |
| 22:05.21 | Neffi | But they also tend to charge money for that type of service |
| 22:05.46 | mckenziemc | Dr Semlar is cheap |
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| 22:05.51 | Semlar | what kind of soap you been usin and what does it do to your skin |
| 22:06.05 | Neffi | most soap. dries it out, gives me awful rashes all over |
| 22:06.17 | Neffi | Dove doesn't do it, fwiw, but pretty much every other common brand does |
| 22:06.25 | Semlar | dove isn't soap fwiw |
| 22:06.32 | Neffi | also much laundry detergent does it |
| 22:06.32 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 22:06.46 | Semlar | it's basically a congealed bar of grease |
| 22:06.57 | Semlar | although that might be harder to market |
| 22:07.05 | mckenziemc | what is soap |
| 22:07.20 | Neffi | well, it gets me clean and it doesn't destroy my skin, so it's ok |
| 22:07.25 | Semlar | soap is the byproduct of lye and oil/fat |
| 22:07.53 | Semlar | it doesn't get you clean neffi |
| 22:08.03 | Neffi | yes it does |
| 22:08.23 | Mr_Rabies | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI2Hw1_xy_g |
| 22:08.24 | Mr_Rabies | oops |
| 22:08.26 | Mr_Rabies | wrong channel |
| 22:08.28 | Mr_Rabies | might want to uh |
| 22:08.42 | Mr_Rabies | cut down the volume if you watch that jfyi |
| 22:09.13 | Semlar | here neffi http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/no-but-seriously-dove-soap-is-bad-1696932973 |
| 22:09.15 | mckenziemc | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grease_%28lubricant%29 |
| 22:09.24 | Neffi | Semlar: somebody told me that it's primarily the surfactants which clean the skin because of their affect on the properties of the water, allowing it to easily rinse dirt and bacteria off the skin, rather than killing the bacteria. |
| 22:09.42 | Semlar | yeah but dove isn't soap |
| 22:10.18 | Neffi | But it cleans my skin and doesn't make me break out |
| 22:11.00 | Semlar | it doesn't dry your skin out because it's essentially a bar of lotion |
| 22:11.41 | mckenziemc | drying out skin is essentially using too much soap |
| 22:11.42 | mckenziemc | so.... |
| 22:11.57 | Neffi | Semlar: "Dove is primarily made from synthetic surfactants" |
| 22:13.16 | Semlar | you'll notice they don't mention the word soap anywhere on their packaging |
| 22:13.26 | Neffi | I'm not saying it's soap |
| 22:17.27 | mckenziemc | i suspect the terminology is really acting is a red herring, but i don't know enough about the subject |
| 22:18.21 | mckenziemc | is -> as |
| 22:18.28 | Neffi | Nor do I, but from what I gather from some casual reading, the primary mechanism of action behind soap is that it's a surfactant, which Dove also is. So while it may not be soap in that it's not the by-product of fat and lye, it will still perform the same job w.r.t. cleaning. |
| 22:19.01 | Neffi | I'll ask somebody later on who I suspect can clear this up (research [bio]chemist I know), but now I have to get ready for dinner with the family |
| 22:22.48 | Semlar | looks like they use sodium lauroyl isethionate |
| 22:29.26 | Semlar | some kind of synthetic detergent |
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| 23:47.07 | mckenziemc | applies lye to Semlar2. |
| 23:47.18 | Semlar2 | rude |
| 23:47.49 | mckenziemc | but so much cleaner |
| 23:54.57 | Semlar2 | i'm dead now |
| 23:55.24 | Semlar2 | i hope you're happy |
| 23:56.33 | mckenziemc | i am! |
| 23:57.43 | Semlar2 | you're gettin coal |
| 23:58.58 | mckenziemc | good, i need to smelt more netherrack |
