IRC log for #wowuidev on 20151126

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00:07.14Torhalrewrites all of Semlar's unreleased AddOns to use Poncho.
00:12.03Semlar2D:
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01:49.38GetheSo I seem to be missing something. What is bad about Poncho?
02:20.00kd3c'mon ontrac, any time you'd like to get here
02:22.44mckenziemcdelivers kd3 to OnTrac's warehouse
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02:29.33Fiskerhey kd3
02:29.38kd3'lo
02:30.02kd3also, brr. it's going to get down to 38F (~3C) tonight. that seems cold for the bay area
02:30.15kd3my poor built-in electric room heaters are struggling to keep up
02:31.01Amarandeok newegg, seriously? you're going to ship a SODIMM in a completely separate package?
02:31.07AmarandeONE FREAKING SODIMM
02:31.20Amarande*shakes head*
02:35.01FiskerI'd heat you up kd3
02:38.41jleclancheI found various scans of the old wowarmory, from 2007 and 2009. LOTS of xml data. 18mb tarball, 1.5GB uncompressed
02:38.43jleclanchehttps://leclan.ch/public/armory-dump-warning-2gb-uncompressed.tar.xz
02:40.20mckenziemcbut it says 2GB :(
02:46.03FiskerI wish my server had wake on LAN kd3
02:46.58mckenziemctests Wake on Freight Truck on Fisker.
02:47.06KemayoThem's some good compressions.
02:47.16mckenziemc"on" referring to event, not location
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04:37.27kd3whee, emergency emails to the building super that the elevator motor sounds like it's about to give out
04:37.32kd3always fun
04:41.15mckenziemco.o
04:44.09mckenziemcdammit kd3
04:44.19kd3hm?
04:44.29mckenziemci looked up the wiki page to see on which end the machine rooms normally are
04:44.33mckenziemcnow i want to play SimTower :(
04:44.40kd3lol
04:44.45kd3I played entirely too much of that
04:46.23mckenziemc"Elevator traffic simulation software can be used to model complex  traffic patterns and elevator arrangements that cannot necessarily be  analysed by RTT calculations.[22]" :D
04:49.07Amarandehah ... good thing I got a T420 thinkpad and not, say, an X220 ... http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?hide_menu_area=true&GroupID=460&Code=0A36282 ROFL
04:52.35mckenziemcO.o
04:53.49mckenziemc"Stay unplugged longer with ThinkPad Battery 29 [...]" well i guess you would be out of power for a while if you paid that
04:54.41mckenziemchttp://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?hide_menu_area=true&GroupID=460&Code=0A36282 for those who have Amarande on ignore :D
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04:58.20pompyhttp://www.wsj.com/articles/hilton-hotel-chain-reports-data-breach-1448404248 at least not during blizzcon, but yeah.
04:58.54pompyhttp://www.engadget.com/2015/11/24/hilton-confirms-hotel-hack/
04:59.56Amarandesounds like hilton is a hella lot less savvy than hyatt, wonder if they got paris's credit card LOL
05:01.00Amarandehyatt on the other hand seem to be pretty good with their IT ... once I alerted them as to a security hazard on their website (it was saving your credit card number in form history when you made a reservation, which webforms aren't supposed to do) and I'm pretty sure it actually got fixed
05:01.23mckenziemcteaches Amarande about "helluva".
05:01.37mckenziemcand technically misplaces the period.
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06:11.10jleclancheanyone here wants to do something with 3 scans of the wowarmory 1.x in 2007 and 2009? 18mb compressed, 1.6gb uncompressed. all xml.
06:23.19fewynmckenziemc: https://twitter.com/fewyn/status/669762741213798400
06:27.26mckenziemcfewyn: how long did it take?
06:28.01fewynlonger than i planned because i kept finding missing screws from my kit so i had to buy them out
06:28.04fewynthen rl happened
06:28.06mckenziemcalso did you find info from folgertech about configuring the stepper driver currents?
06:28.07fewynso like 2 weeks
06:28.14mckenziemcheh
06:28.19fewyni've been talking to people in #folgertech
06:28.27fewyni've done the "build" now
06:28.33fewyngoing to work on configuring tomorrow
06:28.37fewynwhile turkey cooks
06:28.52mckenziemcbut you know to make sure the currents are configured :)
06:29.30mckenziemcdo you have a multimeter?
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06:34.06fewynyeah mckenziemc
06:34.16fewyni've only just learned how to use it =p
06:34.28fewynhad to find the ground on the power cable
06:35.13mckenziemcin the guide for mine they had the wrong color descriptions and didn't say to check >.>
06:35.53mckenziemci don't think it would've mattered but i happened to want to check :)
06:36.26fewynhttp://pastebin.com/dh4yZHhE is a guide to the guide
06:36.33fewynwith corrections/tips
06:36.35mckenziemc(live and neutral reversed, potentially bad in other cases but maybe not for this PS)
06:38.30mckenziemci still don't see the stepper driver configuration >.>
06:38.54mckenziemcall they give you is the manufacturer sheet in the google drive folder, but that doesn't tell you which voltages to set
06:39.17mckenziemcit should be the same as the acrylic frame version though, just a sec
06:41.24mckenziemccute, drive's default pdf viewer doesn't show page numbers
06:41.46mckenziemcvoltages are in Step 52 in the build manual in https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9b1NbuMK524M1JFM0IyNm4xOHc&usp=drive_web
06:43.04mckenziemcthey say to measure the voltage between the trimming potentiometer, and the ground pin for the same stepper driver board, but DON'T do that, that's how i shorted my arduino
06:43.31mckenziemcjust use the screw for the ground wire that comes into the RAMPS from the power supply
06:43.47fewynthe aluminium frame guide is different
06:44.13fewynit's actually a crappier version of this guide somehow
06:44.32fewynless pictures and more mistakes
06:44.37mckenziemci know, but when i looked though it out of curiosity, i didn't see this part, and the electronics should be the same
06:44.45mckenziemcknow = it being different
06:46.01fewynhttps://drive.google.com/a/fewyn.net/folderview?id=0B9b1NbuMK524fldIWWVCa0xfSXAtZmttcDhrbjBMeFNWcENBdVUzWnhtWDZ2YWdHVXpoUXM&usp=drive_web
06:46.05fewyndoesn't say anything about that
06:47.05mckenziemci'm not sure if trying to explain how to use an ohmmeter for an initial adjustment would be too confusing to be worth the benefit
06:47.26mckenziemcactually
06:49.18Amarandehrm speaking of cooking, I should probably get up earlyish tomorrow
06:49.31Amarandeit wouldn't do for me to be trying to cook the apple pie when it's time for the turkey to be in the oven
06:49.43fewyni'm using a roaster
06:49.45fewyninstead of the oven
06:49.51fewynso i can do other things in the oven
06:57.29Mr_Rabieswee do the same
06:57.46mckenziemcfewyn: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6lDgw76EvJ8bnRRQXB5cFlhRHM/view?usp=sharing
06:57.53Mr_Rabiescan even take the roaster outside on a heat resistant table, if it's not too cold
07:00.09mckenziemcthe position of the top one should work for all but the Y driver
07:00.53mckenziemcthough my X motor either gets hot or won't work properly if the current is lowered, so i have an extra fan cooling it
07:02.08fewynwe'll see about it tomorrow i should probably head to bed
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12:20.38Maldivia*smirk* https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUsAsU3UYAAtNar.jpg
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12:59.50Arrow|workwork work work
13:29.04MiRaiis there a way to flip a texture without actually opening it up in an editor and changing it?
13:29.21MiRailike... flip horizontally or vertically (or both)
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13:31.30hasteMiRai: with :SetTexCoord() you can
13:32.29hastehttp://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/SetTexCoord use the version with four arguments and just flip it there
13:32.31SemlarSetTexCoord(1,0,0,1) would mirror it
13:32.55Semlarhorizontally
13:33.22MiRaifantastic... let me try this out real quick before I need to go AFK
13:34.23MiRaioutstanding
13:34.29MiRaithanks Semlar/haste ;)
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13:59.36Simca__spent 12 hours working, want to sleep, can't. got school project to finish. it'll take me about 2 hours, and then I can't sleep either since I have to leave for family thanksgiving shit (literally can't get out of this either, I tried!).
13:59.39Simca__holidays are the worst
13:59.43Simca__literally
14:00.11Semlaryour tail is growing simca
14:00.41Simca__my interest in draenei is invading IRC I guess
14:00.43MaldiviaSemlar: no, he's just carrying around a pillow with him, for when he finally crashes
14:00.48Gnarfozsoon we'll have to deal with imca________________
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14:53.04fewynroast dat turkey
15:14.08Rythalbaste it with butter
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16:26.54p3limmm thanksgiving, had hotdogs
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16:30.58Amarandeyay thanksgiving, turkey, decent stuffing, and another year where I get to get pissed about the existence of a holiday in the way
16:31.23Amarandebecause *apparently* newegg was able to get tracking numbers for both my SODIMM and my laptop yesterday (and why is the SODIMM in a separate box *anyway*)
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16:31.55Amarandebut *apparently* they for some lame arse reason were only able to actually get the SODIMM on its merry way to arrive Friday, UPS tracking now says the laptop didn't get out yesterday and now has to wait till Monday to arrive :P
16:31.59Amarandestupid holidays, stupid holiday weekends
16:32.38mckenziemcqq
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16:35.18Amarandewe should probably do away with observed holidays anyway, come to think of it heh
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16:35.45AmarandeI mean, think about it ... everyone has their own beliefs and religions that have their own holidays. If we give *everyone* their holidays to be fair, then pretty much every single day's going to be a holiday and nothing will ever get done :)
16:35.46mckenziemcno
16:35.52mckenziemclet the masses bang their heads against the wall year after year
16:35.56AmarandeOr we can just have nobody's special days be special LOL
16:37.34Amarandethough yay thanksgiving, turkey, decent stuffing, and apple pie
16:43.47Amarandeyeah, we probably need holidays, they give us some joy and hope in dark times
16:43.48fewynmmmm deviled eggs
16:44.11Amarandewhat's really an anachronism is weekends ... in the digital age, a day is simply a day, and hell at a large percentage of jobs they're work days anyway
16:44.23Amarandeso might as well just stop treating days that start with S as somehow Specialday :)
16:52.56Amarandewow, and just as I'm calling a weekend an anachronism I google others' opinions and it seems people instead want weekends to be THREE days long
16:53.18Amarande*shakes head* people must not order stuff online very much, or they're older generations who are still used to "please allow four to six weeks for delivery" LOL
16:53.50mckenziemcI move to rename Sunday to Amarandeday.
16:55.38mckenziemcand the motion dies :(
16:55.58Amarandeheh
16:56.15Amarandemaybe when we get self driving trucks we can get weekend delivery, because self driving trucks don't join the Teamsters
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16:59.59fewynhttps://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
17:00.00fewynwhoa
17:01.41FiskerHey Shirik
17:03.39mckenziemcaccidentally heys Fisker.
17:05.24p3limstill want an alternative to the raspi with sata and gigabit network
17:05.53p3limprobably have to go for a NUC or ITX :/
17:11.39fewynyou mean http://www.bananapi.org/p/product.html ?
17:11.51fewynit doesn't have sata
17:11.55fewynbut it does have gigabit
17:12.07fewynwait
17:12.09fewynit does
17:15.07mckenziemco.o
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17:52.07Gethestarted http://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_7.0.1/API_changes
17:54.07Amarandeyay goodbye multistrike
17:54.16Amarandethat must have been a "fun" stat for raid leaders :)
17:54.34Amarandetries to imagine what ICC would have been like with multistrike
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17:54.45Amarandewe'd probably have pushed phases accidentally about ten times as often as we did :)
17:57.50Amarandeand warlocks and DKs would have been even more problematic
18:00.19GetheAmarande: i'm not sure what you think multistrike is, but it doesn't have any affect on raids as a whole. basicly crit 1.5
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18:01.54mckenziemcshrugs at Gethe. Who knows?
18:16.50AmarandeGethe: I'm thinking it must make it difficult to ensure you stop DPS at exactly a certain point
18:17.05Amarande(hence why warlocks and DKs can be troublesome, it's hard to "stop DPS!" if there's dots up)
18:17.37Amarandemind you, once leftover dots saved our bacon, when Putricide tear gassed us while a blob was still active :)
18:17.59Ressysighs
18:18.07RessyWowace is out of Canadian Amazon gift cards.
18:18.54Semlarwhat does canadian amazon sell
18:19.07Semlarbagged milk and zambonis?
18:22.48Amarandebaps Semlar with a hockey stick
18:22.55RessyLots of lightning deals and stuffs today.
18:22.58RessyI'm buying for Christmas.
18:23.24RessyI just bought this: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B000RQFO7Q?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
18:23.31Ressy$45 CAD
18:23.50RessyIts cute & in price range
18:24.40ConstieThat is cute.
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18:35.20jleclancheI have a file so old
18:35.25jleclanchethat googling it brings me to blue.cardplace
18:35.26jleclanchehttp://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/2804641.htm
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21:04.19mckenziemc#132 again
21:04.27mckenziemcwhat did blizzard break in the patch :<
21:06.42mckenziemcwell, i did overlook the possibility that it could be addon-triggered
21:07.54karl_w_wtriggers mckenziemc
21:08.17mckenziemc's handler nils karl_w_w.
21:14.55Ressymckenziemc: Post the 132 to pastebin or something & link it for me?
21:21.22mckenziemcmaybe later
21:21.47mckenziemclooks like i have 7 crashes (some with dumps) since 11/18 in the Errors folder
21:22.35Semlarstop breaking things
21:23.14mckenziemcsends a freight truck through Semlar's back door.
21:24.47Ressymckenziemc: Any time you feel like posting it, I'll tell you whats causing the crashes. :)
21:25.02Semlarit's me, i caused them
21:25.21Ressylol
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21:59.25fewynugggh
21:59.27fewynmckenziemc: http://i.imgur.com/XZTMtVO.jpg
21:59.34fewynmy endstop mount cracked
21:59.40fewynand i have no extras
22:05.48mckenziemc:(
22:06.12mckenziemclocal college might do prints for you
22:06.23fewyni wonder if i could use superglue to fix it
22:06.28fewynuntil i can print a new one?
22:06.30mckenziemcprobably
22:06.55mckenziemcactually i had issues with the provided stl files though, didn't print with usable dimensions
22:07.57fewynhttps://drive.google.com/a/fewyn.net/folderview?id=0B9b1NbuMK524fmxBd1FoZHdyR0NCLVQtVnJYUjJUcDMwcjRGb1c2aEVSbzBrYlY4Ul9XUWM&usp=drive_web&tid=0B9b1NbuMK524fldIWWVCa0xfSXAtZmttcDhrbjBMeFNWcENBdVUzWnhtWDZ2YWdHVXpoUXM
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23:33.37fewynmy turkey tastes amazing
23:34.29Maldivia.. I hope that's not a euphemism
23:34.43Semlar2i hope it is
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23:35.50fewynit's an actual turkey
23:35.53fewyni roasted it today
23:36.00fewynit brined for about 18 hours
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