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| 00:25.36 | fewyn | so red baron frozen pizzas are way better than little caesers.... and they are cheaper |
| 00:26.27 | Simca_ | i agree |
| 00:27.47 | raylu | https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/11/18/9 |
| 00:28.04 | fewyn | i just finished off one of the supreme pizza |
| 00:28.07 | fewyn | was real good |
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| 00:53.08 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 00:53.51 | mckenziemc | i'm guessing using a wow token couldn't count as "pay[ing] for a month of subscription time" on an RaF account |
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| 00:54.18 | fewyn | it doesn't? |
| 00:54.20 | fewyn | you sure? |
| 00:56.49 | mckenziemc | basically $20 for a RaF mount though, if you don't use gold for your main subscription |
| 00:57.00 | mckenziemc | (with the current WoW sale) |
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| 01:17.28 | Gethe | was testing RealUI |
| 01:34.25 | foxlit | someone should slap jaliborc around with some trout. |
| 01:37.02 | nebula | he's only break things faster |
| 01:37.05 | nebula | he'd* |
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| 01:38.20 | Torhal | foxlit: What did he do now? |
| 01:45.13 | foxlit | he either knows what he did, in which case he should fix it; or he doesn't, in which case the exercise ought to be repeated until he finds out. |
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| 02:07.36 | Torhal | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/QFVlmD3.gifv |
| 02:07.42 | foxlit | but basically this: https://www.townlong-yak.com/pb/poncho |
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| 02:08.57 | Torhal | ... |
| 02:11.26 | Cairenn | rofl! |
| 02:12.34 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
| 02:12.44 | Torhal | hey Fisker |
| 02:12.49 | Torhal | Pygmies? |
| 02:13.09 | Fisker | nope |
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| 02:13.21 | Cairenn | surprises him by doing it first and hugs Fisker |
| 02:13.29 | kd3 | ! |
| 02:13.43 | Amarande | Joy, apparently KDE is super slow to login on Debian testing if you don't have bluetooth on your machine :( |
| 02:14.20 | Amarande | I knew I should have sprung for that Intel 7260 instead of the slightly cheaper (and ath9k so no need for firmware blobs) TP-Link card |
| 02:14.27 | foxlit | (if you're thiking "what does that code even do?" I've got excellent news: it's not written by me and it even has a comment) |
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| 02:15.57 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 02:16.05 | kd3 | one whole comment, whooo! |
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| 02:41.19 | fewyn | if you're not watching Limitless you really should be... it's great |
| 02:41.42 | mckenziemc1 | the number of things more productive are limitless, fewyn |
| 02:41.57 | mckenziemc1 | not that i'm doing any of them |
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| 04:06.07 | pompy | Shirik: get that 7.6 alert? |
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| 04:11.17 | Cairenn | 7.6? Where? |
| 04:11.43 | kd3 | brazil |
| 04:11.52 | Cairenn | Not good |
| 04:11.53 | kd3 | and peru |
| 04:12.14 | kd3 | they're both 600km deep, so probably the same quake |
| 04:13.28 | kd3 | or not, apparently. huh |
| 04:16.57 | Iriel | 5 minutes apart and about 5km apart |
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| 04:18.10 | pompy | no tsunami threat |
| 04:18.30 | pompy | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us100040x6 |
| 04:18.41 | Iriel | 50km even |
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| 04:30.16 | mckenziemc | sample-and-holds Fisker and hugs Cairenn. |
| 04:30.24 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
| 04:31.33 | mckenziemc | Fisker must be in sleep mode :( |
| 04:31.46 | mckenziemc | sends an interrupt. |
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| 05:21.00 | Shirik | pompy: always! |
| 05:21.32 | Shirik | amusingly, I was in an emergency communications meeting at the time |
| 05:43.02 | Mr_Rabies | mannnn |
| 05:43.21 | Mr_Rabies | i love pawn but i wish i could specify that i don't want to use the overpriced gems |
| 05:43.32 | Mr_Rabies | right now it way overvalues sockets and there's no way to change that, as far as i can tell |
| 05:45.01 | Amarande | well, I'm pretty sure socket actually is generally BiS when it comes to the random item attribute rolls |
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| 05:50.39 | Mr_Rabies | my curse icon hasn't changed in years but i never use it to comment, i just did and things got weird http://i.imgur.com/jPIiwtC.png |
| 05:50.48 | Mr_Rabies | depends, really |
| 05:55.52 | Mr_Rabies | like, it can suggest an item with a lower ilvl, versatility and haste (worst secondaries for me), no crit, but a socket - over an item with crit(my best secondary), multistrike, a higher level, and no socket |
| 05:56.14 | Mr_Rabies | because i can add 75 crit, but i'm not adding 75, i'm adding 50 because the epic gems are nuts |
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| 06:11.07 | mckenziemc | i suspect you can change it but i haven't used pawn in a while |
| 06:14.07 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: hopefully they at least have a sane system for handing out epic gems this xpac? |
| 06:14.26 | Amarande | BC and Wrath did it about right, Cata dropped the ball badly |
| 06:14.36 | Mr_Rabies | haha, no |
| 06:14.38 | Amarande | to the point that Mists didn't even have epic gems at all :p |
| 06:14.51 | Mr_Rabies | they're about 6000g for +75 to a secondary stat |
| 06:15.10 | Mr_Rabies | versus +50 for like, practically nothing |
| 06:16.00 | Mr_Rabies | they take several days to make, and the recipes are a pain in the ass to get, in many cases |
| 06:19.53 | Mr_Rabies | some require brawler's guild experience, lol |
| 06:31.21 | Mr_Rabies | whoa whoa whoa |
| 06:31.32 | Mr_Rabies | wait, you need a level 3 garrison to unlock the towns in tanaan? :| |
| 06:33.39 | Amarande | what, you thought you'd get out of playing the facebook game style part of the game on every character? |
| 06:33.47 | Amarande | dream on, you do know who ActiBlizzard's latest acquisition is right? :) |
| 06:35.15 | Mr_Rabies | eh that's just a bad investment, it's gonna go belly up in a year |
| 06:35.31 | Mr_Rabies | still, i don't mind it it's just 5k gold for something that doesn't really offer much except a daily hub |
| 06:36.45 | Mr_Rabies | i'll just do without |
| 06:37.29 | Mr_Rabies | the shipyard and stuff is mostly a waste now, i doubt i'd make my money back on the garrison by the time legion comes out, since the gold missions are now limited per-account instead of per character |
| 06:38.00 | Mr_Rabies | and i barely play that character |
| 07:01.58 | Mr_Rabies | like, not actiblizz going bellyup, but "King" |
| 07:02.14 | Mr_Rabies | their types of "games" are starting to tank pretty hard as of late |
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| 07:12.08 | Amarande | yeah, when your business model is basically selling cheat codes for a single player game at exorbitant prices ... |
| 07:12.26 | Amarande | like, at least have some honour like those solitaire dudes did back in the day |
| 07:12.48 | Amarande | where they'd sell you the pack for X amount of money and then pay you based on how many cards you managed to get home :) |
| 07:15.05 | Amarande | right now meanwhile, I'm trying to figure out what part of my hardware is most responsible for making my PC such a space heater |
| 07:15.30 | Amarande | (of course, if you google PCs and heat, it's hard to find much, because it's all focused on the comfort of your CPU and GPU instead of you LOL) |
| 07:18.16 | Amarande | presumably this has something to do with owning an AMD CPU, heh |
| 07:29.38 | Mr_Rabies | it's almost always GPU but...yeah, amd cpu |
| 07:29.39 | Mr_Rabies | maybe not |
| 07:30.12 | Mr_Rabies | they're not popular, for good reasons and bad |
| 07:30.19 | Mr_Rabies | as much as i'd like intel to have competition, AMD isn't |
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| 09:50.59 | Simca_ | TIL every single online reference for :SetTexture is wrong |
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| 09:51.16 | Simca_ | and that there is an optional third argument to vertically tile |
| 09:51.45 | Simca_ | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/SetTexture |
| 09:51.45 | Simca_ | http://wow.gamepedia.com/API_Texture_SetTexture |
| 09:51.45 | Simca_ | http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/API_Texture_SetTexture |
| 09:52.27 | Simca_ | texture:SetTexture("filename"[, horizTile[, vertTile]]) is not listed on any of them |
| 09:52.33 | Simca_ | yet it works ingame |
| 09:58.09 | foxlit | well, duh. |
| 09:59.33 | Simca_ | is that 'duh because all WoW documentation is woefully incomplete' |
| 09:59.36 | Simca_ | ? |
| 10:00.00 | foxlit | duh because nobody actually wants to write decent documentation. |
| 10:02.11 | Simca_ | I had to figure this out because in Legion Blizzard broke SetTextCoords for all values > 1 |
| 10:02.20 | Simca_ | and SetHorizTile and SetVertTile have been broken for years |
| 10:02.29 | Simca_ | so there was literally no other method left to tile a texture |
| 10:02.38 | Simca_ | (unless you count making a backdrop) |
| 10:02.58 | Simca_ | TexCoords* |
| 10:11.12 | Semlar | documents Simca_ |
| 10:11.37 | Semlar | just kidding, i'm not documenting anything |
| 10:22.08 | foxlit | oh hey Semlar, you found https://www.townlong-yak.com/pb/poncho |
| 10:22.09 | foxlit | well done. |
| 10:22.23 | Semlar | :( |
| 10:22.56 | Semlar | this looks like something i would do and think "yeah, this is fine" |
| 10:23.23 | Semlar | ship it |
| 10:26.21 | foxlit | but the correct answer here is "I'm going to write an exploit that abuses that" |
| 10:27.27 | Semlar | but exploits are bad foxlit |
| 10:35.09 | Constie | What if the thing that is really bad... is you? |
| 10:35.46 | Semlar | fortunately that's impossible |
| 11:03.00 | Simca_ | and they broke :SetTexture(R, G, B, A) too... |
| 11:03.29 | Simca_ | I guess I can set some texture that is blank and use SetVertexColor |
| 11:04.14 | Simca_ | don't suppose anyone knows any solid color blizz assets off the top of their head? |
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| 11:14.20 | Simca_ | interesting |
| 11:14.45 | Simca_ | so :SetTexture(1, 1, 1); :SetVertexColor(R, G, B); works fine |
| 11:15.01 | Simca_ | :SetTexture(R, G, B) produces nothing |
| 11:15.09 | Simca_ | that makes no sense to me |
| 11:15.52 | Semlar | but SetTexture(1,1,1) is setting its RGB |
| 11:16.06 | Simca_ | I know! |
| 11:16.39 | Simca_ | SetTexture(0.3, 0.3, 0.3) does nothing. SetTexture(1,1,1) SetVertexColor(0.3, 0.3, 0.3) works fine! |
| 11:16.42 | Simca_ | it makes no sense |
| 11:16.45 | Semlar | there's a white8x8 texture you can use if you have to |
| 11:17.11 | Simca_ | also /run and /script are disabled |
| 11:17.22 | Simca_ | while addons are enabled and allowed |
| 11:17.23 | Simca_ | >.> |
| 11:17.31 | Simca_ | blizz y u so silly |
| 11:17.32 | Semlar | it's like interface/buttons/white8x8 i think |
| 11:19.58 | Mr_Rabies | well then |
| 11:20.05 | Mr_Rabies | logging in dismounts you now |
| 11:20.22 | Mr_Rabies | i learned this because i logged out about 200 feet in the ari |
| 11:20.28 | Mr_Rabies | air* |
| 11:20.55 | Semlar | i used to have my F keys bound to my forms |
| 11:21.09 | Semlar | and i had flight form on F4 |
| 11:21.30 | Semlar | so every time i closed the game with alt F4 it would shift me out first |
| 11:21.41 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 11:21.49 | Mr_Rabies | mine are bound to numpad because i'm insane |
| 11:21.57 | Mr_Rabies | but it's been that way for 10 years+ now |
| 11:22.14 | Semlar | my num pad is bound to the raid marker |
| 11:22.15 | Semlar | s |
| 11:22.29 | Mr_Rabies | not a bad idea |
| 11:22.42 | Mr_Rabies | i usually do a real quick /tm 8 if i have to |
| 11:22.58 | Mr_Rabies | since that's the only one i generally set |
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| 11:29.21 | foxlit | Simca_: you're looking for :SetColorTexture. |
| 11:30.17 | Simca_ | there is not a single result on the entire internet for that |
| 11:30.20 | Simca_ | impressive |
| 11:30.28 | foxlit | on the bright side, that cleans up some insanity with SetFileData. |
| 11:32.57 | Semlar | that still doesn't explain why SetTexture(1,1,1) works |
| 11:34.58 | foxlit | that explanation can wait until I have an actual beta client. |
| 11:35.13 | Semlar | yeah, simca should invite us |
| 11:35.56 | Semlar | or elaborate whether SetTexture(1,1,1) really produces a white texture or if it's just ignoring that and applying SetVertexColor regardless |
| 11:51.58 | Simca_ | speaking of having clients |
| 11:52.06 | Simca_ | i diffed some things |
| 11:52.29 | Simca_ | https://www.diffchecker.com/wlvyhepc WoW API 6.2.3 vs 7.0.1 |
| 11:53.24 | Simca_ | Too lazy/didn't care enough to properly diff events, so only removed ones will show up there |
| 11:57.14 | Semlar | ..........there's a function called GetNameplateFrames? |
| 11:57.25 | Semlar | how long has that been there |
| 12:03.01 | Simca_ | 7.0.1? |
| 12:03.11 | Semlar | no, it's in the game right now |
| 12:03.14 | Simca_ | oh |
| 12:03.18 | Simca_ | huh |
| 12:03.22 | Semlar | it returns a table of nameplate frames |
| 12:04.09 | Semlar | they probably added it when they labeled all of the nameplate sections |
| 12:10.40 | Semlar | whoops, i mean it returns a list of nameplate frames |
| 12:11.21 | Semlar | apparently only the visible ones |
| 12:23.18 | Simca_ | i wonder what these 'mixins' are |
| 12:23.55 | Semlar | mixins add the methods to the table |
| 12:25.01 | Simca_ | <Frame name="ArtifactsClassNameTemplateBase" hidden="true" mixin="ArtifactClassNameTemplateMixin" virtual="true"> |
| 12:25.45 | Semlar | like it takes the functions from ArtifactClassNameTemplateMixin and adds them to that frame |
| 12:26.04 | Semlar | so you can call them from the frame |
| 12:27.00 | Semlar | it would be like doing "for k,v in pairs(ArtifactClassNameTemplateMixin) do frame[k] = v end" i think |
| 12:28.09 | foxlit | while everyone wishes it would do for k in pairs(mixin) do frame[k] = function(...) return mixin[k](...) end end |
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| 12:33.29 | Semlar | i'm just basing that on how it looks like they're being used |
| 12:36.39 | Semlar | Simca_: guill mentioned something about changing how fonts were rendered, you should check if you can make giant font strings now |
| 12:37.37 | Simca_ | give me a command to try and i can try it |
| 12:40.35 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/Xgy39zc9 |
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| 12:48.40 | p3lim | Gethe: Oh, that's cool! Too bad I don't have an invite :/ |
| 12:55.44 | Gnarfoz | still waiting for them to fix their fuckup :| |
| 12:57.27 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/uyYFHfs.png |
| 13:00.22 | Simca_ | Semlar: http://i.imgur.com/2ewxmAe.jpg |
| 13:00.37 | p3lim | What fuckup? |
| 13:00.37 | Semlar | can you try 1000 instead of 100 |
| 13:00.40 | Mr_Rabies | "well, they didn't fix the bugs, but i can play as an anime girl with huge assets now i guess that works too" |
| 13:01.14 | Mr_Rabies | yo Simca_ look out not to alarm you but there's some very large badgers behind that rock |
| 13:01.17 | Semlar | that certainly looks larger than the current limit which is around 30 |
| 13:01.35 | p3lim | 36 afaik |
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| 13:05.57 | znf | So, question |
| 13:05.58 | znf | http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASTEC-XYRATEX-HS-PSU-850-AC-INT-DS850-3-002-005-95882-02-95882-01-850W-SWAP-PS-/271380544003 |
| 13:06.07 | znf | does anyone know what I could replace this type of PSU with? |
| 13:06.15 | znf | I can't seem to be able to find a new one in the country |
| 13:06.21 | znf | and I've no idea what to look for |
| 13:07.11 | znf | Gnarfoz, ^ |
| 13:09.27 | Mr_Rabies | hmm |
| 13:09.34 | Mr_Rabies | just gotta find the form factor, assuming there is one |
| 13:09.53 | znf | I see that if I google for DS850-3 I get similar looking PSUs |
| 13:10.02 | p3lim | hotswappable server unit, not the easiest to find unless you know where to look |
| 13:11.13 | p3lim | http://www.ebay.com/sch/items/?_nkw=hot+swap+power+supply&_sacat=&_ex_kw=&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_sop=12&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_sadis=&LH_CAds=&rmvSB=true |
| 13:12.39 | znf | so, eBay you say? |
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| 13:12.48 | p3lim | probably your best bet |
| 13:14.02 | Mr_Rabies | could be better off finding the product it's for and seeing if you can find documentation |
| 13:14.29 | p3lim | there must surely be a device specification for size/connection |
| 13:15.17 | znf | http://www.ebay.de/itm/ASTEC-Power-Supply-Netzteil-850W-Model-DS850-3-Sun-PN-300-1971-01-/311320295382?hash=item487c22b7d6:g:MhsAAOSwv0tVCT0A |
| 13:15.19 | znf | there we go |
| 13:15.20 | znf | ordering |
| 13:15.29 | Mr_Rabies | might be better off swapping the case if it's a personal item |
| 13:15.34 | Mr_Rabies | or do that, lol |
| 13:15.39 | znf | it's in our data center |
| 13:15.43 | znf | one of our storage servers |
| 13:15.44 | p3lim | this is server stuff |
| 13:16.02 | znf | and our local supplier doesn't have it |
| 13:16.15 | p3lim | you won't have connections to standard ATX stuff consumer computers use with that PSU |
| 13:16.29 | Mr_Rabies | the connector doesn't look quite right on that one, but it's hard to see them in the first ebay listing |
| 13:16.39 | p3lim | It's the same |
| 13:16.49 | Mr_Rabies | oh wait yeah i see it |
| 13:16.58 | Mr_Rabies | angle made it look a bit different |
| 13:17.04 | znf | this is the one that I pulled out |
| 13:17.05 | znf | https://s3.amazonaws.com/prod_object_assets/assets/67841250689822/20151120_171049.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIXM6FRIC5QVSA63Q&Expires=1448456644&Signature=4PHBIKLMKdf%2FT7kFA4Hm%2FuF%2FKIA%3D#_=_ |
| 13:17.14 | znf | not sure if the link works if not logged in asana |
| 13:17.14 | Mr_Rabies | still, people wind up with weird rackmount shit all the time, p3lim :p |
| 13:17.30 | p3lim | I would love to have my pc rackmounted :) |
| 13:17.38 | p3lim | In a different room |
| 13:17.49 | p3lim | znf: link is broken |
| 13:18.01 | znf | https://s3.amazonaws.com/prod_object_assets/assets/67841250689822/20151120_171049.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIXM6FRIC5QVSA63Q&Expires=1448457598&Signature=zBvRMm5Hjcjo%2Fi1JiEmU%2Bn9j320%3D#_=_ |
| 13:18.01 | znf | now? |
| 13:18.07 | p3lim | all good |
| 13:18.10 | Mr_Rabies | there was an intern at the computer shop i worked for that stumbled into a huge xeon server he was tinkering on at the shop all the time |
| 13:19.00 | Mr_Rabies | turned out there was some kind of weird secondary card that kept everything from booting that was displaced from the rest of the server, somehow |
| 13:19.08 | Mr_Rabies | took him over a year to get that damned thing working lol |
| 13:19.20 | znf | yeah, messing with spare servers is fun |
| 13:19.23 | znf | until you get the power bill |
| 13:19.37 | Mr_Rabies | it sounded like a damned freight train until he got that card |
| 13:19.38 | p3lim | unless you live in norway |
| 13:19.41 | Mr_Rabies | because it wasn't POSTing |
| 13:19.46 | p3lim | fixed power bills ftw |
| 13:20.01 | znf | when you get the bill you're like, "so this is why this thing has 2 x 850W PSUs?!" |
| 13:20.08 | Mr_Rabies | once the card was installed, it posted, sounded like a train for about 2 seconds, then went almost silent |
| 13:20.25 | Mr_Rabies | then the 15k rpm hard drives kicked on |
| 13:20.37 | p3lim | 40mm fans are not quiet.. |
| 13:20.48 | Mr_Rabies | and it sounded like some kind of drill press instead |
| 13:21.10 | znf | when I go in the datacenter, I put on those soundproof headphones thingie that they use in construction |
| 13:21.11 | znf | :-/ |
| 13:21.14 | Gnarfoz | p3lim: their "F&F invites didn't work for a lot of people, partly related to existing PTR licences on the accounts" fuckup =D |
| 13:21.32 | p3lim | wow |
| 13:21.47 | Mr_Rabies | i had to pull some server equipment out of a failed car dealership towards the beginning of the recession |
| 13:21.51 | Gnarfoz | hope they get around to it before thanksgiving weekend |
| 13:22.00 | Mr_Rabies | the server room had a magnetic lock on it and hadn't been opened in months |
| 13:22.11 | Mr_Rabies | it was dark as hell (no power to the building) and super eerie |
| 13:22.23 | Gnarfoz | znf: yeah... good luck with that. server PSUs are proprietary in many ways most of the time, so you'll basically have to find the same model :| |
| 13:22.44 | znf | ordering it from ebay, fuck it |
| 13:22.53 | znf | though I'm not even sure it's defective |
| 13:22.56 | znf | just that the fault led is on |
| 13:23.10 | Mr_Rabies | there was paperwork all over the floor at the dealership but all the desks, etc were cleared out |
| 13:23.11 | p3lim | easy enough to test though |
| 13:23.36 | znf | p3lim, without taking the server offline? :D |
| 13:23.39 | Simca_ | Semlar: http://i.imgur.com/63EnrWO.jpg |
| 13:23.41 | Mr_Rabies | the only thing remaining was most of the server equipment we were hired to recover for the asset recovery company, in a magnetically locked room with no power |
| 13:23.50 | znf | because I only know of that way :P |
| 13:23.51 | p3lim | since you have two PSUs you can just poke around on it with a multimeter |
| 13:23.56 | Semlar | thanks simca |
| 13:23.59 | znf | Oh, right. I didn't have one. |
| 13:24.07 | p3lim | find out which pins will start it, hotwire it and measure the points |
| 13:24.08 | znf | And I won't be back at the datacenter until next year, probably |
| 13:24.11 | Simca_ | limit is 1000, Semlar, at least 1200 didn't work |
| 13:24.14 | Mr_Rabies | Simca_ those badgers are getting closer |
| 13:24.18 | Mr_Rabies | watch out |
| 13:24.36 | Semlar | either that or 1000 is also above the limit |
| 13:24.53 | Mr_Rabies | server rooms get funky after a georgia summer with no AC in a sealed room, just fyi |
| 13:24.56 | Semlar | that doesn't look ten times larger than 100 |
| 13:25.22 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: "server room" and the other parts don't really fit together! ^^ |
| 13:25.29 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 13:25.43 | Mr_Rabies | it was basically a large closet with a magnetically locked door on it |
| 13:25.46 | Mr_Rabies | with rackmount equipment |
| 13:26.02 | Mr_Rabies | used for their phone system or something, no clue |
| 13:26.13 | Mr_Rabies | i was just there to pick it up and retrieve it, not ponder its existence |
| 13:26.20 | Simca_ | Semlar: ohhh, maybe |
| 13:26.29 | Gnarfoz | you could have ended its existence! |
| 13:26.29 | Mr_Rabies | we went to once place where the old IT guy was trying to steal the server equipment during teh madness of an auction |
| 13:26.31 | Mr_Rabies | that was a mess |
| 13:26.36 | Simca_ | I never considered the ones I was trying after 1000 were just stacking more of the same on top |
| 13:27.03 | Mr_Rabies | the stuff we were trying to recover DURING the auction, their old IT guy was also trying to recover using the auction's madness as cover |
| 13:27.25 | Mr_Rabies | basically a bunch of dudes moving from room to room itemizing everything and then shouting prices |
| 13:27.26 | Mr_Rabies | it was surreal |
| 13:27.35 | Semlar | regardless that's quite a lot larger than we can currently make text |
| 13:27.49 | Simca_ | you are correct Semlar |
| 13:27.52 | Simca_ | actual limit is 256 |
| 13:28.25 | Simca_ | or 255 |
| 13:28.27 | Simca_ | it's hard to tell |
| 13:28.29 | Simca_ | one of the two |
| 13:28.52 | Mr_Rabies | which looks better, this lens, or this lens |
| 13:29.06 | Simca_ | god i hate that shit, Mr_Rabies |
| 13:29.16 | Mr_Rabies | "uh, they look the same" "THIS LENS *click* OR THIS LENS *click* |
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| 13:39.53 | Gnarfoz | since "the same" is a valid answer, the last one doesn't really happen |
| 13:50.03 | Mr_Rabies | it happened to me :< |
| 13:50.09 | Mr_Rabies | followed by an audible sigh |
| 13:51.07 | Mr_Rabies | i expected the next click to be that of the safety on a pistol being switched off directly behind me |
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| 14:43.55 | karl_w_w | the same isn't always a valid answer |
| 14:46.07 | mckenziemc | invalidates karl_w_w. |
| 14:46.23 | karl_w_w | you can't mckenziemc |
| 14:46.28 | karl_w_w | I've never been valid |
| 14:46.52 | mckenziemc | :a |
| 14:53.41 | karl_w_w | you know what's annoying? if your resolution temporarily changes your desktop gets rearranged, but it doesn't go back when the resolution changes back |
| 14:54.22 | mckenziemc | what was it i said about windows having lots of small annoyances? :D |
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| 14:55.36 | Simca_ | to be fair not much should change your resolution in this day and age except badly configured fullscreen games |
| 14:57.03 | karl_w_w | installing a new driver |
| 14:58.14 | Simca_ | i usually don't have that problem unless i'm doing a full uninstall followed by a full reinstall |
| 14:58.38 | Rythal | windows has a use besides playing full screen games? |
| 14:58.39 | mckenziemc | i don't see how "this day and age" differs in regards to times prior |
| 14:59.12 | Simca_ | mckenziemc: there was a time when there was no windowed mode |
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| 14:59.40 | Simca_ | Rythal: windows has awful handling of fullscreen games and always has. fullscreen windowed is better |
| 15:00.05 | Rythal | I get hit by the desktop rearrange all the time.. but yes it's always games, since my main monitor is 4k, but I game on my secondary monitor which is 720p |
| 15:00.41 | mckenziemc | but you already said "badly configured fullscreen games" |
| 15:00.41 | Simca_ | unless maybe you're playing RTS or something similar where you have to scroll to the edge of the screen to move the map quickly |
| 15:01.15 | mckenziemc | it wasn't that big a deal once you set their resolutions |
| 15:01.49 | Simca_ | then yeah you have to use actual fullscreen, hope the app has support for locking the cursor to it (lol, this is like 1 in 40 games), or use a 3rd party program to lock your cursor to the game (none of these work very well) |
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| 15:06.41 | Gnarfoz | sounds like someone has a broken setup (and by that I don't mean that it includes Windows) |
| 15:07.30 | Gnarfoz | and in actual fullscreen, isn't the cursor locked automatically anyway? that's the ONE reason I use "fullscreen windowed" |
| 15:20.53 | Simca_ | yes |
| 15:21.04 | Simca_ | you must not play strategy games |
| 15:21.35 | Simca_ | some games it is better for no cursor lock, but in strategy games, you want cursor lock for screen scrolling |
| 15:22.01 | Simca_ | like in wow, cursor lock is stupid and a good reason to not play fullscreen non-windowed |
| 15:22.23 | Gnarfoz | I play RTS with free mouse cursor, too |
| 15:23.00 | Gnarfoz | doesn't seem to be a problem ƪ(Ëâ£Ë)Ê |
| 15:24.06 | Simca_ | old strategy games have this problem bad |
| 15:24.18 | Simca_ | ie if you play SC:BW in windowed |
| 15:24.22 | Simca_ | and you don't have cursor lock |
| 15:24.27 | Simca_ | you have the patience of a saint |
| 15:30.41 | Gnarfoz | why do I have so many coworkers that talk to themselves or their computers? |
| 15:33.05 | Ressy | Keeps things straight in the head. |
| 15:34.50 | mckenziemc | it helps them avoid thinking their coworkers talk to themselves/their computers? |
| 15:46.51 | Gnarfoz | mckenziemc: wha? |
| 15:47.21 | Gnarfoz | Ressy: it's mostly random cursing and trying to talk it into doing what they want :D |
| 15:51.20 | Ressy | lol |
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| 15:54.55 | Arrow|work | i found the edge of the world in todays xkcd |
| 15:55.45 | Arrow|work | the western edge |
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| 16:03.33 | Maldivia | so, has someone already created a script to put the entire thing together? |
| 16:06.12 | Arrow|work | yes |
| 16:06.21 | Arrow|work | do you want it? |
| 16:09.09 | Maldivia | ok, found it myself :d |
| 16:12.29 | Arrow|work | for others http://codepen.io/KyleDavidE/full/605dc87b614ff6b2bd716f4c6f640203/ |
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| 16:46.15 | fewyn | new AMD drivers |
| 16:46.18 | fewyn | came out yesterday |
| 16:46.20 | fewyn | http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+10+-+64 |
| 16:46.22 | fewyn | catalyst is gone |
| 16:46.29 | fewyn | welcome our new crimson overlords |
| 16:46.37 | nevcairiel | new names dont change quality =p |
| 16:46.43 | fewyn | it's a whole new app |
| 16:46.47 | fewyn | and settings thing |
| 16:46.49 | fewyn | from what we're told |
| 16:47.05 | fewyn | i'm installing it now |
| 16:47.07 | fewyn | we'll see |
| 16:48.40 | fewyn | http://i.imgur.com/C2xrUhd.png |
| 16:48.46 | fewyn | it looks nice at least? |
| 16:50.45 | karl_w_w | good thing the quality was already high nevcairiel? |
| 16:51.44 | fewyn | i dont really ever use it for anything fancy |
| 16:55.27 | Amarande | now if only red wasn't such a sadly accurate colour for amd :( |
| 16:55.49 | Amarande | also, speaking of AMD |
| 16:55.57 | Amarande | does linux's sensors thing lie? I'm almost convinced it does |
| 16:56.11 | Amarande | this computer seems to be unusually space heaterish under load, as is expected for an overclocked FX-6300 I suppose |
| 16:56.22 | Amarande | but lm-sensors is insisting it only uses 95-96W even full tilt |
| 16:56.24 | Amarande | that can't be right |
| 16:56.54 | Amarande | that'd be a full-tilt stock speed load, not oc (plus a test at techspot indicates that FX-6300 uses more power than an i7-3820, and the latter is supposedly a 130W chip) |
| 17:01.39 | Gnarfoz | quality was high? are YOU high? |
| 17:05.00 | Gnarfoz | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/19974608006 - Working as intended (tm) |
| 17:07.13 | Amarande | hah working as intended ... that's getting to be as bad as "soon" |
| 17:07.34 | Amarande | there's times when one wonders exactly *what* Blizzard actually "intends" anymore |
| 17:08.00 | Amarande | but hey, it's only nine AM pacific time right about now ... some of this stuff is probably being done before coffee |
| 17:08.11 | Amarande | even though nothing of a programmatical or technical nature should EVER be done before caffeination :S |
| 17:18.49 | |Jelly| | Does anyone know of a way to just make their cursor bigger? Have a friend who just got a 4k monitor and he keeps losing his cursor because it's so small. |
| 17:20.16 | Gnarfoz | sounds like his UI scaling setup is wrong |
| 17:21.08 | Trela | |Jelly|: The _Cursor AddOn allows customization. |
| 17:22.27 | |Jelly| | Yeah, I think that's what he's going to have to use just to make his cursor stand out more. |
| 17:23.45 | Trela | I have a 2560x1440 screen and UI scale does not quite fix the cursor exactly. Not enough to be an issue, but it is a bit smaller than standard. |
| 17:24.48 | Arrow|work | hmm catered thanksgiving lunch at work |
| 17:26.05 | Torhal | Seems like a bad idea. |
| 17:26.22 | Torhal | "Here! We'll get you sick of this food before you're supposed to actually eat it!" |
| 17:27.14 | Arrow|work | no whipped cream for the pumpkin pie, fail |
| 17:29.54 | Gnarfoz | "Thanksgiving is weird." -- Europeans |
| 17:36.07 | VIad | got fucked over by a card in heartstone :'( |
| 17:37.19 | VIad | the one killinging all minions except highest attack one |
| 17:37.50 | VIad | apparently only counts the enemy, not my own, didnt notice back then :( |
| 17:37.52 | VIad | got me sad |
| 17:39.21 | Cairenn | http://www.damnlol.com/now-thats-what-i-call-a-hacker-58945.html |
| 17:44.24 | Amarande | heh, I'm sure every now and then you've benefited from accidentally forgetting card verbiage too |
| 17:44.26 | Amarande | well |
| 17:44.32 | Amarande | with real cards anyway, since that never happens on the computer |
| 17:45.05 | Amarande | actually I think this happens quite a lot, mostly because whenever I actually play Magic with real people we've usually been hitting the liquor pretty strongly before and during the game :) |
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| 18:15.31 | Constie | Damn! LOL |
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| 18:46.20 | pompy | http://www.kfvs12.com/story/30601852/7-earthquakes-shake-near-lilbourn-mo-overnight |
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| 19:06.19 | Constie | In this Elwynn quest I'm being asked to kill some outlaws, not because they're threatening the questgiver or anything but because the questgiver could make things out of the linen the outlaws wear. |
| 19:07.05 | Constie | Like just straight up murdering them for material gain. Which, fine, they're outlaws, but still. I'm surprised there's no more justification than that. |
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| 19:11.09 | p3lim | And there we go, IRC bouncer set up :D |
| 19:15.17 | Amarande | Constie: we're talking Warcraft humans here |
| 19:15.22 | Amarande | not exactly a prime example of goodness and light |
| 19:15.35 | Amarande | you know, King Varian Hitler and all that :P |
| 19:17.59 | bshelden | Your unprovoked kill count of sapients at the end of leveling is... kind of incredible |
| 19:18.48 | Shirik | Also animals |
| 19:18.57 | Shirik | Because for some reason only half of them have blood |
| 19:19.17 | bshelden | Indeed, you take down a great many animals. Bonus if you level through STV/Nagrand/SB... |
| 19:19.37 | Constie | Yes, but usually you're told that you need to kill them because of some moral reason. |
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| 19:20.50 | bshelden | That's often said, yes. Though if you dig only a little deeper. You just slaughtered 40 people on the say-so of some random bloke you just met a few minutes ago. |
| 19:21.50 | bshelden | Depending on your class, sometimes with extreme brutality. |
| 19:23.41 | Constie | I'm aware. |
| 19:24.34 | bshelden | I'm more or less resigned to the "hero" being a ruthless psychopath who claims 'morality' by only killing the ones with black hats. |
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| 19:25.05 | bshelden | For an extreme example, take star trek online. It's a game loaded with capital ships. So you're killing thousands every time you pop a ship... |
| 19:27.28 | Semlar | we are the bad guys |
| 19:28.16 | bshelden | Not sure there /are/ good and bad guys in these worlds |
| 19:28.22 | bshelden | Just the powerful and the dead. |
| 19:29.24 | Semlar | and the undead |
| 19:31.58 | Semlar | and pandas, for some reason |
| 19:34.53 | bshelden | loves his panda |
| 19:35.03 | Amarande | heh, most RPGs seem to be like this |
| 19:35.17 | bshelden | I didn't take the story seriously since WC2, so pandas never once bugged me. |
| 19:35.17 | Amarande | hell, Ultima III should probably be played while listening to cop-killer gangsta rap |
| 19:35.37 | Amarande | because literally, the primary character development (apart from going to Ambrosia for stats) consists ideally of killing city guards over and over and over |
| 19:36.24 | Amarande | mainly because the xp system unfortunately turns badges into bullseyes so to speak |
| 19:36.44 | Amarande | 100xp is a level, the most you can ever get from one enemy is 20xp (and only the killing blow character gets xp) |
| 19:37.08 | Amarande | guards always come in groups of 8 and give 15xp each, but most importantly while they hit in melee like trucks, they're melee-only enemies |
| 19:37.25 | Amarande | pretty much all the other 15-20xp enemies have ranged attacks, often ranged poison attacks (and cure poison is an epic tier spell in Ultima III :P) |
| 19:38.10 | Amarande | probably part of the reason Garriott decided Ultima IV should have a moral message :) |
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| 19:39.16 | Amarande | and then Pool of Radiance's city guards were seriously badass |
| 19:39.47 | Amarande | if you decided to be a sturdy rogue in town there, you got pretty much the hardest fights in the whole game |
| 19:47.14 | Constie | Got 420 XP as a quest reward. Nice. |
| 19:51.49 | Semlar | did you blaze it? |
| 19:53.35 | Constie | Me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lEelz0iUJo |
| 20:15.11 | p3lim | jesus christ |
| 20:15.14 | p3lim | black friday |
| 20:15.25 | p3lim | 980Ti for â¬220 |
| 20:28.23 | raylu | p3lim: where? |
| 20:30.25 | p3lim | some norwegian site |
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| 21:05.54 | Stanzilla | probably second hand :D |
| 21:06.42 | Amarande | that sounds like it might have been a halfway reasonable euro price not too long ago |
| 21:06.46 | Amarande | the euro has crashed big time lately though |
| 21:09.20 | Amarande | heh almost considered getting this http://www.ebay.com/itm/172006567148?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT since the euro's gotten so weak so the US price has been dropping a lot |
| 21:09.59 | Amarande | basically that's pretty much the best sound card ever made |
| 21:10.27 | Amarande | (and people who own them apparently know it well too, as you'll find a bazillion of the Layla breakout boxes around ebay, but the PCI cards are like finding the Holy Grail, heh) |
| 21:51.23 | VIad | what is the point of subtitles if all they say is "[speaking Arabic]" damn you netflix |
| 21:51.32 | VIad | or, who ever translated |
| 21:51.49 | Semlar | you're not supposed to know what they're saying |
| 21:52.28 | VIad | feels like I should. scene lasted a long time. :p |
| 21:52.36 | VIad | "[Man speaking Russian]" |
| 21:53.14 | p3lim | You could go crazy with subtitles, like only translating the elvish/orcish bits in Lord of the Rings :p |
| 21:53.15 | VIad | luckily I can a little of it so I can understand some, otherwise it would get too boring since they are speaking proper dialog. |
| 21:53.34 | raylu | take your complain up with the scriptwriter |
| 21:53.37 | raylu | *complaint |
| 21:53.47 | VIad | I think its just the subtitle firm netflix hired :p |
| 21:54.05 | raylu | no, if it's intended for an english audience, not translating the bits you're not supposed to understand seems fine |
| 21:54.27 | VIad | makes no sense when only the audience is there anyway |
| 21:54.35 | raylu | and if you feel bored watching it not understanding what's going on, you'd feel bored without subs too, so it's an issue with the movie, not the subs |
| 21:54.36 | VIad | I'd agree if you had some english characters present. |
| 21:55.14 | VIad | I swear those bits were subtitled when I saw this movie some years ago :p |
| 21:55.19 | VIad | wasnt on netflix though |
| 21:55.29 | raylu | i'd argue those subs aren't actually better |
| 21:56.12 | raylu | it's like if you subbed a magic show with "[distracts audience with hand wave while pocketing coin]" |
| 21:56.31 | VIad | I usually have the CC version enabled :p |
| 21:56.34 | VIad | because I am weird |
| 21:56.52 | VIad | like, I saw a movie with the english descriptive track |
| 21:57.01 | VIad | I had a narrator describing what was happening! :D |
| 21:57.14 | VIad | was kind of cool how he interweaved his dialog in between the movie |
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| 22:43.29 | Mr_Rabies | <VIad> what is the point of subtitles if all they say is "[speaking Arabic]" damn you netflix |
| 22:43.40 | Mr_Rabies | apparently daredevil had/has some issues with the subtitles |
| 22:43.54 | Mr_Rabies | some people see [SPEAKING RUSSIAN] for the russian, some people see translations, apparently? |
| 22:47.20 | Semlar | subtitles aren't translations |
| 22:48.17 | Semlar | if the show is in english, and the original didn't have translations for what they were saying in russian, you wouldn't expect them to translate it in the subtitles |
| 22:48.52 | Mr_Rabies | well, it depends on the intent of the director and whatnot, definitely |
| 22:49.19 | Mr_Rabies | most of the time if it's an english-language produced show, you're just gonna get the closed captions |
| 22:49.38 | Mr_Rabies | so you'll get stuff like [LOUD BANG] in the "subtitles" too |
| 22:49.59 | Mr_Rabies | the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure DVDs only have closed captions for their subtitles :< |
| 22:50.03 | Semlar | well, it would be wrong to translate it, because that's not faithful to the original scene |
| 22:50.12 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 22:50.25 | Mr_Rabies | if the original scene didn't have subtitles there's no reason to ever add them generally |
| 22:50.27 | Semlar | unless you're supposed to be able to understand them |
| 22:50.36 | Mr_Rabies | you can usually tell the difference due to how the scene is presented |
| 22:50.59 | Mr_Rabies | if there are extended scenes in a language the thing isn't normally in, there are probably supposed to be subtitles |
| 22:51.11 | Mr_Rabies | but if it's a few cuts here and there, possibly not |
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