| 00:04.13 | Amarande | mckenziemc: other guys undergeared or just not playing at all? |
| 00:04.13 | mckenziemc | brazilians are very strange... |
| 00:04.42 | Amarande | also what's so bad about brazilians ... well besides the language barrier and the fact that they're likely to have higher ping |
| 00:05.10 | Amarande | but ping doesn't really seem to matter in wow all that much unless you're pvping or trying to get less-rabi heh |
| 00:05.13 | mckenziemc | they tried to kick the one who was from Ragnaros with "Ragnaros" being the reason, then at the same time the healer from Azralon left |
| 00:05.27 | Amarande | wow, now that's just ridic |
| 00:05.46 | mckenziemc | kick failed, we were idle waiting, then i get ported out with the message i was removed from the group |
| 00:05.47 | Amarande | hell, we don't try to kick people for being from Mal'Ganis, even when Mal'Ganis had a horrendous reputation (Fail'Ganis, anyone?) |
| 00:06.16 | Amarande | (at least that's what it seemed ... Mal'Ganis Horde basically consisted of two groups, <Elitist Jerks> members and People That Sucked) |
| 00:07.02 | Rythal | Finally took the plunge and bought an xbox one since they were offering $100 credit trading in my ps3... who wants to bet come friday it's cheaper with black friday deals :/ |
| 00:09.14 | Amarande | Rythal: also, you traded in a PS3 for an Xbox One |
| 00:09.19 | Amarande | dude :( |
| 00:09.53 | Rythal | The controller was dead, it was either spend $50 on a new controller for a system not getting new games... or trade it in against a new console. |
| 00:10.08 | Amarande | that's like trading in an intel quad core for an amd one :) |
| 00:10.18 | Amarande | have you played every single game for ps3 that's to your liking at all? probably not. :) |
| 00:10.49 | Amarande | I don't get the hyper-focus gamers seem to have on always having the latest titles |
| 00:11.18 | Rythal | Naw, I only bought it for 4 games... God of war collection, lil big planet, final fantasy 13, and uncharted... |
| 00:11.26 | Amarande | (of course, this is why whenever I do get a game I like I tend to find the forums are a ghost town and nobody cares about the game anymore, because if it's been out for a week, well, to mainstream gamers apparently you should already be moving on to this week's release LOL) |
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| 00:14.21 | Rythal | I would of traded my 360 in against the one, but it's modded and I don't think they'd of accepted a console with an lcd screen attached to it. |
| 00:17.52 | mckenziemc | depends how much profit they're getting from selling console-sledgehammer combos. |
| 00:52.34 | Semlar | neffi figure out how people are managing this http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/19973797484 |
| 00:54.43 | Semlar | this is the second time i've seen someone complaining about their dropdown menus containing a screenshot of their entire interface |
| 00:58.21 | foxlit | so where was the first? |
| 00:58.27 | Semlar | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/19648724933 |
| 00:59.49 | Semlar | both dropdown menus |
| 01:00.11 | foxlit | $ You have: 18 millilightseconds >> unknown unit 'millilightseconds' << :( |
| 01:02.01 | Semlar | the second post claims it was pitbull, i don't know if this other guy was using pitbull too |
| 01:02.27 | Semlar | you can see their unit frame but i have no idea what pitbull looks like |
| 01:20.39 | Torhal | renders Semlar in a UIDropDownMenu. |
| 01:21.09 | mckenziemc | i thought i put you on hold Torhal. |
| 01:21.25 | Torhal | Naw, mckenziemc - that was a decoy. |
| 01:21.51 | mckenziemc | the decoy was foiled with a decoy |
| 01:23.16 | Neffi | Semlar: client bug or driver bug |
| 01:23.27 | Semlar | o.o |
| 01:23.53 | Semlar | break it neffi |
| 01:23.53 | Neffi | there's at least several thousand users using the same drivers and GPU and similar platforms |
| 01:24.03 | Neffi | and they're all using the same client |
| 01:24.19 | Neffi | sorry Semlar i'm too tired :( |
| 01:24.23 | Neffi | i have to be up at like 5 |
| 01:24.38 | mckenziemc | it is 5 |
| 01:24.48 | mckenziemc | 5:24! |
| 01:24.53 | Neffi | :O |
| 01:25.01 | Semlar | no it's 8 |
| 01:25.02 | Neffi | i'm late! i'm late for a very important date! |
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| 01:25.33 | Semlar | neffi.. are you seeing someone else |
| 01:25.43 | mckenziemc | 5:(3*8) ? |
| 01:25.49 | Neffi | what did Torhal tell you? |
| 01:25.51 | Neffi | HES A LIAR |
| 01:25.59 | Semlar | something about cats |
| 01:26.11 | Semlar | or was it catapults.. |
| 01:26.13 | Neffi | :( he's betrayed my confidence |
| 01:27.14 | mckenziemc | ties a bag of catnip to Semlar and catapults him through Torhal's window. |
| 01:27.36 | Neffi | how wicked |
| 01:27.57 | Torhal | Y'all motherfuckers need Jesus. |
| 01:28.36 | mckenziemc | cat Neffi catnip | catapult Torhal's_other_window |
| 01:28.43 | Neffi | heard "ya'll motherfuckers need cheeses" and in a confused stupor bought several pounds of cheese to share |
| 01:28.54 | Torhal | Typical Neffi. |
| 01:29.04 | Torhal | Always with the "confused stupor" and shit. |
| 01:29.08 | Neffi | :| |
| 01:30.04 | Torhal | I thought Semlar fixed that bug. |
| 01:30.24 | Semlar | fix? |
| 01:30.41 | Semlar | i'm more of a conservationist |
| 01:31.30 | mckenziemc | has a conversation with Semlar's doctor. |
| 01:32.07 | Neffi | watches as Semlar's doctor just disapprovingly shakes his head and facepalms |
| 01:37.08 | Semlar | um this is america we don't have doctors |
| 01:38.05 | Amarande | Catapults are not permitted in the secure area of the airport |
| 01:39.33 | mckenziemc | catapults Amarande off an aircraft carrier. |
| 01:41.10 | Neffi | award mckenziemc the Purple Heart |
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| 03:00.07 | mckenziemc | resets Amarande's connection. |
| 03:12.37 | Trela | resets Mckenziemc. |
| 03:13.11 | mckenziemc | is case-sensitive and thus safe. |
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| 04:43.34 | Cairenn | Awesome! Our local football team, only 2 years old, is going to the Grey Cup! |
| 04:44.05 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn and goes into the snowy wastelands of Denmark |
| 04:44.12 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 04:45.56 | Amarande | hmm, I wonder if ubuntu might be better than debian for gaming |
| 04:45.59 | Amarande | much as I'm a big fan of debian |
| 04:49.59 | Arrowmaster | ive never had any issues with gaming on linux other than my hardware not being powerful enough for the games i want to play |
| 04:50.04 | Arrowmaster | using debian |
| 04:53.51 | Amarande | steam has been throwing a fit with amd open source drivers lately |
| 04:54.07 | Amarande | (also dota2 seems like it would like me to have a newer version of mesa) |
| 04:58.02 | mckenziemc | hugs Cairenn and wonders if Fisker can really tell the snowy wastelands of Denmark apart from any other snowy wastelands. |
| 04:58.09 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
| 05:00.24 | Arrowmaster | your using ati on linux, you were fucked before you started |
| 05:00.54 | Arrowmaster | and ive got lastest mesa on debian testing |
| 05:01.19 | Arrowmaster | or relatively recent, probably newer than last ubuntu release |
| 05:02.35 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: actually, AMD is considerably easier than Nvidia in general |
| 05:03.00 | Amarande | at most, you might need a firmware blob or two, and from what I've seen, the blobs actually don't seem to do anything at all to do with X, at least not on an HD7850 |
| 05:03.15 | Amarande | only thing I've seen the blob impact is whether or not the kernel can change the text mode when you're in a terminal |
| 05:03.40 | Amarande | and since the open source 3D drivers are actually good on AMD, you don't have to worry about kernel updates and such |
| 05:04.03 | Amarande | Nvidia, on the other hand, you *have to* use the proprietary drivers, and go through the whole rebuild-the-module mess if you want/need to update the kernel |
| 05:09.41 | Arrowmaster | but that blob makes things actually work |
| 05:09.57 | Arrowmaster | unlike ati where it never works properly |
| 05:10.18 | Arrowmaster | ok its late, going to bed |
| 05:10.55 | Amarande | heh, it's not AMD's fault steam insists on sticking to outdated libraries that conflict |
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| 05:20.03 | Amarande | glah |
| 05:20.10 | Amarande | what happened to debian since my HDD died :( |
| 05:20.37 | Amarande | I seem to remember I used to be able to download stuff in Chrome without it saturating my internet to the point that I practically cannot browse any web pages meanwhile |
| 05:20.53 | Amarande | unless chromium is not as good at this as chrome? |
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| 06:35.40 | Fisker | is stuck in traffic and hugs Cairenn |
| 06:35.57 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker, then yells at him for texting while driving |
| 06:37.06 | Fisker | Extended parking * |
| 06:37.35 | Cairenn | Is your vehicle running? Are you on the road? Then you are texting while driving and I am PISSED at you for it. |
| 06:42.37 | airtonix | fisker is speech-to-texting |
| 06:43.04 | airtonix | it's literally the future. we have robots. |
| 06:43.28 | Cairenn | airtonix: nice of you to try covering for him, but I'm not buying it, or he would have said so. So I'm still PISSED at him. |
| 06:43.44 | airtonix | i wouldn't expect anything else from an iphone user |
| 06:43.48 | airtonix | :> |
| 06:43.55 | Stanzilla | hahahahaa |
| 06:44.26 | Cairenn | Texting while driving has overtaken drunk driving as the leading cause of death on the roads. It's not funny. |
| 06:45.16 | Cairenn | puts on her Angry Mom hat |
| 06:47.01 | airtonix | taking life too seriously when there's no zombies around is bad for your health |
| 06:47.06 | Stanzilla | should also ban smoking while driving |
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| 07:55.26 | karl_w_w | takes airtonix seriously |
| 07:55.43 | karl_w_w | slumps to the ground, lifeless |
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| 10:23.20 | Constie | I'm looking at some code I wrote months ago, and there's a line that has a comment saying just "TODO". I have no idea what I meant for myself to do there. |
| 10:30.28 | Gnarfoz | noop |
| 10:31.40 | Semlar | maybe what you have there doesn't do what it's supposed to |
| 10:31.54 | mitch0 | better than having // FIXME! |
| 10:32.19 | Semlar | i usually write todo: something that i'll never ever get around to implementing |
| 10:32.35 | haste | I use // TODO: blah blah blah, or // XXX: blah blah blah |
| 10:32.48 | haste | TODO can be committed, while XXX gets blocked by pre-commit hook |
| 10:33.06 | Constie | Oh, that's a good idea. |
| 10:33.07 | Semlar | or if i just have "todo" it's probably in a function that's simply incomplete |
| 10:33.31 | Semlar | i try not to leave anything like that in my code though |
| 10:34.14 | Constie | I figured out that it's that I was supposed to add a config option for a frame positioning thing. |
| 10:47.25 | karl_w_w | fire constie |
| 10:47.44 | karl_w_w | obviously doesn't have suitable commenting practices |
| 10:54.22 | Constie | Agreed. |
| 11:05.49 | karl_w_w | In shocking news, the Australian government managed to do something GOOD https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/30171755/no-jab-no-pay-laws-pass-parliament/ |
| 11:25.33 | mitch0 | karl_w_w: it's a conspiracy! they want their radio chips inserted into all australians!!!one!! |
| 11:29.31 | Semlar | i think it's more likely they were thinking about ways to save themselves money |
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| 11:52.03 | karl_w_w | probably Semlar |
| 11:53.39 | karl_w_w | https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+catch+somebody+with+a+sheet |
| 11:53.46 | karl_w_w | google has failed me spectacularly |
| 11:54.39 | Semlar | maybe it is you who has failed google |
| 11:54.54 | karl_w_w | maybe |
| 11:55.05 | karl_w_w | but we'll pretend that's not possible |
| 12:05.46 | Mr_Rabies | karl_w_w, this one works pretty well |
| 12:06.06 | Mr_Rabies | get a wrench, wrap the sheet around it, throw the sheet-wrapped wrench at their head as hard as you can |
| 12:06.30 | Gnarfoz | reminds me of a certain xkcd |
| 12:06.56 | Mr_Rabies | hmm, the token is tanking at a steady rate, weird |
| 12:07.09 | Semlar | why is that weird |
| 12:07.11 | Mr_Rabies | -2.97% per hour, steady |
| 12:07.29 | Semlar | i would expect it to go back down to its normal price |
| 12:07.50 | Mr_Rabies | they're now lower than they've been in months |
| 12:08.07 | Semlar | oversaturation |
| 12:08.19 | Gnarfoz | nobody knows how the price algorithm works, anyway, so... |
| 12:08.23 | Gnarfoz | your guess is as good as any |
| 12:08.25 | Mr_Rabies | i hope they keep tanking :D |
| 12:08.36 | Semlar | it spiked because there wasn't enough supply for the demand, then people started buying tokens to sell so the price is going back down |
| 12:08.44 | Mr_Rabies | grabbed one for 31k earlier, gonna wait for 25k and grab one |
| 12:08.56 | Gnarfoz | which is... pretty much what happens continuously, since they've been introduced |
| 12:09.07 | Mr_Rabies | sorta, but it does seem the rise/fall is controlled somewhat |
| 12:09.14 | Semlar | there's a cap on how fast it can go up or down |
| 12:09.26 | Mr_Rabies | or it wouldn't be dropping by the same exact percent every 15 minutes for the past almost 24 hours |
| 12:09.27 | Semlar | i don't remember what it is |
| 12:09.52 | Mr_Rabies | looking like 3% per hour give or take |
| 12:09.54 | Semlar | granted you said it was about 3% of whatever it was at the time |
| 12:10.00 | Mr_Rabies | it raised by 3% per hour |
| 12:10.02 | Mr_Rabies | then peaked |
| 12:10.06 | Mr_Rabies | then dropped by 3% per hour |
| 12:10.20 | Semlar | i don't know if it's a set amount or if it's actually 3% of its value |
| 12:11.08 | Mr_Rabies | lookin' at https://wowtoken.info/ |
| 12:11.46 | Semlar | i just know there is a cap to prevent huge fluctuations in the price |
| 12:12.35 | Mr_Rabies | it's a little shady to me but whatever, i'm playing the game for no actual money right now while no content is coming out |
| 12:12.50 | Semlar | can you buy a token without an active account |
| 12:12.58 | Semlar | i mean without using it |
| 12:13.14 | foxlit | doesn't matter. |
| 12:13.31 | foxlit | or, er, for gold. Dunno. |
| 12:13.35 | Semlar | yeah for gold |
| 12:13.47 | Mr_Rabies | i dunno if it gets used immediately or not if you don't have an active account |
| 12:13.49 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: if your account is deactivated and you have enough gold across the account, then yes |
| 12:13.59 | Semlar | like if the price were low and you wanted to stock up on some tokens for later |
| 12:14.03 | Semlar | without actually activating the account |
| 12:14.11 | Gnarfoz | no, I don't think so |
| 12:14.28 | Gnarfoz | because it's a "wanna play? you have enough gold to buy a token, yo" flow |
| 12:15.06 | Gnarfoz | considering it's an in-game item you have to obtain, I don't see it working without being in game |
| 12:15.27 | Gnarfoz | (at least that's true for the "reverse" token) |
| 12:15.49 | Semlar | well presumably you can activate a token from your bag without an active account |
| 12:16.05 | Semlar | i know you can store them without using them |
| 12:16.50 | Gnarfoz | possible - I haven't used it for game time, yet |
| 12:18.56 | Gnarfoz | koKR price is insane |
| 12:19.02 | Gnarfoz | zhTW close by ^^ |
| 12:19.10 | Semlar | i don't think you can really compare the prices for different regions |
| 12:19.42 | Mr_Rabies | as i understand it, botting is pretty much accepted in those regions, and isn't really punished |
| 12:19.44 | Semlar | not only do their actual currencies have different values, their game economies are different |
| 12:20.41 | Mr_Rabies | just heard the fel reaver in my garrison |
| 12:20.42 | Mr_Rabies | send help |
| 12:20.52 | Mr_Rabies | oh wait no i'm in ashran |
| 12:20.53 | Semlar | i've sent another fel reaver |
| 12:20.58 | Gnarfoz | you should stop browsing MMOC while playing |
| 12:21.01 | Gnarfoz | ;-) |
| 12:21.10 | Semlar | you should stop browsing MMOC* |
| 12:21.25 | Gnarfoz | not really, unless you do your own datamining |
| 12:21.37 | Semlar | you mean unless you want to hate yourself and the game |
| 12:21.42 | Mr_Rabies | i pretty much just use it for news every now and then |
| 12:21.49 | Mr_Rabies | the forums are a cesspool so i avoid them |
| 12:21.53 | Gnarfoz | I don't see how browsing MMOC is a prerequisite for that, Semlar :P |
| 12:22.01 | Gnarfoz | I said nothing about the forums :D |
| 12:22.15 | Mr_Rabies | but nah it was immediately when i logged into ashran, and i actually checked for MMO-C tabs :p |
| 12:22.16 | Gnarfoz | they are literally the worst |
| 12:22.25 | Mr_Rabies | pretty sure blizzwatch is the worst |
| 12:22.36 | Gnarfoz | tabloid fansite |
| 12:22.39 | Gnarfoz | basically |
| 12:22.56 | Gnarfoz | but actual readers of tabloids who get to voice their mind: even worse ;) |
| 12:23.06 | Mr_Rabies | i mean, that's "gaming journalism" now |
| 12:23.14 | Mr_Rabies | there really isn't a good one for wow news |
| 12:25.24 | Semlar | i guess you could make custom adblock rules for all of MMO champion's comment sections |
| 12:25.41 | Mr_Rabies | most gaming news websites deserve nothing short of a horrible death, mmoc probably isn't even in the top 100 worst for me |
| 12:28.45 | Mr_Rabies | if there IS a good one for wow news, i'd like to be able to check that out, but I don't know of any |
| 12:43.33 | karl_w_w | I love it when david mitchell rants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q5Roqrmblg |
| 12:55.01 | Gnarfoz | how did Steven Fry put it? "Angry Logic"? ^^ |
| 12:57.42 | karl_w_w | I think so |
| 13:00.52 | foxlit | it's pointless to read MMO news now, though |
| 13:01.33 | Semlar | i just let other people subject themselves to it and filter the important news down to me |
| 13:01.36 | foxlit | everything expansion related is several months out, and will change seventeen times before anything gets released |
| 13:02.24 | Semlar | wait, you mean i'm not supposed to judge the expansion with information released before the beta has even started? |
| 13:02.37 | Semlar | that doesn't sound right |
| 13:03.52 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but if you wait until just before release and try to get all the info, you're inevitably gonna miss a lot |
| 13:04.10 | Mr_Rabies | honestly, the expansion news is one of a few things keeping me interested enough in the game to remain subbed |
| 13:04.12 | foxlit | none of it matters |
| 13:04.21 | Mr_Rabies | that's false |
| 13:04.28 | Constie | I don't read MMO news since I'm not some kind of nerd. |
| 13:04.29 | Mr_Rabies | maybe not all of it matters, but some inevitably will |
| 13:04.35 | Gnarfoz | Constie: that's why you're on IRC |
| 13:04.47 | Gnarfoz | also, since when are we back to "nerd" being a pejorative |
| 13:04.55 | Mr_Rabies | man i hope it does |
| 13:05.04 | Gnarfoz | what does? |
| 13:05.26 | Mr_Rabies | generally non-nerdy folks being like |
| 13:05.38 | Mr_Rabies | "lol i play candy crush i'm such a nerd" |
| 13:05.57 | Mr_Rabies | i'd honestly rather just go back to it being a niche thing :v |
| 13:06.21 | Mr_Rabies | i'm tired of these hipsters adopting the moniker and i realize the irony here because i'm calling them hipsters while acting like one in this regard but that's okay because i'm angry at them ok |
| 13:06.37 | foxlit | some examples, then? |
| 13:06.50 | Mr_Rabies | examples of what? :O |
| 13:07.23 | foxlit | Because realistically, no datamined or beta information plays into whether I'll end up playing the expansion or not. |
| 13:08.09 | Mr_Rabies | i like to stay informed, especially while remaining subscribed |
| 13:08.52 | Mr_Rabies | if i'm not liking the direction legion's going in i'd save myself the almost year of sub time with no new content and worry about it after it comes out |
| 13:09.24 | Semlar | why does legion affect your current subscription |
| 13:09.40 | Mr_Rabies | because if i don't think i'm gonna be playing for legion i might as well quit now |
| 13:09.54 | Mr_Rabies | i'm mostly staying subbed to remain in my guild and stay in contact with them |
| 13:10.01 | Semlar | shouldn't you play based on whether you're enjoying it as it is now? |
| 13:10.46 | Mr_Rabies | i'm enjoying it -enough- currently, but in this case it makes sense to not drop my sub if i might come back |
| 13:10.59 | Semlar | you can also technically still log in without an active subscription if all you want to do is stay in touch with guild members |
| 13:11.02 | Mr_Rabies | because i will be displaced from my guild |
| 13:11.16 | Semlar | so you don't want to get dropped |
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| 13:11.48 | Mr_Rabies | we typically kick folks after a few months of not logging in |
| 13:11.49 | Semlar | my guild loves me so it doesn't matter if i don't log in for a year |
| 13:12.03 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really support that decision, but i'm just an officer |
| 13:12.24 | Mr_Rabies | i'm two levels below GM in our guild's arrangement |
| 13:12.33 | foxlit | them guild spots be precious, 'mon. |
| 13:12.49 | Mr_Rabies | our guild values loyalty pretty heavily, generally |
| 13:13.03 | foxlit | Run. |
| 13:13.07 | Semlar | my guild values.. entertainment, i think |
| 13:13.15 | Mr_Rabies | i've been there since uh, cataclysm? |
| 13:13.17 | Constie | In my guild we just play WoW together. |
| 13:13.34 | Mr_Rabies | it's been a rollercoaster but it's a good group |
| 13:14.03 | Mr_Rabies | everyone is expected to carry their own weight and help out as best as they can, and no one is given a free ride |
| 13:16.52 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:17.22 | Mr_Rabies | we're a weird mix and we don't get along perfectly with everyone, our processes are -different- |
| 13:17.27 | Constie | Nice UI. |
| 13:17.33 | Semlar | o.o |
| 13:17.50 | Semlar | don't judge me |
| 13:17.59 | Constie | Too late! |
| 13:18.14 | Mr_Rabies | like, we want people being insanely serious and giving it 100% for our entire raid, but we take it easy at the same time? |
| 13:18.24 | Gnarfoz | we have people with "last seen: 7 years" in the roster |
| 13:19.03 | Mr_Rabies | i'm usually dead tired by the end of our raids just from mental overload, but we joke around and stuff when it's appropriate |
| 13:19.14 | Mr_Rabies | between pulls, during easy bosses, etc |
| 13:19.31 | Mr_Rabies | if we're on a hard boss we'll definitely have a few "cut the chatter" callouts, though |
| 13:20.15 | Mr_Rabies | generally new recruits have a hard time acclimating to our guild's environment for whatever reason for a while, it seems |
| 13:20.17 | Constie | I recommend doing this instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI10Bw2phZA |
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| 13:31.59 | znf | so, anyone? any ideas? http://i.imgur.com/HQcBG0O.png |
| 13:37.10 | Constie | I should have pizza. |
| 13:37.13 | Constie | Is my idea. |
| 13:37.32 | Semlar | when pizza's on a bagel you can eat pizza any time |
| 13:41.22 | Constie | Has science gone too far? |
| 13:41.32 | Gnarfoz | definitely not |
| 13:42.24 | Semlar | they were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should |
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| 14:05.56 | VIad | karl_w_w: your reaction to the winner in frankfurt? |
| 14:14.37 | VIad | I hope karl didn't die from the result. |
| 14:19.00 | Phixion | what happened in frankfurt? |
| 14:21.49 | VIad | dota tournament |
| 14:21.52 | VIad | this weekend |
| 14:21.57 | VIad | last weekend* |
| 14:22.29 | VIad | Phixion: what did you think happened? |
| 14:22.58 | Phixion | shrugs |
| 14:24.52 | VIad | you like dota? |
| 14:25.27 | Phixion | nope |
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| 14:26.27 | VIad | :( |
| 14:26.53 | Phixion | well, I don't hate it |
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| 14:51.04 | Mr_Rabies | you can't relist tokens on the AH, right? |
| 14:51.58 | Mr_Rabies | ah, nah you can't |
| 14:52.01 | Semlar | you can't resell a token |
| 14:52.05 | Mr_Rabies | would be fun to game the market today :< |
| 14:52.22 | Mr_Rabies | since it seems to be leveling out right now |
| 14:53.31 | Semlar | if i didn't have like zero interest in reactivating my account i'd buy some |
| 14:54.51 | Semlar | i'm willing to bet they'll drop when the expansion is released anyway |
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| 15:11.40 | mckenziemc | deactivates Semlar. |
| 15:14.44 | Semlar | you can't stop me |
| 15:15.15 | mckenziemc | already did. |
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| 16:49.52 | foxlit | "Mozilla has one shareholder: you." |
| 16:50.16 | foxlit | oh come on, who comes up with this drivel? |
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| 17:06.10 | Gnarfoz | Mozilla, apparently |
| 17:06.40 | foxlit | as their one shareholder, can I fire everyone involved? |
| 17:06.48 | Semlar | presumably |
| 17:06.50 | Gnarfoz | you can try |
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| 17:14.47 | Amarande | hrm, maybe I won't go install ubuntu after all |
| 17:15.00 | Amarande | debian seems plenty good enough. it was a good moment to update my live usb though. :) |
| 17:21.28 | Rythal | if the distro doesn't use e17 for it's WM, it's no good. |
| 17:22.59 | Amarande | I prefer kde, actually |
| 17:23.06 | Amarande | well, apart from that kde seems to refuse to hibernate properly |
| 17:23.18 | Amarande | which is no problem atm, but it will suck if I decide to get a laptop and pop the debian ssd into it |
| 17:23.39 | Amarande | seems to be a permissions issue of some sort ... if I type "systemctl hibernate" as root it hibernates exactly as expected |
| 17:24.06 | Amarande | but if I type it as a user, or use the kde hibernate menu option, it will save the contents of RAM out to swap and then the screen goes black but the PC does not turn off |
| 17:24.15 | Amarande | seems to be a common issue actually |
| 17:24.42 | Amarande | (also if I want to hibernate the PC during the spring, because overclocked AMD FX = space heater goodness :P) |
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| 19:57.27 | jleclanche | $.02 for anyone with better google fu than me: I'm looking for an article about the humble indie bundle, by an indie studio, that talked about how they regret going on it due to the key reseller problem and how their game has been devalued since |
| 19:59.11 | Alram | jleclanche, was it http://gamasutra.com/blogs/PaulKilduffTaylor/20150925/254656/The_Key_Masters_Reselling_and_the_Games_Industry.php |
| 19:59.49 | jleclanche | Alram: don't think it was, but that's a great article, it'll do |
| 20:00.01 | Alram | thank johndrinkwater |
| 20:00.04 | Alram | he found it :( |
| 20:01.32 | jleclanche | who's johndrinkwater |
| 20:01.36 | jleclanche | and why isn't he drinking wine |
| 20:02.16 | Rythal | http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/03/28/retailer-scam-resells-humble-bundle-games-reaps-profit.aspx |
| 20:02.35 | jleclanche | Rythal: yeah im on that one, it was linked int he article |
| 20:03.12 | jleclanche | i believe this was an article *specifically* by a studio talking about how much value their game lost |
| 20:03.32 | jleclanche | http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/JoshFairhurst/20140710/220768/Think_Before_You_Bundle.php |
| 20:03.36 | jleclanche | there it is, someone else found it :) |
| 20:04.35 | Rythal | that's just silly.. if you bundle it, your devaluing it yourself. gamers are cheap... once a game goes on sale for a certain price, we will wait months to buy it for that same price after the original sale is over. |
| 20:05.37 | jleclanche | Rythal: part of the problem is the resale |
| 20:08.58 | karl_w_w | oh no, my middle mouse button is doing multiclick again |
| 20:09.43 | karl_w_w | sometimes when I click it I will get a random number of clicks up to about 6 |
| 20:09.52 | karl_w_w | it had stopped doing it for a couple of weeks |
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| 21:35.42 | Fisker | tacklehugs Lopeppeppy |
| 21:35.53 | Lopeppeppy | Just in time to send me home, it seems. |
| 21:35.58 | Fisker | ^^ |
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| 21:36.02 | Fisker | Sorry :( |
| 21:44.57 | straddle | wasnt there someone in here during the last alpha giving out invites? hopefully he pops up again ;p |
| 21:45.28 | Gnarfoz | he was next door |
| 21:45.35 | Gnarfoz | and of course, everyone hopes that ^^ |
| 21:46.15 | straddle | Gnarfoz ill definitely be keeping an eye on this channel then lol |
| 21:47.02 | straddle | i bet they go back asking for account recommendations for a future wave |
| 21:47.28 | Rythal | I'm sure they will do the everyone but me invite policy *nods* |
| 21:48.22 | straddle | hahah |
| 21:49.14 | Gnarfoz | that's a given |
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| 21:56.22 | Amarande | and probably make sure enough top raid guilds get invited to ensure the content has a mayfly lifespan again :p |
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| 22:24.50 | straddle | holy crap did you guys see the legion spoilers on wowhead |
| 22:25.07 | Gnarfoz | yes, we didn't sleep through the weekend |
| 22:25.12 | Gnarfoz | =P |
| 22:25.16 | straddle | no |
| 22:25.18 | straddle | i mean |
| 22:25.21 | straddle | the story spoilers that just came out |
| 22:26.04 | Gnarfoz | not sure what you mean |
| 22:26.08 | Gnarfoz | there's no such thing on the front page |
| 22:26.15 | straddle | sorry not wowhead |
| 22:26.18 | garbagemangz | who dies |
| 22:26.21 | straddle | i saw simca posted some stuff on mmo c |
| 22:26.28 | garbagemangz | who gets corrupted |
| 22:26.29 | Gnarfoz | derp :p |
| 22:26.58 | straddle | i dont really wanna say out here |
| 22:27.05 | Simca | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1822797-Legion-Alpha-Beta-General-Discussion?p=37456643&viewfull=1#post37456643 |
| 22:27.07 | straddle | just in case people dont want to read spoilers |
| 22:27.08 | Simca | if you want to read it |
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| 22:30.35 | Simca | all ur vectors http://marlamin.com/u/2015-11-23_23-26-30-1R0f98AW.png |
| 22:31.07 | straddle | lol |
| 22:31.13 | straddle | Simca: enjoying alpha? |
| 22:31.23 | Simca | i haven't even launched the client yet |
| 22:31.30 | Simca | i probably won't get to until like thursday |
| 22:31.34 | Simca | too much datamining work to do |
| 22:31.59 | straddle | ouch |
| 22:32.16 | straddle | well enjoy it if you do get the chance |
| 22:32.32 | straddle | i appreciate the hard work you guys have been putting in over the past few days :D |
| 22:33.14 | jleclanche | Kalroth: I'm looking through old screenshots and this one reminded me of you! https://i.imgur.com/vW8ZeXH.jpg |
| 22:36.00 | jleclanche | https://i.imgur.com/rztp2mS.jpg |
| 22:36.02 | jleclanche | damn |
| 22:37.07 | Gnarfoz | Simca: back to the mines with you! |
| 22:37.09 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:37.35 | Gnarfoz | also, here, have a new Pepe canary. The old one is... retired |
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| 22:50.39 | g0urra | extended overwatch maintenance? |
| 22:54.32 | Gnarfoz | turning off zeh stress test |
| 22:54.50 | Gnarfoz | (kind of confused that they did a 24 hour maintenance before, but thought they'd only need 5 hours after?) |
| 22:54.57 | g0urra | that's what the maintenance was for. which was supposed to have ended an hour ago |
| 22:58.31 | Gnarfoz | like I said |
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| 23:01.33 | g0urra | oh, updated 23 minutes ago. fun http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/19973797714 |
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| 23:12.43 | Gnarfoz | ty for digging that up |
| 23:12.54 | Gnarfoz | I'm busy F5'ing my acct mgmt page |
| 23:13.11 | straddle | ;p |
| 23:13.14 | straddle | good luck dude |
| 23:14.07 | Gnarfoz | I might just go to bed out of protest |
| 23:15.41 | g0urra | same |
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| 23:21.56 | mckenziemc | o.o |
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| 23:57.07 | Mr_Rabies | are there any auction addons that can just use the data from the undermine journal database instead of building its own? |
| 23:57.26 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: addons can't go online |
| 23:57.30 | Mr_Rabies | i love the interface for auctionator, but feel the database is mostly unnecessary when TUJ exists :< |
| 23:57.36 | Amarande | otherwise things like wowhead would be that much easier to gather data for |
| 23:57.48 | Mr_Rabies | i know, but there's an TUJ addon, it doesn't pull the data in realtime obviously |
| 23:57.57 | Mr_Rabies | it updates 2-3 times a week which is enough for me |
| 23:58.31 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather auctionator just use my TUJ addon's database instead of its own, but that's not possible as far as i can tell |
