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03:52.42foxlit<PROTECTED>
03:53.29Semlartackles foxlit
03:56.59mckenziemcreleases Semlar's theta version.
03:57.06Gnarfoztut tut
03:57.06Semlarwhere did you get that!
03:57.11Gnarfozskipping the previous beta build
03:57.43Semlarlocks mckenziemc in torhal's basement
03:58.07TorhalWow, Semlar. That's pretty fucking harsh. I live in Alabama - we have no basements.
03:58.13mckenziemcSemlar: same place as your eta build.
03:58.36SemlarI HAVE NO BUILDS
03:58.46mckenziemcdestroys Semlar.
03:59.26Gnarfozthat's just laziness on your part at this point. :p
03:59.38Semlari have a problem
04:02.31Torhalsolves Semlar's problems with fire.
04:04.40mckenziemcsolves Torhal's problem with proper documentation.
04:04.51Semlardon't be absurd
04:05.01TorhalThe code is the documentation.
04:05.09Semlaryeah, it's all right there
04:05.49mckenziemcdocumentation for your plea of insanity?
04:07.20Semlarthis was hard for me to write so it should be hard for you to read
04:09.05mckenziemcrewrites Semlar to run on Torhal's hardware.
04:09.24Torhalruns on mckenziemc's hardware, while wearing golf shoes.
04:09.43mckenziemc:(
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04:35.24Gethenifty new util function: Mixin(object, ...) https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/20756/Util.lua#168
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06:03.23CairennShirik: no I hadn't
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06:27.21mckenziemchugs Cairenn and goes to bed.
06:27.27Cairennhugs mckenziemc
06:55.21Rythaloh how cruel blizzard is, hooking overwatch into real battle.net so you can see all your friends that got into the weekend beta :/
07:35.04Cairennmakes sure not to log in while Rythal is awake
07:36.14Semlarharsh
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07:46.29TorhalYou should make an AddOn called "The Hounde," Semlar, and then not release it.
07:46.37TorhalHounds*
07:47.04TorhalMaybe even "The Kraken."
07:47.36Semlari do have one code named kraken
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08:00.57ShirikCairenn: it looks really interesting
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09:45.03Fiskerhey Shirik
09:45.07Fiskerhugs Cairenn
09:45.13Shirikhey Fisker
09:45.14Cairennhugs Fisker
09:45.34FiskerI'm scared Shirik
09:58.30Fiskeris scared and seeks Cairenn for comfort
09:58.38Cairenn:)
10:07.45Shirikfor any of you with amazon prime
10:07.52Shirik"the man in the high castle" is really good
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12:19.08zenzelezzI like how PHP named a new operator the "spaceship operator" (<=>)
12:55.22Neffiwhat the
13:08.33foxlityay, facehunters@
13:09.01VIadkarl_w_w: http://imgur.com/R17hHDe
13:14.24Simcathat only occurs on win 10 upgrade
13:14.32Simcait's supposed to be a feature
13:21.27karl_w_wyes VIad
13:24.32VIaddota final in 5 min, karl_w_w
13:26.00karl_w_wyes
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16:23.32fewynman i love the transmog market
16:23.40fewyni bought an item for 10g that values for 13k
16:23.49fewynlook at that profit margin
16:23.49Amarandefewyn: hah, nowadays it's the only market
16:23.54fewynif only i could do this irl
16:24.03Amarandetransmog and mounts, that's about it
16:24.07Amarandebarely anyone even buys mats anymore
16:24.23fewynbecause they made the mistake of putting "free" mats in the garrisons
16:24.32fewyni buy herbs when i do glyphs
16:24.42fewynbut i only do that once a month /maybe/
16:24.51fewynglyphs aren't a real money mover
16:24.53fewynanymore
16:24.59fewyni just do them because of habit
16:25.11fewynalmost all my gold comes from the transmog market
16:25.11Amarandeyeah, nothing seems to really be a money mover anymore except for xmog (mounts sometimes, but account wide mounts kinda puts a damper on it)
16:25.25fewyni had another item i bought 2 months ago for 10g that just sold for 15k gold the other day
16:25.41fewyni had to relist it a lot sure but that's still a big profit
16:25.49fewynhttps://theunderminejournal.com/#us/velen/seller/syrelana
16:25.54Amarande'course it could also be that people in general are just hoarding gold for free WoW instead of buying the little things they used to
16:27.19fewynthis is my biggest ticket item i have right now
16:27.21fewynhttps://theunderminejournal.com/#us/velen/item/20668
16:29.03Amarandehuh. surprised that's that sought-after
16:29.20AmarandeI always thought the big money items were the ones that showed skin (although those probably are messed with by lots of competition)
16:29.54Amarandealthough of course UJ only shows the male model, whereas it's the female model that you get all your profits off of most likely LOL
16:31.10fewynit's no longer available in game Amarande
16:31.12fewynit's from vanilla
16:31.18fewynfrom one of the world events
16:31.26fewyniirc
16:31.32fewynAQ gates i think
16:34.27Amarandenope, it was that Twilight garb thing
16:34.41Amarandeprobably would have been less valuable if it was the AQ gates stuff, because people liked doing that, that was fun
16:35.08Amarandethe twilight garb thing on the other hand was irritating and a pain in the bum and apparently nobody liked to do it because I used to try selling twilight vestments on AH and nobody ever wanted them even at rock bottom prices
16:36.45fewynyeah these legs are from the AQ gates event the thing is this is boe which means it hasn't been used since like 2005/2006 whenever that was i can't remember
16:37.03fewynthere's also no similar model for it
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17:02.29Ressyoooh
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18:40.35karl_w_whttps://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/3tpw7e/where_is_686/ VIad
18:40.54VIadgame over, karl_w_w
18:42.31VIadwhat teams was OG made up of, karl_w_w?
18:42.55VIadmonkey business
18:43.02karl_w_wyes
18:49.19AmarandeI still haven't had the chance to try Dota 2
18:49.27Amarandewhen I tried to spectate a game in it, it crashed
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20:28.19Simcamore blizzard optimizations
20:28.28Simcathey removed duplicate rows in one of the dbcs
20:28.45Simcaand just have it so that when their lookups fail, they iterate upwards to match
20:28.57kd3>.<
20:30.03FiskerWe hardcoded the bank to begin at slot 25 which is horrible so let us continue that trend
20:30.12FiskerThat can't ever go wrong
20:31.03SimcaI swear there is a department at blizzard just for this, and at the end of the day every day, they announce how many bytes saved over the intercom and everyone at blizzard is forced to clap
20:32.40AmarandeFisker: and before long "why is there a healthstone in my void storage" :)
20:32.43FiskerThat kind of reminds me of an idea my coworker made to free up space by deleting old users home directories but not deleting the users
20:32.49FiskerThought it was stupid
20:33.10FiskerBoss told me to do it
20:33.40AmarandeFisker: that possibly has legitimate reasons on a large system
20:33.52Amarandeuid reassignment could lead to god knows what security issues to track down :S
20:34.17Amarandebetter to keep them permanently assigned so the numbers are juped to new users
20:34.59Amarande(is userdel smart enough to remove stale uids from /etc/group, in particular? I'm not 100% sure offhand)
20:35.52FiskerNot Linux
20:36.13SimcaTODAY: FOUR BYTES SAVED. APPROXIMATELY A 0.0000000001428571% SAVINGS. CLAPPING MAY NOW COMMENCE.
20:36.21SimcaDEV HOURS WELL SPENT
20:36.38Fisker^^
20:36.53Simca(estimate based off 35gb install)
20:37.05FiskerI saved 20GB pruning old home directories
20:37.24Fisker1TB from enabling deduplicatiom :3
20:37.29FiskerWith an n
20:37.48Alramis dedupe supported yet on windoze
20:37.49Alramos level
20:37.51Alramwtb
20:37.54FiskerYes
20:37.58Alramorly
20:37.58Alramhow
20:37.59FiskerBeen since 2012
20:38.16FiskerNot officially on client
20:38.25FiskerNot sure if they have it in windows 10
20:40.05AmarandeAlram: also, dedupe is extremely RAM intensive
20:40.14Alram:(
20:40.15Amarandeunless you've got 16-32GB on your box, probably you don't want to use it
20:40.21FiskerHey Alram
20:40.36FiskerIf I get legion beta before you I'm not playing it
20:40.40Fisker<3
20:40.45AmarandeI'm not even sure how worth it it is for servers nowadays, given how cheap disk space is
20:40.50Alramive had legion beta for days
20:40.51Alramon my hdd
20:41.04FiskerPlease
20:41.09FiskerYou know what I mean
20:41.16Amarandealthough I'm not 100% sure it won't become a legal requirement ultimately ... standard not a lawyer or sysadmin disclaimer but the Mega court case might suggest it will
20:41.47Alramthere Fisker happy now
20:42.03Amaranderemember, Dotcom got in trouble partly because he only deleted some links to the infringing data when he knew of others
20:42.19Amarandeand apparently "taking steps to avoid confirming a high probability of infringement" is an offence
20:42.28Alramugh
20:42.36FiskerWith what Alram ?
20:42.46Alrami have overwatch on in the background
20:42.48Alramwhile doing other things
20:42.53Amarandeseems to me that by not deduping your data someone could say you're willfully blinding yourself to the existence of other copies of a given piece of data (and therefore trying to pull a Mega)
20:43.18FiskerOk
20:43.21Amarandethen again, it's block rather than file level ... but what does that matter in court, look how AMD's getting raked over the coals over ridiculousness over "What is a Core?" :P
20:43.34FiskerI'll run legion in the background without playing them
20:43.35FiskerThen
20:43.38Fisker<3
20:43.47Alramfine by me
20:43.47FiskerAnd I'm just messing around Alram
20:43.56Alramyouve said it like 4-5 times already since beta started
20:44.02Alramunconciously not messing around!
20:44.02Amarandesome folks are apparently wondering if we're even going to get Zen now or if the core count lawsuit is going to be the end of AMD before they have a chance :|
20:45.10FiskerI like joking around Alram
21:05.13GnarfozAlram: beta or streams?
21:05.15Gnarfoz(OW)
21:06.22Alrambeta
21:08.03Gnarfozyou busy in the mines or are you up for a game or 20?
21:10.09Fisker:P
21:15.16Alrammines
21:16.33FiskerI'd play a game or 20
21:16.37FiskerBut you know my luck
21:16.55FiskerGood night
21:19.11Gnarfoznn Fisker
21:49.03foxlitSimca: DEV HOURS WELL SPENT << you're way overestimating the significance of this.
21:51.49Simcafoxlit: not by a ton. this shit is hardcoded.
21:51.54Simca-by dbc filename-
21:52.17Simcathere is no detection system in place, it checks the filename of the file for how it should be parsed
21:52.31Simcathere are individual functions for tens of different parsing methods now
21:52.47foxlitwhich seems like it should all be automatically generated based on some record definitions somewhere.
21:53.06Simcayou would hope, but then there's item-sparse
21:53.21Simcait has a completely unique format with 6-byte identifiers
21:53.31Simca(again checked for by name)
21:56.07foxlitautomatically generated code doesn't care about your weird identifier sizes.
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23:13.55zenzelezz"You're carrying too much and can't run!" - fine, I'll walk back home. I surely can't live without these junk items! (971/250)
23:14.26Amarandezenzelezz, depending on how evil the game is ... :)
23:14.52Amarande"What, you don't still have the little piece of variegated yellow and green congealed glop in a jar on you? TOO BAD"
23:15.18Amarande... said every classical old-school adventure game, for starters. LOL
23:15.21zenzelezz"Mwahaha, I knew these 7 Ancient Globes would be essential!"
23:18.22zenzelezzit intrigues me that it doesn't impact jumping at all
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23:32.16HoggelHow do I get the correct itemlevel for a timewarped item? GetItemInfo reports 346 for a timewarped cataclysm cloak, but I want to get the function that tells me it's really 675
23:34.20Semlar2you could pull it out of its tooltip
23:34.38Semlar2there's possibly some way to get it from the item link
23:38.11HoggelHow do I get the tooltip for the item, can't find any docs for GetToolTipInfo
23:38.29HoggelI guess that's the function to use?
23:42.01Semlar2no, you create your own GameTooltip frame, set it to the item link and iterate over its font strings until you find the item level
23:43.08HoggelAlright, thanks
23:44.07Semlar2search for tooltip scraping, there should be an example around
23:45.43Semlar2http://www.wowace.com/addons/libitemupgradeinfo-1-0/ this might support it too
23:51.34Semlar2http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/19973797484 o.o
23:57.04Ressykd3: Are you going to start your emails for APIs for Legion?
23:57.58FiskerThe diffs?
23:58.09FiskerI thought he stopped
23:58.53RessyWTB
23:58.56Ressy:)
23:59.17FiskerThat'll be three fiddy

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