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| 00:05.55 | Primer | I tried to login to my son's wow account knowing it had run out of time, but apparently there's not enough gold to buy a token. Does gold in mail count towards that? |
| 00:06.17 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 00:08.22 | Amarande | also, to reactivate with a token, does all the necessary gold need to be on a single character and/or realm? |
| 00:08.36 | Amarande | (and for that matter, what's the algo if it has to suck gold from multiple characters?) |
| 00:09.09 | nevcairiel | its supposed to take it equally from all chars, but if it has to it'll probably just take as much as it has it |
| 00:09.12 | nevcairiel | to* |
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| 00:12.15 | Primer | My understanding was that it was only from one realm |
| 00:14.05 | raylu | i bet support could work it out for you |
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| 00:40.57 | znf | ...having to add each and every god damn ikvm/ipmi etc. IP to Java's whitelist crap is annoying as fuck |
| 00:42.38 | airtonix_ | real men don't complain about java |
| 00:42.48 | znf | wonder if there's a better way to just whitelist an IP range |
| 00:42.51 | Torhal | airtonix_: znf complains about everything. :D |
| 00:43.14 | znf | well, every time I try to log on a new ikvm thingie, I end up getting a blocked message |
| 00:43.22 | znf | then I have to add the url to the list |
| 00:43.24 | znf | then do it again |
| 00:43.31 | airtonix_ | stop using java |
| 00:43.43 | airtonix_ | [ x ] issue solved |
| 00:44.06 | znf | yeah, tell Intel, Supermicro, Tyan etc .to stop using java for their ikvm crap |
| 00:44.17 | airtonix_ | no. i'm just telling you. |
| 00:44.27 | Trela | WoW tokens have really gone up in gold price. |
| 00:44.48 | Torhal | Trela: Do you need roof repairs? |
| 00:44.59 | znf | airtonix_, then give me another alternative to ikvm applets P |
| 00:45.00 | znf | :P |
| 00:45.04 | znf | I would love to use something else |
| 00:45.06 | Amarande | znf: yeah, java sucks mightily |
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| 00:45.45 | Trela | Torhal: Looks like I lost a few shingles. I will get it scheduled to be repaired soon. I believe it is covered under warranty. |
| 00:45.49 | Amarande | hm. use openjre/jdk on linux? pretty sure it's only oracle java that has that fascist whitelisting rule |
| 00:45.57 | znf | I'm on Windows |
| 00:46.09 | Torhal | Trela: Nice. Glad it wasn't worse - that wind last night was pretty intense. |
| 00:46.29 | Amarande | znf: then get linux. virtualbox is your friend. :) |
| 00:46.37 | znf | ...on a completely unrelated topic, I just "discovered" the apt. I'm renting on Airbnb has an air purifier! |
| 00:46.42 | znf | was a bit broken, but I fixed! |
| 00:47.33 | znf | was getting bothered by all the dust |
| 00:47.41 | Primer | haha that ipmi shit doesn't work on Linux |
| 00:47.43 | znf | as much as I love bucharest, I hate the dust here :( |
| 00:47.47 | Amarande | heh, wait a minute, did I just recommend avoiding one piece of oracle software by using another one? :) |
| 00:47.47 | znf | Primer, doesn't? |
| 00:48.09 | znf | how come? isn't java multiplatform by default? |
| 00:48.11 | Semlar | is it one of them ozone purifiers because i hear those cause cancer |
| 00:48.12 | Primer | "Write once, run everywhere" <-- such a fucking joke |
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| 00:48.37 | znf | Semlar, daikin ururu air purifier mck75jvm-k |
| 00:48.50 | znf | HOLY CRAP AT THE PRICE OF THIS THING |
| 00:49.04 | Amarande | Primer: nono that applies to java's memory security model, it's like ink, hacker writes to memory once and data of his choice runs everywhere :D |
| 00:49.04 | raylu | yeah, you don't get multiplatform by just using java |
| 00:49.36 | znf | anyway, wish there was some sort of replacement for all the ikvm/ipmi thingies I'm using :- |
| 00:49.40 | znf | :-/ |
| 00:49.46 | znf | I hate java's guts |
| 00:50.06 | Primer | Guessing the code's not signed? |
| 00:50.09 | raylu | the one time i used ipmi, it was between some java app and some cli tool, both which half-worked |
| 00:50.14 | znf | Primer, yup |
| 00:50.16 | raylu | maybe the cli tool has gotten better? ipmitool i think? |
| 00:50.18 | Primer | Because if it was, you could just trust the signer |
| 00:50.28 | Semlar | i actually have an air purifier i just never change the filter on so it's probably not doing anything |
| 00:50.33 | znf | raylu, I"m mostly interested in the ikvm aspect |
| 00:50.49 | znf | Semlar, this thing has a water tank, I'm guessing it's using that to do stuff |
| 00:50.58 | Semlar | it's probably also a humidifier |
| 00:51.01 | znf | yes |
| 00:51.13 | Amarande | znf: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=9c3e3819eca1905a2e3ffce0e9409a51&topic=27927.msg247339#msg247339 of any use? |
| 00:51.59 | Semlar | mine's basically just a fan with a filter on it |
| 00:52.13 | Amarande | actually, come to think of it |
| 00:52.24 | Amarande | they're going to have huge problems soon if they don't get the hell rid of java |
| 00:52.24 | znf | Amarande, that just talks about java |
| 00:52.29 | Semlar | the last time i changed out the pre-filter it was just caked solid with dust |
| 00:52.51 | Amarande | especially since the major browsers (except IE or Edge, maybe?) no longer support java at all |
| 00:53.04 | znf | FF does, opera, too, IE, too |
| 00:53.11 | znf | so basically just Chrome doesn't |
| 00:53.12 | Amarande | Google and later on Mozilla literally decided on the nuclear option to deal with the constant spectre of java security problems |
| 00:53.22 | Amarande | znf: firefox is phasing out npapi as well |
| 00:53.30 | znf | Semlar, mine does http://www.atec.ro/upload/produse/DAIKIN_Purificatoare_de_aer_MCK75JVM-K-990x593pix.png |
| 00:53.43 | Semlar | it has an ionizer |
| 00:53.46 | Amarande | and apparently the whole phase out of npapi was pretty much a targeted assault on java |
| 00:53.51 | Semlar | that means it's making ozone |
| 00:54.16 | znf | yeah, smells like fresh rain |
| 00:54.25 | Amarande | although I've heard they've been phasing npapi out for a while, so I start to wonder now if they recanted the decision *shrug* |
| 00:54.30 | znf | Good. because fuck java. |
| 00:54.37 | znf | at this point, I would have prefered Flash |
| 00:54.38 | Semlar | yeah the ionizers are pretty effective but i'm not sure how safe they are |
| 00:54.50 | Amarande | maybe there was fear that it would help Microsoft against the open source community |
| 00:55.28 | Amarande | because there's still that pesky stuff that *does* unfortunately need java, and if the major open source browsers abandon it, it's telling people "if you want to use this server architecture you're stuck with Windows" more or less |
| 00:55.34 | Amarande | (is opera even still maintained for linux?) |
| 00:56.28 | Amarande | linux already went through a phase of near unviability on the desktop thanks to browser issues so it'd really not be a good idea to let that happen again :S |
| 00:57.19 | znf | those ipmi/ikvm thingies don't run applets |
| 00:57.25 | znf | they download a jnlp file |
| 00:57.36 | znf | so it doesn't matter if the browser does npapi or not |
| 00:57.56 | znf | ...except that Intel's multiflex container thingies have a routine for detecting java |
| 01:05.32 | karl_w_w | does grep try to search within all files, or only files with a text file extension? |
| 01:08.07 | znf | grep "something" *.txt |
| 01:08.15 | znf | grep "something" *.nottxt |
| 01:08.37 | znf | grep greps trough everything you tell it to |
| 01:08.39 | znf | even binary files |
| 01:09.41 | karl_w_w | "computer, grep my things!" |
| 01:10.07 | karl_w_w | and grep responds "grep grepgrep grep" |
| 01:10.36 | Torhal | s/grep/Malkovich/ |
| 01:19.25 | Semlar | greps torhal |
| 01:19.39 | Torhal | Neffis Semlar with airtonix. |
| 01:20.01 | karl_w_w | finds Torhal in stripclub.gif |
| 01:21.02 | Torhal | karl_w_w: http://www.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/2347160738_80369de88a.jpg |
| 01:21.21 | karl_w_w | smoking gun |
| 01:21.31 | Torhal | >.> |
| 01:37.58 | mckenziemc | consults karl_w_w's man page. |
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| 03:32.06 | kd3 | heh. cata heroics are still hard, especially for people who've obviously never done them |
| 03:32.13 | kd3 | just got out of a full of fail grim batol |
| 03:32.54 | kullervo | my experience was the complete opposite |
| 03:33.19 | kullervo | but.. I'm a tank, and found paladins scale very well in cata dungeons |
| 03:34.05 | mckenziemc | scales kullervo's pay accordingly. |
| 03:34.37 | kullervo | someone in lfr told me I'm pretty and it was very confusing |
| 03:34.44 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 03:35.06 | kullervo | because it was in whisper and the wording suggested it wasn't IC |
| 03:36.32 | Semlar | nobody ever tells me i'm pretty |
| 03:38.04 | mckenziemc | cats Semlar's woman page. |
| 03:39.43 | mckenziemc | (it's empty) |
| 03:41.42 | kullervo | Semlar: yeah me neither and it's sort of expected |
| 03:42.04 | mckenziemc | now don't say that :( |
| 03:42.05 | kullervo | er wait yeah they do while I'm at work and it's the sort of "you're pretty" that counts as sexual harassment |
| 03:42.41 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 03:43.01 | Semlar | that's okay neffi still loves me |
| 03:43.30 | kullervo | mckenziemc: I don't identify as "pretty", I'm "srong" and "handsome" |
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| 04:42.03 | Simca | DBM looking at decimals leads to some silly sentences now |
| 04:42.04 | Simca | [23:40:49] <DBM> 25 Player (Heroic) - Sindragosa down after 11.34 seconds! This is a new record! (Old record was 11.34 seconds). You have 7 total victories. |
| 04:46.01 | Amarande | heh, how the mighty have fallen |
| 04:46.22 | Amarande | I remember when we never managed to beat 10 player heroic Sindy and 10 player regular took several minutes :) |
| 04:55.57 | Fisker | hey Simca |
| 04:55.57 | Fisker | e |
| 04:55.57 | Fisker | y |
| 04:58.39 | mckenziemc | Fiskerey. |
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| 09:29.04 | Nataska | anyone in here who can help a newbie? |
| 09:29.36 | Semlar | maybe |
| 09:30.03 | Semlar | don't ask if you can ask a question though, nobody is ever going to respond to that |
| 09:30.17 | Nataska | trying to make a simple addon that replaces the follower portrait when you click and drag them form the mission table menu |
| 09:30.26 | Nataska | having trouble getting the hook to work |
| 09:31.34 | Semlar | this sounds like foxlit's area of expertise |
| 09:32.10 | Semlar | what have you tried |
| 09:32.38 | Nataska | basically a posthook on the GarrisonFollowerTooltip_Show function |
| 09:32.45 | Nataska | not even sure if that's what i'm supposed to do |
| 09:36.07 | Semlar | well there's GarrisonFollowerListButton_OnDragStart and GarrisonMissionPageFollowerFrame_OnDragStart |
| 09:36.17 | Semlar | i don't know if either of those are for the button you're talking about dragging |
| 09:36.22 | Gnarfoz | znf: Java security prompts for the various KVM applets of IDRAC/iRMC/RMM/iLO/etc suuuuuuuuck so bad. :P |
| 09:36.33 | Gnarfoz | znf: I know exactly how you feel ^^ |
| 09:37.00 | Nataska | Hmm, either one of those sounds viable though |
| 09:37.32 | Semlar | i would just /run hooksecurefunc('GarrisonMissionPageFollowerFrame_OnDragStart', function() print('GarrisonMissionPageFollowerFrame_OnDragStart') end) and see if it prints when you drag |
| 09:37.51 | Semlar | for both functions |
| 09:38.18 | nevcairiel | if the scripts are hooked up like they usually do it these days, you migh need to hookscript the frames instead |
| 09:38.37 | Semlar | oh you're right the xml might prevent that |
| 09:39.04 | Semlar | forgot about that bit |
| 09:39.34 | Nataska | yeah nothing appeared |
| 09:39.35 | Semlar | you should do /fstack over the buttons anyway to see what they're called |
| 09:39.48 | Semlar | and then you can figure out how they work in the framexml |
| 09:40.02 | Nataska | fstack? |
| 09:40.07 | Semlar | type /fstack |
| 09:40.08 | Nataska | sorry, really new at this :/ |
| 09:40.40 | Semlar | it'll show a tooltip with a list of frames that are under your cursor |
| 09:40.55 | Nataska | ooh, fancy! |
| 09:40.56 | Semlar | and you can hit alt to cycle through the list |
| 09:42.11 | Nataska | garrisonmissionframeFollowersListScrollFrameButton? |
| 09:43.34 | Nataska | garrisonfollowerplacerframe is the thing i want to replace |
| 09:44.01 | Semlar | it's just one frame? |
| 09:44.42 | Nataska | it's in the <high> section, whereas the list button is in the medium section, if that makes sense |
| 09:44.42 | Semlar | https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/live/AddOns/Blizzard_GarrisonUI/Blizzard_GarrisonMissionUI.xml#L3250 |
| 09:45.15 | Nataska | yes! |
| 09:45.46 | Semlar | there's a frame above that called GarrisonFollowerPlacer that looks like it inherits the portrait template |
| 09:47.21 | Semlar | that's defined here https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/20726/UIPanelTemplates.xml#2628 |
| 09:48.23 | Nataska | if it inherits from portrait can i replace it with something like an animation? |
| 09:49.08 | Semlar | well you should determine if GarrisonFollowerPlacer is the frame you're interested in by hiding it or something |
| 09:49.41 | Nataska | I see |
| 09:49.59 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:50.22 | Nataska | works! |
| 09:51.01 | Semlar | and then something like GarrisonFollowerPlacer.Portrait:SetTexture('interface/icons/inv_mushroom_11') should work |
| 09:52.03 | Nataska | haha, that is awesome |
| 09:52.04 | Semlar | what did you want to animate? like a 3d portrait? |
| 09:52.21 | Nataska | the npc's choke animation |
| 09:52.23 | Nataska | like as if you're actually picking them up |
| 09:52.54 | Semlar | is there an existing model you want to do that or just on that frame over their portrait |
| 09:53.31 | Nataska | the npc's model to replace the portrait, like what we just did with the mushroom |
| 09:53.45 | Nataska | so if i pick up a follower, it's that follower's in game model dancing or something |
| 09:53.54 | Semlar | i'm not actually sure how easy it's going to be to identify the proper animation for each model even if you get everything set up |
| 09:54.36 | Semlar | it should be technically possible but it's not like the animations are labeled |
| 09:54.46 | Nataska | hmm |
| 09:55.08 | Nataska | where is it accessing the assets when you give it the 'interface/icons/inv_mushroom_11' thing? |
| 09:55.51 | nevcairiel | dont use mushroom 11, its a trap |
| 09:55.55 | Semlar | too late |
| 09:55.58 | Nataska | i noticed, lol |
| 09:56.03 | Nataska | bugging up my game! |
| 09:56.18 | Semlar | well the reference to the portrait texture i got from the template here https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/20726/UIPanelTemplates.xml#2628 |
| 09:56.31 | Semlar | <Texture parentKey="Portrait"> |
| 09:56.52 | Semlar | the path to the texture itself i just have memorized |
| 09:58.02 | Semlar | they added a new 3D model frame type specifically for displaying those garrison mission fights which i think will be your best bet for displaying the animation, if you can identify it |
| 09:58.35 | Semlar | otherwise, animating a regular dressupmodel is kind of annoying |
| 10:00.10 | Semlar | i think it's called CinematicModel |
| 10:00.27 | Semlar | i played with it on the beta but that was some time ago.. |
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| 10:02.29 | Nataska | the mission fights that display after a mission is done right? |
| 10:05.33 | Semlar | pretty much all of the animation sequences, like the chest opening for your rewards and ships sinking |
| 10:08.15 | Nataska | FollowersFrame.Followerx |
| 10:08.21 | Nataska | where x = 1 or 2, etc. |
| 10:08.36 | Nataska | at least that's what it is in the ship frame |
| 10:08.41 | Semlar | so you're going to have to make your model frame, put it where you want it, detect what follower has been picked up, set the model to it and tell it to play the right animation |
| 10:09.42 | Nataska | right |
| 10:12.20 | Nataska | it's getting stuff to hook into me picking the follower up that was originally confusing me |
| 10:15.23 | Semlar | well, they call GarrisonMissionFrame_SetFollowerPortrait which you should probably be able to hook and it also feeds it info |
| 10:17.08 | Semlar | the table it gets has the followerID which you can probably get the model from |
| 10:17.53 | Semlar | i don't know what else is in it, try /dump GarrisonFollowerPlacer.info |
| 10:21.12 | Nataska | oh god, it's in hex |
| 10:21.18 | Nataska | wowhead has it i think |
| 10:21.37 | Nataska | followerid for the one i'm trying is 157 |
| 10:21.50 | Semlar | you only want to do it for one of the followers? |
| 10:22.09 | Nataska | no all of them |
| 10:22.16 | Nataska | that's just the one i'm testing right now |
| 10:23.20 | Nataska | info dumps a bunch of stuff: followerid,portraiticonID, etc. |
| 10:23.32 | Semlar | anything about the model |
| 10:23.52 | Semlar | i don't have access to the game |
| 10:23.55 | Nataska | displayID? |
| 10:24.01 | Semlar | that should work |
| 10:26.24 | Semlar | i think they use model:SetDisplayInfo(displayID) |
| 10:27.15 | Nataska | yeah, just found that too |
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| 10:39.54 | Nataska | ack, it's late. I think I have a good idea of what I need to do next. Thanks man :) |
| 10:52.45 | znf | Gnarfoz, yes, it sucks balls |
| 10:55.12 | Gnarfoz | additionally, there's some versions of IDRAC that attach a date string or something to the jnlp file name, after the .jnlp... so it isn't recognized as a jnlp file |
| 10:55.43 | Gnarfoz | actually, it's IP and some other stuff... still. dumb as hell. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fix-idrac-jnlp-file/knpcepbijjjpmlhbpmkjknghbeghiibo :D |
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| 14:46.21 | jleclanche | ~seen dagmar |
| 14:46.25 | purl | dagmar <~dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 35d 19h 15m 14s ago, saying: 'We'll start with the rich people when the time comes.'. |
| 14:47.02 | jleclanche | I guess he left us. |
| 14:48.45 | mckenziemc | maybe he struck it rich |
| 14:48.52 | jleclanche | https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-source-router#/ |
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| 15:06.02 | mckenziemc | well, i suppose a rasbperry pi couldn't route gigabit ethernet very well |
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| 15:39.40 | mckenziemc | hugs Lopeppeppy. |
| 15:41.45 | Lopeppeppy | Bright the day, mckenziemc. |
| 15:42.00 | mckenziemc | not yet! |
| 15:42.17 | karl_w_w | anyone use a joystick? |
| 15:42.29 | karl_w_w | I mean the kind you plug into a PC and play flight sims with |
| 15:42.54 | mckenziemc | throttles karl_w_w. |
| 15:43.06 | karl_w_w | kinky |
| 15:43.17 | Lopeppeppy | ... what did I walk into the middle of? |
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| 15:43.38 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w's joystick. |
| 15:43.58 | Lopeppeppy | It's that big I can walk on it, like Han Solo stepping on Jabba's tail? |
| 15:45.19 | mckenziemc | no comment |
| 15:46.04 | Amarande | hmmm. |
| 15:46.08 | Amarande | apparently I need to back up my data *now* |
| 15:46.21 | Amarande | but my entire drive is mounted read-only (due to aforementioned need to backup) |
| 15:46.27 | Amarande | which means I can't create a directory to mount into because ro |
| 15:47.04 | Lopeppeppy | Time for an external hard drive or cloud back up service. |
| 15:47.21 | Gnarfoz | get both |
| 15:47.23 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 15:48.00 | karl_w_w | or a NAS |
| 15:48.06 | Amarande | ah, /root mount works |
| 15:48.06 | karl_w_w | s/or/and/ |
| 15:48.12 | Amarande | you know, that dir never seemed useful at all before |
| 15:52.51 | Amarande | oh cool, i/o error when I try to back up any files that I haven't recently touched |
| 15:52.53 | Amarande | fuuuuuuuuu |
| 15:53.05 | Amarande | yes mckenziemc, I definitely need a day brightener right about now |
| 15:53.13 | Amarande | peppy is right |
| 15:55.28 | mckenziemc | well apparently your day isn't bright so idk about that |
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| 16:02.22 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYRENWT8lz8 |
| 16:04.14 | Constie | ABC: Always Be having your important data baCked up remotely in case of local drive failure. |
| 16:04.16 | Amarande | at least this is my linux box so I could *attempt* recovery, albeit unsuccessfully |
| 16:04.34 | Amarande | and I'm not sure I really have anything much important that's lost now apart from some saved games |
| 16:04.42 | Amarande | guess I'll be playing Eye of the Beholder 1 over again instead of being able to go straight into 2 |
| 16:04.57 | Amarande | urgh, and starting Wizardry 6 over from start, too :| |
| 16:05.41 | Amarande | oh, and won't be doing my LP of the Gold Box series since those screenshots are up the river too |
| 16:06.25 | Amarande | but yeah, at least this is my linux box. Windows probably would have been much more catastrophic, probably a Sad screen going off in the middle of the night and me waking up to a non-booting PC, since I'm pretty sure Windows doesn't know "remount readonly" |
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| 16:07.52 | Amarande | what more irritates me is why this always has to happen on an effing Thursday |
| 16:08.29 | Amarande | which means I get to either be without a computer for days (maybe weeks in this case, if shipping is slow and Thanksgiving gets in the way :|), or have to pay brick and mortar prices |
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| 16:09.43 | Rythal | none of your B&M do online price matching? |
| 16:10.33 | Amarande | Not sure if the Best Buy or Walmart do (or if the Walmart even has hard disks here) |
| 16:10.49 | Rythal | Best Buy should depending on which online store |
| 16:11.21 | Rythal | I price matched amazon for my orion spark keyboard at best buy |
| 16:11.27 | Amarande | Crud, now I begin to wonder if that odd spin-up spin-down sound I kept hearing and thinking was the PSU fan was actually the hard disk dying |
| 16:11.59 | Amarande | Nothing ever showed up on SMART though. Heck last night I was bragging about my 10932 hours of use that I got out of this hard disk without any errors. |
| 16:12.14 | Amarande | Then I woke up this morning and Hexchat told me I couldn't save anything from this session because it could not write to /home/amarande/.config/hexchat |
| 16:12.37 | Amarande | File permissions looked ok, so odd ... tried writing a test file and yup, "read-only file system", as are all the other fs on this device |
| 16:13.06 | Amarande | syslog shows a bunch of bizarre ATA error messages that eventually stopped altogether (probably because syslogd stopped being able to write to the drive) a little after 2 this morning |
| 16:13.28 | Amarande | & smartctl -x says I have a 600 petabyte hard drive and errors on any attempt to retrieve any more info than that basically |
| 16:14.06 | Amarande | Files in the OS memory cache still work normally, anything where it has to go to the disk gives an I/O error |
| 16:15.52 | Rythal | scares me, I don't backup :/ and i've been running 8 2TB green drives 24/7 for 5 years now... they are due to crash :( |
| 16:16.35 | Amarande | Crap, now Chrome won't launch |
| 16:16.59 | Amarande | yeah, that's way more than 10932 hours, my drive was only about four years old (and it wasn't even a Green at that, it was a Blue) |
| 16:19.12 | Rythal | 21976 power-on hours.. just checked smartctl |
| 16:20.50 | Amarande | and they're Green drives, you say |
| 16:20.54 | Amarande | yeah, you probably want to back that stuff up |
| 16:21.05 | Rythal | strange it's so little.. I bought the system as a media server in 2010 and it's only been off during extended power failures |
| 16:21.14 | Rythal | but that's only 3 years of uptime |
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| 16:40.51 | VIad | funny how blizz rebalanced warrior to not have the patron deck, but now I just see warriors playing for fatigue games and tons of armor. how is that any more fun? |
| 16:41.12 | VIad | at least patron went quicker |
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| 17:10.23 | foxlit | That doesn't kill you in one turn, which gives you a chance to respond to it, which is more fun than "oh, he drew the patron combo, well played" |
| 17:11.28 | VIad | foxlit: the warrior just responded by keeping himself alive until fatigue so his enemy died :p basically ton of answer cards to clear the board |
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| 19:58.56 | Rythal | starts the chanting and sacrificing of random channel people to the overwatch gods |
| 20:01.16 | Constie | Not again! |
| 20:14.58 | pompy | http://news.yahoo.com/450-illegal-pork-tamales-seized-los-angeles-airport-174316789.html lol |
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| 20:19.30 | Torhal | pompy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Approximately_64,695_Pounds_of_Shark_Fins |
| 20:23.36 | Rythal | mmm shark fin soup |
| 20:25.29 | pompy | mmm |
| 20:27.40 | Rythal | The tamales were destroyed under CBP supervision... AKA they brought in many beers and feasted. |
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| 21:27.52 | Gnarfoz | ~framexml |
| 21:27.52 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml . |
| 21:38.30 | kd3 | whee, playoverwatch beta access |
| 21:38.42 | nevcairiel | well, weekend access |
| 21:38.49 | kd3 | too bad I can't wake my desktop at home remotely to get the download started |
| 21:40.14 | Gnarfoz | well, it's in maintenance for about 19 more hours |
| 21:40.27 | Gnarfoz | so you'll have plenty of time to download, install and stare at the screen |
| 21:40.34 | Gnarfoz | however, legion beta might be going live at the very same time xD |
| 21:40.57 | Gnarfoz | certainly sounds like they just pushed it to the CDN (what else could they be talking about) |
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| 21:45.47 | Rythal | fries kd3's desktop before he can wake it. |
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| 21:52.39 | Rythal | "We're adding more engaging damage-dealing rotations for all healers in Legion." ooo so many leveling as a tree will be possible. |
| 21:52.58 | nevcairiel | i hope so |
| 21:53.28 | nevcairiel | as well as soloing on max level to some degree |
| 21:53.29 | Constie | I think there was a quote specifically saying they intend for you to be able to solo as a healer. |
| 21:53.45 | nevcairiel | so we can actually farm our own artifact power without having to respec and hope that loot spec carries the power over |
| 21:54.04 | nevcairiel | Constie: well sure, i can solo today as a healer, it just takes twice as long, so its not very attractive |
| 21:54.12 | nevcairiel | so we'll have to see about tuning |
| 21:57.47 | Constie | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/5263-Legion-Class-and-Systems-Community-Amphitheater-Discussion |
| 21:57.52 | Constie | "when you are playing solo you should be able to do substantial damage" |
| 21:58.21 | Semlar | when are they adding a healing spec for hunters |
| 21:58.33 | Constie | RIGHT DA HELL NOW |
| 21:58.49 | Semlar | i don't think it's fair that healers can dps when i still can't heal |
| 21:58.57 | Constie | I mean, you can heal your pet. |
| 21:59.03 | Rythal | the same time shamans get tank spec back |
| 22:00.08 | foxlit | wts Cleric Stance, then? |
| 22:02.00 | kullervo | remember when hunters had SP sets for mend pet? |
| 22:02.11 | kullervo | so they could have their pet solo shit for them? |
| 22:02.58 | Rythal | >.< that's going to far back, to when no matter what dropped hunters "needed" it .. causing such a horrible rep. |
| 22:04.35 | Semlar | what do you mean, i still need everything that drops |
| 22:05.28 | Constie | Same. |
| 22:06.09 | foxlit | that's amusing, considering there are no actual need rolls. |
| 22:06.11 | Constie | I got in the Overwatch weekend club, too. Hopefully I'll have time to play at some point before it's over. |
| 22:06.30 | Rythal | burns Constie's computer too |
| 22:06.38 | Constie | Not again! |
| 22:07.07 | Torhal | chains Rythal to Carbonite. |
| 22:07.09 | Torhal | >.> |
| 22:07.18 | Rythal | That's just mean :x |
| 22:10.35 | foxlit | NO ANYTHING TILL CARBONITE IS DONE. |
| 22:10.58 | Rythal | psh that's never happening... I thought it would of died by now. |
| 22:11.08 | Semlar | add support for this http://gfycat.com/FaithfulBothCleanerwrasse |
| 22:11.28 | Rythal | Trust me.. when I first saw that, I wanted it >.> |
| 22:11.33 | Semlar | :p |
| 22:11.39 | Constie | Good character name. |
| 22:12.03 | Gnarfoz | bad character. |
| 22:12.05 | Semlar | :( |
| 22:12.09 | Constie | I managed to get Unknown on one server while that thing was going on. |
| 22:12.32 | Constie | Which is probably the most skillful thing I've ever done in WoW. |
| 22:12.42 | airtonix_ | skill in wow? |
| 22:12.53 | airtonix_ | T_T |
| 22:12.54 | Semlar | sadly @mouseover still prioritizes your actual mouseover target |
| 22:13.38 | Semlar | i was hoping it would break everyone's macros |
| 22:13.42 | nevcairiel | what was it otherwise supposed to do |
| 22:13.45 | Constie | RIP. |
| 22:13.47 | Semlar | target me |
| 22:14.28 | foxlit | why would anyone group with your level 1 undead? :P |
| 22:14.45 | Torhal | Rythal: So I can tell people who keep complaining "THIS DOESN'T WORK WITH CARBONITE!!!" that Carbonite is dead, instead of "I don't use Carbonite, so good luck!"? :D |
| 22:15.33 | Rythal | laughs, what are they complaining doesn't work with it? npcscan still? |
| 22:15.44 | Torhal | Yeah, and Archy. |
| 22:16.01 | Rythal | hrmm archy should |
| 22:16.10 | nevcairiel | people stopped complaining that HereBeDragons makes carbonite blow up, so the fixes for that seemed to have worked |
| 22:16.17 | Torhal | Rythal: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/archy#c2016 |
| 22:16.44 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Oh, then that comment may be invalid since that was done a month ago. |
| 22:16.56 | nevcairiel | it was way befoer that |
| 22:17.02 | Torhal | Dunno then. |
| 22:17.10 | nevcairiel | and it was actually carbonite being bad and breaking ingame apis by hooking |
| 22:17.14 | nevcairiel | but Rythal fixed that |
| 22:18.00 | nevcairiel | Torhal: but i made no effort whatsoever for pins to show up on complete map replacements libe carbonite |
| 22:18.00 | Rythal | the only issue I had with archy that I knew of was the same as what was wrong with the other's... astrolab |
| 22:18.02 | nevcairiel | so .. |
| 22:18.27 | nevcairiel | shouldnt use astrolabe anymore now |
| 22:18.29 | Torhal | So that user likely was commenting on an old version |
| 22:18.38 | Torhal | I switched to HBD in August. |
| 22:18.44 | airtonix_ | Torhal, lolcarbonul |
| 22:18.53 | nevcairiel | i still think it just wouldnt draw pins on any carbonite maps |
| 22:18.56 | nevcairiel | which could be considered not working |
| 22:19.49 | airtonix_ | i remember looking at the source... spaghetti code of carbonite... fun times. |
| 22:20.48 | Rythal | that's a not working on my side, as I disabled the hooks of trying to bring anything drawn on the world map and instead went for creating ways for people to work with the carb map. |
| 22:21.57 | Torhal | Yeah, and I don't use Carbonite so I'm not going to add support for it and then have to reinstall it and test every time something isn't working. |
| 22:22.15 | Torhal | I have a hard enough time these days finding time to do stuff as is. |
| 22:22.54 | Rythal | it's just people being lazy... it's not hard to press alt-M and see the original world map instead of the carbonite map |
| 22:23.07 | Rythal | if there's really something you needed to know |
| 22:24.24 | Rythal | but some day I might try and do it again... npcscan worked fine and overlayed onto the carbonite map fine, but then petbattles didn't and I just didn't feel like trying to figure out the difference between how the two were drawing onto the world map so I just removed it all :P |
| 22:24.41 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 22:25.37 | Semlar | how do you propose a map replacement support addons that place things on the world map |
| 22:26.40 | nevcairiel | obviously his answer is "don't" |
| 22:27.57 | Rythal | be a better programmer then I is the answer :P |
| 22:28.03 | Rythal | which everyone is >.> |
| 22:28.23 | Semlar | the only solution i came up with involved scraping up everything that tried to position itself relative to the world map |
| 22:28.34 | Semlar | which i thought was terrible |
| 22:28.39 | Constie | Arguably if you've released something you're better than Semlar, at least. |
| 22:28.51 | Semlar | i've released things |
| 22:28.54 | Semlar | how dare you |
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| 22:30.04 | Rythal | Carbonite replaced itself as the worldmapframe_button parent to try and get everything drawn on the world map as a child, but the issue came with scaling, redrawing the frame to the same scale carbonites map was never worked right. |
| 22:30.18 | Semlar | right, you have to scale everything individually |
| 22:30.44 | Semlar | otherwise the icons are going to be tiny when you're zoomed out |
| 22:31.46 | Rythal | icon size wasn't too much a problem, it was the position. NPCScan's overlays scaled fine and stayed in the correct position even without the overlay addon... while petbattles would jump all over, so icons in stormwind ended up in the ocean at certain scales. |
| 22:32.49 | nevcairiel | it depends how they are anchored |
| 22:33.05 | nevcairiel | if you need to scale the offsets or not |
| 22:33.16 | nevcairiel | its a bit tricky |
| 22:33.41 | Semlar | if you're scaling the entire frame they should be staying in the same relative position on that frame |
| 22:33.50 | Semlar | maybe they're parented to something else |
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