| 00:00.13 | nevcairiel | they probably all knew this was a suicide mission |
| 00:00.43 | Mr_Rabies | typically their eventual goal is death, yeah |
| 00:01.10 | Mr_Rabies | would be nice to get one alive for questioning, if possible |
| 00:01.25 | mckenziemc | questions Mr_Rabies. |
| 00:01.30 | Simca | a huge section of the world is watching them on TV, they've achieved their goal |
| 00:01.40 | Simca | I do my part in ignoring it completely |
| 00:01.51 | kd3 | ugh, shit. now that I'm thinking about it, my boss (our ceo) is in paris right now |
| 00:03.47 | zenzelezz | this sense of disbelief reminds me of when Breivik was on his crazy "mission" four years ago. Hard to comprehend how it can feel right in their minds |
| 00:05.43 | Mr_Rabies | one of the longest-term things the human mind has been capable of since "the human mind" was a thing was justifying killing people |
| 00:14.46 | Stanzilla | and here's your classic US weapon lobby guy on the topic https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/665312487147896832 |
| 00:15.30 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: if i imagine 15 people with guns in a theater, I imagine those people killing everyone else |
| 00:15.42 | Stanzilla | pretty much |
| 00:16.03 | Stanzilla | AFP: "At least 100 dead in the Bataclan" /u/Nuage0 |
| 00:17.29 | mckenziemc | then you imagine wrong, just in a different way |
| 00:18.11 | nevcairiel | I don't think more guns are going to solve any problems |
| 00:18.31 | nevcairiel | but of course many muricans are set in their ways on that |
| 00:21.00 | mckenziemc | point is focus on the guns either way is moot, it depends on the people and concealed carry permits don't train people what to do in the few proper situations they might help |
| 00:21.45 | mckenziemc | and when they won't |
| 00:23.11 | Shirik | interestingly enough zenzelezz we already do a few of those things |
| 00:24.23 | Shirik | for example I wrote a compiler extension which forbids overriding functions without 'override', and our static analyzer forbids both variables initialized with dummy values and variables uninitialized at declaration time |
| 00:25.26 | nevcairiel | whats a dummy value |
| 00:25.59 | Mr_Rabies | shiny things, mostly |
| 00:26.06 | Shirik | like you can't just say `int a = 0` because I require you to initailize it, and overwrite it later |
| 00:26.35 | Shirik | if you are initializing the variable then that initialized value must be read at some point, otherwise it is illegal |
| 00:26.42 | nevcairiel | next you'll tell me you also quire variable declaration at the beginning of blocks ala C89 |
| 00:26.50 | Shirik | hell no |
| 00:26.56 | Shirik | that's actually inconsistent with the second piece |
| 00:26.57 | nevcairiel | making for values and code using them be in totally separate areas of the code |
| 00:27.19 | Shirik | given that I don't allow you to initialize the variable until some point at which you know the value is useful, it makes no sense to declare the variable until you intend to use it |
| 00:27.26 | Shirik | so declarations should be as late as possible |
| 00:27.49 | nevcairiel | many static analyzers will complain about write-only values already, so thats not hard to pull off I suppose |
| 00:31.43 | Stanzilla | Three suspected attackers killed in police raid on Paris concert hall: police |
| 00:33.43 | Mr_Rabies | no one ever appreciates my jokes :< |
| 00:33.48 | Mr_Rabies | charlatans, all of youse! |
| 00:34.21 | Shirik | ........... |
| 00:34.32 | Shirik | French Airport Grounds Flights After Computers Running Windows 3.1 Failed |
| 00:34.54 | mckenziemc | wat |
| 00:35.29 | Shirik | hahahaha |
| 00:35.30 | Shirik | "ADP defended themselves by saying that not all of their computers run Windows 3.1. Some of them run Windows XP." |
| 00:35.31 | nevcairiel | Shirik: its tested and proven |
| 00:35.56 | nevcairiel | Many ATMs still run OS/2 |
| 00:36.10 | nevcairiel | old hardware is all around us |
| 00:36.22 | Shirik | all I'm saying is I live in this industry and even I am surprised they can be that slow |
| 00:36.35 | Rythal | hmm.. taxi's in france just turned off fare counters and giving all rides free tonight... wonder if uber will follow suit |
| 00:36.56 | Shirik | the problem is Uber can't really do that |
| 00:37.37 | Shirik | the closest thing they could do is something like "we won't charge the person but we'll give the driver the money" |
| 00:37.41 | mckenziemc | upgrades Shirik to Windows 10. |
| 00:38.13 | Rythal | My companies head office is in paris :| so it's been interesting few hours as everyone checks in |
| 00:38.13 | Shirik | uber giving rides for free is like saying microsoft agrees to give away all blizzard games for free |
| 00:38.44 | nevcairiel | uber could decide to simply pay the drivers anyway |
| 00:38.52 | nevcairiel | the cab companies likely still paid their drivers |
| 00:39.00 | nevcairiel | or maybe not, who knows |
| 00:39.15 | Rythal | not like they don't have the money to do it.. and with the riots and fights between uber and taxi it would bring a small good measure |
| 00:39.19 | Shirik | sure, but it's the cab company missing the revenue in this case, not the driver, if the fare machines are off |
| 00:39.32 | Shirik | with uber, if you disable the fare, then it's the uber driver missing the money |
| 00:39.39 | Shirik | it really doesn't affect the company at all (much) |
| 00:39.53 | mckenziemc | weasel-words Shirik. |
| 00:40.01 | Shirik | well obviously uber makes revenue |
| 00:40.11 | Shirik | but a significant portion of the fare goes straight to the driver in uber's case |
| 00:40.35 | nevcairiel | but it goes through uber, so they could decide to simply pay the driver and not charge the passenger |
| 00:40.46 | Rythal | they could declare they are setting fares to 0, and people who don't want to participate can just sign out of the uber program. |
| 00:41.03 | Shirik | Rythal: and that is literally like Microsoft saying "we're giving away applications for free" |
| 00:41.14 | Shirik | they can't actually do that without support from the companies making those applications |
| 00:41.35 | Shirik | it would be like me saying if I'm elected I'll give everyone 5 million dollars |
| 00:41.40 | Shirik | I can say that because I know I won't get elected |
| 00:41.48 | Rythal | and the people who don't support it, don't need to be drivers while it's happening... just like the ones who want nothing to do and ignore surge pricing calls to action |
| 00:41.51 | nevcairiel | <Shirik> they can't actually do that without support from the companies making those applications <-- sure they can, just pay for the licenses |
| 00:42.08 | Shirik | nevcairiel: you're proposing suggestions I made as my very second line so... |
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| 00:42.15 | Shirik | I don't know why you're reiterating it |
| 00:42.26 | Shirik | Rythal: you're totally missing the point |
| 00:42.36 | Shirik | it's really not Uber's decision to make if you look at it like that |
| 00:42.47 | Shirik | because at the end of the day Uber isn't supporting anyone, it's the drivers that are |
| 00:42.50 | Shirik | Uber's just taking the credit |
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| 00:43.25 | Rythal | Not really, they have the technology to modify prices, they have no contracts with the drivers. The drivers who have no wish to give free rides, have no obligation to accept any fares that come up or even stay logged into the driver side of the software. |
| 00:43.41 | Rythal | they can go home and call it a night |
| 00:43.47 | Shirik | any positive benefit that comes out of this is entirely out of the generocity of the drivers |
| 00:43.50 | Shirik | not out of uber |
| 00:44.12 | Shirik | unless, as stated before, uber does the backend approach of still paying the drivers without charging |
| 00:47.18 | Amarande | of course once google finishes perfecting those self driving cars uber won't need drivers |
| 00:48.04 | Rythal | unless uber beats them to it :) |
| 00:48.37 | mckenziemc | reprograms Amarande's car to drive off a cliff. |
| 00:54.53 | Rythal | At least the self-driving cars can be pulled over, but no tickets since no one is driving ... http://www.ctvnews.ca/autos/california-officer-pulls-over-google-self-driving-car-that-had-no-driver-1.2656878 |
| 00:55.58 | Stanzilla | Paris Dep Mayor tells CNN 118 dead in #Bataclan concert hall, City Hall offical tells Reut 40 dead in other locs. Total 158 dead. |
| 00:56.07 | Mr_Rabies | jeez |
| 00:56.39 | Rythal | sad to know earlier it was 100 hostages in the hall, then it was 100 dead... but at least the other 1400 people who were there for the concert got out :/ |
| 00:57.37 | Mr_Rabies | that's a pretty high number considering the localization and technology involved, yeesh |
| 00:57.48 | jleclanche | it's an insane number |
| 00:57.58 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 00:58.18 | jleclanche | 100 people in one place is not insignificant |
| 00:58.39 | jleclanche | the internet kind of desensitizes you to numbers with less than 5 digits |
| 00:59.48 | mckenziemc | the irony... |
| 01:00.26 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think anyone's arguing it's a small number, especially considering the fact that it was basically just small arms and some explosives over such a small area |
| 01:01.27 | nevcairiel | some reports say AKs |
| 01:02.10 | Rythal | yeah reports i've seen said AK's and it was during reloading the rest got out / escaped |
| 01:02.54 | Amarande | Rythal: the trouble is going to come later, police-wise |
| 01:03.08 | Amarande | towns tend to rely fairly heavily on the income from traffic tickets to avoid having to charge excessive taxes |
| 01:03.10 | Mr_Rabies | are you anywhere near paris jleclanche? not even sure if you're still in france tbh |
| 01:03.25 | jleclanche | im not, but my brother and sister are there |
| 01:03.27 | Amarande | once self-driving cars start to replace enough human operated cars ... well ... thing is self-driving cars *can't* break the traffic laws |
| 01:03.30 | jleclanche | i havent heard back from either |
| 01:03.33 | Mr_Rabies | yeesh |
| 01:05.44 | Mr_Rabies | hopefully once everything settles down a bit more they can get ahold of you, i'm sure the cell service is jammed to hell right now |
| 01:05.57 | Mr_Rabies | and/or phones in general |
| 01:06.46 | Stanzilla | jleclanche :( |
| 01:10.02 | Cairenn | hugs jleclanche |
| 01:10.43 | Cairenn | I'm sure they are fine ... *positive thinking* |
| 01:11.08 | jleclanche | statistically they are |
| 01:11.22 | jleclanche | but yeah can't help thinking about it |
| 01:11.51 | jleclanche | apparently there were some of my guildmates at the concert though |
| 01:11.56 | Cairenn | hugs jleclanche some more |
| 01:17.19 | Fisker | Fingers crossed that they're safe |
| 01:20.16 | Stanzilla | https://twitter.com/madeon/status/665334823486001152 |
| 02:31.18 | Rythal | hrmm.. 3 day blizzcon... I like the idea, but it also frightens me |
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| 03:03.15 | mckenziemc | the irony of idiots... |
| 03:04.43 | mckenziemc | lower BRD, we went past the grim guzzler, i was about 4 levels lower than the others in the group so i body pulled the group across the gap (forgot about that but with the level of the group it's actually something that should be intentionally done) |
| 03:04.48 | mckenziemc | one guy says "way to be a douche" |
| 03:05.42 | mckenziemc | then when i tell a later replacement to the group how to get to us, and just happen to say it after we kill fineous, that guy says "lol facepalm <my_char> can't fix stupid" |
| 03:08.03 | mckenziemc | and they disband as if that was necessary over requeing (though it looks like the tank and healer were from the same server so probably requeued, but it's still their stupidity showing) |
| 03:08.53 | mckenziemc | entertainment for the night *shrug* |
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| 04:03.44 | Cairenn | :( 150+ death count so far |
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| 04:06.06 | Neffi | Cairenn: oh dear. what's this? |
| 04:06.18 | Cairenn | The terrorist attacks in Paris |
| 04:06.23 | Neffi | :( |
| 04:06.26 | Cairenn | Yeah |
| 04:07.04 | kd3 | was able to get a hold of my boss, pissed that he got woken up by like 20 phone calls at 3 in the morning |
| 04:07.08 | Cairenn | 2 restaurants, a rock concert, a stadium are what is being reported as having been the targets |
| 04:07.09 | kd3 | >.> |
| 04:07.26 | Cairenn | kd3: well, obviously he's okay, at least :p |
| 04:07.34 | kd3 | yah |
| 04:13.47 | mckenziemc | not that opening the box 20 times was necessary to see if it was still alive... |
| 04:14.11 | kd3 | eh, I didn't even call. most of them were from his wife, most likely |
| 04:14.21 | Cairenn | no doubt |
| 04:16.27 | mckenziemc | there was supposed to be a (schrodinger's) cat somewhere in that sentence |
| 04:19.00 | mckenziemc | i guess it ceased to exist :( |
| 04:30.21 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 04:30.29 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 04:30.47 | Fisker | blushes |
| 04:31.51 | mckenziemc | applies rogue rouge to Fisker. |
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| 05:14.16 | Shirik | "A police officer pulled over a Google self-driving car yesterday because it was going only 24 miles per hour in a 35 mph zone. But the car had no driver, so he could not issue a ticket. " |
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| 05:17.06 | Semlar | how did he pull it over |
| 05:18.59 | mckenziemc | i imagine they'd have some programmed response to emergency / police vehicle lights and sirens |
| 05:20.54 | Mr_Rabies | gonna add that to my list of ways to screw with self-driving cars :v |
| 05:24.21 | mckenziemc | imitating an emergency vehicle? |
| 05:28.54 | Torhal | Semlar: They're not completely autonomous; there needs to be a human in case intervention is required. |
| 05:29.06 | Torhal | Kinda like Neffi. |
| 05:29.09 | Semlar | then how come he couldn't give them a ticket |
| 05:29.29 | Torhal | Because by law, going 24 in a 35 with the vehicle's classification was perfectly legal. |
| 05:29.44 | Semlar | then why did they pull it over |
| 05:29.55 | Torhal | Because it was impeding the flow of traffic. :D |
| 05:30.00 | Semlar | :| |
| 05:31.37 | Cairenn | Dunno about in the US, but here in Canada it's 10% of the posted speed limit, for standard vehicles. |
| 05:32.28 | Semlar | in the US the speed limit is 10 mph over whatever is posted |
| 05:32.35 | Cairenn | I was talking under |
| 05:32.54 | Semlar | me too |
| 05:33.00 | Torhal | Semlar: My stepfather told me he had a police officer tell him "If it's eight, you're great. If it's nine, you're mine." |
| 05:33.25 | Cairenn | ... Semlar, not what you said :p |
| 05:33.43 | Semlar | no no you can't go less than 10 miles over the speed limit |
| 05:33.55 | Torhal | WAT |
| 05:33.59 | Torhal | Do you even English? |
| 05:34.02 | Cairenn | smacks her forehead |
| 05:34.27 | Semlar | have you ever seen speed |
| 05:34.40 | mckenziemc | smacks Semlar for Cairenn. |
| 05:37.20 | ccox | smacks mckenziemc Semlar and Cairenn then runs around making nyuk, nyuk, nyuk sounds⦠|
| 05:37.28 | Cairenn | ! |
| 05:37.30 | Cairenn | >< |
| 05:37.56 | Cairenn | pokes ccox |
| 05:39.19 | Torhal | plays Yakety Sax while Cairenn chases ccox. |
| 05:39.30 | mckenziemc | speeds over ccox and then Torhal. |
| 05:43.11 | Cairenn | pokes Torhal too |
| 05:43.17 | Torhal | o.O |
| 05:44.06 | Cairenn | Just on principle. |
| 05:44.35 | Torhal | Oh, that's fine then. |
| 05:44.41 | Cairenn | nods |
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| 05:44.45 | Cairenn | Figured it would be ;) |
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| 14:20.57 | foxlit | those sc2 co-op achievements are a little optimistic about the missions' replay value. |
| 14:44.10 | Fisker- | hey foxlit |
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| 14:44.10 | Fisker- | y |
| 14:44.19 | Fisker- | never irc and fallout 4 |
| 14:44.39 | BlackDove | thats how kids get born |
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| 14:57.39 | zenzelezz | I just suck at getting started at things. RPGs: spend minimum one hour at character creation. Projects: spend hours looking for a name |
| 15:00.07 | Seerah | zenzelezz: I always have to find the right font |
| 15:02.06 | Fisker | hey Seerah |
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| 15:02.19 | Seerah | h |
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| 15:04.18 | Fisker | :) |
| 15:10.03 | zenzelezz | Seerah: :) |
| 15:13.37 | zenzelezz | "Pure maths: 'virtual int oper+(int, int)=0;' Applied maths: 'complex oper+(complex, complex);' Misapplied maths: 'string oper+(string, string);'" |
| 15:31.16 | zenzelezz | I still find it awesome that a class called "bureaucrat" has nukes with names like "Performance Review", "Stinging Reminder", "Disciplinary Action", "Workplace Depression", "Pink Slip" and "Mass Layoffs" (last one being AoE); roots like "Enforce Rest Break", "Captivating Speech", "Fear of Attention"; debuffs like "Let's Make a Committee", "That is not on the Agenda", "Who writes the minutes?"... and |
| 15:31.17 | zenzelezz | so on |
| 15:31.29 | zenzelezz | Anarchy Online, why can't more MMOs have your sense of humor |
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| 15:58.34 | BlackDove | for ($i=1,$i<=3,$i++) echo "Ho "; $Santa = new Coming(Town); |
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| 16:04.45 | karl_w_w | woooo |
| 16:05.05 | karl_w_w | australia: 30 seconds of rain = no internet for 4 hours |
| 16:05.28 | zenzelezz | heh |
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| 17:38.10 | Mr_Rabies | yeesh the dungeon queue for 90-99 is pretty rough |
| 17:39.40 | mckenziemc | they don't give much experience anyway |
| 17:54.25 | Mr_Rabies | not true at all anymore :O |
| 17:54.29 | Mr_Rabies | or well |
| 17:54.35 | Mr_Rabies | i take that back |
| 17:54.44 | Mr_Rabies | i haven't looked enough into the 90-99 stuff |
| 17:54.51 | Mr_Rabies | but the 1-90 dungeons give a ton now |
| 17:55.12 | mckenziemc | i mean the 90-99 dungeons specifically :) |
| 17:55.23 | nevcairiel | current-expansion dungeons usually dont |
| 17:55.26 | nevcairiel | they want you to quest |
| 17:55.31 | nevcairiel | it changes when the next xpac arrives |
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| 18:19.16 | Mr_Rabies | blehh |
| 18:19.19 | Mr_Rabies | i hate questing :< |
| 18:19.22 | Mr_Rabies | i used to love it |
| 18:19.27 | Mr_Rabies | but one time through is enough for me now |
| 18:19.35 | Mr_Rabies | MoP killed the idea of fun questing to me |
| 18:44.32 | mckenziemc | alts killed the idea of fun questing for me >.> |
| 18:47.54 | Rythal | Up to Cata I enjoyed the questing.. even the 4th, 5th time through... MoP, I spread the alt leveling enough it wasn't too bad.. didn't start the quests until the last alt was fully raid geared... WoD so far has just been a nightmare, done it twice and the thought of 3 more times makes me cringe... not just the questing, but the must do LFR runs every week for months and months on end for the |
| 18:47.55 | Rythal | dang ring |
| 18:48.13 | Mr_Rabies | cata questing made questing less fun the second time through generally |
| 18:48.39 | Mr_Rabies | before, the first time through wasn't generally as fun but the second time through there was very much a sense of "well i already did everything there is to do here" |
| 18:48.49 | Mr_Rabies | (in the almost exact same order) |
| 18:49.04 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 18:49.12 | mckenziemc | re |
| 18:49.15 | Mr_Rabies | i screwed that up |
| 18:49.24 | Rythal | I dunno, I enjoyed the quests in Cata... it didn't feel like questing.. plus you had options of which zone to quest in. |
| 18:49.53 | Mr_Rabies | before, the first time through wasn't generally as fun but the second time through was about 95% of that since it kinda wasn't too memorable or linear |
| 18:50.03 | Mr_Rabies | but as of cata, the first time through was insanely fun |
| 18:50.07 | Mr_Rabies | and the second time through there was very much a sense of "well i already did everything there is to do here" |
| 18:50.14 | Mr_Rabies | there we go, now my brain is back on track |
| 18:50.52 | Mr_Rabies | cata questing is so linear that redoing a zone feels like a chore |
| 18:51.08 | Mr_Rabies | it feels like you gotta eat your veggies before you enjoy desert |
| 18:51.13 | Mr_Rabies | dessert* ffff |
| 18:51.17 | Mr_Rabies | i'm slowly unlearning how to spell |
| 18:51.18 | mckenziemc | but you should o.o |
| 18:51.32 | Rythal | the zones themselves were linear sure, but you had a choice of which zones you wanted to be in. |
| 18:51.39 | Mr_Rabies | somewhat |
| 18:52.00 | mckenziemc | level multiple alts, zone choice benefit gone |
| 18:52.13 | Mr_Rabies | if you feel like trekking outside of the fast travel paths the game sets you up on after you finish a zone |
| 18:53.03 | Rythal | guess that's the advantage of bad memory, going back 4 months later and doing it again it seemed fun :P |
| 18:53.22 | Mr_Rabies | it wasn't so bad when you learned flight paths as you leveled automatically |
| 18:53.26 | Mr_Rabies | but now that that's gone it's a mess |
| 18:53.33 | Rythal | and maybe thats why I hate WoD so much.. the need for the garrison meant doing the first zone 5 times over in succession |
| 18:53.56 | Mr_Rabies | eh, you can do the stuff to push the garrison to level 2 in about two hours now |
| 18:53.58 | Mr_Rabies | it's not too bad |
| 18:54.04 | Mr_Rabies | to level 1 takes maybe 45 mins |
| 18:54.22 | Mr_Rabies | you just gotta know which quests actually count towards starting the garrison, etc |
| 18:55.04 | Mr_Rabies | my goal on an alt is to get to the uh, showdown with the spooky void guy done asap |
| 18:55.05 | Rythal | now i'm finally doing the ring, and realizing it's forced lfr for 9 weeks just to finish part 2 :| it makes me cry |
| 18:55.25 | nevcairiel | there is so many catchup mechanics now, you can do it much faster |
| 18:55.44 | Mr_Rabies | that gets you the crafting prof item(s), level 2 garrison, and usually level 92 |
| 18:56.03 | mckenziemc | i just got level 2 garrison without getting to that quest :< |
| 18:56.17 | nevcairiel | there is also a level limit when it just unlocks |
| 18:56.27 | mckenziemc | my char's only 93 |
| 18:56.30 | Mr_Rabies | think that's 93 |
| 18:56.35 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 18:56.55 | mckenziemc | don't remember if that's consistent with my past experiences on other characters |
| 18:57.09 | Mr_Rabies | it's been a while since i've done it since i fired most of my alts through there pretty fast once i was basically done with the early grind on my main |
| 18:57.23 | nevcairiel | if you're just going after the garrison, targeting that particular quest chain is pretty fast |
| 18:58.01 | Rythal | I had planned on ditching my alts, but now with all the class changes coming, I won't know which I actually wanna play so I need all my options ready |
| 18:59.25 | Mr_Rabies | i need to get mine to 100 but blehhhh |
| 18:59.44 | mckenziemc | i plan on not getting caught up in the normal gameplay and focusing instead on coding / systems analysis with addons |
| 18:59.47 | mckenziemc | wish me luck :D |
| 18:59.53 | Mr_Rabies | i got one to 100 and all the rest are like, 92-95 |
| 19:00.04 | Rythal | wouldn't be so bad if I had flying.. but the RNG gods have not yet let me get everything needed |
| 19:00.09 | Mr_Rabies | well, my main and one alt to 100 |
| 19:00.31 | Mr_Rabies | see, i had good rng with the ring stuff at the shipyard, and then basically jack shit since |
| 19:00.32 | Rythal | I have 2 alts at 100.. my main is still 94 :| lol |
| 19:00.59 | Mr_Rabies | i've never seen any decent rewards from the shipyard except i got the boa trinket (that sucks) twice |
| 19:01.44 | Rythal | I had decent RNG in that almost every ship i've made was blue or purple, but I haven't done any of tanaan to unlock the counters |
| 19:03.03 | Mr_Rabies | once you have a level 3 shipyard, i think you're guaranteed a blue everytime now and have a very increased chance at a purple |
| 19:03.37 | Rythal | don't even have level 2 yet lol since I can't counter stuff to finish 15 missions |
| 19:03.46 | Mr_Rabies | the counters just drop from specific mobs in tanaan and elsewhere, it's pretty easy to get them all |
| 19:05.17 | mckenziemc | sinks all of Mr_Rabies' ships. |
| 19:05.40 | Mr_Rabies | not like i'm really using them anyway |
| 19:05.46 | Mr_Rabies | i have like, 500 baleful items and nothing else |
| 19:06.07 | Mr_Rabies | i've got so much oil i'm afraid the us army is gonna invade my garrison at this point |
| 19:06.18 | Rythal | they need to make druid idiot proof.. it's my favorite class, and the one I wanna main, but I suck megahard with it |
| 19:06.39 | Mr_Rabies | they reduced the difficulty/annoyance of feral a lot for WoD |
| 19:06.45 | Mr_Rabies | balance is a mess, though |
| 19:06.59 | Mr_Rabies | guardian has been about 5 buttons since cata, and i don't know anything about resto |
| 19:07.50 | Mr_Rabies | last time i was resto i was forced to be resto to heal on majordomo |
| 19:08.04 | mckenziemc | heals Mr_Rabies' wounds. |
| 19:08.08 | Rythal | I'm just not good with melee, after 3 expansions maining hunter i'm not use to damage ranges and staying out of attacks or just outside mobs attack range but inside your attack range |
| 19:08.23 | Mr_Rabies | it's a skill set |
| 19:08.42 | Mr_Rabies | you'll learn it with experience |
| 19:08.59 | Mr_Rabies | thankfully, that stuff isn't exclusive to raids anymore |
| 19:09.26 | Mr_Rabies | they also made many of the fights less hellish on melee generally with WoD |
| 19:09.32 | Rythal | I tried, I usually either get a healer that decides if I can't stay outta shit they won't heal me, or an entire group that just kicks me :P |
| 19:09.50 | Mr_Rabies | they actually have the range doing mechanics now instead of being able to mostly just stand around while melee does mechanics |
| 19:10.06 | Mr_Rabies | so the melee does a bit less mechanics, and ranged do way more than they used to |
| 19:10.40 | Mr_Rabies | of course for hunters you're basically a melee class with 40 yard arms |
| 19:11.05 | mckenziemc | possibly less in Legion :D |
| 19:12.12 | Mr_Rabies | feral's actually one of the easiest to do mechanics with since it's so damned agile |
| 19:12.29 | Mr_Rabies | i'm running around at something like 157% run speed :v |
| 19:12.56 | Rythal | I get too focus'd on the rotation... i'm one of those tunnel vision baddies |
| 19:14.00 | Mr_Rabies | my favorite thing for combo point stuff is http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/hear-kitty |
| 19:14.25 | Mr_Rabies | i hear tones for my combo points instead of having to look at the ui, so i can focus my vision on other stuff |
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| 20:22.06 | mckenziemc | damnarande :( |
| 20:40.51 | jnwhiteh | ~UGT |
| 20:40.51 | purl | from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 20:43.11 | mckenziemc | go to bed jnwhiteh |
| 20:43.18 | jnwhiteh | Why would I do that? |
| 20:44.36 | haste | too early! |
| 20:45.39 | mckenziemc | too much haste |
| 20:45.52 | haste | you can never have too much haste |
| 20:46.20 | mckenziemc | then tell him to go to bed |
| 20:47.00 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 20:47.01 | Fisker | e |
| 20:47.01 | Fisker | y |
| 20:47.03 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 20:47.10 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 20:47.14 | Fisker | hey |
| 20:47.18 | haste | hey |
| 20:47.44 | Fisker | hey |
| 20:47.51 | Fisker | you wanna fight about it? |
| 20:48.03 | haste | hey |
| 20:48.10 | haste | nah, think I'll stand this one out |
| 20:48.14 | Fisker | good |
| 20:48.18 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: hihi |
| 20:48.20 | jnwhiteh | haste: <3 |
| 20:48.23 | Fisker | wow |
| 20:48.24 | Fisker | ok |
| 20:48.27 | Fisker | cries |
| 20:48.29 | haste | still no nexus 6p in Norway :( |
| 20:48.32 | Torhal | IHOPey Fisker. |
| 20:48.34 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 20:48.37 | nevcairiel | noway in norway |
| 20:48.39 | Fisker | guess what I have |
| 20:48.45 | haste | 5x |
| 20:49.00 | nevcairiel | the 6p doesnt sound that attractive really |
| 20:49.15 | haste | better than old 6 |
| 20:49.26 | nevcairiel | that one wasnt that good either =p |
| 20:49.35 | haste | better than old 5 |
| 20:49.38 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 20:49.50 | nevcairiel | all the recent nexus phones have been rather underwhelming |
| 20:50.40 | Fisker | 6p haste |
| 20:50.43 | haste | problem is that all other phones are underwhelming as well |
| 20:50.46 | Fisker | The Nexus 6 was great? |
| 20:50.47 | Fisker | jesus |
| 20:50.51 | haste | I have a LG G4 and I'd rather user n6 |
| 20:51.13 | nevcairiel | I got a SGS6, pretty happy with that |
| 20:51.17 | mckenziemc | downgrades Fisker to a Nexus 5 and watches him cry. |
| 20:51.58 | Fisker | ew nevcairiel |
| 20:53.42 | Rythal | I have the S5 :( the locked bootloader makes me cry |
| 20:54.05 | mckenziemc | polymorphs Fisker into a ewe. |
| 20:58.39 | Torhal | beats mckenziemc about the head with the word "an" |
| 21:00.15 | mckenziemc | beats Torhal about the head with the proper rules for using "an." |
| 21:00.45 | Torhal | vivisects mckenziemc with all of Fisker's care. |
| 21:01.02 | mckenziemc | declares Torhal an hero. |
| 21:01.06 | Rythal | so violantr |
| 21:04.39 | Torhal | Besides, mckenziemc - who do you think you're fooling? English has no rules. |
| 21:04.54 | mckenziemc | that's engrish |
| 21:05.09 | mckenziemc | go back to writing assembly manuals! |
| 21:05.32 | Torhal | Hand me a draught to help me combat this draft. |
| 21:05.36 | Torhal | >.> |
| 21:05.45 | mckenziemc | <.< |
| 21:13.01 | mckenziemc | recovers from his stupor and stabs Torhal. |
| 21:21.43 | Torhal | It wasn't very effective, mckenziemc; you need actual hands. |
| 21:22.06 | mckenziemc | virtually stabs Torhal. |
| 21:22.49 | Torhal | figuratively and theoretically destroys mckenziemc by summoning his bestest buddy. |
| 21:23.24 | mckenziemc | i already took care of Semlar. |
| 21:23.30 | Torhal | This is hypothetical, so you know. |
| 21:23.41 | Torhal | Didn't want you releasing Neffi into the wild or anything. |
| 21:23.46 | Neffi | literals vaporizes Torhal and mckenziemc |
| 21:23.53 | Neffi | err |
| 21:24.03 | Torhal | Typing is hard. |
| 21:24.06 | Neffi | ye |
| 21:24.10 | Torhal | throws math in Neffi's face. |
| 21:24.11 | Neffi | i'm tired |
| 21:24.17 | Neffi | no, not m,ath! |
| 21:24.21 | mckenziemc | declares Neffi's literals mutable. |
| 21:24.22 | Neffi | i cant even engluish |
| 21:24.24 | Amarande | the nexus 6 looked nice, but the price jump from the nexus 5 is insane |
| 21:24.36 | Neffi | i hear the build quality is atrocious on it |
| 21:24.57 | Amarande | like google have you forgotten that one of the things android folks tend to go for, one of the things that tends to make them android folks in the first place, is that they don't want to spend an arm and a leg? |
| 21:25.06 | Amarande | if they wanted to spend an arm and a leg, that's what apple devices are for :) |
| 21:25.29 | Neffi | locks Torhal in an echo chamber with Amarande |
| 21:26.43 | mckenziemc | nexus phones aren't exactly cheap |
| 21:28.16 | nevcairiel | they used to be |
| 21:28.18 | nevcairiel | in comparison anyway |
| 21:28.40 | Neffi | everything's cheap in comparison to something |
| 21:28.52 | Neffi | takes one of Torhal's cats and leaves behind a copper piece |
| 21:29.07 | mckenziemc | reminds Neffi copper's worth a lot now |
| 21:32.07 | Neffi | takes back the copper piece and leaves some pocket lint instead |
| 21:53.23 | Torhal | sneaks in under the cover of night and strips the copper plumbing from Neffi's house. |
| 21:53.43 | Neffi | :O |
| 21:53.48 | Neffi | I need that! |
| 21:54.14 | mckenziemc | replaces Torhal's plumbing with aluminum. |
| 21:59.48 | Amarande | mckenziemc: they went from something like $350 to $600ish IIRC |
| 21:59.53 | Amarande | that's a pretty massive jump |
| 22:00.11 | Amarande | and not a very competitive one either, especially given what's been coming out of Huawei lately |
| 22:01.10 | mckenziemc | good ol' Amarande, always missing the point right in front of him. |
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| 23:29.35 | Arrowmaster | my phone decided to go into a boot loop for a little while, maybe its time for a new one |
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| 23:39.00 | Amarande | my phone's been acting up lately too |
| 23:39.11 | Amarande | it keeps freezing for overlong periods of time, and the clock stops for periods of time too |
| 23:39.35 | Amarande | like I'll be napping, go to check the phone quick to see if I need to get up and get ready for work, think I saw the time ... then the time jumps forward like 4 or 5 minutes |
| 23:39.42 | Amarande | I think I need a factory reset |
| 23:42.41 | VIad | all I ask for is consistency, blizzard http://ss.bool.no/capture_1447544556.png |
| 23:43.20 | nevcairiel | you want to l ose your hero power? =p |
| 23:44.22 | VIad | his hero power draws me a card, gives me a mana crystal :d |
| 23:44.27 | VIad | but it didn't work |
| 23:44.32 | VIad | because false advertising *:( |
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