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| 01:18.39 | kd3 | hm. no trips scheduled in the next week, but watch something come up just to spite me |
| 01:19.07 | kd3 | almost every time something's started in blizzard-land the past few years I've been a few hundred miles from my computer |
| 01:19.23 | Fisker | I miss Blizzcon kd3 |
| 01:19.50 | kd3 | so do I, but I don't miss the week of work I'm still trying to catch up on |
| 01:20.25 | Fisker | true |
| 01:20.44 | Amarande | I'd still like to make it to a Blizzcon some or other year |
| 01:21.24 | Amarande | thing is, if I'm going to be financially prepared for a con in the later months of the year, and want to go to the trouble of horrendously competitive registration lines, I'd pretty much always rather go to DragonCon heh |
| 01:26.15 | mckenziemc | suggests AmarandeCon. |
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| 01:51.22 | mckenziemc | http://cessna.txtav.com/en/single-engine/skyhawk "Max Range 640 nm" |
| 01:51.40 | mckenziemc | not even a micron :( |
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| 02:05.48 | Fisker | wants to sleep and hugs Cairenn |
| 02:08.00 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 02:09.11 | Fisker | doesn't fall asleep :( |
| 02:10.12 | mckenziemc | is relieved his suggestion didn't cause Cairenn to have a heart attack after all. |
| 02:10.21 | Cairenn | ? |
| 02:10.56 | mckenziemc | (5:26:19 PM) ***mckenziemc suggests AmarandeCon. |
| 02:11.15 | mckenziemc | you disconnected shortly after :P |
| 02:12.04 | mckenziemc | uh oh... |
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| 03:17.14 | Amarande | bleh, this has not been a good fall sale season for me on gog |
| 03:17.34 | Amarande | I've seen a few sales that I had an incidental interest in and were really cheap pass me by, and meanwhile none of the titles I've actually been most interested in have gone on sale :( |
| 03:19.43 | Seerah | as soon as you give up and buy, there'll be a sale |
| 03:19.52 | Seerah | law of the universe |
| 03:20.36 | Amarande | exactly, I'm sure :p |
| 03:26.44 | Fisker | hey Seerah |
| 03:34.03 | Seerah | hey, Fisker |
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| 03:36.36 | Fisker | fancy punctuation, Seerah. |
| 03:53.01 | mckenziemc | here Amarande, it's not on sale but you can buy a hydrargyrum-switch sensor: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E0F01LO/ref=s9_hps_bw_g147_i7 |
| 03:53.49 | Amarande | heh, for the moment I decided to bite and get the CAH holiday special |
| 03:54.01 | Amarande | I wonder if all those questions you get asked at the end mean anything |
| 03:57.32 | mckenziemc | treats Amarande with stibium. |
| 04:04.27 | Gethe | hugs Cairenn |
| 04:04.33 | Cairenn | hugs Gethe |
| 04:17.20 | Fisker | stares at Cairenn |
| 04:17.31 | Cairenn | gets creeped out |
| 04:19.20 | Fisker | cries and hugs Cairenn |
| 04:19.28 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 04:19.45 | Fisker | Yay |
| 04:23.46 | Cairenn | Gethe: missed you[r hat] at blizzcon this year |
| 04:24.03 | Amarande | did everyone get their eight sensible gifts for Hanukkah yet btw? :) |
| 04:24.40 | Gethe | Cairenn: i wish i could have been there :( |
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| 04:27.02 | Gethe | from what i saw on twitter a lot of the typical parties were a deal bigger this year |
| 04:27.14 | Cairenn | It was a good time |
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| 04:30.43 | Arrowmaster | yup |
| 04:31.05 | Cairenn | lol - what you can remember of it, Arrowmaster ;) |
| 04:31.48 | Arrowmaster | that was only one night |
| 04:31.54 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 04:32.10 | Fisker | I can remember all |
| 04:33.22 | Amarande | Legion is probably drawing more enthused interest than WoD did |
| 04:33.33 | Arrowmaster | but how many others can say theyve danced with Cairenn and Seerah |
| 04:33.41 | Cairenn | :) |
| 04:34.08 | Cairenn | Next time I have a chug-off with Seerah, I have to remember to have dinner first. ;) |
| 04:34.16 | Semlar | o.o |
| 04:34.18 | Seerah | I hadn't eaten either! |
| 04:34.27 | Arrowmaster | i cant remember if i did |
| 04:34.34 | Arrowmaster | probably not |
| 04:34.52 | Cairenn | I didn't say you had, just that I need to. ;) |
| 04:34.57 | Seerah | :p |
| 04:35.15 | Cairenn | Deciding to chug the next two as well is what did me in, though. |
| 04:35.24 | Arrowmaster | only two? |
| 04:35.36 | Cairenn | 4 total |
| 04:36.06 | Arrowmaster | i downed 3 in about 5 minutes then went back for another 3 |
| 04:36.11 | Seerah | which was probably equivalent to 6-7 |
| 04:36.22 | Cairenn | Seerah: true dat |
| 04:36.28 | Cairenn | I love the way she poured ;) |
| 04:36.49 | Cairenn | I think each was probably a double |
| 04:37.05 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: which is why we remember what happened and you don't |
| 04:37.06 | Amarande | ahhh, the drink flows freely at conventions :) |
| 04:37.30 | Amarande | of course I tend to remember what happened and that's despite the fact that my choice of drink is particularly potent |
| 04:37.38 | Arrowmaster | i dont like not knowing what i did or said |
| 04:37.46 | Amarande | (it's a blend of two different schnapps that comes to about 47% ABV) |
| 04:37.47 | kd3 | I'm sad... I didn't have a single AMF this year |
| 04:37.55 | Arrowmaster | neither did i! |
| 04:38.11 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: which is why I stopped when I did. I do -not- like being out of control and not being able to remember |
| 04:38.13 | Cairenn | at all |
| 04:38.19 | Cairenn | kd3: yeah, me either |
| 04:38.33 | Amarande | I'm not sure I can get to the point of really losing lucidity though ... I'll get queasy before that |
| 04:38.48 | Seerah | I was pissed at myself for drinking so much and giving myself a migraine |
| 04:38.53 | Amarande | since I still remember that damned fool drinking game I proposed back during Wrath LOL |
| 04:38.57 | Cairenn | hugs Seerah |
| 04:39.11 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: oh was i supposed to be expecting a friend request or were you just going to stalk? |
| 04:39.17 | Amarande | it was late night after raid, we decided to do "a quick maly" and I'm suggesting "every time you die, take a shot" |
| 04:39.35 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: no |
| 04:39.39 | Amarande | like, how hard could Malygos be, that was first tier content for Wrath and we were in mostly 10/12h ICC10 raid gear :) |
| 04:40.49 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: not in here, please and thank you |
| 04:41.39 | Amarande | *sigh* I miss having a good fun raid guild |
| 04:41.53 | Amarande | hard to find them anymore though, what with how they've gutted the social part of wow :( |
| 04:45.17 | Fisker | is confused, tired and scared |
| 04:45.21 | Arrowmaster | alright all, i need to get to bed soon |
| 04:45.24 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 04:45.31 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 04:45.40 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: sweet dreams |
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| 05:12.36 | Torhal | Hey Fisker |
| 05:12.38 | Torhal | IHOP? |
| 05:15.41 | Trela | o.o |
| 05:15.46 | Trela | ...Fisker is in town? |
| 05:21.32 | Cairenn | I don't think we need IHOP round 4 |
| 05:21.35 | Torhal | Trela: Nah, he was at BlizzCon. IHOP has a special meaning to him now. |
| 05:21.47 | Trela | Oh. |
| 05:27.17 | Cairenn | And lemon-threatened-water |
| 05:29.30 | Cairenn | It is funny how things become traditional though. After 10 years (8 BlizzCons), it isn't BlizzCon without Tony Roma ribs on Wednesday night, Author dinner Thursday night, IHOP at some point, and lots of booze & CAH. |
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| 05:36.42 | Torhal | Cairenn: I like how you grouped "lots of booze" in with CAH. |
| 05:36.49 | Cairenn | Well, yeah |
| 05:36.52 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:36.59 | Cairenn | Makes it so much better |
| 05:37.26 | Cairenn | Plus, well, lots of booze every night ;) |
| 05:38.22 | Torhal | I actually don't drink very often anymore, so I have no idea how I manage BlizzCon the way I do. |
| 05:38.27 | Torhal | Sheer determination, I guess. |
| 05:38.32 | Cairenn | Hehehe |
| 05:38.44 | Cairenn | I dunno, you had a few there Sat night |
| 05:38.46 | Torhal | Plus I'm afraid you'll come to my room and drag me by the ear. |
| 05:38.57 | Cairenn | I did not drag you by the ear |
| 05:39.05 | Torhal | Figuratively! |
| 05:39.24 | Torhal | >.> |
| 05:39.31 | Cairenn | Figuratively nothing, I did actually do that to someone once (different context though) |
| 05:39.48 | Torhal | Ouch. |
| 05:39.58 | Cairenn | He had it coming. |
| 05:41.02 | Cairenn | Guy is a bloody paramedic, had gotten drunk the night before and banged into a big garbage dumpster, cut his arm all up, and still hadn't cleaned it the next day. It got cleaned .... |
| 05:41.42 | Torhal | Uh, wow. |
| 05:42.10 | Cairenn | I was so mad at him, because, as I said, he's a paramedic, he knew better. |
| 05:42.26 | Torhal | Definitely, and could likely have done the job quickly. |
| 05:42.57 | Cairenn | So I grabbed him by the ear, dragged him up out of the chair he was in, over to my tent, drag out my first aid kit and cleaned it. Thoroughly. |
| 05:43.23 | Cairenn | (He was still hung over and not really with it yet) |
| 05:43.53 | Torhal | That would explain the apparent rampant stupidity of being an EMT and not taking care of it himself. |
| 05:44.19 | Torhal | "Screw the arm. I'm not going to wake up for anything." |
| 05:44.53 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 05:45.11 | Torhal | So who ended up reattaching the ear? |
| 05:45.16 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:45.47 | Cairenn | Pennsic - an even bigger party than BlizzCon |
| 05:46.01 | Torhal | Crazy |
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| 05:58.48 | ccox | Cairenn: yeah, with almost as much cosplay |
| 05:59.06 | Cairenn | Heh, you might say that |
| 05:59.54 | ccox | <â has many friends who still attend pennsic |
| 06:01.48 | Cairenn | I miss Pennsic |
| 06:10.07 | A-KO | I've got a lot of friends that go to Pennsic |
| 06:10.11 | A-KO | never went myself |
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| 07:40.33 | WrathTECH | So I need to replace a string in a variable, from "\" to "\\". Using: icon = gsub(icon, "\", "\\") works fine replacing letters, but when I put in the \ I get a Lua error: ")" expected near "\". |
| 07:43.02 | Semlar | probably because \ is escaping the quote |
| 07:43.27 | Semlar | try replacing \\ with \\\\ |
| 07:44.20 | nevcairiel | yeah you need to escape every \ |
| 07:44.24 | nevcairiel | so \ becomes \\ |
| 07:44.27 | nevcairiel | and \\ becomes \\\\ |
| 07:44.31 | Semlar | in retrospect that phrasing was ambiguous |
| 07:44.58 | Semlar | what i meant was gsub(icon, "\\", "\\\\") |
| 07:46.31 | WrathTECH | Perfect. Thank you very much, as always! |
| 07:50.04 | WrathTECH | One more simple issue. How the heck do you set a texture via a variable that has the texture path in it? i.e. playerClassIcon_TEX:SetTexture(icon) |
| 07:50.37 | WrathTECH | Where icon is a variable to Interface\\Icons\\Ability_Warrior_InnerRage |
| 08:14.22 | WrathTECH | http://pastebin.com/a5w85TgQ |
| 08:16.07 | Stanzilla | concat? |
| 08:16.52 | WrathTECH | That or if I move the SetTexture to the bottom where the frame is created, it just doesn't show anything |
| 08:16.59 | mckenziemc | wowuidev:gsub("Semlar", "007") |
| 08:18.15 | Semlar | lives and lets die |
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| 08:18.58 | mckenziemc | wrong 007 |
| 08:19.50 | Semlar | torhal's a double agent |
| 08:20.53 | mckenziemc | sends SIGKILL. |
| 08:22.07 | nevcairiel | WrathTECH: you dont need to escape the \ in texture path |
| 08:22.16 | nevcairiel | it just looks like they contain two slashes because its escaped |
| 08:22.40 | nevcairiel | but if you get it from an API function like GetSpecializationInfo, you dont need to do anything |
| 08:22.47 | WrathTECH | the texture path is printing correctly, Interface\\Icons..... etc |
| 08:23.02 | nevcairiel | thats not correct, though |
| 08:23.06 | nevcairiel | it should only contain one |
| 08:23.10 | nevcairiel | you know, like any normal path |
| 08:23.18 | WrathTECH | Yes, I am getting it from GetSpecializationInfo |
| 08:23.33 | Semlar | ..how |
| 08:25.19 | WrathTECH | with only on \, I am still getting an "attempt to index global" error |
| 08:25.40 | WrathTECH | *with only one |
| 08:26.22 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:26.56 | WrathTECH | that's why I was asking about gsub a little bit ago. But with or without, it's the same thing that happens |
| 08:27.26 | Semlar | but that wouldn't throw an error it would just give you a green texture |
| 08:27.48 | Semlar | your error is from something else |
| 08:27.58 | WrathTECH | I am not even getting a green texture. Can't hunt down if I have an error in the programming. |
| 08:28.11 | Semlar | so what global is it saying you're attempting to index |
| 08:28.34 | Semlar | the error should tell you exactly what the problem is |
| 08:28.39 | WrathTECH | attempt to index global 'playerClassIcon_TEX' (a nil value) |
| 08:28.45 | Semlar | okay that means that variable doesn't exist |
| 08:28.57 | nevcairiel | clearly playerClassIcon_TEX is a local variable, and you are trying to use it in an event handler declared before its created |
| 08:28.59 | WrathTECH | Hrmm |
| 08:30.03 | WrathTECH | Okay, moved the SetTexture out of the event, but I simply don't get anything now. Not even a green texture. |
| 08:30.47 | Semlar | well you should have just moved the event script to the very end of this thing you pasted |
| 08:31.12 | WrathTECH | I will, just trying to figure out why I don't even see a texture at all right now. |
| 08:31.47 | Semlar | i don't know what you changed |
| 08:33.52 | Semlar | also you don't need to make another frame for every texture and font string |
| 08:34.02 | Semlar | unless you just really want to |
| 08:34.20 | WrathTECH | Aight, moved the event handler to the bottom. I now get a green texture. But with double or single \ it still shows a green texture. |
| 08:34.22 | WrathTECH | http://pastebin.com/KRXUv8W7 |
| 08:34.46 | WrathTECH | I always wondered about that, Ill have to do some research and cut back on some of the frames, gets kinda bulky this way |
| 08:35.14 | Semlar | you should almost certainly not have to modify the texture path in any way |
| 08:35.40 | WrathTECH | Even not modifying the texture path still a green texture. |
| 08:35.59 | WrathTECH | Wait, it doesn't have " at the start and end of the fie path. |
| 08:36.24 | Semlar | it doesn't need it, it's a string |
| 08:36.30 | WrathTECH | Hmm |
| 08:36.41 | Semlar | well, it's a variable pointing to a string |
| 08:37.32 | WrathTECH | Dang it, why do I delete old projects that I don't complete. I've had something like this working once before several months ago -_- |
| 08:42.53 | WrathTECH | Got it working. Thanks |
| 08:42.59 | Torhal | replaces Semlar with "" |
| 08:43.25 | karl_w_w | $100 google play credit for $80 |
| 08:43.38 | karl_w_w | http://catalog.samsclub.com/blackfriday/app.php?RelId=6.5.7.3.2 |
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| 08:59.12 | Semlar | unquotes torhal |
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| 10:15.01 | Mr_Rabies | they really need to nerf the cost of a tier 3 garrison :< |
| 10:15.16 | Mr_Rabies | 5000g per char is just too much for how little they offer now |
| 10:15.54 | nevcairiel | when did what it offered ever change? =p |
| 10:15.59 | nevcairiel | 5000g is nothing these days though |
| 10:17.11 | Mr_Rabies | they really nerfed the gold rewards for garrisons |
| 10:17.39 | Mr_Rabies | the more of them you do per week the fewer you get |
| 10:17.46 | Mr_Rabies | across all chars |
| 10:18.51 | Mr_Rabies | the only reason to do a level 3 garrison is a higher chance at the decent ship missions, since those are so insanely rare |
| 10:19.07 | Mr_Rabies | well, and the ring, if you want it on that char |
| 10:20.40 | nevcairiel | i still make 3-4k from the missions alone each day across 3 chars |
| 10:20.43 | nevcairiel | cant complain |
| 10:20.46 | Mr_Rabies | how the hell |
| 10:21.14 | Mr_Rabies | almost all the gold missions i get are like 30g if i actually login every day even on one char |
| 10:21.36 | Stanzilla | get more treasure hunters |
| 10:21.49 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't mean you get more missions :< |
| 10:21.52 | nevcairiel | yesterday I made 3208g |
| 10:21.53 | Stanzilla | and 30g is like half a mission :D |
| 10:22.02 | nevcairiel | and I even was out half the day |
| 10:22.06 | Mr_Rabies | like 60+ of my missions are useless xp missions |
| 10:22.27 | Mr_Rabies | like 2/3 of my followers are treasure hunters, because most of the rest aren't very useful |
| 10:22.41 | Mr_Rabies | er 60% of my missions |
| 10:22.51 | Mr_Rabies | i've got an inn and still |
| 10:23.05 | Mr_Rabies | i get the 300g mission occasionally but that's about once a month |
| 10:23.42 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/bbUnoOy.png |
| 10:23.50 | Stanzilla | looks like that all the time |
| 10:24.38 | Mr_Rabies | yup, those miserable ones |
| 10:24.53 | Stanzilla | and that like 3 times a day |
| 10:24.56 | Stanzilla | per char |
| 10:25.01 | Mr_Rabies | mine don't really refresh |
| 10:25.12 | Mr_Rabies | i just stop getting gold ones after a single wave of them, typically |
| 10:25.20 | nevcairiel | just got a 175g mission for 3 people, thats 700g right there |
| 10:25.21 | Mr_Rabies | after 2-3 on that char |
| 10:25.25 | nevcairiel | and those show up frequently enough |
| 10:29.37 | Mr_Rabies | i have the worst luck with the gold missions |
| 10:29.46 | Mr_Rabies | i mean |
| 10:29.54 | Mr_Rabies | not considering that it's basically free gold, but compared to others |
| 10:29.57 | Mr_Rabies | it seems like i do |
| 10:30.15 | Mr_Rabies | at this point it's paying for my subscription until that gets out of hand |
| 10:30.35 | Mr_Rabies | maybe, i dunno, i haven't really tallied it |
| 10:30.36 | Stanzilla | that does not work out in EU |
| 10:30.44 | Mr_Rabies | but i do have enough saved up to pay for my sub, at least, for a few months |
| 10:31.05 | Mr_Rabies | it's steadily increasing in the us, it's up to around 36k last i checked |
| 10:31.10 | Mr_Rabies | i got mine about a month ago for 32k |
| 10:31.17 | Stanzilla | EU is 65k |
| 10:31.26 | Stanzilla | (or so) |
| 10:31.35 | Mr_Rabies | ooh it went up to 37k in the us |
| 10:32.21 | nevcairiel | i like the EU price since I have more money than gold =p |
| 10:33.20 | Mr_Rabies | how much is it in EU regions, real money wise |
| 10:33.39 | nevcairiel | its â¬20 per token |
| 10:33.51 | nevcairiel | which is about 21.5 USD |
| 10:34.09 | Mr_Rabies | ah yeah okay, fairly close |
| 10:34.34 | Mr_Rabies | i love how it's 192k in korea |
| 10:34.36 | Mr_Rabies | jesus, korea |
| 10:34.42 | Mr_Rabies | calm the gold farming please |
| 10:34.49 | nevcairiel | asian countries just have an entirely different mindset towards such games |
| 10:35.21 | Mr_Rabies | as i understand it, cheating is barely even punished in the korean and taiwanese realms |
| 10:35.47 | Mr_Rabies | so tons of bots, i'd imagine |
| 10:35.57 | Mr_Rabies | i played a korean game that had a built in bot...that was interesting |
| 10:36.14 | Mr_Rabies | it'd farm mobs for you if you either found a rare item or bought it on their real money store |
| 10:36.20 | Mr_Rabies | for an hour a pop |
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| 11:47.50 | foxlit | wts Reamde offline character behaviour? |
| 11:51.18 | nevcairiel | i forgot what they did exactly, just make them AI and keep going? |
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| 12:49.37 | foxlit | Pretty much that. |
| 12:51.01 | nevcairiel | been a while since i read that |
| 12:51.56 | Neffi | I found Reamde boring and didn't finish it :( |
| 12:52.03 | nevcairiel | i liked it |
| 12:52.12 | Neffi | Even though I loved Anathem and Cryptonomicon -- two of my favorite books |
| 12:52.27 | nevcairiel | actually i lied, i didnt read it, i had an audiobook |
| 12:54.16 | foxlit | speaking of Anathem, someone should clearly sell software to post junk information on the internet. |
| 12:54.35 | nevcairiel | i'm sure someone does |
| 12:54.44 | Neffi | foxlit: huh? |
| 12:57.10 | foxlit | it'd complement all the current "we mine the social internets for key insights!" offerings nicely |
| 12:58.54 | Neffi | I have no idea what you are talking about |
| 13:11.21 | foxlit | "The vast majority of what's on the Reticulum, is, therefore, crap." |
| 13:12.11 | foxlit | I'm reasonably sure there was a paragraph somewhere providing some history regarding that. |
| 13:13.46 | Neffi | Ah, I don't remember. Maybe it's time to give it another read soon |
| 13:14.09 | foxlit | "But it had to be good crap." |
| 13:15.54 | foxlit | "Good crap would be a beatifully typeset, well-written document that contained a hundred correct, verifiable sentences and one that was subtly false." |
| 13:17.18 | Neffi | haha |
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| 13:49.16 | WrathTECH | What's the trick to making a link from creating a font string, clickable? http://pastebin.com/fyzw7cUN |
| 13:49.43 | WrathTECH | I can click it if I print it to chat, but the actual text string is non clickable |
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| 14:59.52 | foxlit | There is no trick; fontstrings aren't clickable. |
| 15:00.22 | WrathTECH | Is there another way make a clickable link then? |
| 15:02.08 | foxlit | SimpleHTML. |
| 15:03.22 | foxlit | The Heroic Djinn encounter should've been scripted to only give you "Wish for more Wishes" cards, recursively. |
| 15:05.09 | foxlit | (I bring that up because mentioning SimpleHTML is similarly malicious) |
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| 15:12.50 | WrathTECH | foxlit: Would you happen to know of a addon that uses SimpleHTML to display spell links, I need a reference to see how SimpleHTML works.. never messed with it before. |
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| 15:20.42 | Amarande | foxlit: you cannot wish for a wand of wishing :p |
| 15:21.09 | Amarande | but here, have some +3 grey dragon scale mail as a consolation prize |
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| 15:33.24 | meribold | NetHack? |
| 15:35.38 | Amarande | meribold: heh, I was referencing that, yeah |
| 15:36.43 | Amarande | (actually I think technically you CAN wish for a wand of wishing but it comes out as fully discharged and unusable IIRC) |
| 15:37.37 | meribold | ah, that's what (1:0) or (1:-1) means? |
| 15:44.48 | fewyn | Your device is up to date. Last checked: Today, ââ10:43 AM |
| 15:44.50 | fewyn | (â¯Â°â¡Â°)â¯ï¸µ â»ââ» |
| 15:44.53 | fewyn | y u no windows update |
| 15:45.50 | meribold | I thought it has forced updates now |
| 15:46.00 | fewyn | they are rolling out the fall update in phases |
| 15:46.14 | fewyn | fall update is basically their new word for sp1 |
| 15:46.38 | fewyn | they are going to have fall/spring updates... maybe a summer one |
| 15:50.38 | Amarande | meribold: yeah, 1:0 means it's been recharged once and has no charges left |
| 15:50.55 | Amarande | and since you can only recharge /oW's once |
| 15:51.39 | Amarande | reminds me, I need to actually get around to hooking up my fiancee's old laptop to my monitor |
| 15:51.46 | Amarande | she had me take it home with me last time I visited her so I could get W10 set up |
| 15:52.13 | Amarande | (the built-in screen got ruined by a cat ... gotta use external monitor with hdmi) |
| 15:52.45 | Amarande | we registered it for W10 when I was out in Chicago but the whole "oh you gotta wait a few days" left us without enough time to finish the upgrade there :p |
| 15:54.34 | meribold | Well, hopefully GNU/Linux gaming take off and become competitive in terms of performance |
| 15:54.45 | meribold | will take off |
| 15:54.49 | Amarande | yeah, it shows a lot of promise already |
| 15:55.00 | Amarande | now if dota 2 would actually let me start or spectate a game without crashing |
| 15:55.02 | Amarande | (menus work fine, though) |
| 15:55.11 | Amarande | wonder if I actually do need to update mesa |
| 15:56.06 | meribold | otoh you have blizzard not even supporting mac os with overwatch |
| 15:56.26 | Amarande | meribold: that's apparently because of hardware, from what I've gathered from ars comments |
| 15:56.40 | Amarande | apple has kind of shot themselves in the foot gaming-wise, linux probably has a better future because it's standard PC hardware |
| 15:57.13 | Amarande | basically apple's main problem is that whole combination of super high res screens because yanno RETINA, with weakling mobile/integrated graphics |
| 15:57.41 | Amarande | pretty much unless you have a hackintosh your graphics aren't going to be able to handle overwatch anyway even if it was out for osx |
| 15:57.52 | Amarande | (and if you do have a hackintosh you can just dual boot with windows anyway, because you have a PC :P) |
| 15:58.15 | Torhal | I can dual-boot into Windows if I install it, and I'm on a standard iMac. |
| 15:58.21 | Torhal | Pretty sure I could run Overwatch. |
| 15:58.31 | Amarande | Torhal: yeah, the question is if your GPU's good enough to run it well enough |
| 15:58.38 | Torhal | GeForce GTX 775M |
| 15:58.41 | Amarande | which is the basic issue, most Macs' GPUs aren't |
| 15:58.51 | Amarande | because most Macs are laptops these days with IGPs |
| 15:59.32 | Amarande | although those are getting pretty decent ... if Intel can make another leap forward like they did with 530 and Iris Pro 6200, they'll be easily competing with most discrete cards |
| 15:59.48 | meribold | https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/overwatch-system-requirements |
| 16:00.00 | meribold | pretty moderate system requirements |
| 16:00.00 | Amarande | (not something I'm really entirely happy about, mostly because none of my current PCs have integrated graphics |
| 16:00.25 | Amarande | i.e., if IGPs get that good, next thing all that will be available if I need a new graphics card will be the expensive stuff because that's the only stuff that will be worth selling |
| 16:01.16 | meribold | AMD has pretty decent IGs, to bad their single-core IPC suck... |
| 16:08.30 | Amarande | well, we'll have to see what zen brings |
| 16:09.11 | meribold | yeah, I'm pretty patient about CPUs at this point:) |
| 16:09.20 | meribold | not much happening really |
| 16:09.26 | Amarande | I wonder if there is any validity to the conspiracy theory that the AMD "What is a Core?" lawsuit is a deliberate attack on behalf of Intel and/or Nvidia to try to knock AMD into the grave before they have a chance to get back on their feet with Zen :S |
| 16:09.54 | meribold | Haven't heard of that lawsuit |
| 16:10.00 | Amarande | it's been mentioned on Ars |
| 16:10.22 | Amarande | they're being sued claiming that they falsely claimed a higher core count on Bulldozer-style CPUs than they should have |
| 16:10.42 | meribold | Intel isn't known for shying away from anything to secure their market dominance, though |
| 16:10.44 | Amarande | i.e., the claim is that the "8-core" Bulldozer/Vishera should have been marketed as merely four-core because of how Bulldozer modules work |
| 16:11.12 | meribold | It's kinda unclear, I guess |
| 16:11.12 | Amarande | I've seen it been claimed to be an Intel shill claim, and also to be an Nvidia shill claim |
| 16:11.19 | Amarande | I'm not sure which ... my leaning would be towards Intel |
| 16:11.32 | Amarande | simply because Nvidia does not stand to benefit very much if AMD dies |
| 16:11.52 | Amarande | they may gain a little bit of time, but it's a virtual certainty someone else would buy out and start making Radeons, so no lasting advantage for Nvidia |
| 16:12.12 | meribold | Does Intel? I heard that they'll get into trouble more easily when they'd have an actualy monopoly |
| 16:12.34 | Amarande | Intel might stand to have a monopoly on CPUs on the other hand depending on how the whole "does the x86 licence transfer" thing might get ruled in such an event |
| 16:12.46 | Amarande | but the thing is, they already pretty much do, because AMD doesn't really compete as it is above the Pentium/i3 tier |
| 16:13.01 | meribold | and that it's more advantageous for Intel to have this kind of quasi-monopoly they have now |
| 16:13.09 | Amarande | although they might be scared of Zen |
| 16:13.16 | meribold | yeah |
| 16:13.58 | Amarande | supposedly if AMD dies and is sold off the x86 licence is lost, but as for whether that's actually valid, we'll probably never actually know until if and when AMD actually does go bust, since that'll probably get the daylights litigated out of it |
| 16:14.01 | meribold | They probably coudn't pull off the strategy they used against Athlon XP again:P |
| 16:14.53 | Amarande | the whole thing is BS though, the specs spell out very clearly what you get when you buy a Bulldozer-style CPU |
| 16:15.19 | Amarande | they are real cores, far as I know the only time you can't actually really do 8 simultaneous threads on an FX-8xxx is if AVX is involved |
| 16:15.38 | meribold | It certainly isn't more misleading than typical ads for consumer PCs |
| 16:15.44 | Amarande | and AVX is semi-insanity anyway (even Intel CPUs are strained, they have to overvolt themselves and take as big as a 15C temperature hit in order to do AVX) |
| 16:15.45 | meribold | with all those relabeled GPUs etc. |
| 16:16.22 | Amarande | (apparently this is because the silicon devoted to avx on intel is unusually large and requires extra voltage to be stable, or so I'm told) |
| 16:16.32 | meribold | I thought Bulldozer modules share FPUs, though |
| 16:16.47 | Amarande | Yeah, but apparently even with basic floating point math you can get 8 threads |
| 16:16.58 | Amarande | it's advanced floating point like AVX where the sharedness starts to be an issue |
| 16:17.36 | Amarande | someone's just trying to make a quick buck (good luck with that, it's AMD, that's like blood from a damned stone) and maybe butthurt over that they expected a given level of performance |
| 16:17.57 | Amarande | what'll be next, someone whining that their Huawei P8 "octa-core" is lying about cores because it doesn't run as fast as an Intel 8-core? :P |
| 16:18.26 | Amarande | this is nearly as lame as the time the SD card makers got sued over semantics as to what a "gig" was |
| 16:18.27 | meribold | Or that their Nvidia GPU doesn't have the amount of memore advertized? |
| 16:18.28 | meribold | oh wait |
| 16:18.41 | Amarande | yeah that too, where's the suit against Nvidia for the whole 970 memory thing |
| 16:18.49 | Amarande | that's more egregious than anything AMD did with Bulldozer :p |
| 16:19.30 | meribold | Whatever counts as a "core" probably doesn't have a clear legal definition |
| 16:19.38 | Amarande | also I might go back to AMD loyalism in the future especially if zen is good ... I'm really not keen on this whole Intel Software Guard Extensions thing that came out in Skylake |
| 16:19.39 | meribold | I don't think this will stand up in court |
| 16:19.58 | Amarande | the whole idea of user-level processes that are encrypted and immune to interference even from administrator level processes? |
| 16:20.15 | Amarande | umm ... user-level processes are *supposed* to be subject to administrator intervention, that's how it works, that's how all of this works :p |
| 16:21.13 | meribold | I haven't heard of that.. |
| 16:21.33 | meribold | so.. some program can have memory regions that a user can't inspect? |
| 16:23.02 | Amarande | meribold: yes that's how SGX works |
| 16:23.23 | Amarande | I learned about it because it's speculated it's why the integrated graphics on Skylake now require a binary closed source blob |
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| 16:23.47 | Amarande | (as in people think the need for a blob might be related to protected-media-path type coding in order to go with protected processes in SGX) |
| 16:23.51 | meribold | that sounds pretty vicious |
| 16:24.07 | meribold | pretty much a new level of opacity |
| 16:24.08 | Amarande | yeah, it seems like a security hazard more than a security benefit |
| 16:24.28 | Amarande | either malware will be written for it (not sure if that's really feasible because I think SGX enclave code may need to be signed, not 100% on that) |
| 16:24.51 | Amarande | or it will be written to target vulnerabilities in such software/things that interact with it |
| 16:25.01 | Amarande | basically the Sony rootkit malware issue all over again except even harder to detect |
| 16:26.13 | meribold | I feel like Sony et al. might have to do with this |
| 16:26.22 | meribold | maybe they want it for media playback |
| 16:26.47 | Amarande | Yeah, pretty sure SGX will get used for DRM a lot :p |
| 16:27.15 | Amarande | but yeah, there's a lot of wondering why Intel suddenly started requiring a blob for integrated graphics |
| 16:27.27 | Amarande | they never used to, and meanwhile AMD has been moving away from needing any closed firmware to operate their GPUs |
| 16:27.59 | Amarande | e.g., the only thing I've been able to tell the Pitcairn firmware blob is useful for is mode switching in textmode, it doesn't seem to have a thing to do with X |
| 16:28.19 | Amarande | (the intel blob is definitely more serious business, apparently X will run without it but you get no hardware acceleration and no hardware 3D rendering) |
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| 16:30.06 | meribold | interesting... yeah AMD is using a common basis for the free and proprieatry drivers now, right? |
| 16:32.06 | meribold | Didn't know the free Nvidia drivers are completely unsupported either |
| 16:32.49 | Amarande | yeah the free nvidia drivers are a joke |
| 16:33.07 | Amarande | I've read a GTX560 works as well as an Intel integrated graphics card because of lack of power management feature support on nouveau |
| 16:33.16 | Amarande | though, on the bright side, that's probably got to be the coolest running Fermi ever, LOL |
| 16:33.31 | Amarande | (Fermi apparently were notorious heat-hogs) |
| 16:37.29 | sylvanaar | Can you specify multiple SavedVariables in the Toc File? |
| 16:38.54 | sylvanaar | Like ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter: Prat3CharDB, Prat3HighCPUPerCharDB |
| 16:39.01 | sylvanaar | That works I think right? |
| 16:39.49 | meribold | just assign a value to some dummy element in both tables and relog? |
| 16:40.07 | meribold | and see if it's still there |
| 16:40.10 | meribold | I think it works |
| 16:40.20 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar: yes |
| 16:42.08 | sylvanaar | Ok thanks nevcairiel |
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| 18:23.37 | pompy | dafuq https://news.vice.com/article/windows-31-is-still-alive-and-it-just-killed-a-french-airport |
| 18:32.53 | kd3 | wtf |
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| 18:51.26 | fewyn | if i find whoever took my tools and "misplaced" them i'm going to shoot them |
| 18:51.37 | fewyn | when you borrow things you need to put them back :/ |
| 18:51.45 | WrathTECH | Anybody know of a good example how to use SimpleHTML to create a spell and/or item link? I'm completely at a loss here. |
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| 18:53.30 | Simca | WrathTECH: I'm also at a loss, what does SimpleHTML have to do with spell and item links |
| 18:54.01 | VIad1 | any fellow fallout4 gamers here? |
| 18:54.16 | VIad1 | on PC |
| 18:54.17 | Neffi | i'm playing fallout3 right now, does that count? |
| 18:54.20 | Neffi | ;) |
| 18:54.21 | WrathTECH | I need to make spell links within my addon's frames. Just using a FontString produces a non-clickable link. |
| 18:54.21 | VIad1 | nope :p |
| 18:55.48 | kd3 | http://wow.gamepedia.com/Itemlink |
| 18:56.07 | WrathTECH | The links already work if printed to a chat frame. |
| 18:56.52 | VIad1 | the reason I ask is that I have some tips for you guys :p |
| 18:57.18 | VIad1 | I recommend turning off vsync in the config files then using a fps limiter (I use dxtory) to cap it at 100 and enjoy a smooth game! |
| 18:57.23 | VIad1 | default is 30 fps locked :( |
| 18:57.26 | Simca | VIad1: i've been playing it when I can, only like 9 hours in |
| 18:58.02 | Simca | too much work this week, blizzard is going nuts with patches + lots of course work |
| 18:58.13 | VIad1 | http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Fallout_4 |
| 18:58.15 | VIad1 | its good :) |
| 18:58.25 | kd3 | I'm saving fallout 4 for after thanksgiving |
| 18:58.40 | VIad1 | I recommend the fps thing, makes the game much nicer. |
| 18:58.42 | kd3 | my lotv box gets here today and then there's other stuff starting soon(TM) |
| 18:59.21 | zenzelezz | ... box? |
| 18:59.28 | kd3 | collector's edition |
| 18:59.36 | zenzelezz | ah |
| 18:59.50 | Simca | High frame rates break some gameplay mechanics, such as lockpicking and using terminals and cause timing related issues. |
| 19:00.46 | zenzelezz | remember when games were entirely locked to clock speeds? "Let's plays some PacGMAE OVER" |
| 19:00.48 | Simca | that's just sad |
| 19:02.20 | VIad1 | Simca: only over 120 |
| 19:02.25 | VIad1 | capping at 100 no problems so far |
| 19:02.35 | Simca | the wiki you linked says over 60 |
| 19:02.50 | Simca | but I wouldn't go over 60 anyway, my monitor is 60 Hz |
| 19:03.20 | VIad1 | 144 hz monitor, and I tested it. 100 is still stable for me. |
| 19:04.43 | Simca | zenzelezz: yeah, the issue plagues devs to this day, some of the Wii/Wii U VC releases of N64 games have bad timing in minigames and such |
| 19:05.05 | Stanzilla | best part was that need for speed game that was locked to 30fps and totally spazzed out if you went over it |
| 19:05.22 | Simca | was trying to beat a specific zelda minigame and realized, i'm not just bad, the timer's actually going too fast. |
| 19:05.36 | zenzelezz | Stanzilla: well, it needed speed, not framerates. It's right there in the name! |
| 19:06.04 | Stanzilla | true |
| 19:07.27 | VIad1 | if you are like me, motion sick, then I recommend setting the fov higher too :p |
| 19:07.41 | VIad1 | and 3rd person when outside in the world is nice. combined with higher fps its less eye strain. |
| 19:08.12 | Simca | some pretty great bugs just in my 9 hours already |
| 19:08.41 | kd3 | this is why I'm waiting a while. I can keep myself from getting spoiled for a month or so |
| 19:09.04 | Simca | first suit of power armor, I parked it in my first settlement, a random villager comes over, gets in it, and it disappears around him, his arms stretched out down to his knees and his fists the size of basketballs |
| 19:09.39 | Simca | trying to talk to him results in "I need you to get out of my power armor" and his response is always some every day quote, as if I had said something entirely different. |
| 19:10.50 | VIad1 | Simca: lol :D |
| 19:10.53 | VIad1 | but its true, if you leave your core in it bandits and other npcs can take it |
| 19:11.10 | Primer | One thing that is currently annoying me in Fallout 4 are popups that appear for .0634 seconds, and I'm expected to read them in that amount of time |
| 19:11.14 | Primer | and there's no way to get them back |
| 19:12.37 | Primer | Another issue is that the game set my graphics setting to high/ultra for an nvidia 770, and there are places where the frame rate seems to chug, but they're always indoors. Outdoors, where I'd expect FPS drops, is perfectly fine |
| 19:13.24 | Simca | also there's a bugged texture in Cambridge that obscures both entrances to a specific building, causing you to circle around the building repeatedly wondering wtf you are doing wrong, before you realize that you can just walk through one of the walls. |
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| 19:15.52 | Simca | oh, and the game absorbs mouse/keyboard inputs in such a way that if you leave it running and windows turns off your monitors waiting for an input, it will never get it. |
| 19:16.12 | Simca | still, better than skyrim launch. 9 hours into that on launch week, i'd crashed to desktop at least 15 times. |
| 19:18.38 | Primer | It seems that they recommend using non-borderless-windowed mode due to FPS issues...but I _really_ hate not being able to hit escape and go to another app on one of the other 2 displays |
| 19:20.22 | Fisker | Hey Simca |
| 19:20.25 | Fisker | e |
| 19:20.27 | Fisker | y |
| 19:20.56 | Simca | Hey Fisker |
| 19:20.57 | Simca | e |
| 19:20.58 | Simca | y |
| 19:21.15 | Fisker | how'd you know? |
| 19:21.53 | mckenziemc | hey Fisker |
| 19:21.56 | mckenziemc | how didn't you know? |
| 19:31.44 | fewyn | sigh |
| 19:31.47 | fewyn | my day is pretty much ruined |
| 19:32.02 | fewyn | someone borrowed my socket screwdriver and never returned it |
| 19:34.26 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 19:35.06 | meribold | he might still return it |
| 19:35.10 | mckenziemc | maybe you could 3d print another one ;) |
| 19:35.12 | fewyn | he's misplaced it |
| 19:35.23 | fewyn | i need the screwdriver so i can build the 3d printer |
| 19:35.26 | fewyn | a bit of a catch 22! |
| 19:35.50 | meribold | you need to bootstrap the screwdriver |
| 19:38.04 | mckenziemc | is currently figuring out how to print (long) parts for a redesigned bed to make the bed easier to level for printing long parts. |
| 19:51.26 | karl_w_w | is this true? nobody is buying danish bacon? :P |
| 19:52.20 | fewyn | wat |
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| 20:36.58 | zenzelezz | oh, PHP... date/time format constants "DateTime::ISO8601"/"DATE_ISO8601" note: "This format is not compatible with ISO-8601, but is left this way for backward compatibility reasons. Use DateTime::ATOM or DATE_ATOM for compatibility with ISO-8601 instead" |
| 20:41.20 | meribold | I blame internet explorer |
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| 21:03.33 | Mr_Rabies | >CTA is only for tanks right now |
| 21:03.38 | Mr_Rabies | >average wait time for tanks is 4 minutes |
| 21:03.39 | Mr_Rabies | what |
| 21:04.02 | Mr_Rabies | now 5 minutes |
| 21:04.10 | Mr_Rabies | gonna go ahead and say the instance servers just putzed out |
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| 21:08.06 | Mr_Rabies | up to 9 minutes, lol |
| 21:15.12 | Mr_Rabies | man why are people doing ML for pugs still, what on earth |
| 21:15.20 | fewyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.39 | mckenziemc | time for a trip to the hardware store? |
| 21:15.47 | fewyn | my car was loaned out this morning |
| 21:15.49 | fewyn | to my brother |
| 21:15.53 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 21:16.00 | fewyn | and i have like 7$ in my bank account until next friday |
| 21:16.55 | fewyns_brother | hey its me ur brother |
| 21:17.02 | Mr_Rabies | why did i make that joke what's wrong with me |
| 21:17.11 | zenzelezz | we've been asking that for a long time |
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| 21:17.31 | Mr_Rabies | so bad that seerah bailed |
| 21:17.49 | mckenziemc | stabs Mr_Rabies. |
| 21:18.22 | Mr_Rabies | cracks me up everytime i see it though |
| 21:19.01 | Mr_Rabies | for anyone unaware: http://i.imgur.com/562v8W4.png |
| 21:20.05 | zenzelezz | blinks |
| 21:20.52 | fewyn | Mr_Rabies much joke bad |
| 21:23.25 | thankfully_not_M | stupid name length limit :( |
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| 22:15.45 | kd3 | ugh. another mass-casualty event in paris? |
| 22:15.58 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 22:16.08 | Amarande | kd3: for a moment on the news I almost thought they were saying "Terrorist France" instead of "Paris, France" :| |
| 22:17.42 | Stanzilla | http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed |
| 22:17.45 | Stanzilla | 35 dead so far |
| 22:18.00 | Stanzilla | dismembered body is said to be found, suspecting suicide bombers |
| 22:18.04 | Stanzilla | also 60+ hostages |
| 22:22.25 | Stanzilla | latest reports say more than 40 dead |
| 22:28.10 | zenzelezz | wtf |
| 22:30.22 | Arrow|work | ah man, my beer sprayed all over my monitor and keyboard when i opened the can |
| 22:30.45 | Arrow|work | im about to murder this tech i have onsite |
| 22:31.05 | Torhal | You're onsite with beer? Nice. |
| 22:31.06 | Torhal | :D |
| 22:31.13 | Arrow|work | no im at work with a beer |
| 22:31.31 | Arrow|work | im on the phone with a tech onsite trying to trouble shoot access points |
| 22:31.44 | Arrow|work | hes there to fix 1 ap out of 5, he brought 3 more down |
| 22:31.57 | Torhal | Wow. |
| 22:31.58 | Mr_Rabies | I DON'T GET WHY IT'S NOT WORKING *sprays beer all over monitor/keyboard* *pours beer down power supply* *throws pc down a flight of stairs* |
| 22:32.00 | Torhal | Nice job. |
| 22:32.08 | Mr_Rabies | :v |
| 22:32.32 | Arrow|work | site is running on 1 out of 5 APs right now and i just need him to fucking put things back the way he found them so i can get somebody else there |
| 22:34.29 | zenzelezz | Arrow|work: http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/270909742_fd9976c099.jpg |
| 22:34.32 | Mr_Rabies | phone support is pretty much one of the worst ideas |
| 22:35.19 | Mr_Rabies | it's like someone directing a surgery via phone |
| 22:35.41 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, it might be possible, but looking at things is probably a lot better |
| 22:35.55 | Arrow|work | most of what i do is 'set this static ip on your laptop, plug in here, and get me a speed test' or 'setup laptop like this and let me do a remote login' |
| 22:36.50 | Mr_Rabies | drink more beer |
| 22:36.51 | Mr_Rabies | it'll hlep |
| 22:36.55 | Mr_Rabies | or at least |
| 22:37.02 | Mr_Rabies | you won't care if this guy keeps messing things up |
| 22:37.03 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 22:37.26 | Mr_Rabies | oh wait i totally misunderstood the situation |
| 22:37.52 | Mr_Rabies | i was thinking you had an onsite guy at your office and was directing you via phone, but you run support, i see |
| 22:37.55 | Stanzilla | "Two or three terrorist, without masks, entered the Bataclan during the concert. They shot indiscriminately on people during 15 minutes. It was extremely violent". |
| 22:38.27 | Arrow|work | i want to go get the bottle of jack from my car |
| 22:39.00 | Stanzilla | 60 dead now |
| 22:39.02 | Mr_Rabies | get it, drink it, walk to tech, throw empty bottle at his temples |
| 22:39.23 | Arrow|work | hes in new jersey |
| 22:40.15 | Mr_Rabies | even better reason |
| 22:40.19 | Stanzilla | video https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/665296962090987520 |
| 22:41.03 | Mr_Rabies | jeez |
| 22:41.55 | Mr_Rabies | don't think i'd be filming if i was in earshot of automatic gunfire in such a situation, but can't exactly criticize illogical behavior in a crisis |
| 22:41.58 | nevcairiel | someone sure doesnt like the french |
| 22:42.38 | Stanzilla | Supporters of ISIS are saying Rome, London, and Washington D.C. are next. |
| 22:42.39 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.39 | Stanzilla | They are using the hashtag #بارÙس_تشتع٠|
| 22:44.06 | Mr_Rabies | apparently means "paris burning" or something along those lines |
| 22:44.54 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 22:44.55 | Stanzilla | People still inside the Bataclan calling for help: "Please come help us ! They are shooting people one by one ! First floor, quick !" |
| 22:46.27 | nevcairiel | you have to wonder what they plan to achieve, other than the western world going into full out war against them (instead of just supporting the countries where they were active) |
| 22:46.55 | Stanzilla | that's how retarded religion makes them |
| 22:46.56 | Stanzilla | France 24 now reporting that the possibility of the shooting at the Les Halles shopping mall (first reported by Europe 1 Radio) is credible. |
| 22:47.17 | Mr_Rabies | IS's goal is a global caliphate via destroying western culture, generally |
| 22:48.11 | Mr_Rabies | also: outbreeding the west and destroying their societies from within |
| 22:48.35 | Mr_Rabies | no real guarantee this is them, though, yet |
| 22:48.40 | Stanzilla | obama is on |
| 22:48.41 | Stanzilla | http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed |
| 22:48.50 | Mr_Rabies | it seems to be a a coordinated attack of some sort, though |
| 22:49.47 | Stanzilla | ofc it is |
| 22:50.34 | Stanzilla | 200 soldiers are being sent to #Paris' 11 and 10 arrondissements |
| 22:54.48 | Amarande | wow I'm surprised France hasn't objected to that one vehemently |
| 22:54.55 | Amarande | Paris now seeming to be "hashtag Paris" that is |
| 22:55.00 | Amarande | you know how they are about language there :) |
| 22:55.18 | Amarande | e.g., "CD-ROM" wasn't good enough for them ... they had to change it to "cederom" (pronounced, of course, "CD-ROM") |
| 22:55.59 | Stanzilla | hollande speaking now |
| 22:57.31 | Stanzilla | borders closed |
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| 23:00.48 | Amarande | any of the attackers folks who came in as so-called refugees from syria, I wonder? |
| 23:02.17 | Mr_Rabies | i mean, almost certainly |
| 23:03.13 | Mr_Rabies | such a thing is pretty much impossible to properly secure, and will undoubtedly lead to opportunists using the lack of security to take advantage |
| 23:05.27 | Amarande | nevcairiel: and yeah it definitely seems someone *really* doesn't like the french, and in a much nastier way than I used to think of the notion |
| 23:05.46 | Amarande | usually when I think of people hating the french I tend to think in terms of "the french, you mean the babies who do stuff like sue google basically just for being too successful?" |
| 23:10.37 | Stanzilla | CNN: Hostages texting that they are being killed 1-by-1. Begging for police raid. |
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| 23:15.50 | Amarande | Stanzilla: well I suppose it will give them a quicker death than having to wait their turn helplessly ... but it probably won't do them any good :( |
| 23:21.01 | Stanzilla | suicide bomber confirmed |
| 23:21.30 | Mr_Rabies | one of the news reports used the term "kamikaze" |
| 23:22.04 | Mr_Rabies | i uh, don't think that's quite accurate |
| 23:22.51 | Amarande | kamikaze seems to have become a pretty generic term for suicide bombing |
| 23:23.04 | Mr_Rabies | really? that's pretty inaccurate |
| 23:23.05 | Amarande | heck, I'm pretty sure even the Japanese sometimes use it so in JRPGs |
| 23:23.19 | Amarande | (which tend to almost invariably feature some or other form of self-destruct type ability) |
| 23:23.37 | Mr_Rabies | i don't even think they really use the term kamikaze as a descriptor for a person in japan |
| 23:23.43 | Mr_Rabies | maybe kamikaze pilot, etc |
| 23:23.44 | Amarande | unless that's just the western localisations that do that |
| 23:23.53 | Mr_Rabies | it means "divine wind" |
| 23:23.57 | Amarande | Jihad, on the other hand, is a term that is in fact quite frequently seen in JRPGs, usually as the name for some high level damage spell or other |
| 23:25.27 | Mr_Rabies | talking about the storm that stopped the mongolian invasion fleet back during kublai khan's reign |
| 23:26.24 | Mr_Rabies | basically "our empire has divine support" i guess it's not too far off, really |
| 23:26.40 | Mr_Rabies | but i've never heard it used in a non-japanese context |
| 23:28.28 | Mr_Rabies | defintely produced some interesting mental images when used in this context |
| 23:31.29 | nevcairiel | > US counter-terror officials tell NBC News that Paris attacks bear hallmarks of al-Qaeda, but also not ruling out ISIS |
| 23:32.48 | Semlar2 | i for one am shocked that muslims would be implicated in a terrorist attack |
| 23:33.57 | Amarande | Semlar2: well in the case of shootings the term seems to be invariably inherently used racistly |
| 23:33.58 | Simca | Semlar don't even start |
| 23:34.06 | Amarande | if you have brown skin and do a mass shooting, you're a terrorist |
| 23:34.20 | Amarande | if you're white, you're apparently only a terrorist if you use a bomb, otherwise you're "mentally ill" and they call for crackdowns on mental health patients |
| 23:36.49 | Mr_Rabies | i think level of planning and coordination typically has a large part to do with it as well |
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| 23:37.33 | zenzelezz | Shirik: http://scottmeyers.blogspot.no/2015/11/breaking-all-eggs-in-c.html |
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| 23:56.58 | Stanzilla | The raid in the Bataclan seems to be over |
| 23:57.04 | Stanzilla | 2 terrorists dead |
| 23:59.28 | Mr_Rabies | hopefully they get someone involved alive if that's possible |
| 23:59.58 | nevcairiel | extremists rather die than talk |
