| 00:00.37 | Fisker | Hey Ackis |
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| 03:15.54 | airtonix_ | hi fisker |
| 03:15.58 | airtonix_ | do you love me |
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| 07:28.44 | karl_w_w | http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2467285 |
| 07:29.23 | karl_w_w | dude spending nearly $800 on RAM, but he wants to get a motherboard and CPU for it for less than $550 |
| 07:29.58 | karl_w_w | * 0.75 for american monies |
| 07:39.44 | Semlar | holy crap you can get a lot of ram by buying a used server |
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| 07:49.57 | NuSuey | blizzard *facepalm* |
| 07:54.48 | NuSuey | have some spoilers for heroes of the storm.. sigh.. |
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| 10:41.42 | karl_w_w | will graphics cards die one day? |
| 10:41.56 | karl_w_w | I can imagine a world where all the processing is done on 1 chip |
| 10:43.33 | Simca | one day? maybe |
| 10:43.50 | Simca | but not without the invention of new technologies |
| 10:44.24 | karl_w_w | like HBM? |
| 10:44.30 | Simca | currently it isn't processing power that restricts the ability for a nice GPU and a nice CPU to be on one chip - it's the memory |
| 10:44.39 | karl_w_w | exactly :P |
| 10:45.26 | Simca | cache misses are devastating and there isn't enough room on a chip to give a GPU and a CPU both proper multi-level caches |
| 10:47.19 | nevcairiel | system memory is also much slower than gpu memory |
| 10:47.34 | nevcairiel | especially with HBM |
| 10:48.44 | nevcairiel | surely its a possibility to consider, but not anytime soon, as different requirements drive different concepts |
| 10:49.31 | nevcairiel | right now you can buy a powerful cpu with a low-end GPU, which is ok for powerful workstations (assuming no graphics power is required), and if you need graphics power, you can just add a GPU card |
| 10:49.50 | nevcairiel | if you always need to pay for the high end GPU even if you dont want it.. |
| 10:52.17 | nevcairiel | the ability to mix and match components makes for the flexibility we all love and enjoy :) |
| 10:58.42 | Gnarfoz | I get the impression I'm just confusing Torhal with my Twitter ravings ^^ |
| 10:59.52 | Gnarfoz | isn't power dissipation also one of the limiting factors |
| 11:01.59 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 11:02.17 | nevcairiel | high-end gpus use the power of like 2-3 high-end CPUs |
| 11:04.20 | Gnarfoz | in hindsight, I'm kind of confused that many of our database servers are 2U |
| 11:09.15 | Gnarfoz | they could accommodate a ton of expansion cards but use one or none |
| 12:09.45 | karl_w_w | nevcairiel if it was all done by 1 processor there wouldn't be "paying for a high end GPU" |
| 12:10.11 | karl_w_w | you'd just buy a chip with a certain amount of power and it would be used as necessary |
| 12:11.04 | nevcairiel | CPU tasks and GPU tasks are extremely different in nature |
| 12:11.23 | nevcairiel | so its quite likely that even if its one chip, there will be distinct areas that do each task |
| 12:11.53 | nevcairiel | which then comes back to concept of which area I want more power in |
| 12:12.35 | nevcairiel | of course someone could invent a totally different architecture one day, but if you want to dream, everything is possible =p |
| 12:32.42 | Gnarfoz | we're already at "one package, both functions", but it's done as you said, by putting both in the same box, not by making them be the same thing |
| 12:35.17 | nevcairiel | of course, but one of those parts is hardly high end |
| 12:36.41 | Gnarfoz | yeah, with AMD the GPU is good but the CPU is... well, AMD. with Intel the CPU is rad, but the GPU is a joke |
| 12:36.48 | Gnarfoz | (what, 7 generations in? still worse than AMD) |
| 12:36.56 | nevcairiel | even the AMD APUs arent exactly their high end models |
| 12:37.08 | Gnarfoz | of course |
| 12:37.19 | nevcairiel | and the intel iris pro GPUs are pretty good for iGPUs, of course not worth anything to a gamer |
| 12:37.31 | Gnarfoz | depends on the use-case, certainly |
| 12:37.38 | Gnarfoz | but iris pro is available in what, 1 SKU? |
| 12:38.11 | nevcairiel | its more common in notebook cpus these days |
| 12:38.26 | Gnarfoz | testing proved that a cheap (even pentium!) CPU + moderately-cheap separate GPU blows any of the APUs out of the water anyway, so, meh |
| 12:38.32 | Gnarfoz | I pretend notebooks don't exist |
| 12:38.33 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 12:39.12 | nevcairiel | the two broadwell desktop CPUs had the iris pro at least |
| 12:39.21 | Gnarfoz | yeah, unicorn CPUs |
| 12:40.01 | Gnarfoz | http://www.computerbase.de/2015-10/benchmark-dota-lol-wow-cs-hots-wot/ this one, I think |
| 12:40.22 | Gnarfoz | i5-5675C? |
| 12:40.50 | nevcairiel | yea |
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| 12:41.38 | nevcairiel | in some games its really near the top |
| 12:45.03 | Gnarfoz | I do wonder why it varies so much; in many games there's that block of 4-5 AMD APUs at the top (behind the CPU+GPU combo, of course), then there's games where just the 5675C is on top of those, and then there's ones where 4-5 Intel CPUs are at the top |
| 12:45.05 | Gnarfoz | wtf ^^ |
| 13:53.09 | karl_w_w | well that isn't exactly a rigid suite of games to use for benchmarking |
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| 13:54.18 | karl_w_w | dota cs and wow are all CPU heavy games, LoL would run on an electrified pringle and hots uses the sc2 engine so *blows raspberry* |
| 13:56.25 | karl_w_w | oh this is recent so I guess it's the source 2 version of dota, I don't know how source 2 performs |
| 14:05.42 | NuSuey | who else watched the blizzcon rehersals this morning? (6-10 h ago) |
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| 14:15.38 | karl_w_w | http://www.rottentomatoes.com/browse/dvd-all/?maxTomato=0 quality viewing |
| 14:16.01 | karl_w_w | I've never even heard of any of these |
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| 14:33.34 | Constie | "The Walking Deceased". |
| 14:37.28 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: wow is pretty GPU greedy these days if you want it to |
| 14:37.57 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: also, it says "Dota 2 Reborn" there, so yes, Source 2 |
| 14:38.27 | Gnarfoz | anyway, the entire point was to test APUs, so why would games of all flavors be a bad choice? :P |
| 14:38.41 | Gnarfoz | NuSuey: I didn't even know that was a thing |
| 14:39.02 | nevcairiel | they just tested the virtual ticket stream with some random content |
| 14:39.21 | NuSuey | Gnarfoz: it wasnt.. they did a WHOPS we are broadcasting the rehersals to the public... which they didnt want |
| 14:39.22 | Gnarfoz | wanna buy? http://www.amazon.com/Overwatch-Collectors-Xbox-One/dp/B017L186JW/ |
| 14:39.36 | Gnarfoz | NuSuey: a... what? :O |
| 14:39.42 | NuSuey | Gnarfoz: yup.. |
| 14:39.45 | Gnarfoz | NuSuey: and how/where did they do it? |
| 14:39.47 | nevcairiel | does that come with a xbone, or why is it so expensive |
| 14:39.54 | NuSuey | Gnarfoz: on the official blizzcon stream |
| 14:40.09 | Gnarfoz | good going |
| 14:40.27 | Gnarfoz | also I can't find anything about WHOPS, is that supposed to be something like whoops? |
| 14:40.47 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 14:40.49 | nevcairiel | just shorter |
| 14:40.53 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't include the "oo" sound of "whoops" so I wasn't certain |
| 14:40.57 | Simca | they've been doing it on and off the last few days |
| 14:41.00 | NuSuey | Gnarfoz: yup.. meant that they did it by mistake |
| 14:41.05 | NuSuey | to prove this.. http://i.imgur.com/lmguFxs.png |
| 14:41.06 | Simca | I don't think the public has noticed until today |
| 14:41.26 | Gnarfoz | I hope some lurker appears who recorded it all |
| 14:41.26 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 14:41.37 | nevcairiel | apparently talent gating in heroes was cut |
| 14:41.38 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:41.49 | Simca | maybe chaud did |
| 14:41.50 | NuSuey | well I have some stuff :p |
| 14:41.56 | nevcairiel | who cares |
| 14:41.57 | Simca | I know he recorded the accidental segments yesterday |
| 14:42.01 | nevcairiel | its mere hours away from the real stuff |
| 14:42.13 | NuSuey | he did? yay |
| 14:42.17 | Simca | but they were mainly just amusing (interns pretending to be tempostorm) |
| 14:42.19 | NuSuey | i only caught some stuff |
| 14:42.36 | Simca | tom chilton giving a victory speech to interns |
| 14:42.42 | Gnarfoz | :D lol |
| 14:42.44 | Simca | classic silly stuff |
| 14:42.55 | Gnarfoz | ideal to get some youtube clicks :P |
| 14:43.57 | NuSuey | i wouldnt upload it anywhere.. thats just bad.. poor em, that they didnt know its being broadcasted in the public |
| 14:45.28 | NuSuey | the black guy barely spoke ..not a fan of him (whoever he is) |
| 14:46.07 | karl_w_w | but they aren't games of all flavours Gnarfoz :P |
| 14:46.35 | nevcairiel | they are typical mainstream games with high replayability |
| 14:46.45 | NuSuey | btw http://i.imgur.com/S9UJAvR.png check the corner |
| 14:47.01 | NuSuey | :D |
| 14:47.21 | karl_w_w | so is cookie clicker nevcairiel, that doesn't make it a particularly good benchmarking tool :P |
| 14:48.11 | nevcairiel | its the games people might actually care about running properly |
| 14:48.44 | nevcairiel | because they run decently on low-end hardware, among other things |
| 14:48.49 | Stanzilla | NuSuey: anything interesting from that oops or only the screenshot you linked? |
| 14:49.12 | NuSuey | Stanzilla: only got some heroes of the storm things.. small things |
| 14:49.35 | Stanzilla | NuSuey: linkerino pls :D |
| 14:49.39 | NuSuey | + the preparation of the 3 hosts |
| 14:53.23 | NuSuey | Stanzilla: well for example http://i.imgur.com/1o1uae5.png |
| 14:53.56 | Stanzilla | the one after that with "new system" would be the good thing :D |
| 14:54.03 | NuSuey | well.. |
| 14:54.45 | NuSuey | http://i.imgur.com/JFD65Uu.png |
| 14:54.48 | NuSuey | here you go |
| 14:55.12 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 14:55.20 | nevcairiel | they could've summarized that in one line "improved matchmaking" =p |
| 14:55.44 | NuSuey | well then they have some 2016 fixes, ranked play thing, banning |
| 14:55.58 | Stanzilla | screenshots! |
| 14:55.59 | NuSuey | and then the this year..which I posted |
| 14:56.09 | NuSuey | so much work :X |
| 14:56.09 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: just watch it later |
| 14:56.23 | Stanzilla | will do :D |
| 14:56.59 | NuSuey | yeah.. nothing big |
| 14:57.41 | NuSuey | just things like a new death recap system |
| 14:57.52 | Stanzilla | that is nice |
| 14:58.05 | Stanzilla | screenshot of that and I will be quiet .D |
| 14:58.19 | NuSuey | shiishhh.. |
| 14:58.43 | NuSuey | http://i.imgur.com/uuJPVqc.png |
| 15:00.29 | Stanzilla | thx |
| 15:00.56 | Ressy | Stanzilla stop leaking shit |
| 15:01.00 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 15:01.03 | NuSuey | oh but there was something when they were talking with ben brode.. |
| 15:01.07 | NuSuey | Stanzilla: yeah, stop it! |
| 15:02.42 | NuSuey | michelle morrow was CRAZY stoked when she was talking with him about the new stuff |
| 15:03.18 | NuSuey | (hearthstone stuff) |
| 15:03.38 | nevcairiel | hearthstone so boring |
| 15:03.52 | Alram | ah yes michelle morrow |
| 15:03.58 | Alram | great at staring into cameras |
| 15:05.05 | NuSuey | her crazy stoked face http://i.imgur.com/4KNwstR.png (well she got 3 of em at least) |
| 15:06.24 | VIad | hmm, is geforce experience broked? |
| 15:06.32 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 15:06.34 | VIad | keeps saying my drivers are up to date for the last months |
| 15:06.42 | VIad | but I get new drivers if I manually look it up :p |
| 15:06.54 | VIad | kind of defeats the purpose if I check manually :< |
| 15:06.56 | nevcairiel | maybe you turned off auto update |
| 15:06.56 | Alram | NuSuey, murmurmurmur shenemurnemur right |
| 15:07.13 | VIad | check for updates button does nothing |
| 15:07.19 | VIad | says that my drivers are up to date |
| 15:07.24 | VIad | even when they arent |
| 15:07.38 | nevcairiel | i usually dont give it enough time to notify me |
| 15:07.41 | nevcairiel | so i wouldnt know |
| 15:07.56 | VIad | :< |
| 15:09.03 | VIad | maybe my gpu is so old they dont really support it anymore :p |
| 15:09.12 | NuSuey | http://i.imgur.com/AwVuPeV.png her "om so stoked.. thats gona .... AAAAAAAAAAAAAA ..like ...whaaa...SO EXCITED " face |
| 15:09.34 | NuSuey | i really like her |
| 15:09.48 | NuSuey | alex albrecht is like .. oh yeah hearthstone..booooooring |
| 15:09.53 | Alram | oh |
| 15:09.56 | Alram | we're sharing pictures? |
| 15:10.00 | VIad | for this to be 2015 the age of 4k this looks very pixelated |
| 15:10.18 | NuSuey | VIad: i just grabed it in a bad resolution :p |
| 15:10.20 | Alram | http://marlamin.com/u/2015-11-06_08-40-56-7J2s05Ci.png |
| 15:10.26 | VIad | thanks alram :p |
| 15:10.38 | VIad | who is she? why should I be hyped? |
| 15:10.44 | NuSuey | Alram: yay, magic |
| 15:11.01 | Alram | i will not share any others |
| 15:11.04 | Alram | dont want to get sued |
| 15:11.09 | Simca | lol |
| 15:11.10 | NuSuey | crap |
| 15:11.27 | VIad | lol |
| 15:11.35 | NuSuey | nobody saw anything! |
| 15:11.41 | VIad | I guess screencapping the stream and showing my friend is illegal? |
| 15:11.52 | Alram | unless you call it a viewing party |
| 15:11.55 | Alram | and its not over the internet |
| 15:11.55 | Alram | yes |
| 15:12.02 | VIad | what if its over a vpn? |
| 15:12.08 | Alram | sorry no |
| 15:12.13 | VIad | technically still internet :p |
| 15:12.17 | Simca | i'm pretty sure they do not care about screencaps of the stream marla |
| 15:12.23 | Simca | mmoc does that every year |
| 15:12.32 | VIad | maybe they are excempt |
| 15:12.37 | Simca | hahahahahaha no. |
| 15:12.39 | Alram | its not so much the stream but the contents |
| 15:12.47 | Alram | like |
| 15:12.49 | Alram | if i was tom chilton |
| 15:12.53 | VIad | exempt* |
| 15:12.53 | nevcairiel | screenshots are usually fine, full stream might be questionable |
| 15:12.58 | Alram | i wouldnt want anyone seeing this ever http://marlamin.com/u/2015-11-06_09-24-17-7Z2W46Yq.png |
| 15:13.04 | Simca | rofl |
| 15:13.15 | NuSuey | nevcairiel: phew |
| 15:13.35 | Stanzilla | Alram: edit it to the itshappening gif |
| 15:13.38 | Stanzilla | fits perfectly |
| 15:13.50 | VIad | channel is off air it says |
| 15:13.52 | Alram | oh god |
| 15:13.53 | Alram | it does |
| 15:13.55 | VIad | maybe you are watching something else :p |
| 15:14.02 | Alram | this is from a few hours ago |
| 15:14.03 | nevcairiel | thats old caps |
| 15:14.08 | VIad | aha |
| 15:14.11 | VIad | some tech testing maybe? |
| 15:14.23 | nevcairiel | it was their rehersal, which accidentally aired for a bit |
| 15:14.25 | Alram | they just turned on stream but forgot to disable vods for rehearsal |
| 15:14.27 | VIad | :D |
| 15:14.41 | Alram | there was some actual broadcasting too but that was mostly janitors |
| 15:14.47 | VIad | would be awkward if they had rehersed and said something they shouldn't have aired this early |
| 15:14.58 | Alram | yeah |
| 15:15.03 | Alram | or shown the warcraft trailer |
| 15:15.07 | Alram | that would have been pretty stupid! |
| 15:15.20 | Alram | wouldnt be the first time though |
| 15:15.53 | NuSuey | yeah ..cheering before no crowd.. http://i.imgur.com/kUGcUwj.png awkward! |
| 15:15.58 | Alram | anyone remember the kosak interview |
| 15:16.04 | Alram | that they showed before announcing WoD |
| 15:16.11 | Alram | but had a WoD logo in the background |
| 15:16.18 | Alram | that was pretty good |
| 15:17.15 | NuSuey | lol her face http://i.imgur.com/FGfjH04.jpg |
| 15:33.21 | Stanzilla | Alram: http://i.imgur.com/UoaWZ6E.jpg |
| 15:33.31 | NuSuey | lol! |
| 15:34.03 | Alram | nice |
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| 17:24.30 | Gnarfoz | marvellous |
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| 17:26.26 | fewyn | good thing i got the virtual ticket |
| 17:26.30 | fewyn | got called into work for overtime |
| 17:26.58 | Gnarfoz | do they have internets |
| 17:26.58 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 17:27.05 | fewyn | yes but i work in tech support |
| 17:27.14 | fewyn | so i can't /listen/ to the panels |
| 17:27.55 | fewyn | working 7pm-11pm EST so that's.... 4pm-8pm? PST? |
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| 17:28.53 | fewyn | not that there's any specific panels i really want to watch |
| 17:29.00 | fewyn | besides the opening ceremony |
| 17:29.13 | fewyn | i'll probably leave the WCS up tho while at work |
| 17:31.37 | Rythal | I'm praying very quietly that they announce D3X2 and change the panel on the schedule to be X2 news and what's coming |
| 17:31.51 | Ressy | New curseforge live guys :) http://authors.curseforge.com/ |
| 17:31.59 | fewyn | d3x2? |
| 17:32.04 | tlund | virtual ticket streams are all offline? previous years they started running a loop several days in advanced so you could test your player/sound system setup :( |
| 17:32.25 | Rythal | they had pre-tournaments last week for testing.. nothing since then :( |
| 17:32.37 | Rythal | d3 expansion 2. |
| 17:32.53 | fewyn | there's stuff on the schedule for d3 stuff about the future |
| 17:33.21 | fewyn | Blood and Treasure - New Content and Features for Reaper of Souls |
| 17:33.24 | Rythal | yeah, but currently it's what's coming to the current expansion... i'm hoping it's a fake and really what's coming in next expansion |
| 17:33.37 | tlund | if any of you waiting for the streams gets it going, please let the channel know so we can refresh ;) |
| 17:33.41 | Ressy | tlund: I think they have it off cuz they goofed last night, and this morning |
| 17:33.52 | tlund | Ressy: oh? what happened? |
| 17:34.12 | fewyn | leaks |
| 17:34.23 | Ressy | Rehearsal.. They accidentally turned on VOD. |
| 17:35.43 | tlund | ah :) |
| 17:36.00 | Rythal | man, my heroes vinyl was kerrigan.. I have a billion kerrigan things already :/ was hoping a new character |
| 17:36.17 | Fisker | Morning Ressy o/ |
| 17:36.22 | Gnarfoz | guildmate got Ghost Nova |
| 17:36.36 | fewyn | oh shit that reminds me |
| 17:36.40 | fewyn | my goodie bag should be here today |
| 17:36.48 | Rythal | Fisker get back in line |
| 17:36.52 | fewyn | completely forgot |
| 17:37.05 | Fisker | We're not even in line Rythal |
| 17:37.11 | fewyn | it's out for delivery |
| 17:37.28 | Fisker | Got so fucked last night |
| 17:38.39 | Fisker | Walked for 6 miles, was at 2 dinners and stayed up until like 2:30 because Torhal peer pressured me |
| 17:38.46 | Ressy | uh huh |
| 17:38.56 | Gnarfoz | haha, I know what that's like, Fisker |
| 17:38.57 | Rythal | i'm sure he really twisted your arm |
| 17:39.03 | Ressy | Torhal's like... nothing for peer pressure compared to others there. |
| 17:39.04 | Gnarfoz | Rythal: with cats. |
| 17:39.07 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 17:39.09 | fewyn | PEEER PRESSURE IS REAL |
| 17:39.17 | Fisker | He asked me if I stayed :( |
| 17:39.48 | Gnarfoz | wanna go to IHOP? at 12 am? :P |
| 17:40.07 | fewyn | ihop is the best hop |
| 17:40.17 | Fisker | At that point I'm at blizzcon I think |
| 17:40.26 | fewyn | i'm still in ohio |
| 17:40.38 | Gnarfoz | at 12 am BlizzCon is many hours over, Fisker |
| 17:40.54 | Gnarfoz | remember, they have weird clocks over there |
| 17:40.55 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 17:41.18 | Ressy | o.O |
| 17:41.21 | Rythal | last time someone actually posted gps to hangouts I checked how long it would take me to get there.. only 38 hours driving! :P |
| 17:41.46 | Ressy | I think Kaelten & Thordurin are probably the worst for the "keep drinking". |
| 17:41.50 | Gnarfoz | I could do that, it would probably tell me to swim the Atlantic |
| 17:41.59 | fewyn | i wonder what time ups does deliveries in this area |
| 17:42.10 | Gnarfoz | fewyn: I can tell you: when you're not there |
| 17:42.16 | fewyn | i hope not :( |
| 17:42.30 | Gnarfoz | I'm fairly sure that's their MO |
| 17:42.39 | Ressy | Mine shipped Wednesday, got mine at 1040am yesterday. |
| 17:42.55 | Rythal | I got mine at 1pm yesterday |
| 17:43.22 | Rythal | tho I need to check again, but i'm fairly sure I have never been charged on my visa for it.. |
| 17:43.41 | fewyn | you should have been charged like 3 months ago |
| 17:43.44 | fewyn | when you ordered it |
| 17:44.00 | fewyn | that's when i got charged |
| 17:44.10 | Gnarfoz | dat setup https://twitter.com/_Wallenstein/status/662685772198248449 |
| 17:44.17 | Fisker | I think I'm going to the curse thing Gnarfoz |
| 17:44.17 | Rythal | I remember the blizzcon v-ticket being on it, but not the gearstore and I figured they would invoice when shipped |
| 17:44.26 | Ressy | I got the email that it shipped yesterday afternoon. |
| 17:44.40 | Ressy | after I already had it. lol |
| 17:44.45 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: beware of the alcohols. :D |
| 17:45.21 | Fisker | Yeah I don't alcohols |
| 17:48.54 | Shirik | And one church has given a charged response to some proposals, saying that a bike lane near its property would infringe upon âits constitutionally protected rights of religious freedom and equal protection of the laws.â |
| 17:48.58 | Shirik | what |
| 17:49.31 | Rythal | speaking of church... have the protesters shown up yet |
| 17:50.21 | Shirik | have the cosplayers of the protesters shown up yet? |
| 17:50.39 | Gnarfoz | they need another level on top of that |
| 17:50.41 | Gnarfoz | somehow. |
| 17:52.31 | tlund | is the preshow on the stream supposed to start in 8 minutes? or 38? |
| 17:52.59 | Gnarfoz | There's a pre-show? |
| 17:53.44 | Gnarfoz | I was going to watch something else in the remaining hour until showtime, don't scare me like that |
| 17:54.43 | nevcairiel | its usually pointless chatter from the hosts |
| 17:54.58 | nevcairiel | and maybe the old trailers or something |
| 17:55.21 | Gnarfoz | Most likely |
| 17:55.59 | Rythal | I'm watching someone with a cam live streaming his walking around the con heh |
| 17:56.09 | tlund | previous years, the hosts started talking 30 or 60 minutes before the opening |
| 17:56.18 | tlund | the direct-tv hosts |
| 17:56.38 | nevcairiel | Rythal: tell him to stream the engineering panel in the community area |
| 17:56.47 | Rythal | the darkmoon faire actually looks pretty cool |
| 17:58.19 | tlund | Rythal: URL? :) |
| 17:58.29 | Rythal | http://www.twitch.tv/seriousgaming |
| 18:15.28 | tlund | Stream is live for me now! |
| 18:17.05 | tlund | (blizzcon logo + music only) |
| 18:17.59 | nevcairiel | it kinda died again |
| 18:18.04 | nevcairiel | or keeps dying |
| 18:18.32 | VIad | seems like I can sit in my living room and watch blizzcon with friends this year http://ss.bool.no/capture_1446833903.png |
| 18:20.16 | VIad | http://store.steampowered.com/app/286160 |
| 18:21.47 | fewyn | i just made 5lbs of turkey meatballs (filled with cornbread stuffing) |
| 18:25.17 | Gnarfoz | fewyn: send them to my sofa |
| 18:30.25 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: http://www.kaufnekuh.de |
| 18:30.54 | tlund | starting now! |
| 18:32.52 | nevcairiel | main stage has no sound, heh |
| 18:33.21 | Rythal | the stream? I have sound |
| 18:33.34 | nevcairiel | the other streams do, just main stage doesnt |
| 18:33.41 | Rythal | odd.. that's the one i'm on |
| 18:33.59 | tlund | i have sound on main stage stream |
| 18:34.06 | tlund | directv-hosts chitchatting |
| 18:34.21 | nevcairiel | all show the same content anyway |
| 18:34.22 | nevcairiel | but still |
| 18:34.26 | nevcairiel | restart browser, no fix |
| 18:34.37 | fewyn | huh |
| 18:34.39 | fewyn | no audio |
| 18:34.51 | fewyn | let's try edge |
| 18:34.54 | nevcairiel | apparently i r not alone |
| 18:36.20 | fewyn | panels stage gets sound |
| 18:36.22 | fewyn | right now nevcairiel |
| 18:36.25 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 18:36.28 | nevcairiel | but main stage doesnt |
| 18:36.35 | VIad | hence why we started 30 min before the launch to fix bugs :D |
| 18:36.37 | fewyn | yeah all streams will have the opening ceremony |
| 18:36.50 | nevcairiel | its still alarming, i want to watch afterwards too :p |
| 18:36.59 | Rythal | hopefully in the 30 mins between opening and first panel when they switch to paywall it'll fix for you |
| 18:37.06 | nevcairiel | now main stage shows offline |
| 18:37.18 | nevcairiel | hm all do |
| 18:37.19 | fewyn | a little surprise? |
| 18:37.22 | Ressy | o.O |
| 18:37.23 | *** join/#wowuidev harl (~harl@unaffiliated/harl) |
| 18:37.23 | Ressy | odd |
| 18:37.27 | fewyn | what's she talking about |
| 18:37.32 | Rythal | I want myu surprise! |
| 18:37.33 | Rythal | now! |
| 18:37.57 | nevcairiel | stream offline entirely apparently |
| 18:38.05 | Rythal | just died for me during the hearthstone vid |
| 18:38.20 | VIad | nevcairiel: seems like the tabletop shows video but no sound :< |
| 18:38.39 | nevcairiel | esports channels are still on, main and panel is off |
| 18:38.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressia (~Ressy@TOROON6126W-LP130-03-1177975036.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 18:38.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressia (~Ressy@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Ressy) |
| 18:40.54 | VIad | the CC option is like youtube CC when it was new :P |
| 18:41.03 | nevcairiel | non-functional? |
| 18:41.09 | VIad | mostly yes |
| 18:41.14 | VIad | the text is going nuts |
| 18:41.20 | VIad | timing at least |
| 18:41.31 | VIad | here owes of the storm |
| 18:41.31 | VIad | :D |
| 18:42.01 | VIad | its not bad if its real time translated but its a bit delayed and it can get iffy to read |
| 18:42.14 | nevcairiel | i cant even turn it on |
| 18:42.16 | VIad | :o |
| 18:42.25 | Rythal | you've been banned from blizzcon! |
| 18:42.26 | VIad | need to grab my washed clothes in 10 min damn it |
| 18:42.54 | Gnarfoz | That's just plain bad planning, VIad |
| 18:43.06 | VIad | I need clean clothes man |
| 18:43.20 | nevcairiel | but not 8 minutes before blizzcon opening |
| 18:43.25 | Rythal | whadya need clothes for during the next 48 hours |
| 18:43.25 | nevcairiel | rather be naked than away! |
| 18:43.42 | VIad | asked my wife to do my laundry but she never answered |
| 18:43.44 | nevcairiel | ah main stage is back with sound |
| 18:44.24 | Rythal | I'm surprised there isn't more hooha about it being the 10th anniversary of blizzcon |
| 18:44.36 | fewyn | same |
| 18:46.21 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz did you buy virtual ticket now? |
| 18:47.50 | VIad | got a random steam friend invite from the same user I declined twice, accepted to ask why he is stalking me, told me he wants me to join some tournament, instantly unfriended :p |
| 18:48.02 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:48.08 | VIad | wonder what kind of scam that is. "just give me your credit card so I can make the hotel reservation" probably |
| 18:49.04 | VIad | how are they previewing the costume contest when it hasnt happened? |
| 18:49.06 | *** join/#wowuidev harl (~harl@unaffiliated/harl) |
| 18:49.13 | VIad | blizz got a time machine |
| 18:49.36 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I did |
| 18:50.08 | VIad | I hope the CC arent manually written, damn, ought to be tiresome. |
| 18:50.22 | VIad | would explain the typos but still kind of accurate a lot of the time. |
| 18:51.26 | VIad | btw fallout4 was smart, releasing on monday |
| 18:51.35 | VIad | black ops 3 not so much, since I wont be playing it, since blizzcon :p |
| 18:51.47 | VIad | and once fallout4 is out and blizzcon ends no more time for black ops 3 |
| 18:51.54 | nevcairiel | there are people that are skilled with quickly typing the spoken language |
| 18:51.57 | nevcairiel | so its likely manually typed |
| 18:52.14 | VIad | yeah. but imagine your fingers. after some hours :< |
| 18:52.21 | nevcairiel | its their job |
| 18:52.30 | VIad | sounds tiresome :( |
| 18:52.32 | nevcairiel | they do that for other live events in tv and stuff |
| 18:53.18 | VIad | imagine when the diarrhea strikes |
| 18:53.33 | Gnarfoz | pfff fingers are easy, just get a proper keyboard :P |
| 18:53.40 | Gnarfoz | main stage off air? :K |
| 18:53.43 | Rythal | wow... the giant whelping is up to $560 already |
| 18:53.51 | VIad | I am in EU and no issues with the stream |
| 18:55.06 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i'm on tourney B and didnt get any problems |
| 18:55.26 | VIad | damn didnt expect trump not to make it tbh |
| 18:55.50 | Gnarfoz | that shows hearthstone 5 minutes before show start, but... ok? |
| 18:55.55 | Gnarfoz | ah, that's just a clip or smth |
| 18:56.01 | nevcairiel | its just intro |
| 18:56.05 | Gnarfoz | back to the sofa it is! |
| 18:56.14 | Rythal | I was surprised hotform did make it |
| 18:58.08 | nevcairiel | hm twitch is like 20s before the blizzcon website stream |
| 18:58.16 | nevcairiel | 20s earlier information! |
| 18:58.51 | Rythal | good to know... if the real stream starts cutting out like it has every other year for me i'll jump over there |
| 18:59.27 | karl_w_w | linky? :D |
| 19:00.32 | fewyn | :hype: |
| 19:00.37 | karl_w_w | nevcairiel |
| 19:00.45 | VIad | laundry retrieved. 5 sec on the countdown. |
| 19:00.48 | VIad | stream stopped - awesome |
| 19:00.49 | VIad | :D |
| 19:00.53 | nevcairiel | http://www.twitch.tv/blizzard |
| 19:01.02 | karl_w_w | SeemsGood |
| 19:01.17 | VIad | nice. yes works. |
| 19:01.52 | *** join/#wowuidev harl (~harl@unaffiliated/harl) |
| 19:01.58 | Rythal | ORcs in space! |
| 19:02.03 | karl_w_w | interpolated to 60 fps Kreygasm |
| 19:02.04 | VIad | I'd buy that |
| 19:02.59 | karl_w_w | apparently watching esports is intense |
| 19:03.13 | VIad | torhal |
| 19:03.19 | VIad | didnt know he would be on blizzcon |
| 19:03.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: twitch better? Do I need to get my ass off the sofa to switch? |
| 19:03.56 | VIad | twitch hasnt lagged yet for me |
| 19:03.58 | nevcairiel | its fluid and high quality |
| 19:04.01 | nevcairiel | and 20s less lag |
| 19:04.02 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:04.04 | VIad | yes |
| 19:04.13 | VIad | odd how blizz internal stream paid service is more behind |
| 19:04.31 | Rythal | twitch stream seems live.. or close to it, instead of delayed |
| 19:04.33 | karl_w_w | you can have it with even less lag by using livestreamer with --hls-live-edge 0 |
| 19:05.05 | karl_w_w | yay, time to watch mike try so hard to not breakdown in tears |
| 19:05.09 | karl_w_w | it's a tradition |
| 19:05.19 | fewyn | IT IS TRADITION |
| 19:06.19 | VIad | karl_w_w: "no streams found" :S |
| 19:06.34 | Gnarfoz | Twitch trying hard not to break down in tears, too |
| 19:06.40 | karl_w_w | its on warcraft or starcraft streams |
| 19:06.46 | nevcairiel | twitch seems perfect to me |
| 19:06.47 | karl_w_w | blizzard is just hosting other streams |
| 19:07.13 | VIad | ah I see |
| 19:07.29 | Rythal | Here comes the HD remake announcement? |
| 19:07.42 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure their interpolation is good, Mike's face seems jittery :-P |
| 19:07.54 | karl_w_w | the interpolation is mine :P |
| 19:08.14 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: no? Twitch is sending at 60 fps |
| 19:08.16 | karl_w_w | http://www.svp-team.com/ |
| 19:08.20 | karl_w_w | no, its at 30 |
| 19:08.26 | karl_w_w | well, 29.97 actually |
| 19:08.29 | Gnarfoz | My video stats show something else |
| 19:08.39 | nevcairiel | 60 here too |
| 19:08.44 | karl_w_w | oh |
| 19:08.47 | fewyn | i love morhaime speeches |
| 19:08.48 | karl_w_w | yeah if ur watching source |
| 19:08.55 | karl_w_w | my internet can't do source |
| 19:08.58 | Gnarfoz | Also, 29.97 is ass backwards stupid, but that's not a discussion for right now |
| 19:09.01 | fewyn | ooo |
| 19:09.03 | fewyn | new charity pet |
| 19:09.04 | VIad | source rocks |
| 19:09.05 | fewyn | mana kitty |
| 19:09.26 | VIad | karl_w_w: sweet I am like just 5 sec behind live probably :D |
| 19:09.28 | karl_w_w | heroes of the yawn |
| 19:09.37 | VIad | when fewyn said mana kitty it was like a min ago for me |
| 19:09.43 | fewyn | :( |
| 19:09.48 | fewyn | rip my stream |
| 19:09.49 | Gnarfoz | He's not on site |
| 19:09.56 | VIad | I am using livestreamer |
| 19:09.57 | fewyn | i'm here in ohio |
| 19:09.59 | VIad | and watching it on VLC |
| 19:10.01 | Rythal | damnit.. lol.. i'm behind all of you, when he said mana kitty I didn't see it for like 15 seconds |
| 19:10.02 | fewyn | i'm watching it on the website |
| 19:10.13 | VIad | website is actually most behind |
| 19:10.16 | nevcairiel | twitch is the closest to live without manual hackery |
| 19:10.16 | Ressy | sniffles |
| 19:10.25 | Ressy | I teared up when he said happy anniversary to people. |
| 19:10.26 | fewyn | DEAL WITH IT BROSPEHS |
| 19:10.37 | fewyn | i've met all my close friends because of blizzard |
| 19:10.50 | Rythal | I've met all my mortal enemies from blizzard! |
| 19:10.51 | Gnarfoz | He's so giddy, it's a joy to watch |
| 19:11.18 | VIad | future of sc2 |
| 19:11.29 | Rythal | 4th expansion! |
| 19:11.29 | VIad | "coming on android and ios" |
| 19:11.42 | karl_w_w | ur probably ahead of my Rythal, mine lagged out for a bit :P |
| 19:12.03 | Rythal | i'm just making crazy guesses :P |
| 19:12.09 | VIad | same |
| 19:12.13 | fewyn | i was like |
| 19:12.16 | fewyn | what |
| 19:12.19 | karl_w_w | legacy of the roids |
| 19:12.57 | karl_w_w | literally never played starcraft in mine life :P |
| 19:13.04 | VIad | its awesome, karl_w_w |
| 19:13.10 | fewyn | i've yet to beat heart of the swarm campaign |
| 19:13.14 | VIad | maybe its time for you to play it all :p |
| 19:13.15 | fewyn | i own a copy of it tho |
| 19:13.38 | Rythal | I've been meaning to replay the original 2 campaigns before Nov 10th.. but damn if I can find the time |
| 19:13.41 | fewyn | my life for aiuuuur |
| 19:13.42 | Gnarfoz | Actually, I could use a stream that's just 30 fps, I'm feeding my TV at 2160p@30Hz |
| 19:14.02 | karl_w_w | I'm sure he said ire not aiuuuur :P |
| 19:14.16 | fewyn | did he? |
| 19:14.21 | fewyn | i don't know how to spell |
| 19:14.28 | Gnarfoz | Or I could feed it 1080p and let it handle upscaling |
| 19:14.40 | Gnarfoz | Aiur is the correct spelling |
| 19:14.47 | karl_w_w | is there a youtube stream? |
| 19:14.56 | fewyn | oh i did spell it right |
| 19:14.57 | VIad | starcraft future: mission packs -- you heard it first from me |
| 19:14.58 | fewyn | i thought i did |
| 19:14.59 | Rythal | my tv is 720p.. so I stream it at 1080 then let it downscale lol |
| 19:15.22 | fewyn | and VIad was right |
| 19:15.26 | Gnarfoz | Nova |
| 19:15.32 | karl_w_w | youtube usually has the best quality cos it has like a 5000 kbps limit instead of twitch's 3500 |
| 19:15.50 | Gnarfoz | Twitch is at 4 mbits |
| 19:16.09 | Gnarfoz | Also, no such limits for partners, which Blizzard surely is |
| 19:16.16 | Rythal | ugh.. they are finding ways to micro transaction every game now... |
| 19:16.29 | VIad | probably like the episodical games |
| 19:16.32 | fewyn | oh hey my goodie bag just got here |
| 19:16.40 | VIad | buy season pass to access all 4 episodes over the span of a year |
| 19:19.44 | fewyn | the messenger bag is better quality than i expected |
| 19:20.54 | VIad | wheatooon! |
| 19:21.02 | VIad | sheldons arc nemesis |
| 19:21.17 | VIad | arch* |
| 19:21.30 | karl_w_w | good friend* |
| 19:21.34 | fewyn | my vinyl was stealthed nova |
| 19:22.53 | Rythal | damn you |
| 19:23.23 | Gnarfoz | It's better at 1080p@60, but since I had to reload Twitch, it's now buffering like mad |
| 19:23.23 | VIad | ragnar |
| 19:23.28 | Rythal | and I agree on the bag, it's now my laptop bag |
| 19:23.35 | VIad | livestreamer http://www.twitch.tv/starcraft source --hls-live-edge 1 |
| 19:23.39 | Rythal | was better padded then my caselogic one heh |
| 19:23.45 | VIad | karl_w_w: hls 0 didn't work it errored, said 1 is minimum |
| 19:23.51 | karl_w_w | hmm |
| 19:25.04 | Gnarfoz | Trailer time |
| 19:25.18 | fewyn | oh god |
| 19:25.20 | fewyn | looks amazing |
| 19:25.24 | fewyn | just like it did last year |
| 19:26.03 | VIad | orcs and humans can't speak because orcish and common faction language barrier |
| 19:26.05 | VIad | 0/10 |
| 19:26.17 | fewyn | lol |
| 19:26.23 | VIad | ofc lore wise there is no language barrier :p |
| 19:26.34 | VIad | looks good. |
| 19:26.52 | VIad | lets hope its not just the trailer |
| 19:27.26 | Gnarfoz | Ice cream time |
| 19:27.40 | Rythal | I'm sure it's like most movies and they just showed everything good in that 2 minutes |
| 19:27.48 | VIad | :D |
| 19:27.54 | VIad | all the eye candy and best lines in the trailer |
| 19:27.56 | Gnarfoz | Did he forget to eat since last time |
| 19:27.57 | karl_w_w | where's the skip button? |
| 19:28.17 | Gnarfoz | VIad: trailers 101 |
| 19:28.30 | fewyn | at least they didn't actually spoil them movie |
| 19:28.51 | Rythal | I saw human / orc romance... that spoils it |
| 19:28.52 | karl_w_w | because the story is a big secret? :D |
| 19:29.01 | fewyn | exactly |
| 19:29.20 | karl_w_w | the arena |
| 19:29.25 | karl_w_w | is already in HS :P |
| 19:29.56 | Gnarfoz | Rythal: that would be Garona, so not as much romance as betrayal and murder :-D |
| 19:30.07 | karl_w_w | aka -ardu |
| 19:30.17 | karl_w_w | 10 year old game mode :P |
| 19:30.27 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: for garona to exist there had to be some sort of "relations" between humans and orcs =p |
| 19:30.45 | Gnarfoz | She's half draenei |
| 19:30.52 | Gnarfoz | Some retcon there, too |
| 19:30.52 | nevcairiel | not in the movie |
| 19:30.59 | karl_w_w | oh it's single draft not all random :P |
| 19:31.02 | nevcairiel | half orc half human |
| 19:31.12 | nevcairiel | single draft is fine |
| 19:31.21 | Rythal | Draenei don't exist in the movie universe... just as no elves, gnomes, dwarves, tauren.... |
| 19:31.33 | VIad | explains why no new bg games in wow, all focus is on hots :p |
| 19:31.49 | Gnarfoz | It's Warcraft 1 era, so, yeah |
| 19:32.16 | VIad | spoint |
| 19:32.19 | VIad | spoink* |
| 19:32.24 | VIad | "you know what I love? everything!" |
| 19:33.53 | Rythal | two players as one hero? omg |
| 19:33.55 | Gnarfoz | Lol |
| 19:34.02 | Gnarfoz | That's gonna be fun |
| 19:34.03 | Maldivia | that's going to be interesting |
| 19:34.03 | znf | ok that last one was funny |
| 19:34.06 | VIad | its just shared unit control |
| 19:34.06 | znf | with the mount on top |
| 19:34.18 | VIad | so both players spam and quickest spammer makes it go closer to where you click |
| 19:34.28 | nevcairiel | i bet its smarter than that |
| 19:34.47 | znf | please let it carry the mount on the shoulders |
| 19:34.48 | znf | please |
| 19:34.50 | Maldivia | two players... one hero... one from each side? :D |
| 19:35.10 | fewyn | oh sweet |
| 19:35.11 | Gnarfoz | Stop buffering, Twitch :-[ |
| 19:35.16 | fewyn | cho'gall is free for virtual ticket people |
| 19:35.20 | VIad | chogal is like a std, party up to get chogal unlocked. |
| 19:35.21 | karl_w_w | wow a free hero? |
| 19:35.31 | karl_w_w | that's never been done before! |
| 19:35.33 | VIad | ofc with someone with the chogal std |
| 19:35.43 | znf | karl_w_w, "free hero" exclusive to blizzcon |
| 19:35.52 | znf | didn't they just mentioned that you can't get it otherwise? |
| 19:35.56 | nevcairiel | no |
| 19:35.57 | VIad | oh I got it, WTS chogal 100⬠|
| 19:35.59 | znf | no shop, no gold, no money? |
| 19:36.00 | nevcairiel | they just explained how you get it |
| 19:36.09 | fewyn | that's cool |
| 19:36.10 | znf | I was paying attention to another channel |
| 19:36.12 | Gnarfoz | Prepare for the hordes of "slap in the face" complaints |
| 19:36.12 | znf | just missed the "no gold" part |
| 19:36.18 | nevcairiel | you can play with someone that has it, and after 2 games it unlocks for you |
| 19:36.29 | znf | did I get the "can't buy it" part? |
| 19:36.40 | nevcairiel | yes thats correct |
| 19:36.45 | Gnarfoz | Hm, my stream must have buffered so much, I'm now far behind you, nevcairiel |
| 19:36.58 | Simca | it's a virally spreading hero. blizzcon viewers are patient 0. |
| 19:37.00 | Simca | lol |
| 19:37.01 | znf | yup |
| 19:37.02 | znf | cool |
| 19:37.25 | Rythal | give it a week after release, it'll be on everyone's account and spread that much |
| 19:37.25 | fewyn | that's kinda cool way to do it |
| 19:37.37 | karl_w_w | i wasnt paying enough attention, do you have to be the other person playing him with the owner or just in the game? |
| 19:37.39 | znf | yeah, we'll see |
| 19:37.46 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: other person |
| 19:38.00 | znf | so I have it, nevcairiel doesn't, he plays with me a few games, he gets it |
| 19:38.01 | znf | :P |
| 19:38.05 | karl_w_w | it wont spread that fast then |
| 19:38.07 | nevcairiel | but i do have it |
| 19:38.09 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:38.20 | VIad | it hit me, in some years mike and the guys will be old timers, who will keep pushing blizz to make good games? |
| 19:38.31 | znf | meh, hearthstone |
| 19:38.37 | Rythal | Lets do arena... 2 cho'gals and a healer! |
| 19:38.39 | znf | time to look at that nginx config again |
| 19:39.08 | karl_w_w | that bridge already came and went a long time ago VIad, the answer turned out to be that nobody is going to push blizz to make good games :P |
| 19:39.26 | VIad | the league of explores adventure |
| 19:39.42 | fewyn | this is hillarious |
| 19:40.03 | Gnarfoz | What the he'll Twitch |
| 19:40.06 | Rythal | man.. I haven't finished blackrock yet, nevermind a new adventure lol |
| 19:40.25 | VIad | where is our harrison jones? |
| 19:40.37 | Rythal | He's already a card, so they can't use him |
| 19:40.39 | Gnarfoz | It just went black and jumped ahead to live, 5 seconds after the beginning of the Hearthstone adventure clip |
| 19:40.45 | VIad | ragnaris is a boss and he is also a card |
| 19:40.48 | VIad | ragnaros* |
| 19:40.50 | karl_w_w | are you using livestreamer Gnarfoz? |
| 19:41.01 | Gnarfoz | I'm using Twitch |
| 19:41.07 | znf | no blizzcon ticket? |
| 19:41.10 | VIad | new mechanic - discover |
| 19:41.21 | Gnarfoz | znf: official Stream is worse |
| 19:41.28 | znf | oh, works fine here |
| 19:41.41 | VIad | when you play a card with discover, it will basically be like a hunter deck finder card thingy |
| 19:41.58 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: I hope that describes how your question makes no sense to me :-D |
| 19:42.05 | karl_w_w | [RNGstone intensifies] |
| 19:42.26 | karl_w_w | livestreamer is a command line tool that opens live streams and pipes them to the media player of your choice |
| 19:42.28 | VIad | more hunter face decks maybe |
| 19:42.47 | Rythal | ranked players already complaining the game is too rng.. answer.. add more rng |
| 19:42.47 | VIad | also you can find elise starseeker as card |
| 19:42.58 | VIad | so the harrison jones is a card so he cant be used is not a reason :p |
| 19:43.00 | Gnarfoz | Let me guess, you left out a "... on Linux" there? |
| 19:43.09 | karl_w_w | any OS |
| 19:43.24 | Gnarfoz | He needs to stop making weird noises :-D |
| 19:43.36 | karl_w_w | I wonder what it is that does that |
| 19:43.46 | karl_w_w | is it some indicator of mild autism? |
| 19:43.57 | Rythal | VIad, it's my guess that each wing headed by one of the adventurers.. gives you that adventurer as reward for finishing it |
| 19:44.06 | Rythal | which is why no harrison since he's already a card |
| 19:44.18 | VIad | but he could still be a hero character |
| 19:44.21 | karl_w_w | [RNGstone intensifies further] |
| 19:44.30 | Gnarfoz | Autism? He probably just doesn't realize his mic is picking it up |
| 19:44.39 | karl_w_w | nah he always does that |
| 19:44.54 | *** join/#wowuidev fatguylaughing (~fatguylau@worx01.worxco.net) |
| 19:45.20 | VIad | league of explorers comming this year |
| 19:45.33 | karl_w_w | december 31st confirmed |
| 19:45.33 | VIad | in november |
| 19:45.38 | VIad | so soon |
| 19:45.46 | karl_w_w | damn :( |
| 19:45.49 | karl_w_w | joke ruined |
| 19:45.52 | VIad | this thursday |
| 19:45.53 | fewyn | well it's not like it's hard to make new cards |
| 19:45.54 | VIad | sorry karl_ |
| 19:46.14 | fewyn | lol |
| 19:46.17 | fewyn | next thursday |
| 19:46.40 | Rythal | wow... I was not expecting that soon |
| 19:46.47 | Ressy | yea |
| 19:46.53 | nevcairiel | hs adventures arent that particular special |
| 19:47.02 | nevcairiel | they just release them with a website post otherwise |
| 19:47.03 | fewyn | ^ |
| 19:47.06 | VIad | nevcairiel: its a easy way to spend 20⬠|
| 19:47.07 | Gnarfoz | Big 'ole titties on stage |
| 19:47.21 | Ressy | o.O |
| 19:47.28 | karl_w_w | anyway yes, livestreamer is good because you can set it to use multiple connections for the stream which is much more stable |
| 19:47.38 | Ressy | LMFAO |
| 19:47.39 | Gnarfoz | (you do know why his handle is Tigole) |
| 19:47.43 | Ressy | oh my god |
| 19:47.56 | Ressy | Well.. At least they can talk about the leaks |
| 19:49.01 | VIad | still waiting for my overwatch beta invite |
| 19:49.19 | VIad | 3 new heroes and new map |
| 19:49.28 | Gnarfoz | You need better contacts, VIad |
| 19:49.36 | VIad | :< |
| 19:51.34 | fewyn | junkrat reminds me of demoman |
| 19:51.36 | fewyn | from tf2 |
| 19:51.41 | Gnarfoz | Goldshire pictures |
| 19:52.13 | fewyn | lol |
| 19:52.21 | Gnarfoz | Nice |
| 19:52.21 | VIad | something made me think of big hero 6 when I saw the new heroes |
| 19:52.23 | fewyn | man |
| 19:52.29 | fewyn | why can't i get into overwatch |
| 19:52.37 | fewyn | yeah big hero 6 is the def vibe i get VIad |
| 19:52.40 | Gnarfoz | Ninja dude |
| 19:52.45 | fewyn | hanzo |
| 19:52.57 | fewyn | genji |
| 19:53.04 | VIad | well overwatch is more than just tf2 |
| 19:53.09 | Gnarfoz | He was on previous posters |
| 19:53.14 | VIad | the heroes are more versitile |
| 19:53.23 | VIad | not just hats making them look different |
| 19:53.28 | nevcairiel | there is also far more heroes |
| 19:53.33 | VIad | definetly |
| 19:53.37 | VIad | tf2 has like what, 6 classes? |
| 19:53.41 | nevcairiel | 8 i think |
| 19:53.46 | VIad | so 8 "heroes" |
| 19:53.59 | fewyn | there's way more than 8 |
| 19:54.00 | Gnarfoz | Ah, new revised lineup pic |
| 19:54.02 | fewyn | which is nice |
| 19:54.04 | fewyn | yeah |
| 19:54.29 | Gnarfoz | Green robot Ninja dude > genji |
| 19:54.34 | VIad | btw its 2100 for me so soon bed time |
| 19:54.37 | VIad | I guess this started at noon for you |
| 19:54.46 | fewyn | started at 2pm here |
| 19:54.47 | Gnarfoz | Also WTB new beta build with those heroes |
| 19:55.01 | Rythal | WTB me into beta before a new build |
| 19:55.06 | Gnarfoz | But BlizzCon probably gets the alpha branch employees get to play |
| 19:55.13 | Gnarfoz | D |
| 19:55.20 | Gnarfoz | D.va is months old |
| 19:55.25 | karl_w_w | buy |
| 19:55.26 | karl_w_w | wow |
| 19:55.29 | VIad | odd name choice |
| 19:55.34 | karl_w_w | they just killed half the playerbase |
| 19:55.34 | VIad | punctuation |
| 19:55.34 | fewyn | when you BUY overwatch |
| 19:55.39 | Gnarfoz | Yes, did you not Internet today? |
| 19:55.54 | Gnarfoz | Several of the editions you can buy leaked |
| 19:55.55 | fewyn | yes |
| 19:55.58 | fewyn | i did not internet |
| 19:56.04 | Rythal | It's been known for a while, PC, PS4, XBone... buy.. comes with tracer for hots |
| 19:56.05 | fewyn | i woke up and went out and did things |
| 19:56.07 | fewyn | then came home |
| 19:56.10 | fewyn | oh |
| 19:56.11 | Rythal | well at least 24 hours |
| 19:56.12 | fewyn | interesting |
| 19:56.17 | Gnarfoz | Well, your today just started, I guess |
| 19:56.36 | fewyn | i get to go do overtime tonight |
| 19:56.41 | fewyn | at work |
| 19:56.45 | Gnarfoz | Brrr, Twitch is buffering like mad now, might as well switch to official stream |
| 19:56.47 | fewyn | in about 4 hours |
| 19:57.17 | karl_w_w | facepalms |
| 19:57.33 | karl_w_w | they cant just make a good game |
| 19:57.38 | nevcairiel | twitch still fine here Gnarfoz |
| 19:57.41 | fewyn | ? |
| 19:57.49 | fewyn | what's wrong karl_w_w ? |
| 19:57.51 | VIad | if hots taught you anything, skins is the new microtransactions for blizz |
| 19:57.57 | VIad | not that big of a surprise |
| 19:58.02 | fewyn | skins is a micro in any new game |
| 19:58.04 | Rythal | skins and promo's in every other game |
| 19:58.06 | fewyn | going to have to live with it |
| 19:58.31 | VIad | baby winston pet for wow |
| 19:58.33 | fewyn | mercy wings :D |
| 19:58.34 | VIad | now I need to buy it |
| 19:58.38 | fewyn | just for that |
| 19:58.48 | Gnarfoz | Mhhh, Blizzard stream is a lot more blocky :-| |
| 19:58.54 | Rythal | Tracer and baby winston |
| 19:59.05 | nevcairiel | baby winston is awesome |
| 19:59.22 | VIad | I hope it is cross platform |
| 19:59.26 | fewyn | how much is origin edition? |
| 19:59.27 | VIad | so PC can own the console gamers |
| 19:59.32 | Rythal | never happen |
| 19:59.40 | Gnarfoz | It's pc xbox and PS |
| 19:59.47 | fewyn | that's nice |
| 19:59.48 | nevcairiel | console gets auto-aim usually, so balancing PC vs. console is very hard |
| 20:00.00 | karl_w_w | i assume the pools will be split |
| 20:00.12 | Gnarfoz | They usually are |
| 20:00.13 | karl_w_w | otherwise console weirdos will get wrecked |
| 20:00.32 | Gnarfoz | Amazon had the CE for likey120$ |
| 20:00.41 | VIad | buyoverwatch.com is not online still |
| 20:00.49 | Rythal | I would rather a multi-platform release for once.. instead of having to buy mutliple copies |
| 20:00.53 | VIad | ah its up now |
| 20:00.54 | karl_w_w | it was probably online for about 2 seconds |
| 20:00.57 | Rythal | like portal 2 was :| |
| 20:01.00 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/buy/ |
| 20:01.18 | znf | http://buyoverwatch.com/ is dead |
| 20:01.25 | fewyn | i'll buy it at the end of the month |
| 20:01.25 | VIad | https://eu.battle.net/shop/en/product/overwatch-origins |
| 20:01.29 | nevcairiel | pre-ordered origins at amazon =p |
| 20:01.38 | VIad | for EU = https://eu.battle.net/shop/en/checkout/buy/20990 |
| 20:01.44 | fewyn | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/overwatch-collectors-edition-windows/4710500.p?id=bb4710500&skuId=4710500 |
| 20:01.45 | fewyn | 129.99 |
| 20:01.56 | fewyn | http://www.amazon.com/dp/B017L187X2 |
| 20:02.13 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: does Twitch do IPv6? |
| 20:02.17 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: dunno |
| 20:02.34 | VIad | hope I wrote the correct cvv2 number lol |
| 20:02.44 | karl_w_w | the price for collector's edition isn't shown on the site? |
| 20:03.04 | Gnarfoz | Seems like he found his coke stash this year |
| 20:03.09 | karl_w_w | I am actually amazed they are selling overwatch as a full priced game |
| 20:03.26 | Gnarfoz | Can't have all games be free, I guess |
| 20:03.27 | karl_w_w | I can't quite wrap my head around it |
| 20:03.39 | Gnarfoz | Maybe it's a ruse |
| 20:03.44 | VIad | the webpage timed out but I got a mail confirming my purchase :p |
| 20:03.45 | VIad | hurray |
| 20:04.30 | Rythal | Man.. I don't want a box or a dvd... they need to let me order it from the blizzard client |
| 20:05.07 | nevcairiel | you can order digital |
| 20:05.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: no idea, then... DTAG doesn't typically do the local caching server thing |
| 20:05.23 | nevcairiel | now mine started lagging too, thanks Gnarfoz :P |
| 20:05.25 | Rythal | yeah just saw that.. had to update |
| 20:05.32 | VIad | my source hasn't lagged yet |
| 20:05.32 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: you're welcome |
| 20:05.34 | fewyn | i'm going to wait to buy it later this month |
| 20:05.35 | karl_w_w | the legion invaded in BC as well :P |
| 20:05.37 | VIad | and I am EU :D |
| 20:05.39 | fewyn | no rush in buying it |
| 20:05.49 | fewyn | unless they announce you get beta |
| 20:06.14 | karl_w_w | if they did that it would just be a release |
| 20:06.26 | fewyn | yeah |
| 20:06.28 | fewyn | exactly |
| 20:06.56 | karl_w_w | they're actually selling a multiplayer-only game at full price |
| 20:07.04 | karl_w_w | nope, still doesn't make sense to me |
| 20:07.16 | fewyn | cod |
| 20:07.18 | fewyn | battlefield |
| 20:07.20 | fewyn | battlefront |
| 20:07.25 | nevcairiel | yeah thats common |
| 20:07.32 | fewyn | welcome to video games in 2015 |
| 20:07.36 | VIad | tf2 |
| 20:07.40 | VIad | no its f2p right |
| 20:07.42 | fewyn | tf2 is free |
| 20:07.44 | VIad | cost me cash when it came out :p |
| 20:07.46 | fewyn | you buy keys tho |
| 20:07.48 | nevcairiel | tf2 is free now, it was sold at first though |
| 20:07.48 | fewyn | yeah |
| 20:07.50 | fewyn | it was originally buy |
| 20:07.54 | Gnarfoz | They also have another multi-player only game that has a monthly subscription on top! |
| 20:07.56 | nevcairiel | but pretty cheap |
| 20:08.11 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i'm sure people would argue that they can also solo play that |
| 20:08.11 | fewyn | i think it was like 29.99? |
| 20:08.15 | fewyn | i bought it way back in the day |
| 20:08.22 | fewyn | like waaaay |
| 20:08.29 | VIad | but illidan was a bad guy too - considering the black temple trailer, what he did to it :( |
| 20:08.37 | VIad | unsure how he becomes a good guy suddenly |
| 20:08.42 | fewyn | yes but isn't this a new illidan? |
| 20:08.43 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: they are what made WoW what it is today :-\ |
| 20:08.47 | fewyn | like alternate time line one? |
| 20:08.58 | fewyn | i get lost |
| 20:09.06 | VIad | I thought he was frozen after we defeated him |
| 20:09.07 | Gnarfoz | Cinematic |
| 20:09.08 | VIad | that he didnt die |
| 20:09.16 | fewyn | intro cinemtiac! |
| 20:09.22 | Rythal | It's like DC universe.. and Azeroth one.. Azeroth two.. |
| 20:09.33 | fewyn | yeah |
| 20:09.51 | fewyn | surprised we're getting it this early tbqh |
| 20:10.01 | Gnarfoz | Varian got old |
| 20:10.04 | fewyn | oh shit new model for varian? |
| 20:10.08 | fewyn | for the cinematic |
| 20:10.11 | fewyn | def upgraded |
| 20:10.16 | fewyn | maybe using assets from the movie? |
| 20:10.21 | Gnarfoz | Nah |
| 20:10.29 | Gnarfoz | He's not in there as an adult |
| 20:10.31 | fewyn | this def looks /nicer/ than what we usually get |
| 20:10.36 | Gnarfoz | He's older |
| 20:10.46 | fewyn | maybe they just upped their game |
| 20:10.49 | Gnarfoz | As is Anduin, hopefully |
| 20:11.06 | Gnarfoz | Buffering! Aefgggjfkkf |
| 20:11.37 | karl_w_w | fire cannonballs at huge bats while your own fleet of ships is below? |
| 20:11.48 | karl_w_w | smart fellow this varian guy |
| 20:12.11 | VIad | wrynn is dead |
| 20:12.38 | Rythal | Varian and Sylvannas working together... oh boy another horde and alliance should be friends rainbows and unicorns expansion |
| 20:12.42 | relaxok | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19942706/ |
| 20:12.45 | relaxok | anybody heard about this? |
| 20:12.50 | relaxok | combat rogue is now 'outlaw' spec? |
| 20:12.59 | VIad | I didn't get goosebumps like draenor cinematic sadly |
| 20:13.07 | fewyn | probably a change in legion relaxok |
| 20:13.12 | fewyn | will be announced later today |
| 20:13.26 | znf | I prefer horde+alliance = friends |
| 20:13.32 | znf | I'm sick of "boo, your team sucks" |
| 20:13.38 | relaxok | fewyn im sure mos tpeople wont care but kinda hits me in the feelings when its my long-time main's spec |
| 20:13.42 | relaxok | that's the only spec name that changed |
| 20:13.50 | fewyn | i've main specced rogue for like |
| 20:13.51 | fewyn | 8 years? |
| 20:13.58 | fewyn | i'm still assassination |
| 20:14.11 | karl_w_w | the worst spec :P |
| 20:14.18 | Rythal | welp.. there's $200 spent now between the 2 pre-orders lol |
| 20:14.19 | fewyn | shut your mouth |
| 20:14.24 | fewyn | lol yeah Rythal |
| 20:14.33 | relaxok | changing a spec name after so long is just weird |
| 20:14.37 | relaxok | and uncomfortable |
| 20:14.39 | relaxok | oh well |
| 20:14.41 | Gnarfoz | Change is weird |
| 20:14.51 | relaxok | ;'( |
| 20:15.04 | VIad | wow stuff in 15 min |
| 20:15.10 | Rythal | Not a single word about D3 all opening ceremonies... it almost feels like the game is the ugly step child this blizzcon |
| 20:15.23 | relaxok | well it kinda is? |
| 20:15.26 | fewyn | to be honest it kinda is Rythal |
| 20:15.27 | znf | Rythal, they mentioned 2.4 |
| 20:15.30 | fewyn | i know it's disappointed |
| 20:15.31 | Semlar | they mentioned D3 more than once |
| 20:15.32 | fewyn | but yeah |
| 20:15.37 | Gnarfoz | I need to grab my power bank if I want to keep on annoying you from my phone |
| 20:15.46 | fewyn | 6 games and a movie |
| 20:15.59 | fewyn | they didn't make the joke |
| 20:16.00 | Semlar | they showed some D3 gameplay of a crusader with wings |
| 20:16.02 | fewyn | i'm DISSAPOINT |
| 20:16.10 | fewyn | mercy wings Semlar |
| 20:16.13 | Semlar | WINGS |
| 20:16.18 | fewyn | WIIIIINGS |
| 20:16.19 | Rythal | mercy wings.. that was overwatch :/ not d3 |
| 20:16.19 | Gnarfoz | D3 ded |
| 20:16.23 | VIad | karl_w_w: wow is paid right? livestreamer dont work with blizzcon stream :( |
| 20:16.36 | fewyn | yeah the rest of blizzcon is pain |
| 20:16.37 | fewyn | paid |
| 20:16.39 | Semlar | that was definitely D3 |
| 20:16.40 | fewyn | won't be on twitch |
| 20:16.46 | VIad | the blizzcon stream is a white page |
| 20:16.48 | VIad | because overload |
| 20:16.48 | relaxok | "Outlaw Rogues are the unscrupulous combatants of Azeroth. They bend the rules, change them, and put those who would stand against their âchoicesâ to task with The Dreadblades (Fate and Fortune). These blades are meant to cut deep in toe-to-toe combat." |
| 20:16.49 | VIad | ugh |
| 20:16.51 | relaxok | sooooo Combat then? |
| 20:16.53 | relaxok | >=( |
| 20:16.56 | karl_w_w | the competition streams are usually free |
| 20:17.07 | VIad | I paid for it |
| 20:17.07 | fewyn | yeah those are free |
| 20:17.07 | VIad | wanna watch wow in 15 min |
| 20:17.09 | VIad | but page broked |
| 20:17.12 | fewyn | sc2/wow/hearthstone etc |
| 20:17.20 | znf | is http://eu.battle.net/blizzcon/ broken for anyone else? |
| 20:17.22 | znf | I get a blank page |
| 20:17.32 | VIad | yes znf ^ been whining about that |
| 20:18.12 | VIad | servers are ddosed I guess |
| 20:18.33 | Rythal | wonder if I can pre-order explorers too while I still have my card out |
| 20:18.35 | VIad | its almost like it was totally unexpected that so many would watch it |
| 20:18.51 | VIad | if blizz only had some numbers so they could prepare to handle the load |
| 20:19.12 | VIad | I guess being their first time its natural stuff wont work like planned |
| 20:19.29 | Simca | First two minutes of Legion cinematic are purposefully similar to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU-n8UZM5Cc |
| 20:19.37 | Simca | love that |
| 20:19.55 | karl_w_w | lore has allowed his hair to become too much :P |
| 20:20.09 | VIad | too late for me to get my money back? |
| 20:20.16 | VIad | considering I can't watch the live wow stream since site is down :p |
| 20:21.20 | VIad | I guess TV broadcasts dont need to worry |
| 20:21.36 | Rythal | some day.. blizzard will have something for $3 or less so I can finally kill off my blizzard balance! |
| 20:21.36 | VIad | with this state of streaming live they won't need to worry being outcompetitioned :p |
| 20:21.55 | VIad | odd how the free stream, no problems, but as soon the free ended, their site died |
| 20:22.03 | VIad | maybe blizzcon should be on a separate host |
| 20:22.08 | VIad | probably the shop that killed it all |
| 20:22.09 | Gnarfoz | Simca: blame Terran and his guys |
| 20:22.20 | Rythal | US stream is still running fine, it's just the EU one |
| 20:22.38 | karl_w_w | not odd VIad, other people did the same thing you did |
| 20:22.42 | karl_w_w | = extra load :P |
| 20:22.46 | relaxok | Simca: man its amazing to go back to that isnt it? |
| 20:22.48 | Simca | Gnarfoz: I don't blame him, it's definitely intentional. you don't get boats and airships in that exact formation by accident |
| 20:22.50 | relaxok | Simca: talk about coming a long way |
| 20:22.50 | VIad | but karl_w_w I paid for this |
| 20:22.59 | karl_w_w | pity :P |
| 20:23.06 | Gnarfoz | Simca: "blame" was in jest ^^ he's been doing great work since day -1 |
| 20:23.10 | VIad | they ought to be able to accomodate me when I pay :p |
| 20:23.14 | Simca | gotcha, yeah |
| 20:23.28 | VIad | like paying for a room and being rejected at the reception |
| 20:23.34 | Gnarfoz | Simca: even the machinima movie that got him noticed was awesome ("The Return") |
| 20:23.37 | Gnarfoz | way back when |
| 20:29.39 | VIad | well if this keeps going I ought to ask for a refund on my ticket |
| 20:31.19 | VIad | oh lord at least eu worked, just hope it works for eu - lag wise |
| 20:31.30 | znf | did the EU stream just crap it's pants? |
| 20:31.41 | znf | it did for me O.O |
| 20:31.48 | znf | out of sync |
| 20:32.44 | Rythal | For me mainstage was starcraft then jumped to warcraft |
| 20:32.46 | karl_w_w | this HS stream is hilarious |
| 20:32.47 | VIad | hope they mention transmog revamp |
| 20:33.34 | Rythal | lol.. not datamined by mmo-c |
| 20:35.06 | fewyn | oh god |
| 20:35.09 | fewyn | that's hillarious |
| 20:35.26 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/V9hmu4d.png :| |
| 20:35.48 | fewyn | rip |
| 20:35.50 | fewyn | still works here |
| 20:35.57 | Ressy | still working here |
| 20:36.01 | nevcairiel | stream fine here |
| 20:36.04 | nevcairiel | watching from the us website |
| 20:36.10 | fewyn | same |
| 20:36.22 | VIad | think eu has more playerbase than us |
| 20:36.26 | VIad | considering what happened :p |
| 20:36.39 | VIad | weird since us so much more larger |
| 20:37.10 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/artifacts/ |
| 20:37.14 | fewyn | all the artifacts |
| 20:38.38 | fewyn | rogue is the only class who gets name changes for specs |
| 20:39.26 | Gnarfoz | well, at least kd3 is live tweeting for me |
| 20:39.40 | Gnarfoz | VIad: uhm EU has a much larger population than US :P |
| 20:39.57 | VIad | I doden't expect that - considering land size |
| 20:40.01 | fewyn | the scenario sounds really cool |
| 20:40.01 | VIad | more room for making babies |
| 20:40.09 | nevcairiel | US has loads of empty areas |
| 20:40.18 | VIad | room for making babies :D |
| 20:40.21 | Gnarfoz | better social systems -> less risky to have babies ;) |
| 20:40.22 | VIad | building |
| 20:41.01 | VIad | legion star destroyers |
| 20:41.49 | Gnarfoz | lol, EU stream just resurfaced as a zombie |
| 20:41.56 | Gnarfoz | I'm getting sound from some long forgotten tab |
| 20:42.24 | Gnarfoz | actually no, it's the esport stream in firefox |
| 20:42.36 | fewyn | i'm watching it in Edge |
| 20:42.38 | Rythal | still sad demon hunter is hero.. we saw how well that worked out with DK's and always OP to make them feel "hero" |
| 20:42.48 | VIad | http://40.media.tumblr.com/0bd104df6a4474b7b0cfb49b29a0a2a1/tumblr_nst560qqTH1rt4flvo1_1280.png |
| 20:42.51 | fewyn | hopefully they learned Rythal |
| 20:42.52 | VIad | illidan story related |
| 20:42.55 | fewyn | we'll see tho |
| 20:43.31 | Gnarfoz | YAY finally got it working in Firefox |
| 20:45.22 | VIad | no new skeletons as of yet |
| 20:45.24 | VIad | some new reskins |
| 20:45.27 | relaxok | Rythal: how are DKs OP? |
| 20:46.22 | fewyn | they were ridic op at launch |
| 20:46.28 | fewyn | blood dks |
| 20:46.30 | fewyn | EVERYWHERE |
| 20:46.41 | fewyn | no healers required |
| 20:46.50 | VIad | no new skeletons but nice reskins |
| 20:46.55 | znf | this part is boring |
| 20:47.00 | znf | talk about gameplay changes |
| 20:47.05 | znf | fuck models and buildings |
| 20:47.08 | nevcairiel | primary focus on gameplay is tomorrow |
| 20:47.12 | VIad | znf shut your piehole |
| 20:47.16 | znf | "meh" then |
| 20:47.18 | VIad | :d |
| 20:47.19 | znf | waste of time |
| 20:47.46 | Rythal | How many other classes do you see soloing current content raids? |
| 20:47.49 | VIad | its interesting |
| 20:47.57 | VIad | Rythal: monks? |
| 20:48.03 | nevcairiel | Rythal: most tank classes can do that |
| 20:48.04 | Rythal | and that's now.. blood's been tamed down a lot |
| 20:48.49 | Gnarfoz | Finally back on the sofa... But Firefox is not playing smoothly (or Flash isn't...) |
| 20:49.32 | fewyn | felsaber |
| 20:49.35 | fewyn | that looks badass |
| 20:49.36 | znf | cool mount |
| 20:49.45 | VIad | reminded me of a tiger mount |
| 20:49.45 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how the stream died so badly that Chrome thinks it's dead even after clearing cache and restarting it |
| 20:49.52 | znf | Gnarfoz, surprinsingly, this year, my chrome is keeping up |
| 20:50.01 | nevcairiel | my chrome has been fine |
| 20:50.08 | znf | last year chrome started fucking up badly after 1 hour |
| 20:50.08 | Rythal | You gotta remember, your asking how are they OP now, 7 years later :P and 7 years of nerfs from people saying they were too OP |
| 20:50.09 | VIad | watching on chrome since start |
| 20:50.24 | VIad | one year ago chrome was version 15, its 40+ now :p |
| 20:50.27 | VIad | lots of improvements |
| 20:50.55 | znf | pretty sure it was 2x.something |
| 20:51.02 | relaxok | Rythal: maybe at the VERY beginning, which im sure was intentional when everybody was rolling them to try it =p |
| 20:51.24 | VIad | btw I dont think DK gets a class hall, just uses the flying temple over EPL right? :p |
| 20:51.29 | VIad | so nothing new, like monks I guess. |
| 20:51.36 | VIad | maybe some new npcs |
| 20:51.49 | Rythal | I haven't ever played a dk myself, I always considered them worse derpheads then hunters (which I do play :/ lol) |
| 20:51.49 | nevcairiel | if they reuse those places, they'll get spiffed up a bit |
| 20:52.09 | VIad | btw no girls being designers |
| 20:52.13 | VIad | blizz anti-female? |
| 20:52.42 | Rythal | the girls are all working on games that succeed (troll-face.jpg) |
| 20:52.45 | Gnarfoz | Girls being anti being game designers at Blizzard |
| 20:52.58 | znf | Why would you even bring such a discussion on? |
| 20:53.05 | znf | Srsly... this politically corectness is pissing me off |
| 20:53.07 | VIad | because you said this was boring znf |
| 20:53.08 | Gnarfoz | Good question |
| 20:53.13 | VIad | so you need something to talk about now |
| 20:53.20 | znf | VIad, yeah, you're a dick. |
| 20:53.24 | VIad | :D |
| 20:53.36 | Ressy | :\ |
| 20:53.43 | Gnarfoz | Jules who? |
| 20:53.49 | Gnarfoz | Is he Australian or something |
| 20:53.53 | VIad | sounds like it |
| 20:54.10 | Rythal | hour left of work.. wonder if I can start drinking beer now and get away with it |
| 20:54.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Yoshimo (~anything@unaffiliated/yoshimo) |
| 20:54.28 | fewyn | emerald niiiightmare |
| 20:55.20 | Gnarfoz | Audio isolation from the other hall sucks |
| 20:55.48 | Gnarfoz | And they should have put the chairs on the other side of the stage |
| 20:56.34 | Gnarfoz | More world trees? |
| 20:57.05 | znf | woah |
| 20:57.12 | znf | moonkins everywhere just came |
| 20:57.17 | Gnarfoz | Actually he reminds me of the main characters in Thirteen Days |
| 20:57.43 | Gnarfoz | Massachusetts accent, that means |
| 20:58.49 | Gnarfoz | Wow, I just arrived at moonkin form just now, znf |
| 20:58.57 | VIad | that was a min ago or two |
| 21:00.06 | Rythal | screw moonkins.. feral for life |
| 21:00.23 | fewyn | take that back |
| 21:00.57 | Rythal | never! Guardian mainspec, kitteh offspec is the only way to roll... except when I do bear main spec, tree off-spec |
| 21:01.28 | VIad | kinder maxi are delicious |
| 21:01.46 | nevcairiel | tree mainspec, guardian offspec ftw |
| 21:01.52 | nevcairiel | although i may use something else for leveling |
| 21:02.05 | znf | kitty/bear for life |
| 21:02.05 | Rythal | I level as kitty |
| 21:02.06 | znf | kthx |
| 21:02.10 | VIad | my druid died for me laste mop, been blood since |
| 21:02.20 | VIad | wonder if druid will spark back interest in legion or not |
| 21:02.33 | Rythal | I would do tree main instead of bear... but i suck at healing, like really bad |
| 21:02.41 | Gnarfoz | VIad is playing hardcore wow, his char is dead |
| 21:03.16 | Rythal | hardcore wow could actually be kinda fun |
| 21:03.23 | Rythal | especially on a pvp server |
| 21:03.34 | VIad | hardcore mode + iron man challenge |
| 21:03.44 | VIad | + neutral monk mode to 110 |
| 21:03.47 | nevcairiel | iron man challenge already is hardcore mode |
| 21:03.55 | VIad | righto |
| 21:04.46 | VIad | I guess if bob ross did their artwork it would be a lot of mountains, trees, rivers and clouds. |
| 21:05.33 | znf | Weâll be back soon! |
| 21:05.33 | znf | The Blizzard family of websites is currently undergoing maintenance to improve your browsing experience. Thank you for your patience! |
| 21:05.35 | znf | lol |
| 21:05.44 | VIad | open the us site |
| 21:05.46 | VIad | worked for me |
| 21:05.52 | VIad | gave up on the eu one |
| 21:05.56 | znf | wanted to see the schedule |
| 21:06.05 | VIad | http://us.battle.net/blizzcon/en/event-info/schedule/friday |
| 21:06.11 | znf | my stream just went full sd |
| 21:06.15 | Gnarfoz | Use Alram's, znf |
| 21:06.17 | VIad | us site works |
| 21:06.44 | znf | Crap. |
| 21:06.49 | znf | I moved away from my original tab |
| 21:06.51 | Gnarfoz | If only npapi Flash wouldn't stutter so bad |
| 21:06.54 | znf | now I'm behind with the plebs :( |
| 21:07.22 | VIad | 3x FARCLIP |
| 21:07.25 | VIad | finally |
| 21:07.30 | fewyn | they are increasing the farclip niiiice |
| 21:07.36 | Gnarfoz | Also, he looks like he hasn't slept for three days |
| 21:07.41 | Gnarfoz | He probably hasn't |
| 21:07.50 | fewyn | they don't around blizzcon |
| 21:08.07 | VIad | the farclip change is huge, shame it was just a footnote :p |
| 21:08.11 | VIad | tbh would lead with that |
| 21:08.14 | Gnarfoz | OK, Australia joke pretty much says he's from .au |
| 21:08.20 | fewyn | yeah |
| 21:08.31 | VIad | since you would actually see the awesome mountains and statues from the shore all up in the skies with this farclip |
| 21:08.43 | VIad | unlike how it would be in past expansions, huge fog covering it all up |
| 21:08.48 | Rythal | Increased farclip, no flying :P |
| 21:08.55 | znf | ^ |
| 21:09.06 | znf | I hope they do what they did now from the start (rep/quests before flying) |
| 21:09.11 | znf | no-flying untill last patch sucked |
| 21:09.28 | Gnarfoz | They already said that's their current plan when they announced the current solution |
| 21:09.35 | Rythal | yep |
| 21:09.50 | fewyn | NEW NAGA MODELS |
| 21:09.59 | Gnarfoz | Well, they can still go full troll mode and do a 180 on it |
| 21:10.03 | Rythal | not that they haven't gone back on things before, a billion times |
| 21:10.12 | Gnarfoz | Exactly, hehe |
| 21:10.16 | VIad | it will be, reach 100, do some quests, rep grinds, unlock flying |
| 21:10.18 | VIad | not a biggie |
| 21:10.20 | fewyn | oh god these new models |
| 21:10.23 | fewyn | these are cool |
| 21:10.34 | Rythal | reach 110 you mean |
| 21:10.37 | Gnarfoz | Manshee hmhm |
| 21:11.23 | Gnarfoz | Prep for playable Naga race, you heard it here first |
| 21:11.36 | Rythal | eye of azshara ... naga race |
| 21:11.40 | znf | Gnarfoz, what about their legs? |
| 21:11.42 | VIad | next expansion |
| 21:12.02 | znf | well, ok, there's nothing else interesting today on blizzcon |
| 21:12.12 | Rythal | 100% underwater expansion, would sure cure people asking for flying |
| 21:12.48 | znf | oh look, dalaran |
| 21:13.03 | Rythal | dalaran 3.0 |
| 21:13.03 | Gnarfoz | znf: probably going to play OW and re-watch on VOD later when it's not dying |
| 21:13.16 | znf | You have OW beta? |
| 21:13.16 | znf | _|_ |
| 21:13.29 | kullervo | oh I didn't link the artifact mirror here |
| 21:13.29 | VIad | share a beta invite, Gnarfoz |
| 21:13.37 | kullervo | http://imgur.com/a/4iN4c |
| 21:13.39 | Gnarfoz | Of course? Day 1 or bust :-P |
| 21:14.07 | znf | but yeah, really, nothing interesting today |
| 21:14.10 | znf | boooriiiing |
| 21:14.34 | znf | Drogbars?! |
| 21:14.40 | fewyn | a++ would turkey meatball with cornbread stuffing again |
| 21:14.41 | znf | Looks like goblin screwed a kobold |
| 21:14.53 | Rythal | moose head taurens? |
| 21:15.18 | Gnarfoz | fewyn: none of those reached my sofa. Who did you send them with? USPS?! |
| 21:15.25 | Ressy | stream boring. passing out. |
| 21:15.28 | znf | the only reason I'd keep watching is the Q&A's between the panels |
| 21:15.28 | fewyn | i sent them with Ressy |
| 21:15.33 | Rythal | stream very boring :| |
| 21:15.36 | znf | Who's staying up? |
| 21:15.42 | fewyn | and Ressy is passing out so i assume they won't make it Gnarfoz |
| 21:15.42 | Gnarfoz | She must have eaten them all |
| 21:15.49 | Ressy | won't make what where? |
| 21:15.52 | fewyn | i'll make sure to freeze them |
| 21:15.54 | Gnarfoz | Passing out from all those meatballs |
| 21:15.58 | fewyn | turkey meatballs |
| 21:15.59 | znf | Sooo... someone should yell when they have the in-between panels |
| 21:16.01 | znf | interviews/stuff |
| 21:16.02 | fewyn | with cornbread stuffing |
| 21:16.05 | znf | those are usually interesting |
| 21:16.10 | VIad | ALPINE harpies - naked |
| 21:16.13 | VIad | expected more fur |
| 21:16.23 | fewyn | Gnarfoz: i made 5lbs of them |
| 21:16.29 | fewyn | freezing almost all of them |
| 21:16.36 | fewyn | and vacuum sealing |
| 21:16.36 | Ressy | I'm not really a fan of meatballs. |
| 21:16.53 | fewyn | you have these with turkey gravy |
| 21:16.55 | fewyn | and mashed potatoes |
| 21:17.02 | Gnarfoz | Why did you eat them all, then?! |
| 21:17.04 | Rythal | I dunno, it might just be me, but.. blizzcon kinda this year is making me yawn, they wasted all the big announcements earlier in the year so nothing today to get excited over |
| 21:17.13 | fewyn | Rythal: it's an off year |
| 21:17.15 | fewyn | really |
| 21:17.20 | fewyn | esp since they announced legion early |
| 21:17.49 | Gnarfoz | ... But then put "Summer 2016" on the slides |
| 21:18.20 | Gnarfoz | If there's one thing they excel at it must be taking too damn long |
| 21:18.22 | Rythal | Not that I attend these talks when I'm at blizzcon anyways.. I spend all day at the fountain outside with my camera and the cosplayers heh |
| 21:19.00 | fewyn | turkey meatballs are real easy tho if anyone wants to make them... i just took 2lbs of ground and a box of premade stuffing mixed it in a bowl with 2 eggs as a binder |
| 21:19.04 | fewyn | and then scooped it all out |
| 21:19.13 | fewyn | baked for 25 minutes at 375 |
| 21:19.26 | fewyn | let cool, freeze quickly then put in vacuum seal bags and seal them |
| 21:19.43 | fewyn | they'll laste for like 6 months in the freezer that way |
| 21:22.15 | Gnarfoz | Pure arcane well? Sounds like something Illidan would like to get his hands on |
| 21:22.37 | Gnarfoz | (or Kael'thas) |
| 21:24.08 | Gnarfoz | Thus presenter feels like the Nexus 5X/6P announcement... Where is the hype?! |
| 21:24.14 | Gnarfoz | *this |
| 21:24.20 | fewyn | this is what you get with devs |
| 21:24.25 | fewyn | they are probably nervous as fuck |
| 21:24.31 | Gnarfoz | Gary is tons better |
| 21:24.50 | fewyn | lol playing overwatch |
| 21:24.55 | fewyn | then back to suramar |
| 21:25.04 | Gnarfoz | Huh? |
| 21:25.19 | fewyn | that's what he said |
| 21:25.25 | fewyn | they'd be doing if they weren't at blizzcon |
| 21:25.27 | Gnarfoz | Must have missed that |
| 21:25.33 | fewyn | you may be behind me? |
| 21:25.35 | Gnarfoz | Or you're way ahead of me |
| 21:25.46 | fewyn | maybe! |
| 21:25.48 | Gnarfoz | Ah. |
| 21:25.53 | znf | hello Ian |
| 21:25.55 | Gnarfoz | He said it just now |
| 21:25.55 | znf | finally |
| 21:25.55 | fewyn | here comes ian |
| 21:26.10 | znf | yay gameplay |
| 21:26.11 | znf | yay |
| 21:26.16 | Rythal | coming soon much like tanaan jungle... oh.. so it'll come in 7.2 :P |
| 21:26.40 | Gnarfoz | Gurgthock already for you? I'm still at the Suramar clip |
| 21:26.46 | fewyn | oh gameplay |
| 21:27.11 | Gnarfoz | My stream is probably taking the long route across the Pacific Ocean |
| 21:27.23 | Gnarfoz | Ion so hyped |
| 21:27.27 | fewyn | oh it scales? |
| 21:27.38 | znf | :o |
| 21:27.39 | fewyn | i think that's where they are going |
| 21:27.39 | znf | they wat |
| 21:27.45 | Gnarfoz | Get rid of Australian guy next year, thx |
| 21:28.02 | fewyn | oh god |
| 21:28.04 | fewyn | they did! |
| 21:28.05 | Rythal | yep... no start zone.. each level scales |
| 21:28.07 | fewyn | THEY DID IT |
| 21:28.09 | Ressy | wut |
| 21:28.26 | znf | cool |
| 21:28.30 | fewyn | whoa |
| 21:28.31 | Gnarfoz | That was way overdue |
| 21:28.33 | fewyn | like really |
| 21:28.35 | fewyn | yeah |
| 21:28.47 | Gnarfoz | (and my stream hasn't even reached that point) |
| 21:28.50 | Rythal | leveling guide makers everywhere cry |
| 21:29.05 | fewyn | people still use those? |
| 21:29.16 | Rythal | amazingly so |
| 21:29.58 | fewyn | i really love this idea |
| 21:30.00 | Ressy | lol |
| 21:30.54 | Ressy | shiiiiit |
| 21:30.59 | znf | sounds weird |
| 21:31.04 | znf | the UI thingie |
| 21:31.06 | Rythal | play with friends... but... what if we don't have friends, and if someone is 102, and the other is 108.. are mobs 102 or 105 or 108 |
| 21:31.18 | fewyn | lol |
| 21:31.20 | nevcairiel | its probably a smarter system |
| 21:31.24 | fewyn | it's smart |
| 21:31.25 | znf | meh, who cares anyway? |
| 21:31.35 | znf | I'll be done in less than 24 hours anyway |
| 21:31.35 | znf | :D |
| 21:32.14 | fewyn | max level tiem |
| 21:35.27 | fewyn | huh |
| 21:35.31 | fewyn | i kinda like this concept? |
| 21:35.32 | znf | Cool |
| 21:35.33 | znf | yeah |
| 21:35.55 | znf | seems you can complete 5 every day |
| 21:36.00 | fewyn | yeah |
| 21:36.04 | Rythal | more map stuff... I don't like this concept, and trying to integrate it :| |
| 21:36.07 | znf | wonder if there's a catch up |
| 21:38.35 | fewyn | no server hopping |
| 21:38.37 | fewyn | i like that |
| 21:39.50 | znf | nice |
| 21:39.51 | znf | catch up |
| 21:41.59 | fewyn | yay dragons |
| 21:42.08 | znf | yay |
| 21:42.37 | fewyn | oh crap cenarius? |
| 21:42.51 | fewyn | that's cool |
| 21:43.23 | znf | yay, video |
| 21:43.41 | znf | can we moutn in there, please? |
| 21:43.42 | znf | please! |
| 21:44.45 | nevcairiel | looked rather big, so probably yes |
| 21:46.33 | fewyn | 10 dungeons? |
| 21:46.36 | fewyn | yessssss |
| 21:46.42 | Rythal | laughs... so there's our Eye of Azshara |
| 21:46.44 | znf | hopefully I don't have to go there after I get raid gear |
| 21:46.54 | znf | liked it in WoD |
| 21:46.57 | nevcairiel | they named it eye of azshara on the previous reveal already |
| 21:46.59 | znf | no reason to do the dungeons anymore! |
| 21:47.17 | nevcairiel | znf: they will find reasons for you to go there, its one t hing they always wanted to do |
| 21:47.23 | nevcairiel | but if you're lucky, its only one alternative |
| 21:47.24 | fewyn | probably have to go in to get more artifact power |
| 21:47.36 | Rythal | scaling dungeons based on ilvl of group |
| 21:47.52 | Rythal | rewards higher ilvl raid like gear *nods* |
| 21:50.58 | znf | Rythal, huh? I missed that...? |
| 21:51.11 | Rythal | it's not real, it's what I predicted they would say |
| 21:51.17 | znf | ... |
| 21:51.21 | nevcairiel | the 5 level-up dungeons just scale with level |
| 21:51.35 | nevcairiel | but he wanted to discuss some raid/dungeon system thing after the preview |
| 21:52.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Yoshimo (~anything@unaffiliated/yoshimo) |
| 21:53.18 | Gnarfoz | My Chrome still says main stream offline, lil |
| 21:53.43 | zenzelezz | no stream for you. Come back, one year |
| 21:53.49 | fewyn | this looks way better than trains |
| 21:53.59 | Gnarfoz | Nah, it "works" in Firefox |
| 21:54.08 | Rythal | ok that looks pretty badass |
| 21:54.20 | Gnarfoz | If only plug in Flash didn't stutter every 4 seconds |
| 21:55.02 | fewyn | black rook hold is pretty |
| 21:55.19 | zenzelezz | I think they named it "black rook" just to mess with people |
| 21:55.24 | zenzelezz | "what do you mean blackrock?" |
| 21:55.33 | fewyn | yeah |
| 21:55.37 | fewyn | i had to read it like 6 times |
| 21:55.38 | Gnarfoz | Indeed |
| 21:56.13 | nevcairiel | i would pronounce rook differently, but of course i'm no native speaker |
| 21:56.23 | fewyn | avoid the mechanar problem |
| 21:56.46 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it's very close |
| 21:57.25 | nevcairiel | greater rifts in wow |
| 21:57.25 | nevcairiel | =p |
| 21:57.28 | Gnarfoz | GRift dungeons |
| 21:57.29 | fewyn | yeaaah |
| 21:57.30 | fewyn | lol |
| 21:57.40 | Rythal | wow.. so I was close in my prediction |
| 21:57.41 | Gnarfoz | Sponsors?! |
| 21:57.51 | Gnarfoz | Gtfo my screen |
| 21:58.37 | znf | wth does it mean "Depleted"? |
| 21:58.39 | znf | start from 0? |
| 21:58.45 | Rythal | so this is why no talk of diablo.. they are bringing more of diablo to wow :P |
| 21:58.54 | Gnarfoz | Try again at previously unlocked level, probably |
| 21:58.57 | Rythal | first diablo loot.. now diablo rifts lol |
| 21:59.01 | fewyn | problems means you need to start over |
| 21:59.21 | znf | wonder if you'll be able to restart it |
| 21:59.24 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (Ressy@192-0-172-185.cpe.teksavvy.com) |
| 21:59.24 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (Ressy@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Ressy) |
| 21:59.28 | Gnarfoz | Rythal: their endgame: replace Diablo with improved wow |
| 21:59.31 | Gnarfoz | :-! |
| 21:59.37 | zenzelezz | didn't they say you were going to help a "friend" in the Emerald Nightmare? Must be Tyrael |
| 21:59.50 | fewyn | ok this sounds really cool |
| 22:00.10 | znf | "Corse explodes" |
| 22:00.12 | znf | loldiablo |
| 22:00.18 | Rythal | LOL |
| 22:00.38 | znf | corpse* |
| 22:00.47 | znf | SO MANY QUESTIONS |
| 22:00.51 | Rythal | jackpot... so elite guilds get rewarded every week |
| 22:01.01 | nevcairiel | tomorrow is in-depth game systems znf, be patient =p |
| 22:01.06 | fewyn | that'll probaby get removed |
| 22:01.07 | znf | I can't! |
| 22:01.20 | fewyn | beta is.... |
| 22:01.35 | znf | I'm curious about that key system |
| 22:01.35 | fewyn | so closed beta coming SOON |
| 22:02.19 | Rythal | knowing my luck with beta's, i'll get in when it goes open 3 weeks before launch and have to spend many sleepless nights debugging |
| 22:02.26 | fewyn | lol |
| 22:02.32 | relaxok | "Cenarius is the next boss" =o |
| 22:03.20 | znf | blizz... couch? |
| 22:04.28 | Semlar | neffi http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19941528/ why do warlocks get all the cool stuff |
| 22:05.44 | Neffi | I thought you were gonna roll warlock at like the beginning of this xpac, Semlar? |
| 22:05.53 | Neffi | why didn't you? see what you're missing out on now? |
| 22:06.12 | Semlar | they have a floating skull for a weapon |
| 22:06.19 | Stanzilla | http://www.twitch.tv/chinglishtv |
| 22:06.20 | zenzelezz | I'm starting to get high xpactations |
| 22:06.21 | Stanzilla | live gameplay |
| 22:06.22 | Stanzilla | of legion |
| 22:06.27 | Semlar | why doesn't beast mastery get like a floating cat or something |
| 22:06.27 | Stanzilla | looks like they redid nameplates in 7.0 |
| 22:06.43 | Semlar | i know guill already mentioned they overhauled the nameplates |
| 22:06.51 | Semlar | he said they gave them unit ids |
| 22:07.01 | Rythal | I did.. then found the dps lackluster :( only class that took me hours to finally qualify for heroics |
| 22:07.21 | Neffi | stop the rumors Semlar |
| 22:07.29 | Stanzilla | Semlar: for real? |
| 22:07.29 | Semlar | okay i made that up |
| 22:07.32 | Stanzilla | fuck you |
| 22:07.33 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 22:07.35 | Neffi | he said they MIGHT give them unitids and it was very tentative and to not go around telling people that |
| 22:07.41 | Semlar | just kidding he said they would have unit ids |
| 22:07.48 | Neffi | he said it wasnt final |
| 22:07.55 | Semlar | okay they might |
| 22:09.00 | Neffi | This is probably a "threat meter" situations |
| 22:09.19 | Neffi | "everyone is mapping unitIDs to nameplates anyway, but wasting lots of client resources. we might as well just expose them" |
| 22:09.32 | Rythal | blizz email is slow.. they just emailed now saying buy legion :/ I paid 3 hours ago! |
| 22:10.02 | Semlar | someone tell this streamer to go find some more enemies |
| 22:10.19 | Semlar | god dammit |
| 22:10.43 | Semlar | RUINED |
| 22:10.46 | Rythal | neat.. level 100 boost is active already. |
| 22:10.56 | *** join/#wowuidev Amarande (amarande@75.133.100.116) |
| 22:11.24 | fewyn | yep |
| 22:13.30 | Rythal | tempting to use it for rogue.. I hate rogue.. only reason I ever made one was for fangs |
| 22:14.00 | Semlar | he's managed to break the game |
| 22:14.10 | relaxok | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/november/WoWPanel229.jpg |
| 22:14.23 | relaxok | man ive been hoping for something like that for years |
| 22:14.34 | relaxok | challenge mode with increased mob damage and stuff not just lower times |
| 22:16.09 | fewyn | no thanks on deep dive |
| 22:16.12 | fewyn | let's move to cinematics |
| 22:17.15 | zenzelezz | "So what do you do for a living?" "I'm a lighting supervisor" |
| 22:19.22 | fewyn | if they can pull off the concepts they showed in the panel |
| 22:19.25 | fewyn | i'll be happy |
| 22:19.39 | Gnarfoz | Chrome just doesn't want to play nice |
| 22:20.03 | Gnarfoz | "This channel is currently off-air" |
| 22:20.03 | fewyn | i'm going to completely stop using chrome when threshold 1 which hopefully will have extensions in Edge |
| 22:20.14 | fewyn | when threshold 1 releases* |
| 22:20.20 | Gnarfoz | you're out of the loop again? didn't the push extensions back |
| 22:20.22 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: ^ |
| 22:20.31 | fewyn | i thought it was coming in threshold? |
| 22:20.40 | Stanzilla | extensions is RS1 |
| 22:20.47 | Stanzilla | th2 is next week |
| 22:20.55 | fewyn | oh i got numbers wrong |
| 22:20.56 | Stanzilla | rs1 is spring 2016 |
| 22:21.23 | fewyn | threshold will let me update windows 8 without 8.1 right? |
| 22:21.29 | Stanzilla | th2, yes |
| 22:21.34 | Stanzilla | th1 is what you have atm |
| 22:21.46 | fewyn | i was having a bitch of a time trying to upgrade to 8.1 on a family friend's computer a couple weeks ago |
| 22:21.50 | fewyn | i finally just gave up |
| 22:21.50 | Stanzilla | th1 = RTM th2 = November Update |
| 22:22.10 | fewyn | i don't know what msft's mind was when they required 8.1 to use the store |
| 22:22.51 | Semlar | alright this streamer is never going to show another nameplate |
| 22:22.55 | Semlar | is there another stream |
| 22:23.04 | Stanzilla | can be pretty sure that the guy who had the idea was one of the 10k+ that was let go :D |
| 22:23.43 | Gnarfoz | what do you mean? |
| 22:24.03 | Gnarfoz | oh, Microsoft shenanigangs, not WoW stream |
| 22:24.40 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 22:24.52 | Gnarfoz | is there someone else streaming? also want to see that nameplate thing |
| 22:25.09 | Gnarfoz | this guy doesn't even know the difference between stealth and invisibility |
| 22:25.21 | fewyn | the gunship is pcool |
| 22:25.22 | Gnarfoz | ah, there, for a bit |
| 22:25.43 | Semlar | NAMEPLATE SPOTTED |
| 22:25.52 | Gnarfoz | nice |
| 22:26.01 | fewyn | screenshot? |
| 22:27.29 | Gnarfoz | fewyn: http://i.imgur.com/ztMetuj.png |
| 22:27.55 | fewyn | trying to compare it to ingame |
| 22:28.07 | Semlar | i was trying to see if they changed their motion behavior because it looked like it might be different |
| 22:28.08 | fewyn | don't really notice a difference? |
| 22:28.16 | Semlar | well the nameplates don't look anything like they do on live |
| 22:28.21 | Gnarfoz | yeah. |
| 22:28.25 | Semlar | they're just a bar with a name over them |
| 22:28.29 | Gnarfoz | are you forgetting you're running some addon, fewyn :P |
| 22:28.37 | fewyn | i'm not though? |
| 22:28.41 | Gnarfoz | live blizz nameplates are utterly different |
| 22:28.49 | Gnarfoz | totally different design |
| 22:28.54 | Semlar | yeah it's not even close |
| 22:29.01 | Amarande | Stanzilla: and hopefully they also let go the bastards who greenlighted the latest outlook web app :) |
| 22:29.05 | fewyn | http://i.imgur.com/zAMiSGF.png |
| 22:29.15 | Semlar | that's the unit frame |
| 22:29.15 | fewyn | i don't think i'm running an addon? |
| 22:29.18 | Gnarfoz | that's not a name plate |
| 22:29.20 | fewyn | wait |
| 22:29.21 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 22:29.22 | fewyn | ohhhhh |
| 22:29.24 | fewyn | fuck |
| 22:29.24 | Semlar | nameplates are above their heads |
| 22:29.26 | Gnarfoz | did you have too many meatballs |
| 22:29.31 | fewyn | derpy derp |
| 22:29.33 | Gnarfoz | you did, didn't you |
| 22:29.34 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.36 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 22:29.37 | fewyn | yes i did |
| 22:29.41 | fewyn | i had like 4 meatballs |
| 22:29.57 | fewyn | interesting change to name plates |
| 22:30.32 | Semlar | i actually don't like the look but we can modify them |
| 22:30.38 | fewyn | yeah |
| 22:30.42 | fewyn | i'm not sure i like them |
| 22:31.45 | Semlar | if they do get around to giving them unitIDs we'll be able to make them even better |
| 22:32.22 | fewyn | like what exactly? |
| 22:32.56 | Semlar | well right now if you want to identify who a nameplate belongs to you have to mouse over or target it after it's been shown |
| 22:33.08 | Gnarfoz | nameplates have been dark voodoo for way too long |
| 22:33.16 | Gnarfoz | seems like that's finally changing |
| 22:33.20 | Semlar | so anything like aura tracking or getting their guild or something is a huge pain in the ass |
| 22:33.39 | zenzelezz | I must be really vanilla. I basically create a character, hit V, and I'm set |
| 22:33.44 | fewyn | remember to make sure you're setup for betas https://us.battle.net/account/management/beta-profile.html |
| 22:33.47 | Gnarfoz | I still remember when the first nameplate mod appeared and everyone was like "huh, how do you even...?" |
| 22:34.04 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: what are you even DOING in #wow U I dev |
| 22:34.06 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:34.19 | Gnarfoz | or did you mean just nameplates ;) |
| 22:35.21 | zenzelezz | just nameplates |
| 22:54.07 | znf | cho'gall is awesome |
| 23:00.30 | Neffi | prematurely casts Semlar in World of Wacraft 2: The Movie |
| 23:01.16 | zenzelezz | recklessly casts Neffi to void* |
| 23:05.50 | Constie | I think Blizzard should make a WoW 2 that's literally just a copy except none of the UI stuff is dark voodoo. |
| 23:06.31 | znf | inb4: "no ui customization" |
| 23:06.32 | znf | :D |
| 23:08.00 | *** join/#wowuidev Semlar2 (~semlar@142-196-149-253.res.bhn.net) |
| 23:08.10 | fewyn | that's the one thing ihate about newer mmo |
| 23:08.12 | fewyn | s |
| 23:08.26 | Neffi | what, they all suck? |
| 23:08.39 | Neffi | Semlar: we spoke about this :( |
| 23:08.45 | relaxok | they can afford an employee that maintains complete UI documentation, they should do it |
| 23:09.13 | zenzelezz | the problem is, generally, when it's documented, it's contract |
| 23:09.24 | zenzelezz | MS faces this a lot with the old Win32 API still |
| 23:10.09 | nevcairiel | they could still just change it in a patch |
| 23:10.16 | nevcairiel | its just a decision to make |
| 23:10.34 | zenzelezz | they could, but it's not their policy |
| 23:10.44 | zenzelezz | that said, Blizzard did do the "this" thing |
| 23:10.45 | nevcairiel | not MS, blizzard =p |
| 23:10.46 | Semlar2 | no neffi |
| 23:11.13 | relaxok | what do you mean contract? |
| 23:11.16 | Amarande | Constie: WoW 2 would have to out-compete WoW, though |
| 23:11.16 | Semlar2 | how do i make a library |
| 23:11.34 | zenzelezz | relaxok: as soon as it's documented, people expect it to keep working |
| 23:11.41 | zenzelezz | difficult to change |
| 23:11.42 | Gnarfoz | relaxok: it means people expect it to never change, even if it is perfectly within Blizz's/MS's rights to change it |
| 23:12.00 | fewyn | i'm going to miss the ros panel |
| 23:12.02 | fewyn | rip |
| 23:12.06 | fewyn | i am going in for some overtime |
| 23:12.13 | Amarande | unless they're just going to at some point just announce "ok folks wow is over, instead of a new xpac we're launching wow 2 and when you sign up you'll get lots of loyalty bonuses based on what you had in wow" :) |
| 23:12.20 | fewyn | i might watch it when i get home |
| 23:12.48 | Amarande | that's about the only way a WoW 2 could succeed, otherwise how are you going to get people to migrate, you're competing against your own most successful product |
| 23:12.51 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: if blizzard wanted to truely document it, they could make it clear that changes can and will happen as they see fit |
| 23:12.52 | Constie | That was meant to be a joke because it would really obviously be a waste of resources for them to do that, Amarande. |
| 23:13.03 | znf | there we go http://gfycat.com/WideeyedAccurateFossa |
| 23:13.33 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: of course, I'm generalizing. And refering somewhat to human nature. "You bastard, you made me do things!" |
| 23:13.44 | Amarande | fewyn: yeah they keep cutting back ui customisation in so many mmos, if they even have it at all |
| 23:13.53 | Amarande | often because they're trying to tie monetisation into the ui, dagnabbit. :( |
| 23:14.08 | Amarande | hence why people were scared when they were adding an in-game store, because of the effect that has had on other MMOs that did so |
| 23:14.38 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: doesnt really change the situation that we have today, except that we have official docs |
| 23:15.03 | Amarande | like in LOTRO they cut way back on customisability to prevent people from hiding the constant presence of giant "you can buy this from the store!" link buttons and in SW:TOR if you aren't a subscriber you literally have to *pay for* hotbars :P |
| 23:15.39 | Amarande | which just boggles my mind, I mean pay for a client side feature? eesh *shakes head* |
| 23:20.46 | relaxok | zenzelezz: who's "people"? any developer has dealt with 'deprecated' stuff in libaries for their whole time being a developer.. sucks but you move on |
| 23:21.01 | relaxok | and they already do change UI stuff, it's just not documented |
| 23:21.35 | znf | oh, gul'dan hots confirmed |
| 23:21.37 | znf | is behind a bit |
| 23:22.00 | relaxok | and its an understatement what people are used to their addons breaking |
| 23:22.32 | Amarande | yup, I'm pretty much used to having to retool my UI every expansion |
| 23:22.52 | Amarande | also I tend to try to avoid playing during expansion pre-patches, as those tend to be the worst of all for custom UI enthusiasts :| |
| 23:26.35 | Mr_Rabies | i run a ton of addons but most of mine are just for improving QoL, not actually doing all that much ui changing |
| 23:26.53 | Mr_Rabies | like, i use bartender for aesthetics but it would take me about 3 minutes to go back to default action bars |
| 23:26.56 | Mr_Rabies | if even |
| 23:27.09 | Mr_Rabies | and i use default unit frames because i've yet to find a replacement i like |
| 23:29.32 | Mr_Rabies | almost everything else provides info i don't need and/or takes up more space than the default ones, even considering how much of the default one is dedicated to the portrait |
| 23:29.37 | Amarande | my issue is I'm so used to heavily customised widgets that I don't even really know the default UI very well anymore heh |
| 23:30.07 | Amarande | I think it's been the better part of a decade now since the last time I actually used the out-of-the-box UI |
| 23:30.18 | Mr_Rabies | that's part of why i don't use those kinds of addons typically, i don't want to be crippled when support ends/the addon breaks |
| 23:32.03 | relaxok | they're getting less useful as time goes on and more stuff is in the deault |
| 23:32.11 | relaxok | the vanilla UI was ultra ghetto |
| 23:33.56 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i used the hell out of some cosmos ui back in the day |
| 23:34.16 | Mr_Rabies | but i use default raid frames, default action bars, default unit frames (with raid-style party frames) |
| 23:34.54 | Mr_Rabies | it's weird that i still can't find a good addon to calculate quest reputation :< |
| 23:35.02 | Mr_Rabies | there was a good one but it broke with the new quest log |
| 23:35.10 | Semlar2 | i use default neffi frames |
| 23:35.31 | Mr_Rabies | it's really bizarre that's still not included in the rewards section for quests |
| 23:35.38 | Mr_Rabies | reputation is a pretty big deal |
| 23:35.48 | Mr_Rabies | why not count it as a reward |
| 23:36.16 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: yeah my usual issue is that not everyone updates their addons during ptr for the pre-patch |
| 23:36.34 | Amarande | so during the first few days things can be a bit odd |
| 23:36.51 | Amarande | mind you, playing during the expansion pre-patch often sucks anyway for different reasons |
| 23:37.15 | Amarande | especially if you're a raider, and suddenly all those carefully honed strategies stop working quite right because of mechanics changes :) |
| 23:37.30 | Mr_Rabies | the only addon that really would effect my daily gameplay would be if clique broke |
| 23:37.36 | nevcairiel | thats why they also nerf shit with the prepatch |
| 23:37.42 | Amarande | and sometimes suddenly all those not so carefully honed strategies, too heh |
| 23:38.15 | Amarande | like when 4.0.1 hit and we realised we'd been crutching a fair amount of sloppiness due to the fact that almost half the raid were druids ... and now we only had one b-rez per fight, not four :( |
| 23:39.15 | Mr_Rabies | as a feral druid i'm so glad they limited the number of brezes per fight across the group |
| 23:39.15 | Amarande | although I'm pretty sure the healer mana revamp had a lot more to do with why we couldn't hammer out the last two heroic icc10 bosses at that point |
| 23:39.25 | Mr_Rabies | (and also finally just removed innervate) |
| 23:39.41 | Mr_Rabies | it was useless for two expansions before they removed it and i'd still have people ask for it, wasting my dps |
| 23:40.07 | Amarande | cata switched to a paradigm where you were no longer expected to top everyone off all the time, and rebalanced healer mana usage accordingly, so if you DID keep trying to top everyone off you tended to oom |
| 23:40.10 | Amarande | that was ... "fun" on lich king |
| 23:40.17 | znf | Mr_Rabies, I liked ninja-rezzing people |
| 23:40.28 | Mr_Rabies | i still do |
| 23:40.37 | znf | but only when using that instant-cast talent thingie |
| 23:40.40 | Mr_Rabies | i'm the fastest brez in the west since feral works out in a way that i can get a free brez often |
| 23:40.44 | Amarande | although the whole topoff thing was apparently a reaction to crazy power creep during LK |
| 23:40.53 | Mr_Rabies | i just middle click someone in the raid frames and they're up instantly |
| 23:41.12 | Mr_Rabies | i've had healers not even notice that a tank died because i brezed them so fast |
| 23:41.12 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 23:41.35 | Mr_Rabies | "okay brez [healer]" "oh, we already ressed [tank]" "WHAT?" |
| 23:41.53 | Amarande | hah innervate ... which never got used properly even when it WAS useful |
| 23:42.12 | Amarande | mainly because of impatient gogogogo kids |
| 23:43.23 | Amarande | folks just too rarely got to save it for emergency/hard-healing phases in boss fights because pug kids would keep pulling the group along nonstop |
| 23:43.38 | Amarande | so the healer would never get a chance to drink and innervate would keep having to be used to make up for it :P |
| 23:45.03 | Amarande | mind you that's arguably a class warfare thing between physical and magic using classes when one thinks about it, heh |
| 23:46.55 | Amarande | as in, basically, physical classes all benefit most from a continuous segue from fight to fight while magic using classes all benefit from pauses :S |
