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| 00:14.34 | Stanzilla | always sad that we don't have a community rep for UI stuff, we have more than enough people that are capable of fixing so much shit, yet nothing of it ever reaches blizzard or gets an response. and everytime Guill says something here, people try to use the rare opportunity and swarm him :p |
| 00:16.32 | Ressy | annnnd there he goes. |
| 00:18.16 | Semlar2 | look what you did |
| 00:21.14 | Neffi | I chiefly blame Semlar2 |
| 00:21.40 | Neffi | I knew no good would come from there being 2 of you |
| 00:21.56 | Semlar2 | yeah but which one is the evil twin |
| 00:22.04 | Neffi | both |
| 00:22.13 | Semlar2 | you got me |
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| 00:23.57 | mckenziemc | one Neffi is always too many |
| 00:24.02 | Neffi | :( |
| 00:24.05 | Semlar2 | wow rude |
| 00:24.12 | Neffi | so rude |
| 00:24.42 | znf | Hmm. Anyone has an idea how to scan for a rogue DHCP server on a lan? |
| 00:24.44 | znf | from linux? |
| 00:24.54 | Semlar2 | flare? |
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| 00:25.08 | mckenziemc | stabs Semlar2 |
| 00:25.08 | znf | Hmmm? |
| 00:25.18 | Semlar2 | >_> |
| 00:25.37 | znf | I'm not finding anything with "Flare" except a game? |
| 00:25.45 | Semlar2 | <_< |
| 00:25.51 | znf | wat |
| 00:25.55 | mckenziemc | http://www.wowhead.com/search?q=flare |
| 00:26.11 | znf | oh, you were talking about somethign else |
| 00:26.43 | Neffi | lol |
| 00:26.49 | mckenziemc | serves Semlar2 a rogue. |
| 00:27.14 | znf | dances with Semlar, the nameplates master |
| 00:27.44 | Semlar2 | o.o |
| 00:27.48 | znf | Woah, how does one do this? http://i.imgur.com/2oFSJYY.png |
| 00:27.51 | znf | colored man page! :o |
| 00:28.20 | Neffi | voodoo |
| 00:28.28 | mckenziemc | man man. |
| 00:30.40 | Neffi | Semlar2: I literally cannot stop electronics from dying around me. What do I do? |
| 00:31.04 | mckenziemc | unplug them |
| 00:31.14 | Neffi | this is now the 5th drive to die |
| 00:31.37 | Neffi | err, this year |
| 00:32.53 | Neffi | wait, no, this might just be an error in ntfs-3g |
| 00:36.30 | Neffi | I guess you're not supposed to delete $RECYCLE.BIN |
| 00:36.41 | Neffi | I blame Torhal |
| 00:36.58 | znf | Neffi, add more raid |
| 00:37.06 | znf | the solution is obvious |
| 00:37.09 | Neffi | haha that's rich |
| 00:37.26 | Neffi | I'm using 2.5 drives I pulled out of broken laptopssl |
| 00:37.33 | znf | you need a zfs setup, a raid2z with ~20 drives, plus 2 logging devices and a cache device |
| 00:38.04 | Neffi | that's a terrible idea |
| 00:38.13 | Neffi | raidz2 with that many drives |
| 00:38.30 | Neffi | striped mirrored pairs are a much better idea and you should split up the spool anyway |
| 00:38.57 | mckenziemc | disfigures Neffi into a znf setup |
| 00:39.14 | znf | Neffi, many hot spares |
| 00:39.18 | Neffi | I wanna build me a ZFS NAS but I dont have the money. I use whatever hard drives I have lying around, which are usually pulled out of laptops after people manage to spill coffee on them or something |
| 00:39.19 | znf | plus caching, plus logging |
| 00:39.34 | Neffi | do you really need the extra space efficiency though? |
| 00:39.46 | znf | weeeee http://i.imgur.com/iCYiQjh.png |
| 00:39.59 | Neffi | Z also has high resilvering stress. Z2 and Z3 just extend the problem, they dont really solve it |
| 00:40.04 | Neffi | 50% space efficiency is enough, IMO |
| 00:40.08 | Neffi | RAID10 all the way |
| 00:40.26 | znf | well, whoever made this pool in the first place, kind of overdid it with the space |
| 00:40.29 | Neffi | you're a madman! |
| 00:40.30 | znf | we nbarely use 10TB |
| 00:40.33 | Neffi | ;) |
| 00:40.44 | Neffi | 2.45T jesus |
| 00:40.48 | Neffi | 24.5* |
| 00:41.09 | znf | I could probably shave off like half of that used space if I'd use dedup |
| 00:41.32 | znf | but I'm out of memory on that machine already |
| 00:41.34 | Neffi | dedup is supposed to be super memory hungry on zfs |
| 00:42.15 | znf | yeah, we use compression, though |
| 00:42.19 | znf | but it's not as effective, for some reasons |
| 00:42.44 | Gnarfoz | who needs realtime RAID anyway |
| 00:42.47 | Neffi | I don't need anything that crazy, but ASRock has these nice little ITX boards with an assload of SATA ports and an embedded Atom CPU with 4 or 8 cores. And U-NAS sells these nice ITX cases with loads of hot swap bays. I wanna put together a NAS when I have the spare change |
| 00:43.01 | znf | well, we're a data-center :P |
| 00:43.08 | Neffi | hah |
| 00:44.00 | Neffi | http://www.u-nas.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17617&cat=0&featured=Y <- isn't it just lovely? |
| 00:44.15 | znf | I need to go there in about 2 weeks or so |
| 00:44.24 | znf | This specific server I screenshoted is acting weird |
| 00:44.37 | znf | dmesg was crying about some dead drives |
| 00:44.42 | znf | after 700days uptime I rebooted it |
| 00:44.45 | znf | all drives were working |
| 00:44.52 | znf | then, in 24 hours, another drive died (?!) |
| 00:44.53 | Neffi | :/ |
| 00:45.02 | znf | had a guy just re-plug it |
| 00:45.07 | Neffi | probably Semlar is hacking you |
| 00:45.07 | znf | put it online, it has worked since then |
| 00:45.11 | znf | not sure wth is wrong with it |
| 00:46.02 | Gnarfoz | ZFS is so slow, I'm not sure when I would ever want to use it |
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| 00:46.46 | Amarande | zfs seems to be flavour of the month for some reason |
| 00:46.53 | Amarande | never mind that it makes your NAS a hella lot more expensive |
| 00:47.03 | Amarande | mainly due to the need for ECC RAM |
| 00:47.04 | znf | well, it's cool :P |
| 00:47.08 | znf | we're actually doing it on bsd |
| 00:47.10 | Neffi | no it doesn't, but I guess you're gonna rant anyway |
| 00:47.15 | znf | I've never touched a BSD machine in my life before this |
| 00:47.24 | znf | I like how flexible is |
| 00:47.29 | Amarande | Neffi: most of the zfs advocates in ##hardware pretty much regard ECC as a must |
| 00:47.31 | Neffi | BSD is nice |
| 00:47.42 | znf | meh, I have mixed feelings |
| 00:47.46 | znf | I installed atop with pkg |
| 00:47.53 | znf | then I broke half of other stuff, even bash... |
| 00:47.53 | Neffi | Amarande: And most of the people in #freebsd say those guys are morons all repeating the same misinformation |
| 00:48.09 | znf | so, yeah, mixed feelings with BSD |
| 00:48.17 | znf | and no, I didn't do anything, except pkg install atop |
| 00:48.17 | Neffi | How? |
| 00:48.24 | Neffi | That's very odd |
| 00:48.30 | znf | installing that broke some library |
| 00:48.46 | znf | libgthread or something like that |
| 00:48.49 | znf | no |
| 00:48.52 | znf | libintl.so |
| 00:49.04 | znf | stuff suddenly required libintl.so.9 |
| 00:49.07 | Primer | woohoo I got sound working in obs on Linux |
| 00:49.10 | znf | but I had only .so.8 |
| 00:49.14 | Primer | there's an ALSA fork |
| 00:49.16 | znf | I did an update & everything |
| 00:49.24 | znf | update fixed half the things |
| 00:49.34 | znf | but I still had to manually symlink .so.9 to .so |
| 00:49.54 | Neffi | Amarande: You don't really need ECC and you can get away with not much RAM at all if you're not using dedup. ZFS doesn't _need_ a large LARC to function, it just is faster with more RAM. A lot of the guys on the FreeNAS forums are flat out wrong, and people trust them because that's the community wisdom |
| 00:50.15 | znf | I'm still not sure about ZFS specifics |
| 00:50.21 | znf | I set up a 60G SSD for cache |
| 00:50.31 | znf | and suddenly I went to 95% ram usage |
| 00:50.44 | Neffi | yeah ZFS will steal all of the system RAM for LARC ;) |
| 00:50.48 | znf | I was like... wait, why do you need to do that? |
| 00:50.55 | Neffi | It should shrink as needed to let the rest of the system function |
| 00:50.56 | znf | I don't really get the point to use RAM for LARC... ?! |
| 00:51.18 | znf | I'm sure there's a good reason |
| 00:51.30 | znf | also, I'm still not sure what the hell do logging drives do |
| 00:51.32 | Neffi | Unused RAM is wasted RAM |
| 00:52.25 | znf | So, really now, what do logging devices do? |
| 00:52.33 | Neffi | That, I do not remember |
| 00:52.36 | Neffi | I skimmed over that part |
| 00:52.38 | znf | heh |
| 00:52.44 | znf | we seem to have 2 SSDs doing that |
| 00:52.49 | znf | I could probably hot-remove them |
| 00:52.50 | Neffi | Wasn't relevant to a home NAS |
| 00:52.54 | Neffi | :/ |
| 00:53.10 | znf | But I'm not sure what's the point of them |
| 00:53.21 | Neffi | I know there's a point, I just dont know what |
| 00:53.23 | znf | We do have huge UPSs and a huge generator |
| 00:53.33 | znf | we can go on about ~20 hours on generator fuel |
| 00:53.40 | Neffi | dayum |
| 00:53.56 | Gnarfoz | just 20? :P |
| 00:54.00 | znf | it's the size of a damn shipping container |
| 00:54.05 | znf | Gnarfoz, that's what my boss said |
| 00:54.12 | znf | with a full fuel-up we can go about 20 hours |
| 00:54.20 | znf | but we can probably refuel during that time :P |
| 00:54.26 | Gnarfoz | ye |
| 00:54.35 | znf | We have a contract with a company that we don't even "see" |
| 00:54.55 | znf | The generator apparently messages them when it's low on fuel and they just come and do the fill-up, boss said he never talked with the guys :D |
| 00:55.16 | Gnarfoz | why would it be low on fuel |
| 00:55.36 | Gnarfoz | you're in Romania, not the US |
| 00:55.37 | znf | well, last week a breaker blew up, took about 2 hours until someone realized that it's a breaker and not a complete power failure |
| 00:55.41 | Gnarfoz | you should have stable power :D |
| 00:55.46 | znf | lol, no |
| 00:56.01 | znf | the actual power grid is in a horrible state |
| 00:56.08 | znf | blackouts are common during summer |
| 00:56.14 | znf | in Bucharest, anyway |
| 00:56.21 | Gnarfoz | you outsourced the grid to another state? good going :D |
| 00:56.26 | Gnarfoz | (yeah yeah) |
| 00:56.38 | Gnarfoz | time for some more Mark Watney |
| 00:56.38 | znf | nah, just that the infrastructure sucks |
| 00:56.44 | znf | we actually produce shitloads of power |
| 00:56.59 | znf | in my area (south-east), we have the only nuclear power plant |
| 00:57.10 | znf | plus, we also have shitloads of wind turbines |
| 00:57.20 | znf | but... we actually produce that much power in this area, that the rest of the country's power grid can't handle it |
| 00:57.23 | znf | I shit you not |
| 00:57.45 | Gnarfoz | not really surprising |
| 00:58.01 | Gnarfoz | power transport is as much a problem as power generation, if not more so |
| 00:58.01 | znf | Our nuclear plant was built with 5 units |
| 00:58.05 | Gnarfoz | you're using 2 |
| 00:58.07 | znf | Only units 1 and 2 are up and running |
| 00:58.08 | znf | yeah |
| 00:58.20 | Gnarfoz | and it still makes up for almost 20% of the country's power generation |
| 00:58.31 | Gnarfoz | nuclear \o/ |
| 00:58.52 | znf | yup |
| 00:59.12 | znf | When I was taking trips to Bucharest and back, I always passed near that town where the plant is |
| 00:59.18 | znf | daaamn, that city was so freakin' light up |
| 00:59.53 | znf | I still find it weird that we're 33% coal... I find it incredibly stupid |
| 01:00.20 | Gnarfoz | and contrary to what stereotypists (:D) might think, it's not 2 out of 5 still running, it's 2 out of 5 finished, it's not even old or anything |
| 01:00.29 | znf | Yup... |
| 01:00.33 | znf | They never finished them |
| 01:00.42 | znf | There are urban myths that reactor 5 is not an actual reactor :P |
| 01:01.08 | Gnarfoz | well, it isn't, since it's not operational |
| 01:01.13 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 01:01.37 | znf | I mean, there are urban legends that reactor 5 was some sort of research facility during comunism :) |
| 01:03.17 | znf | Wind power in Romania reached in 2014 an installed capacity of 2,954 MW |
| 01:03.17 | znf | jesus |
| 01:03.33 | znf | in 2009 investors already had connection requests of 12,000 MW and the national electricity transport company Transelectrica offered permits for 2,200 MW. |
| 01:03.38 | znf | that's just sad :P |
| 01:04.00 | znf | that segment actually slowed down a lot :( |
| 01:04.21 | znf | they use to deliver windmill parts every week from bulgaria to tulcea |
| 01:04.24 | znf | used* |
| 01:04.51 | znf | but after they had that issue with delivery capacity, they slowed down, I barely see one transport of new parts once a month, maybe less often |
| 01:08.15 | Semlar | Guill: is there some trick to taking a snapshot, it's not giving me an ID |
| 01:08.47 | Semlar | and i can't play with the OffScreenFrame from SocialUI because it's forbidden |
| 01:10.27 | Guill | Semlar: Make sure height and width of the OffScreenFrame are powers of 2 |
| 01:10.34 | Guill | And >= 8 |
| 01:11.03 | Semlar | is anything parented to the frame completely invisible? |
| 01:12.36 | Guill | Yeah, it should be |
| 01:12.49 | Guill | Though technically you can still click on it. That's something we just didn't have time to change |
| 01:13.18 | Semlar | amg i got it to work |
| 01:13.23 | znf | wait |
| 01:13.29 | znf | the blizzard guy actually replies :o |
| 01:13.39 | znf | and no, I don't want anything, just thanks for being here |
| 01:13.39 | Guill | *gasp* |
| 01:13.40 | Neffi | and, bombarded with questions |
| 01:13.46 | Semlar | is there some way to prevent it from requiring the dimensions to be a power of 2 |
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| 01:13.58 | znf | Neffi, nah, I don't even have an active sub at the moment :P |
| 01:14.04 | Semlar | it looks like the OffScreenFrame in socialUI is set to the entire screen |
| 01:14.05 | Neffi | same :/ |
| 01:14.55 | Guill | Semlar: A decent number of video cards still require all textures to be powers of 2. If we wanted to spend the time we could probably make that a black-box to the UI, but decided it wasn't worth it for this |
| 01:15.10 | Guill | znf: I respond when I have time. Which unfortunately isn't that frequent :( |
| 01:15.40 | znf | ask for a clone, or something, I hear the dark legacy comic guys have a cloning machine |
| 01:15.44 | znf | think it's made by goblins |
| 01:15.48 | znf | or gnomes |
| 01:16.49 | Semlar | alright i parented worldframe to my frame |
| 01:17.46 | Guill | znf: Already got 2 clones. Turns out as soon as we have more people, there's more work to do! |
| 01:17.58 | Guill | Semlar: Haha, what happened? Does it actually work? |
| 01:18.08 | Semlar | well it made the world frame invisible |
| 01:18.30 | znf | Guill, cool, thanks for being here. Also, don't break whatever crazy ideas Semlar comes up with. One of these days I'm going to motivate him to write those nameplates. |
| 01:18.46 | Semlar | it doesn't appear to have managed to take a screenshot of the game |
| 01:18.49 | Guill | znf: What nameplates? |
| 01:18.55 | znf | I said too much! |
| 01:19.08 | znf | runs away and hides |
| 01:19.33 | Semlar | probably these nameplates https://youtu.be/tIrSlYh-5ao |
| 01:19.34 | Neffi | we've got a code blue |
| 01:19.38 | Neffi | everyone bail |
| 01:19.42 | Guill | Semlar: I'm not surprised. The WorldFrame rendering works differently than any other frames |
| 01:20.10 | Semlar | i was really hoping i could just put this frame over something and capture anything that was under it |
| 01:20.23 | Guill | We may or may not be adding unit tokens for nameplate units in 7.0 </spoiler> |
| 01:20.26 | znf | I swear I had that video bookmarked, yet I can't find it in my bookmarks |
| 01:20.27 | Semlar | o.o |
| 01:20.30 | znf | Woah. |
| 01:20.32 | znf | wait |
| 01:20.35 | znf | I need to change my underwear |
| 01:20.49 | Semlar | glomps Guill |
| 01:20.59 | Neffi | Guill: you have no idea what you just did by telling us that |
| 01:21.11 | Neffi | semlar might not even make it |
| 01:21.14 | znf | Guill, tl;dr, I once forced Semlar to write some nameplates that arranged units in a grid, so basically you had raid frames for enemies |
| 01:21.33 | Neffi | "forced" |
| 01:21.33 | znf | Lots of rope and many whips where used. |
| 01:22.20 | Guill | No guarantees it'll stay, so don't go spreading it around, but... |
| 01:22.28 | znf | He actually never did :P |
| 01:22.32 | znf | blames Semlar |
| 01:22.47 | znf | or, you meant the token t hingie |
| 01:22.52 | Guill | I don't think you could actually do that in 6.x, could you? |
| 01:22.58 | znf | That's in 6.x |
| 01:23.02 | znf | Actually, that's in 5.x |
| 01:23.15 | Semlar | alright well i broke something trying to snapshot the minimap |
| 01:23.26 | Neffi | Guill: You're probably not supposed to be able to, but... *coughs* |
| 01:23.26 | znf | His first demo was in MoP D |
| 01:23.29 | Guill | Ah, are you just passing through clicks/mouseover from a secure frame to the actual nameplate? |
| 01:23.48 | Neffi | no, he's actually re-arranging them I think |
| 01:23.56 | foxlit | can't pass mouseover. |
| 01:24.00 | Semlar | yeah i rearranged the nameplates using secure frames and events |
| 01:24.15 | znf | I've no idea what the hell he does, he's like a nameplates magician |
| 01:24.17 | Semlar | since they have actual frame names now you can iterate over the children of worldframe and identify them in the restricted environment |
| 01:24.19 | foxlit | so it's got to be reanchoring the real frame. |
| 01:24.41 | End | crazy |
| 01:24.43 | Semlar | i mean you can identify that they're nameplates, but that's about it |
| 01:24.46 | Guill | Makes sense |
| 01:24.53 | Semlar | you can't sort them or anything |
| 01:25.06 | Semlar | and you can't put them BACK which was a slight issue |
| 01:25.18 | Neffi | chuckles |
| 01:25.22 | Semlar | once you take them off the unit's head you can't re-anchor it where it was |
| 01:25.31 | End | it kills the unit? |
| 01:25.36 | foxlit | hardest packing issue: figuring out which subset of electronics to bring. |
| 01:25.46 | Semlar | it just makes it so you can't click on the nameplate over their head any more |
| 01:25.48 | Ressy | all of them |
| 01:25.49 | Neffi | all of them. who needs clothes? |
| 01:25.50 | znf | I'm envy of you guys that you can afford to go to blizzcon :( |
| 01:26.01 | Ressy | What neffi said |
| 01:26.10 | znf | s/envy/jelly |
| 01:26.14 | znf | meh, vodka, don't mind me |
| 01:26.22 | znf | (and before you mention it, vodka is cheap) |
| 01:27.16 | znf | wait, when's blizzcon 2016? maybe I can score extra-cheap plane tickets if I book one year in advance! |
| 01:27.41 | foxlit | Neffi: doesn't help, they aren't competing for the same space. |
| 01:27.49 | Neffi | :/ |
| 01:28.20 | znf | Wonder what will my employer think when he sees that I'm commiting work hours at 3am |
| 01:30.11 | foxlit | "are we paying that guy for overtime? no? well then, how do we get him to last to 6am?" |
| 01:30.20 | znf | heh |
| 01:30.27 | znf | nah, they're actually pretty cool with it |
| 01:30.35 | znf | seeing that I'm currently the only damn sysadmin for a huge datacenter |
| 01:30.47 | znf | adn they have 0 documentation from the previous guys |
| 01:31.11 | znf | company is in trouble :-/ |
| 01:31.26 | znf | and my current legal state doesn't allow me to move where the actual datancenter is |
| 01:31.29 | znf | I should ask for more money |
| 01:31.32 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/lkMr8hJ.jpg well it sort of took a snapshot of the minimap |
| 01:31.46 | Semlar | PROGRESS |
| 01:31.51 | Neffi | stop breaking the rules Semlar |
| 01:31.54 | foxlit | ENHANCE. |
| 01:31.57 | Neffi | at least wait until the blizzard spy leaves |
| 01:32.01 | Semlar | oh right |
| 01:32.05 | Semlar | GUILL DON'T LOOK |
| 01:32.08 | znf | hmmm, it's 3am, in about 6 hours, one of our customers will complain that his VPS is down |
| 01:32.33 | kullervo | znf: prioritize. Do you want to fix it, or write an explanation of why it's down |
| 01:32.45 | kullervo | you can do both right now and get some sleep after |
| 01:32.48 | znf | kullervo, not sure what I can do, tbh |
| 01:32.50 | Guill | You can't really do any analysis of the textures, so I don't really see any issue with it :P |
| 01:32.56 | znf | they send a newsletter at ~9:30 am |
| 01:33.00 | znf | their VPS goes down at 10 |
| 01:33.11 | znf | because they're retards and they have configured Wordpress in a shitty way |
| 01:33.18 | Semlar | i can't even get it to copy the minimap without squishing it |
| 01:33.23 | znf | I asked them for root credentials so I can fix the damn shit |
| 01:33.23 | Neffi | Semlar: he's challenging you to do something questionable |
| 01:33.37 | kullervo | znf: so you write that note, and go to sleep |
| 01:33.40 | Semlar | but i think that's just a quirk with moving the minimap, i think i've run into this before |
| 01:33.44 | kullervo | think of it later |
| 01:33.53 | kullervo | since it's not really your fault |
| 01:33.55 | Guill | Semlar: Like I said, we only really tested it with basic frames/textures/font strings. It's likely that it doesn't work with special frames. |
| 01:33.57 | znf | Last time they made a ticket, they didn't even bother writing text in it |
| 01:34.12 | znf | I just replied, "how about we make a scheduled reboot and we save up on e-mail traffic...?" |
| 01:34.44 | znf | thing is, they're retards, they're convinced it's our fault... |
| 01:34.49 | znf | yet we can vnc to the vm |
| 01:36.09 | kullervo | you have the documentation and email exchange to back yourself up |
| 01:36.28 | kullervo | don't be nice just because you can, it's waste of effort |
| 01:38.35 | znf | Yeah, I figured as much |
| 01:38.47 | znf | I just need to go trough my boss with this, he's a down-to-earth guy |
| 01:38.58 | znf | but he was on vacation this week |
| 01:39.08 | znf | And I've only worked there for 2 weeks |
| 01:40.48 | kullervo | of course, take my advice with a grain of salt, since it's BOFH tier and a central part of -my- job is telling people to fuck off with their bs |
| 01:42.02 | znf | I can't wait until tomorow |
| 01:42.06 | znf | when I tell people to fuck off |
| 01:42.11 | znf | for using like ~900k inodes |
| 01:44.25 | Semlar | it doesn't appear to be capable of displaying a minimap without squishing it |
| 01:45.18 | Semlar | which is interesting because it isn't possible to change the shape of the minimap normally, without using mask textures |
| 01:46.02 | Semlar | i wonder if SetTexCoord could fix this |
| 01:48.11 | Semlar | seems to be based on my screen resolution |
| 01:48.37 | Guill | Semlar: Yeah, we had to do some special stuff to get normal frames working without caring about screen resolution |
| 01:49.42 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/mXJBeyl.jpg >_> |
| 01:49.59 | Semlar | now, about this scale |
| 01:50.17 | Semlar | let's see if we can make these icons actually visible |
| 01:55.20 | Semlar | well that's interesting, you can see through the minimap under the transparent quest area |
| 01:56.14 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/0Eg2NVe.jpg |
| 01:56.17 | Neffi | why are you doing this, Semlar? |
| 01:56.25 | znf | wonders what kind of voodoo is Semlar trying to do |
| 01:56.49 | znf | What I learned in my years on WoWUI/Wowace is that Semlar and foxlit are always up to some voodoo |
| 01:57.29 | Semlar | why not neffi |
| 01:57.38 | Neffi | makes sense |
| 01:57.47 | Semlar | i'm infernally curious |
| 01:58.03 | Semlar | and i may have found a way to mask textures with this |
| 01:58.20 | Neffi | nothing like good ol' exploratory surgery |
| 01:58.28 | End | that's internally curious |
| 01:58.40 | Semlar | i'll get the endoscope |
| 01:58.49 | End | um whoa |
| 02:01.45 | Semlar | i was thinking i could get rid of the normal minimap, generate a texture of it and apply mode7 transformations to it to make it 3Dish |
| 02:02.44 | znf | that's why I like sme |
| 02:02.46 | znf | Semlar, |
| 02:02.48 | znf | he's fuckin' curious |
| 02:03.00 | znf | if I were gay, I'd date him |
| 02:03.23 | Semlar | don't i have a say in this |
| 02:03.57 | znf | sure you do, I'm just expressing my oppinions |
| 02:06.30 | End | znf go home you're drunk |
| 02:07.07 | znf | ...I am home |
| 02:07.15 | End | znf go sleep you're drunk |
| 02:07.23 | znf | I can't, I'm doing laundry |
| 02:07.36 | Ressy | then stop sexually harassing people while doing laundry |
| 02:08.06 | znf | wait, I'm not doing that |
| 02:08.08 | znf | I'm just having fun :-( |
| 02:08.14 | znf | I'm sorry if I offended you in any way |
| 02:08.44 | Semlar | I DID IT |
| 02:08.48 | znf | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fo6ybzh7U70EcIOsHo_Nf3U23TzUt2-T-EVkRasXSY8/htmlview?sle=true#gid=0 |
| 02:08.50 | Semlar | I'M A GENIUS |
| 02:09.09 | znf | oh god, I'm looking over the spreadsheet with the aid required for the nightclub tragedy from friday night |
| 02:09.24 | End | Semlar: madman is what some people call it |
| 02:09.27 | Semlar | oh wait it only half works |
| 02:09.31 | Semlar | i guess i'm just average |
| 02:09.36 | End | half mad |
| 02:09.41 | znf | Semlar, in girth or length? |
| 02:09.50 | End | znf go to sleep |
| 02:09.51 | Semlar | :O |
| 02:10.13 | znf | End, I stil got like 4 pair of jeans |
| 02:10.15 | znf | and sheets |
| 02:10.19 | znf | and pillow cases |
| 02:10.21 | znf | and stuff like that |
| 02:10.25 | znf | plus, I still have vodka! |
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| 02:10.48 | znf | >todo add remember to buy more vodka |
| 02:10.49 | Catal1na | Worked, bitch. (Todo #68 added) |
| 02:10.50 | znf | >part |
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| 02:11.44 | Semlar | oh, GENIUS REAFFIRMED |
| 02:11.55 | znf | don't worry, Semlar, I know you are |
| 02:12.54 | znf | in a completely unrelated news |
| 02:12.57 | znf | hhvm + wordpress == love |
| 02:13.07 | znf | I had doubts about hhvm being ready for production use |
| 02:13.16 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/dTtN1fv.jpg |
| 02:13.18 | znf | but ~1000++ users online, I barely go over 1.0 load avg. |
| 02:13.44 | Semlar | i found a way to knock out parts of a texture |
| 02:14.19 | Semlar | which is most likely a bug with the snapshot code |
| 02:15.46 | znf | Semlar, stop giving Guill work to do |
| 02:15.53 | Semlar | i don't want him to fix it! |
| 02:16.05 | Semlar | it means you can mask any texture |
| 02:17.16 | Semlar | in fact i guess it means you can mask font strings and stuff too if you wanted to |
| 02:19.24 | Semlar | if you put a black texture over your image, set its alpha to 0 and set its blend mode to MOD it makes that area transparent when you snapshot it |
| 02:19.58 | foxlit | is there something wrong with SetMask? |
| 02:20.31 | Semlar | only works with predefined masks or something |
| 02:21.02 | Semlar | doesn't let you use an arbitrary texture |
| 02:21.52 | Semlar | or maybe it only works with internal textures, i don't remember |
| 02:22.10 | Semlar | i just know it didn't work when i tried to use my own texture with it |
| 02:24.20 | Semlar | it's possible it has to be a specific format |
| 02:30.37 | Semlar | anyway, my main interest in this function is the ability to turn font strings into textures |
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| 02:40.49 | Guill | Semlar: Yeah, the way the OffScreenFrame handles alpha is super strange |
| 02:41.34 | Semlar | that's okay, i like it this way |
| 02:41.57 | Semlar | at least until it breaks something i'm trying to do later |
| 02:42.43 | Semlar | oo what if i put a scrollframe inside my snapshot |
| 02:44.03 | End | now you're talking |
| 02:46.16 | tz | seems like Semlar should be on the QA team, tbh |
| 02:46.27 | tz | get paid to break shit, and they'll need to fix it |
| 02:46.28 | tz | win-win |
| 02:49.33 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i can use this to turn map overlays into a mask for my minimap textures |
| 02:50.09 | Semlar | for foglight |
| 02:50.15 | Guill | You probably don't want to be snapshotting every frame. It's not cheap. |
| 02:50.37 | Semlar | so don't do it OnUpdate? |
| 02:50.46 | Guill | Well, you're welcome to try! |
| 02:50.54 | Guill | But don't complain if you get terrible fps :P |
| 02:51.06 | End | "your computer must be this beefy" |
| 02:51.14 | Semlar | it was too much of a hassle to snapshot the minimap for me to want to use this OnUpdate anyway |
| 02:51.32 | Guill | Honestly, I wouldn't even do it while you're in-combat |
| 02:51.54 | Amarande | "your graphics card must be at least this tall to ride" |
| 02:52.06 | Amarande | ... heh, except there's that AMD Nano thing now :) |
| 02:52.21 | Semlar | when should i call Flush() |
| 02:52.43 | Neffi | after you call wipe() |
| 02:52.45 | Guill|Gone | Semlar: Whenever you're done with the texture and don't want to keep it around in memory |
| 02:52.58 | End | which is after you use /dump |
| 02:53.01 | Guill|Gone | Technically you don't have to Flush. It'll automatically do so if you take more snapshots |
| 02:53.04 | Guill|Gone | But it's good practice |
| 02:53.07 | Semlar | alright |
| 02:54.22 | Semlar | i'm good with good practices |
| 03:17.41 | Semlar | Guill|Gone: this is the greatest function ever |
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| 04:06.57 | Stanzilla | can't wait for candy crush to show up on the bnet launcher now! |
| 04:08.50 | Stanzilla | @engadget: Activision bought the 'Candy Crush' developer for $5.9 billion https://t.co/XIw7uIt1A0 https://t.co/IoiRIapWV3 |
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| 06:14.07 | Semlar | alright i was wrong about being able to mask anything, you might just be able to punch square holes in things |
| 06:14.44 | Neffi | heh |
| 06:15.32 | Semlar | and rectangular gradients |
| 06:20.40 | Semlar | you can make any shape up to 50% transparent, but i can only figure out how to make rectangles completely transparent |
| 06:21.36 | Semlar | whatever blending you do on the top layer carries its transparency completely through the image when you take a snapshot |
| 06:24.45 | Neffi | :/ |
| 06:24.52 | Neffi | i'm still not sure what you're even doing |
| 06:29.37 | pompy1 | http://gamerant.com/activision-candy-crush-king-sale/ :O |
| 06:30.58 | Semlar | neffi there's a frame that can convert anything you put into it into a texture |
| 06:31.27 | Semlar | so you can like stitch separate textures together into a single texture |
| 06:31.49 | Semlar | it's like the horadric cube |
| 06:32.05 | Semlar | except with regions |
| 06:33.02 | Neffi | can you then extract this and use it elsewhere? |
| 06:33.15 | Semlar | yeah |
| 06:33.22 | Neffi | that actually sounds pretty useful |
| 06:33.55 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure you can snapshot a 3D model and make a still portrait or something |
| 06:34.38 | Neffi | maybe you can snapshot it at the right point of an animation so it appears to be striking a suggestive pose |
| 06:34.40 | Neffi | ;) |
| 06:34.50 | Semlar | anyway, for some inexplicable reason if you put a semi-transparent texture on top of another texture, the part where they blend together is completely transparent in the final texture |
| 06:35.20 | Semlar | so you can see behind the texture, but only for whatever amount the two original textures blended together |
| 06:35.33 | Semlar | so it'll never be more than 50% |
| 06:35.41 | Neffi | sounds like you could make some geometric primitives then use that to build masks |
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| 17:40.09 | karl_w_w | https://imgur.com/a/66DKa fallout 4: looks like it was released at the same time as fallout 3 |
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| 17:53.29 | fewyn | i hope everyone voted today |
| 17:53.31 | fewyn | in the US |
| 17:57.05 | karl_w_w | was it time to vote for trump? :P |
| 17:58.07 | Arrow|work | i did before work |
| 17:58.25 | Stanzilla | http://www.gamespot.com/articles/blizzard-will-no-longer-report-world-of-warcraft-s/1100-6431943/ hahahah |
| 17:58.30 | Unkle | Mailed mine in. |
| 18:02.21 | fewyn | in ohio they have a marijuana measure on the ballot for rec use... hope it passes |
| 18:02.34 | Arrow|work | i voted against it |
| 18:02.56 | Arrow|work | i dont support oligopolies |
| 18:03.11 | Arrow|work | i wont be disappointed if it passes though |
| 18:04.13 | fewyn | yeah i don't like the idea that there can be only... 10? grow sites in ohio |
| 18:04.53 | Arrow|work | 10 grow sites, with a possible 11th in 4 years but only if the 10 cant keep up and the government approves it |
| 18:06.33 | fewyn | but i think we could theoretically import out of state? but i don't remember that part |
| 18:06.39 | fewyn | http://ballotpedia.org/Ohio_Marijuana_Legalization_Initiative,_Issue_3_(2015) |
| 18:07.18 | Arrow|work | and no home growing until the governer appoints the people to manage the licenses, which he wont because he is against it and a bag of dicks, and after that you need to apply for and pay for the license to grow at home, who knows if they will even grant them to people then |
| 18:08.01 | fewyn | when does he come up for re-election anyways |
| 18:08.29 | Ressy | oh my. |
| 18:08.44 | fewyn | i love the ads against it though that were on TV |
| 18:08.51 | Arrow|work | i dont watch tv |
| 18:08.53 | fewyn | saying people were going to give your kids gummies |
| 18:08.59 | fewyn | and candy |
| 18:09.02 | fewyn | i laughed at that one |
| 18:09.05 | Arrow|work | lol |
| 18:09.22 | fewyn | totes going to buy bag of gummies to give to random kids |
| 18:09.27 | fewyn | yeah sure totally |
| 18:09.31 | Arrow|work | yeah like the one going around facebook saying if your kids get these candies on halloween dont let them eat them because they are E |
| 18:09.35 | Ressy | That makes charlottes web do-able there now, right? |
| 18:09.39 | Arrow|work | like anybody is going to give away free drugs |
| 18:09.46 | fewyn | exactly |
| 18:10.13 | Arrow|work | Ressy: ? |
| 18:10.25 | Ressy | That special ballot.. |
| 18:10.52 | Ressy | Charlottes Web is a special breed, which is then made into an oil for children with Dravets |
| 18:11.04 | Ressy | slows or stops their constant seizures which normal medicine can't do |
| 18:11.20 | Ressy | still not legalized.... But it works. |
| 18:11.33 | fewyn | oh |
| 18:11.36 | fewyn | i've heard of that |
| 18:11.48 | Ressy | Parents move families to states which have allowed it. |
| 18:11.55 | Unkle | I have a prescription in CA. I occasionally use a vape pen filled with CBD oil for pain management. |
| 18:11.58 | fewyn | yeah it legalizes medical marijauna too Ressy |
| 18:12.04 | Ressy | yeah.. 3rd point. |
| 18:12.53 | Ressy | The only problem would be in getting one of those facilities to MAKE charlottes web.. |
| 18:12.59 | fewyn | yeah |
| 18:13.04 | Ressy | cuz its medicinal, and doesn't get you high, and wouldn't be a top earner. |
| 18:13.08 | fewyn | yeah |
| 18:13.14 | Arrow|work | yeah im still not sure what the import rules are under issue3 |
| 18:13.16 | fewyn | i still wouldn't be surprised if one of them did it tho |
| 18:13.58 | Unkle | Actually, there's a pretty brisk sale of stuff here that doesn't get you high. Not as big as the other stuff, but plenty of money to be made. |
| 18:14.52 | Ressy | Theres multiple strains, all good for separate things.. |
| 18:15.04 | Ressy | But charlottes web is specifically for dravets |
| 18:19.28 | Unkle | Heh... I just earned 420 rep with Steamwheedle Preservation Society. |
| 18:22.33 | Semlar | neffi this doesn't render fonts correctly at all |
| 18:31.02 | Torhal | I'm pretty sure Neffi was never optimized for font rendering, Semlar. |
| 18:37.15 | Alram | sick burn, Torhal |
| 18:44.02 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/v0IUzF8.jpg :| |
| 18:55.56 | Torhal | renders Alram's fat. |
| 18:56.26 | Alram | hope you have a renderfarm or two for that Torhal |
| 18:57.08 | Torhal | Naw, this is the culinary terminology Alram. Fisker gets hungry, you know. |
| 19:01.36 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
| 19:01.52 | Torhal | hey Fisker |
| 19:01.55 | Torhal | Alram crisps? |
| 19:02.15 | Alram | i know Torhal i was making a rendering joke :( |
| 19:03.09 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
| 19:03.10 | Fisker | no |
| 19:08.42 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/FOW6pHp.jpg fixed it neffi |
| 19:08.51 | Fisker | Torhal |
| 19:08.53 | Fisker | I need you |
| 19:10.02 | Semlar | i wonder if you can adjust the quality of the snapshot |
| 19:12.49 | Fisker | And I need you more than ever Torhal |
| 19:21.28 | Torhal | I have no idea what you're on about, Fisker. |
| 19:24.03 | Arrow|work | boss just sent out announcement theres some spots for a free CCNA training class, hope i get in |
| 19:26.31 | Arrow|work | i better since im one of the few with previous CCNA training, i just never got the cert |
| 19:26.43 | Arrow|work | but im lacking seniority |
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| 19:30.09 | Fisker | ok Torhal |
| 19:30.37 | Fisker | I should sleep soon |
| 19:30.59 | Fisker | very limited time until operation god damnit my knees hurt |
| 19:31.26 | Alram | is that code for blizzcon |
| 19:32.03 | Fisker | I cannot confirm or deny Alram |
| 19:32.06 | Fisker | It's classified |
| 19:32.10 | Alram | so yes |
| 19:32.16 | Fisker | wow |
| 19:32.16 | Fisker | rude |
| 19:36.34 | Semlar | looks like SetTexCoord is making it blurry |
| 19:38.07 | Fisker | man Alram |
| 19:38.14 | Fisker | I just tore down one of these tamperproof rsa keyfobs |
| 19:38.21 | Fisker | and it stopped working as I took it apart |
| 19:38.28 | Alram | surprise |
| 19:38.38 | Fisker | Now I can't replace the battery and get it working again |
| 20:21.46 | zenzelezz | isn't that exactly what they're meant to do? |
| 20:22.04 | Fisker | Yep |
| 20:22.28 | zenzelezz | FIPS-140 level 2 or 3 I think? |
| 20:23.36 | nevcairiel | why would we europeans care about US standards |
| 20:24.11 | zenzelezz | in the situations we've encountered at work, the specs have used FIPS-140 instead of whatever the name was for the European one |
| 20:24.14 | zenzelezz | why, I don't know |
| 20:26.51 | zenzelezz | I've become overly familiar with some numbers this last year. 140, 1545, 7816, 14443 spring to mind |
| 20:29.19 | Semlar | neffi one thing this lets you do is stack textures on top of each other and apply transparency to the whole thing without it showing every layer |
| 20:32.42 | Semlar | also calling it OnUpdate isn't really that bad, although my computer is probably more powerful than what a lot of people are running warcraft on |
| 20:32.48 | Neffi | sounds useful since you cant otherwise do that |
| 20:33.14 | Semlar | yeah normally when you have a stack of textures and try to make them transparent it applies the transparency to each layer separately |
| 20:33.39 | Neffi | yes, and this might look very bad for certain frames |
| 20:34.30 | Semlar | i made a transparent minimap with it, which you can't normally do indoors |
| 20:35.10 | Neffi | right |
| 20:35.26 | Neffi | what, it renders only the content, no black background? |
| 20:35.44 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/dxOmYyt.jpg |
| 20:36.07 | nevcairiel | your transparent minimap looks like puke though |
| 20:36.14 | Neffi | i see |
| 20:36.49 | Semlar | you can set its blend mode to ADD and it would lose the black background but it would be pretty light |
| 20:36.57 | Neffi | :/ |
| 20:37.07 | Semlar | depending on what's behind it |
| 20:38.31 | Semlar | nevcairiel: really? my entirely unstyled minimap isn't sexy? |
| 20:38.51 | nevcairiel | nop! |
| 20:38.54 | Neffi | i'm sorry Semlar |
| 20:38.56 | Semlar | :( |
| 20:38.58 | Neffi | the truth hurts |
| 20:41.01 | Semlar | i just re-anchored the default minimap to my frame |
| 20:42.28 | Arrow|work | damn i still have 8 days of vacation, pto, and flex days left to use by the end of the year |
| 20:42.48 | Torhal | Arrow|work: So why aren't you going to BC? |
| 20:43.26 | Arrow|work | i didnt have a job when tickets went on sale and then i didnt get any vacation days until we got bought out |
| 20:43.34 | Torhal | Ahhh |
| 20:43.59 | Neffi | quietly steals one of Torhal's cats and replaces it with a ferret. |
| 20:44.00 | Arrow|work | i could just take the rest of the week off and go if i could get a ticket, room, and flight but they would cost more than id be willing to pay |
| 20:44.13 | Torhal | That's just a cat snake, Neffi. |
| 20:44.22 | Neffi | so maybe you won't notice |
| 20:44.27 | Neffi | (score, free cat) |
| 20:44.40 | Semlar | but you lost your cat snake |
| 20:44.49 | Neffi | that is true |
| 20:45.07 | Constie | Imagine having a cat. You could just look at a cat whenever you wanted. Amazing. |
| 20:45.08 | Neffi | I'll be back, I need to rethink this plan |
| 20:45.17 | Neffi | Constie: I know, right!? |
| 20:45.37 | nevcairiel | who needs cat pictures if you can own a cat, right |
| 20:47.33 | Arrow|work | a cat? have you seen how many Torhal has? |
| 20:48.16 | nevcairiel | 72 paws worth, if i'm not mistaken |
| 20:51.07 | Semlar | neffi.. if you set the alpha of the minimap and snapshot it it uses the alpha that you set it to even though it completely ignores that value normally |
| 20:51.55 | nevcairiel | Guill did say that alpha is handled rather arcane in that thing |
| 20:52.25 | Semlar | i've noticed |
| 20:53.12 | Semlar | i wonder if there's a limit to the snapshot IDs because every time you take one it goes up and i've been running this OnUpdate |
| 20:53.32 | nevcairiel | and is your fps dropping mad |
| 20:53.46 | Semlar | doesn't seem to be having much of a problem with it |
| 20:53.55 | Semlar | i'm at 105 fps |
| 20:56.48 | Semlar | hard to tell what the actual impact is since the fps is bouncing around but it doesn't appear to be much |
| 21:08.18 | Semlar | if i don't make the frame cover the entire screen it doesn't scale the font strings or anchors correctly |
| 21:08.55 | Semlar | but then it creates a texture that's the size of the entire screen which has to be cut down |
| 21:09.15 | Neffi | :( |
| 21:09.21 | Semlar | well, i guess technically it could be left its normal size since the rest of it is transparent |
| 21:09.41 | Semlar | you'd just have to be careful with how you anchor it |
| 21:10.17 | Semlar | i also have no idea how the game handles displaying giant textures versus smaller ones |
| 21:16.21 | relaxok | so, TaxiFrame appears to be used before TaxiFrame.xml is parsed. |
| 21:16.38 | relaxok | that is i believe literally the only such issue i see |
| 21:17.11 | relaxok | *head explode* |
| 21:17.23 | Semlar | used where |
| 21:18.49 | relaxok | lets see |
| 21:18.51 | relaxok | ah hm |
| 21:19.26 | relaxok | it looks like perhaps im having issues because TaxiButtonTemplate is created with parent="TaxiFrame" but TaxiFrame itself hasnt been parsed yet |
| 21:19.27 | Semlar | it's referenced in DrawOneHopLines in TaxiFrame.lua which is loaded before the xml file, but it's not actually called |
| 21:19.58 | relaxok | but actually i dont know if its that yet |
| 21:20.03 | Neffi | relaxok: That's a template though |
| 21:20.19 | Neffi | If the real buttons aren't created until after TaxiFrame exists, I doubt it matters |
| 21:20.39 | Semlar | yeah i suppose it doesn't need a reference to the parent frame until it's actually invoked |
| 21:21.45 | relaxok | im sure it doesnt matter in the wow client but it matters in my crap =p |
| 21:22.09 | relaxok | i think.. im actually jumping to conclusions |
| 21:30.27 | fewyn | http://www.dailydot.com/technology/gmail-inbox-smart-reply/ |
| 21:31.09 | Neffi | creepy |
| 21:33.29 | Stanzilla | overwatch patch |
| 21:51.47 | fewyn | i don't have overwatch |
| 21:51.49 | fewyn | :( |
| 21:51.51 | fewyn | i want overwatch |
| 21:52.08 | Semlar | you could always play TF2 |
| 21:52.14 | fewyn | i do on occasion |
| 21:52.18 | fewyn | but i want overwatch |
| 21:52.27 | fewyn | i want to play as hanzo again |
| 22:14.33 | fewyn | my blizzcon goodie bag is actually arriving this friday |
| 22:14.36 | fewyn | that's nice |
| 22:15.35 | nevcairiel | oh yeah that thing was supposed to get here before the con |
| 22:16.18 | fewyn | i was actually expecting it to get here /after/ |
| 22:16.23 | fewyn | so it's a pleasant surprise |
| 22:16.30 | fewyn | i'm just glad they let us order them this year |
| 22:16.38 | fewyn | because i am unable to attend |
| 22:16.39 | nevcairiel | havent heard anything of it shipping or something though |
| 22:16.49 | fewyn | i got the tracking number last night |
| 22:16.54 | fewyn | for mine |
| 22:17.08 | fewyn | left bakersfield at 1:34am this morning |
| 22:46.38 | relaxok | Neffi: hah so.. yes.. that is apparently the only place in the whole UI where a parent is referenced before that parent frame is created |
| 22:46.51 | relaxok | Neffi: which unfortunately for me is bad |
| 22:48.13 | relaxok | the fact that it's virtual doesnt help me sadly |
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| 22:52.55 | jleclanche | purl: ping |
| 22:52.57 | purl | ~pong |
| 22:53.03 | jleclanche | purl: hi |
| 22:53.03 | purl | hello, jleclanche |
| 22:56.32 | Alram | licks jleclanche |
| 22:57.59 | relaxok | it's also kinda crazy to me that the xml parameters seem to not be case sensitive |
| 23:09.58 | jleclanche | ~hi |
| 23:09.58 | purl | hello, jleclanche |
| 23:10.14 | jleclanche | hmm. |
| 23:10.45 | jleclanche | ~hi |
| 23:10.45 | purl | hello, jleclanche |
| 23:10.57 | Semlar2 | tries to calm down jleclanche |
| 23:11.09 | jleclanche | get out of here you're not the real Semlar |
| 23:11.21 | Semlar2 | o.o |
| 23:13.03 | Semlar3 | neffi you're missing storage wars |
| 23:17.25 | Arrow|work | jleclanche: got any more of them free blizzcon tickets? |
| 23:17.32 | zenzelezz | https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3qvj6w/ - now that's a scary theory |
| 23:18.09 | jleclanche | Arrow|work: not this time |
| 23:18.21 | Arrow|work | i have the vacation days now.... |
| 23:18.34 | kd3 | I've got a spare one... |
| 23:18.45 | Arrow|work | anybody got a room? |
| 23:18.52 | Arrow|work | ill get on a flight tomorrow |
| 23:19.34 | jleclanche | Arrow|work: you got the ticket? |
| 23:19.48 | Arrow|work | kd3 has a spare one |
| 23:19.54 | kd3 | I got a press pass, so he can have the one I bought |
| 23:19.56 | jleclanche | woops im blind |
| 23:20.03 | Arrow|work | im looking at flights now lol |
| 23:21.00 | Arrow|work | why am i doing this |
| 23:21.27 | zenzelezz | you should ask your friend Morgan |
| 23:21.35 | Arrow|work | and flights are $765 |
| 23:21.37 | Arrow|work | ........ |
| 23:21.40 | kd3 | oof |
| 23:21.51 | Arrow|work | Shirik: give me airmiles i know you haves them |
| 23:22.45 | zenzelezz | I'm guessing you live far enough away that planes are the only way to get there on time? |
| 23:22.52 | Arrow|work | yes |
| 23:22.55 | zenzelezz | :( |
| 23:24.00 | Arrow|work | only $422 if i leave friday... |
| 23:24.58 | zenzelezz | christ |
| 23:25.22 | zenzelezz | if you order a ticket a reasonable time in advance, what's a usual price then? |
| 23:25.35 | zenzelezz | cause that sounds like a serious multiple of what I'd imagine |
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| 23:26.21 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Guill] by ChanServ |
| 23:26.34 | Guill | 3 days! |
| 23:26.51 | zenzelezz | indeed |
| 23:27.33 | Arrow|work | zenzelezz: just under 400 would be normal |
| 23:28.32 | zenzelezz | really? Well, the distances over there would be much longer than here I guess. Might just be the price would've been roughly the same otherwise |
| 23:28.39 | Semlar3 | Guill! if i don't make the offscreenframe the size of the entire screen it scales the font size and anchors down |
| 23:28.51 | zenzelezz | (adjusted for social conditions and all that kind of crap...) |
| 23:29.07 | Semlar3 | eg. http://i.imgur.com/v0IUzF8.jpg |
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| 23:32.32 | Arrow|work | and my aunt is offering up delta airmiles |
| 23:32.37 | Arrow|work | this is happening |
| 23:32.44 | Arrow|work | whos got a bed for me |
| 23:32.57 | kd3 | I'm sure we can sort something out |
| 23:33.19 | kd3 | there's enough people going that there's gotta be a spare bed somewhere |
| 23:33.33 | Arrow|work | lolololol |
| 23:33.40 | Stanzilla | http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/2016-season-update/client-update.html |
| 23:40.31 | Ressy | Arrow|work: Is that the 25k? |
| 23:41.25 | Arrow|work | when i click it it seems to be 30k..... |
| 23:45.14 | Arrow|work | come on whos got a bed |
| 23:45.22 | Arrow|work | im not doing this if i dont have a place to sleep |
| 23:45.54 | zenzelezz | do you honestly need a bed? Find a cheap sleeping bag and hit the floor :-o |
| 23:46.51 | Arrow|work | i cant do floors |
| 23:47.34 | Arrow|work | texting lady friend thats already there lol |
| 23:48.29 | Arrow|work | kd3: pompy is making more offers on your behalf |
| 23:48.55 | zenzelezz | is pompy your lady friend? |
| 23:48.59 | Arrow|work | no |
| 23:49.11 | zenzelezz | I was confused for a second there |
| 23:49.12 | Arrow|work | lady friend is from blizzcon solos fbook group |
| 23:52.16 | Guill | Semlar3: Not really surprised. I think that's what the IsNPOT check is doing in SocialUI.xml |
| 23:53.25 | Semlar3 | textures don't seem to have the same scaling issue |
| 23:53.41 | Guill | Semlar3: Yup. Fonts are weird. |
| 23:54.23 | Semlar3 | if i don't give the frame a static size before i set all of its points to the screen it won't let you take snapshots with it |
| 23:55.24 | Semlar3 | like if you call frame:SetAllPoints(nil) without doing frame:SetSize(1024, 1024) first it simply doesn't work |
| 23:56.02 | Semlar3 | even though the anchors wipe out the size anyway |
| 23:57.27 | Semlar3 | it has a few quirks |
